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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Cadino and Rich Podcast.

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Speaker 2: really be mad if everybody got screwed?

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Speaker 1: Ryan Hollins?

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Speaker 2: Can we really be mad if everybody got the raw

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Speaker 2: end of the deal? That's the question here on this Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: how are you on this Wednesday?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good, brother, My Rockets are in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Got a bit of a rivalry rekindled right Golden State

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Speaker 4: and Houston. NBA basketball is back, and I'm feeling better

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Speaker 4: than ever.

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Speaker 2: Oh classic Western Conference finals few years back, maybe a

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Speaker 2: little bit more than a few years back, but it

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Speaker 2: was also close.

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Speaker 1: Will Houston get the better end of it?

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Speaker 2: Some people think yes, some people think no, We're not

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Speaker 2: sitting on the fence here. There's a reason to pose

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Speaker 2: that question, and he is. You know, Ryan Hollins, TV

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Speaker 2: analyst for the Rockets broadcast in addition to his more

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Speaker 2: than a decade long career in the NBA, is alongside

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Speaker 2: me today. Find him at the Ryan Hollins on X

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Speaker 2: You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Ryan

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Speaker 2: Berschinger is here. Ryan Berschinger is gonna have some interesting

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Speaker 2: numbers on what Las Vegas thinks of that Warriors Rocket series.

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Speaker 1: Hello Ryan Berschinger. Day to you.

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Speaker 2: Chris Purfetts on the Ones and twos, Hello Chris. Hi

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Speaker 2: and breaking the news as he always does, Isaac Lowan

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Speaker 2: cron will keep us up to date of what is

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Speaker 2: going on throughout the world of sports. Plus there may

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Speaker 2: be an appearance from Ben Howland. Know that could happen

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Speaker 2: at Ryan Hollins and later on in the show. You're

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Speaker 2: a Big three veteran as well. It's gonna be one

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Speaker 2: against three in the numbers game, that's what we're calling

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Speaker 2: it today. Hollins, you are taking on the team of

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Speaker 2: Ryan Berschinger, Isaac Lohan, Crown, and Chris Purfett in the

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Speaker 2: Numbers Game. And we'll explain what the Numbers Game is

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Speaker 2: a little bit later on in the show. I just

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Speaker 2: don't want anybody to have a head start already and

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Speaker 2: start to cheat. That's my main that's my main issue,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins. So even you will find out later on

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Speaker 2: what the game is about coming up next hour. But

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Speaker 2: the game that we are talking about right now transpired

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Speaker 2: last night in San Francisco, and what an ending it

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Speaker 2: was in so many ways, including this late call at

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Speaker 2: the end of the Grizzlies Warriors game on ninety five

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Speaker 2: point seven and the Warriors radio network Canar touch the

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Speaker 2: corn five point four to go bounce past Barranton with

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Speaker 2: there's a five second call.

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Speaker 3: That's a five second call. Grizzlies, they've turned the ball over. Wow.

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Speaker 3: They didn't get the ball in in time. Wow. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, how many five second calls do you remember from

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Speaker 2: your NBA career on teams you've been on, teams you've

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Speaker 2: do any five second calls stand out, Ryan Hollins.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm not gonna go crazy, like

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Speaker 3: first off, I'm gonna say they don't stand out. I

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Speaker 3: was gonna say my entire career, I've never had one, sure,

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Speaker 3: there have been a lot this year. I think Houston,

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Speaker 3: all I could think is and maybe if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 3: forgive me Memphis fans, and I thought they played great.

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Speaker 3: They competed, not going man, Taylor Jenkins. You know that

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Luk, who's here? I know exactly what you're

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Speaker 2: the stopwatch, Ryan Hollins. It was not a five second violation. Wow,

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Speaker 2: it was a six point two second violation. It was

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Speaker 2: they tried not to. They did all that they could

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Speaker 2: down to an actual rating. It was more than six seconds.

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Speaker 2: So the officiating last night may not have been great

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Speaker 2: in something that we can get into, but at least

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Speaker 2: in that call, if you're gonna have a five to

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Speaker 2: call it. And that's what happened last night and seconds.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny too. And this is what I

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Speaker 3: would teach all my inbounders. I was the guy a

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Speaker 3: have to count, so I would tell the referees, hey,

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Speaker 3: one thousand and one, one thousand and two, like, I'd

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Speaker 3: it thinks to see that. But that's why at this

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Speaker 3: look like all these different scenarios you really have to

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Speaker 2: I I'm just curious. I'm actually not doing this for

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Speaker 2: yelling it out, are you saying one one thousand or

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Speaker 2: are you just yelling one two like or one banana?

