WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: How Maglev Trains Work

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<v Speaker 1>Hello friends, It's me Josh and for this week's s

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<v Speaker 1>Y s K Selects, I've chosen a super cool episode

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<v Speaker 1>that has it all engineering, strange, physics, elon musk. What

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<v Speaker 1>else do you want? What more could you ask for? Also,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I'm pretty sure that the contest we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about in the listener mail is no longer around,

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<v Speaker 1>since it's many, many years old. At any rate, enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>this episode about the future of transportation. Welcome to Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>You Should Know, a production of I Heart Radios How

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's Charles W Chuck Chuckers, Brian Yeah, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is Oh is that where you're going with? Sure? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my bus right into CC writer all the style. How

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<v Speaker 1>would going with the Muppet Show? Oh? Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>time we put on makeup? Yeah, what was that somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>giant stomach? Something like? What was that? It's weird? That

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<v Speaker 1>was crazy. That couldn't have been Jerry's stomach. There's no way,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, what's chuck? Yes? Uh, you remember our Magnet podcast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've personally thought it was a great episode because we

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<v Speaker 1>explained how magnets work. Yeah, it was just good, tough

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<v Speaker 1>but good. Yeah, it was tough, but it was also

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<v Speaker 1>kind of um. It was one of those ones where

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, okay, that explains pretty much everything about magnets,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that I've used before in my life, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of took for granted some people think

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<v Speaker 1>that they're magic, but we kind of said, this is

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<v Speaker 1>how they work. I liked it. So, um, I liked

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<v Speaker 1>this EPI, this um article in theory, the one we're

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<v Speaker 1>about to do a show on. Yeah, yeah, about Maglev trains. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we did a video on Maglev trains. Remember that one

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<v Speaker 1>of our one of our interstitial shorts was on mag

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<v Speaker 1>left trains, do we Yeah, I remember doing the quantum

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<v Speaker 1>levitation was that it? Are you sure? Yeah? Because that's

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<v Speaker 1>the only way I knew about any of this was

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we had talked about it before. Well

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<v Speaker 1>what did we talk about, uh, maglob you know the

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<v Speaker 1>basic principle in one minute behind magnetic levitation. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much what we're gonna do here, Yeah, except slightly longer. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So um that was my intro but intro and we

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<v Speaker 1>should say also, um, everyone, it is next to impossible

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<v Speaker 1>to get up to the minute up to the year

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<v Speaker 1>information about what maglev trains are in operation, what are

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<v Speaker 1>still planned, what's still going on. So it is possible

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<v Speaker 1>we may get that part a little incorrect, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to try our best to be as accurate as possible. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason why is because magnetic levitation to power

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<v Speaker 1>a train so new. Well, it's actually not that new,

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<v Speaker 1>because they've been doing it for a while and well

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<v Speaker 1>start it was proposed ever since Tesla started noticing what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on in the late nineteenth century. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>so new in this regard as far as super fast

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<v Speaker 1>speed trains powered by magnets transporting lots of people over distances,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe great distances. That is so new, and there's so

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<v Speaker 1>a few different technologies that it is kind of hard

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<v Speaker 1>to keep track on which one is in the forefront,

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<v Speaker 1>which ones are being funded because the stuff is expensive,

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<v Speaker 1>it is it's hard to get funding, especially here in

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<v Speaker 1>the States. Yeah, and if you go on, if you

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<v Speaker 1>just type mag LEVI into Google or your favorite search

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<v Speaker 1>engine UM or Duck duck go, if you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of watching who's watching you? Oh, is that a

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<v Speaker 1>like a secret? It's like an anonymous search engine okay. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you will find there's projects all over the United States

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<v Speaker 1>and all of them are like, we're shove already, We're

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go. Just give us some money. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting any money because the construction costs are so

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<v Speaker 1>enormous because with maglev trains you can't use existing railways.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all new. And uh, I saw one quote and

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<v Speaker 1>again who knows how recent this is, but fifty million

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<v Speaker 1>euros per mile. I can believe this is what the

