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Speaker 4: the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday, but more importantly, it

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Speaker 4: is Draft week. We are two days so that's why

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Speaker 4: it's called it Tuesday, two days away from the draft.

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Speaker 4: You like that. Yeah, yeah, so it's Tamara, it's Alex.

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Speaker 4: Welcome Alex. We ain't get you in a while.

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Speaker 2: It's a minute.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Evan, it's Paul is Uh. I don't I

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Speaker 4: guess he's still on the West coast.

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Speaker 5: I don't know where he is Cali, dreaming, but.

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Speaker 4: You gotta ask guys. Matt's back, he's in the booth.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 4: So we're excited. Obviously, everybody knows what week it is.

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Speaker 4: It's Draft week. And uh, I mean if you're not

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Speaker 4: if you're a Patriots fan and you're not excited, then

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Speaker 4: you're not a Patriots fan. You are a fraud.

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Speaker 2: Not excited, you're a fraud.

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Speaker 4: Evan, Well, you're not a Patriots fan.

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Speaker 3: It's it's so nice to hear you do that to

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Speaker 3: somebody else.

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Speaker 4: How are you not excited?

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Speaker 5: I know we've talked about this all year at nauseum,

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Speaker 5: since like the middle of last season, and it's finally

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Speaker 4: Evan's woman in the back.

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Speaker 7: Just talk. You don't have to raise your hand. It's okay.

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Speaker 6: We're on video. I can raise my hand. People can

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Speaker 6: see me. I feel like Evan's not not excited because

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Speaker 6: of the news that came out about the Patriots potentially

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Speaker 6: taking calls and could be trading back.

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Speaker 7: That's that may be part of it. I'm not anti

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Speaker 7: trade back. You know, if they do it correctly and

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Speaker 7: they truly get the bag, then I can justify a

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Speaker 7: trade back. I think the reason why I'm I'm not

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Speaker 7: excited is that professionally, this is the part of the

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Speaker 7: draft where we just get thrown curve balls left and

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Speaker 7: right and we have to just react to them. So

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Speaker 7: that's that's, you know, tough. And also I'm afraid they're gonna.

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Speaker 3: Screw it up.

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Speaker 7: I'm just gonna be honest, I'm afraid they're gonna screwed up.

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Speaker 3: Nervous According to you, you're not excited because you think

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Speaker 3: they're gonna screw it up.

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Speaker 7: Correct?

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Speaker 6: Also, can we talk about what we each define as

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Speaker 6: the bag, Like what do you define as that?

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Speaker 7: And for the record, I don't necessarily think they're gonna

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Speaker 4: There's a difference to me the bag. To me, the

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Speaker 4: bag is if you could come away out of the

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Speaker 4: first three rounds with a quarterback, a wide receiver, and

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Speaker 4: a tackle. Right, that's the bag, isn't it.

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 7: No, no, I think we're talking about the trade down

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Speaker 7: bag is what I think.

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Speaker 3: She's okay, yeah, okay, Plus if you come down with

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Speaker 3: hits on those three I would say that's a great draft.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, but we're talking about trade proposal.

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Speaker 6: Yes, So, like, what is a bag that you would

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Speaker 7: I would say three first round picks and then probably

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Speaker 4: So we lose our first you get you end up

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Speaker 6: Yep, Well, you don't necessarily lose the first, right, I.

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Speaker 3: Just want that clarification the three swap. Yes, So like

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Speaker 3: with Minnesota, is it just so eleven twenty three and

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Speaker 7: Five first in Christian Darrisol.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that's two first round picks, like to you

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Speaker 3: a point? Yeah, Fred plus Christian Darasol. Yeah, that would

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Speaker 7: I think that's the starting point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. But either way, I think that would

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Speaker 3: I agree with Evan, I think that would represent the bag.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you end up with.

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Speaker 7: Who are you picking?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not preeople, just positions, you know.

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Speaker 7: Like I still think that they're picking a quarterback with

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Speaker 7: Whether they pick it at three or they pick it

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Speaker 7: going to be a quarterback. And I wrote about it

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Speaker 7: today in the mail bag that there's a chance that

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Speaker 7: everybody else. And I made the comparison to the Jason

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Speaker 6: I agree with Evan. I think if they got offered

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Speaker 3: So you have two different views. He wants to take

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Speaker 6: Well, then you could get the quarterback a good tackle

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Speaker 3: Well, you can't get a really good tackle if you

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Speaker 3: go later. You know, if you wait, well, no, they're

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Speaker 7: You could get a pretty good tackle a twenty three yeah.

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Speaker 6: Other than that thirty four yeah, probably, And then you

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Speaker 6: wouldn't have to trade back.

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Speaker 3: You might have a guy or two available at twenty

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Speaker 4: Who's the quarterback you end up with?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like it.

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Speaker 6: It depends because I feel like JJ could go five

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Speaker 6: and you could also go eleven.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well that's the thing. He's been up and down

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Speaker 3: Actual everybody thinks there's going to be trades. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: that to me is where this is all about. This

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Speaker 3: Evans just nervous that they're going to screw it up.

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Speaker 3: I'm fair. I don't know about all this trade stuff

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Speaker 3: because if you get past if you get past three

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Speaker 3: the Chargers, the Giants, the Titans, the Falcons, who's nine bears,

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Speaker 3: Bears are going to take a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: The Jets could. I don't think they will, but they could.

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Speaker 4: They could, you know, because you think this is probably

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Like at some point they're going to need

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Speaker 3: do and find somebody for the future. I don't think

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Speaker 3: the small, small window with Rogers.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think Paul's onto something too, because I

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Speaker 6: think right before we went on air, there were tweets

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Speaker 6: reports saying that commanders are not interested in trading their

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Speaker 6: Bears aren't trading their's commanders aren't trading. There's the Patriots

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Speaker 6: are the only person people right now saying that they're

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Speaker 5: So and even then I saw a port I think

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Speaker 5: it was from Karen this morning in mass Live that

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Speaker 5: they've received calls, but they're all laughable, like.

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Speaker 3: Because it's not a valuable pick, like if you're going

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Speaker 3: because if.

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Speaker 2: You have your pick of because may or Daniel right, yeah, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, obviously they're not trading one. But I think it's

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Speaker 3: it's hard to imagine someone giving you whatever and I

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Speaker 3: want for that pick to get the third best quarterbacks hard.

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Speaker 5: It's hard to give up all that on a gamble.

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Speaker 5: It's such a gamble.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's why they've been so outspoken about

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Speaker 3: being open for business. They're trying to get somebody. And

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Speaker 3: my concern, again a little bit different than Evans, is

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Speaker 3: they don't like these guys and they're looking to trade or.

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Speaker 4: They're just being smart and just you know, being open

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Speaker 4: for business because you never know what might come your way.

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Speaker 3: But do you like the guy? Do you love the

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Speaker 3: option at three?

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Speaker 4: Maybe?

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Speaker 3: If I love the option at three, I don't really

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Speaker 4: But you always just want to hear, you know, like I've.

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Speaker 3: Heard plenty to Alex's point, and I don't think they

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Speaker 3: like it. Yea.

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Speaker 4: Also do we really as you get closer, people start

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Speaker 4: to get a little bit more urgent, you know, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of poker faces around.

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Speaker 3: Here's my here's here's my latest final offer.

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Speaker 5: Russini's tweeting now about JJ McCarthy meeting with mister Kraft

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Speaker 5: and his comments on mister Kraft.

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Speaker 6: So it's like, also, do we really believe that Elliott

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Speaker 6: likes all six of them the same? That there really

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Speaker 6: isn't much of course drop off?

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Speaker 3: That's yeah, he did, that's what he did, but not

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Speaker 4: So I'm the same.

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Speaker 6: But he said he would be comfortable with any of them.

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Speaker 6: Would you be comfortable with any of them?

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Speaker 4: Not in the first round? No? No, you know yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think that's a lot of capital to give up

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Speaker 2: If it's not it's like dating. If it's not an F, yes,

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Speaker 2: it's n F.

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Speaker 4: There you go, There you go. Quarterbacks are like dating.

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Speaker 10: I like it.

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Speaker 3: It is, you know's what we've lost. We've needed this

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Speaker 3: for a long time. We needed a female perspective.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 7: I have no notes.

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Speaker 5: I was going for a walk with my girlfriends yesterday

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Speaker 5: and I said that to one of my friends about

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Speaker 5: some dating advice.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, I'm saving that. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to relate this on radio.

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Speaker 7: But the commander the perfect bachelor for quarterbacks at Top Golf,

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Speaker 7: So they they did approach it like dating. They put

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Speaker 7: them all together in one room, and who's going to

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize that. I'm sorry, I didn't realize. They

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Speaker 7: I like one Top Golf experience and I saw I

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Speaker 6: But I also think with asking that question, they didn't

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Speaker 6: And like we wouldn't have guessed that on his draft.

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Speaker 4: So I'm looking at not how they were perceived at

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Speaker 3: Potential Like Caleb Williams is Mahomes, Jayden Daniels is Lamar

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Speaker 7: I think this quarterback class is better than twenty one question.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, but I don't think it's But who did the

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Speaker 7: I would say it probably goes. I think it does

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Speaker 4: As six deep worthy of a first round pick.

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Speaker 7: No, I don't. I don't think that, But but I

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Speaker 4: He's been good with the last two seasons, right.

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Speaker 6: Do you think so? Is brock perty considered a game

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you know. I've compared JJ a lot

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Speaker 7: I would say that JJ is maybe like a souped

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Interesting.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think Penix is going to be a

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about Nicks, but I think I think

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Pennix will be a first rounder because

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Speaker 3: He brought something on the player's Tribune yesterday too, sort

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Speaker 3: McCarthy has had everything in place for him. Pennix had

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: It does make sense. Yeah, he's his journey everything.

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Speaker 7: I think with McCarthy, you just know mechanically, there's not

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Speaker 3: And just to be clear, I am not down on

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Speaker 3: He threw the ball by far the least amount out

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Speaker 4: He could end up being the best of all of them.

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Speaker 3: Who knows, ye, I think physically, you know, and I

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Speaker 3: That's the only similarity. McCarthy is so much more gifted

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Speaker 3: physically than Mac Jones. I don't even think it's worth comparing.

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Speaker 7: They're pretty much polar opposites. Like McCarthy's issues are accuracy

445
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Speaker 7: in processing, and those are max strainths coming out of college.

446
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Speaker 7: He just didn't have the arm talent and he didn't

447
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Speaker 7: have the mobility that McCarthy has so McCarthy for a

448
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Speaker 7: lot of people, it has a high ceiling because he's

449
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Speaker 7: younger and he has a lot of physical I do you.

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Speaker 3: Think there's a ceiling there? Yeah, absolutely, because we haven't

451
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Speaker 3: seen him like he could get He could be the

452
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Speaker 3: best of the bunch. We just never really saw it

453
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Speaker 3: in college. He could turn out to be the best easily.

454
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Speaker 3: That's why I'm I'm not necessarily down. I don't think

455
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Speaker 3: he will be either, but I'm not necessarily down on

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Speaker 3: him based on his skill set. I think he has

457
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Speaker 3: a good skill set. I just like the other guys better.

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Speaker 7: Yeah that's fair.

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Speaker 4: All right. So it's an exciting time tomorrow. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Thursday is going to be huge. But while I'm thinking

461
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Speaker 4: of it, I just do want to give people the

462
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Speaker 4: live show lineup between now and Saturday, or through Saturday tomorrow.

463
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Speaker 4: From twelve to one, we have the Patriots Draft Countdown

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Speaker 4: presented by bud Light. What is that?

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Speaker 8: We know?

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Speaker 3: That's our draft shows. Thanks for paying attention to the

467
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Speaker 3: content for it.

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Speaker 4: Oh so we've rebranded it. Okay, so that's twelfth February.

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Speaker 4: Who's on that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you cast one thousands, but I am. I

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Speaker 3: could be iffy on that, but I'm doing my best. Tomorrow. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'll be here, but I might have to do something. Okay,

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Speaker 3: but Mike Evan, I think he's Cassidy. Chris, Yeah, Chris Cassidy. Okay,

474
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Speaker 3: it's the draft though.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So that's twelve to one tomorrow live, then two

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Speaker 4: to four John Rook with the playbook on Thursday. Obviously

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Speaker 4: we've got the show. Uh here it says eight o'clock,

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Speaker 4: but we're going to start at uh seven thirty. Uh

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Speaker 4: so we'll be live from the draft party upstairs. Actually,

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Speaker 4: it's so big this year. It's in the Patriots gpahroom

481
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Speaker 4: and the club, but we're going to be in the

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Speaker 4: GPA troom.

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Speaker 3: Oh there's like spillover.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's spillover. The party is so big.

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Speaker 3: Surprise that we're not sios.

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Speaker 4: So we'll be a little bit a little bit different

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Speaker 4: than prior years. We're gonna start at seven thirty and

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Speaker 4: we will be live video the whole night on Patriots

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Speaker 4: dot com, in the app, on social media. Right now,

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Speaker 4: the plan is it'll be live video from eight thirty

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Speaker 4: to nine. But don't hold me on that. You know,

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Speaker 4: things are kind of fluid, but we can do thirty

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Speaker 4: minutes of live video on social media, so we think

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Speaker 4: eight thirty to nine is that sweet spot of when

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Speaker 4: the Patriots will be picking. So that's that'll be on

496
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Speaker 4: all the social media channels of the Patriots, but otherwise

497
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Speaker 4: on patriots dot com and the app. We will be

498
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Speaker 4: live from seven to thirty until the end of the

499
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Speaker 4: first round, so that'll be exciting. On Friday two to four,

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Speaker 4: there's a Catch twenty two show, right there is, yes,

501
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Speaker 4: and then from seven to ten we'll be doing a

502
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Speaker 4: live draft show again, but not from the draft party.

503
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Speaker 4: We'll be doing it from the studio. And then on Saturday,

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Speaker 4: from two to four we'll be doing another I know

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Speaker 4: he's got two to four. Where'd you get two to four?

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Speaker 4: Let's go back to one to three, ray fil Okay,

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Speaker 4: I think it's one to.

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Speaker 2: Three, two to four.

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Speaker 5: You run into a mess with all the REVS fans, right,

510
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Speaker 5: messy fans.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta go. Yeah, So I was looking at the

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Speaker 3: wrong schedule when I typed it out. Far one to

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Speaker 3: three on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: I believe it's Catch twenty two correct, two to four.

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Speaker 7: Yes, okay, Depending on when the first round pick gets here,

516
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Speaker 7: and all that.

517
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Speaker 4: But yes, and then you know, beyond that, on all

518
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Speaker 4: the Patriots content channels, I mean, there's going to be

519
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Speaker 4: a ton of content. You know, We've got a lot

520
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Speaker 4: of stuff coming live from Detroit, h all kinds of

521
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Speaker 4: content coming from there. We're going to have when players

522
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Speaker 4: come in, you know, press conferences with them here, We'll

523
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Speaker 4: have Gerrod, We'll have Elliott live when they come up,

524
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Speaker 4: you know, outside of the show. So, I mean, Patriots

525
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Speaker 4: dot Com is the place you want to be, uh,

526
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Speaker 4: In the Patriots social channels from Thursday on, It's it's

527
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Speaker 4: gonna be wild. Patriots All Access Live Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Night seven, seven pm Eastern.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's it's gonna be cool. We haven't had

530
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Speaker 4: a pick. The highest pick we've had since uh Drew

531
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Speaker 4: bledsoe uh you know right.