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Speaker 1: Whatever? It is?

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Speaker 1: Never one banana, two banana three manna.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, nobody says banana. If you count every kid

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Speaker 3: didn't play street football, right if the car coastal, you

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Speaker 3: go car time or you go one Mississippi.

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Speaker 2: Two Mississippi Mississippi. Okay, that's fine, I'm good. I'm not

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Speaker 2: the only one. I need a survey. Ryan Bursing or

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Speaker 2: Chris Perphett have you ever counted one banana too banana?

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Speaker 1: I personally have never counted banana.

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Speaker 2: But I've heard okay, you've heard my god, nod a friend.

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Speaker 5: I've had a friend who've done banana, but I've always

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Speaker 5: done Mississippi myself.

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Speaker 2: Mississippi is four syllables one one thousand is three, just

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Speaker 2: like banana is.

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Speaker 3: Well, how about this may be a better question. Is

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Speaker 3: it a cultural thing? What culture will we say this is?

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Speaker 2: This is like Minnesota? What do they do duck duck

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Speaker 2: like goose? No, they do like duck duck like red

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Speaker 2: doesn't do duck duck goose, but they play a different game.

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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, Isaac, you do one banana too banana?

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Speaker 2: Anybody does banana?

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Speaker 1: No, nobody does. I'm at least they've heard of it.

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Speaker 3: How how old were you you playing with?

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Speaker 2: Look this this is nineteen eighties. It's just the syllables,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollinds, That's all it is.

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Speaker 1: That's all that it is. I did one thousand, which

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Speaker 1: is the same it is.

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Speaker 2: Several thousand, two thousand. Yeah, one banana, two banana, three man. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's and then you know on ten, then you can

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Speaker 2: rush the quarterback when you're playing touch football. But never never,

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Speaker 2: apparently Ryan Hollins has never, but at least yeah, crickets.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's maybe it's a geographical thing.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: As this said, the Minisota plays a different game than

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Speaker 2: duck duck goose, But I don't know what it is

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Speaker 2: because I'm not from Minnesota. But it's like duck duck,

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Speaker 2: red duck or something like that. Anyway, all right, moving on,

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Speaker 2: would you say one Mississippi or one one thousand when

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Speaker 3: Nah, just loudly yell out one obnoxiously probably even two,

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Speaker 3: So you get on the ball, sit in your inbounder's

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Speaker 3: But hats off in that situation for Golden State because

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Speaker 3: you know, it's funny when I saw dan I don't

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Speaker 2: It was Yeah, it was crazy. Grizzlies needed a three

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Speaker 2: point line. Jaron Jackson, I think it was the biggest

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Speaker 2: the basketball. But you've obviously got Lukenard out there, Desmond

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Speaker 2: social media. I can't be the only one at Dan

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Speaker 2: Byer on Fox. And let the Ryan Hollins know. At

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Speaker 2: the Ryan Hollins, it's just thche on the Ryan Hollins,

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Speaker 2: but we'll call it the Ryan Hollins for the sake

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Speaker 2: of this radio show. Yeah, there's Mississippi. There's one, one thousand.

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Speaker 2: There's also banana. I'm telling you there is. It's three.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if canlope or any other three. You know,

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Speaker 2: syllable vegetable of fruit would work. But I just remember banana.

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Speaker 2: You could say really fast and then get after the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: The five second call last night not the only questionable

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Speaker 2: call in the game.

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Speaker 1: There were a bunch of them.

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Speaker 2: But that's where when I start out the show and say,

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Speaker 2: if everybody's getting screwed, how can you really be mad?

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Speaker 2: I know that the Grizzlies fans are saying foul on

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler. Scottie Pippen Jr. Never touched him. The Pajenski

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Speaker 2: block on Scotty Pippen Jr. On his steal that was

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Speaker 2: ultimately called a foul in that situation, so Brandon got

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Speaker 1: That's what it is.

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Speaker 2: the never heard.

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Speaker 1: Of it, never heard of it?