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<v Speaker 1>German Consortium is quoting. The thing is is, once you

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<v Speaker 1>get it built, maintenance is not bad. Yeah, not bad

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<v Speaker 1>at all, because there's not a lot of wear and

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<v Speaker 1>tear on it. As you'll see no friction baby. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you do look into maglev, you will see

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<v Speaker 1>that it is very much like the the transportation technology

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<v Speaker 1>of the future that's going on today. Um, especially after

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<v Speaker 1>looking into Elon Musk's um T hyper loop thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>heard of that. So basically Elon Musk, who is like

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<v Speaker 1>our good friend, uh, super rich guy, right, he basically

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<v Speaker 1>just jotted down this idea on a cocktail napkin and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden it's like the new thing. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a an enclosed tube system that just you put

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<v Speaker 1>in a little car or whatever that seats twelve people

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<v Speaker 1>or something comfortably and you suck all the air out

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<v Speaker 1>of it no resistance, so you can go really fast. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it goes about seven a little under the

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<v Speaker 1>speed of sound, so you can get from the west

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<v Speaker 1>coast to the east coast or vice versa very very fast.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is, the construction costs for this or just preposterous.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it can come along or come down a

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<v Speaker 1>little more, then it will give Maglev a run for

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<v Speaker 1>its money. But if it, if Maglev can start to

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of get some traction and get some line going,

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<v Speaker 1>it will be the the movement of the future for

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<v Speaker 1>at least a decade or two. Yeah, I saw where

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<v Speaker 1>they're proposing both in the future Maglev trains that operate

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<v Speaker 1>inside vacuum tubes as fast as two thousand miles an

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<v Speaker 1>hour as crazy. Right now they're breaking records like three

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<v Speaker 1>miles an hour plus what's the fastest right now? The

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<v Speaker 1>So apparently this is kind of mind boggling because Maglev

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<v Speaker 1>as again we realize everybody, we haven't explained what Maglev

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<v Speaker 1>is talking here, but um, Maglev, the the great advantage

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<v Speaker 1>it has is that it's supposedly goes faster than the

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<v Speaker 1>normal steel wheel train. Apparently a TGV train, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a steel wheel train. UM in Europe, they they beat

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<v Speaker 1>a maglev land speed really that was held by the

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese Maglev of about three hundred and fifty one miles

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<v Speaker 1>an hour. I think it went like three sixty. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't if i'd feel safe. Yeah, I can imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was reading a quote from a Maglev

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<v Speaker 1>rider and they were saying, like, you can tell you're

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<v Speaker 1>going really fast, like on the bullet train. He was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be so disappointed because she's taught me how to

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<v Speaker 1>say it in Japanese so many times a night. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to BUTCHERP. But the bullet train it goes

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<v Speaker 1>pretty fast, like hundred fifty miles an hour or something,

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<v Speaker 1>but it just looks like everything's a blur. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you're going fast. Apparently in a maglev it

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<v Speaker 1>goes fast enough to wear like you feel like, holy cow,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going three d and fifty miles an hour. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>our very unparent company did a show World's Fastest Trains,

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<v Speaker 1>and I watched the maglev segment in the dude. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the front room with the driver and

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, all right, we're going three hundred miles

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<v Speaker 1>an hour now, and it's hard to tell on the TV.

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<v Speaker 1>You know exactly how fast you're going, because I looked

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, well, then you know, it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like about a hundred to me. But um, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think being on the train and I think the key

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<v Speaker 1>to not feeling two or it is obviously you're not

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<v Speaker 1>being shot out like a bullet. You're you're ramping up

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<v Speaker 1>to that speed, so that helps. Plus if you dressed

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<v Speaker 1>normally for your train ride, you'll feel less weird too,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. Um. Also, hold on one more thing, um

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<v Speaker 1>that we're talking very high speeds. That's the that's the

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<v Speaker 1>speed record of a maglev. But they're averaging like to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty or more, which means if you, if you get

