WEBVTT - ScienceStuff Classic: What is a Quantum Computer?

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks a lot, Hey, Happy New year. In case you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know, twenty twenty five was the Year of Quantum,

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<v Speaker 1>the year where we celebrated the one hundredth anniversary of

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<v Speaker 1>the development the theory of quantum mechanics. So to end

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<v Speaker 1>the year, we're going to re air our episode that

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<v Speaker 1>answers the question what is a quantum computer. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>good episode because it's a nice introduction to quantum ideas

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll hear what it's like to go inside an

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<v Speaker 1>actual quantum computer lab. We'll be back next week with

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<v Speaker 1>a new episode about the science of imagination, What is

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<v Speaker 1>it and how does it work in your brain? So

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<v Speaker 1>be sure to come back next week for that, But

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<v Speaker 1>until then, please enjoy this field trip into the quantum world. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Sigence Stuff, a production of iHeartRadio. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is hoorheitch Ham and to the end of the program, we

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about a technology that made potentially impact the

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<v Speaker 1>life of every single human on Earth and might change

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<v Speaker 1>how we protect data and come up with passwords. It

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<v Speaker 1>might help us make new and exciting materials, and it

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<v Speaker 1>might render cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin and dotgecoin totally useless. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about quantum computers. What are they, how do they work?

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<v Speaker 1>And most exciting is that we're going to get to

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<v Speaker 1>visit one of them and actually hear it in action.

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<v Speaker 1>So power up your curiosity, log in, and let's answer

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<v Speaker 1>the question how do quantum computers work? Hey? Everyone? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So when I started this episode, I was both terrified

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<v Speaker 1>and excited. Terrified because explaining anything with the word quantum

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<v Speaker 1>is really hard, but excited because I had heard that

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine was making quantum computers just ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes from my house and this was a great excuse

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<v Speaker 1>for me to go take a look at them. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to go see these quantum computers in person

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the episode, but before that, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make sure that I understood what they were,

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<v Speaker 1>how they work, and also what they're potentially going to

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<v Speaker 1>be used for. So this episode is split into three parts.

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<v Speaker 1>What is a quantum computer and how does it work?

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<v Speaker 1>What are quantum computers for? And then we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go see the quantum computers. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how they're made and why they're so hard to get

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<v Speaker 1>them to work. Our guide through all of this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be my friend who's making the quantum computers,

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<v Speaker 1>Professor Oscar Pater. He's a professor of physics and applied

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<v Speaker 1>physics at Caltech and he's the head of quantum hardware

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<v Speaker 1>for Amazon. He does research on nanophotonics, quantum optics, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course, quantum computers. Here's my visit to Oscar Painter's lab. A. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>os Care, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you good to see you after so many years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's been a while. Huh yeah, well thanks so

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<v Speaker 1>much for talking with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been a while. Happy to try to fill

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<v Speaker 2>you in on some of the things we've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>in the areas of quantic computing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the first thing I wanted to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>him about was just what does the word quantum mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I feel like we're going to need that to

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<v Speaker 1>understand what a quantum computer is.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The word quantum is the word we used to describe

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<v Speaker 1>how things behave at the level of atoms and the

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<v Speaker 1>tiny little particles that make up the atoms. So in

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<v Speaker 1>our everyday lives, we're used to things being solid and

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<v Speaker 1>us being able to hold them. Like, for example, if

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<v Speaker 1>you take a piece of wood or a ball. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you take that piece of wood or ball and

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<v Speaker 1>you chop it up, and you keep chopping it up,

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<v Speaker 1>you get down to atoms, and then you'll notice that

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<v Speaker 1>those atoms don't behave in the same way that a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of wood or a ball do. Here's how Oscar

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<v Speaker 1>explains it.

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<v Speaker 2>It turns out that down to the microscopic scale, so

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<v Speaker 2>not our everyday scale of things, the laws of physics

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<v Speaker 2>that dominate in that regime is quantum mechanics, and quantum

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<v Speaker 2>mechanics is our theory that has some strange attributes that

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<v Speaker 2>we don't experience every day. Exact ample, it postulates that

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<v Speaker 2>things can be in superposition, so you can have objects

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<v Speaker 2>being in sort of what we think of as two

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<v Speaker 2>distinct realities at the same time. Imagine having a particle

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<v Speaker 2>in one position and another position simultaneously. That seems very

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<v Speaker 2>odd to us, but in quantum mechanics it's very natural.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, for example, I grabbed this piece of wood in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me, and it's a piece of wood. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not two things at the same time, right, It's in

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<v Speaker 1>one location.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's sitting there firmly right in front of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, if I had an atom in front of me

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<v Speaker 1>or an electron, it wouldn't exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>You would find that if you repeated the measurement or

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<v Speaker 2>finding its position multiple times, you might find that, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I get this weird outcome that sometimes I measure it here,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes I measure it there. And that's because it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>in many places at once, all right, And that's fundamental

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<v Speaker 2>to the description of quantum mechanics. The way I like

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<v Speaker 2>to think about quantum mechanics is really as waves and amplitudes.

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<v Speaker 2>So think about you're at a pond and you throw

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<v Speaker 2>a rock in a pond, and you see this ripple

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<v Speaker 2>of the rock. Right, That's how I think about, Like

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<v Speaker 2>the rocks are sort of the particles, and these wave

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<v Speaker 2>phenomena are sort of the actual physical quantum mechanical description

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<v Speaker 2>of that particle.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the particle, the thing, the atom, or the electron.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the rock you throw into the pond, no,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's actually the ripple of the ripple. Yeah, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's this wave.

