1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: All right. On today's show, we quickly review the third 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: preseason game. We talk about the final fifty three man roster, 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: who earned it, who needs to show us something? And 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: is this roster built for success? And Farmer Fred made 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: an appearance with his yellow watermelon and we talked about 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: blue Moon. 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: Don't forget about that aunch. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: with Fred Smooth, Oh Farmer Fred, Farmer Friend, and Santana 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: Moss who man always so strong with the fit. Now 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: the fans get to see it. 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: Like who his fits are literally laid out of his closet. 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: This is what he had to go with everything. He 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: lays the fits out all week close. This is what 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: he does. Is just the Miami and me. Man, I 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: look at that bid. We go to bed matches. 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like I couldn't not even know they 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: made polos that color orange. 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: Lenders, Saman I was, I was, I was in the 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: Polo I would lets store the other day and I 21 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: saw the Miami colors. Why not where you know we 22 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: played this week? You know Mimi on how You're screaming 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 3: somebody the real Miami. So we're gonna but y'all, y'all 24 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: to do it's not even a big game trying to talk. 25 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: But also the hat and the shoes match too. I mean, Fred, 26 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: it's it's next. 27 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 4: This is what he does. He's been doing this for 28 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: a thousand years, like, this is what he does. 29 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: And my mama put me in my pampoint and he 30 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: was matching with. 31 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: All right, So let's we got a preseason game to recap. 32 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: A third preseason game, probably not the most important to recap, 33 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: but let's talk about it real quick. Okay, three and 34 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 1: oh in the preseason, yep, doesn't matter, doesn't matter, who cares, 35 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: who cares, who cares? 36 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: Went out, did your job. Let me tell you what 37 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: it dylla say. It says we got. 38 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 4: Dep Yeah, it says we got the world. Coach, Well, coach, 39 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 4: you got Depp. People listening, people are buying in. But 40 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 4: in the big scheme of things next week, nobody care. 41 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: What you did in the prese. That was the biggest 42 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: thing I saw. 43 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: I you know, I was harping this whole entire preseason 44 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: on the game day live, pregame and post. I'm sure 45 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: is that I didn't want to see a drop off 46 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: from from any group that came in the game. 47 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I didn't see it. I haven't seen it yet. 48 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so that's you know, knocking, that's preseasons 49 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: over it. But it showed that these coach these coaches 50 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 3: did a great job from the OTAs period, from the 51 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: you know, the beginning of that period all the way 52 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: into the training camp, that they had every group ready 53 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: to go out there and perform on it. 54 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 4: There's a lot about coach be Ene me because the 55 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 4: offense didn't have a lot of false start and people 56 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: knew where they were supposed to go in and let's 57 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 4: not act. 58 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: Like he'd been here for three years, like he just 59 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: got here. 60 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 4: Until install that quickly and they understand how to attack 61 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 4: a defense. 62 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: I still think they says a lot. 63 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 3: When it was the last time you've seen the quarterback 64 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: play looks so yeah, I mean first guy, second got 65 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: the third guy Yeah, and the third guy almost have 66 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: everybody like in shock, like hey, should we be keeping 67 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 3: you know? So, I mean, no, man, these these guys 68 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: did a great job with this, this whole group of 69 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: guys this summer. 70 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: Man. 71 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: And that's why I say it makes everybody look forward 72 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 3: to see what happens this regular season. 73 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: You know those other things like the old line. I 74 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: always go off whole line player because it's like that's 75 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: the thing that like falls down the fire. And I 76 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: thought the third old line was great. 77 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: They might have been the best. 78 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: They did a great job. They got guys covered up, 79 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: they understood protection rules. Like I just to go back 80 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: to that second game, like where Baltimore's running all out 81 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: and there was not a mental mistake. I couldn't believe that, 82 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, so really well coached team. 83 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: They got some talented guys. We're gonna talk about that 84 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: in the second with the roster, but again, you don't 85 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: want to talk about the standard. But I think it's important. 