1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: a m pure normal podcast network. Now get ready for 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: another episode of Shades of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware of the thoughts 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: and opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: opinions only and do not reflect those of I Heart Media, 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast, AM employees of premier networks, 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: or their sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: you to do your own research and discover the subject 10 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: matter for yourself. Hi. I'm Sander Champlain. For almost twenty 11 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: five years, I've been on a journey to prove the 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: existence of life after death. On each episode will discuss 13 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: the reasons we now know that our loved one have 14 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: survived physical death, and so will we. Welcome to Shades 15 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife. John Shied said this, a ship in 16 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: the harbor is safe, but that's not what ships are 17 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: made for. How often do we feel that life is 18 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: really tough? It is, isn't it? I personally have found 19 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: great joy at times, but I think most of life 20 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: has been really difficult. Today I'm excited to say is 21 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: episode number fifty fifty weeks we've been together on Shades 22 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife. And as I took a little walk 23 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: down memory lane of my mind, I look back to 24 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: the day I got the call from Tom dan Heiser, 25 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: who's the producer of Coast to Coast AM, who was 26 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: working with Julie, the president of my Heart Radio, to 27 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: create this show, and they asked me, and I was 28 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: so honored, and I still am. But I realized that 29 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: It's been in my toughest times that I've had these breakthroughs, 30 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: these aha moments, these miraculous things happen, And so the 31 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: thrust I want to say right now is no matter 32 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: how hard your journey is, stick with it, because like 33 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: a rainbow, there's a pot of gold at the end 34 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: of it. And I don't mean financially, I mean as 35 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: a journey of a human being going through the toughest 36 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: times really has the power to set us on our 37 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: soul's adventure. Even when you look back in your life 38 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: in the most difficult times and feel that sense of 39 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: accomplishment after something really tough, you don't get that from 40 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: the easy things. You really don't. And wherever you are 41 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: in life right now, if you are to look back 42 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: and have a reap lay on your life. You two 43 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: would see that the biggest soul growth comes from your 44 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: toughest times. For me, I think back to the mid 45 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: nineties going through a tremendous fear of dying, one where 46 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't sleep at night. I wake up in the 47 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: morning and be the first thing I thought about. And 48 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: where did that seed get planted? I'm not really sure. 49 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: My mom seems to think that. When I worked in 50 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: the nursing homes back when I was fourteen years old, 51 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: I would volunteer and my first jobs actually were around 52 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 1: senior citizens. While I was there, I witnessed a lot 53 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: of people die. There was one lady that gave me 54 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: all of her cookbooks and they she left them to 55 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: me in her will, and so I saw a lot 56 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: of people die. And when we're young, we don't have 57 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: any fear of anything, do we know. I didn't mind 58 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: roller coasters, I didn't mind anything. I would just go 59 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: for it. There was never any fear that something bad 60 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: would happen. But as we get older, things change, and 61 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: perhaps everything just got planted in my subconscious mind about 62 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: life about death and that just all blew up and 63 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: like I said in the mid nineties, having this tremendous fear, 64 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: and I remember the first book that I got was 65 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: the Tibetan Book of Living and Dying, because I knew 66 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: that the Buddhists believed in reincarnation and I wanted to 67 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: know more. The book really helped me. It opened my 68 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: eyes to not only Buddhism, but also other religions. The 69 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: thought of the different things that happened to us in 70 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: the afterlife, and more importantly, things about living life, and 71 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: it left me with the thirst for wanting to know more. 72 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: I grew up Catholic, and although I heard many stories 73 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 1: of why to believe in the afterlife, as having faith 74 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: wasn't good enough for me, it didn't quench that fear, 75 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: and so seeds were planted within yours truly about going 76 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: on this journey to discover proof of the afterlife. Now, 77 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: looking back from where I am today, it is hard 78 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: to go back to those days and really feel all 79 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: those feelings because I think as human beings we get 80 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: used to what we have now. For many of us 81 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: were here today because we have lost someone and although 82 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: they're not lost, they are in heaven and the afterlife. 