532
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Speaker 3: Uh no, we've had you know, Willie McGinnis was four,

533
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Speaker 3: Bridget Seymour was six.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that's true. But it's been a while since

535
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Speaker 4: we're in the top ten. It's been a minute, Yeah,

536
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Speaker 4: a minute, so you know, a couple. Yeah, right now

537
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Speaker 4: we're sitting at every That could change, obviously, but it's

538
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Speaker 4: going to be a while.

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Speaker 6: Now, get the bag.

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Speaker 4: Unless we get the bag. Yeah, so very excited.

541
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Speaker 3: We don't say effort.

542
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, what else any other news going on?

543
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Mitchell will end?

544
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Speaker 4: What do we think of Mitchell will call?

545
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Speaker 3: I you know what I immediately thought of last week

546
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Speaker 3: when we were talking about, oh, there's some good you know,

547
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Speaker 3: day three tight ends we could block, and I go, yeah, yeah,

548
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Speaker 3: I don't need to draft that. I can just sign one.

549
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Speaker 3: And then we did, well, let's let's background in him.

550
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Speaker 4: What do we think from the if he was being

551
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Speaker 4: drafted today, what round would he be drafted in?

552
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Speaker 7: Seventh?

553
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Speaker 4: Really? Okay, so don't don't get that excited.

554
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Speaker 3: Tight ends.

555
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Speaker 7: I don't know, camp body, I think, yeah, camp body, Yeah, okay,

556
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna So the OTA program yesterday was the first

557
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Speaker 7: day of Phase two, So now coaches can be on

558
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Speaker 7: the field with the players and they can start doing

559
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Speaker 7: like walk through type stuff and uh what they call

560
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Speaker 7: perfect plays, which is just you know, walking through the

561
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Speaker 7: routes and things like that against air. So they were

562
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Speaker 7: starting to ramp up the spring program a little bit.

563
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Speaker 7: You're gonna have actual OTA's coming up, mini camp things

564
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Speaker 7: like that. They only had three tight ends on the

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Speaker 7: on the entire ninety man roster with Henry Hooper peedaway.

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Speaker 7: I think they just wanted.

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Speaker 4: Some depth there, so camp body, Yes, I.

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Speaker 7: Would not say that this rules out. Sorry, Paul, your

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Speaker 7: your Day three tight end flyer.

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Speaker 4: No, I have not ruled it out. Okay. Well, I

571
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Speaker 4: made a back of the envelope list of players, and

572
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Speaker 4: I noticed that I don't even have a tight end

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Speaker 4: on here.

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Speaker 7: So, yeah, you know who I think you would like?

575
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Speaker 7: Tip Raymond from Illinois.

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Speaker 4: Why would I like him?

577
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Speaker 7: I just you like Johnny Wilson.

578
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Speaker 4: Who's well, but he was like six ' nine, right.

579
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Tip, Tip Raymond. Tip Raymond sixty six and seventy pounds,

580
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Speaker 7: but he ran like a four to six in the

581
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Speaker 7: forty yard dash. Really athletic tight end, but more of

582
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Speaker 7: a blocker in line blocker. Okay, I don't know he's

583
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Speaker 7: up your alley. Okay, you like the you like the

584
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Speaker 7: big athletes.

585
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Speaker 2: Pall drink water?

586
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Speaker 7: Yeah, tall, drink of water exactly.

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Speaker 4: Is anyone interested in my back of the envelope living

588
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Speaker 4: Yeah very much so. Okay, So running back, I got

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Speaker 4: Trey Benson Benson from FSU and Isaac Garando Louisville. Yeah,

590
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Speaker 4: are we familiar with those guys.

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Speaker 3: I am Trey Benson.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I like I like Trey because he had

593
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Speaker 4: no fumbles in his college career, not because all security of.

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Speaker 7: The explosive plays.

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Speaker 4: But but you know four to three nine, he's a

596
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Speaker 4: fast guy, six sixteen, some good size. And then the

597
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Speaker 4: other guy from Louisville, I have fights through contact.

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Speaker 7: That's true, Paul, what's here, Trey Benson?

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Speaker 8: Take?

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Speaker 3: I like Trey Benson. I don't love him, but uh,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm actually coming to the conclusion this is

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Speaker 3: going to be the first time in my twenty plus

603
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Speaker 3: years of doing the draft shows that Fred's gonna come

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Speaker 3: to the table with more information than me.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, why is that?

606
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Speaker 3: Because you've obviously done more research than me.

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Speaker 7: Trey Benson, you got two days. I like explosive back,

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Speaker 7: big play back, you know four three nine and the

609
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Speaker 7: forty yard dash, really good top end speed, long speed, hit,

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Speaker 7: big plays, runs angry like you can just tell that

611
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Speaker 7: that's a guy that's explosive, really fast to the flat.

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Speaker 7: Also in the passing game, went foot races outside. Uh,

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Speaker 7: He's he's an interesting player. I think I have him

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Speaker 7: as RB three. I want to say, uh. And then

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Speaker 7: Grendo was the best tester of the group.

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Speaker 3: At the combine.

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Speaker 7: Really really athletic player. Doesn't always play to that speed.

618
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Speaker 7: I wouldn't say on tape, but your assessment of contact

619
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Speaker 7: balance and ability to run through tackles and things like

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Speaker 7: that's accurate. And he doesn't have He's a one speed runner.

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Speaker 3: You know.

622
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Speaker 7: He doesn't like change up the speeds a lot, but

623
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Speaker 7: he can kind of glide and you know, weave in

624
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Speaker 7: and out of traffic and things like that. Nice day

625
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Speaker 7: three guy. I think Benson's going to be one of

626
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Speaker 7: the first running backs taken.

627
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Speaker 4: So then for wide receiver, I have four guys that

628
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Speaker 4: I kind of know. Again, he's a back of the.

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Speaker 3: Envelopeconky okay, I should know these guys.

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Speaker 7: I love that segment.

631
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Speaker 4: The first guy, Xavier Leget Okay, so yeah, you know

632
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Speaker 4: people like him playoff South Carolina if you believe what

633
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Speaker 4: he says, he's not making it past Carolina at thirty three.

634
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Speaker 6: So also his accent. Have we listened to it? No?

635
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Speaker 3: I have not.

636
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really really.

637
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Speaker 4: Another guy I have from Alabama now, Jermaine Burton. Yeah,

638
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: you can cross that one on. You don't like him.

639
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 7: Oh, great player. Have you looked at his his off

640
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 7: the field transgressions.

641
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's long. Okay, Well, you know a little spice.

642
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 7: To the roster when you're adding Jermaine Burton to the

643
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 7: conversation is probably not the culture.

644
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 4: Okay, Johnny Wilson, I like just because of his size,

645
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Speaker 4: six six out of f s. U love that for you.

646
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 4: But he's a lower round pick.

647
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Speaker 7: I mean you know, no, no, no, no, no, no. When do

648
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 7: you think he could go fourth round? Fourth third, fourth round?

649
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I mean he didn't. I have he didn't

650
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 4: have great production in college, that's true, but I think

651
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: there's something there can't catch.

652
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, so you're gonna have to work on that.

653
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 4: And then local guy Jalen Cocher from Holy Cross, Yeah,

654
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 4: you know, take the local guy late round pick.

655
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Speaker 7: Fun tape like that. That's one of those receiver tapes

656
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Speaker 7: that you're like, all right, will you know that he's

657
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 7: playing against, you know, guys that are going to be

658
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 7: like Carson Helman an account, So we're not going to

659
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 7: get too excited about this, but they the tape itself

660
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 7: is he's got some dominant, dominant catches just going above people,

661
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 7: moss and people.

662
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 4: It's fun. I'd love to take a guy from Holy

663
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 4: Cross'd be good, would be ecstatic. That would then I

664
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 4: lumped guards, tackles in centers kind of together. Again, these

665
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 4: aren't first round picks, any of them. But a Tanner

666
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 4: Bertolini from Wisconsin. He's more of a guard.

667
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe even the center. But you can never go

668
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 7: wrong with Wisconsin offensive lineman.

669
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 4: I liked him because he's literally played four positions on

670
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: the line.

671
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've heard a lot of center with him, but

672
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 7: he's just that's Wisconsin. You know, they're just tough, they pump,

673
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 7: you know, good play strength.

674
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: Oh he's not good enough to have a spot.

675
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 6: That the Midwest offensive lineman they just corn fed.

676
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 7: You could literally tell me that this guy. Think you

677
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 7: could tell me that this guy went to Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska,

678
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 7: Like I would just be like, all right, it's the

679
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 7: same person.

680
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 4: Thank you, Iowa, then Iowa.

681
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 7: Good one.

682
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 4: Then I like this guy because he was in Germany

683
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 4: until he was sixteen.

684
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 7: Brandon Coleman from TCU. Yeah, good, good job, Fred.

685
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

686
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, So Brandon Coleman was much better in twenty twenty two,

687
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 7: had some injuries in twenty three. So he's like the pert.

688
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 7: He's everybody's by low at left tackle, like you're you're

689
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 7: you're gonna get him in the third or fourth round.

690
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 7: Coming into the season, some people thought he was going

691
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 7: to be a top fifty pick, but because he had

692
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 7: sort of a bad twenty twenty three, it regressed a

693
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 7: little bit for him. But his tape against Georgia in

694
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 7: the championship game two years ago, he was one of

695
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 7: the few guys on TCU that actually looked like they

696
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 7: belonged on the same field against Georgia in that game.

697
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 7: So he can play.

698
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 4: And then another local pick, Christian Mahogany, I have lais

699
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: the wood. Mahogany lays the wood, no comment, So I

700
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: so you know, nice one. Yeah, he's a good player.

701
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 4: Two more in this category Travis Glover, I have from uh,

702
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: Georgia State. H what did I have? Four thousand snaps? No,

703
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 4: what is it? Yeah, he's got a lot of wear

704
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: in his time.

705
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's another six year guy. Yeah. The other Coleman

706
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: was too.

707
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 4: I think, but I think he's a good experienced guy

708
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 4: that you could bring in. And then Julian Pearl from Illinois.

709
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: I said he's got six year guy.

710
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 4: I said he's got the perfect body type, but needs coaching.

711
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 7: Good job, Fred, Look at that Julian another late round

712
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 7: guy that you know, six seventh round guy, but one

713
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 7: of the exactly what you said. He's toolsy, like he's

714
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 7: got all of the things that you need, but he

715
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 7: needs to be be coached.

716
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: So can I ask a very honest question, Yeah, how

717
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: do you determine? Like I assume that it's your process, Yeah,

718
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: how did you how do you Winnow? This these lists

719
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: down to four or five guys.

720
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 4: So I I have two sources. I have our lads

721
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: and I have the Beast. The Beast, and so then

722
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 4: I look at some you know, later round guys that

723
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 4: they're looking at. Then I look at, you know, the

724
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 4: tape that I have available, which is all their highlights

725
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 4: and and just.

726
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 3: So you look at like as sixth or seventh round

727
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: projections that you look at and you're like, oh, I

728
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: like this guy. I didn't like that.

729
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 4: I kind of look at the right up and say, like,

730
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 4: who has the least amount of you know, red flags?

731
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: You know? Although I did I missed on Burton, I didn't.

732
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I thought, and the Beast is the number

733
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 7: one draft guides. I'm not trying to I thought he

734
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 7: went a little easy on him, honestly in the right up.

735
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 7: So he's been I think it's six different schools over

736
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 7: the last eight years because he keeps on, you know,

737
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 7: overstating is welcome and all these schools and they get

738
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 7: rid of them. Both the coaching staffs at Georgia and

739
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 7: Alabama had all sorts of trouble trying to keep him

740
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 7: on the tracks. It just he's just one of those guys.

741
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 7: And then at the end of one of the games

742
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 7: last year, he got into a fistfight with a woman

743
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 7: in the stans.

744
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: So I was gonna ask you, if there was specific violence,

745
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 3: should cross him. I would cross him if this.

746
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: Specific climbed to the stands after the game.

747
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 7: It was like in then, like the tunnel area situation.

748
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 7: I think if he had a clean bill health, let's

749
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 7: call it that, he would probably be easily a second

750
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 7: round pick on talent alone. I mean, he's the tape

751
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 7: is really really good.

752
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's a head case. All right. Defensive tackle,

753
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 4: I only had one justin the guy from Alabama, a Booga,

754
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 4: a bougay. I have moved tackle, gets low and has

755
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 4: a good anchor against the run.

756
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 7: So I I when I watched Alabama their defense this year.

757
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 4: He's only two ninety.

758
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 7: He's such a Patriot defensive lineman. The way he takes

759
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 7: on blocks, the way that he navigates boxing the run game,

760
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 7: one of those two gapping Nick Saban Bill Belichick defensive lineman.

761
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 7: Like he's exactly you know. One of his measurable comps

762
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 7: that you have, you know on all these sites is

763
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 7: Ty Warren, like just exactly what you would picture a

764
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 7: Patriot defensive end to look like.

765
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: Uh Then at at defensive end or edge, I got

766
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: Eric Watts from Yukon.

767
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 7: Yeahs got a couple of players in this dra I have.

768
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 4: I said, he hits hard h six four.

769
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, the good edge setter. You know, Yukon's got him.

770
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 7: He's got They got the guard Haynes as well. That's

771
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 7: gonna get drafted pretty high. Not a bad year for Yukon.

772
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: And then I have two maybe undersized linebackers that I

773
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 4: kind of like, I'm I'm thinking speed more now at

774
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 4: linebacker is what we need. But anyway, steel Chambers have

775
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 4: you heard him that name?

776
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 7: No, that one's even too deep for me. Yeah really

777
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,479
Speaker 7: yeah steel Chambers, Nope, name that's a good one.

778
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 4: I think Ohio State. He's out of Ohio State. Uh,

779
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: he's only six foot six feet to twenty six, but quick,

780
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 4: quick as the devil, very quick. See I got them

781
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 4: as special teams maybe, but good tackler and he goes

782
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 4: sideline to side.

783
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

784
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 7: When you here two twenty six in the Patriots, it's.

785
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: A yeah, that's really small.

786
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then Michael Barrett from Michigan, but he's only

787
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 4: five eleven, So.

788
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 7: That both Michigan linebackers can play. Junior Colson's the other

789
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 7: one that's gonna be like a top seventy five pick,

790
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 7: top fifty pick.

791
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: What's the weight though, two thirty three, that's a little bit.

792
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 4: I said. He's quick and he can cover.

793
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

794
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 7: The issue with both Michigan linebackers that I had is

795
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 7: that both of them against Alabama and the playoff could

796
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 7: not get off a block to save their life. And

797
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 7: I'm still a little old school with linebackers, like I

798
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 7: don't need them to be Fuljabwan Bentley like you can

799
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 7: be sort of in between there, but if you can't,

800
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 7: if a guard's pulling up to the second level and

801
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 7: he's coming right at you and you're just a speed

802
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 7: bump in the way, of a sixty yard touchdown, I

803
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 7: can't have it.

804
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I haven't got the cornerback since efeties yet.

805
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 4: But that's my back of the envelope list.

806
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: Can we do a quick note on Burton before we

807
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: move on completely?

808
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 5: Okay, the kill apparently the fans rush the field. He

809
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 5: was trying to get to the locker room. So I

810
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 5: don't know what he did to this woman, if you

811
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 5: plowed through her or just like shoved her out of

812
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 5: the way. But then when he this is my issue,

813
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 5: he addressed the situation, he said that whole situation, it

814
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 5: was a mistake.

815
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: Okay. Then he goes on to say, I can't hold

816
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: that against myself forever. A mistake is a mistake. You

817
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: move past it.

818
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 5: I'm not going to let that situation frame me as

819
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 5: a person. Okay, Like that's half accountability.

820
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Kyle Philipowski there.

821
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

822
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 6: Interesting.