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<v Speaker 2>So I may have started with something that was very local,

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<v Speaker 2>like that rock, but then it becomes very quickly it

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<v Speaker 2>sort of propagates out and is actually better described as

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<v Speaker 2>this wave on the pond, because.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a ripple and a wave in a pond like that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of in a lot of places at the

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<v Speaker 1>same exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. And then the interference is important to understand.

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<v Speaker 2>If I throw two rocks in the pond, then I

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<v Speaker 2>see the sort of interference of the ripple patterns coming

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<v Speaker 2>from each rock that flashed in the pond.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Like each ripple starts at simple, but then they

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<v Speaker 1>start to mix together and form this complex pattern on

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<v Speaker 1>the surface of the pod.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, like how do they evolve in time?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so when you get down to the level of atoms,

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<v Speaker 1>things behave really strangely. Scientists think of things at that

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<v Speaker 1>level not as little tiny balls, but as waves or

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<v Speaker 1>ripples of energy, like the ripples in a pond. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you may think, wait a minute, if things are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wavy and strange at the level of atoms, why

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it that way when you get to big stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like a piece of wood or a ball. And the

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<v Speaker 1>answer is that they are that way. There's just a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of atoms in a piece of wood, and from

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<v Speaker 1>a distance, it gives you the impression that it's solid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sort of like how some clouds from Afar they

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<v Speaker 1>might look solid, once you get up close to them,

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<v Speaker 1>they're actually kind of fuzzy and wispy, and all the

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<v Speaker 1>water droplets are moving around. So that's quantum. Now, a

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<v Speaker 1>quantum computer is what happens when you make a regular computer,

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<v Speaker 1>but you make the circuits out of individual atoms or

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<v Speaker 1>particles like electrons.

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<v Speaker 2>Classical computers are formed from things that are very very

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<v Speaker 2>classical in nature.

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<v Speaker 1>And they operate kind of on hard switches.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like, yeah, that's right. The transistors on your phone

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<v Speaker 2>what we call these types of elements. The transistors are

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<v Speaker 2>used to store information or perform calculations, and the transistors

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<v Speaker 2>are really set by a bunch of electrons in part

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<v Speaker 2>of the circuit. And usually you're talking about quite a

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<v Speaker 2>few electrons.

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<v Speaker 1>Because regular transistors are huge. They're bigger than an atom.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly, that's physically what's going on in your phone.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I'm telling you is that the way to

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<v Speaker 2>think about it is in the quantum case, I just

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<v Speaker 2>have one electron.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, the circuits are made out of individual electrons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, atoms is exactly what you're doing or a quantum

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<v Speaker 2>particle doesn't have to be electrons, can be other particles.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the sort of very early idea from people

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<v Speaker 2>like FIM and others back in the nineteen eighties is

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to do this, and you better make

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<v Speaker 2>them out of quantum mechanical objects to begin with.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So if you make a computer where the circuits

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<v Speaker 1>are made of individual quantum objects like atoms or electrons,

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<v Speaker 1>then you get a quantum computer. And what that does

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<v Speaker 1>is that it makes their calculations also quantum mechanical. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is where the concept of a bit comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a regular bit in your computer, and a

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<v Speaker 1>bit is like a one or zero, but a cubit

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<v Speaker 1>is a quantum mechanical one or zero.

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<v Speaker 2>Classic computers are formed from digital bits and they go

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<v Speaker 2>between one and zero. A quantum computer doesn't have these

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<v Speaker 2>hard zero one states. It has every possibility in between.

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<v Speaker 2>So imagine if we have these two states zero in one.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you that a quantum system can be in

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<v Speaker 2>two different states at once, right, So it can be

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<v Speaker 2>in zero and one at the same time, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can have a different weight of zero or one at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time. It could be ten percent zero ninety

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<v Speaker 2>percent one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a shade of gray.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so you have all those possibilities in between.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be zero or one or anything in between.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be black, white, dark, gray, light gray exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So it has all those shades in between. You can

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<v Speaker 2>take zero with some fraction and add it to one

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<v Speaker 2>with any other fraction. You can have any combination of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So an a regular computer, if you multiply two bits together,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you're multiplying two fixed numbers together, like three

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<v Speaker 1>times four. But in a quantum computer, when you multiply

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<v Speaker 1>two cubits together, it's like you're multiplying two things that

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<v Speaker 1>can be lots of numbers at the same time. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, it's like you're multiplying every number from zero

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<v Speaker 1>to one hundred times every number from zero to a thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>all at the same time in one operation. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>makes quantum computers unique. They take this weirdness of the

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<v Speaker 1>quantum world and it lets you do math with it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>actually it's not doing all of those multiplications or calculations

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. It's more like how Oscar described

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<v Speaker 1>it earlier. If you drop two rocks in a pond,

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<v Speaker 1>you see the two ripples spread out and mix together

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<v Speaker 1>to form a complex ripple pattern. That's more of the

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<v Speaker 1>picture of what a quantum computer does. It doesn't do

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<v Speaker 1>calculations with hard numbers. It does calculations with the ripples

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<v Speaker 1>and patterns of quantum numbers. Of course, my next question

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<v Speaker 1>for Oscar was what is that good for? Why would