83 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: That's an expression we use. We've lost them to this life. 84 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: We've lost their body, we've lost the ability to have 85 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: hugs with them and hold their hand. But they're very real, 86 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: very real. You know. When we think of the technology 87 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: we have now, our computers, checking our email, are cell phones, 88 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: it just feels like we've always had them. But think 89 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: about in your own life and going back to those 90 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: days where you had a rotary phone, you know, or 91 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: we had to use a pay phone at a gas 92 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: station if we wanted to make a phone call. I 93 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: still remember when my dad told me about the GPS 94 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: or sat nav as they're called in other parts of 95 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: the world. I couldn't imagine that there was this technology 96 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: that gets us wherever we want to go, that we 97 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: just put in an address and it would talk to 98 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: us and let us know how to get there. You know, 99 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: it was crazy, It was so futuristic. But now we 100 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: have them on our phones and we think nothing of 101 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: asking Alexa or Siri where to go, and she tells 102 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: us how to go to our destination. The impossible becomes possible, 103 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: and it becomes regular. I'd like to read you a 104 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: great quote by Arthur Schopenhauer, All truth passes through three stages. First, 105 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: it is ridiculed, Second it is violently opposed. Third, it 106 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: is accepted as being self evident. So that's where we 107 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: are right now with our technology that we've always had it. 108 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: You know, there's kids being born within the last twenty 109 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: years and they don't know what life was like before 110 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: having cell phones. Can't even imagine. If you're a little 111 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: bit older. I'm in the mid fifties, I can remember 112 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: eight track tapes and cassettes and talking to my parents. 113 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: You know, they remembered when the first television came out 114 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: and how exciting that was. Before that, people were circled 115 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: around a radio. In the world of the afterlife, we 116 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: are going through the first two stages. I think even 117 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: for me, I wouldn't say I'm in the third stage 118 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: accepted as being self evident. I know for some of 119 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: my medium friends that have been mediums for twenty five 120 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: years and over, and they're used to communicating with the 121 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: deceased and giving medium readings all day long. They're used 122 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: to it, so it's all self evident for them. But 123 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: talking to people about the afterlife, I think one of 124 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: the biggest fears we have about sharing is we are 125 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: afraid of being ridiculed. So it's that first stage. Not 126 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: only that is the second stage. It is violently opposed. 127 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: When I first started being on interviews about my book 128 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: We Don't Die, I said yes to anybody who wanted 129 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: to interview me. And I had the true belief that 130 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: what I knew would convince anybody of the afterlife, and 131 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: so I said yes to everyone. So I was very 132 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 1: lucky to be a guest on shows like Coast to 133 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: Coast and some others. However, I remember one show in 134 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: New Zealand reached out to talk to me, and of 135 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: course I said yes. And it took me having to 136 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: wake up at three o'clock in the morning to be 137 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: a guest on this show. And the night before I 138 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: had woken up. I was so excited. I just woke 139 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night and I decided 140 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: to tune into this radio show. I could get it 141 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: on the internet so I could listen. And the radio 142 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: show host had said, tomorrow night, we are going to 143 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: hear from a woman who believes in the afterlife, and 144 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: made some kind of comment about how he was going 145 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: to ridicule me in no way that anybody could convince 146 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: him of the afterlife being real, And in that moment, 147 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: it hit me talk to people that want to listen, 148 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: don't try to push it on others. And to be 149 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: honest with you, did I get on that radio show. 150 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: I did not. I also learned the lesson by having 151 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: a radio show host hang up on me. I thought 152 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: it was an accident while I continued to listen to 153 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: the show. He did hang up on me on purpose 154 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,239 Speaker 1: because he didn't want to listen. I was being ridiculed. 155 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: He said, nobody had any proof of the afterlife. It hurts, 156 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: but for all of us to know that it's a 157 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: normal stage that people ridicule and violently opposed. I know 158 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: in my heart that the science is out there, the 159 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: technology is out there, the people are out there, that 160 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: this conversation is going to shift and people will know 161 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: the afterlife is real. I mean everybody you know. I 162 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: always say this example that years ago people believed the 163 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: Earth was flat, and of course back then we didn't 164 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: have technology and we weren't able to talk to others 165 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: about it as quickly as we do now. But the 166 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: conversation shifted that people know that the Earth is round. 167 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: I know throughout my quest that it's well over seventy 168 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: of the people that openly believe in the afterlife. I 169 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: think it's actually more than that that do. But that 170 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: fear of what people will think actually has a stop 171 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: sharing about it and not tell people about it. I'm 172 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: excited to say that soon, by the beginning of next year, 173 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: we're going to have a documentary film on Sonya and Aldi. 174 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: Sonja is the one who captures pictures and videos from 175 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: people in the afterlife. I'll tell you a little bit 176 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: more about that after the break. I know we discussed 177 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: her on show number one. There's so much more that's 178 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: been happening, but I want to use this episode as 179 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: a milestone number fifty for me and for you. It's 180 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: a journey, it really is. But taking a walk down 181 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: memory lane and knowing some of the things that happened 182 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: to me might help you on your journey as well, 183 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: because wherever you are at this very place as you listen, 184 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of hurt, there's been some tough 185 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: things that have happened, and wouldn't it be great to 186 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: know that everything that's happened up until now is really 187 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: setting your soul up for a magnificent future. So we'll 188 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: be back in just a minute. You're listening to Shades 189 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and Coast 190 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 1: to Coast a M paranormal podcast network. 