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<v Speaker 1>these things built, you're going to expand the range of

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<v Speaker 1>where people can live and commute and go to work

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<v Speaker 1>every day tremendously. Um. So there's a lot of value

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<v Speaker 1>in creating these mag levs. Right are we there yet? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>before we do that, let's just might as well do

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<v Speaker 1>a message break now, huh. I think it's a good time,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So now can we get down to brass tacks. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>let's okay. Um, this is kind of confusing because I

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<v Speaker 1>read a paper in night, I think, where this guy

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<v Speaker 1>was saying, like, there's a lot of people calling all

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<v Speaker 1>these different technologies maglev. This is all very early stage

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<v Speaker 1>proposal hadn't been proven yet, but he was saying, there's

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<v Speaker 1>at least seven different kinds of technology here that everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>calling maglev that are different enough that it doesn't They're

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<v Speaker 1>just different. But for the purposes of this podcast, we

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<v Speaker 1>can get it with maglev, but we have to point

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<v Speaker 1>out that there are some really different systems that are

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<v Speaker 1>in use in being proposed right now, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them have to do with the suspension systems. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think what's going on now? There are three pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much leading competing systems, right. Yeah, because we should say, chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>A maglev train is a train that uses magnets to

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<v Speaker 1>float above a track by either a half a centimeter too.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw one that floats up to a foot off

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<v Speaker 1>the track, and that's a little scary. It seems a

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<v Speaker 1>little scary, but apparently the higher you go, and that

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<v Speaker 1>that high end of the range, the more stable it is. Alright, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but so the the train is literally not touching the

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<v Speaker 1>tracks and it floats along. And the reason that's why

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<v Speaker 1>it can go so fast is because there's no friction,

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<v Speaker 1>no friction, The only resistance is air. And they're super

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<v Speaker 1>sleek of course, so even the error is cut down. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's go. Let's go to Germany first, because they

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<v Speaker 1>have a system, uh, trans Rapid. It's called the actually

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<v Speaker 1>company is called trans Rapid International. There's also a trans

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<v Speaker 1>Rapid USA. Now I think USA, that's right. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>the German version is electro magnetic suspension. And the way

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<v Speaker 1>that the guy on the Discovery Channel show described it

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<v Speaker 1>was that electro magnets, Well, when you use electro magnets,

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<v Speaker 1>they're only um magnetize when there's a power source, when

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<v Speaker 1>there's electricity running through exactly. So that's important to remember

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<v Speaker 1>it is and we'll point out why later because in

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<v Speaker 1>the German system, uh, the e m S system, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all about attraction. It's not repelled magnets repelling each other.

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<v Speaker 1>It's magnets that are attracted to each other. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that they float is they're basically switching it on

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<v Speaker 1>and off, pulsing the electromatic magnets so fast that it

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<v Speaker 1>creates that hovering attraction. Okay, so that's the German version,

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<v Speaker 1>so um okay. And apparently this German version, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they do use repulsive magnets, but on the sides for

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<v Speaker 1>the guidance magnets. So to make it hover, they're turning

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<v Speaker 1>it on an awful lot. So it wants to stick

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<v Speaker 1>but no, but stick but no. And there's not a

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<v Speaker 1>dude on a switch doing it really fast. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>programmed to pull. Right. They have computers handling um. And

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<v Speaker 1>then so this is the the suspension system you're talking about, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the electro magnetic suspension. And the word suspension is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of easily overlooked, but in this case we're literally talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how the train is suspended in mid air above

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<v Speaker 1>the track in this case, and with the e M

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<v Speaker 1>S it's about I think, uh, half a centimeter to

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<v Speaker 1>a centimeter. It's it's very close to the to the track,

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<v Speaker 1>and they use the electro magnets to attract and they

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<v Speaker 1>use the guidance magnets, which are magnets installed on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of the train, uh that are along the side

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<v Speaker 1>of the track to repel magnets along the side of

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<v Speaker 1>the track to keep the train from bumping into the

