WEBVTT - Draft Show_2_13.mp3 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:09.040 Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:12.799 for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:17.360 confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star Infrasco. And now 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:19.960 your host, Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:33.760 Today is Thursday, February thirteenth, and we are officially seventy 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:37.960 days away from the NFL Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.600 Welcome into the Draft Show presented by Miller Light, the 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:43.159 only beer the Dallas Cowboys. It's Miller time and it's 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.360 getting close to draft time. We've got Tommy yarsh Brian 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:50.760 brought us Vuch Lombardy with Jasmine Marshall running everything in 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.720 the back of Kyle Yeomans. Glad you're with the Shoutout Jazz. 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.080 Going to do a great job of putting up all 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.400 of the graphics and all the different things along the way, 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:04.000 filling in for Beemer to day. It's an interesting time now, Brian, 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:08.080 we've talked about the coaching staff and the waiting moments 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.600 we haven't necessarily addressed now that the staff has been 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.600 placed across the board, sure, so I kind of want 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.360 to hit that early and talk about what type of 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:20.400 impact will this group have on the NFL Draft if any. 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:22.240 Maybe it doesn't change a whole lot because of the 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:27.040 system and the accumulative staff that Will McLay has put 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.920 together over time. But what type of moment are we 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.640 in with a coaching change. And then, of course seventy 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.319 eight and seventy guys, which you got to think about 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:38.800 with when you have a new staff, is you're in 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:42.119 a situation where the new staff is trying to get 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.520 to know you, and you're trying to get to know 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:45.920 the staff the new staff. 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.160 So I remember with Bill Parcells when he came in, 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.400 it was about more about, Hey, I'm going to let 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.920 you guys run the draft because I'm trying to learn you. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.480 Here are the type of players I like. These are 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.000 the guys that I want to work with. Uh, you 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.040 know the you know, you kind of get an idea 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:06.320 of like how they want to the type of player 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.000 that they want, and talk to some people in the organization. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.960 They're right now, you know, they were waiting on that 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.239 staff to come together, and now they have an idea 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.800 of who they've got, and now these coaches can tell them, hey, 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.079 this is a type of offensive lineman I want. This 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.440 is a type of defensive tackle. These are the traits 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.840 I need in my cornerback here. So I think that 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:27.120 everybody has to be, you know, on point with that. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.400 But the coaches would be really, really, really smart if 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.119 they just allow these scouts to put. 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:33.760 This board together. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:35.400 And it's going to have to come from the top 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:39.960 with Brian Schottenheimer. He's going to have to say, all right, guys, coaches, 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.520 these guys are going to run it this first year. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.320 The second year, we'll make some adjustments from there. But 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.720 they're clearly now with the staff whole, they're able to 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.920 situate and figure out the type of player that they need. 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.520 And we've talked about it before on the show, and 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.240 you've you've mentioned how coaches here do have a say, 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.720 and they certainly have throughout the time here. And Will 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.280 McClay and his staff does a great job of compiling 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.760 the boards and putting the prospects on there to have 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.120 the conversation in the first place. But Mike McCarthy, Dan Quinn, 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.639 even Mike Zimmer last year, I mean, guys have been 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.440 known to have their input. Kellen Moore when he was 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.720 here on the draft board. How much do you feel 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:22.240 like seeing this staff come together with ebra Flus on 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.040 the defensive side, a veteran defensive coordinator who's run some 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.880 drafts in his own right. You've got Clayton Adams, a 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.400 first time offensive coordinator, with a first time head coach, 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:34.320 Nick Sorenson special teams coordinator with some defensive background. With 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.600 the coordinators put together, how much influence do you think 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:36.960 they'll have. 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.400 I think they'll have some. And the Joneses always allow 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.880 with the head coach really has the most. But the 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.840 one thing that Will McClay will do is that he 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.920 will get the opinion of the coaches who get the opinions. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:49.200 Of the scouts. 