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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm 202 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: Sander Champlain. We are here on episode fifty. We are rejoicing. 203 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: In fifty episodes, we're going back to the past. We're 204 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: talking about the present and a little bit about the future. 205 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: So just before the break, I was telling you about 206 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: Sonya and Aldi. She's in Brazil and she not only 207 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: has been researching the afterlife for well over thirty years, 208 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: she has been recording electronic voice phenomena in a very 209 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: interesting way. Plus now she's getting videos and pictures from 210 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: the afterlife. So let me explain. When I first knew 211 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: about Sonia was back on my Discovery back I think 212 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: it was two thousand five or two thousand six. I 213 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: went to an afterlife conference hosted by Tom and Lisa Butler, 214 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: who wrote the book There Is No Death and There 215 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: Are No Dead. Their main theme is Electronic Voice Phenomena 216 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: e v P. And they talked about this woman in 217 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: Brazil named Sonya and Aldi who created a very interesting telephone. 218 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: And I was so intrigued. And at that time, Sonya 219 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: would work with parents and she would have a chair 220 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: for a parent, a chair empty for the deceased child, 221 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: and she had a sound gibberish, I'll call it. It's 222 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: the sound of chopped up human voices, and she would 223 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: play that. She would have a parent talk to their 224 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: child as if they are sitting in that chair, and 225 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: when she played it back, instead of hearing chopped up voices, 226 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: they would hear the child's voice answering the questions. So 227 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: to me, I was so intrigued by this, and Sonja 228 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: has only given this away. She has never asked anyone 229 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: for money. It's been a love and passion of hers anyways, 230 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: just incredible. Never did I realize that it was twenty eighteen. 231 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: I think that I actually met Sonja at the Afterlife 232 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: Research and Education Institutes Annual Symposium. I found out that 233 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: she wasn't just recording voices, but now she's been recording pictures. 234 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: And at that point, she would have her camera set 235 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: on television station and that was just showing static. She 236 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: didn't see anything as she was recording it live. But 237 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: when she replayed the video and she went through frame 238 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: by frame, each second you film on your iPhone, say, 239 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: has thirty two frames within it. Well, within those frames 240 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: there would be faces, and not just faces that look 241 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: kind of like a person, but they were pictures that 242 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: actually were a person. As time went on, her technology 243 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: changed and one of her latest experiments is something she 244 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: calls the Milligan project. And she had this dream to 245 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: have four independent projectors all projecting static into a clear, 246 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: really large easter egg mold. She'd go through each second 247 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: of the film into those thirty two different frames within it, 248 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: and lo and behold, there would be faces. As time 249 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: went on, she would work with a parent and film 250 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: it and you not only see the face of the child, 251 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: but in some you would actually see almost like a video. 252 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: You would see them start with just the face and 253 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: then you would see it turn into a smile. Parents 254 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: were blown away. This to me is the number one 255 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: reason we have to believe in the afterlife right now. 256 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: I really wanted my dad to come through so very 257 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: quietly and just to myself, I put in that request 258 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: to Dad, who is in the spirit world, and just said, 259 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: Henry chance, Dad, that you can go to Brazil and 260 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: get your face on one of these images that Sonya produces. 261 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: Every so often, Sonya would send me some pictures of 262 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: unknown people, and there was one that kept coming through 263 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: that really reminded me of my dad close, but not 264 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: a hundred recent until one day she sent a picture 265 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: that had come through and it was my dad. I 266 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: have almost the identical picture. But the picture I have 267 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: is when he was young and healthy and in the 268 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: Air force, and he was looking straight at the camera. 269 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: Her picture of him almost identical, but he wasn't looking 270 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: straight at the camera. He was looking at the side. 271 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: She sent me the two video clip of this clear 272 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: Easter egg with just static and then you can see 273 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: the face transform and then the face disappears. One of 274 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: my dear friends, Robert Lyon, is a film producer, and 275 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: we created a Kickstarter fundraiser plan to do a documentary 276 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: on Sonya. Now we did that a couple of years ago. 277 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: The problem is COVID nineteen hit. So Robert has filmed 278 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: scientists talking about this experiment. He's filmed the parents and 279 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: the pictures of the children as they lived, and the 280 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: pictures that came through through Sonja. And the final part 281 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: was to go to Brazil because to a skeptical mind, 282 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: we're always thinking, is there a way that she's controlling this? 283 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: Is there a way that she's manipulating pictures and making 284 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: this happen. One of the things that really pointed us 285 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: to this being the truth is that this woman only 286 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: gives it away. She lives on a very small income. 