823
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 7: I'm not surprised at all, just to go back to

824
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 7: Xavier Logette, not surprised at all that you're a Xavier

825
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 7: log At guy, because my con for him is debo.

826
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

827
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 7: So they're very very similar players. And I think that

828
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 7: you know, I know how much you love so I

829
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 7: think he's definitely someone at thirty four that has risen

830
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 7: up throughout this process quickly two one pounds runs a

831
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 7: four to three nine at two twenty one. Good luck

832
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 7: tackling that.

833
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 4: I like that.

834
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's a good player. I like him.

835
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not a route runner, not like a technician,

836
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 7: not like Conky.

837
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: But he finds a way to get to space, like

838
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 3: he gets open, but he just kind of rounds off

839
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: his thoughts a little bit. But yeah, he's he's not

840
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: a bad player.

841
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, good hands too.

842
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 4: Okay, anyone else have like any back of the envelope

843
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 4: guys like Pet.

844
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: I'm just going to tell you right now, especially Friday. Yeah,

845
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 3: I think we'll all be all fine on Thursday. On Friday.

846
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: I'm leaning heavily on you. Okay, I'm coming at you.

847
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: I'm at you, bro any Pet with your behind what

848
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: is it?

849
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 4: Back of the envelope, back of the envelope.

850
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 7: List, good good names? Very I mean, I'm interested in

851
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 7: your corners in safeties though you said you haven't.

852
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 4: Done them yet, and I need to know I haven't

853
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 4: done them yet.

854
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: Do them later.

855
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 6: I am intrigued. This is like not coming here, but

856
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 6: I'm intrigued to see where Spencer Rattler goes, just because

857
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 6: he just has had a very unorthodox college career, especially

858
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 6: considering you know, his show and transferring from Oklahoma South Carolina.

859
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 6: I feel like he tested well, had a great combine, offseason,

860
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 6: all the things. So I'm interested to see where he goes. Okay,

861
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 6: I think he could be like a sneaky good pick

862
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 6: for someone.

863
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 3: All right, it's got a lot of ability, yeah he does.

864
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 5: I just want good people with good stories.

865
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 2: My favorite part of the draft.

866
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 3: Is lifestyle patriots.

867
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: He's going to give me good material.

868
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 4: Who's going to be personable, who's got the cool wife

869
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 4: or girls?

870
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 2: Who has who's dating a model?

871
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 3: Yeah?

872
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 6: Whatever, We're going to draft JJ. And then Alex is

873
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 6: going to go and learn about Meditation's meditator.

874
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: You're teaching her meditate. She knows it all, just to

875
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 3: ask her.

876
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 7: Spencer Ratler is an interesting one.

877
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 6: I think he's I think I think he's an interesting pick.

878
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 3: I he's got a lot of ability.

879
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 7: He's one of those guys that one of these the

880
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 7: jets that already have an established veteran starter, and Aaron

881
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 7: Rodgers doesn't need him to play right away. You're you're

882
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 7: taking You're throwing a dart and help bad Dill and

883
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 7: hoping that it that it works out. And he has

884
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 7: two things, you know, really really good in the pocket,

885
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 7: and he has got arm talent and if you have

886
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 7: if you check those two boxes, then you have a chance.

887
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 4: Okay, Well he.

888
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: Was supposed to be fred something really really special and

889
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: he never panned out. Like he wasn't great at Oklahoma,

890
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 3: he wasn't great at South Carolina, but he was like

891
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 3: the number one prospect his his year coming out. He

892
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 3: has a great arm, he can move, as Evan said,

893
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: he can make sort of something out of nothing at times.

894
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 3: The problem is he tries to do way too much,

895
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 3: way too often, and I personally don't think he will work.

896
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 3: But that's not a bad dice roll with like a

897
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 3: day two pick.

898
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's also undersized.

899
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 3: If he was not big, if he was six '.

900
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 7: Four instead of six feet, then this would be a

901
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 7: different conversation. We'd be talking about him as a much

902
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 7: higher pick. I just think with all the things that

903
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 7: Paul said and the fact that he's a little bit smaller,

904
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 7: it's just a.

905
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: Lot and just one final little factoid, you know, getting

906
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: back to the top of the quarterback chart. Caleb Williams

907
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 3: pretty much took his job, and it was I think

908
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 3: Rattler's third year at Oklahoma. He played right away. Ratler

909
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 3: played at Oklahoma pretty quickly, and I think it was

910
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: his third year there. About halfway. It happened in the

911
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: Texas game, the Red River rivalry, which I can never say,

912
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: but Williams came in, they were down big. He led

913
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 3: them to a big comeback, and Caleb Williams kind of

914
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: eventually took the job from him that year. Ironically, they

915
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 3: both transferred after that year because Lincoln Riley went to

916
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 3: USC and Williams followed him, and Rattler transferred to South Carolina.

917
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: But Williams was better at Oklahoma than Rattler.

918
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 4: Was six feet though. I worry about that.

919
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well, because it's really like five ten, five eleven, right.

920
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: Probably six two. He's too small to Yeah, I mean,

921
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 4: it didn't help him. You have to be like a

922
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 4: Drew Brees to overcome that, you know, Like Drew Brees's

923
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 4: anticipation was uncanny, you know, and it's almost like he

924
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 4: didn't have to see the guy open. He would throw

925
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 4: him open, which all quarterback should do. But at his height,

926
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 4: it's harder to do, and yet he was able to

927
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 4: overcome it.

928
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 6: I think, do you think there's any chance the Patriots

929
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 6: double dip in quarterback or you just fine with the

930
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 6: three that?

931
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 4: I don't think up high? But I could see them

932
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 4: taking one first round and then six round, you know absolutely?

933
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: You know Evan, who's my guy?

934
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 6: What's the two lane's quarterbacks?

935
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 4: Name?

936
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: My double tip?

937
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 7: Michael Pratt's Michael Pratt's interesting because I said this to

938
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 7: you at one point, you think that you're getting yourself

939
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 7: into this like game manager Kirk Cousins type of guy,

940
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 7: and then you turn on the film. He's the total

941
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 7: opposite of that. But he's just built like those guys,

942
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 7: and he had his timing and his anticipation and all

943
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 7: that stuff needs a lot of work. But he's athletic.

944
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 7: You can run around a little bit.

945
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: He's a little crazy. Yeah, helmet gets knocked off like

946
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 3: once or twice again.

947
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 4: Don't you think it's kind of I don't know what

948
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 4: the right adjective is, are is funny? Weird? Whatever? But like,

949
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 4: how many D one colleges are there?

950
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: Twelve?

951
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 4: All right? And every year we're talking about two or

952
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 4: three like quarterbacks that really are the top prospect. Isn't

953
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 4: that kind of weird? Do you think? Whoa Like there's

954
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 4: not that many to go around, yet there's so many

955
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 4: every team needs a quarterback.

956
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I get your point, but they don't

957
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: all expore, you know, their eligibility or is not all

958
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 3: up No I know.

959
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 4: But like even right now, if you look at the

960
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: college ranks, like you know, I don't, I don't hear

961
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 4: about like guys in the waiting that are the next

962
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 4: big thing, you know, Arch Panning, Yeah.

963
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 8: That was a joke or.

964
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 4: Or Shakir.

965
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 6: I think I feel like it's going to be the

966
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 6: next like Caleb Williams in the sense of like his camp,

967
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 6: his father doing a lot of talking and telling of

968
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 6: where he's going and not going and all the things.

969
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 6: The ball.

970
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 7: Is like that, how they're handling the transfer portal. It's

971
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 7: just it's a lot.

972
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 6: It's offensive players D M my son, defensive players DM

973
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 6: my other son.

974
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 4: It's like it's just to me, it's like with all

975
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 4: the college quarterbacks that are out there, you're lucky. Every

976
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 4: year if you get one or two that really really

977
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 4: great player, you're right. And it just shows like how

978
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 4: hard that position is. It's A. It's a really tough,

979
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 4: tough position.

980
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 7: Develop mental position. And I think a lot of the

981
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 7: time what happens is that drafting these guys is half

982
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 7: the battle. Then you have to get him in here,

983
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 7: you have to continue developing them, you have to build

984
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 7: you know, an offense around them. And so often we

985
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 7: just think that these guys are going to come in

986
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 7: and be saviors and they're just gonna be Andrew Luck

987
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 7: and take a one win team and turn them into

988
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 7: a playoff team overnight. And that's just totally unrealistic.

989
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 4: I know, there's a lot of examples of guys that

990
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 4: had high expectations coming out of college and never made

991
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 4: in the pros. But I'll ask, you know, these guys

992
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 4: because I don't know the answer, and so you know,

993
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 4: but like, who do you think is a guy that

994
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 4: came out of college and uh, you know got ruined,

995
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 4: like you know, by David Carr by who he was

996
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 4: chosen by r G three. Well that's injury, right more

997
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 4: Yeah hurt, Yeah, he got hurt. So that's that's an exception.

998
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 4: But like I mean I was still a child, yeah, yeah,

999
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: like he should have been better.

1000
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say David Carr is probably the pasted child.

1001
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 7: I still think Justin Field should have been better than

1002
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 7: he is.

1003
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the jury's not out on him.

1004
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just think physically, talent wise it was not.

1005
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 7: That was not the issue with him. I think in Chicago,

1006
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 7: they they're kind of a mess.

1007
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 6: Who was the one that the documentary came out about.

1008
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 3: I can't think of Johnny Manziel. Yeah, yeah, he's a mess. Yeah,

1009
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 3: Like I don't think Cleveland. I don't think that. I

1010
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 3: think he ruined himself with his substance abuse and his

1011
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: lack of professionalism.

1012
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 5: And then he dated that girl that ran a marathon

1013
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 5: in record time because she cheated, and then.

1014
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 6: She likes, wait, you can cheat, and America remember this.

1015
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 5: Johnny Manziel's girlfriend ran a marathon I don't remember, and cheated.

1016
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 5: Must have taken like a subway or something. She finished

1017
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 5: with a time that would have had her like blowing

1018
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 5: away Olympians, and when they she was called out, she

1019
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 5: tried to stand by it.

1020
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: And it was like, no, I did that. That famously

1021
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: happened in the Boston Marathon when Fred and I were

1022
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 3: Rosie Luise.

1023
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 7: She like cut corners or something.

1024
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: I believe she actually, I think she was wife even worse.

1025
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 3: I think she actually took the tea.

1026
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, she hopped on.

1027
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah thought, I mean, I forget that that might be

1028
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: like a turban legend. But she cheated and.

1029
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 4: They figured it out within the next day. Ye the

1030
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 4: next day. I thought it was so but yeah, Rosie Luise, like.

1031
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 3: She came in and like people were talking like she

1032
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 3: no one knew who she was, and she didn't really

1033
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 3: have like the prototypical distance runner. Look, she was a

1034
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 3: little like Doe, you know, not to beat all body

1035
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: shaming because who am I?

1036
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: But you don't run a marathon at that level?

1037
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 8: You don't.

1038
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not. You're not winning marathons with that.

1039
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 4: She's obviously burning cows right.

1040
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 3: Like right away. There was all kinds of red flags.

1041
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 3: And the next day they said that Jackie Garrow, yeah

1042
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 3: won it, right.

1043
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 9: Benzel's wife ran the half marathon in an hour fifty

1044
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 9: eight minutes off of new training.

1045
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 3: Apparently, oh my god, nothing looking.

1046
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 5: Like an Instagram model all the whole time, doesn't even

1047
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 5: break a sweat, I can't.

1048
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,239
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1052
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Speaker 4: let's go draft a quarterback? What do you think? Everybody

1053
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 4: agree with it? And I think all right and speak

1054
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,759
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1062
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 4: have to get drafted to show up. All right, We're

1063
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 4: gonna keep going. We're not gonna take a break because

1064
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,280
Speaker 4: food's not here. We have a lot of emails. Anything

1065
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 4: else anybody wants to talk about that's going on.

1066
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 7: Rahap Sheet just tweeted. He said. While the Commanders and

1067
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 7: Patriots have received calls from teams attempting to move up

1068
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 7: for QB, Washington has shown no indication it would move.

1069
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 7: Per him and Mike Garafualo. New England would move for

1070
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 7: the right offer, but the Pats just haven't gotten such

1071
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 7: an offer yet.

1072
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 4: So, I mean a lot of this is draft stuff.

1073
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 4: It's you know, the fog of war. But the fact

1074
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 4: that the Patriots would be willing to move out, what's

1075
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 4: your first thought.

1076
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 6: You're aware that you have a lot of needs.

1077
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 4: Well that whoever whoever it is, whether it's you know,

1078
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 4: of the two quarterbacks that could be available, you're not

1079
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 4: one hund Righteah, It doesn't that tell you that now

1080
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 4: they could be smoke screen Yep, you know, you never

1081
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 4: That's what I'm hoping. It's the fog of war, But

1082
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 4: that's the first thing that comes to mind when I

1083
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 4: hear that.

1084
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, on the surface, Yeah, like I would say.

1085
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: The commanders know the person we're gonna get him. It's

1086
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 4: not gonna be Caleb Williams because he's not gonna be available.

1087
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 4: But whether it's.

1088
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 7: Drake may Or or they're taking or.

1089
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels, they're sold on that person.

1090
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I think that My guess is that

1091
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 7: they probably see these other guys pretty similarly, like Drake May, J. J. McCarthy,

1092
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 7: Michael Pennix. They probably have in a similar bucket, similar tear.

1093
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 7: So if we can get the bag and then just

1094
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 7: take the other quarterback at eleven, then what differences.

1095
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 4: So you know, that's one strategy to have it out

1096
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 4: there that we would be willing to listen. The other

1097
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 4: strategy is, even if you're willing to listen, you put

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Speaker 4: it out there that no, we're sold on a guy

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00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 4: just so when they come, they come hard at you.

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, what what.

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00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 3: But so?

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Speaker 6: But but I also think, what what if? This is

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00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 6: why I don't like, oh my goodness, So what if

1104
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 6: you what if you're thinking, like, okay, like if we

1105
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 6: get offered the bag and can get multiple first round picks,

1106
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 6: we can build our team and then get.

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Speaker 4: If you believe, like you know, from Drake May to

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00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 4: you know, maybe three or three quarterbacks deep, you can

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00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 4: still get your guy. Then you play it that way.

1110
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 4: But like if you really think that, you know, Drake

1111
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 4: May is head and shoulders above anybody else JJ McCarthy

1112
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,479
Speaker 4: on down, then you know you're kind of taking a risk.

1113
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 4: But you know, you could be thinking either way.

1114
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 7: I don't I think at.

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00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 6: This point it has to be Drake May because we've

1116
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 6: already come up with like a hundred captions like me

1117
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 6: goes with so many things.

1118
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I have I have a fear with them

1119
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 7: and Drake May that they don't have the gumption to

1120
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 7: do it because of the development that he's gonna need.

1121
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 7: And you've heard a lot of people around the lead

1122
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 7: these anonymous sources articles and things like that basically alluding

1123
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 7: to the fact that you might get fired. But if

1124
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 7: by the time Drake May is ready to be the guy, thankes.

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00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 3: So my feeling is, if you are interested to trade

1126
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 3: down because you want to try to build the team

1127
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: and add picks and then get the quarterback later, why

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00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 3: wouldn't you just take the quarterback and then you know

1129
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: he's probably not going to play, like a lot of

1130
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 3: people have said, Drake May, you know, might sit the

1131
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 3: whole year, let alone not start the beginning of it.