86 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: Remember three and oh in the preseason last time we 87 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: were three and oh twenty thirteen. You and I both 88 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: were on that team, and I think it was. 89 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: All when I looked back and looked at their feel, 90 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 4: I just just just making all the damn mistakes that they. 91 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: Could possibly make. He now, you know what's so funny 92 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: about that? You know that it's funny because you only 93 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: hit that from free that was so far. 94 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: You wasn't on a team that, dude, No, But honestly, man, 95 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: looking back, when I heard that stat being undefeated, some 96 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: of that switch turned. 97 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, man, did you remember we were in 98 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: I knew it. I remember it got That's what I seen. 99 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: I went into that season like I didn't have that 100 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: feeling them we could beat anybody. 101 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean? 102 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: Well, like I was hoping, like listen, I was hoping, like, Okay, 103 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: if we do play with Kirk. 104 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: At least we have it, you know what I mean? 105 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: Like honestly, like I knew Olgi had a you know, 106 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: bad injury that playoff, you know, twenty twelve. It was 107 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: like two thousand and thirteen at the time, we was 108 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: in the playoffs, first round plaoffs against Seattle. 109 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: So I was like, man, like the. 110 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: Way he played last year, that's the only way we 111 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: can dominate this league with that kind of play. 112 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 2: You know, I didn't. 113 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: I didn't feel like just dropping back doing what we 114 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: do good enough. Yeah, And so to see that what happened, 115 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: what transpired, I wasn't surprised. 116 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: All in for week one, I think that what blew it? 117 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: Listen, if you would have gave himself chance to hear 118 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: and I risked yourself back. But then what happened when 119 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: Kirk Couzins is right behind you. It makes you want 120 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: to get back quick. 121 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: No, I think so, And I again like that's to me, 122 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: like I totally forgot we were three and now I 123 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: totally forgot. So In terms of wins in the preseason, yeah, 124 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: I think it's like the most useless status. It's basically 125 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: glorified practice. So yeah, it doesn't really matter. But I 126 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: do think to your point, death coaching really good way 127 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: to the preseason always feels good to win, you know 128 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So let's talk about the final roster 129 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: which came out of that third preseason game. Okay, so 130 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: let's break it down. Okay, we got ten DB's seven 131 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: wide receivers. That's a little unexpected for me anyway, ten 132 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: D lineman, eleven D lineman. We got the bad notes here, 133 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: passed stuff, anything, anything that surprised you in terms of 134 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: the final fifty three. 135 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: I guess what really shocked me was we said before 136 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: that game. When I walked into this stadium, I had 137 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 4: Kaz Allen on the roster. When I left the stadium, 138 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 4: I knew he had almost played hisself off the roster. 139 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: While I watched Tinsley. 140 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 4: Play hisself on the run to the Washington So if 141 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 4: I say anything caught me off, God, it was dead 142 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 4: and I just thought maybe. I just thought maybe kaz 143 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: Ala had two ways to make this team wide receive 144 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: it in special teams, and I didn't feel like he 145 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 4: didn't have a good one at each of them. 146 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: Well, I wasn't surprised. 147 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 3: Only surprise the biggest too surprises for me was Curtis 148 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: Hodge's making it. I feel like he lay itself out 149 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: of making it the whole entire preseason. But if you 150 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 3: look at his upside, you know, the height, just what 151 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 3: he showed us last year. 152 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: I'm glad the coaches just keep him around now. 153 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 3: I always thought that cast would probably make it, but 154 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: I thought that would be the practice squad kind of guy, 155 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 3: because I thought we needed this those six guys I mentioned, 156 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 3: you know, with with our first four and then the 157 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: last two being Pringled and your boy Dad. I thought 158 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: those was going to be our solid six anyway. And 159 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: then now you see that, you know, Tendsley for this 160 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: way up to be that seven guy. I thought he 161 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: was gonna keep two guys seven and eighth guy might 162 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 3: be the practice squad guy. I don't think Tinsley, will 163 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 3: you know, crack that that that group of playing unless 164 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 3: somebody goes down, you know, or he just playing out 165 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: of control through practicing, coach, that we need to see 166 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: this guy in the field, you know. So I still 167 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: feel that we still have room to braincast and might 168 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: have another receiver. 169 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 2: But they said, they said the roster is fluid. 170 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: That's the way you want it to be because you 171 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 4: don't know who's gonna get cut off of other teams. 172 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: You don't know what you need to inject, so you know, 173 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: it's a fluent situation. 