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Speaker 2: But that's okay because we have in and out there.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: He's Ryan Hollins and them up at the Ryan Hollins

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Speaker 2: and let him know, yes, is it one one thousand

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Speaker 2: or not? Here on Cavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer. We are in for the guys as

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Speaker 2: they were in for the Herd earlier today. You can

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Speaker 2: find me at Dan Byer on Fox on X and

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Speaker 2: reach out that way. The Oklahoma City Thunder are the

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Speaker 2: number one overall seed in the Western Conference.

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Speaker 1: What are they?

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Speaker 2: The actual underdogs when it comes to the playoffs. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk about it next year. On Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: Tom and Rich Here on Wednesday and Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 1: He's the NBA vet.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins, also the analyst for the Houston Rockets television network.

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Speaker 2: Is the Rockets get ready for a showdown with the

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Speaker 2: Warriors in the first round of the NBA Playoffs. It'll

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Speaker 2: be the final game of the Saturday Sunday Game one schedule.

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Speaker 2: It's the late game on Sunday, not topping off until

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Speaker 2: nine to thirty Eastern time to fit all those other

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Speaker 2: games in on the Sunday schedule. At the end of

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Speaker 2: the show, I'm going to tell you what the schedule

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Speaker 2: actually means for these series, because Ryan Hollins, it tells

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Speaker 2: you a lot on on where you actually play in

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Speaker 2: those eight windows and what the league thinks of you

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Speaker 2: as a team or what the league thinks of the series.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna break that down coming up at the

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Speaker 2: end of the show. Plus we'll have your breakdown of

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Speaker 2: tonight's other playing games. Heat in Chicago to face the

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Speaker 2: Bulls while the Sacramento Kings are home to the Dallas Mavericks. Now,

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Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City Thunder had the best record in the

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Speaker 2: NBA this year. They're the top overall seed in the

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Speaker 2: Western Conference playoffs and they outdistanced your Rockets by sixteen games.

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Speaker 2: That was the gap between the top seed and the

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Speaker 2: second seed in the Western Conference is Oklahoma City went

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Speaker 2: sixty eight and fourteen. Is there any chance that this

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Speaker 2: team could be an underdog.

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Speaker 3: For the same reasons. People like to go with what

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Speaker 3: they are comfortable with, and they wouldn't be an underdog

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Speaker 3: in these first or second rounds. That's not the question.

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Speaker 3: But when you say they're coming out of the Western Conference,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that are going to say,

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Speaker 3: how would they get past the Lakers? A lot of

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Speaker 3: people are the Lakers as favorites. Heck, a lot of

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Speaker 3: people with e eve than what they saw last night,

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Speaker 3: and looks can be deceiving, and let's give Memphis a

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Speaker 3: lot more credit than they deserve. They've been in these

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Speaker 3: situations before. They haven't won, but they're a little more

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Speaker 3: seasoned than they get credit for. A lot of people

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Speaker 3: our favorite in Golden State to come out to West

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Speaker 3: are saying they wouldn't be surprised if they had enough

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Speaker 3: people are comfortable with names, So is it fair to

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Speaker 3: say they're underdogs?

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Speaker 1: Dan?

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Speaker 3: I don't think you're crazy when I hear it, and

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Speaker 3: I understand it. For me, I don't believe it, though, Brother.

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Speaker 2: I yeah, the record is tough to move past. I

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Speaker 2: also think that just their history is tough to move

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Speaker 2: past because here's when we look at Oklahoma City and

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Speaker 2: when we remember them being at the top or near

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Speaker 2: the top of the game, it was when Kevin Durant

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Speaker 2: and Russell Westbrook were teammates. And then we know Kevin

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Speaker 2: Durant left via free agency, and the thunder really never

502
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Speaker 2: were the same, at least the same to that level.

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Speaker 2: Like there's a difference from a fifty five a sixty

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Speaker 2: win season, you know, to you know, a to a

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Speaker 2: forty win season or like this season sixty eight because

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Speaker 2: when they were going to the NBA Finals, when they

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Speaker 2: were doing their their thing in the in the early

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Speaker 2: twenty teams twenty yeah, twenty eleven, twenty twelve, in those

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Speaker 2: seasons sixty wins the year they went to the finals,

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Speaker 2: remember it was a lockout year, they still won forty

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Speaker 2: seven games in that sixty six game season. They won

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Speaker 2: fifty nine the next year, and then they ended up

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Speaker 2: winning fifty five in what was Kevin Durant's last season there,

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Speaker 2: and then you had a string of forty win seasons

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Speaker 2: with Russell Westbrook and then Westbrook's gone, Chris Paul comes in,

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Speaker 2: and then ultimately they bought them out. The reason I

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Speaker 2: bring that up is because the bottom wasn't as long

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Speaker 2: as we thought. Like, remember the process in Philadelphia seemed

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Speaker 2: to take like five years.

