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I'm 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:29.520 Erica and I'm Mela. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.000 Happy Wednesday, Happy Humpday, my people. 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:34.440 How's it going. 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:39.399 It's going amazing. I'm feeling really good. How's it going 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:40.759 over there in my love I'm good. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:45.120 I'm feeling refreshed. I'm back in ghetto America. But I'm 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:49.760 still in the retreat state of mind. Yeah, so I'm good. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:56.200 Same. Do you have an Actually I have an affirmation? 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:57.960 Sure, go for it. 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:04.280 My affirmation is I am safe and I am secure 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:05.360 because of me. 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:11.000 I am safe and I am secure because of me. 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:13.600 We did. 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.480 We had a moment with that in Costa Rica. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.600 We had a lot of moments in Costa Rica. So 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:22.359 I don't know if you guys are just joining us 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:26.400 on this journey, but Eric and I have had some 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.079 milestones recently. We had a two hunchredth episode a couple 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.480 of weeks ago. We're coming up on our four year 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:38.400 anniversary next week, and we recently just got hot off 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.880 the plane from Costa Rica where we hosted our first 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:52.760 two retreats, and wow, fucking wow, I really I have. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:59.880 I've had such a magical experience that exceeded my expectations 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.600 so much it's really been kind of difficult to put 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:07.520 into words, just how fucking amazing of a time we had. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.120 But one of the things that came up a lot 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.840 during this time is just reminding ourselves that we have 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:23.040 created safety and security because of us. Yeah. So we 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.920 went to Costa Rica and. 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.520 Changed people's lives, Yeah, including our own. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:32.079 Yeah. 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:35.720 Yeah. I think we had this grand idea to have 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.040 these trips, to host these trips for women, and we 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:40.880 had an idea of what we wanted to look like, 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.480 but like, in all transparency, Eric and I have never 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.240 either of us been to retreat, so we kind of 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:47.680 were like, this is what I think it should be like, 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:52.800 and we curated all these things, but what we actually 0:03:52.840 --> 0:04:01.480 experienced was so fucking magical, And which I think the 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:07.760 thing is is that we knew that collectively, women harness power, 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:13.760 but I don't think we've ever experienced women harnessing power 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:18.360 in this close contact, in this like open space, in 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:22.120 this magical place at like one time. And I don't 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.479 know if I've cried more ever in a two week span. 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.400 I've definitely cried more, but it was out of sorrow, 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.760 tears of purity, tears of joy. I've never cried this 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.440 much out of happiness ever in my life, not even 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:40.080 not having a baby, and that feels I feel bad 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.760 about that, but also I don't but because I did 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.800 this just like birthing a baby that I don't know, 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:50.640 like I think that me and Mila had some idea 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.760 what we were doing. And I'm actually glad we've never 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:54.359 been to a retreat because we were actually planning on 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.440 trying to go to one before we did this. But 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.440 I'm glad that we didn't because we really had no 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:04.520 like you said, expectation for per se also kind of 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:08.000 created whatever the fuck we wanted to create, and because 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.279 we didn't have a lot of expectation, we allowed space 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:12.120 for it to just kind of manifest in the way 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.880 that it was going to Both groups because we had 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:20.080 two retreats were totally different, and I don't know, like, 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.279 so the first retreat we had, we had a we 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.760 had like one really good friend there. Anie shut out 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.880 to Nishe and actually talked to her yesterday and I 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:29.560 was telling her that, you know, when me and Mila 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:33.120 were talking about retreat one and how we didn't really 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.640 realize it, but her being there kind of offered like 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.400 a sense of security for us in ways, knowing that 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.560 there was someone in the room that like we knew 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.000 there was kind of like half our back. Well you 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:44.240 know what. 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.000 Initially I was like, I don't I didn't think too 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.000 much about it, but I was like, I thought it 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:50.800 was going to be harder because someone we knew was 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.880 going to be in the room because she knows us. 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:53.680 And she's gonna be like bitch. 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:58.440 But it ended up actually being like such a such 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:02.359 a comfort and such a indication that things were going okay. 