174 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: And I think this is a really good, good, like 175 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: kind of case study of like training camp and you know, 176 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: the preseason games. Right, So what I mean by that 177 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: is like Tinsley started off or no Cas started off 178 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: super hot, started off really hot. Look like that dude 179 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: kind of cooled after the Baltimore week and kind of 180 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: had been steadily hitting a regression while Tinsley and Bryce 181 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: and Tremaine were kind of went the other way. It 182 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: was like they were like planes taken off, you know. 183 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: And I think, like I can't tell you how many 184 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: times I've seen guys start the offseason hot and then 185 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: kind of fizzle out like where you say, oh, that 186 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: guy's gonna make it. He's gonna make it. And then 187 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: it's just like it's the last two weeks of camp. 188 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: If you're showing out in those periods like you're probably 189 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: gonna make it. 190 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 4: You know, it's the last taste you leave in somebody, 191 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 4: Just be honest. You only as good as your last performance. 192 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: In his last performance said no, not right now. 193 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: It's also when you're most stressed though, too, Like you're 194 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: the most stressed out. I want to see how you 195 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: are when it's like a. 196 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: Little bit left that game. 197 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: Saying that was to me, that was just him being 198 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: in his own head, him you've hurt. He heard the hype, 199 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: because that's one of the things about playing, being in 200 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: our shoes, you have to know what you can do 201 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: and what you can't do. So I was a guy 202 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: that I didn't never want to listen to nothing good 203 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: or bad about myself because guess what it did. 204 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: It bothered me both both of them. You know what 205 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: I mean. 206 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: I know who I am, so I don't want to 207 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: hear the Oh Tanner is the greatesten you know, and 208 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: I didn't want to hear all he suck because now 209 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: I'm mad that I sucked to you, and then that's 210 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: the greatest. I'm like, ah, you're putting this pressure on me. 211 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: So what I always do is just say neutral. I'm 212 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: gonna say something I'm hiding. Don't show me it, don't 213 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: show me the press, don't don't let don't don't let 214 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: me come down them stairs. And like my homeboys always said, 215 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: when I walked downstairs and they got ESPN on, they 216 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: would switch it because they knew I didn't want to 217 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: hear to talk. So I think he heard it. I 218 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: think he drunk the kool aid. He hey man, damn, 219 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: I made it. All I got to do is finish. 220 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: And he went out there, look dropping the receiver balls, 221 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: dropping those catches. You know, I don't think that that 222 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 3: weighed on him. But when I saw the hunt that punt, 223 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: that's what we want you for. That's what we want 224 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 3: you to be sure handed there, because if you do 225 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: this well, you can make the team as a receiver 226 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: that we're receiver. 227 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: He would develop me there, you know. 228 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 4: But see, I think the thing is too he was 229 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: always this this high school, in this college, he had 230 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 4: this nostalgia behind him. 231 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: He got realized. I think he scored seventy five touchdowns 232 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 2: of this in his senior year. 233 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 4: Of high school. Seventy five wasn't there. I know, guys 234 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: ain't did that in their whole career. At the end 235 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 4: of the day, he was one of those guys that 236 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 4: a lot of teams wanted to bring in the camp. 237 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 4: Figure out what can I do with him? How can 238 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 4: I do it? But you said, the maturation of the. 239 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 2: Off season, the preseason and. 240 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 4: Things come once it comes to this day. Who can 241 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: help us win? That's what it comes down to. 242 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 3: And that's me him that she got What I told 243 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: you about Dax is why he was always like, especially 244 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: with the group of guys we. 245 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: Had around him. 246 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, he just man, you can't deny what he does 247 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: on the offensive side of the ball. When he needed 248 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: to make a play that third now he came across 249 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: the middle, got smacked in the face, caught the ball, 250 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That's what you saw from 251 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 3: him from day one. So I was always believed in 252 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: him at that. Now, I hope seeing what we saw 253 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: with the young kid, you know cast Yeah, DA's girl 254 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: A couple of and say look I gotta take some 255 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: I've heard the chirps about me. So I need to 256 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: go out there and do something with this ball on. 257 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: A punt return. Don't be crazy. Take what they give you. 258 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: I've always been take what they give you. They give 259 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: you a lane, go run with it. 260 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: You don't get us ten yards were not actually need 261 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: to go score touchdowns? 