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do math? This way? When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ask Oscar what quantum computers are for,

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<v Speaker 1>and then at the end we're going to go check

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<v Speaker 1>out the ones he's built. You're listening to science stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. Okay, to recap, we learned that a quantum

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<v Speaker 1>computer is a regular computer whose circuits are made with

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<v Speaker 1>individual atoms or small particles like electrons, and by doing

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<v Speaker 1>that you can do quantum calculations. That is, you can

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<v Speaker 1>do math, but with numbers that are actually lots of

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<v Speaker 1>different numbers at the same time. So now the question

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<v Speaker 1>is why would you want to do that? What are

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<v Speaker 1>quantum computers? Four? Here's more of my conversation with quantum

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<v Speaker 1>physicists Oscar Painter. Let's say it's a few years into

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<v Speaker 1>the future and we have quantum computers, yes, in our phones,

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<v Speaker 1>like I have one in my pocket, what can I

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<v Speaker 1>do with it? And how is my life different?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a very unlikely scenario. Okay, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's the wrong way to think about how quantic computers

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<v Speaker 2>might change our lives, at least as far as I

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<v Speaker 2>can project into the future. I think the best way

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<v Speaker 2>to think about a quantic computer as we envision it

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<v Speaker 2>right now is that it will be more like a supercomputer.

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<v Speaker 2>So a supercomputer is just a very large computer that

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<v Speaker 2>can perform calculations beyond what our desktop, our personal computers

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<v Speaker 2>can do. And these are usually very large, almost building

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<v Speaker 2>scale computers and computer clusters that have many, many different

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<v Speaker 2>processing units that are all integrated together, and through that

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<v Speaker 2>scale you can perform a huge number of computations per

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<v Speaker 2>second and therefore compute some of the hardest problems that

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<v Speaker 2>are out there. A lot of them are used for

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<v Speaker 2>chemistry problems. They're used to study particle physics, so fundamental physics,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to understand models of quantum particles that are beyond

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<v Speaker 2>the current standard model. There used to compute the properties

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<v Speaker 2>of materials, climate modeling, and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So usually science and tech, yeahs, and.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always this competition between different nations who has the

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<v Speaker 2>fastest or the biggest supercomputer.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, So you envision quantum computers will be sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like a specialized version of computer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be some very special type of supercomputer

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<v Speaker 2>that can solve specific problems that quantic computers will be

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<v Speaker 2>very effective at that we can't do today on classic computers,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter how much we scale them up. And the

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<v Speaker 2>key is, it's not just a faster supercomputer. It performs

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<v Speaker 2>calculations in a fundamentally different way, and therefore it can

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<v Speaker 2>tackle problems that are possibly outside of the reach of

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<v Speaker 2>these conventional classical supercomputers. What do you mean, out of

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<v Speaker 2>the reach meaning that no matter how fast they get

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<v Speaker 2>or how big they get, they'll never be able to

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<v Speaker 2>compute some.

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<v Speaker 1>Of these problems, never or take an infinite Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just the scaling is so bad for these problems.

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<v Speaker 2>You would take way too long and require way too

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<v Speaker 2>large on machine. So no matter how hard we work

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<v Speaker 2>on our current computing technology, it has limits, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>known and you can prove it for certain problems. And

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<v Speaker 2>quantic computers when they looked at theoretically these same problems,

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<v Speaker 2>they realize that the same restrictions or limitations for quantum

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<v Speaker 2>computers are not there. There's examples where we believe and

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<v Speaker 2>strongly believe that certain mathematical problems that are important are

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<v Speaker 2>really really hard to perform and can't be solved using

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<v Speaker 2>classical means, no matter how much we improve the technology.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter if I have a building full of supercomputers,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah exactly, you'll never be able to, say, just fill

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<v Speaker 1>the world with them.

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<v Speaker 2>You still won't be able to do it. Yet a

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<v Speaker 2>quantic computer can solve it pretty efficiently.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, step me through some of these problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Like so the example that everyone points to, and it

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty amazing that people found this, But there's this

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<v Speaker 2>mathematical problem and it just happens to be very applicable

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<v Speaker 2>to our safety or security of our data. So it

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<v Speaker 2>turns out that most of the security of all of

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<v Speaker 2>the data you hold, all the data that banks or

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<v Speaker 2>various institutions around the world want to be safe and protected,

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<v Speaker 2>they typically encrypt it. And those encryption techniques that have

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<v Speaker 2>been used were what are called RSA encryption, where you

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<v Speaker 2>want to take a large number and understand what its

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<v Speaker 2>prime factors are.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the first big thing that quantum computers can

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<v Speaker 1>be useful. The one that got people really excited about

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<v Speaker 1>them in the nineties is in breaking password encryption. So

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<v Speaker 1>whenever you enter your password on a website or when

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<v Speaker 1>you download your bank statement, that information is encrypted or

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<v Speaker 1>scrambled so that if anyone happens to catch that information,

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<v Speaker 1>they can't tell what it says. And the whole scheme

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<v Speaker 1>is based on the idea that if I gave you

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<v Speaker 1>a really large number, it's really hard to find what

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<v Speaker 1>its prime factors are. Here's how Oscar explains it, but

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<v Speaker 1>just to give you a quick heads up, a prime

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<v Speaker 1>number is a number that can't be divided except by

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<v Speaker 1>itself or by one. So, for example, thirteen is a

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<v Speaker 1>prime number because you can't fight thirteen by anything except