1132
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 3: So then next year you're probably going to have another

1133
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 3: pretty good pick. Trade down next year and add picks

1134
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 3: so you can build the team around him. Like, why

1135
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 3: can't you do it that way right as opposed to

1136
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: rolling the dice of getting a tackle and wide receiver

1137
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 3: at eleven and twenty three, just to use the Minnesota example,

1138
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 3: and then get a quarterback next year that may not exist.

1139
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 4: I've gone through like all these people that say you

1140
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 4: have to have the team ready for their quarterback. It

1141
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 4: makes no sense. You can do it the other way.

1142
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 4: You know, get the quarterback and then start building around him.

1143
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 4: You can do it the other way.

1144
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 7: I also just you look at if it is eleven

1145
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 7: and twenty three, you're not even getting the best receivers

1146
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 7: in tackles. Yeah, you're you're not.

1147
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: Just kind of my feeling with Tomarrow when she said,

1148
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 3: you know you can get because you're not gonna use

1149
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 3: probably eleven on a tackle. So now you're getting five six, Yeah, tackle.

1150
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 7: I mean if you're let's just say they're not taking

1151
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 7: a quarterback in the first round and they're really doing

1152
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 7: the we're gonna build up the team and we're gonna Yeah,

1153
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 7: like you could take maybe Olufashanu is there at eleven

1154
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 7: for you to take a tackle, but the three, the

1155
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 7: big three receivers are not gonna be there. You're not

1156
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 7: gonna get Harrison Adunze or Neighbors what the eleventh pick.

1157
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 7: Those guys are going to be gone. Alt is obviously

1158
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 7: going to be gone. So you're really looking at you're

1159
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 7: you're looking at Whanu you know Fagala one of the

1160
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 7: whoever's tight tackle two on your board, and then maybe

1161
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 7: like you know one of the Texas kids, you know,

1162
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 7: added I Mitchell, you know one of those players at

1163
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 7: twenty three, which isn't like a terrible haul, but it's

1164
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 7: you're not even getting the blue chip player.

1165
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's not out of the realm. You know,

1166
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 3: I've said this going back months now, Like I'm not

1167
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 3: as anti trade down as I normally would be because

1168
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 3: I do recognize they have a lot of needs. I

1169
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 3: just at some point you gotta I don't. I don't.

1170
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan of it needs to be

1171
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 3: done in a certain order. Yeah, you know, I don't

1172
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: care what order you fill these needs.

1173
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 4: I think what scares Patriots fans is like if they

1174
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 4: were sold on Drake May, they wouldn't even be considering

1175
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 4: you know.

1176
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 3: That's kind of how I feel. I'm not gonna lie,

1177
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 3: and that's fair.

1178
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 4: But again, it could be just a smoke screen, you know,

1179
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 4: you never, you know, just we're keeping all options available.

1180
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 4: But i'd rather but we really do love Drake May.

1181
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: If you were going to go smoke screen, I'd rather

1182
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,479
Speaker 3: you go that smoke screen, we really love. We're not going.

1183
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 3: We're not moving. Yeah, we're not moving. And then you know,

1184
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 3: maybe someone can say, okay, so we're not getting it

1185
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 3: for just eleven and twenty three. We gotta we gotta

1186
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 3: put something in this. Yeah, you know, we gotta, we

1187
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,439
Speaker 3: gotta give more because they don't they like the guy

1188
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 3: and they're going to stay there, so we got to

1189
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 3: blow them away. If we're going to move up right

1190
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 3: right right, yep, I'd rather it that way. If it's

1191
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 3: if we're going smoke screens.

1192
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, or it's high stakes.

1193
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 6: People could also just be waiting to see what the

1194
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 6: commanders are going to do first before they put all

1195
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 6: their chips on the table in front of everyone. Maybe

1196
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 6: they want to wait and see, like, okay, they're going

1197
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 6: to choose Jayden, and if they don't choose him, then

1198
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 6: they're like, okay, we'll give everything we have to kid

1199
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 6: Jayden at three.

1200
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 4: If you go back to twenty twenty, was that the

1201
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 4: year Mac Jones was twenty twenty one? If you went

1202
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 4: back to the twenty one draft, how would you redo that?

1203
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 4: You know, like, what would you what would you have

1204
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 4: a chance to redo history?

1205
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 3: I mean the whole like all the picks.

1206
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 7: That that top pick, like what the Patriots top pick. Yeah,

1207
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 7: oh no, I wonder I would have done the same

1208
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 7: exact thing.

1209
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 6: Really, you would have still picked Mac.

1210
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.

1211
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 7: It was the biggest need on the team, and he

1212
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 7: was a first round caliber quarterback.

1213
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 4: But you know, now what you didn't know then you

1214
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 4: would still do.

1215
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 7: That, Yeah, because I I don't do I think Mac

1216
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 7: Jones was ever going to be We've been over this, like,

1217
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 7: I don't think that Mac Jones ever gonna be an

1218
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 7: MVP caliber quarterback in the league. Probably not do. I

1219
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 7: think that they fed it up a lot for him. Yeah,

1220
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 7: So if I had to redo it, I would redo

1221
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 7: it and just do it better than what they Yeah, right,

1222
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 7: And I think that if they had done it better

1223
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 7: than what they did. You don't make Matt Patricia the

1224
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator. You don't make DeVante Parker your big you know,

1225
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 7: off season edition at wide receiver. Are we looking at

1226
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 7: a situation where Mac Jones is at least a serviceable

1227
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 7: starting quarterback in the league.

1228
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we're gonna cheat, so we're using all our

1229
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 3: information now, yeah right, yep. So I would have like

1230
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 3: probably gotten aggressive and tried to get Micah Parsons.

1231
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 7: I think that's kind of they. I think that Micah

1232
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 7: Parsons might have been who Bill really wanted, and it

1233
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 7: he didn't fall to him, so he took the quarterback.

1234
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 7: But I still especially just looking in it, unless you

1235
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 7: do what Paul did and you trade up, which is

1236
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 7: a totally different consea.

1237
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 3: I'm cheating, So I'm cheating knowing that this guy is

1238
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 3: a really good.

1239
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 4: So you think the Patriots did Mac dirty for sure?

1240
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I don't do. I think that's the

1241
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 7: only reason that he failed. No, but I think that

1242
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 7: when you drafted him, you knew that you weren't drafting

1243
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 7: Patrick Mahomes like you knew that you were drafting a

1244
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 7: guy with a limited ceiling. And the best that you

1245
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 7: did was, you know, Juju Smith, Schusters and Devonte Parkers

1246
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 7: and those level of players. And I don't know what

1247
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 7: they expected him to do with that. I don't know

1248
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 7: what they It's.

1249
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 3: The age old. A lot of things can be true, the.

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Speaker 6: Same letting Ted Carris and who was the other person.

1251
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Speaker 7: Shack Mason.

1252
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 6: Shack Mason that you had to stay ye, you gotta

1253
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 6: protect him?

1254
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Speaker 11: halftime Show. Matie's down here, joined by Chris Cassidy.

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Speaker 8: What's going on?

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Speaker 11: Guys? We're gonna start with some trivia. As always, send

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Speaker 11: your answers to webrar at Patriots dot com. All right, guys,

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Speaker 11: Question one? How many Patriots Hall of famers played for

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Speaker 11: the team at any point? They're in the nineteen eighties

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Speaker 11: A right. Question two. In nineteen eighty eight, Victor Keem

1294
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Speaker 11: Kime I forget Chime bought the Patriots from Billy Sullivan

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Speaker 11: At that time? Who bought Sullivan Stadium out of bankruptcy.

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Speaker 8: All right.

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Speaker 11: In question three, who set the Patriots rookie record for

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01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 11: saxon a season with ten in nineteen eighty five? Any

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Speaker 11: of those?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 11: Okay, all right, guys, this is a this is gonna

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Speaker 11: be a fun one here. We're talking about former NFL

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Speaker 11: players turned actors. All Right, So, Chris, you want to

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Speaker 11: kick off with a couple.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, sure, I'll rattle them off. I'm gonna start with

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Speaker 8: the goat rest in peace recently past. Carl Weathers. All right,

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Speaker 8: I mean, talk about a guy who just an absolute

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Speaker 8: I mean that's one of his legendary Well yeah, although

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Speaker 8: you can't forget about the Rocky series, just amazing all

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Speaker 8: the way through episode four. Unfortunately they had to remove

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01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 8: him an episode four against Ivan Drago, But I continue, yeah,

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Speaker 8: star Wars. I mean he's just using everything. Yeah, Carl

1314
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 8: Weathers is absolutely go Terry Terry Crews, white Chicks, longest

1315
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 8: longest yard, Which longestyard.

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01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 10: Of a couple. Yeah, we have a couple.

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Speaker 11: We got we got stone stone colds in that, right,

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01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 11: Bill Goldberg and Bill Romanowski.

1319
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 10: That the bas isn't that too?

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Speaker 8: He isn't that he's the he's one of the guards.

1321
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 11: The guards, all right, else, let me think here, I'll

1322
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 11: give you one.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, go ahead, off the rock. Oh my gosh, for

1324
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 8: although he was shortly Yeah, but to be fair, he

1325
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 8: even jokes about it in Ballers.

1326
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, he pretty much just plays himself.

1327
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 8: Yeah he does.

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01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 11: And then he's a super agent. And you know, that

1329
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 11: is a show that's so bad, but I love it.

1330
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 11: It's so bad, but I love every.

1331
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 8: Second of it. It's so good. The first couple of

1332
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 8: seasons are really good. Season one is great, the first couple,

1333
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Speaker 8: but then it's like it just gets absurd. It gets absurd.

1334
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 8: It's silly. But you mentioned the longest yard, but you

1335
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 8: didn't even say Burt Reynolds. Dude, I know, didn't even

1336
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 8: say Burt Reynolds. I'm sorry, Like, what are we doing?

1337
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 8: What are we doing?

1338
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 4: Well?

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01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 11: We also could talk about John David Washington. He was

1340
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 11: on the Practice Squad. Fras Denzel's son played Ricky Jarrett

1341
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 11: and Follers.

1342
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Speaker 10: Yeah.

1343
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 8: I didn't even realize, Oh my gosh.

1344
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 11: He's in the other sci fi movie that just came out.

1345
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 11: I don't know why I'm blinking on it. The creator

1346
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 11: that's pretty good, all right. Who else we got ed

1347
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 11: Mariano or Marin Arrow. He was on the Vikings and

1348
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,959
Speaker 11: he was the head coach in Blue Mountain State.

1349
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 10: I don't know if he was anything else. That's that's

1350
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 10: that's a question for Google.

1351
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 8: So we're talking. We're not talking just movies, right, go

1352
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 8: for it. So we can we can talk about Brett

1353
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 8: Farv and all of his commercials that he did growing.

1354
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 10: Up, commercials to get some ring.

1355
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 8: I wasn't going that way, but yeah, I'm talking about

1356
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 8: his commercials. I mean, just if you think about.

1357
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 11: It, guys, if you google this list, it's insane. I mean,

1358
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 11: any given Sunday which you mentioned on a previous halftime

1359
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Speaker 11: show that had Lawrence.

1360
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Speaker 10: Taylor, I mean your name.

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of people on that. I can't even

1362
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 8: go through it. I mean, I've never seen the movie.

1363
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 8: Actually I didn't finish the movie.

1364
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 10: I should say, you didn't do your homework.

1365
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 8: I mean Hein's Ward is in Dark Knight Rises.

1366
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, the same with Big.

1367
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 11: Then they got they got the whole Steeler. Somebody said,

1368
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 11: what's the most unrealistic part of that movie? And it

1369
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 11: was Hines Ward returning the and and.

1370
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Speaker 8: He's the one that returned to the house though, absolute

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Speaker 8: house calling that movie.

1372
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Speaker 11: Can we also talk about we've forgot about our guy

1373
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 11: who's Tom Brady?

1374
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 8: Oh my god, for Brady you yeah, dude, he's he

1375
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 8: go can do it all? Oh yeah, go can do

1376
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 8: it all? Yeah? Oh, oh my gosh, what are we doing?

1377
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 8: Mike ditka Oh yeah, kicking and another great one?

1378
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 3: You kidding me?

1379
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 8: That's on us, No, that is on us.

1380
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Speaker 10: That's on us.

1381
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 8: Absolutely. He I don't think I could ever picture that

1382
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 8: man in a comedy role. And he nailed it.

1383
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 11: You know, we're just straight a little way from uh

1384
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 11: from football. But Lebron James for basketball, dude, he's decent

1385
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 11: some stuff. He's okay, all right, So here here's his

1386
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 11: is a goon squad?

1387
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 8: Right, No, yeah, the squad? What's the space jam spaceham

1388
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 8: my gosh, Chris, oh my gosh.

1389
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Speaker 11: All right, Well, so you know, here's here's a good

1390
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 11: question before we close this out. What are some current

1391
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 11: NFL players because you know, everybody gets in the media,

1392
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 11: but who are some like current NFL players that are

1393
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 11: gonna be like the next big thing, next big thing,

1394
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 11: like like acting, Oh boy, off the top of the

1395
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 11: you gotta go with Travis Kelsey.

1396
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, possibly you think he'll just jump right

1397
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 8: into acting.

1398
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 10: I don't know what he's gonna do.

1399
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 8: I don't think all these guys can just become sportscasters

1400
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 8: because that seems a lot.

1401
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 10: Of these were running out of seats.

1402
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 8: So to pick you back off of that, I yeah,

1403
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 8: I don't know, I really, I don't know.

1404
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 11: I'm trying to think Gronk might have a future. He's

1405
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 11: been in some stuff.

1406
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 4: He's on the wrestling and he's got Fox though he's.

1407
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 8: He's doing this thing at Fox. Yeah right, I don't know.

1408
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 8: I don't know why I have charge this. Jetta's maybe

1409
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 8: if he keeps going on.

1410
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 11: His pace A dance movie I'm thinking about. More of

1411
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 11: the guys are on the way out on the way

1412
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 11: I'm gonna dance Step up twelve Kelsey.

1413
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 8: I could see in some role.

1414
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I mean he was just at WrestleMania. Yeah,

1415
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 11: like he he he can do it.

1416
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 10: I think he.

1417
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 11: But he might be one of those guys that goes

1418
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 11: to Sports Sports Network.

1419
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 8: So was Hulk Hogan in the NFL?

1420
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 10: That's a great question.

1421
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 11: Morell you know that I think he was hold on

1422
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 11: Hulk Hogan NFL.

1423
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 10: We're checking. Please bear with us one second.

1424
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 11: You gotta keep talking. Wiki says no, he says. The

1425
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 11: wiki says no, because a.

1426
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 8: Lot of a lot of those guys become wrestlers too.

1427
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 8: They they do. That's that's also like where my mind went.

1428
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 11: All right, no, what's his name in rains was on

1429
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 11: the vikings right hopefull.

1430
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 8: Wait hold on Morell just came in and said, whole

1431
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 8: Covid started wrestling when he was sixteen. That's ridiculous.

1432
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 10: Listen to your brother. He's way. All their times are

1433
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 10: different back then.

1434
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's true.

1435
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 11: But all right, guys, that was a quick fod one.

1436
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 11: If you got the trivia right, send your answers to

1437
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 11: the webrary.

1438
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 8: At patriots dot com.

1439
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 11: Chris is always thanks for joining, and guys, if you

1440
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 11: want us to talk about something, to send.

1441
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 10: Email in too. We got time, got time.

1442
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 8: But all right, guys, just get back pages up. Phil Thick.

1443
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 12: When someone accidentally threw away the school play.

1444
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 2: Costumes, oh no.

1445
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 12: Replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1446
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 12: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

1447
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 12: now it's next for residential delivery only.

1448
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 3: And now great moments in.

1449
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 8: History.

1450
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 3: Long term deal. Do you think he plays out the franchise?