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<v Speaker 1>guide rails. But the it requires a um UH computer

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<v Speaker 1>system that constantly make adjustments to the current that's going

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<v Speaker 1>through these electro magnets to either um to either attract

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<v Speaker 1>the train to make it float or to repel it

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<v Speaker 1>from the sides to adjust it to make sure it

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<v Speaker 1>never bumps into the rails or the track, because if

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<v Speaker 1>you're going fifty miles an hour and your train scuffs

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<v Speaker 1>the track, you're in big trouble or big trouble. One

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of this UH the German system is that you

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<v Speaker 1>only need the power on for the section of track

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<v Speaker 1>that you're using at the time, So they literally will

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<v Speaker 1>turn on a section of track, the train goes over it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they'll turn it back off. Right, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>very like economically fuel will not fuel efficient because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not fuel right, and that's the power efficient right. And

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't use fossil fuels in the sense that a

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<v Speaker 1>normal train does, although if you go far enough down

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<v Speaker 1>the line, that electricity has to come from somewhere, so

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately it is coming from fossil fuels. But the efficiency.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuel efficiency is incredible compared to you know, a normal

0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.240
<v Speaker 1>train that burns cossal fuels just to move right, the

0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:02.000
<v Speaker 1>guy's shoveling coal into a fire. Yeah, I should say so.

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<v Speaker 1>My understanding of the delivery of electricity to the track

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<v Speaker 1>is the same for both suspension systems that you propel

0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:16.160
<v Speaker 1>like that. So the whole track is made of electro magnets, right,

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<v Speaker 1>come on both systems, and you're just sending electricity to

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<v Speaker 1>the electromagnets that are immediately in front of and immediately

0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:30.280
<v Speaker 1>behind the train immediately under. Yeah, because you need it.

0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:31.680
<v Speaker 1>You need to float the train, then you need to

0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.840
<v Speaker 1>propel it, right, And the way you're propelling it is

0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.720
<v Speaker 1>the magnets that are just ahead of the train are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be positive, and so that's going to attract

0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.280
<v Speaker 1>the train, meaning it's gonna pull it forward. And then

0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the the magnets behind it are going to be charged

0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.560
<v Speaker 1>so that they're negative and they're going to repel the

0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.760
<v Speaker 1>train push it. So in the front, the magnets are

0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.240
<v Speaker 1>pulling it in the in the back, the magnets are

0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.880
<v Speaker 1>pushing it. And again remember there's no friction here, it's

0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.840
<v Speaker 1>just air, so it doesn't take a whole lot to

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<v Speaker 1>make this train go really really fast, just using magnets. Yeah,

0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and they in two thousand two debuted commercially in Shanghai, China,

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty short run transporting people um from airport to airport,

0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:20.240
<v Speaker 1>basically um at a speed it speeds over two fifty

0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.920
<v Speaker 1>miles an hour. So I read that the journey the

0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:24.720
<v Speaker 1>nineteen mile journey. Now it takes about seven and a

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<v Speaker 1>half minutes as opposed to about an hour in a cab,

0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:32.160
<v Speaker 1>and they were going to expand it, but that was

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<v Speaker 1>halted in two thousand eight over radiation fears by people.

0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:42.280
<v Speaker 1>And now it's being proposed as an underground system, like

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<v Speaker 1>to go underground to halt those fears. But in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand ten, another high speed train in the area was

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<v Speaker 1>a non maglev system opened, so they basically said, well,

0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:55.000
<v Speaker 1>we probably won't do this. Uh, we probably won't extend

0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the Shanghai line now, So yeah, I heard it's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>on hold, but I didn't hear that they decide that

0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:04.320
<v Speaker 1>they weren't going to do it. Well, the regular bullet

0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.280
<v Speaker 1>train popped up and they're like, well, now that we

0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.480
<v Speaker 1>have that, I guess we don't need the mag left. Well, oh, well,

0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:16.160
<v Speaker 1>so Japan's got the other, um big rival system. Uh

