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Speaker 1: Countdown to kickoff continues ahead of Thursday Night Football the

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars and the New Orleans Saints from the Caesars

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Speaker 1: super Dome. It's an eight to fifteen Eastern Time kickoff.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen seasons in the NFL, is a left tackle with

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Speaker 1: the Bengals and Rams. He's now in his second season

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Speaker 1: as a pregame in postgame analyst for Thursday Night Football

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Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime. It is Andrew Whitworth. It's a pleasure

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Speaker 1: to see you again the Jaguars in prime time. What's up?

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Speaker 2: Oh man? All is good.

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Speaker 3: Have to be back in New Orleans, my home state

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Speaker 3: of Louisiana looking forward to this football game.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was figured at least they would have

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Speaker 1: a banner or something of you in that stadium there

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Speaker 1: because of all the experience you've had before. The NFL

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Speaker 1: in that place had a lot of success there.

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Speaker 3: I have, you know, played a lot of football games

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Speaker 3: in the Superdome, that's for sure. Playing at West Monroe

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Speaker 3: High School in Louisiana and made a lot of state

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Speaker 3: champion appearances and was able to be a part of

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Speaker 3: three winning teams there and then winning a national championship

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Speaker 3: in college in this building in an NFC championship. Even

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Speaker 3: though you can't talk about that too much while I'm

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Speaker 3: here in New Orleans, they're still a little bitter about

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Speaker 3: that game, a little.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's quite a bit in that town.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to this one though. Obviously, the jaguars number

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Speaker 1: one priority this week is the quarterback position, and as

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Speaker 1: of this recording, still kind of up in the air.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence with a left knee injury. What's the balance

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Speaker 1: for you of toughness and battling through and the long

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Speaker 1: haul safety of your franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think obviously when you're talking about Trevor,

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Speaker 3: but it's long haul safety. But also because these seasons now,

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Speaker 3: especially with another game, seventeen games, it's a long battle

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Speaker 3: and it's really, you know, as emotional as we want

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Speaker 3: to get about one week, it's about finding ways to

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Speaker 3: win your division and getting yourself in that big tournament

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Speaker 3: at the end, you want to have a seat in

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, and so you really got away sometimes I

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Speaker 3: think on these short weeks, you know, what's overall best health.

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Speaker 3: He truly feels confident. We're confident and security and the

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Speaker 3: stabilization of his knee all of that. Then sure you

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Speaker 3: let him go, but you want to make sure you

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Speaker 3: keep in mind it's a long year. This is the

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Speaker 3: guy we expect to be at the Helm for a

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Speaker 3: long time. Let's make sure we don't let what we

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Speaker 3: want right now kind of overdo what we really want

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Speaker 3: in the long term, you know.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes you get a lot of this on Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure guys that maybe have been nicked up and

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Speaker 1: you just don't know some status some weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's a challenge these Thursday night games.

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Speaker 3: The great part about it, I think is that you

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Speaker 3: do have those great added days on the other side

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Speaker 3: of the Thursday night, But getting to the game, I

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Speaker 3: think sometimes I would imagine if we polled all the

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Speaker 3: athletic trainers in the NFL, this is one of their

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Speaker 3: most stressful weeks because it's who they got to report

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Speaker 3: the coaches a little banged up, and who they got

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Speaker 3: be okay, and we need you.

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Speaker 2: To play this week.

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Speaker 3: It's a tough battle for them because they got, you

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Speaker 3: if we just think this is going to hurt us

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Speaker 3: Let's not lose three games trying to win one. And

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Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth with us, all right, I'm curious your thoughts

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Speaker 1: about overall offensive line continuity and consistency. The Jaguars have

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a challenge.

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Speaker 3: I think that really when you start talking about that,

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Speaker 3: You know, I look at even like a Cam Robinson

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Speaker 2: There's not really a week off either.

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Speaker 1: I mean, every defensive front seems to have somebody up

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Speaker 3: just to come into New Orleans. It's a loud place,

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Speaker 3: It's a place that I've played a lot of football,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth with us from Amazon Prime. Let's flip it around. Now,

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Speaker 3: I really think it's something that's it's commendable and it's

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Speaker 3: hey man, this is the identity. This is when we

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Speaker 3: And I think Josh Allen, to me, it's not so

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're gonna take pride and how we do things.

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Speaker 3: They can look at a guy right there, a veteran

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Speaker 3: And then you look at them, they'll be able to

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I rather a team that gives up a ton

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Speaker 3: to me, that's really what Dick takes games.

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Speaker 2: I mean you really, you look at it.

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Speaker 3: Outside of points, that turnover margin can tell you who

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Speaker 1: All right, Andrew, final thoughts with you here. The Saints

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Speaker 1: Alfren Camara is back he missed the first few games.

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Speaker 3: We all want those things to just mesh right away,

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Speaker 1: Are you buying the Jaguars this year?

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Speaker 3: I am?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you look at it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what you know ten and three since their

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Speaker 3: wouldn't think this team doesn't have a chance to win

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Speaker 3: they showed last year they were right there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Tough game tonight, Thursday Night on the road in the

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Speaker 1: Caesars super Dome, Andrew Whitworth, Amazon Prime. Always a pleasure,

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the time, enjoy the game tonight.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you man, always