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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move to stacks.

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Speaker 2: DJ Bucky with you on a recap Monday, Buck. It

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Speaker 2: was a week where the Jags. You've got to buy right,

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Speaker 2: So you got nothing going on on your end, I've

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Speaker 2: got a Monday night or I mean, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 2: honest with you. I caught a nap yesterday. I watched

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Speaker 2: a lot of ball and then I caught it. It

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Speaker 2: was like unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: So so it's strategically when when did you take the nap?

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Speaker 3: Did you take the nap after the one? After the

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Speaker 3: morning game? So you came to the late games? Okay,

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Speaker 3: you got there a little late. I was a little

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Speaker 1: Hour nap.

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Speaker 2: It was nothing too much, just the hour nap. By

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Speaker 2: the way, if you're noticing, yes, Indiana did lose. Yes

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Speaker 2: rhtt Lewis is not on. He needed a sick day.

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Speaker 2: He needed a sick day after the loss. It was

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Speaker 2: a little trouble. So he caught in. He caught his

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Speaker 2: sick today. So yeah, he caught his sick. Hopefully he's

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Speaker 2: recovered by Lady new week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a wellness day.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a little much, though, I mean

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Speaker 2: for the bosses to send out the counseling hotline to him,

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Speaker 2: you know, on the group.

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Speaker 1: A lot happened. I was worried about him.

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Speaker 2: I think this was actually scheduled, believe it or not.

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Speaker 2: So Red'll be back. We'll have a rookie draft coming up.

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Speaker 2: That'll be tomorrow. We had a lot of games to

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Speaker 2: get to the back, and I want to start, first

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Speaker 2: of all, what we saw last night, and that was

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say JV Varsity. That's insulting to

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Speaker 2: the Rams. And I don't think this was as much

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Speaker 2: right with the Philadelphia Eagles. And I want to get

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Speaker 2: of these teams that are that are winning right now

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Speaker 2: and playing good football and chasing a championship. It is

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Speaker 2: a blend of speed and power. It is having explosiveness

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Speaker 2: but also being a physical team, and no greater example

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Speaker 2: of that than what the Philadelphia Eagles put on display

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Speaker 2: last night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and one percent agreement with you when it comes

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Speaker 3: to that, I think this.

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Speaker 1: I think the Philadelphia Eagles are a great example.

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Speaker 3: The Detroit Lions are another example of how you have

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Speaker 3: to build your team and what we call an ideal way,

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Speaker 3: meaning what is the ideal team that we can build,

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Speaker 3: And it has to have a combination of speed power.

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Speaker 1: You got to be able to I say it all

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Speaker 3: Win with force orphinesse, meaning you can impose your will

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Speaker 3: with the running game, but also have the firepower on

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Speaker 1: Because to win games, you have to be a bit

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Speaker 3: And when you look at the top teams in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's impressive, man. And they are

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Speaker 2: that in regards to Saquon Barkley. You can pull out

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Speaker 3: And it's funny you brought up his Penn State success

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Speaker 1: He can make big plays as a runner.

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Speaker 1: The Rams came out and gashed him.

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Speaker 2: They had a fumble on their first drive, and then

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Speaker 2: came out and moved the ball. Vic Fangio made some

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Speaker 2: this is kind of Philadelphia in their prime right now,

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Speaker 2: which is bully football on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Hate to see the injury to Brandon Graham, they lose

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Speaker 2: in his mid to late thirties, which is pretty remarkable,

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Speaker 1: They've got other pieces. Nolan Smith.

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Speaker 2: That's the na Kobe Dean, the bully play that I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you faced that every day.

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Speaker 3: And even though like pro practices are not like college

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Speaker 1: Help but get some of that.

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Speaker 1: You think about the toughness that.

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Speaker 3: as much as we talk about stylistically how they do it,

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Speaker 1: A long time. They did it with Andy Reid, They've

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Speaker 3: to impose their will. But let me say this, big

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Speaker 3: Fangio coming over, people think that you can't coach today's

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Speaker 1: I disagree. Fangio is a testament to that.

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Speaker 3: People worried about him coming over to Philadelphia after Miami,

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Speaker 3: Siriani gain control of the team and build a different bully.

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Speaker 3: Vig Fangio deserves a lot of credit for what he's

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Speaker 2: Yep, and as we move on to the next one,

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Speaker 2: just real quick on the rams, look the defensive front.

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Speaker 2: Jared Versus was still rushing while Bradon Fisk was still rushing. Well,

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Speaker 2: they have a lot of good pieces. They've got to

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Speaker 2: on San Francisco and how they fell apart. The windows closed?

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Speaker 2: Is Kyle Shanahan. Has he passed his prime? All these

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Speaker 2: That's the first thing. The second thing is, fuck, you

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Speaker 2: that's too much. And McCaffrey, you know, let's give him

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Speaker 2: he got hurt. But to me, this is more about

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Speaker 2: the end of the Niners.

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Speaker 1: Never felt like they were fully together.

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Speaker 3: Now you get into the regular season, with the injuries

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Speaker 1: It's a tough situation.

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Speaker 3: But as you pull out the silver lining, yeah, DJ,

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Speaker 3: They can do it.

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Speaker 1: They got after the quarterback five sacks, he had.

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Speaker 2: Two and a half. Boy, Mafey's getting pressured. They have

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Speaker 1: This team can get after it up front.

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Speaker 2: No, they're playing good football right now. Arizona, Man, they

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Speaker 1: I know San Francisco's.

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Speaker 3: So when we talk about them reeling off a few games,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. DJ.

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Speaker 1: Would totally butcher it, so I won't do that.

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Speaker 1: Like I feel like with the Lions, like.

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Speaker 1: But I went and watched all of his explosives, like,

440
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Speaker 1: how are they utilizing him? What are they doing?

441
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,840
Speaker 2: It is a lot of crossers, deep overs, go routes,

442
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,640
Speaker 2: corner routes, some digs. Like a lot of times when

443
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 2: you look at explosives and leaders, you'll see you think

444
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,080
Speaker 2: about like Tyreek Hill Chiefs or even with the Dolphins.

445
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 2: You'll see some shallow crossers. You'll see some bubble screens,

446
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,160
Speaker 2: You'll see different things where it's just catch and run. Buck,

447
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 2: he is down the field, man like he is literally

448
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 2: the definition of a stretch receiver. And man, think about

449
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 2: the value that has not only for Jared Goff with

450
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 2: those big plays, but think about the space that generates

451
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 2: for everybody else.