0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:18.920
<v Speaker 1>so the propulsion systems are the same. You use magnets

0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.080
<v Speaker 1>ahead of the train and behind the train to attract

0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.520
<v Speaker 1>or repell it right to push it forward, I believe

0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:27.280
<v Speaker 1>so so um, the suspension systems are what differ. In

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<v Speaker 1>Germany you're using magnets to um repel it, right, to

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<v Speaker 1>attract it, to attract it. In Japan you're using something

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<v Speaker 1>called the Meisner effect. So basically, chuck. The Meisner effect

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<v Speaker 1>is where you take a super cooled superconductor, right, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I think like liquid helium temperature, which is very very cold,

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<v Speaker 1>and you put it in a magnetic field. The magnetic

0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.800
<v Speaker 1>field basically hugs it. It goes around it rather than

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<v Speaker 1>through it. Okay, yes, um, so when you do at

0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the field actually levitates the thing. So if you take

0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:09.960
<v Speaker 1>enough superconductors that are at the right temperature and you

0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:13.920
<v Speaker 1>put them in the presence of a magnetic field, a

0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:18.639
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of magnets, say on a train, the the

0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:24.679
<v Speaker 1>magnet will float, it will levitate, and that's the electrodynamic

0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:28.399
<v Speaker 1>suspension that the Japanese are using. So basically you have

0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:32.160
<v Speaker 1>a tunnel, a magnetic field tunnel that these things are

0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.840
<v Speaker 1>traveling through, which means that there they don't they don't

0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:38.360
<v Speaker 1>need any extra magnets on the sides, or they don't

0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.959
<v Speaker 1>need any on the bottom or extra magnets on the bottom.

0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:45.400
<v Speaker 1>It's just going to stay put within this bent magnetic

0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.959
<v Speaker 1>field that's warped to wrap around it. It's never going

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<v Speaker 1>to drop, and it's totally stable, which is the big

0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.240
<v Speaker 1>that's a big advantage from what I understand of the

0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Japanese system over the German system. The stability doesn't require

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of pewters to constantly adjust it, and it

0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.480
<v Speaker 1>is just inherently more stable because it's not just being

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<v Speaker 1>held up from the bottom and then a little on

0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the sides. It is wrapped in this basically blanket of

0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:19.400
<v Speaker 1>an electromagnetic field. Uh. It can conduct power electricity even

0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.720
<v Speaker 1>when the power is cut off, so that's a definite advantage.

0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Um Although the German system does have like battery backups,

0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:26.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not like if the power went off, the train

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<v Speaker 1>would just go and stop. But the German one doesn't

0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.359
<v Speaker 1>never doesn't need tires, and the Japanese one does, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it needs to ramp up to a certain speed

0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:39.879
<v Speaker 1>in order to begin the float. It doesn't just start immediately.

0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.560
<v Speaker 1>What is it like eighty eight miles that's back to

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<v Speaker 1>the future sixty two. And I think they use liquid

0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:52.320
<v Speaker 1>nitrogen and it's just expensive to super cool these UH coils,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's one of the drawbicks. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>all expensive. They're none of this is they haven't figured

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<v Speaker 1>out a cheap way to do any of this. Now,

0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:05.960
<v Speaker 1>there's a proposed line um in Japan. It's already it's

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<v Speaker 1>the one that set the UH that land speed record

0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:15.120
<v Speaker 1>for maglev trains. It's the j R tok Um that's

0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:19.320
<v Speaker 1>the railway company to kind of close, but it's their

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<v Speaker 1>line um supposedly, supposedly is already in operation. I read

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere that it's moved like a million people already. But

0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:28.720
<v Speaker 1>they have a proposed line that they want to open

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<v Speaker 1>by seven and it's from Tokyo to Nagoya, and then

0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:36.760
<v Speaker 1>they want to extend that from Tokyo to Osaka by

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<v Speaker 1>and they're talking like it's like a fifty billion dollar project,

0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's just the first line that's Yeah,

0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.080
<v Speaker 1>it sounds about right. But the reason that it probably

