1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome, 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: thank you for joining us. You're here, I'm here, got back. 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: We were my family and I. We were all in 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: the Philly area for a family wedding over the weekend, 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: and over three days, the five of us took nine 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: planes to get there and back, get there and back, 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: and shockingly, we had very little trouble. Right in a 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: couple of minor, you know, fifteen to thirty minute delays 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: taking off, but at one point we were all in 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: the air at. 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: The same time. 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 3: That's amazing, going in. 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: Four different directions. 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: And I realized by Friday that they had told well, 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: they had made decisions in advance what flights they were 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: going to cancel. So if you got to the point 18 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: where you had a boarding pass, then you were safe 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: because they were scheduling all the disruptions ahead of time. 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: So there was really, you know, once I got to 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: Friday morning, there was really no danger of being suddenly 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: being suddenly stranded somewhere. So I'll tell you more about 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: all that coming up. But obviously the big news and 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: the reason everybody was concerned if they had to travel 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: over the weekend. Was the government shutdown is coming to 26 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: an end. Eight Democrats defected, caved in, and the Republicans 27 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: got their way, and they are now going to be 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: going through the voting procedures. But the government's going to 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 2: be reopened. Let's going to talk now to Joe Khalil. 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,919 Speaker 2: He's the Washington correspondent for News it Nation, the cable 31 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: TV network. 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: Joe, how are you say? Good? How you guys doing? 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm good? So is it really over? 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 4: It is not over yet, but we are on the 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 4: pathway for this to be over. Yes, last night the 36 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 4: critical thing happened where eight Democrats voted with the Republicans 37 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: to reopen the government. There was a deal that effectively said, Okay, 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: we'll keep government open between now and January thirtieth. So 39 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 4: it's not super long term, but it reopens the government 40 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: on a couple of conditions. There's some long term spending 41 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: in there, so it covers the snap benefits, the food assistants, 42 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 4: the military spending for like a full year. And federal 43 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 4: workers who were fired during the shutdown by the White 44 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 4: House are actually not just going to get paid, but 45 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 4: they're going to get their jobs backed and every federal 46 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 4: worker who is furloughed will get back pay. That was 47 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 4: kind of a deal that both this group of small 48 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 4: group of moderate Democrats and Republicans came up with. So 49 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 4: it is in the process now we're waiting to see 50 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 4: today if the Senate votes tonight or tomorrow. They're hoping tonight. 51 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 4: They're pushing hard for that, and then by Wednesday or Thursday, 52 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 4: this should all be wrapped up and reopened. 53 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: But the big demand that the Democrats had and did 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: not get was extending these Obamacare subsidies into the future. 55 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 4: And exactly, and that is why these eight Democrats are 56 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: getting a lot of flak from the rest of their party. Effectively, 57 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 4: it's leaders, it's leader Chuck Schumer and Huckeen Jeffries that 58 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 4: are opposed to this deal. Of nearly the entire Democratic 59 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 4: Senate conference as opposed to it. Nearly every Democrat and 60 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: the House is opposed to it. And I'll go further. 61 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: This is pretty remarkable. Even people who are going to 62 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 4: be at the top of the ticket potentially in twenty 63 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 4: twenty eight, including California Governor Gavin Newsom, Illinois Governor Jamie Pritzker, 64 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 4: and others very high profile figures. They have all come 65 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: out against this deal because it does not include, as 66 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 4: you point out, extending those Obamacare subsidies for twenty plus 67 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: million Americans. Now, what Democrats did get is a promise 68 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 4: from Republican leaders that they will vote on it in 69 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: the Senate. Only there's no guarantee that the House ever 70 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: even takes it up. There's no guarantee it's going to pass. 71 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 4: They didn't put the language in the CR which would 72 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: have been a bit more compelling for Democrats, they would 73 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: have likely jumped on board. So yeah, there's a lot 74 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 4: of real frustration today among the vast majority of Democrats 75 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 4: and their base voters, who frankly wanted to keep this 76 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 4: fight going until they got some kind of hard guarantee 77 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 4: on these subsidies. 78 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: And I imagine these senators as well as everybody else, 79 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: was getting enormous amounts of blowback and criticism with the 80 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: airports being closed, with the food staff payments not going out, 81 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: among other things. But those were the two biggies that 82 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: I think affected a lot of people. 