262 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: Now? If it's there, not go score a touchdown? 263 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: Well, I think about it is he catches the ball 264 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 4: very well pump return. But the best punk returns to 265 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 4: me catch the ball going full. They don't wait on 266 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: the ball. They usually get deeper than the ball and 267 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: start to come up as the ball comes. I think 268 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 4: if he gets the running start, because I don't think 269 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 4: he's good from zero to one hundreds, but if you 270 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 4: get that run and start, I think he can. 271 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 3: It's not even about to run start. I don't want 272 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 3: to spend too much time on this. It's just about 273 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: understanding your leverage. Guys come down downfield in the punt return. 274 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 3: Punk returners has has the advantage because they come down 275 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: like a bad head. Yeah you got to you know, 276 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: for show that my flight. He don't even have to 277 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 3: have that guy blocked. Just get in his way because 278 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 3: now these other guys, I got to be real shifty 279 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 3: to know because they big guys. Most of those guys 280 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: the inside of big guys, they are linebackers and you know, 281 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: you know guys who who special teams. Demons are guys 282 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: who's second or third on the you know, the roster, you. 283 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: Know, playings out there covering. So just use your level. 284 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: Bring the Logan postle that he definitely break him down. Yeah, 285 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: you know it. He just had to know where his 286 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 2: leverage at. Man. 287 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: But but I'm just happy, you know, I wasn't too 288 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: surprised with everything that we have. 289 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: You know, I think those two guys. 290 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 3: I love the way Tinsley just progressively, you know, found 291 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: his way on the roster. And then I'm just Curtis 292 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 3: better go out there and pray to the gods, because boy. 293 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: Someone someone sees something. We see it too. 294 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: But you know, when when you have a preseason like 295 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: he did, yeah, it's not likely to get on the team. 296 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: Let's just talk about Curtis for one second. As you 297 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: mentioned him. So I think when you got a guy 298 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: who's six eight two forty runs like he runs, and 299 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: to give him his props, he has progressive as a 300 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: run blocker. Now, right with Logan Thomas's injury, right, I 301 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: think there's something there. And Ron said in Oppressor that 302 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: he was like, you know this is we look at 303 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: this like it's his rookie year and he went from 304 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: like zero and he improved enough, yeah that we felt 305 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: like it a good good It. 306 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: Wasn't about the preseason games with him. They want to 307 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 4: see him continue to get better because they knew he 308 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 4: ain't wished his peak yet. 309 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 310 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think this is what all coaches like. 311 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 4: They like a player with first of all, clean slate, 312 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: meaning he wouldn't wasn't no bad coaching on him because 313 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 4: we just moved him to this position, clean slate, plush 314 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 4: like you said, you can't buy six they gonna have 315 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 4: to grocery. 316 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: He runs well, man, he runs so well. And so 317 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: when you're big and you run like you just get 318 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: a longer leash, like I hate to say, like that's 319 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: what it is like when you're a freak athlete. You 320 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: stick around longer because everyone no one wants you to 321 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: figure it out with somebody else, yea. 322 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 4: And nobody wants to sign a fridge food at six 323 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 4: feet a hundred five pound when you got this guy 324 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 4: six eight two filthy that's a difference, man, big difference. 325 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: So I think that's part of the reason why, and 326 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: hopefully he continues to develop. I think he has developed 327 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: just about whether he can turn that corner. So let's 328 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: talk about kind of some little games. Right. Our producer 329 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: came up like who earned it? Showed me something and 330 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: built for success? Okay, all right, so let's talk about 331 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: who earned the spot? Who your guy? Like, Man, I'm 332 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: proud of that guy. They grinded, they made it happen. 333 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: If you want, I can go first, I go first. 334 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: To me, it's Chris Rodriguez. Man like Chris Rodriguez, because 335 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: everyone like eb in his first pressure was like, Chris 336 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: has to earn the spot. You got Jonathan Williams, we've 337 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: got Patterson, guys who've been around, who played a lot 338 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,599 Speaker 1: of NFL football, and he had to show that he 339 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: could do it. And I felt like he came out 340 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: with a really high yards per carry, very physical running style, 341 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 1: great in protections, and was like, I deserve to be 342 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: the third guy. And I think he went from like 343 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: a guy that is going to be on the roster 344 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: to a guy. 345 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: And we're gonna get touched. 