287 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: This is her passion. Thankfully, Robert just came back from 288 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: a trip to Brazil and he was by Sonya's side 289 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: doing various experiments, capturing these pictures of loved ones through 290 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: her different experiments that she does. If you'd like to 291 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: see the preview for it, you can go to We 292 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: Don't Diet Films dot com. And just see kind of 293 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: what the work is in progress. And remember I told 294 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: you about that Schopenhauer who about all truth passes through 295 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: three stages. First it's ridiculed. Secondly it's violently opposed. Third 296 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: it's accepted as being self evident. I think about Sonya's 297 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: project and what she's doing as something that young minds 298 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: will see, young minds that know about technology. You may 299 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 1: or may not know what the first cell phone looked like. 300 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: It was this big heavy box and there was a 301 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: cord that was attached to it that you could make 302 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: phone calls, So it wasn't exactly cordless, but it was mobile. 303 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: You could bring it with you and to go from that, 304 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: and then remember the flip phones. And then now we 305 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: hold in our hands something that can get to every 306 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: bit almost of history and information in the universe. We 307 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: hold right in our hand. I believe that when young 308 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: minds can watch Sonya's documentary and see what's being done, 309 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: you know, even old minds too. You know, we only 310 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: get better as we age, don't we, But that people 311 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: will take where she is and they will work on 312 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: it themselves, and in no time we'll go from the 313 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: clunky old cell phones to holding all of universe in 314 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: our hands. And I do believe the same thing will 315 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: happen with the afterlife, and I think it will happen 316 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: in our lives. I really do. More and more is 317 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: happening when you think of how many people believe in 318 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: the afterlife right now, how far technology has gotten, and 319 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: it's only a matter of time. There are people who 320 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: are working on a soul phone right now, and ideally 321 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: same thing. It will be something where we can communicate. 322 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: Just like we have different cell phone providers, we could 323 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: have different soul phone providers. You don't know. One of 324 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: the important things about believing in the afterlife is knowing 325 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: that our loved ones go on. They're happy, they're well, 326 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: they're healthy, they're perfect. They can create their reality very 327 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: much like we have here, but they can do it 328 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: with their minds. We know for ourselves if we take 329 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: a moment to close our eyes and visualize something. If 330 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: you are to visualize your favorite vacation spot, for me, 331 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: it's sitting on a chair and Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, 332 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: brewing a cup of coffee in my room, bringing it down, 333 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: watching the sunrise, watching the sky turn from dark black 334 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: with stars in it to that pinkish color and orange 335 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: and then blue, and I can see the fishing boats 336 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: on the water. I can hear the sounds of people 337 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: setting up their things that they're selling on the beach. 338 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: But I can be there in my mind, and when 339 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: we transition to the other side, we create it in 340 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: our mind. But it is as real as you and 341 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: I are experiencing the world right now. So our loved 342 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: ones are fine, they're happy, they're healthy. There well, they 343 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: live in a different dimension that we do, a different 344 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: vibration where there is no time. Often I get questions 345 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: that people don't receive a sign from their loved one, 346 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: and it's difficult because we all want to. There are 347 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: reasons we don't like. Sometimes our mind is too busy 348 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: and we can brush off a feeling or a thought 349 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: of them or a memory as just our imagination when 350 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: it really could be them. But also in their world, 351 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: in the world of spirit, there is no time. So 352 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: for them, they can see us, but it's just a 353 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: blink of an eye and we'll be there with them, 354 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: so it doesn't occur to them. At many years have passed. 355 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: They can see what we cannot see. They can see 356 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: the bigger picture, and so it's a very hard concept 357 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: for our minds to grasp this idea of no time, 358 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: and I don't think our minds are designed to understand it. 359 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: If you look at life from the quantum level, and 360 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: I'm looking at my hand right now, everything we are 361 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: made up of cells, molecules, and then write down to 362 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: the atoms that make us up, all we are is invisible, 363 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: vibrating energy. It's a very hard thing to grasp. It's 364 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: actually impossible to grasp. And also when we think of 365 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: the never ending universe continually expanding, for every grain of 366 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: sand here on planet Earth, there's a thousand stars like 367 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: our sun, so mind blowing to grasp. And for each 368 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: one of those suns or stars, there's could be planets 369 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: around them. So it said that there could be hundreds 370 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: billions of planets like ours out there. So our mind 371 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: and who we are is not meant to understand the 372 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: big picture. So sit tight. We're going to keep this 373 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: conversation going. And I'm so glad you're here. 