83 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I talked to Tim Kaine today, the 84 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 4: Democrat senator from Virginia, and by the way, Virginia, a 85 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 4: state with three hundred thousand plus feeder workers. Right, so 86 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 4: this is a unique situation too. He I asked him, 87 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: you know, you're getting a ton of blowback. Did you 88 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 4: expect level, you know, a pushback on you? And he said, 89 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 4: you know, last night was the first good night of 90 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 4: sleep I had since October first, The Senator told me, 91 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 4: I walked into the building today, I felt like I 92 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: could actually look in the eyes the US Capitol Police 93 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: officer who I'd been walking in, you know, for the 94 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 4: last forty plus days and they haven't been getting paid, 95 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: or the furloughed worker at my church that comes up 96 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 4: to me, or you know, the people in the communities 97 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: around DC that rely on snap. He's like all of that. 98 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 4: It was just the pain was too much and we 99 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: needed to get to a point where we ended it. Now. 100 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: Mind you, those eight Democrats say they can still fight 101 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: for the Affordable Care Act subsidies. They're going to try 102 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 4: to do it, but you know, realistically they do loose 103 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 4: some leverage here, and I'm sad. The lesson I think 104 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 4: here is in twenty thirteen and in twenty eighteen, it 105 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 4: was Republicans that really shut down the government and they 106 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 4: were making demands and they did not get those demands. 107 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: And this time around it was Democrats making those kinds 108 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 4: of demands and voting to shut down the government. And 109 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 4: so maybe the lesson here is that the side that 110 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: generally makes those kinds of demands and votes to shut 111 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 4: down does not usually end up getting what they're demanding. 112 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem to be effective. 113 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: You laid out those three scenarios there, and it's zero 114 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: for three on that over the last ten twelve years. 115 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 2: So it doesn't think like that that's the way to go, 116 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: because there's just too many people who end up getting harmed. 117 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: And if you force the shutdown, then you got to 118 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: deal with the consequences, and the consequences are never good. 119 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: Within a month, you've got chaos, you've got food stamps 120 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: not going out, you got you've got airports cutting back 121 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: their schedule. I mean, it's just it's a stupid way. 122 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: Considering you have all year to negotiate this stuff. This 123 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 2: is a ridiculous way to try to force what you 124 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: want into law. 125 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 4: Typically. Yeah, and the side that's not making demands, you know, 126 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 4: it's obviously a lot easier for them because they can 127 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 4: look at the public and say we're just asking for 128 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 4: the government to open and for all the pain to stop. Now. 129 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 4: I will say it was unusual when you looked at 130 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 4: the public pulling this time around, because the public seemed 131 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 4: to be blaming Republicans in the White House more than 132 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: they were blaming Democrats for this shutdown. And it's something 133 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 4: that even President Trump acknowledged publicly and said, yeah, we're 134 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: losing the public battle here, which is in many ways 135 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 4: why a lot of Democrats were so frustrated yesterday that 136 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 4: those eighthes seem to you know, cave because they were thinking, 137 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: you know, we might have actually the sort of moral 138 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 4: high ground. We're we're winning the fight among the public, 139 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: the perception of it. But you know, here we are now, 140 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: and so we're on the path to reopening and we're 141 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 4: going to see what happens with the healthcare fight. I've 142 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: heard a lot of Republicans today, including John Thune, say 143 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 4: we actually do want to work on that, Like we 144 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: don't want to see people's premiums go up two hundred 145 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 4: and three hundred one thousand dollars in January February and 146 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 4: blame Republicans. And so Leader John's is like we're going 147 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 4: to work on this. We will, but we just got 148 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: to open the government first and then we'll figure out 149 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 4: together how to go about this. 150 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see why the average person might blame 151 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: the Republicans because they're in charge of all the branches 152 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: of government right now. But a lot of people don't 153 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: know or don't understand, is with the Senate, you need 154 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: sixty votes, So you could have fifty three Republicans or 155 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: in this case, fifty two because one was against it, 156 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: you need another eight Democrats. And it was the lack 157 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: of those eight Democrats that caused the whole thing to 158 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: seize up. They had to cooperate, and for forty days 159 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: they weren't cooperating. Very good, Joe, thanks for coming on 160 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 2: and explaining. 