452
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 3: You know, DJ like one of the things about the

453
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,639
Speaker 3: Detroit Lions offense, and it's probably not talked about enough.

454
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 3: I feel like Ben Johnson has done a really good

455
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 3: job of stealing some of the more popular plays that

456
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 3: Jered Goff ran with the Rams and putting them into

457
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 3: the playbook for the Detroit Lions. If you go back,

458
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 3: throw a dig Jared Goff, Yeah, you think about how

459
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 3: Jered Goff played really well for the Rams. It was

460
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 3: a lot of condensed formations. It was a lot of

461
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 3: deep overs, crossing routes, things that were hitting on the move.

462
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 3: When you look at the Lions, you see similarities in

463
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 3: some of the passing game that existed during his time

464
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 3: that came with him from the Rams and Jameson Williams.

465
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Speaker 3: When you talk about like the benefit of having a

466
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 3: speed receiver that can stretch, it is not only vertically,

467
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 3: but it's horizontally. The thing that the Lions are doing though,

468
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 3: is not horizontal, it's diagonal.

469
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 1: Spending them across the field and Diagla.

470
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 3: And they're using his speed to run away from opponents,

471
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 3: and they really put you in a buy and because

472
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 3: if you play zone, Amon Roussaint Brown is going to

473
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 3: absolutely kill you underneath. If you play man to man,

474
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 3: they can run the speed around you. And if you

475
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,479
Speaker 3: can't figure out how you want to play it, they

476
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 3: just run it right at you. Well constructed offensive line,

477
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 3: the playbook in the scheme matches the personnel, which is

478
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 3: why I did the best team in.

479
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 1: Football right now.

480
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't disagree with you for one second. And they

481
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: have reeled off nine straight wins and they kind of

482
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 2: just a whole hum butt kicking of the Indianapolis Colts.

483
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 2: They made that look way too easy on the road

484
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 2: there in Indianapolis. Okay, this is one of the more

485
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 2: entertaining games of the day. There were a bunch of

486
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: them in a wild early slate, but Minnesota Chicago to

487
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 2: me was the most bang for your buck. And watching

488
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: two former Trojans go out at there with Sam Darnold

489
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: as well as Caleb Williams, let's start there, buck to

490
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 2: start with the two quarterbacks. Impressions on this wild game

491
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 2: that went the Vikings way.

492
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Speaker 3: Such a crazy game, Like at one point it seemed

493
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Speaker 3: like Minnesota had complete control of the game.

494
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: The Bears come back, they.

495
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 3: Keep again, they going over time, and then oh, here

496
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 3: we go Sam Donald Kayleb Williams. Sam Donald continues to impress.

497
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Speaker 3: I think Kevin O'Connell, certainly he alluded to being really

498
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 3: excited about having Sam Donald in the offseason.

499
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Speaker 1: I think all of that stuff has come in.

500
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 3: Fruition has done a really good job building game plans

501
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 3: to allow Sam Donald to play to his strengths.

502
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Speaker 1: They have firepower. Oh hello, Jordan Addison, way.

503
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 3: To be the great player that we thought that maybe

504
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 3: you could be when you came out of sc You

505
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 3: can see Kevin O'Connell's vision for having multiple route runners

506
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 3: on the field at the same time. When you have

507
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 3: Addison and Jefferson, just makes the game easy for Sam Donald.

508
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 3: And that's not even talking about TJ. Hockinson, who can

509
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 3: get it done over the middle. This too, is another

510
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 3: well constructed team with the firepower to allow the quarterback

511
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 3: to be comfortable, to allow him to play within himself,

512
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 3: while also having the big play potential that you always

513
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: want to have on offense.

514
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Speaker 2: I felt like this was a great example of of

515
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: environment mattering and how maybe we don't take that into account.

516
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 2: And you know, and with Sam getting a chance to

517
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: play for Kevin and all the pieces that they have

518
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: on this offense, and all of a sudden, he's thriving.

519
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: And even on the other side. I don't want to

520
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: take shots in any other coaches, but you've seen the

521
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: game plan change a little bit and be a little

522
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 2: more quarterback friendly for Caleb, and all of a sudden,

523
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 2: Caleb playing really well. This is best game the three

524
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: hundred and forty yards with some of the spectacular mixed in.

525
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 2: As you see this throw on the run to Swift,

526
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: which was, you know, one of the best throws you'll

527
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 2: see all season long, was ridiculous. Then the clutch throw

528
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: late to get him a field goal to push this

529
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: game into overtime. He made some big time throws. Now

530
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: they're still you know, taking sacks on occasion where he

531
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 2: doesn't need to, but you've seen the environment change in

532
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 2: terms of how they're utilizing him, and all of a sudden,

533
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: the performance is taken off for Caleb and has shown

534
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 2: everybody why he was a top pick. I don't know,

535
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 2: I was just watching games on Sunday when when you're

536
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: not at a game, when you're sitting on your couch

537
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: and just flipping through I just remember thinking, like, you know, gosh,

538
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: I'm watching bo Nicks and how they're utilizing him perfectly,

539
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,959
Speaker 2: and I'm just seeing some of these other situations. All

540
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: of a sudden, Bryce Young from what I saw early

541
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: in the season to where they're using him now, and

542
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: he's got some protection, like the offensive line's playing a

543
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: little bit better, and all of a sudden, now Bryce

544
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: Young's playing well. We'll get to that later, but I

545
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 2: was happy for both these quarterbacks. I think both these

546
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 2: quarterbacks have taken a lot of heat. You know, obviously

547
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: very early for Caleb, but Sam's taking it for several years.

548
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Caleb. And I'm gonna say this about Thomas Brown.

549
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 3: There's something about Thomas Brown in terms of researching the

550
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks as he's taken over where he

551
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: talked about he wanted all the coaches to do a

552
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: little more. He talked and challenged the team to do

553
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 3: a little more when it comes to buying in and

554
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 3: cleaning everything up and doing all that. I think he's

555
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 3: done a really good job with Kayla Williams of simplifying

556
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 3: the game, not necessarily like asking him to do less,

557
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 3: but making it very very clear. I see more repeat concepts.

558
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 3: I see things that are not coleegi it, but they

559
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: make sense in their natural building blocks. As Caleb goes

560
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 3: throughout the course of the game, you can see, Okay,

561
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: they did this early, so now here's the compliment and

562
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: here's the addition to and all of those things are

563
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: making sense for the young quarterback. And make no mistake,

564
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: because there are people that are down on Kayleb.

565
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: Williams right now. The environment matters.

566
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: We've always talked about the three p's, play caller, playmakers, protectors.