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.080 Like if she was okay, I'm like, oh, okay, so 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:04.919 it's going okay. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.400 Well, she's my most curated friend, so she's she's high 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:13.080 expectations for us like this, then we're doing good. Yeah. 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:18.159 But I think that we put so much time and 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:23.160 you know, effort into curating this experience that every second 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.920 up until the very second it began, we were like this, 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:28.640 do we get this? We had to take six fucking 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.160 luggages to Costa Rica, and not just the Costa Rica, 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.839 but de Porto Viejo, which is five hours from the airport, 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.600 so there was a lot of moving pieces to this 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.479 to this event. Obviously, each week we had over twenty 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.600 women and we were just really focused on it going 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:48.560 smoothly and everything getting there and so we I don't 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:50.560 think we put that much thought into how it was 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:54.880 going to play out. And there we only had less 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.479 than twenty four hours between each retreat, which is crazy, 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:03.000 but we had all this angst when they'm getting there. 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:06.240 They you know, we heard they arrived in San Jose, 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.039 which is five hours away. We heard that the bus 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.840 was leaving. We were like, we felt their energy getting closer. 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:15.440 We had been on this resort by ourselves, and then 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.640 they came and then I was like, oh my god, 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.200 there's people here that we don't know. 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.080 Oh God, they're here. They've traveled a long distance. 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.600 I hope that we've They're going to like get everything 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:27.280 that they expect. And like, one thing about Erica and 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.960 I is that we talk often, you know, and we 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.400 know that people are listening, and we know that we're 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.000 affecting people with our words. But this is the first 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:40.200 time we've seen it in intangible form this way, and 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:45.080 it's it was It's fucking it was amazing. One of 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:48.120 the things that like really set the tone for me 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.960 is on the day day one, everyone comes in, they 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:52.680 get roomed. 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:54.560 We had some fine niggas there. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.679 Oiled down because it's us and that's what we would 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.960 expect and what so we shout out to Gilly, shout 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.800 out to Gilly the God and organic Zach. 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.520 We hired the finest men in Puerto to be oiled 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:10.280 down in ladies, sweep and pass out joints and light 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.080 them for all the ladies upon arrival, and also give 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:16.080 shoulder and head massages to all the ladies while we 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.400 went through you know, some of the rules, not rules, 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.440 but just things they should know before going into their 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:23.120 rooms and getting their roommates. 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:27.560 One of the biggest rules of the retreat was no apologizing. 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:31.400 We took that from mel and like the most beautiful 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:32.880 thing is, we took a lot of things from a 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.800 lot of our experiences, a lot of our interviews, and 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.160 we put implemented them in this retreat and it was 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:43.359 fucking amazing. But after that we had a group musical 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.600 massage in the yoga shalla. It was a night experience 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.760 that I don't think me and Erica really we had 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:55.200 never experienced this, but Alessandra, the owner of Sonora, really 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.280 reassured us that we should let this ride and just 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.640 do it. And I'm really glad she did. So we 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.360 all join under this open air yoga shalla in the 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.160 middle of the jungle that's lit by candles, and there 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:12.200 was maybe like seven practitioners all wearing white, and a 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:17.640 live drummer and live musicians playing, and the people came 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:22.559 around randomly and played different interestment instruments close to our faces, 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:26.400 gongs on our bellies, we had, we experienced head massages 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:27.360 and feet rubs. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.640 It was basically like sensual musical therapy. 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:36.800 And as soon as it began, it started to drizzle immediately, 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.480 so we all kind of rush into the yoga shaala 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.520 and pitch black outside. You hear the noises of nature, 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.840 only crickets and you know, all the all of the 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:53.040 wildlife in the jungle, and about twenty minutes in it 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:58.040 just begins to pour. And for some reason, I just 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.960 like all the hairs on my arms stood up because 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.200 it just felt like the jungle was letting us know 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.480 that they knew we were here, and they were like 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.040 they were opening their arms to us. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.640 It just felt super magical. I'm like, damn, what the fuck. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:13.880 It was like hot, not raining at all, and then 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.720 boom poores and then as soon as the massage ended 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.680 ended no rain. So like that was the first indication 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.360 that like we were in synchronicity with nature, and this 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:30.120 retreat was like about to be more mystical than I 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.560 think we had accounted for. For me, that's what I 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:33.800 was thinking while I was laying there. 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.080 For sure, I mean I felt the same I felt 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.000 the same way. I think that, and I think that 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:42.720 nature continued to show us that throughout the retreat, you know, 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:47.400 being in Costa Rica and you know, doing this retreat. 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.600 I think also we really began to understood how feminine 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:55.160 the space is, just that the jungle is a woman, 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:59.160 that mother Nature obviously is a woman. Ocean, all the 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.320 water around us. There was a lot of feminine energy, 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:06.400 and I think that's why, unbeknownst to me, why I 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.720 felt why I do feel so connected to Costa Rica. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.400 But now it makes more sense really understanding that, and 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.800 it makes perfect sense, and it is a testament to 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.400 me and Mila's alignment and all the things that we 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:21.800 do that that is exactly the perfect place for this retreat, 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.319 and it was the perfect space for this retreat, especially 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:30.720 obviously being a woman's retreat and just knowing to after 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:34.920 the first retreat was over, just how important it is 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.400 for women to come together how important it is for 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:42.240 women to really tap into that femininity in a way 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.440 that feels safe, that has nothing to do with the 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:49.080 masculine at all. And I think that kind of that 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:52.160 theme just kept showing up, even by accident, even like 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.559 going to the Breebrie, which is like an indigenous is 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.480 the indigenous land in Costa Rica, which was our date 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.040 was that day three experience. Yeah, and learning about their 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:04.320 culture and how you know, how they revere the woman 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.080 and their culture, which I had no idea. I just 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.240 think like the sacred feminine just kept coming up over 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:14.280 and over and over, even without us being intentional about it. 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.600 Yeah, And I think not only just the sacred feminine, 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.400 but like you said, being in an environment that is 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:25.200 very feminine. I think we submitted to the elements a 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:27.160 lot during this retreat, and I don't think that was 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.360 even very much intentional, Like obviously we knew were like 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.760 come to the jungle and take off your shoes. 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:33.160 But I think that. 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.800 Us just being in flow with the elements, with the fire, 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.040 with the water, with the earth, with the ocean. Like, 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:44.760 I think that giving women the opportunity to not only 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:48.520 let down their guard, but to be amongst women that 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.000 they could trust and feel safe with and to be 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:55.360 in flow with the with the land. You know, there 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:59.439 was no time like the welcome speech was welcome bitches, 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.520 you're in the j and there's going to be bugs 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:02.440 and animals and shit. 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:03.160 Get used to it. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.200 There's no flushing shit down the toilet, you know, like 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.000 it really, you know, in America, we're so hustle bustle, 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:14.440 we're so wearing shoes, were so really wound up tightly 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.640 that we forget that we are a product of our environment, 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.200 we're a product of the earth, and that we kind 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.520 of have to like remove all that shit to kind 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:23.599 of get back to ourselves. 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:24.400 And it was. 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.480 It was really that, you know, there's a lot of 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:32.120 naked dancing, there's a lot of skinny dipping. It was 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:36.640 a lot of howling at the moon that was on 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:41.840 my request. There was a lot of just freedom, I 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:45.280 think I felt. I never I never realized how much 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:49.679 women really need as safe space to just be women 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:53.640 without the gaze of judgment of a man of judgment, 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:57.400 just to be naked and free, without being like, oh, 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.520 you're doing that for attention or you just want to 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.319 be naked. It was really like, oh, look at her. 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.440 It was really just like, come and do whatever the 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.439 fuck you want, this is the place to do it. 