161 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: To all that. 162 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 4: Of course, happy to do it all. 163 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,479 Speaker 2: Right, Joe Khalil, Washington, correspondent for Newstation, the cable television 164 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: news network. When we come back, well, I'll explain in 165 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: detail what the what the real dynamic was behind the scenes. 166 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 2: Because people the government. They made government complicated, so it's 167 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: not so easy to always just blame one side. And 168 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: the key in the middle there is the filibuster rules. 169 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: The Democrats might only have forty seven seats in the Senate, 170 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: but the Republicans need sixty votes. Any party needs sixty 171 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: votes to pass legislation, and that that is the secret 172 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: weapon in the Senate, which Trump wants to get rid 173 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: of because he finds it to be a pain in 174 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: the ass. 175 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: We'll talk more and when we come back. 176 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A 177 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 5: M six forty. 178 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: So the shutdown is on its way to ending, and 179 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: there is an agreement. There's eight Democratic senators who defected, 180 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: and that gives sixty votes to the Republicans to pass 181 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: this deal. But the big thing that the Democrats wanted 182 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: the shutdown was all over. What was all about Obamacare subsidies, 183 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: tax credits to people who signed up for Obamacare. And 184 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: the Democrats didn't get it. And that's why the progressive 185 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: crowd is so angry. They didn't get Granted, they didn't 186 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: get it. It's a complete cave in. But here's what 187 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: you need to know. These Obamacare subsidies were supposed to 188 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: be temporary. They were passed in twenty twenty one as 189 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: part of a COVID package. Now COVID is long long over, 190 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: but the subsidies continued, and that's real federal spending. If 191 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 2: you wonder why we're thirty seven trillion dollars in debt, 192 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: there's a lot of these situations. A temporary subsidy goes 193 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: on forever, and the Republicans said, no, oh it's over. 194 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: Party is over. No more subsidies. On top of that, 195 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: the subsidies go directly to the insurance companies. Doesn't even 196 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: go to the people, goes to the insurance companies. Now 197 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 2: the Democrats are saying, well, well, without these payments, you're 198 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: gonna have Obamacare premiums skyrocketing. All right, stop a second. 199 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: Maybe you don't remember because it's fifteen years now. You 200 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: got to go back to twenty ten. Obamacare was supposed 201 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: to lower premiums. That never happened. They kept going up 202 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: and up anyway, and then it got to the point 203 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: where they were skyrocketing. Well, then I guess that original 204 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 2: Obamacare plan doesn't work. 205 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: It's a failure. 206 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: So the public debate should not be about whether you 207 00:11:55,280 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: keep shoveling money into a failed program. The public ought 208 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: to be well, why is this thing failing? And maybe 209 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 2: it ought to be replaced. I mean, everybody's got an 210 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: opinion on what's wrong with healthcare, and almost everything is 211 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: wrong with healthcare. But what's pretty clear is what they 212 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: dreamed up in twenty ten does not work. Maybe it 213 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 2: worked for five minutes, but it's a failure as of now. 214 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: And of course the Democrats relye most politicians rely on 215 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 2: the public's ignorance. Ignorant voters our goal to politicians because 216 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: then these bastards can tell you anything, and you don't 217 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: know what to believe. We have a dishonest news media. 218 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: Hardly anybody has any time to explain it. So you 219 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: might think, well, this is terrible, premiums are going to skyrocket. Well, 220 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: skyrocketing premiums are terrible, but it needs to be fixed. Oh, 221 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: I don't know at the root cause it's a bad system. 222 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: Obamacare is a failed bad system. It doesn't you know 223 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: what the official name of OBAMACAREUS Affordable Healthcare ACA. You 224 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: might hear in the news stories they call it. They say, 225 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: you know, the ACA Act. It's not afforded, hasn't been 226 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: almost since the beginning, so it has to be replaced. 227 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: But nobody wants to have that fight. 228 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 4: Now. 229 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: The Trump people have an idea that if we give subsidies. 230 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: We ought to give it directly to you. You should 231 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: get the money and then you decide what you want 232 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: to spend it on. But if you give it to 233 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: the insurance companies, what do you think is going to happen. 