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen and one. And the same goes for seventeen, nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three and so on. Anyways, here's Oscar explaining it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I give you a number, and I say, tell

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<v Speaker 2>me what the prime factors are, and you have to

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<v Speaker 2>break it down to its prime factors. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a simple one is, you know, like two, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>one times two, one and two those are the two

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<v Speaker 2>prime factors, right, But it gets harder as these numbers

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<v Speaker 2>get bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>If I tell you one million, three hundred forty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thirteen, very hard to actually answer what those what

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<v Speaker 2>the prime factors are. But if I give you the

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<v Speaker 2>prime factors, you can multiply them together and very quickly

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<v Speaker 2>get the answer to what that larger number is.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if you know the prime factors, I can

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<v Speaker 2>give you what they multiply to. But if you give

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<v Speaker 2>me the number that they multiply to without then I

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<v Speaker 2>have a very hard time finding out what the prime factors.

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<v Speaker 1>Are because you'd have to get you kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>to guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, there's mathematical techniques to try to find these,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're very inefficient. And so it turns out that

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<v Speaker 2>most of the security of the way we encrypt information

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<v Speaker 2>is based upon that asymmetry and how hard the problem is.

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<v Speaker 1>So now, let's say somebody has a quantum computer.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, then they can find those prime factors and they

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<v Speaker 2>can now decrypt all that information.

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<v Speaker 1>They can just grab it from the air, yeah and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, yeah, I can find the prime factors and then

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<v Speaker 2>I can use that to decrypt the information.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be easy for a quantum computer you just

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<v Speaker 1>press a button and will tell you, Oh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>an oscar or his secret decoder.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly, so that would you know. That obviously concerned

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people when that algorithm was developed.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this gets a little bit heavy into encryption and

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<v Speaker 1>quantum algorithms, but the main point is that most of

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<v Speaker 1>the security of our passwords and our sensitive information, and

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<v Speaker 1>also the encryption of things like bitcoin and all those cryptocurrencies,

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<v Speaker 1>they all depend on this one math problem which is

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<v Speaker 1>really hard for regular computers, even supercomputers to solve. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is a problem of finding the two prime numbers

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<v Speaker 1>that multiply to get a really large number. But then

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety five, a computer scientist named Peter Shore

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<v Speaker 1>publish the paper titled Polynomial time Algorithms for prime factorization

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<v Speaker 1>of discrete logarithms on a quantum computer, which essentially showed

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<v Speaker 1>that if you have a quantum computer, you can solve

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<v Speaker 1>this problem in a short amount of time. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is probably the main reason that people have been rushing

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<v Speaker 1>to make quantum computers since then, because imagine if everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, people, companies, countries are all protecting their

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<v Speaker 1>secrets using the same trick but you had a special

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<v Speaker 1>quantum computer that could break that trick, you could rule

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Now, the details of how Peter Shore's algorithm

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<v Speaker 1>works are a little complicated to explain here, but the

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<v Speaker 1>essence of it is that you're using the ripples on

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<v Speaker 1>au pawn nature of quantum numbers on a quantum computer

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<v Speaker 1>to basically try out every possible combination for how to

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<v Speaker 1>break your secret encryption, and you use some clever math

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<v Speaker 1>tricks so that these ripples combine and mix together until

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<v Speaker 1>the right answer pops out. So that is the main

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<v Speaker 1>reason that people are excited about quantum computers. But there

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<v Speaker 1>are other reasons and other possible applications, So here's Oscar

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<v Speaker 1>telling me about them.

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<v Speaker 2>Another example is maybe more natural to think about, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is where quantum computers were first proposed. It to

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<v Speaker 2>be interesting or useful, and that is the simulation of

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<v Speaker 2>nature itself. Nature as we know it is not classical.

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<v Speaker 2>If you peel the layers of the onion enough and

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<v Speaker 2>you get down to the core, right to the atomic scale,

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<v Speaker 2>it turns out that the laws of physics that dominate

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<v Speaker 2>is quantum mechanics. Okay, like the actual mathematics of that

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<v Speaker 2>When you describe it. When you have many particles, it

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<v Speaker 2>quickly becomes something that you can't simulate with a classical computer.

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<v Speaker 2>So all those interference of all the particles and keeping

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<v Speaker 2>track of all of that. A classical computer, if you

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<v Speaker 2>try to simulate that, you quickly run out of steam

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<v Speaker 2>and it becomes an exponentially hard problem. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a classical computer is just ill suited to doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>But a quantum computer that's made out of the say

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<v Speaker 2>those sort of particles that can do with that interference naturally,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, has a natural advantage in terms of using

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<v Speaker 2>it to simulate the natural world at its quantum mechanical core.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would I want to do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's the questions like, okay, so that's great,

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<v Speaker 2>But why would I want to do that other than

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I want to understand physics better. Well, this idea

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<v Speaker 2>that I want to understand how material behaves is a

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<v Speaker 2>very good example. If I'm building an electrical circuit, or

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<v Speaker 2>I'm building a new battery, or I'm building a different

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<v Speaker 2>energy process inside of a material or energy storage device,

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of times that depends on what the electrons

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<v Speaker 2>are doing. If I want to understand is there something

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<v Speaker 2>unique when I describe them quantum mechanically. Maybe there's special

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<v Speaker 2>properties I'm just totally blind to. So if I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to make a better superconnecting material, something that can carry