0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:51.600
<v Speaker 1>will happen is they're they're um basing all of this

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<v Speaker 1>on data showing that people are going to keep moving

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<v Speaker 1>to Japan and Osaka, so they're going to have customers

0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and they're not relying on any money. They have so

0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.320
<v Speaker 1>much money they're just going to fund it themselves. Is

0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.920
<v Speaker 1>privately funded. Yeah. Yeah. Another con though of the Japanese

0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.200
<v Speaker 1>version is that if you have a pacemaker, you don't

0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.800
<v Speaker 1>want to get on that train because, um, that magnetic

0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:17.480
<v Speaker 1>field will reek havoc and you probably won't live. It

0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.960
<v Speaker 1>will shut you down. It will shut you down. And

0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:23.879
<v Speaker 1>then there's the in duct track and that is another

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<v Speaker 1>type of E d S system, which is the Japanese system,

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<v Speaker 1>except that they use room temperature magnets. And from what

0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I could tell, this is as close to just the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing of two magnets, regular magnets opposing each other

0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.800
<v Speaker 1>and they're just gonna use that, right, Yeah, Like it's

0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:46.560
<v Speaker 1>as close to we get as you going out to

0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the store and getting two magnets and putting their like

0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:53.280
<v Speaker 1>poles against each other so that they repel. Yeah. There's

0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.960
<v Speaker 1>actually something called the hull Bock array, which is a

0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.800
<v Speaker 1>way to just line up the magnets um in certain

0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:03.119
<v Speaker 1>directions so that they're holes are facing north, southeast or west. UM.

0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.560
<v Speaker 1>And when you put them together in a clump, basically,

0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the the magnetic field below the magnets doubles, the magnetic

0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.200
<v Speaker 1>field on the top of the magnet cancels one another

0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:19.960
<v Speaker 1>out right, So you have your extra strong magnetic magnetic

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:24.359
<v Speaker 1>field that can produce this Meisner effect basically UM without

0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:28.600
<v Speaker 1>this super cooled superconductor. Yeah. And these aren't even electro magnets.

0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think. Aren't they just magnets. I think they're

0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:34.120
<v Speaker 1>permanent room temperature magnets. It's crazy. Yeah, there are three

0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.960
<v Speaker 1>UM designs right now the in duct track one, two,

0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:42.639
<v Speaker 1>and three. UM One is high speed, two is slow speed,

0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 1>and three is heavy load slow speed. Yeah, so I

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.840
<v Speaker 1>guess just freighting stuff back and forth. You know they

0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:51.720
<v Speaker 1>did this in London at one point, but then shut

0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:55.040
<v Speaker 1>it down. Like in the eighties they had a maglife train. Yeah,

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.639
<v Speaker 1>just a very slow moving like it might have been

0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:00.640
<v Speaker 1>an airport type situation. And I looked up the one

0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:04.040
<v Speaker 1>here in Atlanta, the new airport trainer. I thought it

0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:05.960
<v Speaker 1>might have been maglev, but of course it's not. It's

0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:10.920
<v Speaker 1>just wheels, just stupid wheels. UM although they held Atlanta

0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:13.600
<v Speaker 1>have its day. Well, they have proposed one Atlanta is

0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:16.440
<v Speaker 1>one of the city's um that's trying to get maglev

0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:20.640
<v Speaker 1>going between Atlanta and Chattanooga. And there's one proposed between

0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:23.960
<v Speaker 1>d C and Baltimore. One in Las Vegas, Yeah, La

0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:28.960
<v Speaker 1>in Vegas. Um. And I think one from Pittsburgh to someplace,

0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:33.080
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not sure exactly where I saw that one too.