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I'm Sandra Champlain and 395 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: we are celebrating episode number fifty taking a walk down 396 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: memory lane, looking at the past, the present, and a 397 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: little bit of the future. So back when I was 398 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: investigating the afterlife, the biggest thing that moved the needle 399 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: for me and gave me con evidence that we go 400 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: on is mental or evidential mediumship. I had flown very 401 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: secretly out to California to take a three day course, 402 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: a retreat in mediumship. The first experience I had, when 403 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know any better, was the instructor told us 404 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,959 Speaker 1: that we weren't really doing a medium reading, that we 405 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: were just to use the power of our imagination just 406 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: for practice and to create someone standing behind our partner. 407 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: So we each had to get into pairs, and I 408 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: didn't know anybody there, and with my eyes closed, I 409 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: invented someone standing behind my partner. And I told this 410 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: lady the story that she had a grandfather. I heard 411 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: the name Yan in my mind. I said, his name 412 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: is Yahn, He's from Denmark. And I told her that 413 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: he was a fisherman in Denmark, that he had a 414 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: big gap between his two front teeth, he had blonde hair, 415 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: blue eyes, and I saw him puffing on a cigarette. 416 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: I just got that feeling that he died of lung cancer. 417 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: I got the feeling it was her mom's father, and 418 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 1: that he never told this lady's mom that he loved her. 419 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: He was just a real tough parent. I opened my 420 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: eyes after telling the lady what I invented in my 421 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: mind's eye, only to see that she was crying. Because 422 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: her grandfather's name was Yahn, he was a fisherman in Denmark. 423 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: He fit the description. He died of lung cancer and 424 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: she had a very loving mom only because her own 425 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: father had never said I love you. So with that, 426 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: I got the bug. You know that this was real, 427 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: that the afterlife was real. The problem that happened to 428 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: me is the next time I tried to do a 429 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: medium reading, I was wrong. There's this phenomena that happens 430 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: when we're afraid, when we doubt, that side of us 431 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: shuts off, that side of us that is tapped into everything. 432 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: Why it worked in the beginning is because I didn't 433 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: know any better. I was told just to use my imagination, 434 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: and I was right. When people work psychically and mediumistically, 435 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: it's done through our imagination. Just as I could picture, 436 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: and you can picture your favorite vacation spot. We can 437 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: allow the spirit world to work with us through our thoughts. 438 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: So for anyone who's feeling that they haven't gotten a 439 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: sign from their loved one, I want you to re 440 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,239 Speaker 1: look at that. Have you had a memory pop up 441 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: into your mind of being with them? Have you thought 442 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: you've smelled their cologne. Have you ever been driving and 443 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: you just felt like your loved one was with you. 444 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: They're all very subtle signs, but they are signs. We 445 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: get so caught up in our own technology that we 446 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: miss them. I'm not alone in this. I spend a 447 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: lot of time thinking about past things, future things. I 448 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: have it to do list every day that I never 449 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: finish everything. It's just impossible. Also, I get carried away 450 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: on Netflix or looking at something on the Internet, or 451 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: maybe a little too much time on Facebook. Yes, I'm 452 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: human too, But it's those times where we can quiet 453 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: our mind and be present and sometimes you're just in 454 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: the zone. You know, when you go driving and you think, 455 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, how did I get from this point 456 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: to this point? I don't even remember. Well, we were 457 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: in that zone, and that zone, that quiet place in 458 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: our mind, is where they come in. Very often I 459 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: am in our Thursday Mediumship class that we hold online 460 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: with the great mediums Philip Dikes and Carrie McLoud and 461 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: in the privacy of the breakout rooms that they do, 462 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: we trust. The agreement is whatever comes into our feeling 463 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: or comes into our imagination, we are going to verbalize 464 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: to the partner we have. I was working with a 465 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: woman and I got this vision of old lady grandmother 466 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: wearing an apron making spaghetti and meatballs. I got the 467 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: image in my mind of Toto from the Wizard of Oz. 468 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: I kept hearing the phrase I'm Italian, but I'm not 469 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: off the boat. So I didn't really know what that means. 470 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: When I opened my eyes and I talked to this woman, 471 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: she said her grandmother indeed was Italian. She knows her 472 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: always from wearing that apron. She loved her spaghetti and meatballs. 473 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 1: She had a dog that looked just like Toto from 474 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: the Wizard of Oz, and she would always say I'm Italian, 475 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm not off the boat. I took an airplane. That 476 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: was her favorite thing to say at parties. So that 477 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: is just a little sense that we have this mediumistic capability. 478 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: But it takes exercising it. It takes learning about it. 479 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: It takes trusting. Our skepticism will shut down that psychic 480 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: and mediumistic faculty that we all have. And it's important 481 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: if you're interested in this to know that if you 482 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: look at a pie as a whole, and that's our 483 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: psychic faculty, that's our soul being able to reach out, 484 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: whether it's done to another person or to somebody in 485 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: the unseen world, and to really trust that the feelings 486 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: and images and voices and information we're getting is really them. 487 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: Mediumship is just a slice of that pie. Instead of 488 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: working with a human being that's still living, we direct 489 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: our attention to the world unseen. It's pretty fascinating, pretty 490 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: fascinating if you want to come on a journey with us. 491 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: We have new students in our classes every month online. 