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<v Speaker 2>a electricity with no resistance, right, maybe we can have

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<v Speaker 2>magnetically livitated trains. Maybe you can have you know, really

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<v Speaker 2>efficient electrical circuits that don't dissipate any energy. All of

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<v Speaker 2>these things. Then I would have to use a quantic

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<v Speaker 2>computer to model that behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>And you said there's some maybe potential applications in chemistry

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<v Speaker 1>and biology.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, if I think about what is going

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<v Speaker 2>on when I have a chemical reaction, usually it comes

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<v Speaker 2>down to the electrons, and I need to understand what

0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:27.199
<v Speaker 2>they're doing in order to understand, you know, whether this

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<v Speaker 2>chemical reaction is going to be efficient or not, or

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<v Speaker 2>if I want to describe it with chemical accuracy so

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<v Speaker 2>I can use it to, you know, do some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of industrial chemical process. The biological application, it's like, if

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know how molecules are biologically relevant molecules

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<v Speaker 2>lined together, then potentially I need to know more information

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<v Speaker 2>about the electronic behavior in these molecules. If I wanted

0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:51.399
<v Speaker 2>to do that without having approximation or with much higher accuracy.

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<v Speaker 2>Then a quantic computer would be potentially more capable.

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<v Speaker 1>There we might be able to predict better how a

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine will work, or whether a certain chemical into this

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<v Speaker 1>in your body will.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, we don't have that sort of level of specificity.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we'd love too. People are proposing techniques, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's the right idea, by the devil's in the details.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, you have people saying, well, look, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think even today there's I won't call them skeptics,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a lot of people that are saying, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I can keep improving my classical algorithms, and whether you

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<v Speaker 2>can really gain advantage from the quantum simulations is as

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<v Speaker 2>a practical question. And maybe we don't have as clear

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<v Speaker 2>an example or as clear a win when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to how quantum computers will will do better or be

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<v Speaker 2>more efficient, or be able to do the calculations fast

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<v Speaker 2>or even do them ones that the classical computers can't do.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think there's definitely something there. It's just that

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<v Speaker 2>we still have to work on the quantum algorithms. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not as clear cut I would say.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are the two main applications or uses for

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<v Speaker 1>quantum computers. One is in breaking encryption using a special

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<v Speaker 1>algorithm called face estimation that only works in a quantum computer,

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<v Speaker 1>and the other is to simulate nature, because nature is,

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<v Speaker 1>after all, quantum at its core, and so scientists think

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<v Speaker 1>that quantum computers will let us better simulate how atoms

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<v Speaker 1>and electrons interact, so that we can design better materials,

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<v Speaker 1>better semiconductors, and maybe better medicines. Now, I said so far,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is all still very new, and there might

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<v Speaker 1>be other classes of problems like the encryption problem, where

0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:29.280
<v Speaker 1>quantum computers are just fundamentally and exponentially better at solving,

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<v Speaker 1>but nobody knows for sure. Of course, it's all hinges

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<v Speaker 1>on whether or not we can actually make quantum computers

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<v Speaker 1>at the level that they would actually be useful and

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<v Speaker 1>most important, reliable. So now we're going to go actually

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<v Speaker 1>see these quantum computers that Oscar is building, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell us why they're hard to make and

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<v Speaker 1>why they're so prone to making errors. But first let's

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<v Speaker 1>take out quick break. You're listening to science stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. Well, I heard you have a quantum computer

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<v Speaker 1>in your basement. Well, not in my.

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<v Speaker 2>Basement, but in my my laboratory. Yeah here, can we

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<v Speaker 2>go see it? We can?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, let's get see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you want to do that now?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so where are we going?

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<v Speaker 2>Just the next door. We don't actually even have to

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<v Speaker 2>go down into the basement, into the basement, No, we

0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:25.479
<v Speaker 2>can the basement.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounding is more yeahd scientists exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's so all these labs have different variants of

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:37.240
<v Speaker 2>quantic computers that we're testing. Multiple quantum computers here, yeah, yeah,

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:41.639
<v Speaker 2>not just one. So there's small scale quantum computers, but

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 2>the largest ones are you know, ones at Amazon or

0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Google or IBM or you know some of the other

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:50.600
<v Speaker 2>startup companies. These get to be maybe a factor of

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<v Speaker 2>ten times larger than the ones I'll show you. Okay, okay,

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 2>so this gives you an idea all of these control electronics,

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:01.520
<v Speaker 2>right is to use to an about twenty of these

0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:02.240
<v Speaker 2>quantum bits.

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>There's twenty quantum twenty particle made up of twenty quantum

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 1>particles correct.

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Right, which we are manipulating as quantum bits, and that

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:15.200
<v Speaker 2>circuit lies down inside of this special refrigerator.

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So if you've ever seen or if you google

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 1>a picture of a quantum computer, most likely what you

0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 1>see is something that looks like an upside down metal

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 1>wedding cake with circular tears or platforms that get smaller

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and smaller as they hang down from the ceiling. That

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:39.679
<v Speaker 1>is basically a super intense refrigerator. The whole purpose of

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:41.840
<v Speaker 1>it is to get the tip of that upside down

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 1>cake really really, really cold.

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:49.680
<v Speaker 2>And this refrigerator is under vacuum, under high vacuum. It's

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 2>a temperature which is about ten million degrees above apsoute zero.

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Ten million degrees.