567
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 3: They're getting that, but the play caller and the playmakers

568
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 3: can make it easier for the protectors. We're seeing some

569
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 3: of that happen in Chicago. The only thing that I

570
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 3: would challenge Caleb to do is just understand time, score situation.

571
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: When you can hang on to the ball and when

572
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: you need to let go of it.

573
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 3: But that comes with experience, and the only way you

574
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 3: get that experience is by playing. So far, so good

575
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: the last two weeks with Thomas Brown calling the place,

576
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 3: he appears to have a good feel for how to

577
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: get the young quarterback on track.

578
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look he brought him back.

579
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: Unfortunately he takes a bad stack on that first drive,

580
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 2: but they get a great punt. They're able to penn

581
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: Minnesota back deep and the defense couldn't get off the field.

582
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: And give give Sam Donald a company credit. He found Hockinson.

583
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: He was excellent on that drive, being patient, had one

584
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 2: big play to Justin Jefferson, who wasn't as involved in

585
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: this game. But I thought the Bear's defense let him

586
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 2: down in the overtime. But look, it's progress for Caleb.

587
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: Sam is cooking and rolling in a very very competitive

588
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 2: division there in the NFC North. I mentioned it briefly

589
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 2: about Bryce Young and Carolina. I thought we could jump

590
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: into that game next here. Man, they gave the Chiefs

591
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: all they wanted. I tweeted after the game. I said,

592
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: the Chiefs just Aaron reruns at this point in time,

593
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: Like I've seen this game a million times, Like, did

594
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: let an other team hang around?

595
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: They score? You got under two minutes left.

596
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 2: Oh, look it's Patrick Mahomes taking off to run for

597
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 2: twenty something yards to get him in field range, Like

598
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: I've just I've seen this a million times.

599
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: But let's go where I was talking earlier about Bryce.

600
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 2: Your impressions just on him, and I'll get to what

601
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 2: my thoughts are right what you got here.

602
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: DJ, What I'm learning with young quarterbacks, The number one

603
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: thing that I want to find out when we're going

604
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 3: through the process is their toughness level and toughness, not

605
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 3: in terms of physical toughness, but mental toughness. For Bryce

606
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 3: Young to endure, it seems like he's already played three

607
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 3: seasons within this one season. For him to endure in benching,

608
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 3: come back, go back, come back and played really well

609
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: says a lot about his intestinal fort two. That says

610
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: a lot about his toughness and his ability to continue

611
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 3: to fight through all the noise and all the doubts.

612
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 3: Give him credit, he's looked much better the last couple

613
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 3: of weeks. Some of the weapons around him have certainly

614
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: matured and are continued to evolve. But give the young

615
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: guy credit. Man, He's shown far more toughness than some

616
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: would give him credit for it.

617
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: Because we talked about.

618
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 3: It being over in Carolina, when he's showing that it's

619
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: toletally not over. There's not an epitaph on that tombstone yet.

620
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple things, A couple thoughts here. One man

621
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 2: there was a big drop passing. One think it was

622
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: Lagett who had a big drop. But I thought Bryce

623
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: played as well as he's played, you know, throughout his

624
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: young career.

625
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: They protected him better.

626
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: And what do you know, Lo and Behold, when you

627
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: get some protection as a young quarterback, you have a

628
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: better chance to succeed. Especially for a guy who's not big.

629
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: You've got to give him a little bit more of

630
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: a clean surrounding, which they were able to do in

631
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: this game. And Hubbard has run the ball well. I

632
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: want to give coach Canalis and their whole organization credit.

633
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 2: When I was there earlier this Yearbuck, I thought this

634
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: team will win maybe one or two games, like they

635
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: were awful. They were awful, and I said, look this

636
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: take it to the bank. This team will have the

637
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: first overall pick. They have not quit. Not only have

638
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: they not only have they not quit, they've played competitive,

639
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: you know, good football, and they've played above I think

640
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: what their talent level is at this point in time.

641
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: So that's a credit to the organization.

642
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: The one question I have for you, and I'm I'm

643
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: torn on this one because I'm a firm believer in

644
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: pumping your quarterback full of confidence. I see it with Harball,

645
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: with being around the Chargers, and obviously Herbert's a made

646
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: man like he's not like he needs it, but I

647
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: mean he's still he's going to tell everybody under the

648
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: son how great his quarterback is. He's done it with

649
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: everywhere he's ever been. Kevin O'Connell does the same thing.

650
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: He's done it with with Sam when Sam took over

651
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: and talked about how great he's gonna be. Shoot, Kevin

652
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: does it with quarterbacks aren't even on his team, you know,

653
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: talking about Anthony Richardson and other young quarterbacks in the league.

654
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: I just I tend to believe that quarterbacks run on confidence.

655
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: And so after the game, when coach Canalis was asked,

656
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: is Bryce you know, does that mean that he's the

657
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 2: guy going forward? And you know he does that mean

658
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: he's your franchise quarterback? And he said, it's too soon

659
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: for all that. You know, we just kind of going

660
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: week by week. He's obviously he's earned a right to

661
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: start next week. And it was you know, he's he

662
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: said good things about him, but it was short of

663
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: like a full This is the dude, like, this is

664
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: the guy like And I don't know if you're worried

665
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: about getting boxed in the then the offseason, if you

666
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: want to make a change, you feel like you'd be

667
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: going back on your word. To me, I'm pumping all

668
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: of the confidence into the guy who's playing quarterback until

669
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: he's not.

670
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny, DJ, because I've been studying our buddy

671
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: John Gordon book kind of like the positive leadership within

672
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: the team, and I just can't underestimate. Look, I can't

673
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: underscore the importance of breathing life into your quarterback. And

674
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: when you talk about Jim Harbar and Kevin O'Connell and

675
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: how they pump up their guys at every turn, it

676
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: is the hardest position in football, yet it's the one

677
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: that is also the most criticized. And the noise around

678
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: the quarterback is the loudest of any other position in sports.

679
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 3: And when you have a guy, a young guy who's

680
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: drafted number one overall, who you took number one overall

681
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: because you expected him to be the franchise quarterback, I

682
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 3: don't know why you wouldn't pump him up after some

683
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: of his better performances. I know that it may be

684
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: out of your hands, maybe ownership wants to move on

685
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: from him or whatever. But it just doesn't make sense

686
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: when you're the coach, and there's a human element to

687
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: this where relationships matter when it comes to players and coaches. Man,

688
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: why not Rubbis shoulders until the young guy a man,

689
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: you're doing really will? I appreciate how well you are.