0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:37.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember where it might have been, d C, Dtsburg, Philly. Yeah. Well,

0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:39.520
<v Speaker 1>hold on, we're getting ahead of ourselves. Man. Well, no,

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 1>these are just proposals, and and they're having a hard

0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:44.280
<v Speaker 1>time getting the funding they need for any of these

0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:49.400
<v Speaker 1>to really take off, right, because it's expensive, it is, chuck,

0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.240
<v Speaker 1>how about a how about a message break? Huh hey,

0:22:52.400 --> 0:23:11.399
<v Speaker 1>let's do it alright. So, um, this whole idea of

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:15.119
<v Speaker 1>going three fifty miles an hour through space even without

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:19.480
<v Speaker 1>friction is um awesome. It is awesome. It can also

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:23.000
<v Speaker 1>be deadly. They've they've already been maglev accidents. Yeah. The

0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:26.360
<v Speaker 1>one in Germany was a little distressing because in two

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:29.040
<v Speaker 1>thousand and six it crashed into a repair car that

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:33.000
<v Speaker 1>was accidentally left on the track, And this was a

0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:38.119
<v Speaker 1>test too, so it's like everything should have been Yeah,

0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:40.159
<v Speaker 1>like why do you leave a car on the track? Period?

0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know. Uh. So they actually

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 1>people died in that one. The train was going at

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 1>least a hundred and twenty miles an hour when it

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:49.240
<v Speaker 1>struck the car, so it must have just been getting

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.360
<v Speaker 1>up to speed, I guess. Yeah. But yeah, twenty nine

0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:55.119
<v Speaker 1>people died on that one. There was another one in

0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Shanghai on that line that is an operation. Yeah. That

0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.199
<v Speaker 1>was just a fire though, and I don't want to

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:03.480
<v Speaker 1>make light of that, but it wasn't like a crash

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:07.399
<v Speaker 1>or an incident like that. Yeah. I'm just glad no

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 1>one got hurt exactly. Uh. And this is breaking news, dude.

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 1>This was in the paper today as we record it

0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>in real time. Okay, the Washington Post said that Northeast Maglev.

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's getting in on the maglev game. Uh, because I mean,

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:25.399
<v Speaker 1>like it really is a great idea. Yeah, it's just

0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:28.679
<v Speaker 1>really really expensive, but if you can get it up

0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:33.040
<v Speaker 1>and running, it's awesome. I Mean I imagine in literally

0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 1>in a hundred years, there'll be a lot of this

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:39.600
<v Speaker 1>as major transportation, you know, but not we won't see it.

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:44.160
<v Speaker 1>But as of today November four, Northeast maglev is UH

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:48.439
<v Speaker 1>has raised fifty million dollars in private funds. They can

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>build five inches of track with that exactly. And they're

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:54.919
<v Speaker 1>trying to get the Washington Baltimore lag going with private

0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.920
<v Speaker 1>funding because the government's not pony any money for that.

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I think we'll see it in our lifetime. They think

0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 1>ten billion between d C and Baltimore. Yeah, um, although

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 1>they're not. They don't have a firm cost yet. But um,

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how long it would take because I mean

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 1>that's not even that long of a drive anyway. Yeah,

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I agreed. Let maybe maybe ten minutes, which I mean

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 1>if you live in Baltimore and work in d C.

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:22.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that would be extremely attractive. Yeah, that's true. Um,

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about the Atlanta at Chattanooga thing. Who cares?

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, you know people in Chattanooga be psyched, I

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:29.719
<v Speaker 1>guess because they could get to the airport in like

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes. Yeah, I guess, not just in Chattanooga. I'll

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 1>go there and pain for gold. I saw this, um

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>this it was some Discovery show video from a Discovery

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:44.160
<v Speaker 1>show too, um, and it had our good friend Michio Kaku,

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and he was talking about a train, bullet train that

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 1>could get you from one side of the world to

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:56.919
<v Speaker 1>the other in an hour. Wow. And the way that

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 1>it would do that is to go through the middle

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:02.919
<v Speaker 1>of the Earth. Basically, you would have to create this

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>to basically like Alon Musk's idea, you create a tube,

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you evacuate all of the air out of it so

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 1>that there's no resistance whatsoever, and you just drop in

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 1>the force of gravity takes you up to about eighteen

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:18.639
<v Speaker 1>thousand miles an hour, and then once you make it

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>to the center and out the other side, your gravity

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 1>starts to work against you, so it slows you down.