1451
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: Oh?

1452
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 10: No, I think he gets a long term deo.

1453
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be great.

1454
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 8: Open up some space.

1455
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 3: It depends on your definition. Are great, it's great to

1456
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 3: tie up two guards. You know what I'm searching for

1457
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 3: getting to him. I'm searching for the move that that

1458
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 3: deuce doesn't like. That's my goal. I want to I

1459
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 3: want to move that that deuce is not on board

1460
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 3: with him.

1461
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 2: I think he's completely bought in.

1462
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 6: He's bought into Belichium.

1463
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 4: You Havel's bulls eye.

1464
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 3: Yep, he's in the cross.

1465
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 2: He's going to like every time.

1466
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 3: I don't get to yell at him every day like

1467
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 3: we usually do. We just we just do radio shows.

1468
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 4: Now, I will have to admit, after seeing Brady and

1469
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 4: a lot of those photoshops buck things, I'm kind of.

1470
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 8: Like, good luck.

1471
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 4: Well we knew that, right that good luck.

1472
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 8: I'm just emitting it.

1473
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 3: You pushed him out.

1474
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from all right.

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Speaker 4: Easy to drink, easy to enjoy. Bud Light, the official

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Speaker 4: beer sponsor of the New England Patriots. I could use

1477
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Speaker 4: one right now.

1478
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 7: Okay, I didn't know that was an option now it

1479
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,480
Speaker 7: is maybe uh, after the draft, we could have facilitated.

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01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, suns out funds out. Get ready for warmer weather

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Speaker 4: on trend indoor outdoor rugs, umbrellas in decor. Stop in

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Speaker 4: and shop now to embrace springtime at Bob's Discount Furniture,

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Speaker 4: the official furniture store of the New England Patriots. You

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Speaker 4: ready for the outdoor season? Is everybody ready for it?

1488
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1489
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 2: Cleaned patio yeah, yeah.

1490
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 3: Powerwashed last weekend. I'm ready.

1491
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 7: The pool at our building open is opening I think

1492
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 7: two weeks maybe, yeah, sometime in May.

1493
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to open the pool soon.

1494
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't have a pool anymore.

1495
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 3: I'm having problems with my pump on the cover.

1496
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1497
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 3: So like an idiot, I didn't take the old one

1498
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 3: in peace cracked off, so I had to get a

1499
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 3: new one, and they I sold me a bill of goods.

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01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 3: I'll just want it automatically turns on and off depending

1501
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 3: on the water level, which is nice because a lot

1502
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 3: of times you forget that it's on and you end

1503
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 3: up blowing out the motor by accident. Except it doesn't work,

1504
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 3: so I just don't think it's strong enough. So my

1505
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 3: cover has a lot of water. How do you deal

1506
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 3: with that? I mean, I'll have to get another another pump.

1507
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:25,799
Speaker 4: There's really no way to Before I had like the

1508
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 4: do you have a cool? It was hard to take

1509
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 4: the cover off without getting all that creat and my

1510
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 4: guy for made one. You know, it's the worst.

1511
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, it sounds sounds terrible.

1512
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 3: It's it's not well.

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01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 4: At my house, I had somebody to help me open

1514
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 4: and close it, and then I took everything, you know,

1515
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 4: I took it from there.

1516
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 3: What do you mean someone I had a pool service?

1517
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, my my parents have a pool. And it

1518
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 7: sounds exhausting, Like my dad tells me.

1519
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 3: It's really not. It's unless you like, if you have

1520
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 3: there's definite horror stories, like if you don't get it right,

1521
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 3: it's hard to fix it.

1522
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,480
Speaker 7: Yeah. He's like a techie guy though, so now everything's automated,

1523
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,879
Speaker 7: like it's all it's all robots.

1524
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 4: Yeah no, I mean you have your pool vacuum that

1525
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 4: goes and does its thing, but once you open it.

1526
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,879
Speaker 4: It should be, you know, you do things on a schedule,

1527
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 4: but it's not. It's not terribly.

1528
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 2: Hard, you know, skim every day.

1529
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 4: But I would just have I'd have a service that

1530
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 4: opens and closes for you.

1531
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, that makes sense.

1532
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 3: And I don't really have any trees, so I don't

1533
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 3: even have to do all that I do.

1534
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 5: Where my mom is, it's up in the mountains and

1535
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 5: Ludlow Mountain of chog, so like trees are terrible. In

1536
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 5: my mom's neighborhood, I was skimming the pool every single morning.

1537
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 7: I always forget you're from Ludlow, blood Low.

1538
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 4: All right, let's get to the calls and emails. Web

1539
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 4: radio at patries dot com is the email address one

1540
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 4: eight hundred four nine four Pats. It's been so long

1541
01:11:54,880 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 4: since we take Oh trivia and gas were it's a trivia.

1542
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 4: Oh okay, let me get this out. Oh here we

1543
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 4: go trivia. Ready. You can laugh.

1544
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 3: You are a laughing You are special.

1545
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 2: I just look at you and smile all show every day.

1546
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 4: Okay, that's funny. How that's nice funny to you. How

1547
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 4: many Patriots Hall of Famers played for the team at

1548
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 4: any point during the nineteen eighties. That's kind of a

1549
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 4: hard question.

1550
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 7: That's a Paul question.

1551
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 4: How many Patriots Hall of famers played for the.

1552
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 3: Patriots Hall of Fame? Yeah, team Hall of Famer.

1553
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, team not not Hall of Fame, team Hall of Famers.

1554
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 4: Five nine?

1555
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, so I had off the top of

1556
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 3: my head, Hannah Tippett, Grogan, Nelson, Armstrong. Yep, so there's more.

1557
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 4: Doesn't list them?

1558
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 3: There's four more?

1559
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 4: Good is that in nineteen eighty eight Victor Kayan bought

1560
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 4: the Patriots from Billy Sullivan at that time. Who bought

1561
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 4: Ellivant Stadium out of bankruptcy?

1562
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 7: Robert Kraft the boss?

1563
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 4: Well, Steve carp Yeah, he's got Well whoever did this

1564
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 4: answer k Corp? Which was Craft and Steve Carp Right, Yeah,

1565
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:20,839
Speaker 4: so we're right, okay. And finally, who set the Patriots

1566
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 4: rookie record for sacks in a season with ten in

1567
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty five.

1568
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 3: It's a great question. Oh, garn Verus is correct?

1569
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 4: Nice, all right, good stuff.

1570
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 3: That's a good question.

1571
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody actually put some thought into those questions, although

1572
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 4: it would have been good, you know, in the first

1573
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 4: one to know who they were.

1574
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's have.

1575
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 4: I had five of them, right, Hall of Fame Patriots

1576
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 4: Hall of Famers that played in the eighties was Stanley

1577
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 4: Morgan played in the eighties.

1578
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 3: Stanley Morgan is six, Ray Claybowen is seven. Okay, gotta

1579
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 3: get two more.

1580
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 4: Oh, Ben Coates played in the eighties. Didn't he know?

1581
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 4: Oh he didn't.

1582
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 10: I like that.

1583
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 3: Okay, we got seven.

1584
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 7: Stanley Morgan's on my list of You know, there's guys

1585
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 7: that I wish that I was alive for when they

1586
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 7: played the Patriots. Obviously John Hannah's like the biggest one,

1587
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 7: but Stanley Morgan's on the shortlist too.

1588
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1589
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 4: I mean it's interesting to go back and look at

1590
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 4: guys who played in the seventies and eighties. They they

1591
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 4: could play now.

1592
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 7: I think he's one of them. Yeah, I do, especially

1593
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 7: the way the game is nowadays with his speed.

1594
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 4: Yep, all right. Barton Poland writes in he said he

1595
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 4: was listening to the Athletics podcast with Diana Rossini and

1596
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 4: she said a couple of things that he thought was notable.

1597
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 4: One Daniels would like to play for the Raiders but

1598
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 4: is most likely going number two, and the Washington visit

1599
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 4: didn't change anything. And he's more highly regarded than May,

1600
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 4: especially in the coaching community, which isn't surprising because he's

1601
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 4: supposed to be more already.

1602
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard scouts like may Moore and coaches like

1603
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 3: Daniels Moore. I don't know if that's actly all right.

1604
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 4: And two, the Patriots are taking calls for the number

1605
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 4: three pick, but it would take a king's ransom for

1606
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 4: them to trade back and pivot from their plan of

1607
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 4: taking a quarterback, especially that Jonathan Kraft is heavily involved

1608
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 4: and ownership may push for a quarterback.

1609
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 3: Now.

1610
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 4: That's that's according to Diana Rossini.

1611
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:31,440
Speaker 7: Yess, she's the first one that put out the ownership

1612
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 7: stuff yesterday tweet as well, so she must have just expanded.

1613
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 4: On that interest you.

1614
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 6: Oh there we go, I said it was on. I

1615
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 6: do think it's interesting how she mentioned that Jonathan would

1616
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 6: be involved in decision making.

1617
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 4: Well, I think he's been in the room since they've

1618
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 4: owned the team. You know, the question is does it

1619
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 4: as an input increased now.

1620
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 5: Is involved too, or he's like he's involved in the process,

1621
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 5: or he's in the decision making, because that's kind of

1622
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,520
Speaker 5: I feel like that's a lot different.

1623
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 4: Right right, Like, for example, like I doubt that he's

1624
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,440
Speaker 4: like scouring through scouting.

1625
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 7: Him, you think he's not grinding the tape.

1626
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 2: Right, it's also big business decision.

1627
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 4: But when it comes to like, you know, getting value

1628
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 4: in a trade down or something like that, maybe he's

1629
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 4: you know, got input on that. I don't know.

1630
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 7: I just we're in a no win scenario talking about this. Yeah,

1631
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 7: But in all honesty, if I would love to find

1632
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 7: an owner, ownership, group owner, principal owner that would not

1633
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 7: be involved with the third overall pick in a draft, right,

1634
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 7: go find me a team in any of the major

1635
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 7: sports whose owner isn't in the room for that decision, not.

1636
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 4: Only in the room, but leading up to it, understanding

1637
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 4: the thinking of their brain trust. Ye, Like, Okay, what

1638
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 4: are our options if this happens? What our options if

1639
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 4: that happens, if we trade down? Why you know, understanding

1640
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 4: what that is? You know, wouldn't you want to know that?

1641
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 7: It's just the notion that they don't they don't like

1642
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 7: deserve to be in the room or deserve to have

1643
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 7: a say in it because they're not football people just

1644
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 7: rubs me the wrong way because it's like this is

1645
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 7: all theirs, like they bankrolled this entire thing, everybody. So

1646
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 7: if you don't want them in the room, then then

1647
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 7: you don't want any like and that's not gonna work

1648
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 7: with any ownership, you know, I always I know the

1649
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,799
Speaker 7: Celtics very well too. Do you think when the Celtics

1650
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 7: make a major trade when they traded Marcus Smart, do

1651
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 7: you think that Brad Stevens just did it without telling

1652
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 7: Wick Grossbeck, Hey, I think we're going to trade our

1653
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 7: longest tenured player off the team.

1654
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,799
Speaker 3: Though I would say it depends. I mean, I certainly

1655
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 3: there's a lot of unknown here, Like like Alex said,

1656
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 3: there's ambiguity on heavily involved, Like if if you're talking

1657
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:56,600
Speaker 3: to specific.

1658
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 2: If that's why it feels like a headgir line grabbed to.

1659
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 3: Me, like, I mean I would look at it, you know,

1660
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 3: for the Celtics example, like, yeah, they're gonna tell them

1661
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 3: because they don't want them to read about the trade

1662
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 3: in the paper. But we're doing it. And to me,

1663
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 3: the only okay that you would need from ownership if

1664
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 3: it's sort of done quote unquote right is money. Yeah, Like,

1665
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 3: if for whatever reason, you're making a trade and it's

1666
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 3: gonna dramatically impact what Wick and Pat Luca are gonna

1667
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,799
Speaker 3: be doling out, then that they need to be involved

1668
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,839
Speaker 3: in that. But I'm sorry, like, you can't have ownership

1669
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 3: saying no, no, no, no, you can't trademark your smart he's

1670
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 3: the longest time you're guy, we have you. No, no, no,

1671
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:36,799
Speaker 3: we can't. Like that's bad ownership.

1672
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't disagree with that piece of it. I

1673
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 7: just think that people that, oh, why why are they

1674
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 7: involved at all? They're involved at all because they they

1675
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 7: owned the team.

1676
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean think.

1677
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 4: About it this way. They've now been the owner of

1678
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 4: the team for what thirty years, you know, and they've

1679
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 4: been in every draft room. Yeah, they're smart people. I

1680
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 4: mean they're learning, They've learned as they went along as well,

1681
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 4: Like this isn't like a new thing for them. I

1682
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 4: would imagine that the first year that Bill was the

1683
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:11,879
Speaker 4: head coach, they probably had a little bit more input

1684
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 4: than they did fifteen years after Bill because you know,

1685
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 4: we don't need to be as but they were still

1686
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 4: in the room every year for thirty years. I think

1687
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 4: that experience is worth something. Now you have a new regime,

1688
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 4: you have a first time head coach. You know, Elliott Wolf.

1689
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,879
Speaker 4: You know he's been in you know, personnel positions before,

1690
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 4: but never as the guy. I would think that their

1691
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 4: input is valuable. I mean, you've seen thirty drafts. From

1692
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 4: an ownership standpoint, you know they'll be in the room

1693
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 4: as they have been for over thirty for thirty years. Now.

1694
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 4: Are they making the pick? No, but I believe that

1695
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 4: they probably have input.

1696
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,759
Speaker 7: Yeah. To Paul's point, if they sit there and they say,

1697
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 7: you know, we're going to take Drake May, and the

1698
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 7: Craft to say no, you're gonna take JJ McCarthy, and

1699
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:03,839
Speaker 7: that's a problem.

1700
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are. We're gonna take Drake May. No, no, no,

1701
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 3: You're gonna trade down and get those picks. I think

1702
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 3: that's a problem right.

1703
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 7: In terms of that sort of meddling that I agree with.

1704
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 7: But hey, you know, Jonathan Craft says, hey, what are

1705
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 7: you guys thinking?

1706
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 3: Why? What's the plan? Tell me why and sell it?

1707
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 3: Sell me on it?

1708
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 4: Right?

1709
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know why anybody thinks that that

1710
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 7: doesn't go on an All thirty two right.

1711
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, that's not heavily involved. And I agree

1712
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 3: with you that it could be just that and it's

1713
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 3: and it's just like semantics like, to me, that's just

1714
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 3: being an owner. I want to be aware of what

1715
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 3: my team is doing you work for me? You tell me,

1716
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 3: I don't do things without Matt and Fred knowing what

1717
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 3: I'm doing.

1718
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 4: I mean, think about it. Wouldn't it be a dereliction

1719
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 4: of duty if you weren't involved. This could be and

1720
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 4: should be a you know, a franchise altering picky. You know,

1721
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,679
Speaker 4: so hopefully you're not going to have the third pick

1722
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 4: next year. Yeah, you know, so you've got to make

1723
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 4: damn sure that you do it right this year.

1724
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 3: No, But like my point would be if if they're

1725
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 3: involved in what they're doing specifically, I would say that

1726
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 3: there's probably some eye rolling with football people, sure, but

1727
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 3: to have them involved in the room, what you know,

1728
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 3: whatever you want, Like that's yeah, that's going on in

1729
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 3: thirty one other NFL suit.

1730
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 5: I read something from Breer earlier too that literally listed

1731
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 5: like who will actually have a say in the selection.