690
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: You are playing for us, and man, you got a

691
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: bright future. And even if it's not true, whether it's gonna.

692
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: Be in Carolina or not, why not give him that?

693
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: So going into the next week he feels like a

694
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: superhero when he.

695
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: Walks into the field.

696
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I And look, to be fair, he didn't

697
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: draft him. He just came in after that, so he

698
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 2: inherited him. So he's an adopted son. He's not a

699
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: biological son that in that term.

700
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: So he's a still kid. He's a still kid, SI kid,

701
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: maybe a step kid. But look, he said nice things

702
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: about him. I don't know.

703
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: I don't want to mislead you. He said good things,

704
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: but it wasn't just that full court you know, belief

705
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: in the guy. And I just think, what do you

706
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: got to lose? You might as well just put all

707
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: that belief and see what you get out of him.

708
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: And then at the end of the year you can

709
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: always say, hey, look we did but you know, as

710
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: we've had time to look back on it and we

711
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: need to get better this, that and the other. And

712
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: you want to make decisions, you feel free to do so.

713
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: But I'm always gonna I'm always going to err on

714
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: the side of being you know, let's just pump these

715
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,239
Speaker 2: dudes full of confidence and let them know that they

716
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: can conquer the world. That was the best team, that's

717
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: us defending super Bowl champs. Just what toe to toe

718
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: with them?

719
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: Like that?

720
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: To me is my message, Like, hey guys, hey, first

721
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: of all, my quarterback's good enough to beat anybody in

722
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: this league, and when we give him some help and

723
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: some protection, he can accomplish that. So I feel good.

724
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: I'll go into a war. I'll fight with him any

725
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: day of the week, Like bring them all along. We

726
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: can play with anybody. So I don't know, it's just

727
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: a different it's there's different thoughts on that. I see

728
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: both sides of it, But that's where I would go.

729
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: Let's get to another game here Buck Miami, New England.

730
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: This was a game dominated by the Dolphins, and we've

731
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: been sending it on here for weeks to as valuable

732
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: to his team as any other player is to their

733
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: team in the entire league. This is a different team

734
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: with him.

735
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: That's a big reveal DJ.

736
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 3: I think that's the big reveal of twenty twenty four

737
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: as released to South Florida and the Miami Dolphins football team.

738
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: Before for so long, all the noise was about, Yeah,

739
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: anybody could flourish in this offense. Look at all the

740
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: weapons in the firepower around him. All he has to

741
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: do is get it to the play because we have

742
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: a chance to see what it's like when he's not there. Look, man,

743
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 3: he's the major spoke in the wheel. He kind of

744
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: makes it kind of go. He's the wheel hug. And

745
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: when he is at quarterback, his skills as a quick

746
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: rhythm thrower, his skills as an RBO specialist. The way

747
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 3: the ball is always in the strike zone at these

748
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: short and interminute ranges allows this offense to go. And

749
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: with the speed that the Miami Dolphins have, they can

750
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: really stretch you sideline the sideline with this horizontal passing game,

751
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: and it's very difficult. It's a unique offense and I

752
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: can only tell you how unique it is by watching

753
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: it up close and personal during the season opener. It's

754
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: not an easy offense because man, they make you run

755
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: from sideline to the sideline. It's almost like watching a

756
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: college offense. But they have elite personnel executing those concepts.

757
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: And look, the quarterback is leaked elite.

758
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: Within this system.

759
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: Two a Tony be Low as the top five quarterback

760
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: in that system.

761
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: I was thinking about him in the analogy of like keys,

762
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: Like there's a mass the key, right, so you have

763
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: a master key that can work for an entire complex.

764
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: He can get you into every room, and so that

765
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: can work for every team, Like there's few quarterbacks that

766
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: are the master key that they'll go fit in any room.

767
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: But there's no mistaking about it, like Tua is the

768
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: key to the Dolphins, Like he unlocks that whole thing.

769
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: He makes the whole thing go.

770
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: And we can debate what does that look like, doesn't

771
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: matter what it looks like for the other thirty one teams.

772
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: He is the perfect fit to run this offense. I

773
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: don't think there's a better fit out there to do

774
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: what they want to do. And it's a it's a

775
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: team that's dangerous when he's when he's healthy and in

776
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: the lineup, they're five and six. They're clawing their way

777
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: back into this thing. I do want to give some

778
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: love to Chop Robinson. They have to find more pass

779
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: rush on the perimeter. They've just been crushed with injuries

780
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: really over the last couple of years. But he has

781
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: one and a half sacks. Both of those he's double team.

782
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: He's getting chipped by the tight end, beats a tight

783
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: end and the left tackle. So that was that was

784
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: good to see for the young player out of Penn

785
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: State who did some good things New England. I mean, look,

786
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: we've had some fun moments. They've they've been competitive. This

787
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: was not one of those games. This was a This

788
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: was just them getting their butts kicked.

789
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was tail kicking.

790
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: I mean, the inferior team showed up. You can see

791
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: the talent disparity. You can see that they were not

792
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: quite on the Dolphins level on this Sunday, and it's unfortunate,

793
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: but even in a lost Drake May continues to flash

794
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 3: at times.

795
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: The talent is certainly there.

796
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 3: This off season is about building around the young quarterback.

797
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 3: It's about putting the pieces around him. To allow him

798
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 3: to flourish. But right now they just they just can't

799
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: do it. And so what you want to do is

800
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: you want to play out the stream. You want to

801
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: see if you have some successes that you can build

802
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 3: upon in the off season as you're thinking about this

803
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 3: sophomore year.

804
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: For Drake Man.

805
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: YEP, a lot of roster traditions needed there for the Patriots.

806
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 2: Let's rip through another one here, Tennessee Houston. Maybe maybe

807
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: one of the biggest surprises of the day, although I

808
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 2: guess it shouldn't be because the Texans don't look right.

809
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: Tennessee gets their third win, thirty two to twenty seven.

810
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: They got sacked a bazillion times, but give Will Levis credit,

811
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 2: still made enough plays and was able to help get

812
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: them over the finish line. Their defense took the ball away.

813
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: So let's start on the Houston side of this thing.

814
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 2: Is we look at Will Levis and we'll give him

815
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 2: his flowers in a moment. Let's start with the Houston

816
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: side and what the heck is wrong with this group

817
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: right now?