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<v Speaker 2>So to give you an idea, so if I go

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<v Speaker 2>to the deepest part of space, it's a few degrees calvin,

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<v Speaker 2>a few degrees about that food and zero the coldest

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 2>darkest parts of outer space or that universe. But this

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 2>thing's about thirty times colder than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Even WHOA, So would you say that some of the

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<v Speaker 1>coldest places in the whole universe?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean no, I mean you can get and there's

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:19.160
<v Speaker 2>people that do this for a living that make really

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 2>cold things. But this is among the very very coldest things. Okay, yeah,

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 2>but this is extremely cold.

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:26.119
<v Speaker 1>What does it need to be cold?

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Because even the lights, even if we turned all the

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 2>lights off, even just the fact that the room's hot.

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 2>It's room temperature, but it radiates radiation, and that radiation

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.640
<v Speaker 2>would completely destroy the information in the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit I see. So we have to get it really dark.

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 2>We have to make sure that there's not any of

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 2>this thermal energy that's making it into the circuit, otherwise

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 2>it'll destroy the manipulation of those count particles. And so

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 2>it has to be as isolated as we can from

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:53.879
<v Speaker 2>the environment. We would ideally seal it off from everything,

0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 2>so it would be like zero temperature and there would

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:58.879
<v Speaker 2>be nothing coming in other than what we want to

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:01.239
<v Speaker 2>send to it to control it. And then you can

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:02.880
<v Speaker 2>see there's all of these cables.

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Each of these feeds.

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<v Speaker 2>Into a microwave cable that can be used to control

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 2>individual quantum bits or quantum particles on the circuit.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm looking at is a room full of

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Speaker 1>electronics and cables, and in the center is a massive

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 1>structure with two suspended eye beams, and hanging from those

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>beams is the upside down wedding cake I mentioned before,

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>which in this case is sealed inside a really thick

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 1>metal cylinder, and inside that cylinder, at the very tip

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 1>of the wedding cake cool to almost the coldest anything

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 1>can be in the whole universe. Is a little chip

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<v Speaker 1>with a quantum computer. Well, what's in there? So describeting

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>what's inside the core of it? Is it like a

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:49.120
<v Speaker 1>little chip? Yeah?

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:53.199
<v Speaker 2>Like we shit, Okay, it's what's called a superconnecting quantum circuit.

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 2>So it uses little metal traces on a silicon wafer

0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 2>that we pattern on the surface, and when you get

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 2>them cold enough, they become superconnecting, which means they can

0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 2>carry electrical currents without any energy dissipation. Okay, And it

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 2>turns out that you can form these sort of quantum

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:12.119
<v Speaker 2>particles like these atoms where the current is circulating in

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 2>a clockwise way inside of a little tiny ring, or

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 2>it's circulating counterclockwise, and the clockwise could be zero when

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.719
<v Speaker 2>the counterclockwise could be one, And you can get in

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 2>any superposition of these two circulation patterns, and I can

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 2>use that, and I can manipulate what the superposition is,

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 2>and I can have an interact with other circulating currents

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 2>to these little circuits things in our circuit. There are

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 2>a few hundred microns in size, so they might be

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 2>a few times the human hair diameter, so they're pretty

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 2>big relative to conventional transistors. It's made out of many atoms,

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 2>but it behaves like a single atom. Okay, yeah, theod

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 2>way to think about it. So there's like a little

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 2>array of these things, a little array of these things

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 2>on the surface of a microchip, and then each of

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 2>them we can control the current flow. So what are

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 2>called single cubic gates. We bring them together and then

0:27:57.680 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 2>let them interact them bring them apart. So I need

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:01.919
<v Speaker 2>to build to manipulate the single particle, put it in

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.199
<v Speaker 2>any sort of superposition I want. And then you have

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 2>to read out the state of these cubits too. You

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 2>have to know after I do my computation, are you

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 2>in state zero or state one? All right, I have

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 2>to ask that question for all my cubits and that

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 2>will give me the answer I see hearing.

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>So this is called the pulse tube cooler.

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Some oder sounds like if you were ever a kid

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 2>growing up in the eighties and you watch Battlestar Galactica,

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 2>there were the cylons and Battlestar Galactica.

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 1>They walk and they would.

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Have this flashing light and they'd have this sort of

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 2>sound coming from them. This is a similar sort of sound.

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 2>This is a pulse tube cooler and is shooting a

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 2>slug of helium gas onto a cold plate, and then

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>in doing so, when it expands, it can cause cooling.

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>It's analogous to what you do with the regular refrigerator.

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 2>That's the first stage of cooling, though that only gets

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 2>you down to maybe a tenth of the temperature of

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 2>the room. And then if I want to go even

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 2>cooler down and by another factor of ten or one hundred,

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>then you have to use a recirculating gas. In this case,

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 2>it's a dilution fridge that takes mixtures of isotopes of

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 2>helium helium three and helium four, and when they mix

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 2>there's an entapley of reaction and that's what gets you

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 2>down to this lowest temperatures I mentioned.

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>So it's several stages. Something like take a fridge, put

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 1>it inside of another fridge.

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 2>There's actually like sort of three or four stages.

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>If you're inside of a fridge, you have because of

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the fridge, the.

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 2>One fridge is too hot for the other fridge, so

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 2>we have to isolate them, and then we have to

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 2>do that for every successive stage.

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like if I take my freezer and I put

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>it inside of like a restaurant freezer. Just be colder. Yeah, okay, exactly,

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I keep doing that.