234 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: They're going to take that money, and now they can, 235 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: they can jack up the cost. It's like the stupidest 236 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: thing was was giving my when the federal government gave 237 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: When the federal government guaranteed student loans, well, as soon 238 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: as all the universities realized that the loans were guaranteed, they. 239 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: Jacked up the tuition. 240 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: That's why you have seventy thousand and eighty thousand dollars 241 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: a year tuition because they know the loans that the 242 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: kids are taking out. Those loans are guaranteed by the 243 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: federal government. So the students desperate to get into the 244 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: right schools, they and their parents said okay, okay, well 245 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: we'll we'll pay, we'll pay their rents, and we'll pay 246 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: seventy or eighty thousand. The other half of the promise 247 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: was you were going to get great jobs. That part 248 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: didn't happen for a lot of people. The whole thing 249 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: is a racket, like student loans are a racket. Obamacare 250 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: is a racket. It's a racket everywhere you look. The 251 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: Democrats were trying to capitalize on two pieces of ignorance. 252 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: One is because Obamacare became like a sacred term in 253 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: politically society. If you criticized it, you were some kind 254 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: of Neanderthal savage. But it's a failure. It's objectively factually 255 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: a failure, doesn't work, needs to be replaced. Secondly, there 256 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: was a majority of people blaming the Republicans, and I 257 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: could see why, because, hey, they have the House, they 258 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: have the Senate, they have the presidency. Except in the 259 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: Senate you need sixty votes. In this case, you need 260 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: fifty three Republican votes and seven Democratic votes. There was 261 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: one Republican defector to the other side, so you needed 262 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: eight Democrats. They didn't have the eight Democrats for forty days. 263 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: The the proposition they were fighting over was an just 264 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: an extension, an exact extension of the same spending that 265 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: we've had for the last twelve months. The Republican said, Okay, 266 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: let's extend the spending for another seven weeks, try to 267 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: work out our issues. And the Democrats said no, unless 268 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: they were guaranted heed to have this Obamacare subsidy renewed forever. 269 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: And again it came out of COVID. There's no COVID. 270 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: It was meant to be temporary to help people out 271 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: with all the financial and medical struggles of COVID. It's 272 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: not the situation. Of course, it should not be removed, 273 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: and clearly it doesn't work. It just added to the problem. 274 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: It just made everything more expensive. The more the government 275 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: gives subsidies, the more it guarantees things, the higher the 276 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: cost will be. Because an insurance company or a university 277 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: free money for them, you know, the more they charge, 278 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: the more money they'll get from the government. Again, most 279 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: people are ignorant in that, because most people don't understand economics. 280 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: Most people still believe in their political leaders. But those 281 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: subsidies had to end. They have to come up with 282 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: a new plan, and the whole tame. It ended up 283 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: hurting who ended up hurting all the people who needed 284 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 2: food stamps. It ended up hurting the government employees who 285 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 2: didn't get paid, ended up hurting the ones who got 286 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 2: fired now being hired back. Ended up hurting the air 287 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 2: traffic controllers who had to go to work and not 288 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: get paid. 289 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: What was this? 290 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: This is stupid, stupid for a moment one, so the 291 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: Republicans did the only thing they could do. Oh, I 292 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: think they should have passed two temporary spending bills to 293 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 2: cover the food stamps and cover the air traffic controllers. 294 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: But now it's over, and it should be over and 295 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 2: it never should have happened. We'll talk more about this 296 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 2: later on in the show. 297 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 298 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 5: six forty every day. 299 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: We're on from one until four o'clock, and every day 300 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: after four o'clock you can go to the podcast John 301 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: Cobelt's Show on demand on the iHeart app and you 302 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: could hear what you missed. 303 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: Now. While while all. 304 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: The news was in Washington this week, Gavin Newsom flew 305 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: to Brazil to attend that idiotic climate change summit. You know, 306 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: the US Trump has pulled out of that nonsense. In fact, 307 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: most countries, I think most countries just send delegates there 308 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: so the delegates are rewarded. They can have the booze, 309 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: the food, and Brazilian prostitutes. 310 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: That's the purpose of the trip for most of these people. 