1732
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 5: I don't know if this was a report or if

1733
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 5: you heard this like directly, but it was drawed Wolf

1734
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:40,719
Speaker 5: AVP McAdoo, TC McCartney, Alonso Heismith, Pat Stewart, Matt grow

1735
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 5: and Cam Williams and Jonathan Kraft was not listed.

1736
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 3: Just so that E scares me a hell of a

1737
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 3: lot more than the ownership being involved too many cooks.

1738
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 7: Yes, I think that's going to be a much smaller list,

1739
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 7: probably starting today, you know, usually twenty four to forty

1740
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 7: eight hours out, it's starting today. When we talked to

1741
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 7: Elliot last week, he said, we're going to get with

1742
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 7: that group, and then Rod and I are going to

1743
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 7: get together and we're going to make it dist.

1744
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing, Fred, that we're not going

1745
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 3: to have for a punchline that we've enjoyed for many

1746
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 3: consecutive years of draft shows. We're not going to make

1747
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 3: fun of the amount of people that are in a

1748
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 3: draft room anymore. Because all of those people are going

1749
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 3: to be in the draft room. I'll guarantee you.

1750
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 4: I think it'll be a bigger draft room. Yeah, yep, yeah.

1751
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 3: Well, now we might not see them all because I

1752
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 3: don't think that we're going to be like Dallas and

1753
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 3: some other teams that you know, they welcome the attention,

1754
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 3: you know, and there's a cast of millions in the

1755
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 3: in the room and everybody gets up and has a

1756
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 3: cigar and shakes hands, you know, like they just did something.

1757
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:40,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember.

1758
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 3: But we're going to have a lot of people in

1759
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 3: the draft room.

1760
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 4: My one time that I was in the draft room

1761
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 4: for the draft was back when Pete Carroll was the coach,

1762
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 4: and it was back at the old stadium and we

1763
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 4: had that that one room and they they almost set

1764
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 4: it up like classroom style and you all sat at

1765
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 4: like a desk looking forward, and it was all the

1766
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 4: coaches and support people and me in the back. And

1767
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 4: I got permission to sit in the draft room. And

1768
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 4: I remember that first day. Pete Carroll comes out, he

1769
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 4: looks around and Robert's with him, and he looks back

1770
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 4: and he sees me, and I see him, Mallia, what's

1771
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 4: he doing here? And Robert goes, don't worry about him.

1772
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 4: But I got to sit in the draft room for

1773
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 4: the whole thing, and it was it was pretty cool.

1774
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 3: I can't believe you never told me that.

1775
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 4: No, No, that was back in Pete Carroll's first year

1776
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 4: was it ninety seven?

1777
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 3: And then he talked to Robert and said, yeah, next time,

1778
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 3: I need to be made aware of that.

1779
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're out.

1780
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 6: So what do you do if like you're in this

1781
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 6: collaboration effort and everyone's not in the same page.

1782
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 3: There's a lot of yelling, probably worried ya how do

1783
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 3: you get not ten eleven people to agree.

1784
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean it's not up to the three.

1785
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 5: It's up for them to compile the data, give their opinion,

1786
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 5: and then the guys in charge make them.

1787
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 3: Actually, I don't hope you're right. I don't think it is.

1788
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:55,919
Speaker 3: I think they're all involved.

1789
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 6: And then what if you get done to like what

1790
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 6: are they going to do? Your scissors? Like what if

1791
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 6: you get down to jordd and Elliott and they're like

1792
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 6: one of them is.

1793
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 3: Super Elliott has the final say? But like, what did

1794
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 3: he say last week? He was talking about he said

1795
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 3: not being stubborn If everybody else is on one thing, like, well,

1796
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 3: there goes your final say.

1797
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, like no, but you you your mind has been changed.

1798
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 4: It's up to them if to change his mind.

1799
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 3: No, But like I mean, it's again, it's hard to

1800
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 3: come up with hypotheticals. But like let's say, let's say

1801
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 3: that Elliott Wolf is steadfast on Marvin Harrison, Junr yep

1802
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 3: and pretty much the rest of them saying we got

1803
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 3: to take a quarterback. So there goes your final say.

1804
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 4: But I would imagine that's already been fleshed out.

1805
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 3: No, I'm just using a hypothetic.

1806
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 4: Okay, but I think that would happen later on.

1807
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so let's let's do Daniels in May. Then

1808
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 3: you know, Wolf only wants to take a quarterback if

1809
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 3: it's Daniels. The others like May just as much. Like

1810
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 3: that's what again, I would have.

1811
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 4: I would hope that that's been already hashed out before

1812
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 4: draft day.

1813
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 6: I hope.

1814
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 3: So who cares when it's fleshed out, They're gonna have

1815
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 3: the potential to change someone's mind, I know, But I

1816
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 3: don't like that, and I want someone with conviction. I

1817
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 3: want someone with the final say to say, yeah, I'm

1818
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 3: going to take all my input, like Alex explained, yes,

1819
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 3: and then I'm going to make the choice.

1820
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1821
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 3: I don't want them to be talked out of it.

1822
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 4: No, I agree, and I think that's the way it is.

1823
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 4: But I think you're talking about the scenario where even

1824
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 4: after that, it's still me against them. They haven't convinced me, right,

1825
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 4: is that what you're talking about?

1826
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 3: Well, Mike, No, the way he kind of said it

1827
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 3: last week is like, I'm not going to be stubborn

1828
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 3: about it, right, I want you to be stubborn about it.

1829
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think there's a degree to what he's saying. Yeah,

1830
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 4: I think there's Are there going to be arguments or

1831
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 4: have there been? Yes, I'll bet you.

1832
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 3: There's definitely worrying about things that happened.

1833
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 4: I know, So I don't Well, maybe it has happened.

1834
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 4: For all we know. They're arguing right now about who

1835
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 4: should be the second pick, you know, I don't know.

1836
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 7: I I have confidence that that's that you don't have

1837
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,520
Speaker 7: anything to worry about there because of just the the

1838
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 7: times that I've gotten to talk to Elliott, I think

1839
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 7: that he's a lot more sure of himself. Then maybe

1840
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 7: that would indicate that he could just be swayed by

1841
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 7: some conversation he randomly has with Cameron Williams.

1842
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 4: And then the way you put it, I agree, but

1843
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 4: I'm talking. I'm sure. Excuse me, I'm sure that. I mean,

1844
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 4: they've had a lot of hours in rooms talking about

1845
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 4: what potentially could happen and what they're going to do.

1846
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 4: I have a feeling, and I'm sure it wasn't always amicable.

1847
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I have a feeling that Elliott's known who they're

1848
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 7: going to take for a while.

1849
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that too.

1850
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, if they stay, Yeah, if they're sticking and picking.

1851
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 4: If somebody makes them a sweetheart deal, then maybe they

1852
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:53,799
Speaker 4: could be, you know, coaxed out of that spot.

1853
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 7: He's got the note in his pocket with you know,

1854
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 7: Drake mayor or nobody written on it, and I I

1855
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 7: think I'm not saying it's necessarily one hundred percent Trake

1856
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 7: may but I think he's known for quite a bit

1857
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 7: who he's gonna take.

1858
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 4: Okay, let's see Paul writes in Uh, he says, where

1859
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 4: does Evan think Mac would have fallen in this year's draft?

1860
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 4: If all else was the same?

1861
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 3: It's a great question.

1862
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, Uh, all else was the same, Probably in between

1863
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 7: Pennix and bo.

1864
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 3: Nicks second round.

1865
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 7: Oh wow, Okay, I would say, which I don't know,

1866
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 7: maybe pick twenty to forty, you know, like somewhere in

1867
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 7: that range.

1868
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 6: Well, and that's with him winning a national championship.

1869
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 7: With who Mac? Yeah, if all else was the same

1870
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,600
Speaker 7: and Mac was Mac in twenty twenty one and you

1871
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 7: put him in this draft, I would say that Pennix

1872
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 7: I would have graded a little bit higher than him,

1873
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 7: and probably on the same plane as Bnicks, he says.

1874
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 4: Paul says, for some reason, I feel like Penix will

1875
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 4: be our next quarterback. I'm not sure or we will

1876
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 4: get there, but hopefully as part of the bag. Mm hmm.

1877
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 6: I wouldn't hate that. You just need to be able

1878
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 6: to protect him.

1879
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, what what would would that? Really? That wouldn't surprise

1880
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 4: you if we ended up with Michael Pennix.

1881
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 6: Not if you trade it back.

1882
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, obviously you got to trade back to get it.

1883
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it wouldn't surprise me at all.

1884
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 6: It wouldn't surprise me.

1885
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 3: No, I would be surprised.

1886
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 4: Would you throw down your I'm out and just walk off?

1887
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 3: Now? I think if you if you want to trade

1888
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 3: down and do the tomorrow method, I can be convinced

1889
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 3: of that. Let's get a really good tackle, let's get

1890
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:42,639
Speaker 3: a really good wide receiver. If we want to trade

1891
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,879
Speaker 3: down and then we take a quarterback, I don't understand.

1892
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 4: They just don't, well because in that bag that you're

1893
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 4: able to get those other things too.

1894
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 3: No, you can't, not if you take a quarterback.

1895
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 4: No, you're trading down and you're taking a quarterback.

1896
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 3: Right, So but you're taking a quarterback with the first one, right,

1897
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 3: and so you're not getting your other needs filled any

1898
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 3: more than you would if you just took one at.

1899
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 4: Three those other but those other picks are higher than

1900
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 4: they would have been.

1901
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 3: Right, No, one pick is higher, the other ones lower.

1902
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,759
Speaker 3: You're going from three to eleven in the Minnesota example.

1903
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I know there are other examples, but you're

1904
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 3: going from three to eleven, and that pick's lower in

1905
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:23,440
Speaker 3: twenty three is higher, right, one pick not picks.

1906
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 6: I feel like Minnesota is going to have to go

1907
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 6: get another first round pick to then trade up two,

1908
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 6: three or the Giants or.

1909
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:36,640
Speaker 7: The Yeah, yeah, they'll trade it from next year. They

1910
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:38,679
Speaker 7: don't have a second round pick next year, though, which

1911
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 7: kind of throws a wrench in some things.

1912
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 3: Plus, I just don't see Minnesota doing it. I don't

1913
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 3: think it's worth it from Minnesota.

1914
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 7: I think that's that's the the problem is that I

1915
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 7: think a lot of these teams look at Drake May

1916
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 7: and JJ and see them on similar planes. And so

1917
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 7: if you're Minnesota, do you just roll the dice that

1918
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,719
Speaker 7: that that JJ as till eleven?

1919
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean everyone's looking at Minnesota because they need

1920
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 4: a quarterback and they have two picks in the first round.

1921
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 4: But what's a wild card? Like, you know, we're all raiders,

1922
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 4: you know, we're all assuming that, oh, a team has

1923
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:17,600
Speaker 4: to have two fairly high picks to swing something, but

1924
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 4: they could also mix in an existing player, right, I think?

1925
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 7: I think the Raiders. The Raiders are a big one,

1926
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 7: but they're Jaden Daniels team because of the coach. So

1927
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 7: if they're not getting Jaden Daniels, someone one of the

1928
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 7: NFL network guys just tweeted that they tried to call

1929
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,759
Speaker 7: the Commanders to get the second pick to take Jaden,

1930
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,719
Speaker 7: and the Commanders basically hung up the phone.

1931
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 3: And we probably when the emailer wrote in about the

1932
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 3: podcast from the Athletic with Diana Russini, we probably should

1933
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 3: have mentioned that that's why he wants to play for

1934
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 3: the Raiders. It's because he Antonio Pierce's coach.

1935
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 4: You know it has history with Okay, past five hundred

1936
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 4: is the ticket hotline. Let's take some phone calls, shall we.

1937
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 4: Eldred is from North Carolina. We haven't been able to

1938
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:08,719
Speaker 4: take a call in a while. What's up, Eldred?

1939
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, I could email while I'm driving. How you doing, Tom?

1940
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 4: What's up?

1941
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 3: What's up, Biggie Mischief?

1942
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 13: WELLA disagree with you. The Minnesota they eleven twenty three yep,

1943
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 13: you got a quarterback, get a wide receiver, and number

1944
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 13: two you get a you get a tackle. You got

1945
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 13: your top three field. Mind might not be the top

1946
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 13: ones you won't, but you got all three needs field.

1947
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:39,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, but got no, you picked three guys at the positions.

1948
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 3: You don't have all three needs filled. You have your workout,

1949
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 3: but it's not really any You have one player that

1950
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:54,639
Speaker 3: you wouldn't have at twenty three. Yeah, like you don't

1951
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 3: have it all figured out if you have a lesser quarterback, right,

1952
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 3: perhaps yeah, perhaps? Yeah, So eleven's not not worse than three.

1953
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, you know there were other

1954
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 4: people picked ahead of Mahomes, right, he turned out pretty good.

1955
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 3: Penix next, Michael Penix is Mahomes.

1956
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 4: Now, No, but I'm just saying that now we have

1957
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 4: a pick at three and thirty four.

1958
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 7: Six guys went ahead of Tom Brady.

1959
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 4: Now we would have one at eleven, twenty three and

1960
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 4: thirty four, correct.

1961
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you're not necessarily feeling all three needs, not necessarily.

1962
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 7: Right, but dressing all three needs, but.

1963
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 3: No more so than you would at three, thirty four

1964
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 3: and whatever. The third round pick is like, you're just

1965
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 3: picking players.

1966
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 4: But that's a big.

1967
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 3: It's a big, it's a big drop down in why

1968
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 3: we're getting exactly and now you're adding another drop down

1969
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 3: in quarterback.

1970
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 4: Yes, you are sacrificing the dropped up but you're getting

1971
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:58,759
Speaker 4: you know, three top thirty four picks.

1972
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 3: Look, if you think Pennis better than May, then do this.

1973
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 3: I know you do.

1974
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:07,600
Speaker 4: I know you do.

1975
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 3: You've said this. I mean I feel like, even though

1976
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 3: you haven't been on the show in a long time,

1977
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 3: I feel like I've heard you say this eighteen times.

1978
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 3: I know you like panics, I don't.

1979
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 4: He's sticking to his guns.

1980
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 3: He's a good passer, Like I called him maybe the

1981
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 3: best draft, the best passer in the draft.

1982
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 4: That's a good thing to be if you're a quarterback.

1983
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 3: Long winding motion doesn't doesn't perform under pressure off platform.

1984
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 3: I actually wrote this like two weeks ago and talked

1985
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 3: about it on the Sports Hub, and I had a

1986
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 3: guy send me one play where he goes and rolls out,

1987
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 3: throws the ball into like quadruple coverage against USC by

1988
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 3: the way, and the guy makes the catch in the

1989
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 3: end zone on a jump ball. I'm like, that's the

1990
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 3: best you could come up with. That's the best you

1991
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 3: could come up with for an example of an off

1992
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 3: platform play by Panix and I and I and I

1993
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 3: actually found a nice tweet from dian Orlowski today that

1994
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 3: had the cube BR numbers under pressure. Yeah, and it

1995
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 3: was like, everybody is really good at it except for one. Yeah,

1996
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 3: that's that's dropped from like eighty five to forty when

1997
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:12,839
Speaker 3: you get down to Panix QBR under pressure.

1998
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say his biggest weaknesses are accuracy in

1999
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 7: the short game and handling pressure, like he's a one

2000
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 7: speed thrower.

2001
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,719
Speaker 3: Well, well, but one of those guys has an eighty

2002
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 3: nine QBR under pressure and the other guy has a forty.

2003
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 7: I would not say that Drake May was bad under pressure,

2004
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:31,679
Speaker 7: but I'm a Drake May guy.

2005
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 13: Because he moved around. He throws off pat.