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 2>I add, you know another.

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Way, the fridge inside of my fridge have a restaurant freezer.

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 2>And I keep you know, each of them has the

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 2>ability to get colder and colder.

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you have to do it in stages.

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Otherwise, if you try to do a direct shot, it's

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>too much of a thermal load on the system.

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I see. So that's a quantum computer in action. Most

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 1>of what you see when you look at a picture

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>of a quantum computer is all the machinery needed to

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>keep the actual circuit in the near perfect vacuum and

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>as cold as possible, And all of that is to

0:29:57.000 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 1>completely isolate the quantum computer from the outside world. We'll

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>get to why you need to do that with a

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 1>quantum computer, but first I was curious how much a

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 1>quantum computer like this costs. Here's what oscars it. Well,

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 1>there is definitely much bigger than my phone. Yes, exactly.

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 2>That's why I was saying, you're probably not going to

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 2>carry one of these things around.

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>How much is this something like this? If I wanted

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>to build one in my.

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Garage Okay, Well, you know there's always a big difference

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 2>between science money and money that you know, when you're

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 2>talking about conservative products that have large volumes. I remember

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 2>the first time we purchased a big piece of equipment

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 2>from my lab, when I was the first to saculty member.

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 2>It was a bolt the same It was about smaller

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 2>than this thing, so smaller than a few cubic feet,

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 2>but it was more expensive than my.

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>House when I bought it. So there's a big difference.

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 2>But so just keep that in mind. But one of

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 2>these systems today, because it's very specialized, probably costs about

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 2>a million.

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Dollars to set up.

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's another reason why you will probably won't carry

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 2>it around in your pocket any times soon. But it's

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 2>an important actually point to make, is that people will

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 2>build these systems and go to the larger scales. I

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 2>can and spend a lot of money to try to

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 2>do the first demonstrations, but we'll have to shrink them

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 2>and make the more cost effective all the components that

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 2>go in.

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Eventually, it's like we did for any algorithm.

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, and that part will happen. It just requires

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>you to start building these larger systems and for you know,

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 2>the companies that are making the individual components for them

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 2>to have larger volumes so they can drive down costs.

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 2>But where it's particularly challenging right now is actually in

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 2>the control electronics. Like the costs about maybe ten thousand

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 2>dollars a little more than ten thousand dollars just for

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 2>the control used for every single fubit. Wow, and we

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 2>need to go to maybe a million fubits or something.

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 2>So that's like ten billion dollars just in the control

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 2>hardware right if we were to scale out what we

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 2>have today, So it's very costly to imagine doing that,

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 2>so right now, yeah, but then we'll get better. We'll

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 2>do custom silicon chips, where the costs are in the

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 2>scale of the control electronics is much more efficient, so

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 2>we'll do what are called ASEX or custom circuits that'll

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 2>drive down costs tremendously. But yeah, that that has to happen,

0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 2>but it just you know, it's not we're not quite

0:31:59.400 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 2>there yet.

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 1>So there you have it. You can build a quantum

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>computer in your garage right now for about a million dollars,

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 1>although for that money right now you could only put

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>about twenty cubits on it, which is about as sophisticated

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>as an abacus, although this case would be a quantum ebicus. Right.

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>The last thing we'll talk about is why quantum computers

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>are so hard to make. If they can break any

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>encryption on the planet or potentially let us simulate new

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>chemicals and materials, why haven't we done it? What is

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>so hard about making a quantum computer? Here's Oscar explaining it.

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Probably the thing that makes it most difficult, and maybe

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 2>it's the most relevant to talk about, is that let's

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 2>say you want to do a computation with a quantum computer,

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 2>and you want to describe it by a certain number

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 2>of particles, and you want to use those particles to

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 2>do your quantum simulation. Then you need to be able

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 2>to control those particles, to manipulate them to do the

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 2>computation you want. But if those particles interact with the environment,

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 2>then part of the information that you wanted to control

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 2>or manipulate will actually evolve and become connected to these

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 2>other particles. And that's the really tricky problem is how

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 2>do I control tiny little quantum particles with my grubby

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 2>little hands, so to speak. So I have to be

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 2>able to send in these control signals to midp and

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 2>manipulate these quantum particles. But I can't let in any

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 2>other parts of the environment at the same time, and

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 2>so it becomes a really hard problem to sort of

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 2>shield the system you're trying to use to do this computation,

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 2>but then also allow yourself these control knobs.

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Is it like a question of purity to some.

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Degree, yes, Like the properties electron have to be just

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 2>that electron, and they interact with other things that you're

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 2>not able to control, you lose the information, all right.

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 1>So the reason that quantum computers are so hard to

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>make and run basically goes back to Schrodinger's cat. Might've

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>heard of this analogy when people are talking about quantum things,

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and the idea is that if I take a cat

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and I put it inside a box, and I also

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>put in the box a quantum particle that might kill

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>the cat, then when I close the box, eventually the

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 1>cat becomes both alive and dead at the same time.