492 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: Where do I want to go next? You know if 493 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: you've been listening that I have also done electronic voice phenomena, 494 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: and that is recording voices from people that no longer 495 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: walk this earth. There's a lot to it. If it's 496 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: something you're interested in, I say go for it. But 497 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: one thing, no matter which way you want to research 498 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: the afterlife is stick with it. I can imagine our 499 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: loved ones and they get somebody who's got a tape 500 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: recorder or is using their telephone or their computer to 501 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: record sounds of say the shower running or rain. They're 502 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: excited to do it, and then they try it once 503 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: and it doesn't work for them, and they give it up. 504 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: Our loved one does not get all the information in 505 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: the universe just because they transition. They don't. There's a 506 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: place called the Halls of Learning that they can go, 507 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: and they can learn things, but they too have to 508 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: practice them. My little grandmother was not technology inclined at all, 509 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: so it would make sense that she may not want 510 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: to get involved and try to figure out how to 511 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: put her voice on my recorder. Somebody like Steve Jobs, 512 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: who invented Apple. Yes he's working with scientists in the 513 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: unseen world, probably with Sonia's experiments down in Brazil, but 514 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: be committed to it. We human beings. When we pass, 515 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: we're still us. We still have our personalities. And so 516 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: if you say you're going to show up on a 517 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: certain date and time to do your experiment with them, 518 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: do it. Don't just say this is a figure of 519 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: my imagination. I'll do it another time. The same thing 520 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: holds true if you are taking time every day to 521 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: quiet your mind and to ask your loved one just 522 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: to move close to you. You can certainly do that 523 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: important to your mind. Pay attention to your breathing and 524 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: slow down and just ask them to step closer. Ask 525 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: them to maybe put a kiss on your cheek or 526 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: on your forehead, or just walk closer to you. See 527 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: if you can feel goose bumps or the hairs on 528 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: your arms stand up. When you can get that subtle 529 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: change of energy. They are willing to work with us. 530 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: They love us, they want us to be happy, they 531 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: want us to live life fully while we're here, and 532 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: they'll be the first ones to greet us when it's 533 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: our time. But electronic voice phenomena is something you may 534 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: want to research and try. That first weekend that I 535 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: spent with Tom and Lisa Butler and in the privacy 536 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: of my own cabin, while I was thinking, I was 537 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: just recording the sound of rain drops and what was 538 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: on it is good night Sandra, good night, good night, 539 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: good night, as I was imagining my aunt and uncle 540 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: and my grandmother and grandfather with me in the room. 541 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: I went on to do thousands of recordings actually, and 542 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: I got to a point where I would work with 543 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: other people again, like Sonja, just giving it away just 544 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: to see if I could really pick up the voices 545 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: of other people. It takes some time to do it because, 546 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: like learning a foreign language, it's a new language of 547 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: trying to listen for voices within the sound of background noise. So, 548 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: for instance, if I was recording rain drops, my ears 549 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: want to really focus on the raindrops. But it's this 550 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: art of setting aside the raindrops and really listening in 551 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: is there anything else there? So I've heard dogs barking. 552 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: One man that I had worked with, his sister was deceased. 553 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: I saw her in my mind's eye with pigtails and 554 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: a big smile and dark hair and freckles, and what 555 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: was recorded was, Hello, Billy. Remember the game we used 556 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: to play? Remember Clue and Clue was a game they 557 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: played together. I remember one lady who her dad passed 558 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: while she was in prison, and she never got to 559 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: apologize for whatever she had done and never got to 560 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: say goodbye on the recording. Was I love you, Dear Drew, 561 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: so easy to talk now easy to breathe, And Dear 562 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: Drew told me that her father had died and he 563 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: had a tracheotomy, and he would use one of those 564 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: devices held up to his throat to talk. Our loved 565 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: ones are alive, my friends, whether or not they've given 566 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: us any big, grandiose sign, they still exist. What probably 567 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: joins us today is that we've all experienced loss and 568 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: we are desperately looking for evidence that they live on. 569 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: They do. And I'll give you every bit that I 570 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: can so that you know that time for a quick break, 571 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: and when we come back, I'm going to talk a 572 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: little bit about tapping into your own inner wisdom and 573 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: your guides that work with you. You're listening to Shades 574 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and Coast 575 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. 