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.480 See, Will doesn't understand which one of these coaches can 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:55.280 really evaluate and see you have to be really really 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.440 careful with that if you put too much stock into 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.840 what a coach says. You know, if this coach is 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:02.680 one of those guys that's actually going to go and 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.600 do the work, or is he a guy that's going 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.040 to get on the phone and talk to his buddies. 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.200 Is he going to go to workouts and is he 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.080 going to talk to his buddies. Is he going to 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.760 get influenced that way? You have some coaches on the 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.960 staff that have not been in the National Football league. 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.320 You have some collegiate coaches, so it is. 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.839 Going to be very very new and eye opening to 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:26.120 them as well for how will manages them and how 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.320 they come to the decisions of their players. 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:30.880 How much have you kind of seen that in your 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.799 own study so far of what this coaching staff's put together. 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:35.920 Well, I think when you look at the staff, especially 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:37.960 on the offensive side of the ball, the identity is 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.120 very clear. They want to run the football and that's 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.040 where they're going to start everything offensively is establishing the 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.039 run games that I can open up the passing game. 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:45.320 Right. 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.560 But when we talked to Dak Prescott the other day, 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.760 he was telling us that, you know, hey, when we 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:51.240 get to run on the ball, being a little bit 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.880 more consistent. I've always enjoyed play action and that's where 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.839 he's been When Dak Prescott is at his best, it's 0:04:57.880 --> 0:04:59.960 when they're running play action. When you look at his career, 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:04.120 completed sixty seven percent of his play action passes and 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:07.279 twenty four yards fifty five touchdowns just thirteen interceptions. So 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.520 being able to get a guy in the I think 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.160 in the first three or so rounds to be a 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:16.119 play action back for you, you can take the ball, he can, 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.440 you can work off of him in the play action game, 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:20.480 I think is going to be what's best for this offense. 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.240 I think that's what the Cowboys are tipping their hand 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.680 to now. On the defensive side, with Matt Eberflus, it's 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.760 going to be his zone coverage team. Typically, the linebackers 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.400 and his system are very well and when you got 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.120 a guy like Michael Parsons, they're going to get after 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.040 the quarterback. So it's stuff that all marries very well together. 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:38.200 But I think that defensive backfield in the secondary is 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:39.680 going to be something to watch in terms of what 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.640 they go after in this draft, just because there are 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:45.039 certainly some guys in this class that can fit in 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:46.600 an eber flu system very well. 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.000 How do you feel about that as it all fits together? 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:52.360 Man, Kyla won't lie to you, Bro, I don't know 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.560 nothing about these coaches. I don't know a thing about them. 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:55.520 I never heard them. 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.280 I don't Well, then what would you want to see 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:58.480 if you don't know anything about it? 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.520 What would you want to see? Just just draft wise? Right, 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.240 I'm just watching players players, But just to add to 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.640 what we're saying right now, right, if there's anything that 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.040 I noticed about the Cowboys when they get new coaches 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.080 and they go and get they go and get these 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.760 new you know players, whether it be drafted and all 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:15.719 this free agents. Do you do you feel like they 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.839 lean towards the defensive coaches more like when when when 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.360 Nolan first got here, right, I was like, man, we've 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.359 signed a lot of defensive guys. We've drafted a lot 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.000 of defensive guys. Saying for Quinn, right, I was like, damn, well, 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.360 Quinn must be the head coach. We've signed and drafted 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.520 everybody for Quinn and you know, offense, get a handful 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.440 of guys here and there. So let me add that 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:35.280 to the come right, because I ain't got nothing else. 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.599 Because do you think that we're gonna go like in 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.600 that way, like like maybe we'll get the running back, 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.080 maybe we'll you know, go wide receiver, but everything else 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:42.960 is probably gonna be defense. 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:44.680 I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.760 Will running this draft. I think it's gonna be Will 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.560 putting this thing together. I think that I think that 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.600 Brian Schottenheimer's gonna do it in that way for him. 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.279 I think that it's gonna be really important for these 0:06:56.360 --> 0:07:00.000 coaches to understand how does this work with the Dallas Cowboys. 