2006
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 4: You kind of have to do that.

2007
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:41,799
Speaker 3: That's under pressure. Yeah, if you see him drop back. Yeah,

2008
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 3: Drake May's problem is when he has a clean pocket.

2009
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's I think Drake May is the best in

2010
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 7: the draft at sitting in the pocket, staring down the

2011
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 7: barrel knowing he's going to get blown up the pocket.

2012
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,719
Speaker 13: Bro, He's not sitting in the pocket. He's moving, he's running.

2013
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 13: He's not sitting in the pocket and like that.

2014
01:34:57,840 --> 01:34:58,720
Speaker 4: He don't know what he go with.

2015
01:34:58,920 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 13: Did he go off pretform?

2016
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 3: I so here, I'm sorry his out of pocket, his

2017
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 3: out of pocket, qbrs and twenty twenty glasses are going on.

2018
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels ninety nine, JJ McCarthy ninety six, Drake May

2019
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 3: eighty nine, Bo Nick's eighty four, Caleb Williams eighty two,

2020
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 3: and Penix forty. Like so, in other words, five guys

2021
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:24,599
Speaker 3: are really good under pressure and one's really bad.

2022
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,759
Speaker 4: It's the glass glasses, thanks Aldred.

2023
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 7: That's when you know. When the glasses come out, you

2024
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:32,639
Speaker 7: know that you've.

2025
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 3: No because like, if you want to tell me that, listen,

2026
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 3: you're underestimating Michael Pennis, I probably am. Yeah, you know,

2027
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 3: you want to tell me he's such a good passer,

2028
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 3: he can do this, he can do that. I said that,

2029
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 3: I don't think he does well off platform, and I

2030
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 3: get people blonde me like, I don't think that's even

2031
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 3: a debatable fact.

2032
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 7: I would agree with that. I think that one of

2033
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 7: the bigger misconceptions about Penix is that he's super accurate

2034
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 7: to all three levels. When he's really accurate deep, Yeah,

2035
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 7: he's one of the best you know him and Drake May,

2036
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:07,799
Speaker 7: but both of them are very, very good vertical passers.

2037
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 7: If you're if you're gonna have the receivers that Washington

2038
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 7: had and you can just bombs away all game long,

2039
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 7: then Michael Penix is going to be great at that.

2040
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 7: But he has issues under pressure. And it wasn't just

2041
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 7: the Michigan game, Like if you pulled up his pressure dropbacks,

2042
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 7: it happens throughout the entire season. It just happened on

2043
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 7: a bigger scale against Michigan, So everybody pulls it out

2044
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 7: against Michigan. I like Penis. I like him better than

2045
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 7: McCarthy because he's he's is a really good natural thrower

2046
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 7: in terms of just arm talent, velocity, but he's he's

2047
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 7: got to learn to to throw some change ups every

2048
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 7: once in a while. That would be my only nitpick

2049
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:45,679
Speaker 7: with the way he throws the ball.

2050
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 6: Are we sold on the Cardinals keeping Kyler? Yes, Like

2051
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 6: they wouldn't take your quarterback at four?

2052
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I mean you would have heard

2053
01:36:57,320 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 4: something about that, but you never know. They could be

2054
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 4: the trade spot, or they could be hiding their cards.

2055
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 6: Or the Chargers.

2056
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, are they going to keep Chargers?

2057
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 3: Is definitely not trade, not drafting a quarterback.

2058
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Harbor pulls a fast one and if if well,

2059
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 4: but if they did, then they would have to trade

2060
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 4: Herbert and then that team's not going to draft a quarterback, right,

2061
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 4: So either way.

2062
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 6: I'm interested to see what the blackbuster is going to

2063
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,680
Speaker 6: be on Thursday, like someone being like, yeah, I.

2064
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 3: Don't think it's going to be anything because I don't

2065
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 3: think anybody covets these guys. I don't think that anybody

2066
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 3: likes these guys enough to go from eleven to three.

2067
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 4: You're talking about quarterbacks and specific yeah, yeah.

2068
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 3: I mean I think for Caleb Williams, they do it

2069
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:38,879
Speaker 3: like last year.

2070
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 7: Carolina.

2071
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:43,640
Speaker 3: Carolina did it because they liked the guy enough to

2072
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 3: do it. I don't think that Caleb Williams is the

2073
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 3: only guy like that. And it doesn't seem like Chicago's interested.

2074
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting. I feel like looking at the draft

2075
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 6: order that Minnesota might not have to even trade up

2076
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 6: to get to get JJ. I don't as long as like,

2077
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 6: as long as the Giants don't draft a quarterback, I

2078
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 6: feel like they're gonna be fun.

2079
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 7: You have to look at the teams after the Vikings

2080
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 7: correct that could get up and the Raiders Denver, Denver,

2081
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 7: New Orleans correct like those So that's I think the Rams.

2082
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 7: If you're a team like Atlanta in particular, I think

2083
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 7: that JJ is going with the Atlanta pick, like whoever

2084
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 7: ends up, because what's gonna happen is someone who's gonna

2085
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 7: try to jump the line with Minnesota waiting at eleven.

2086
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 7: So is Minnesota gonna jump the line first and just

2087
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 7: trade up and make sure that they get their guy?

2088
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 7: Or what a team like the Raiders, a team like

2089
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 7: the Broncos, would they try to jump over Minnesota knowing

2090
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 7: at eleven that's his floor, he's gonna be at a

2091
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 7: team by eleven.

2092
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 3: That's the eleven to nineteen is like, I think it's

2093
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 3: like seven of those teams are gonna be strongly interested

2094
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 3: in quarterbacks. That's where the draft starts. Does one of

2095
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,679
Speaker 3: those teams do what Evan said and jump the line.

2096
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 5: And that's why it's so scary to even consider moving

2097
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 5: down because it's like, yeah, hypethetically, on paper, a great idea,

2098
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 5: you can fill more needs, but it's like can you

2099
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:06,640
Speaker 5: fill those knees? One trade happens and then it's not

2100
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 5: like the whole draft goes on as it was going

2101
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 5: to go on, like everything changes.

2102
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:12,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all a butterfly of fact.

2103
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 5: You don't know how that's going to change minds of

2104
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 5: other teams and who they're going to go after.

2105
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 4: It's just when you trade down, you have to have

2106
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:20,600
Speaker 4: contingency plans ready to.

2107
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 3: Go well, and that's kind of what I'm talking about

2108
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 3: with trading down and then just saying, well, we're going

2109
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 3: to just take panics. Well, what if he's not available?

2110
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:28,519
Speaker 3: What if Evans scenario happens?

2111
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 2: What if the guard you wanted is gone? Now it

2112
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 2: was all for nothing?

2113
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah? Wow, Okay, what do you think the big story

2114
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 4: will be coming out of the first round?

2115
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 3: You know, a record number of offensive players would be chosen? Okay,

2116
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 3: I do think nineteen is the record.

2117
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 7: I think there's a chance that there's nine in a

2118
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:51,719
Speaker 7: row to start the draft.

2119
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:55,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to do well, you know an email?

2120
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 4: Will you send it around and we all have to

2121
01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 4: answer what our draft stories are going.

2122
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 3: To usually a Douce product, but I can. I can

2123
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 3: effort that tomorrow if you'd like, you want me to

2124
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 3: do that, yeah, you know, yeah, I don't want to

2125
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 3: step on Duce's toes.

2126
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 6: He's he's in calf the is the first defensive player

2127
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 6: going to be from the corner?

2128
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:19,640
Speaker 7: I feel like like Quinon Mitchell, Yes, No, I think

2129
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 7: it'll be Dallas Turner. But where I don't know, Like

2130
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 7: he could go to Atlanta if nobody takes Atlanta's pick,

2131
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 7: like I guess he could, that would probably be the

2132
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:35,640
Speaker 7: first defensive guy. But if that's a quarterback spot ends

2133
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 7: up being a quarterback spot, then I don't know where

2134
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:41,599
Speaker 7: Dallas Turner's You know, when the first defensive guys, it's

2135
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 7: either going to be him, I would think, or Terry

2136
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 7: On Arnold from also from Alabama.

2137
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 4: Travis in West Virginia wants to know, do you plan

2138
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 4: on tipping the picks on Thursday night in order to

2139
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 4: appeal to the fourteen year old girls on social media

2140
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 4: and thereby annoying middle aged men like me. That's a

2141
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 4: fred carl Rick used to like tipping the picks right,

2142
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 4: and then he would get mad when people got mad

2143
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 4: at him.

2144
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 7: I was, what do you mean we're not allowed to

2145
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 7: tip the picks? I'm confused?

2146
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 3: Well, no, like you see him on on Twitter? Well,

2147
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 3: like like on Twitter.

2148
01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:19,200
Speaker 4: All the Jeff Howe was notorious. He would find out

2149
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:19,599
Speaker 4: the pick.

2150
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 7: I was I was right. I thought you meant that

2151
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 7: Eric was Jeff how in this instance? And I was like,

2152
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 7: we're allowed to do that.

2153
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 3: The picks come out on Twitter and then we say, okay,

2154
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 3: the pick is in. Yeah it's Alex. She went with

2155
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 3: the fourth overall pick. Congrats to Alex and her brand.

2156
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:40,520
Speaker 7: Yes, I understand. I go back and forth on tip.

2157
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 3: Went fifth, So don't be too upset about it. Four

2158
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 3: or five could have gone either way. They're looking at

2159
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 3: me like, what, how was he going?

2160
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 7: I think it's silly if you have the not not internally,

2161
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 7: like if if it's on Twitter, right and the information

2162
01:41:57,560 --> 01:41:59,799
Speaker 7: is out there, to sit there and wait for TV

2163
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 7: is kind of crazy.

2164
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:03,720
Speaker 3: Now, we do not do that with the Patriots pick

2165
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 3: until it's on because we do find out about the

2166
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 3: Patriots pick a little bit before even Twitter knows about it,

2167
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 3: and we don't say that until it's out there.

2168
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 8: Right.

2169
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 7: It's very easy. It's a there's a pick line, right,

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Speaker 7: There's a there's a literal phone line that every all

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Speaker 7: thirty two teams in the league are on and if

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01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 7: you just get you can dial into the number. That's

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01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 7: how all these reporters do it. It's not that they're

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01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 7: texting each individual team and asking, oh, who did you take?

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01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 8: Or did you take?

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01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 7: No, there's a pick line that's like, you know, usually

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Speaker 7: I don't know, four or five minutes sometimes ahead of TV,

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01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 7: and the pick just goes over the pick line. You know,

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01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,680
Speaker 7: the Patriots picked Drake May now the you know, the

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01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 7: Falcon or the Cardinals picked Marvin Harrison can tap into that.

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01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 7: They're not supposed to. I mean, technically no. But when

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Speaker 7: I worked at NFL Network, I was on the pick line.

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01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 7: So it's it's so kind.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 7: I was on the recent I was researcher on the

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01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:01,799
Speaker 7: desk on the show.

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01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:05,840
Speaker 3: So I had heard there is I think Jeff Howe

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01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 3: it has been attributed to this that he had a

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01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 3: good friend who worked in production at ESPN who used

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01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 3: to correct text them all the pictures.

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01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's how I used to know.

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01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:20,680
Speaker 4: I don't think that's fair, you know, I mean, I

2193
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 4: think everyone should find it.

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01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:25,680
Speaker 5: It just doesn't matter that much either, Like I don't know, like,

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01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 5: are you filing a story that quickly before everyone?

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01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:31,320
Speaker 2: And are you no? Like you get to tweet.

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01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:33,639
Speaker 4: Him that way, for sure, but get to the fans,

2198
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 4: you all want to hear about it at the same time,

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01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 4: you know, and get that sort of community reaction.

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01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 7: I just think it's silly for us, like on the

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01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:44,439
Speaker 7: on Thursday night and we're sitting there on the show

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01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 7: to act like surprised or to like, oh, you know, Paul,

2203
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 7: like they could do. What are they going to do

2204
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 7: here when we've known for three minutes what they actually

2205
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 7: did because Albert tweeted it out, like what do we now?

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01:43:56,640 --> 01:44:00,719
Speaker 3: We're just play it when we see it on Twitter.

2207
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 3: We'll usually say it yeah, and we'll to answer the

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01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 3: email is question. We'll continue to do that.

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Speaker 4: Yep. Let's go to William and fill him. What's up? Willem?

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01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 14: Thanks Ford, How you doing all right?

2211
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 15: Okay?

2212
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 14: I want to say also high to the Queen Tamara,

2213
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 14: how you're doing all right? I have that I haven't

2214
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 14: called or anything. I just watched or just listening basically

2215
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:33,280
Speaker 14: to a lot of podcasts and everything from Free Agency

2216
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 14: already up to now, and I'm trying a little pissed

2217
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 14: off about it. You know, they better get cute with

2218
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 14: that pick. That's all I got to say. They better

2219
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:46,639
Speaker 14: not get cute with.

2220
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 15: Just take Jaydon James or Drake Man it's not that

2221
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 15: hard to figure out. Just take one of them, whoever

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01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 15: fall to you take that, okay, and and just last

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01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 15: and not least his last.

2224
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 16: Tickets for Evan, Yes, sir, Evan.

2225
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 15: You was at the at the Countbown and pro day.

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01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:06,599
Speaker 11: Correct.

2227
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 15: I was, okay, So you seem about just about.

2228
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 7: Every receiver, right, that's the truth.

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01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:19,679
Speaker 16: Yes, okay, So there's one receiver I haven't heard you

2230
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 16: or Alex Bart talk about. So there's two Hall of

2231
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 16: Fame's Hall of Famer wide receiver sons that city, which

2232
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 16: is mar Harrison Junior and Brandon Rice.

2233
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 15: Correct, Yep, what happened to uh Tarbee Golwens Terrell owens son.

2234
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 7: As far as I know, not in the draft.

2235
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 3: He's really he's available though, right you mean he's not

2236
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 3: going to get drafted?

2237
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, Yeah, I would not consider him on the

2238
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:53,639
Speaker 7: NFL radar very much.

2239
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 3: I saw John Lynch talked about him, I think a

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01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 3: little bit yesterday. He says, because thanks Willam Lynch had

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01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 3: an I meant that he I think it was Lynch

2242
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,719
Speaker 3: in San Francisco. He believes in bloodlines, and he talked

2243
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 3: about all of them, and he mentioned, yeah, Owens his son.

2244
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 7: To I mean another guy, Luke McCaffrey.

2245
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was definitely San Francisco because that's the tweet

2246
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 3: that I read McCaffrey.

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01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:17,680
Speaker 7: I would say Luke McCaffrey is probably the if I

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01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 7: had to say the one receiver that I feel like

2249
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 7: I haven't talked about enough. Trust me, I've talked about

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01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 7: all these guys way too much. I would say it'd

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01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 7: probably be Luke McCaffrey, who's Christian McCaffrey's brother.

2252
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:30,640
Speaker 4: Right, but he's like mid draft, probably like a.

2253
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 7: Fifth or six round pick. Yeah, but he can play good.

2254
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 7: Senior Bowl Week.

2255
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 4: Spian Fresno says Evan, if Fred's back of the napkin

2256
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:41,759
Speaker 4: slash envelope projections end up being more accurate than yours,

2257
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:45,400
Speaker 4: will you reconsider what you're doing with your life? Can

2258
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:48,840
Speaker 4: we turn into this in actual Evan versus Fred competition

2259
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 4: this weekend? I'm team Fred?

2260
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:52,680
Speaker 3: Can we set up a competition? How do we do that?

2261
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 2: But them both?

2262
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:58,679
Speaker 4: Just to be clear, these aren't necessarily people the Patriots will.