311 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: Because most of the countries and they were complaining about 312 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: this at the conference. Have not come near their promised 313 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: goals of reducing greenhouse gases climate change emissions. This is 314 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: another failure. This has been going on for decades. It's 315 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: a complete failure. They get together every couple of years 316 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: and they just blow a lot of hot gas out 317 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: of their rear ends and they accomplish nothing. Most of 318 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: the countries they're not interested in this. Let me tell 319 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 2: you the way to go to succeed in the modern world. 320 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 2: Because the modern world is heading towards artificial intelligence and 321 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: they're going to be they're building massive data centers to 322 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 2: process artificial intelligence. Those data centers need enormous amounts of electricity. 323 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 2: And the companies that are building these data centers, and 324 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: this is hundreds of billions of dollars of investment, they 325 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: are going to states and countries where electricity is cheap 326 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: because they need huge amounts of energy. The energy has 327 00:19:52,640 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 2: to be extremely cheap, and that means natural gas, oil, nuclear. 328 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 2: Some of these data center plants are going to have 329 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: their own nuclear reactors. States and countries that have hydro 330 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: electric power. 331 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: That that's really really cheap. 332 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 2: States that use expensive energy like wind and solar which 333 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 2: is really a failed method. Now economically, states that have 334 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: high taxes, states like California, that economy is not coming 335 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: to California. They're not going to build too many data 336 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: centers here. The energy is way too expensive. But everyone 337 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: else is going to have the party, not here in California. 338 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: And it's because of a jackass like Gavin Newsom. And 339 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: he was speaking in Brazil, and you stick a microphone 340 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: in front of his mouth and you don't know what 341 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: you're going to hear. I thought the world pretty much 342 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: agreed that the fires have the federal investigation. They were 343 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 2: started by that arsonist. Right January first fire started by 344 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: the arsonist. LA Fire Department did not put out the 345 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 2: hot spot. They chose not to put out the hot spot. 346 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: In January second and Santa Ana Wins came and kicked 347 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 2: up that fire, and that's why the Palasades burned. 348 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened. 349 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 2: And Newsome now he goes overseas and he tells all 350 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: those pompfoons in Brazil, these climate pompfoons, that it wasn't 351 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: the arsonist. 352 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: Listen to his explanation. 353 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 6: Home values will start to decline. You're seeing it across 354 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 6: the spectrum right now. In my state included, which is 355 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 6: one of the most blessed and cursed states. As it 356 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 6: relates to climate, we're on the tip of the sphere 357 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 6: of climate change, simultaneous droughts and simultaneous floods. The hots 358 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 6: are getting a lot hotter, the dry is drier. You 359 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 6: saw one of the most devastating wildfires in American history 360 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 6: in the middle of winter in Los Angeles. 361 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: Well, stop, boy, there was so much horse manere in 362 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: that what was that thirty seconds? I didn't get even 363 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 2: halfway through on the dot seven thirty seconds. Yeah, I 364 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: can time his horse maneur flow. Good Lord. In the 365 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: middle of winter, we had a devastating fire. Santa Ana 366 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: winds blow off it in January. The Santa Ana winds 367 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 2: were the culprits, along with the arsonist. We don't have 368 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: traditional winter in southern California. But I guess he figured 369 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 2: the people in Brazil or the people from foreign countries 370 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: don't know this. Of course, you wouldn't have a fire 371 00:22:54,760 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: like that in a normal wintry climate. There'd be too 372 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: much snow, too much rain, to which fog be too cold. 373 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: We don't have that. We have the Sant Ana winds, 374 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: desert winds, which can happen anytime of the year, but 375 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: they frequently happened in January. So he's full of it. 376 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 2: He's lying to everybody there and he's focusing on the 377 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: fires as if climate change started the fires. 378 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: They did not. Obviously it was the artsilist. 379 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: He also started on state land, and it started on 380 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: land where the brush wasn't cleared like it was supposed to. Wow, 381 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 2: and then he did, the hots are getting hotter, the 382 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: drys are getting drier. 383 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 6: The hots are getting a lot hotter, the dry is drier. 