346 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was gonna get some touches, you know, and 347 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: I think that's warranted based on how he ran. So 348 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: he's a guy that I look at and I say, 349 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: he threw the preseason games, yeah, because again he didn't 350 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: look great with the pads off, because that's not who 351 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: he is. Like, he's a guy you put the pads 352 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: on him because a different dude. Yeah, and just became 353 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: like that powerful runner that you know, like EB seems 354 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: to like, like I look at Isaiah Pachenko, like he's 355 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: got that skill set. So he's a guy that I thought, man, 356 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: you earned that. 357 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: Good job. I've gotta go with rich homie Kwun Qun Moyden. 358 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 4: I thought kun Moydon earned it because we put a 359 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 4: lot on his plate. We said, we need you to 360 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 4: learn nickel, we need you to learn corner, we need 361 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 4: you to learn free safety, we need to learn scrong safety, 362 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 4: like five positions they asked his kid to learn, and 363 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 4: he started off pretty slow. But I watched him. I 364 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 4: watched the game and the maturation slow down in his helmet. 365 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 4: I watched him start to go out there and make plays. 366 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 4: So I felt like Kwan really came along and progressed 367 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 4: from the first day I seen him at practice till 368 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 4: the last day I seen him at practice. 369 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: He got better. He got better, and even on the 370 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: play he. 371 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 4: Made that interception on he was beat, Yeah, he kept 372 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 4: going and kept making that play. So his resiliency I 373 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 4: think really said he earned it. 374 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: And it's to a point where where do you play him? 375 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 4: Because we got him checked as a safety, but he 376 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 4: can play corner. So I just think he one of 377 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 4: those people that really went out there and I felt 378 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 4: like they challenged him. 379 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: He answered the challenge, and he only can get better. 380 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: My guy's gonna be Kaleik Hussing. Oh all right. 381 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, when you look at what he did 382 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: that last game last year against the Cowboys, everyone said, yeah, 383 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: we knew he has this in him, but it's not 384 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: consistent enough for us to say we want to put 385 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: him here. 386 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: And Kemp from here on term before. 387 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: But our style of defense, the way we play our linebackers, 388 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: I think he fits. He fits the mold because he's 389 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: he's a he's an ex safety, he's a. 390 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: Guy that he's an athlete. 391 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: But what we saw from that moment to now is, 392 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: excuse me, he steady shows up. 393 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: He's been showing up the whole time. 394 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: So when you have a guy that can play the 395 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: special team the way he can play it, you have 396 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: to find a way to put him on the field. 397 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: And when it counted the most, when it mattered the most, 398 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 3: he went out that he was in the backfield the 399 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: entire night. I know, the only probably came away with 400 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: with three tackles or somebody, but. 401 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: He was just so explosive. Man, you flew around, and. 402 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: He showed the coaching staff that when you give me 403 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: a chance to be the guy, that is what I 404 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: need to do. I need to show up and be 405 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: back here and make places. 406 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: And that's what did. 407 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: He was a difference maker. So that's why I think 408 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: he earned it because he shows you that. Yeah, I 409 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: know I'm a special teams demon, but this is what 410 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: I do at linebacker when you need me to play 411 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: this position. 412 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm really glad you brought that up because it was 413 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: like the guys that you expected in that third preseason game. 414 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: It was like the two Hills, the James Cuts in 415 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: the Mayos who came out and there like we are 416 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: varsity football player. Yeah, most that's why we deserved the 417 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: fifty three. And so I like that you brought him 418 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: up a couple of honorable mentions real quick. You gotta 419 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: mention Tinsley. I mean he's a guy, low hanging fruit, 420 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: like you know, he's an undrafted guy making the fifty three. 421 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: Like being an undrafted guy who made the fifty three, like, 422 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: I got a lot of props and respect for that. 423 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: The other guy is Rocky Stromberg. I thought he did 424 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: a great Joby Sklomberg getting a great job playing guard. 