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Speaker 1: It did, it did not. For Oklahoma City. There are

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Speaker 1: only two.

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Speaker 2: Seasons they had of twenty win seasons where they were

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Speaker 2: one of the worst teams in the Western Conference. It

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Speaker 2: was in the twenty twenty twenty one season and the

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Speaker 2: twenty one to twenty two season. Then they end up

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Speaker 2: bouncing back getting into the play in a few years ago,

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Speaker 2: then last year number one overall seed, and then now

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Speaker 2: the sixty eight wins and best record in the entire NBA.

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Speaker 2: But they didn't do it in just getting the first

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Speaker 2: overall pick every single year. You know, like there's they

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Speaker 2: make the brilliant trade to get SGA. They are able

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Speaker 2: to land chet Holmgrin. Their drafting of Jalen Williams has

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Speaker 2: been significant. He's an all star caliber player. They make

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Speaker 2: a move for Alex Caruso this offseason, plus the other

535
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Speaker 2: pieces that they fit in, it's not just a we're

536
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Speaker 2: gonna have four top five picks. Sure it helps helps

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Speaker 2: nice to have chet Holmgrin on your team, but they

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Speaker 2: didn't build it that way, and now they've got that

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Speaker 2: treasure trove of chests. Moving forward, then I think it's

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Speaker 2: going to be difficult to really look at them if

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Speaker 2: they have any sort of success at ever being an

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Speaker 2: underdog for the next decade. But I think at this point,

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Speaker 2: I still think they're the team that was jilted by Durant.

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Speaker 2: I think they're the team that then fell off when

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Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook left and then the team that was able

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Speaker 2: to build up from the ground. And I think people

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Speaker 2: will like that. So they may not be underdogs, but

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Speaker 2: they are a team that you want to cheer for.

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Speaker 2: And when you see what they do in their postgame

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Speaker 2: interviews and the regional network and how they gather around

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Speaker 2: as a team and have fun with the reporter, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot to like about them. So they may not

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Speaker 2: be underdogs, but I think they're going to be the

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Speaker 2: team that people like in these NBA playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can definitely agree to that. And here's what

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Speaker 3: you got to understand, also, Dan, they got better. A

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Speaker 3: team that was already good got better. And when I

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Speaker 3: see what Mark Dagno did this year, they were playing

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Speaker 3: playoff defense already this season. And what do I mean

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Speaker 3: by that. There's a number of adjustments that go into

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Speaker 3: playoff basketball. Okay, you're gonna guard this guy for the

562
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: jump shot. This guy, we're gonna double team on the block.

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00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: Their IQ defensively is off the charts. There was nobody

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Speaker 3: else remotely close in the NBA that was young enough

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Speaker 3: to get out and pressure the basketball and make the

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Speaker 3: plays that Oklahoma City made. So when I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma City, I've seen it up close and personal. They

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Speaker 3: have enough defenders. They pressure you, they get up and

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Speaker 3: down the court, and you can argue and say, you know, like, well,

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Speaker 3: hey they got Shay who else is gonna beat you

571
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Speaker 3: other than SGA. They've got a lot of guys that

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Speaker 3: are willing to step up and beat you. Again, you

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Speaker 3: can argue, maybe the second option isn't there, and I

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Speaker 3: would say, yeah, Jayalen Williams is gonna have to show

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Speaker 3: you that he's that guy at the at the end

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Speaker 3: of the day. But even beyond that, defensively, I think

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Speaker 3: they can really get out and give you a run

578
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Speaker 3: for your money. Now here's the reason that my Rockets

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Speaker 3: matched up with them. Well, they got a big that

580
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Speaker 3: scores inside. In the Western Conference, all the bigs are

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Speaker 3: essentially picking pop bigs are not really dominant bigs on

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Speaker 3: the blocks where Steven Adams can out rebound you, he's

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Speaker 3: really big. Shingoon can score on the paint, and you

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Speaker 3: got to pick your poison in those aspects. But here's

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Speaker 3: the thing. You'd have who and they'll probably see him

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Speaker 3: the first round. You'd have some bonus, right, You'd have

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Speaker 3: Anthony Davis with the Mavericks, those two getting ready to

588
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Speaker 3: face off, and you'll see them in the first round.