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:11.040 And I didn't realize that. During our journey, Eric and 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.760 I have really given each other permission to be ourselves 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:22.960 and that has really pushed the podcast, just being transparent 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.920 and feeling safe within each other. But when we opened 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.720 up that space to the women to also feel safe 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.840 and just come as they. 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.200 Were, it like magic happened. 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:40.640 Like a collective women collectively opening up and saying I'm 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:42.840 willing to be vulnerable and I'm here open, I don't 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:47.240 know anyone else here. Something really magical happened. I think 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.320 when we're open to the experiences and we just let 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:54.600 our guards down as women, when you're in alignment, you 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.880 allow the magic to come in. And that really showed 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:58.040 up for us in this retreat. 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.880 For sure. I think that I just want to shout 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:05.320 out all the ladies who came out from both retreats, 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:08.480 Retreat one and Retreat two. You guys are og retreaters 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:14.680 and I fucking love them. I fucking liething. We love 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.800 all of you, and we had such an incredible time 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:23.040 and I'm so incredibly proud of you guys. Because most 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:26.120 of you came alone, which honestly, I don't know if 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.720 I would have the balls to do. Now I do 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.960 because I'm like wow, And that's something that I've learned 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.160 from them, is like, Wow, look out, look at all 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.080 these women that just said, fuck it, I'm gonna take 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.360 a chance. I'm going to go to the jungle. I'm 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.880 going to fly into San Jose voyage four and a 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:46.000 half hours into the jungle to some jungle retreat center 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.800 with two women I've never met, maybe just listened to 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:50.600 on the podcast. Some of you, some of them don't 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.200 even listen to the podcast, just found us on Instagram 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:57.680 searching Costa Rica and trust that everything is going to 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.080 be okay. And you guys did that, and that shit 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.920 is that shit's amazing. And so I think I think 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.640 that because they came in that way, there was a 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:12.480 level of openness that that that each woman had that 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.680 maybe in any other scenario might not have happened, Like 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.840 if we had a retreat or like a meetup some 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.200 like in New York or something, or like a meetup 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:25.240 somewhere in their city, like the openness wouldn't be that way. 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.920 Even just just the idea too, that you're going to 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.760 be rooming with a stranger, and that you're trusting us 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:33.600 to make the best choice for you. And I think 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.200 that that was something that too. When we were planning 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:40.040 this retreat, I knew that they're coming, like, these women 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.120 are coming because they want to be taken care of 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:43.560 like and I wanted to take care of them. I 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:45.280 wanted them to not have to think too much. I 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.240 wanted us to set the room up properly, you know, 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.080 really be intentional about the people that we pair them with. 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:55.560 And honestly, we don't. I don't want to say I 0:16:55.600 --> 0:17:00.680 don't know how, but the rooming situations were so divine 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:05.480 and a lot of those women are real friends now, 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.240 and so many women came up to me and was like, 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.000 I love my fucking roommate. Oh my god, How did 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.879 you know that I needed this woman? And I was like, 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:13.879 I just me. And when me and Mila were going 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:15.560 you should have seen our room we had, Like it 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.840 was it was like making the band. We like printed 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.160 out all these pictures and were like, okay, so she's 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:24.680 an Aquarius and she's a Gemini, Douteius and Gemini. I 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.760 don't know what about Scorpio Pisces. 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.720 Yep, that's going well, I'm cancer, you're a scorpio, so 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.400 they're probably getting lost. I don't know this age difference 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:33.960 is maybe I don't know that she looks like she 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.959 would like her. But like, just like we trust trust 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:39.959 the process and so much of the things that we do, 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.960 we trusted the process with that and literally spirit came 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:44.920 through and was like yep, yep, yep, yep. And even 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:47.240 where things got a little bit off and things had 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.640 to change last minute, it still was the perfect fit. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.000 And I think too, it was so interesting to see 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.439 how these women showed up and then how they left 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.800 because each and everyone was changed in different even looked 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.320 different physically in different ways. Like there's one woman that 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:05.960 was there who I don't remember how she found us, 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.680 the doctor. I think that she just found us online. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:13.000 I think, yeah, I think she And she's a little 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.639 she's she's religious and she was actually gonna come with 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.520 a friend and her friend was like I read I 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.800 guess read the itinerary and one of the things said 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.520 like self worship dance and she was like, m no, 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.560 like that's not that's not gonna work. I think Mela 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:28.680 even had a call with her, not the friend, but 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.639 had to call with her before she booked, and Meila 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.200 had said, like, yeah, we're gonna do some witchy shit 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.000 or witchy dinner, and She's like, yeah, I probably won't 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.960 be involved in the witchy dinner, and Mila was like, oh, 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.600 not witchy like witch but like magical like night theory. 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:43.240 It's just interesting to know, like, first of all, how 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.280 certain words trigger people and make them like you know, 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.480 make them uncomfortable, which is is good, but also like 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.959 I think was a learning experience to us of like 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.480 how to talk about certain things without putting a bad 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.639 taste in people's mouth and letting them come in and 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.760 see it for themselves so they can better understand what 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:06.119 it means. And that person in particular when she she 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:10.840 was kind of quiet throughout the whole retreat, but at 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:15.400 the end of the retreat, like to see her transformation blowing. 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:19.879 She literally like came in like looking a little like sad, 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:21.120 little tired. 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.800 Just like wound tightly, just like kind of observing, which 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:25.880 is fair. Everyone's like, what the fuck am I getting 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:29.480 myself into? But yeah, like just to see people like 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:31.760 kind of like really blossom and open up in a 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:32.840 way throughout. 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:33.200 The six days. 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.520 And that's the thing I think we realized too. I 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.879 don't think we realized it until it actually took place, 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:42.679 but the entire like, obviously it's relaxing, obviously it's fun, 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:47.480 but we did some real work on these retreats. And 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.640 the work that we did, I would like to say 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:54.680 this was like an intensive therapeutic experience because it wasn't 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.160 just one day or the last day. You know, we 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:01.159 did work every almost every day. They were workshops and 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:02.280 not in a way that felt like you had to 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:04.439 do homework, but it was just like spiritual work. It 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:06.320 was self work, it was work of reflecting, it was 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:09.840 a work of releasing. And I hadn't realized how much 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.760 women need to release. We hold so much in. You know, 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:16.520 we're responsible for so many people, respond we have so 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.880 many responsibilities. We've all experienced a lot of pain. We've 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:28.560 all experienced hurt, disappointment, just loss, and there's rarely a 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:31.800 space where you can just release that, you know, and 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:33.280 not have to worry about how you look or if 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.159 you're doing too much or you know, what it feels 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:38.960 like or so I felt like we were given this 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:43.520 unique opportunity to mother women and give them the tools 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:44.679 to mother themselves. 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:47.720 And it really was an. 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:53.320 Intensive, therapeutic week long vacation and it was beautiful. 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.160 It was really beautiful. I also, I guess I didn't 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:58.919 I think I know this just based on the podcast 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:05.160 how well I've gotten this feeling, but it really became clear. 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:07.040 And I think I had this conversation with you a 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.960 few times throughout the retreat, is that women don't trust women, 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:15.360 and women a lot of these women like we get 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:16.959 hit up all the time when we talk about like, 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.120 you know, build your tribe and women saying I don't 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:20.720 have a tribe in my city, Like I don't know 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:22.680 how to find a tribe, I don't know how to begin, 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:26.200 I don't have my Rika Tomaimila. I don't fuck with bitches, 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:30.760 I don't fuck with I don't fuck with women. And 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:33.760 we had a few of those on the retreat. And 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:38.400 I think that women need permission for first of all, 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:40.679 women need permission period for some reason. I mean not 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:42.920 not for some reason because society makes us feel that way, 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:46.120 but like women need permission to release. But I think 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:49.600 women needed the people that came on this retreat, I 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:53.600 feel like really needed to re instill their trust in women, 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:55.760 and I think that that's what this retreat did for 0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:58.000