425 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: And I think he's a guy now that's going to 426 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: be dressed on game day like that wasn't a thing 427 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: we were talking about. But he'll be dressed up. 428 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 4: Definitely because he's shown his versatility one and his nastiness too. 429 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: I told you I take any offensive lineman any day 430 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 4: from Arkansas University. 431 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: Oh you want to speak on the guy too. I 432 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: think a guy who deserves some flowers too is Christen Holmes. 433 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: Dude. 434 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: I think last year when you watched him, you can 435 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: see the physique, You see how fit he looks, and 436 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: you're like, man, he looks like a player. 437 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: Yep. 438 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: By that time, we saw him a situations where it 439 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 3: wasn't like he was just you know, beat bad. 440 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: He was there better players. 441 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: Bingo the guys making a player that day that he 442 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: didn't make. Yeah, I saw a guy who was determined 443 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: this preseason. 444 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: He looked like a he like a guy as a 445 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: different animal. 446 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, he like he's a man of mission. 447 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: And I mean had a little sleeve on his shoulder, 448 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: so you can tell he was a little hampered. But 449 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 3: he went out there and made play special teams. 450 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 4: And Jake from State Farm, I gotta give it. I'm 451 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 4: sorry I've been a hold on him, but he threw 452 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 4: to me. 453 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: He threw him celf on his roster. 454 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 4: But I understand keeping three quarterbacks is a lot, but 455 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. He earned the respect of his peers around 456 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 4: the NFL in this preseason. 457 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: And I think with Jake, like just because you didn't 458 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: make the fifty three doesn't mean you did a good job. 459 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: You didn't do a good job. Like you're here, You're 460 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: gonna be developed, and like, think about it, Jacobe's on 461 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: a one year deal, maybe next year the backup or whatever. 462 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: We we don't know what's gonna happen. But I think 463 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: having a guy like that stay around the program, be 464 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: in the building. Yeah, he deserved that man. Great job, 465 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: all right, So now let's talk about guys who need 466 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: to show you something or things you want to see 467 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: from the roster moving in the week one. 468 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: What you got tight end position as a whole. 469 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in position as a. 470 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 2: Whole with a real tight end. Police stand up. 471 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's calm down. 472 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: I gotta be the lead dog in there. And we 473 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 2: know the one thing about. 474 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: Ability be man to calm down real quick. 475 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 2: The best ability is availability. 476 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: No, I know, I'm I'm with you, But Cole Turner man, 477 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: he's bald. This preseason showed bald. 478 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: Say the last word you just said. 479 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. 480 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: I get it. But what but like I'm saying, I 481 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: look at that and I say, like, I thought you 482 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: were going to talk about his logan Thomas healthy because 483 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: I feel. 484 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 2: Like this what my availability came in. 485 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like Cole has stepped up and been 486 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: like I deserve a bigger role in the offense. 487 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 488 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: Every day he's been super consistent. Baits is Baits like. 489 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 4: There is John Bates, because John Bates stood out last preseason, 490 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 4: stood out, and I have seen nothing from Jump in 491 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 4: terms of catching the ball or what. 492 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: He He's a he's a Logan type type. 493 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to and there's 494 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 3: no fleck on Logan. I'm just saying that they use 495 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: him to block a lot, you know what I mean, 496 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: Like every now and then he gets he gets our 497 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: between to catch the ball, and he could catch the ball. Well, 498 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: yeah he had that one he dropped early in the preseason. Catches, 499 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 3: but he catches the ball. 500 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: He's a sure handed tight end. 501 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: So I think he's just one of those guys that's 502 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 3: not used to be you know that that that that 503 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: type of tight end. 504 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: You know, can't you think that position as a whole. 505 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 2: Somebody has to say it's. 506 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 4: Me and I want to see this distant position that 507 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 4: I say, got somebody show me? 508 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: What about you. 509 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: Show me somebody? I agree with the tight ends. I 510 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: would say offensive line, I want to see you. But again, 511 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: I think I think they did a really good job 512 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: in the preseason. I think they got better. I think 513 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: you look at that Baltimore game. I like the way 514 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: Eb's calling games to help those guys with protection. Cornelius 515 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: Lucas has got to be the best swing tackle in 516 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: the NFL. 517 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 2: Whatever you need me to do, that's what Lucas say is. 518 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: And Gates, Man, I love that pure nasty. Like my 519 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: favorite penalty of all time was in the preseason this 520 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: year he smoked some you know what I'm saying, Like, 521 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: I love I like the group coused me had a 522 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: great preseason. 