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Enjoy your search and have some 585 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: fun at Paranormal dates dot com. Welcome back to Shades 586 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain and we are celebrating 587 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: episode number fifty and it's just a shout out to 588 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: our friends at I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 589 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: AM for making this show possible and a big thank 590 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: you to you, whether this is your first show or 591 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: your fiftieth, thank you for being on the ride with us. 592 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: It is my biggest dream to give you every bit 593 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 1: of information I have about the reality of the afterlife, 594 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: so that you know your loved ones live on, that 595 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: they love you, that you will see them again, but 596 00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: most importantly, that while you're here on this journey called life, 597 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: that you go after your dreams, that you have love. 598 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: Someday you will close your eyes one last time you're 599 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: on Earth, and you're going to open them and you 600 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: will be surrounded by your loved ones cheering you on, 601 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: and you'll realize that we don't die. For the life 602 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: of us. There's just no way even our precious pets 603 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,919 Speaker 1: will be there to join us. One thing that does 604 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: join most of us is experiencing grief. If it is 605 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: your grief in your death of a loved one that 606 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: brought you here today, I'm sending you a giant long 607 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,479 Speaker 1: distance hug. It is a hard thing to go through 608 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: and the only way to the other side of grief 609 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: is to go through it. So they say what you 610 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: resist persists, So when you have moments that you need 611 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: to cry, please do so. Our brain are being is 612 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: readjusting to a reality without our loved one. Love, if 613 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: we can compare it to a drug, is something that 614 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 1: is so addictive in a good way, but unfortunately, when 615 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: our loved one passes, we no longer have that and 616 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: we go through the worst withdrawal period ever. So be 617 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: gentle on yourself. Please take me up on my free 618 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: offer to either read my book with chapter ten about 619 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: grief or listen to my audio book. If you go 620 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: to we Don't Die dot com and you scroll to 621 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: the bottom and you join my email list, it says 622 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: you can read a few chapters of my book. Here's 623 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: the secret, it's the whole book. If you'd rather listen, 624 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: you can go to the store that We Don't Die 625 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: dot com. Scroll down you'll see the audio book, use 626 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: coupon code free f r E. If you can do 627 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: anything like journaling, going outside, getting some sunshine, listen to 628 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: your favorite music, or be with some people, your biology 629 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: needs time to help refuel those neurotransmitters. They're called to 630 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 1: help you be whole and healthy again. Just like a 631 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: car has all kinds of fluids it needs to run, 632 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: we have these different neurotransmitters and they get almost depleted 633 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: when we are grieving, and that's what's responsible for the pain, 634 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: the sadness, the repetitive thoughts about guilt. So I want 635 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about these beings that love 636 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: and support us in the unseen world. We can call 637 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: them our friends, our guides, our loved ones, can even 638 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: be part of them. I don't think it's important to 639 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 1: know exactly who they are, but however they work, they 640 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: can really give us some support in our life. I 641 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: took a course. One of the exercises that we did 642 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: was to slow down, pay attention to our own breathing 643 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: and imagine this divine light that's inside of us, and 644 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: I imagine it in my belly, and know when you 645 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: look at the water and the sun is glistening off 646 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,919 Speaker 1: of it, and it's that really bright white color. Well 647 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: for me, that's what I imagine. And the more I 648 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 1: relax and the more I slow down my breathing, I 649 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: imagine this white glow just grows within me. This is 650 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: that divine spark. This is the divine nature that we 651 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: all have. And I actually imagine it leaving me and 652 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: filling the room. And whether you want to call it 653 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: God or the universe, the title isn't important. But to 654 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: imagine another glow, and I imagine for myself the glow 655 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: like the sun, that it's coming in through my windows, 656 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: and it is just so bright like my bright light, 657 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: and that these two lights joined together, and then they 658 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: merge in that stillness. I just rest. Now. If I 659 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,399 Speaker 1: have a question for them, or if I have some 660 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,479 Speaker 1: topic that i'd like some clarity on, what I will 661 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: do is have a book or my computer in front 662 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: of me, and I'll write down the sentence of whatever 663 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,280 Speaker 1: that may be, whether it's a question or a topic 664 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: that I want to know more about. And the instructors 665 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 1: would always say, in the beginning, it could be Sandra 666 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: and one percent the unseen world, And in time and 667 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 1: in practice, the words you'll find will start giving you 668 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: goose bumps, you'll realize that you're not the one that 669 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: wrote them. And so for me, I write a statement 670 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: or a question or a topic, and then I do 671 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 1: this practice of just slowing down, the deep breathing, imagining 672 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: my light and then the light from the outside, imagine 673 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: them merging together. And then either opening my computer and 674 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,479 Speaker 1: having my fingers on the keyboard or with a pen 675 00:44:55,640 --> 00:45:00,439 Speaker 1: in hand. Not in a place of thinking, but more 676 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: in a place of just allowing. I would let my 677 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: hand write the words that come into my mind. They 678 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: might come one by one, but the idea is you're 679 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 1: not looking for them, you just allow them to come. 680 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: And what I want to do is just read to 681 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: you a couple of things that I had done when 682 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 1: I was in this class. So this first example is 683 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: one of the ones that I had done with no instruction. 