384 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: Let me play you this cut. 385 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: This is from we played on the show January ninth, 386 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, two years ago. He was talking with 387 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 2: officials in northern California about the rain. He needed federal 388 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: funding to fight the rain, and he had a twist 389 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: on this line. 390 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: Play it. 391 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 6: People have referred to global warming. Now is climate change 392 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 6: to global weirding? You know, just you know hots, I've 393 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 6: said at one hundred times, hot's getting a lot hotter, 394 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 6: dry is getting a lot drier, but the wet's getting 395 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 6: a lot wetter as well. 396 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: The hot's getting hotter, the wet's getting wetter, the dry 397 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 2: is getting drier. So you see the genius of this 398 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 2: is it covers all the possible weather that we experience. 399 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: It used to be it was just global warming and 400 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: people didn't care. Okay, it's not just the hot's getting hotter, 401 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: it's the dry's getting drier and the wet's getting wetter, 402 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 2: which of course is Southern California's climate years ago. You 403 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 2: just have to go to any weather almanac online. And 404 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: I was always into the weather, even when I was 405 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 2: a little kid. So I was always into looking at 406 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 2: at at weather patterns, rain patterns, dry patterns over the 407 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: course of years since I was since I was like 408 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 2: eleven years old. And if you look, there's there's a 409 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 2: website called LA Almanac Almanac dot com la Almanac, and 410 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: you will see that wet years are often grouped together 411 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: and dry years are often grouped together. There's kind of 412 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: a mega weather cycle that goes on. We know this 413 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 2: just from experience. We had a couple of really wet 414 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: years in a row, and that's happened many times, and 415 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: then sometimes it's followed by some really dry years all 416 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: in a row. 417 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: They don't even know why this happens, but it just happens. 418 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: Well, he takes advantage of that, so that in the 419 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: dry years he said, ah, climate change drive is getting drier, 420 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: and then two years later the wet period socks. 421 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: Oh, now the wets are getting wetter. 422 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: That is normal weather for as long as they've been 423 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: tracking weather, as long as modern humans have been in 424 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: La for example, since like eighteen seventy one. Go look, 425 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: go to La hamlineck dot com. Go look at the 426 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: rainfall dating back to eighteen seventy one, and you will 427 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: see several dry years in a row, several wet years 428 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,239 Speaker 2: in a row, and there's almost a rhythm to it. 429 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to express my relationship to my. 430 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: Truth and the opening line of that first cup we 431 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: played from Brazil where he talks about home prices are 432 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 2: going to be going down. Where are they going down 433 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: in California? Show me that neighborhood anybody out there was 434 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 2: looking for real estate, any neighborhoods where it's cheaper now 435 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: than it was last year. I don't think there's one. 436 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 6: Nothing I dislike more than the politician that sits there 437 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 6: and lies to you. 438 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: But you know he can go to Brazil and sell 439 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 2: this crap again, and all the other pomp foods listening 440 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: to it. They're not really paying attention anyway. They got 441 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: food drinking prostitutes coming up tonight. That's all they care about, 442 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: you know. And to earn the right to enjoy the 443 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 2: food the drink of the prostitutes, you got to sit 444 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 2: through a windbag like Gavin Newsom, all right, will we 445 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 2: come back. Two dog stories, neither one of them pleasant, 446 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: not necessarily unhappy endings, such a tease. 447 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: It's just for you, thank you. 448 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM sixty. 449 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: Okay, two bad dog stories, although in this case, so 450 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: not to upset you too much, both dogs survive. 451 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: Thank you. 452 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: Dog number one. 453 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 2: In North Hollywood, Carla Vicuna said she's walking to her 454 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 2: four year old German Shepherd named a Treyu German Shepherd 455 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: Husky mix a Trayo started acting strangely, wouldn't settle down, 456 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: eyes moving in a weird way, and Carl and her 457 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: husband took the dog to the vet started getting him tests. 458 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 2: He had a fever, his heart rate elevated. It turns 459 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: out he had tested positive for meth. 460 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 7: Of course, because it's North Hollywood, well, it's the valley, 461 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 7: it's southern California. 462 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: They had walked through a neighborhood alleyway and they think 463 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: somewhere there he's sniffing around, he's chewing on something, and 464 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: he got a good dose of meth. He saw a 465 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: tray who grabbed something, but he couldn't tell what it was, 466 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: and he ate it real fast. 467 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 8: That's what happened to my dog. But it was marijuana, right, 468 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 8: But it was your own in the house, right, No, 469 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 8: it was. I keep forgetting this, you do. You're right 470 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 8: on the walk. Yes, did somebody just toss a joint? 