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>And that's because when I close the box, the quantumness

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 1>of that killer particle basically extends to the cat itself. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>a quantum computer is basically like taking a whole bunch

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>of those boxes with cats that are alive and dead

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.320
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, and it tries to do math

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 1>with them. And because all those cats are in that

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 1>magical quantum state of being two different things at the

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>same time, alive and dead, then you can do some

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>really powerful computations with them, like multiply a whole bunch

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>of numbers all at the same time. But as soon

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>as anyone takes a peek inside one of those boxes,

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>then the whole thing collapses. As soon as you open

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 1>one box and you see whether the cat is alive

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 1>or dead, then that box loses its quantum magic, and

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>all the other boxes is that are talking to it

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<v Speaker 1>will also lose their quantum magic. So the reason you

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 1>need to build giant refrigerators and keep these computers in

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<v Speaker 1>an almost perfect vacuum with perfect coldness is to protect

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>them from any random bit of motion or energy from

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.800
<v Speaker 1>essentially peeking inside your quantum boxes, because if that happens,

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing collapses and stops working. And this problem

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<v Speaker 1>only gets worse as you make the computers bigger and

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<v Speaker 1>more complicated. But people like Oscar are getting better and

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<v Speaker 1>better at it. Well, that was great, That was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess just the last question, what is the current

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<v Speaker 1>state of the art in quantum computers?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I think that if you can look at

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 2>this song, I would say three axis, So you can

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<v Speaker 2>ask how many physical cubits can I make in control

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<v Speaker 2>right now? Right?

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 1>What's the highest number somebody has been.

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 2>So if you just said I just want to be

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:52.760
<v Speaker 2>able to control this many cubits, it's a few hundred.

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 2>And people have made systems of more than a few thousand,

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 2>but maybe not controlled all of them simultaneously. But people

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 2>have definitely made a few hundred and controlled them. So

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 2>we're getting to that level. And you might say, well, okay,

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 2>put that in context, and if we could control them

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 2>with high enough fidelity and not make errors, we would

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 2>be at the point where we could actually start to

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<v Speaker 2>access and solve problems of practical utility better than we

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 2>think other computers can. Like we could answer some of

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 2>these questions about how electrons interacted materials, like small toy problems,

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 2>but still useful.

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<v Speaker 1>So like if I have a thousand cubits working, Yeah,

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 1>what kinds of passwords can I break? Right now? Yeah?

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 2>So, like the number of bits and an rsa key

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:36.800
<v Speaker 2>is like a few thousand, So if I had a

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 2>few thousand cubits, I could crack RSA.

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 1>A few thousand, and we're at one thousand now. Yeah,

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>so right now we could maybe crack simple passwords.

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, that's right, short short ones that we can

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 2>already do classically, so probably not useful, but we're within

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 2>striking distance. But the bigger problem is that we can't

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 2>do those calculations because our calculations are too air prone.

0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 2>Then we need to add the air correction. Okay, that's

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 2>the other that's the and that's adding redundancy. And so

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 2>really think about this. I need to not have just

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 2>a few thousand physical cubits, but I might need a

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 2>few million, because the redundancy factor is pretty large right now.

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Like if my hardware had no errors, I wouldn't need

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:16.879
<v Speaker 2>to do any air correction, and there's redundancy factors one.

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 2>But I do have errors, and the errors we have

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:22.799
<v Speaker 2>right now require about another factor of thousand overhead. A

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 2>thousand cubits multiply thousands of times, so it would be

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:28.919
<v Speaker 2>a thousand tuns of thousand, which is a million. If

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 2>I need a thousand cubits do computations with I have

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 2>to multiply that by one thousand, and that gives me

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 2>how many physical cubits I need to represent? Oh wow,

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I'm saying we probably needed like a

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 2>million physical cubits. So that's what people are doing right now.

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.240
<v Speaker 2>The fact is that we can actually build and control

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 2>on order a few hundred one thousand cubits is amazing, right,

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 2>that's huge progress.

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Like ten years ago it was zero cubits.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say we became masters of the individual cubit

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:57.439
<v Speaker 2>so to speak. Maybe even in two thousand, we're really

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.479
<v Speaker 2>really good at that. It was very hard to first

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 2>even figure like to control a single cubit. But since

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:05.760
<v Speaker 2>then we've been already growing small cubit systems and improving

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 2>how the interacting in the gates that we can implement.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a recent result where scientists at Google showed

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 2>that their processor would require ten out twenty years for

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 2>a classic computer to simulate what they've done their processor.

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, our own team Amazon, we focused on a

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 2>slightly different hardware implementation that potentially has an ability to

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 2>reduce the hardware overhead by factors on the order five

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 2>to ten, which could be very important. So even though

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't have a practical application. Yet it's clear like

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:38.359
<v Speaker 2>there's a big difference in the power of what these

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 2>things can do. There are a set of problems that

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 2>the classic computers are just not going to be good at,

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 2>and there's going to be a set of things that

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 2>quantic computers can do that classical ones cannot mimic. And

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 2>if you're watching this as a sort of an interested

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 2>techy observer and looking for a turning point or a

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 2>tipping point, I'd be watching for how these air rates

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 2>go down, how efficient air correction is in these sort

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 2>of one hundred two thousand cubit systems over the next

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 2>few years.

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<v Speaker 1>Very cool, Well, thank you so much, Oscar. That was fantastic.

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hope we got into enough of the detail

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 2>where it's understandable enough. It is definitely a difficult subject,

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot of hype around it. Even for me,

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 2>it's very hard to read the news and to decipher

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 2>what is really in advance of what isn't. And I'm

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:20.759
<v Speaker 2>deep in the field, so I can only imagine for

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 2>others that read about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Very cool, right, all right, thanks a lot, yep, And

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<v Speaker 1>that is how a quantum computer works. Thanks for going

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