684 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: There wasn't any question asked. The art of man resides 685 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 1: within him. Storms of torrent, winds arise, ocean waves of glory, 686 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: No fear, no doubt. Here, the screams of fury, the 687 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:48,240 Speaker 1: wrath of man is all yes. The smith of wooden bulls, 688 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: the wreck of ships from old steady in thy path. 689 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: As you go into the waters of your soul. The 690 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: direction is unknown to you, dear girl, but us we 691 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,320 Speaker 1: know the wind the seas, how to set your sail. 692 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,720 Speaker 1: Your job is to keep the ship afloat and follow 693 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:13,280 Speaker 1: our command. We are trained officers and a mighty crew. 694 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: We have the course plotted out. We are invisible, yet 695 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: wise to the open seas. There is a light of 696 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: God that leads our path. We continue together and do 697 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: not worry about the storms. You, my dear, are our 698 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: body and our voice here on earth. You are mightier 699 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 1: than you've ever known, and you are not alone. If 700 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: you ever knew just how many of us there are 701 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:48,240 Speaker 1: with you at every moment, you would never be fearful again. 702 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: We love you, dear girl. When I wrote that, I 703 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 1: literally just wrote down the words that came into my mind, 704 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 1: and it was only after by reading it that I 705 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: saw the full picture. And they are very profound words. 706 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,280 Speaker 1: In the beginning, it seems a little sketchy, a little random, 707 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: but I just trusted, and the more I just continued 708 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: on my deep breaths, the more that flowed. So I'd 709 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: like to read one more to you. This was an 710 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: exercise that we had done with a partner the partner 711 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: had to write down a question, and I wasn't allowed 712 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: to see the question. So I did the same thing, 713 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 1: blended my light with the divine light, and only to 714 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: find out that the question that the person had written 715 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: down was what is the meaning of life? This is 716 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: what came to my mind in the words I wrote. 717 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,919 Speaker 1: Night and day are two sides to one thing. As 718 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 1: a coin has two sides, The magic within each and 719 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: every human is there's to be too discovered and savored. 720 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 1: Like the coin, when you look at it there is 721 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: one meaning. Flip it over and you see something entirely different, 722 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 1: which is right? Which is wrong? To see only one 723 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: side of a coin, it is easy to have an opinion. 724 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: In fact, you think it is the truth. The person 725 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 1: seeing the other side of the coin sees something completely different, 726 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: which becomes their truth. Of course, the answer is to 727 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: realize that it is only when you recognize that there 728 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: is a coin you are viewing can you see the 729 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: two sides and the importance of the two sides. You 730 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 1: can feel the compassion for the viewers, knowing they may 731 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,240 Speaker 1: be simply ignorant of the coin. In total, The answer 732 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: does not lie within to the question. It is the 733 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 1: viewer that enjoys life and gets to discover that for 734 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,360 Speaker 1: him or herself. As life progresses, you see and hold 735 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: many coins from many places. The coins represent your situations, difficulties, opportunities, learnings, 736 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,760 Speaker 1: and people. To live your life looking from each side 737 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,240 Speaker 1: of the coin, and being caring to see the views 738 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: of yourself and others, to see the situations from the 739 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 1: views and emotions and growth from each side of the coin. 740 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 1: Then to lift yourself up and realize that you are 741 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: not the viewer, but you realize that you now possess 742 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 1: a large bag of coins. These coins, those learnings are 743 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 1: what is important to your soul, My friend, you come 744 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: to earth with an empty purse. At the end, you 745 00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: depart with the perfect amount of coins for your earthly life. Life. 746 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: That growth and wisdom is your purpose for life. Enjoy 747 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: it and don't be so fast to judge others, as 748 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 1: they too have a bag of coins to fill. So 749 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: this is the end of the episode number fifty. I 750 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: hope you've enjoyed it. I hope it's left some spark 751 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: within you to tap into your divine nature, tap into 752 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: your friends in the unseen world. And was that, my 753 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,479 Speaker 1: guides speaking? Was it my own soul. Who knows? Did 754 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 1: both of these readings make a difference in my life? Absolutely? 755 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 1: If I can do it, so can you. But it 756 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: starts with a quiet mind. I want to remind you 757 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: that our home base is we Don't Die dot com 758 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: and there's so much going on, including our free Sunday 759 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 1: gatherings with a mediumship demonstration and plenty of weekly courses. 760 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm here to support you. I'm here for you, and 761 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: please take me up on my free offers. I'm Sanders 762 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 1: Champlain and a big thank you. You've been listening to 763 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: Shades of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and 764 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network and if you 765 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,399 Speaker 1: like this episode of Shades of the Afterlife, wait until 766 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 1: you hear the next one. Thank you for listening to 767 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a m 768 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 1: paranormal podcast network.