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01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 3: Pick, right, That's what I'm saying. We can't set up

2264
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 3: See if we could set up some sort of competition.

2265
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 6: Wait, that would be cool. If we all made our

2266
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 6: own mocks and had to turn them in.

2267
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:07,320
Speaker 3: I'm not doing it.

2268
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:08,599
Speaker 7: I'm done with mox.

2269
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 6: What if we do want we should do? We well,

2270
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 6: I mean just a Patriots one, like what we're gonna do?

2271
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 6: We should and turn them in or post on envelopes.

2272
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 3: They should be like post on a piece of paper.

2273
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 4: Behind us on air and like you know, I should

2274
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 4: say envelopes. Yeah, you guys, most I think we should do.

2275
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 6: That because you only need have you.

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01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 3: Mean, guys, I have drake Man. That's it. I have

2277
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 3: Drake Man.

2278
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 6: Paul's board is going to be picked three man.

2279
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:42,760
Speaker 3: That's an extent of my draft prep.

2280
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 7: Don't tell yourself you had some names on the draft

2281
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:51,719
Speaker 7: shows no information?

2282
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 3: What do you think this is?

2283
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 4: Fred?

2284
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 2: He's information laze the wood.

2285
01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 3: That right, there is more And I'm not lying and

2286
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:01,720
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be self detricading. That's more than

2287
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 3: I have.

2288
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 7: Okay, first of all, he has notes and I'm not

2289
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:05,920
Speaker 7: trying to make fun of you or anything like that,

2290
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 7: but Dane Brugler is the one that did the heavy

2291
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 7: lifting on those notes, let's face it. Yeah, and he

2292
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:12,679
Speaker 7: and I'm not saying that that's a bad thing because

2293
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:13,599
Speaker 7: Dane Brugler rocks.

2294
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 6: But I'm just saying, where did you even get that?

2295
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 3: I don't know where he got that.

2296
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 4: I've been getting marlats for years and they have the

2297
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 4: number one prospect.

2298
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:27,080
Speaker 7: I think they have Jaden Daniels, don't they Yeah, yeah.

2299
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 4: They don't even have Caleb Williams.

2300
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:28,839
Speaker 3: There's a surprise.

2301
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 7: I've been reading the guy who goes number one, number one.

2302
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 7: I've been reading draft guys my whole life, since I

2303
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:38,680
Speaker 7: was a little kid. The Beast is the most extensive

2304
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:42,559
Speaker 7: one I've ever seen, just in terms of injury history,

2305
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:46,759
Speaker 7: any sort of off field red flags. Obviously, you know strength,

2306
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 7: and you know scouting strengths and weaknesses. You know quotes

2307
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 7: from anonymous sources like it. Just that thing is as

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01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 7: comprehensive as you'll find.

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01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,760
Speaker 6: When I picture Evan saying he has read those his

2310
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 6: entire life, I'm picturing like your dad, like reading them

2311
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:02,719
Speaker 6: to you to go to bed, like, instead of bringing

2312
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 6: like a little cute like my children's I'm reading that.

2313
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 7: It started more with fantasy football, to be honest with you,

2314
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 7: because I mean, as like an eight year old, I'm

2315
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 7: not necessarily into the draft, but I would say I

2316
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 7: started reading draft guides at probably like twelve or thirteen.

2317
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 4: Do you remember, Like you guys are probably too young,

2318
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 4: but they used to have these like cloth books for

2319
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:26,639
Speaker 4: like really little kids. Yeah, so you didn't get paper cuts.

2320
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:29,599
Speaker 4: Like I can see Evan having like these cloth draft

2321
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:32,320
Speaker 4: guys and like, you know, like there's spittle on it

2322
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:34,760
Speaker 4: because you know, he's like two years old and it's

2323
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 4: just a mass replacement.

2324
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 5: His first ABC book was like ABC's of NFL.

2325
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong.

2326
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:45,799
Speaker 4: I can't the building blocks have like players' names on literally.

2327
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't even argue.

2328
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 3: Sure these are.

2329
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:54,679
Speaker 4: Facts, Dylan and Nashville, says Fred. I'm watching YouTube live.

2330
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 4: Thanks for writing your back of the envelope list on

2331
01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:59,720
Speaker 4: the back of a printed piece of paper. That made

2332
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:02,759
Speaker 4: me f list is amazing. You can tell Evan watched

2333
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:04,760
Speaker 4: every one of these guys games.

2334
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:06,680
Speaker 3: You can. Oh, there was one that I think he

2335
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 3: caught you.

2336
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, whoever the a linebacker?

2337
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:12,719
Speaker 6: Linebacker? Ohio State?

2338
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:14,599
Speaker 4: Oh Steel Chambers.

2339
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, now I'm gonna have to go watch Steel Chambers tonight.

2340
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 4: Ohio.

2341
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 2: I don't think you like what a name?

2342
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,600
Speaker 7: No, I actually did I think out of all the

2343
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:27,640
Speaker 7: positions besides maybe guard, guard and off ball linebacker the

2344
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:30,479
Speaker 7: two spots that I would be blown away if they

2345
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 7: use a pick before you know, a flyer in the

2346
01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 7: six or seventh round. So I actually did just finish

2347
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 7: up like the top of the linebacker class this year,

2348
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 7: which is not very good. So Steel Chambers defense.

2349
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:44,600
Speaker 6: Could there be a chance for all eight picks or

2350
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 6: offense for the Patriots?

2351
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 7: I still think eight. I think there's I think there's

2352
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 7: some dart throws at the end of the draft.

2353
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 3: There's a chance for that, whereas there's not a chance

2354
01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:57,640
Speaker 3: the other way in my opinion. Yeah, I mean probably not,

2355
01:50:57,800 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 3: but I think there's definitely not gonna be all late

2356
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:01,639
Speaker 3: on defense, edge.

2357
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 7: Rusher, world safety. Like, I still think that there's some

2358
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:07,719
Speaker 7: places on defense that if you have a draftable grade

2359
01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 7: on somebody in the sixth or seventh round and you know,

2360
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:12,720
Speaker 7: if you pass rusher or something like that, I think

2361
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 7: that they would do that.

2362
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 4: As as people are veterans of the show, No, we'll

2363
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 4: be live from the draft party here at a Lets

2364
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 4: Stadium on Thursday. Nolan from California has a question, if

2365
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 4: you could build your ultimate draft party room, what would

2366
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:28,320
Speaker 4: it be? You could watch any venue, food, you could

2367
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:31,799
Speaker 4: watch with anyone. What would your ultimate draft party room.

2368
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 7: Look like the Patriots were them inside, it is inside yeah, yeah, you'd.

2369
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:38,680
Speaker 4: Be eating while they're picking.

2370
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 7: And no no food, just.

2371
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:42,719
Speaker 2: Yea chain smoke.

2372
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 8: I don't know.

2373
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 4: I think what the Patriots do and what most teams

2374
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:49,679
Speaker 4: do is pretty cool. You know, they've got they've got

2375
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 4: the big, huge screens, and then after each pick they

2376
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 4: bring out, you know, the notable people.

2377
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 3: I'm always interested in, like what the actual draft board

2378
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 3: was after the fact, but the draft itself.

2379
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 6: I don't know why I said, you know football when

2380
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 6: Evan said draft.

2381
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 4: Have you seen you?

2382
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, like you know the little clear cage that the

2383
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 6: person was kept in and the second one season, Yes,

2384
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 6: so the drafto will be in there. And then so

2385
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 6: people no, because you can see through.

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01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:25,679
Speaker 7: The like fishbowl, so yes, like them in the middle.

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01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:30,640
Speaker 7: And then but can I hear no? So then I

2388
01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:32,680
Speaker 7: want to do what Fred did with Pete Carroll.

2389
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 4: In the War.

2390
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:34,639
Speaker 2: You should join the video team.

2391
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:35,879
Speaker 4: Interesting.

2392
01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:37,800
Speaker 7: No, I want to be able to report on what

2393
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:39,680
Speaker 7: I hear there.

2394
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just in and out.

2395
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 4: I have to go back to the Patriots Football Weekly

2396
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 4: in which I wrote that.

2397
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 3: Report from being in the Wars before me.

2398
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, with Pete Carroll.

2399
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 7: I just love you know, like last year the Cardinals

2400
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 7: had a camera on Manty Austin for it when he

2401
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 7: was like trading up and down the board and that

2402
01:52:57,439 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 7: stuff is crazy, Like he just just he was on

2403
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 7: you know, like that type of stuff. I just think

2404
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 7: it's really cool.

2405
01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:06,599
Speaker 4: I just remember we're talking about this before we went

2406
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 4: on air. I forget. But anyway, back in ninety seven

2407
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 4: Peaks first year, I got an opportunity to sit in

2408
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:12,760
Speaker 4: the war room.

2409
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was on air.

2410
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:16,639
Speaker 4: That was on air, Yeah, and I just I remember

2411
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 4: he comes out with craft and Pete looks at.

2412
01:53:20,360 --> 01:53:24,120
Speaker 7: Miss like, who's that We told this exactly?

2413
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:29,160
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's okay, well you never know. Times you had

2414
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:30,639
Speaker 2: just heard it today for the first.

2415
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:32,680
Speaker 3: Time, and plus the audience changes out.

2416
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 4: I don't know how radio you know, from being a radio.

2417
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 3: Some people were listening earlier, they just finished lunch and

2418
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:43,599
Speaker 3: now there checking in friends.

2419
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 7: His his back of the envelope made me think of

2420
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 7: the Felgrim as big board that's going on these last

2421
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:51,639
Speaker 7: couple of weeks. And I'm not allowed to talk smack

2422
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 7: about it because they give Barth opportunities to talk on

2423
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:57,840
Speaker 7: air on it, But I mean talk about a waste

2424
01:53:57,840 --> 01:53:58,439
Speaker 7: of time.

2425
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 4: A lot of times the guys that they end.

2426
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:06,640
Speaker 7: Up hitting but they don't understand. I told him I

2427
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:08,599
Speaker 7: wasn't gonna do it. So that's okay, Okay, we'll talk

2428
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 7: about later.

2429
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 4: Okay, off off the Yeah. Uh Daniels in Tampa? What's up? Daniel, Daniel?

2430
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 4: You guys doing good? What you guys?

2431
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:24,840
Speaker 14: Donovan Jenny who I read to hear them for me?

2432
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:26,800
Speaker 4: Five?

2433
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 16: Guy?

2434
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 7: I don't know who he's talking?

2435
01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 3: Are we talking about? I only heard Donovan, Donovan Jennings,

2436
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:36,240
Speaker 3: Donovan Van Jennings.

2437
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 7: Not not really super familiar with him.

2438
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:42,160
Speaker 4: Now what school is he from?

2439
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 6: US?

2440
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 7: The US University of South Florida, I mean Jovon Baker,

2441
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 7: Donovan Jennings, John Baker.

2442
01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 3: I've heard.

2443
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:56,480
Speaker 6: It says the Patriot toasted USF offensive tackle Donovan Jennings

2444
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 6: only official visit that was fifteenth.

2445
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:01,520
Speaker 3: Okay, well we're talking about forty times?

2446
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 7: Oh okay, yeah, I mean he might have ran a

2447
01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 7: past forty times.

2448
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 3: I don't.

2449
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:09,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not super familiar with him, and I I

2450
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 7: have about twenty tackles that I've watched film on. So

2451
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 7: the fact that he's not one of them does not

2452
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 7: bode well for him getting drafted.

2453
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 3: But I thought we were talking about receivers.

2454
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 4: Are you Are you related to him, Daniel, because you're

2455
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 4: calling from Tampa right us.

2456
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 13: F No, No, but my wife was.

2457
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 4: Okay, I went to Tampa for a couple of years.

2458
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:39,160
Speaker 4: So all right, all right, thanks for the call, Daniel.

2459
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 4: All right.

2460
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 3: I mean that's tough. He had all the way down

2461
01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:47,560
Speaker 3: there where even Evan didn't watch the tape for that guy.

2462
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 7: Nope, nope. Like I said, I think I've I did

2463
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 7: twenty tackles in this draft, so that goes pretty all right.

2464
01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:59,520
Speaker 4: Well, before we get too far towards the end here,

2465
01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 4: just want to remind everybody we will be live at

2466
01:56:03,320 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 4: the draft at the GPA Trim here at the stadium.

2467
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:09,280
Speaker 4: They have the big Draft party. It's so big now

2468
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:12,800
Speaker 4: it takes over the Gpatrium and the club, the Putnam

2469
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 4: Club where it used to be just in the Putnam Club.

2470
01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 4: This spillover now. So we'll be live starting at seven

2471
01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:24,680
Speaker 4: thirty on Thursday night and live throughout the draft. Unlike

2472
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:27,960
Speaker 4: all other years, this year will be live video on

2473
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 4: Patriots dot Com and the Patriots app from seven to

2474
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 4: thirty until the end of the first round. That's the

2475
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 4: first time we've ever done live video all night on social.

2476
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 4: Right around eight thirty or so, we'll go live video

2477
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:46,280
Speaker 4: on social on all the various channels. So we'll capture

2478
01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:50,040
Speaker 4: that first pick, assuming that they stay put, we'll capture

2479
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:52,640
Speaker 4: that live on Social as well. But if you're on

2480
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 4: patriots dot com, just stick with Patriots dot com the

2481
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 4: whole night and that's where we'll be.

2482
01:56:57,920 --> 01:56:59,080
Speaker 3: So that is where we'll be.

2483
01:56:59,200 --> 01:56:59,879
Speaker 4: It's exciting.

2484
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 3: Unfortunately that deprives you of the full Paul because we're

2485
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 3: on videos.

2486
01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 4: That's kind of like the full Monty.

2487
01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta be toned down on video.

2488
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to the la lens on video?

2489
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 4: What lens lens? Yeah?

2490
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, getting nervous.

2491
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 4: Okay, have you thought about your outfits yet? Anybody?

2492
01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:22,200
Speaker 7: I didn't think about it briefly?

2493
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 3: Oh well, what do we have a dress code?

2494
01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:26,520
Speaker 4: No?

2495
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 3: Then no, okay, big night, we don't.

2496
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 7: You don't want to come in on your every day clothes?

2497
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:37,000
Speaker 3: You want to know? Yeah, right now I'm coming in

2498
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 3: my every day close right now. Okay, what's arguing this?

2499
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 4: And that? A big, big night on TV.

2500
01:57:45,080 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 6: It's a big night.

2501
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:47,480
Speaker 4: I know we're on TV. But it's it's you know,

2502
01:57:47,600 --> 01:57:48,560
Speaker 4: more of a festive.

2503
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 6: You know, it would be like four K camera.

2504
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:56,600
Speaker 5: It's a I want to be the organization, one of

2505
01:57:56,640 --> 01:57:59,640
Speaker 5: the prospects suits that they wear with like all.

2506
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 3: Do and perk.

2507
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:04,800
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.

2508
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 4: If this is an all males show, I'd have a

2509
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 4: good comment now by it being a tenth pole event.

2510
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 4: But anyway, I had to get it in there.

2511
01:58:15,400 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 3: I had to get it, didja?

2512
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 4: All right? That's going to do it for this edition

2513
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:20,440
Speaker 4: of Patriots Unfiltered.

2514
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:24,120
Speaker 7: Tomorrow we have draft countdowns Draft.

2515
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:27,120
Speaker 4: Countdown at noon, then we have John Rook at two

2516
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:30,520
Speaker 4: with the Patriots Playbook, and then of course Thursday we'll

2517
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 4: be live at seven thirty before the draft. So we'll

2518
01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 4: see you then. Very exciting. Can't wait.

2519
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:45,160
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