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Speaker 3: But other than that that, Houston's the only other team

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Speaker 3: in the Western Conference with a big. And if you

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Speaker 3: come out the East, it's likely going to be Boston,

592
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Speaker 3: who doesn't do anything inside. They play a three point game.

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Speaker 2: They swept the Grizzlies this year. So it ends up

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Speaker 2: being Memphis. It's got to be a matchup that Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: City would like to have. They've had great success over

596
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Speaker 2: Memphis over these past couple of seasons. It's all lining up.

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Speaker 2: They have to get to the NBA Finals. Otherwise the

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Speaker 2: narratives I think not going to change. I don't even

599
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Speaker 2: think the conference finals will do enough considering how great

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Speaker 2: they were this season. You've got to get out of

601
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Speaker 2: the West to make it to that NBA finals for

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Speaker 2: And Rich here at Fox Sports Radio on Wednesday. I'm

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Speaker 2: Dan Byer. He's the NBA vet. Ryan Hollins also the

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Speaker 2: television analyst for the Houston Rockets broadcast. They'll start their

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Speaker 2: playoff series coming up on Sunday. You guys only do

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Speaker 2: first round right like then the Rockets advance and it's

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Speaker 2: just strictly network.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct? How it usually plays out, Ryan Hollins, this.

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Speaker 3: Is my last opportunity ever unless I do some national

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Speaker 3: broadcasts ever, because the with the new deal, to my understanding,

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Speaker 3: the regional networks will no longer have the rights because

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Speaker 3: with the new deal, they're paying a lot of money

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Speaker 3: for these national rights. So they're like, hey, we exclusively

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Speaker 3: want the first rounds.

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Speaker 1: So oh man, so last time for the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: And thanks to Golden State winning, I've just lost the

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Speaker 3: least minimum one game we will not be doing. I

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Speaker 3: think game three goes to ABC.

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Speaker 1: Sure. Interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as a well, I'm sorry, I tell you what.

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Speaker 2: You may not know this as a Bucks fan. Okay,

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Speaker 2: as a Bucks fan. One of this is a true story.

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Speaker 1: I'm not lying to you.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to this also later on the show,

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Speaker 2: but I have to tell you now. One of their

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Speaker 2: games against the Pacers is on ESPN. U. I am,

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Speaker 2: I am, I am, I am not lying one hundred percent,

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Speaker 2: not lying. Scouts are on are gear. It is on ESPNU,

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Speaker 2: so amazing. Just go to Friday check. I think it's

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Speaker 2: Friday game three Bucks Pacers. Check it out in Milwaukee. ESPNU.

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Speaker 2: That's that's where it is, all right, Yes.

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Speaker 1: I know it was.

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Speaker 2: I know it was the series destined for NBA TV,

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Speaker 2: and that was not a shock. But it's it may

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Speaker 2: be like even a simulcast of NBA TV and ESPNU, but.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'd rather take that ESPNU coverage.

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Speaker 2: Oh Man, So Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter are going

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Speaker 2: to have their jerseys retired by UH Colorado and no

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Speaker 2: one will be able to wear the twelve of Travis

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Speaker 2: Hunter or the two of Shador Sanders again at Colorado

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Speaker 2: if that's that's how they choose to retire numbers. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: schools will honor previous players put a patch on it.

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Speaker 2: Michigan used to do that with their football players, like

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Speaker 2: did have great players of the past. But if you

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Speaker 2: wore that number, you'd be able to continue to wear

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Speaker 2: that number, honoring the player that first wore it. And

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Speaker 2: then last night was it was Jackie Robinson Day in

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, so every player in Major League Baseball

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Speaker 2: wore the number forty two. I went to the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: game last night where they played the Colorado Rockies. Everyone

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Speaker 2: was number forty two. Not only that, the scoreboard at

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Speaker 2: Dodgers Stadium during every at bat of every player had

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Speaker 2: a stat about Jackie Robinson, magnificent way to honor the

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Speaker 2: player that broke the color barrier in Major League baseball.