523 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: I love like I gotta go back to Nick Gates, 524 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 4: like it's a defensive player. 525 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: We don't like Oliver the guys you want, man, I 526 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 2: know what. 527 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 3: The guys got to show up for me and I 528 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 3: didn't want to cut you off the linebackers. 529 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. I like that. 530 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 3: I just feel like at the end of the day, 531 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: they are the guys that we don't talk about on 532 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: the defense like they're hitting. 533 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: They're the hitting gems like we have. We're going to 534 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: play two of them most of the time. 535 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 3: You know, the other guy goes going to be a 536 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 3: you know, a rover or you know whatever you want 537 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: to call them safety hybrid. But I truly believe that 538 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: when they're in the game and they know it's run, 539 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: I need to see them stuff go down here. I 540 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: need to see some London Fletcher kind of play, you 541 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 3: know what I mean. I need to see these guys 542 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 3: going downhill. 543 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 2: I know, we don't have that body make up when 544 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: it comes to. 545 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: You're okay speaking of that, did you see Jami Davis 546 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: against Baltimore. Who's that big fullback that got there? 547 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, big three pounds. 548 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: Yeah he was speaking that man. 549 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: No, Jamon Davis is the truth. 550 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: Now. 551 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 2: I want to see the game totally slow down. 552 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's playing more confident. But I think to your point. 553 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 3: Like I'm just saying, it's a whole we just need 554 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 3: to see all those guys be one of those cores 555 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 3: that we can say okay because once the defense get 556 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 3: that play, you're down packed, then we can go out 557 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: there and play big league football. You know what I'm saying, 558 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: because I think the front guys, that's what you're missing 559 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: that we're missing in the in the middle. You know, 560 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 3: you got to have those guys shopping in the guys 561 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 3: in the back end. Hey, you know what I mean. 562 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 4: Open me a cream fighting good if the cream ain't 563 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 4: in the middle and it just open me a goodie. 564 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: I'm just being honest. 565 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: All right. So I know, are we is this team 566 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: and the current and you know, so fluid or stole 567 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: to kind of finalizing roster. Is it built for success? 568 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: Yes? It is. 569 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 4: I look at teams from the top down and here 570 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 4: we go. Do we got an offense that could be optimistic? 571 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: Scope points at any time, run our pass? Yes we do. 572 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: Do. 573 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 4: We got a special team that could be special. We 574 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 4: got one of the best punters in the league, and 575 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 4: Joey Slide will kick. 576 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: You in that like. 577 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, we got special 578 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 4: teams still to be determined. 579 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 2: On the return side of it. 580 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 4: Defense, I trust those guys not only to go out 581 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 4: there and keep us in games. 582 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: I trust these guys to start to win games. Well. 583 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, one of the big emphesis for the defense 584 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: was turning the football over. And you got Cam Curll 585 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: in practice now getting his hand on the football. Lot 586 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: Percy Butler got his hand on the football. Quit what's 587 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: her name? 588 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 3: If I have my sa I'm gonna put him. 589 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. 590 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 4: I can't wait to see how many receivers getting put 591 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 4: on the Phillips list. 592 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. See, usual quarterbacks does it? It's in quarterbacks. 593 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: Put both of them on it. 594 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 4: They usually make your reach. But now forth least take 595 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 4: money at ther pock. This is a different thing right now. 596 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think I think I think the offense 597 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: looks better than I thought it would look at this 598 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: point of year, and it's shocking me. How can I think, Like, 599 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: to your point, it's like really well coached. I think 600 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: what a big point of concern was the offensive line. 601 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: I think EB showed that he can call a game 602 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: to help that group. I think the skill position players 603 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: are probably some of the best in the NFL, and 604 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: if you can maximize those guys mitigate some of the 605 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: decision making. Sam House do, I think you're gonna be 606 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: in And Sam's done a great job. You know, it's 607 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: and everyone says it's the preseason. I'm with that, Yeah, 608 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, preason football, but it's it's the test he 609 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: was given and he passed. 