818
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: DJ One of the things that I worry about coming

819
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: into the hype around the Texans was so big that

820
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if they had an opportunity to fully

821
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 3: settle in in year two of the Demico Ryan's experience,

822
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: meaning people expected this team to go from being a

823
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: really good team and a playoff contended to being a

824
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 3: title contender. Some of that was due to the names

825
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: of what they brought in, but what you always have

826
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 3: to account for is with young quarterbacks, the more tape

827
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: that's put out there, the more they're going to be

828
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 3: challenged to evolve their game. And as people begun to

829
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 3: dig into the CJ. Stroud evaluation and what he did

830
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: really well as a rookie, and as they began to

831
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: really hone in on those concepts and take those away

832
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: and force them to play left handed, how is he

833
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: going to continue to adapt?

834
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: And right now he is struggling.

835
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: Some of that is due to the injuries where he

836
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: didn't he doesn't have digs, he didn't have any Goo

837
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: Collins for a big part of it, and some of

838
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: that is just a natural maturation process that quarterbacks.

839
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: Have to go through. But right now now he's struggling.

840
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: He's struggling right now because teams are really honed in

841
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: on his game and they're taking away some of the

842
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 3: things that he really showed did he like to do

843
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 3: and execute his rookie season.

844
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: That's why it was harder for him this season as

845
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: opposed to last season.

846
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: A couple of things on Stroud just you can tell

847
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: he's visibly frustrated. When you go through and watch the tape,

848
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: you'll see it at the end of plays and one

849
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: of the picks I think it was Mechi they're not

850
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: on the same page, so that results in interception. You

851
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: can see some visual frustration there, So he definitely is frustrated.

852
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: The other thing is I.

853
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: Would say there's two f's here, frustration and I would

854
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: say frenetic. This is this is what so impressed me

855
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: about Stroud last year, to be, you know, that inexperienced

856
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: and to be as poised as he was, and to

857
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: not be busy and fortic and panicky this year. That's

858
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: kind of crept in and a lot of it.

859
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: Dude.

860
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 2: Look, the offensive line has not played well really across

861
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: the board. Tunsil leads the league in penalties. They've get

862
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: a lot of interior pressure, so they haven't been great upfront.

863
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: But I think you've seen that. You've seen the combination

864
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: of him getting frustrated, but maybe more concerning is just

865
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: that sped him up a little bit. He's spent a

866
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 2: little frenetic.

867
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has been frenetic and the like being uncomfortable

868
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: in the pocket. A lot of that has to do

869
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: with the offensive line, but also DJ, You've talked about it,

870
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 3: because I've heard you talk about your eyes and feet

871
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 3: being connected, and we have quiet feet in the pocket.

872
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: More times than not, the ball is going to be accurate.

873
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 3: It's gonna be delivered right within the strike zone. We're

874
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 3: not seeing that from CJ.

875
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: Strout.

876
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: And the reason death stands out on tape because he's

877
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 3: one of the more accurate throwers that we've seen going

878
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: back to his time at Ohio State early.

879
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: In his career at Houston.

880
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: This is a guy that consistently paints the corners on

881
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 3: the strike zone. He's not doing that this year. Tells

882
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: me he's not comfortable. He's either not seeing it or

883
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: where he feels all of the rest or the chaos

884
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: around him. That's something that the Texans have to fish

885
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 3: and to be honest with their offense.

886
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: It has been at his best when.

887
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: Joe Mixon has been able to get off and have

888
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 3: big games. I would expect and anticipate the Texans leaning

889
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 3: into the running game more as they try and find

890
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 3: a way to get their young quarterback.

891
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: Back on track. Now, let's let's quickly give some love

892
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: here to Will Levis.

893
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 2: I feel like Will Levis kind of a punching bag

894
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: because he has kind of some of those quirks. Yeah,

895
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: some quirks, but like some of like some of the

896
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: mistakes are pretty almost like comical for lack of a

897
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: better word, at times. But there's things you can't deny

898
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: about Will Levis. Number one is this toughness. Like you

899
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 2: watch him as a ball carrier, look at his just

900
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: look at his arms. He's got bruises all over him

901
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: every time you see him out there because he gives

902
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: himself up trying to, you know, fight for extra yardage.

903
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: And number two, he's got a big arm. You know,

904
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: there's an offense that works with him, which is a

905
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 2: run game and an over the top explosive passing game.

906
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: So it's a pretty simple formula. They haven't been able

907
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: to get to it as much as they would like

908
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: this year. Their special teams have been abysmal, just atrocious

909
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: all year long. But I think, look, let's give all

910
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 2: of us some credit man. He's tough, competitive, and that's

911
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: a big win for him.

912
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's another look. We talked about tough being a

913
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: common denominated. It has been the word that we've used

914
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: the entire episode when talking to quarterbacks. He does have

915
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: enough toughness that you admire. It's not always pretty. I

916
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 3: mean there have been some ugly plays from the young quarterback.

917
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 3: But look when he is able to do what he

918
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 3: does really well, which has pushed the ball down the field,

919
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: when they are afforded a running game, which allows him

920
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: to throw play actions off the compliments, then it really

921
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: works out. He gets into trouble winnus I would say

922
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: obvious passing downs and everyone in the stadium.

923
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: Knows he's going to pass.

924
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 3: And now you're relying on him to kind of play

925
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: quarterback at a high level in terms of like aptitude,

926
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: understanding and diagnosing.

927
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: But when you're able to run the ball and allow him.

928
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: To take a half shots each week, he has the

929
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: arm talent to be able to get it done.

930
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: Now he has to take disperformance and build upon it

931
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: as they go forward.

932
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 3: The Titans need to see him continue to progress as

933
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: a envision how they want to build this team, particularly

934
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 3: around him going forward.

935
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: The Raiders competitive in this game for a good little bit.

936
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: It took it down late into the fourth quarter. I

937
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 2: give him credit for that, but this was more of

938
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: bo Necks. This was more of Sean Payton and a

939
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: marriage that looks like it's really a perfect match with

940
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: a quarterback and a play color book.

941
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, perfect match. And DJ I think we've said this right.

942
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 3: We didn't compare bow Knicks to Drew Brees, but we

943
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: thought that Sean Payton would like him based on what

944
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: he could see in terms of the similarities and traits

945
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: that bow Knicks had compared to Drew Brees. And what

946
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: we're seeing is he does like this. He is building

947
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 3: this offense very similar to the way that he constructed

948
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: the offense in New Orleans.

949
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: With Drew Brees as the centerpiece.