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:27.199
<v Speaker 1>So within an hour you should be able to make

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>it from one side of the Earth to the other.

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:34.399
<v Speaker 1>But as Dr Coku put put it, um, it's going

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>to be very difficult getting through the center of the Earth.

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>I love all these theoretical ideas these guys come up

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 1>with it like it's not even even then remotely possible.

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>And he'd probably said, like, I was just talking about

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.200
<v Speaker 1>what they asked me to talk about. It's like, dude,

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like McDonald's one day when I said that

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I was waiting in line at McDonald's. So what else

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<v Speaker 1>you got? I got nothing else? Mag Lev? Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>way but the future. Yeah, we've got a we have

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<v Speaker 1>a standing bet. Now we will see a Maglev train

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<v Speaker 1>in operation that we can ride on while we're both alive.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my bet, you say now that we will, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if we went to Shanghai, we could do

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<v Speaker 1>it right now. So I feel like I just want

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<v Speaker 1>my bet health that you're gonna pay for us to

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<v Speaker 1>go to here in the United States. Um, within our lifetime,

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<v Speaker 1>which for me is gonna be about twenty years. We're

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<v Speaker 1>both still healthy enough to to ride it. Okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>take that bet. Okay. Uh, let's see. If you guys

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<v Speaker 1>want to learn more about Maglev, you can type that

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<v Speaker 1>word in the search part how stuff works dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>And since I said a search part, it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>listener mail. That's right. This is I'm gonna call this

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for students filmmaking students, So get your film on. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>guys who work for nonprofit Antiquity Now, which is dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to raising awareness of the importance of preserving our cult

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<v Speaker 1>cultural heritage by demonstrating how antiquities legacy influences and shapes

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<v Speaker 1>our lives today. Yeah, they have good stuff. We follow

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<v Speaker 1>them on Twitter. Oh you do nice? We do, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we do. Many of us at Antiquity Now are big

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<v Speaker 1>fans of you guys. We thought you would be interested

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<v Speaker 1>and this upcoming project that we are holding the first

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<v Speaker 1>ever Legacy Quest International Children's Film and Video Festival, which

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<v Speaker 1>aims to get tweens and teens excited about history. The

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<v Speaker 1>festival will be held in conjunction with the Archaeology Channel

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<v Speaker 1>International Film and Video Festival on May nine through and Eugene, Oregon.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what you gotta do, kids, young people, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're between twelve and fifteen, you can submit videos that

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<v Speaker 1>represent antiquities legacy in our contemporary life. For example, you

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<v Speaker 1>could depict how the invention of the wheel or calendar

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<v Speaker 1>has contributed to modern society, or how ancient methods of

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<v Speaker 1>solar energy have informed today's green technology. You got that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Entries may be submitted by an individual student or by

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<v Speaker 1>a group or class under the guidance of a teacher.

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<v Speaker 1>As the festival was designed in accordance with the United

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<v Speaker 1>States National Curriculum standards for Social Studies, Legacy Quests would

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<v Speaker 1>be a great project for teachers to do with their classes.

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<v Speaker 1>Creating the video will support the development of literacy research skills,

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<v Speaker 1>writing skills, visual communication, and storytelling and they have prizes first, second,

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<v Speaker 1>and third prize among along with ten honorable mentions. Will

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<v Speaker 1>be announced at the Archaeology Channel International Film and Video

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<v Speaker 1>Festival and promoted online by both the Archaeology Channel and

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<v Speaker 1>Antiquity Now and US and us so uh. For more

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<v Speaker 1>information and submission forms, go to antiquity now dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is from Chandra Goldfinger, not Chandra, she points out,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Chandra gold Finger, which is a great name, it

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<v Speaker 1>really is. And again that's May nine, throught of next year. Teachers, students,

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<v Speaker 1>where can they go to find out more info? Yeah,

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