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.440 Don't get in the way of that. This team has 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.839 done a nice job of drafting over the years, and 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:06.400 a lot of it has to do with Will McLay 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.960 and the way that he sets the board. So I 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.800 would be if I was a coach on the staff, 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.120 a new coach, I would keep my mouth shut when 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:15.440 they asked me my opinion. I would give my opinion, 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:17.320 but I would do my work. I would do my 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.280 homework and make sure that when they do ask me 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:22.800 a question, I'm prepared. But I would if I was 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:24.520 a coach on the staff, I would learn as much 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:28.480 as I could right now about how things work, because 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.600 it is different from anywhere else that these Some of 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.160 these coaches have been in recruiting meetings and things like that, 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.080 so they understand how personnel has talked about. But this 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.400 is a whole different ball of wax for some of 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.480 these guys. And I think it's going to be from 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.640 up top with Brian Schottenheimer. He's going to have to 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.840 set the tone for his coaches and say, listen, hey, 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.400 I've been with these guys, let's trust these scouts. And 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.400 then they will find a way to pick up some players. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.080 I love the way you outline that because it's a 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.280 chance for all of this to mesh together, and that 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.760 chance starts right now. You don't have to wait until 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:01.640 the you don't have to wait until Proda's for all 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:03.760 of that to kind of piece together. So this is 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.840 a really crucial time for this coaching staff. Now when 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.200 you take the elements of the zone defense, let's start 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.280 on that side of the ball. Take the elements of 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.600 the zone defense that you're talking about, and what type 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:15.760 of system Matt Eberfluss is going to bring to the table, 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.520 and you marry that with this draft board of prospects 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.960 that we have in front. I'm looking at cornerback as 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.680 a spot that might be a little bit more of 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.240 a need than we anticipated early because of the health 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:30.040 of Trayvon Diggs is a question mark saw last year 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.000 the revolving door at cornerback, and the one steady hand 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.080 is Jordan Lewis. Well, guess what, He's an unrestricted free agent. 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.280 You may not have jaylu going in the next year, 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.560 and you've invested in that position recently. But out of 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.920 this this draft class, where would you feel comfortable taking 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.400 a cornerback, especially if it's one of those top three picks. 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.440 Top three picks, first round picks. 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.280 Yeah, first three, m twelve, Otch go ahead. 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.960 Twelfth overall and tem twelfth, Tommy Yards, John a Beahers 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:03.560 you take that. Got but but but I actually think, though, Kyle, 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.760 you don't have to go rounds one, two and three 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:07.960 with this. Now. You know, we don't have a four, 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:09.200 and that sucks every time we have. 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.439 It hurts every single time. But you know, me and 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:13.800 got Jonathan Mingo. 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.079 But me and you know Brian are just watching film 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.760 and we watched Kansas yesterday, right, Kansas defense, and we're 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.320 watching two Kansas corners that play a ton of zone 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.760 over there, Mellow and Kobe Kobe Bryant. They're not basketball players, 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:28.079 but Meloson and Kobe Bryant and both those guys they 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.000 play heavy zone and their ball hawk kind of guys. Right, 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.559 So if you're looking for corner I don't even think 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.120 you have to, you know, Ben to go first or 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.319 second round. You can wait till round five to you know, 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:43.080 most most most likely good guy Alexander from l Brians. 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.400 I know they get whooped all the time, but they 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.079 play a lot of zone. There's a lot of linked 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.240 over there. He can run around a little bit. There's 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:51.000 there's options. 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.400 He's there after the fifth or fourth. 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.520 The more corners you watch, the more guys just kind 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.240 of bumped down the listle little bit. I got a 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.920 tunnel ones, twos and threes. I'm like, damn, where did 0:09:59.920 --> 0:10:02.800 you have Alexander? I had him at three, but now 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:03.680 I got him late four. 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:04.240 Yeah. 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:06.600 I think that if you look at the two Kansas kids, 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:08.679 I think that they're right there with each other Jobson 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:12.679 and also too with Bryant, and I think Alexander's right 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:13.600 in that mix as well. 