950
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: The thing about it, the running game was not available

951
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: against the Raiders because of all the cover zero pressures

952
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 3: and all the things that Patrick Graham was doing to

953
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: take that away. This forced bow Knicks to have to

954
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: be the driving force of the offense. And even though

955
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 3: it has taken him a while to kind of settle

956
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: in and be the passer that can throw at forty

957
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: plus times, really good decision maker athletic can buy himself

958
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 3: out of trouble. But I would say the best part

959
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 3: of bo Nicks's game has been the discipline and the

960
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: detail that he's displayed as the starting quarterback.

961
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: We talked about the offensive Rookie of the year.

962
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 3: That race will still be determined, but he's not only

963
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: in that conversation, he's edging past Jayden Daniels because he

964
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: has his team playing playoff football. And I don't know

965
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: if any of us envision the shorthanded Broncos being a

966
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: playoff contender this year.

967
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like a baseball analogy that Bonix has

968
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: been able to kind of hit fifth in the lineup

969
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: here where this defense is two, three, four, Like they

970
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: are getting on base, they're driving in runs. It's taking

971
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: off some of the pressure from him. And and look,

972
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: this is an offense the knock on Bonux. All the

973
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: balls out too quick like it's this you know that

974
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: they don't, you know, get deep into progressions and all

975
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: these things at Oregon and it's the quick you know what.

976
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: That's what the NFL is right now. The NFL is

977
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: playing with two high safeties or they're playing zero looks.

978
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: Like you were just talking about, you've got to be

979
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: able to think quick, get the ball out quick, and

980
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: move on.

981
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: And that's what he does really well.

982
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: He takes a picture in his mind, he sees the

983
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: field really well, and the ball's gone. He's not going

984
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: to sit back there and hold it forever. And the

985
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: other thing is, you know, we talked about the Drew

986
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: Brees thing, but also some of the Taysom Hill stuff,

987
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: some of the movement stuff you can do with bow

988
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: because they're a really, really good athlete. So it has

989
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: been a beautiful marriage there and what they've been able

990
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: to accomplish is impressive. I'm going to see the Broncos.

991
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: They moved that game. It got flexed in a few weeks,

992
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: maybe three weeks. We've got Chargers. Broncos got flex to

993
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: a Thursday night, which I don't think that's been done before.

994
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: So you take a.

995
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: Say it's the first one. It's the first one to

996
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: a Thursday, and Sean Payton had to sign off on it.

997
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: He was for it because I think they play the

998
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: Bengals the following week and that gives them a little

999
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: bit of a mini buy to get ready for that one.

1000
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: But that's that's shaping up to be a big game.

1001
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: So you know, the Broncos have earned the right to

1002
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: be playing meaningful games at this point in the year.

1003
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 2: And and again, I think the lead is really the defense,

1004
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: which has been dominant. Uh and then bow Nix's I

1005
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: mean he might be the front runner right now to

1006
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: be Rookie of the Year. He's he's right there.

1007
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 3: If I am an organization, if I'm the Cleveland Browns,

1008
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: I would pay close attention to what Sean Payton has

1009
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: been able to do. With the Denver Broncos being shorthanded

1010
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 3: with a quarterback situation that you might have on your

1011
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: hands next season. The Cleveland Browns may have to take

1012
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 3: a page of the de Sean Payton playbook to figure

1013
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 3: out how to play competitive games with a short handed rust.

1014
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah no, it's it's gonna be an interesting offseason in Cleveland.

1015
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: All right, Let's let's get to the Dallas Washington game.

1016
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: Another bonkers game. This game going on at the same

1017
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 2: time as the Chicago Minnesota game.

1018
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: Too nuts.

1019
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: So finishes, the Commanders have a furious comeback. They end

1020
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: up in a pat There's a lot of special teams magic.

1021
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: A couple returns there for the Cowboys late in this

1022
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: ball game, but they snapped a five game losing streak

1023
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: through the Cowboys and they went thirty four to twenty six.

1024
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 2: My first thought on this one that I'll get over

1025
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 2: to you, Buck, is we've talked so much about environment

1026
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: mattering for quarterbacks, and what was our big concern with

1027
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 2: Washington coming into the season was, man, this offensive line, like,

1028
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: how are they going to be any good? How are

1029
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: they going to protect Jane Daniels or how's he going

1030
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: to play behind the suspect offensive line? Well, they played

1031
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: above their heads for a good chunk of the season.

1032
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: They've lost three games in a Rowbuck, Jaden's been sacked

1033
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: ten times in the last three games. This is kind

1034
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 2: of what our fear was at the beginning of the season.

1035
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the fear like they're kind of coming back.

1036
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: A few things are happening with the Commanders. One we

1037
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: always talk about more tape allows defensive coordinators to kind

1038
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: of get a bitter feel for how to play your

1039
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: quarterback as they get later in the year.

1040
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: We're seeing some of that happen.

1041
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 3: We're seeing the inconsistencies with the running game in those things.

1042
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 3: And look, let's be honest, Jade Daniels hasn't played the.

1043
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: Same since he heard his ribs.

1044
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 3: No one knows how much that's impacting him as a

1045
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 3: runner and as a thrower. But even in spite of

1046
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: all that, DJ, the throw that he had to Terry

1047
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: mclaurren in the clutch, we drops that thing in the

1048
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: scene and then Terry McLaurin like.

1049
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: Just takes he wants untouched. Just a great throw.

1050
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 3: And it's unfortunate that a special teams gap takes away

1051
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 3: our ability to really put him on a pedestal and

1052
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 3: give him his flowers in terms of what he's able

1053
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 3: to do. Look, young quarterbacks are going to have these

1054
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 3: ebbs and flows that kind of go on throughout the year.

1055
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: But look, he's super talented.

1056
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: And I think the combination of watching Jayde Daniels watching

1057
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 3: bow Knicks and even to a lesser degree Kayleb Williams,

1058
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 3: it's gonna change our eye when it comes to quarterbacks.

1059
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 3: We used to talk about experiencing those things, but man, DJ,

1060
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: I don't know how you can't include a experience and

1061
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 3: starts in all that in the equation when you're beginning

1062
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 3: to evaluate and project how quarterbacks are going to play

1063
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: at the next level.

1064
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's a good point, but that is a

1065
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: you know, that's a tough loss for Washington. As the

1066
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles start to create a little gap a little

1067
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 2: distance there in the NFC East, we'll see hopefully Jaden

1068
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: get a little healthier, they play a little better up front,

1069
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: and we'll see more consistency that we saw earlier in

1070
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: the season. Tampa Bay just throttles the Giants. There are

1071
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 2: two quick points on this one, and then I'll let

1072
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: you have any parting thoughts in this game. We won't

1073
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: linger number one Bucky Irving. It's just another reminder stay

1074
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 2: with your initial evaluation on players. Gotta be kidding me.