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Speaker 2: In fact, they couldn't do enough, and they did a

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Speaker 2: great job last night. But I feel like those are

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Speaker 2: the two ends of the spectrum that we're talking about here,

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Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins, when we talk about retiring jersey numbers, there's

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Speaker 2: the Jackie Robinson forty two that no one in the

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Speaker 2: entire league is ever going to wear. And then you

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Speaker 2: have a two year stop for Travis Hunter and Shoudoor

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Speaker 2: Sanders on their way to the NFL from Jackson State

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Speaker 2: after Deon takes the job in Boulder and one ball

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Speaker 2: appearance Travis Hunter. I am copletely on board with, and

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Speaker 2: I think most people are a Heisman Trophy winner. Absolutely

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Speaker 2: more people are questioning should or Sanders. I'm actually not

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Speaker 2: questioning whether they should have it retired or not. My

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Speaker 2: question is do we need to actually put standards in

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Speaker 2: to do this, because I look at what Colorado is doing.

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Speaker 2: Ryan is saying it's almost a recruiting tool or a

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Speaker 2: way to try to get the best players if you're

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Speaker 2: a transfer. Look, they just retired two transfers numbers that

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Speaker 2: will now be hanging near the sidelines in Boulder at

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Speaker 2: folsom Field. There's a reason why if you were to

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Speaker 2: bring in a transfer and say, hey, that could be you.

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Speaker 2: People say that if you don't go to a school

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Speaker 2: for four years, you're not gonna have that true you know,

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Speaker 2: former school experience that others have had. Here's your opportunity

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Speaker 2: to not only come and help us win football games,

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Speaker 2: but have your piece with this new alma mater. I'm

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Speaker 2: all for it that way, but I just wonder do

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Speaker 2: we need to put in standards when we're retiring numbers.

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Speaker 3: Men lie, women lie. Numbers don't lie. If you look

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Speaker 3: at the numbers that Shouldure brought in and Hunter brought in,

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Speaker 3: there's nothing comparable. Hey, there's nothing comparable to what those

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Speaker 3: guys have done for Colorado. They brought in so much money,

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Speaker 3: so much notoriety. And Dan, I'm gonna give you some credit.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: You hit it right on the head. Colorado is getting

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Speaker 3: with the times and they understand here, Hey, this is

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Speaker 3: what these new kids are listening to. Even in the NBA,

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Speaker 3: the teams are understanding, hold on the players like this.

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Speaker 3: They don't like this, Oh if we do this, They're out. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we gotta get with the times. Sure, the way that

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Speaker 3: we grew up dan maybe may have been different culturally.

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Speaker 3: You counted Bananas, I counted Mississippi, but it's completely different. Then.

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Speaker 3: The way that these kids are being brought up there.

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Speaker 2: Differ as well. For the sake of usually we don't

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Speaker 2: see like a transfer like with college. It's usually a

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Speaker 2: four or five year career. And and Travis Hunter made

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Speaker 2: the most of his two years there, and to your point,

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Speaker 2: so did shaud Or Sanders. And to my point, when

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Speaker 2: Dion got his contract a couple of weeks ago, I

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Speaker 2: actually still thought he was underpaid, even though he's making

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Speaker 2: you know, ten million dollars a year because of what

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Speaker 2: he's done the change around the program. So if that's

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Speaker 2: gonna make Deon happy, if Dion wants to do that,

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Speaker 2: or Dion thinks it's good for the program, then you

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Speaker 2: probably should do it. You're probably going to do it.

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Speaker 2: I actually don't have a problem with it. And you're

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Speaker 2: talking to a guy who's been a college football fan

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Speaker 2: for my entire life. I understand the history for as

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Speaker 2: long as I've been alive and try to appreciate it

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Speaker 2: even before I was born. But I just I don't

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Speaker 2: have a problem with this. At some point later on,

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Speaker 2: if somebody wants to wear two, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: If there's a five star quarterback that says I want

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Speaker 2: to wear two, Dion's gonna say, hey, Shaudor, let him

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Speaker 2: wear your number two so we can bring them to Boulder.

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Speaker 2: It's not that big of a deal. He's Ryan Hollins,

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer. Yes, hey, just like you'd wear let

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Speaker 2: what somebody were fifteen. That's what you were at UCLA.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that right?

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Speaker 3: Esp worn right? Now?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right. Ryan's been to a lot of games.

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Speaker 2: I went one to went to one last night. What's

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Speaker 2: the happy medium that's next,