471 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: I know it was a edible or something. A dog 472 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 3: was stone, remember, I I. 473 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: Remember, I remember it was woozy, right, A little. 474 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: More than woozy. I thought it was having a stroke. 475 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: Uh. 476 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: Carly here said this the second time her dog had 477 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: ingested drugs. 478 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 3: Oh well maybe you need to not walk in that 479 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: same place. 480 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, a few months ago, weed in the park. 481 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: Different. 482 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 483 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: See ye, so one a little bit of weed one day, 484 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: a little bit of. 485 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: Meth the other dog, and the dog survived. 486 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: Wow. 487 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of riff raff people around. It's 488 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: all they do, is they They just. 489 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: Ingest drugs all day and they walk around zombified poisoned dogs. 490 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: Now for the weed, he was drowsy, he was trying 491 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: to stand up and then he'd. 492 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: Pee on him. 493 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's exactly what happened to my exactly. 494 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: But you can see about the homeless people are in 495 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: the condition they're in now the other one. Uh and 496 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: and this is why every homeless encamp and are to 497 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: be cleared immediately, and nobody wants to go. They ought 498 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 2: to be arrested. This story alone, all right, mass arrest, 499 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: mass incarceration for all these street bumps. Florence Avenue in 500 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: South LA, a one year old shepherd mix. Some homeless 501 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 2: people set them on fire on purpose. It was intentional, 502 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 2: according to a rescue group. It was done by the 503 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: homeless people at the encampment. According Sandra Viveros with Compton 504 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: Paw Patrol, wait, why because they're odd meth and weed? 505 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: They're crazy people. 506 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 3: Oh god, this is horrible. 507 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: They set them on fire and he took off running 508 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 2: and he's in the hospital. Burns covering almost entire his 509 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,479 Speaker 2: entire body and third and fourth degree burns. I never 510 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: heard a fourth degree burns. Smoke inhalation and Luke, though, 511 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: will live. It'll take six more weeks and then they're 512 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: going to put them up for adoption. Sandy Vivero said, 513 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: he'll be able to live a very happy life. He 514 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: needs to heal. He might have some scars, but he'll 515 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: be okay. He's strong. 516 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: You know, there is there's a go fundme to help Luke. 517 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 7: So if you're interested, you go to kfiam six forty 518 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 7: dot com slash Luke so you can help pull Luke. 519 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: And somebody will adopt them probably. 520 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 7: And I think the homeless people that set Luke on fire, 521 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 7: we need to set them on fire. 522 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: Instant justice. Yeah, all right, No, I look, these people 523 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: have to be removed. I'm running a city and I 524 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: wake up and I find out these these these these 525 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: drug addicts and mental patients that I allowed or roam 526 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: the streets of Los Angeles have set a dog on fire. 527 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, just for sport, just for fun, to see what 528 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: would happen. 529 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, then we need to do the same to them, 530 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 7: just for fun. 531 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why we put up with this. 532 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: I'm so amazed at the horrific tolerance by Karen Bass 533 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: and all the rest of them for this stuff. 534 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 3: You tell them, John, I am. 535 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: Tired of this. I'm tired of reading these stories. 536 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 3: Almost I'm tired of hearing you read these stories. 537 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: They're setting dogs on fire, and there's now there's no no, 538 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: no policy to get rid of them, no policy to 539 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: put them in prison. They should be belonging to a 540 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 2: cycle ward. You're setting dogs on fire. Go to a 541 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: cycle ward. All right, we come back. Michael Monks. 542 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. 543 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 2: You know, the police always gets their budget cut by 544 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: Karen Bass, and they decided just to start hiring officers 545 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: on their own. They don't have the money for it. 546 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 2: I don't really understand this, and that's why Michael will 547 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: be here in minutes. Deborah Mark, Friend of all Animals. 548 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 3: Yes I am. 549 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: It's live in the KFI twenty four hour News. Hey, 550 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 2: you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You 551 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: can always hear the show live on KFI AM six 552 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 553 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 2: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app