1075
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: I loved his tape and then I just kind of

1076
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: fell off of him a little bit later on in

1077
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: the process. He's been awesome running receiving. Hat tip to

1078
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: Jason light that's an excellent pick there for the Bucks.

1079
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: They're trying to hang in this thing there at five

1080
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: and six. So that's my takeaway on Tampa side of things.

1081
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: On the other side of it, Buck, I think that

1082
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: I think Daniel Jones getting benched and released is not

1083
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: only the best thing you know to happen for him

1084
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: in his career, just because he'll get a chance to

1085
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: get a fresh start somewhere else. But I think it's

1086
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 2: the best thing for his value because when you can't

1087
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: get a first down with the other quarterback, it explains

1088
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: away and can excuse away some of your performance. So

1089
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: and again, that's why, if I'm Daniel Jones, I'm going

1090
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 2: to an elite team where I can just sit take

1091
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: in as much knowledge as I possibly can as we

1092
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 2: come down the home stretch here, I don't really even

1093
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: care to play. I mean, you can't say that if

1094
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: you're him, but if I'm going to be honest, I

1095
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to play. I want to sit out the

1096
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: rest of the year. I want to watch the Giants

1097
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: completely go in the tank, and so it explains away

1098
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: and excuses away some of my performance, and then I

1099
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 2: get to cherry pick my spot next year. The worst

1100
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: thing for him would be to go to a dumpster

1101
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: fire team, get thrown into the lineup without any preparation,

1102
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: you know, play poorly, and then you start to go, well,

1103
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: maybe it's this guy. You know, he hasn't been good

1104
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: in a couple of different spots. I think that would

1105
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: be a terrible idea.

1106
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got this because I'm gonna ask you this.

1107
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna give you my take on the

1108
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: perfect situation for him, and I don't know if they

1109
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 3: will make it into the postseason.

1110
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: If I'm Daniel Jones, I go right to LA and

1111
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: see if I can give with Sean McVay.

1112
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 3: And part of the reason I want to get in

1113
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: LA is because they may have a potential opening coming

1114
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: up when it comes to Matthew Stafford, whether it's this

1115
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 3: year or next year, whatever, I want to go there

1116
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 3: because I also saw what it did for Baker Mayfield

1117
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: coming to LA before he went to Tampa and those things.

1118
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 3: So that's my spot for him. What is the spot

1119
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 3: that you believe would be ideal for Daniel Jones?

1120
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,959
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I was thinking, you know, there is one.

1121
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: The Niners would be another one. And here's the other

1122
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: thing I would think of if you're going to be

1123
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: smart from an agent perspective. Okay, what's the most popular

1124
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: tree in the NFL. It's the one buck he's talking about.

1125
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: It's the one you're talking about bucket.

1126
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: Getting.

1127
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: Let's get on there, let's get let's get a month

1128
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: plus to learn it, and then let's also have a

1129
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: chance to make an impression. All these guys are all

1130
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 2: best friends, that whole circle.

1131
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: Of coaches, they're all buddies. They all talk to each other.

1132
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: Yes, and guess who's gonna get hired as coordinators for

1133
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: these jobs when they open up? Guys from that tree.

1134
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: So you get a chance to spend time in that offense.

1135
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: You get a chance to impress the really the you know,

1136
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: the one of the two heads of that whole family

1137
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: that I don't call like a crime family, but it is.

1138
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: It's like McVeagh and Channing as the two crime bosses

1139
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 2: that they fuel out the whole league. So I want

1140
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: to get a chance to learn their system. I want

1141
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 2: a chance to impress those guys with my work ethic.

1142
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: But oh yeah, bonus, I might get to learn from

1143
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford if you go to the Rams, who's not

1144
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: someone that'd be a bad person to learn from.

1145
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because the other team that is come up,

1146
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 3: Like people talked about the Vikings, kevinnc comme that makes sense,

1147
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 3: But then the Baltimore Ravens won I can't really understand,

1148
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 3: and I guess I can understand it in terms of

1149
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 3: like them one, we have insurance whatever.

1150
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: But I guess Snoopunley there. I'm trying to figure.

1151
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 3: Can you understand what the appeal would be for Daniel

1152
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: Jones to go to Baltimore potentially, because that's been one

1153
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 3: of the teams that's kind of been cited as a

1154
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: potential suitor.

1155
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, because Lamar has been heard at times.

1156
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 2: We've seen the Ravens enter into playoffs without Lamar.

1157
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: I just I wouldn't. I mean, and look, they utilize

1158
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback who can move. Daniel Jones can move.

1159
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 2: But like, there's no tree there, there's no offensive tree

1160
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: in Baltimore. It's an offense that's built around, you know,

1161
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: a very unique player in Lamar Jackson. So to me,

1162
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: that would not be on my list if I were him.

1163
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get to one of those other guys.

1164
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: But I can see, like I can see why I

1165
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 2: would fit for this. You know, he could fit in there,

1166
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: but I just don't think it bodes well from going

1167
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: in the next year. He ain't gonna be the quarterback

1168
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 2: in Baltimore next year, So I don't know that one

1169
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: doesn't make as much sense to me speaking of Baltimore Buck,

1170
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: I'll be there on the call for the Chargers radio

1171
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: as the hardball takes place here. This is the third

1172
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: meeting between Jim and John Harball, A big, big matchup

1173
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 2: Monday Night football. I'm looking forward to this thing, man.

1174
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: I've been prepping for this thing all week and watching

1175
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: the tape and I was I was struck by kind

1176
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: of the Ravens West aspect of this thing. So let

1177
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 2: me just give you a couple scenarios or similarities. Obviously,

1178
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: you've got the brothers coaching the teams. You've got quarterbacks.

1179
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 2: I think we would all agree, you know, however you

1180
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: want to shake it out any ranking. Herbert is going

1181
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: to be a top five quarterback Lamar Jackson's top five quarterbacks.