610 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 3: To be honest though, and I was going to get 611 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: at this about why I feel that we are built 612 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 3: for success. This is the first time in a long time, 613 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 3: and it's counting the years that I played this game, 614 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 3: that I've seen a team in the preseason from us 615 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 3: like we look like a team well coached, well oil machine. 616 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: We was a unit. We went out there and played football. 617 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 3: Like I said before, I keep harping on that unit 618 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: that those levels of you know what groups come in. 619 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: I haven't seen that from this organization in. 620 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 2: A long time. I good at the Raven practices. 621 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 4: Watching those practices, I was like, okay, not saying, you know, 622 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 4: the rings are great measuringy stick to measure yourself. But 623 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 4: to see these guys go in there and take none 624 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: of that from the any of these guys and and 625 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 4: w these dudes in the trenches go out there and 626 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 4: take on their receivers one on one, they running backs. 627 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: I thought it was great. 628 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: Now yeah, speaking of measuring sticks, Yeah, it's time, farmer Fred. 629 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: I'm here. 630 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're getting ready to measure. Oh yes, sir, this 631 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: is this is this is just yellow watermelon. 632 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 2: Yellow watermelon, a k gold yellow meat an orange. 633 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: Now also, well why is it it's yellow? 634 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 2: It's gold gold? Its yellow? Brain because I got the 635 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: colors on for some reason, and I had to. 636 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 4: Bring these out because you remember I told you they 637 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 4: wasn't right last week. But see this week, this whole 638 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 4: week gonna be a blue moon. 639 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: So you call Wegmans. Wegmans don't even care it is. 640 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: So, is this is this different sweetness? Is it? Should 641 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: it taste different than regular? 642 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 2: Well, they have a distinct taste to them. 643 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: It's like a little different. 644 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 4: It's not quite as sweet, and it does the yellow 645 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 4: doesn't have the active taste of a red one. 646 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 647 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost in and out pure. 648 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: And you were saying something that this is the original color. 649 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: These are original colors. 650 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: Now, I don't know if this is true, guys, but 651 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: you have to fact test this. 652 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 4: But this is from this is a psyclopedia everything. Like 653 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 4: I told you all, this week is gonna be a 654 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 4: blue moon the whole week. 655 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 656 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 4: I mean the moon would be blue like the actually 657 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: the actual moon every night this week will be a 658 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 4: blue moon. This happens like every ten years. 659 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: Or how you know about it because I study stuff 660 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: like that. 661 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 4: Is this for farming, No, it's very good for me 662 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 4: because that's when you get your last What is happening 663 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 4: right now, because it's almost I mean we're going into 664 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 4: the fall, so you're gonna get your last big batch 665 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 4: of vegetables, of summer vegetables right now. 666 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: This is gonna be your last put out. I won't 667 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: get into one more water. 668 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: But that's not because of the blue moon though. 669 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 2: No, but the blue moon is a good signal. 670 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: You're making that that's when you're making when you're making. 671 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: Something like I'm not, No, I'm not. 672 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: You're studying the blue moon, so I will say that 673 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 3: the orange one is sweeter than this one. 674 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: It's the same water though, right, the same one there too. 675 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: I was did you actually think I had a have 676 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: a hybrid? You? I had a half goal in the 677 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: yellow yellow is good only people from Cally. 678 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, I thought it was just different 679 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: tints that kind of looks like the same color as 680 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: this similar similar all right, anyway, Fred, thanks for winging 681 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: the watermelon. 682 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 2: Man. 683 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: It's very very good. And everyone keep an EyeT for. 684 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 2: That blue mood. 685 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: That's going to do us for us today. It makes 686 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: you tune in to more Commander's. 687 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 2: Content BlueMoon now week. 688 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: All right, we got so much Commander's content Game Day 689 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: Live Santana Moss and Brian Mitchell now and guess what 690 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm on the post game man. I'm excited to be 691 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: doing some stuff with b Mitch. And then we got 692 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: get Loud with Fred and Jenks. 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