1182
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: So you start with elite quarterback play. Let's go to

1183
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball. How about safeties

1184
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: that you can play all over the field. In Derwin

1185
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: James and Kyle Hamilton, that's a very similar player. We

1186
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: look at young wide receivers Zay Flowers and Lad McConkie,

1187
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 2: guys who can win before you know, at the line

1188
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 2: of scrimmage, at the catch point and can run after

1189
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: the catch explosive, explosive guys, maybe not the biggest guys

1190
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: in the world, but very similar. You've got the two

1191
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: three hundred pounds fullbacks in the NFL and Scott Matt

1192
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 2: Locke and Patrick Card. You've got a bevy of tight

1193
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: ends that you can utilize and that can block. You've

1194
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: got first round left tackles, high first round picks at

1195
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 2: left tackle. You've gone into free agency and collected a

1196
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 2: physical runner. Obviously, Derrick Henry stands alone when you're comparing

1197
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 2: him with JK. Dobbins, but they went out and shopped

1198
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: and found that piece. You've got linebackers at the second

1199
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: level who are explosive and fast. Think about Rokwan and Simpson.

1200
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 2: Then you think about Dayon Henley and what he's done

1201
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: for this Chargers defense. You've got edge rushers with power

1202
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: and physicality on both sides. Like these teams are really

1203
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 2: kind of mirror images of one another.

1204
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 3: They are mirror images of one another, which is really

1205
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 3: impressive in terms of Jim Harbub making sure he goes

1206
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 3: MEAs Joe Ortiz and others from the Baltimore Ravens organization

1207
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 3: to make sure that everyone in the building sees the

1208
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 3: game through the same prism.

1209
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: These teams are similar because it's.

1210
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 3: Very clear when you turn on the tape you understand

1211
00:53:59,160 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 3: what the identity is.

1212
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: They are tough.

1213
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 3: They are teams that fancy themselves as the bully on

1214
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 3: the block. Their compative style can overwhelm teams that are

1215
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 3: not prepared to face them. And when you talked about

1216
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 3: the marquee positions that you outlined on their respective teams, DJ,

1217
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 3: they have blue chair players in those places. The thing

1218
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 3: about it, and people will talk about, yeah, style of play,

1219
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 3: you worry about, narrowpath to victory.

1220
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: What if they get behind, YadA YadA, YadA.

1221
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: Well, DJ, there's a confidence that they have that they

1222
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 3: can seize control over any game. I'll see this though,

1223
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 3: when comparing the two teams, the Chargers have a better

1224
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 3: ability to seize control of the game with their defense

1225
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: because jesse Mentor has their group playing well. Even though

1226
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 3: people will point to the Sunday night game in Cincinnati

1227
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: going up and down the field. To me, I believe

1228
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 3: the Chargers needed to see that because they needed to

1229
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 3: have those flaws exposed so they could tighten up. Part

1230
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 3: of what you want to do over the course of

1231
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 3: the regular season, have those tough games so you can

1232
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 3: continue to get better down the stretch. The team that

1233
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: the Ravens will face will be better than the version

1234
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 3: they saw last Sunday, because I would say the exposure

1235
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 3: and the shootout that they participated in against the Bengals

1236
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 3: will help them get ready for a high flying offense

1237
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 3: in Baltimore that also can do some of the things

1238
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 3: that the Bengals did when it comes to spreading them

1239
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 3: out and throwing.

1240
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: All over the yard.

1241
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 2: One key to the game to me is the Chargers

1242
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: getting home with four. They've been able to do it.

1243
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 2: They play with light boxes, They've been able to stop

1244
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: the run with a light box, and they've been able

1245
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 2: to pressure with four. You've got to do that in

1246
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 2: this game. Lamar Jackson and studying this thing. He eats

1247
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: up the blitz. You blitz him, you are dead. He's

1248
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: going to hit big plays behind you, or he's going

1249
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: to crease you and go with his legs. So I

1250
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: don't think this is a big blitz game. I do

1251
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: think on the other side of it. The last thing

1252
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 2: and I'll leave at you with this and you give

1253
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 2: me your last thought, but with Justin Herbert, the beauty

1254
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: of this system and Greg Roman and the way that

1255
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: they've brought this thing in is I use the Superman analogy.

1256
00:55:59,120 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: Right.

1257
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: They give him a lot of Clark Kent games. Look,

1258
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: there's gonna be there's gonna be six to eight games

1259
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: every year on your schedule where we can win with

1260
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: you being Clark Kent. Like, we don't even have to

1261
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: take the driver out of the bag. We are not

1262
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 2: going to screw up. We're not going to lose the game.

1263
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: We're not gonna put you in harm's way. We can

1264
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: Clark Kent our way to this thing. This is a

1265
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: Superman game, Like, this is okay, let's go onto the

1266
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: phone booth and you're gonna have to make some big

1267
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: boy plays today. You're going to have to be you know,

1268
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 2: that elite, elite player. So I think that's kind of

1269
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: the analogy I would use with how they've built this

1270
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: team and what they need from Justin Herbert.

1271
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that's the thing and INDJ I know

1272
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 3: people get frustrated with that, but I kind of feel

1273
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 3: like Jim harper One being a quarterback, understands the beauty

1274
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 3: and having a franchise quarterback, isn't that you use them

1275
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 3: for all seventeen games, it's five or six games where

1276
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 3: you need that franchise quarterback to play at an elite

1277
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 3: level in terms of like being able to raise the

1278
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 3: game and kind of put everything on his shoulder. Justin

1279
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 3: Herbert has shown that ability throughout his time in the league.

1280
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 3: He's done and you don't compile the kind of the

1281
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 3: numbers that he's compiled without having that. But in a

1282
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 3: more controlled environment like he's playing in now, you don't

1283
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 3: need to use them like that.

1284
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: But this could be the game where you can do.

1285
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 3: It, where you can say, hey, Justin, we're gonna have

1286
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 3: to throw it a little more because they're gonn take

1287
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 3: the runaway.

1288
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to throw it all over to the yard.

1289
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 3: Or there's some vulnerabilities in the back end that we

1290
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 3: can attack. Look for Justin Herbert to kind of put

1291
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 3: on the cape a little more tonight. Maybe he's as

1292
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 3: superman this week that we haven't seen in a few weeks,

1293
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 3: where he has to come out and.

1294
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: Do some special stuff.

1295
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: Yep, looking forward to it. We saw it in the

1296
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: first half against the Bengals. They weren't able to keep

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Speaker 2: it going. But I think he's gonna need four quarters

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Speaker 2: of that play in this game if they're gonna knock

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Speaker 2: off a very very good Baltimore Ravens team. So we'll

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Speaker 2: have reaction to this game tomorrow on the show. We

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Speaker 2: appreciate you guys hanging with us today. It's been fun.

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Speaker 2: It was a wild weekend of football and glad we

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Speaker 2: could break it all down for you right here. We'll

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Speaker 2: see it tomorrow right here on. Move the sticks.

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Speaker 3: Before, Unity, before

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Speaker 1: Community,