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:17.680 I have Kobe and Mellow touching tags at sixteen and 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:22.040 seventeen overall CB sixteen and seventeen, and then I'm looking 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.959 at Alexander. I must be higher on Alexander than you 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.200 guys are. Have him as a late second. I don't know. 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.440 I like the length. I like the ability to let 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.120 me pull up the scouting report. We talked to it 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.680 a little bit last time. He has a mean streak 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:40.080 to him, controlled the boundary fluid hips. Great length frame 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.040 would fit well in every scheme, is what I put. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:43.679 I think he would play better in zone than he 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.040 wouldn't man, and I like the link that he could 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:47.839 play a press man at the line of scrimmage too. 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.560 So he lacks ketchup speed. That's the real problem, is true. 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:51.559 Not a flyer. 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.080 Yeah, there's going to be a couple of cornerbacks in 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.079 this draft that are not going to run very well, 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.480 and all of a sudden, you're gonna go Okay. 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.360 I think he hits well. I think he's. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.320 Somewhere around around the fourth round myself. Yeah, I mean, 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:04.720 because what about forty times? 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:05.640 Oh forty time? 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:07.800 I'm sorry, I I think he's going to be in 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:11.000 the in the mid four five. If if I was Alexander, 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.560 I wouldn't run at the combine. I would just wait 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:17.840 till the pro day. And traditionally Loshu's pro day is 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:21.520 later than everyone else's. It's actually closer to like the 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:25.040 first of April, so they they give their guys an 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.400 opportunity to be able to get ready to run. And 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.600 so if I was Alexander, I I would not I 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.280 do all the drills and stuff like that, but I 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.800 would not venture to try and run run downhill. 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.120 I think an interesting case study in this in this 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.240 corner class that at least that I've seen. I don't 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.040 know about you guys in terms of where he is 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:47.800 is jan Yay. Thomas's brother is Mariah Thomas from Florida State, 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:49.560 sixt two hundred ninety eight pounds. Where do you guys 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:50.120 stand on him? 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.280 Second round? I have a third, yeah, a third two? Yeah, 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:54.120 I have a third two. 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.560 I thought he was he was okay at the Senior Bowl. 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.559 I wasn't wowed Kyle. I was affecting him to take 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:01.760 a lead. Yeah, I was all affecting a little bit better. 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:03.960 Maybe it was just some of you know, some of 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:05.400 these guys when you go to the Senior Bowl in 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.560 the Shrine Bowl, it's not their setting, right, and they 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.760 do better outside of those kinds of settings, and they 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.400 play better at eleven on them in which. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.280 Football film is much much better fit exactly well. 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.120 And that's that's kind of the case for a lot 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.360 of guys. And I've said this before, the corners I 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:22.480 think have the toughest assignment maybe out outside of offensive 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.960 linemen at the Senior Bowl because they're faced up with 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.000 these one on one drills. They're put on an island 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.000 and it's either figure it out or you've had a 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.280 bad week, right, And I think there was maybe one guy. 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:34.320 I mean, there were a couple of guys that stood out. 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.920 I thought up In Stout from Western Kentucky raised his 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.959 stock a little bit at the Senior Bowl. Maxwell harriston 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.720 the Kentucky corner had a good Senior Bowl process. But 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.199 for the most part, every other guy that I'm looking at, 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.240 Darian Porter out of Iowa State, Thomas out of Florida State, 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.960 Jalen Smith from USC they had ups and they had Downstow. 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:56.600 Carters though, because he's a tall, long, can't really turn 0:12:56.720 --> 0:13:00.080 that well guy, but he's like fast and so in 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.120 real life he may be a zone guy for you, 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.319 and they do all this man all this one on 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.400 one cover stuff at these bows and even on film 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:09.319 he does that. But in my mind, I'm like, hey, 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.720 you can run and you're tall, a go be a 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.920 cover three guy right back to the sideline deep thirds 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.120 bail out, like I think he'll be much better there. 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:18.960 So that's another problem we got to think about too, 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.880 is that these colleges will do one thing, but when 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.120 they get to the league they may have a whole nother idea. 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:24.680 For these guys. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.800 How much do you play a factor. When you're scouting 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.280 these corners and you're going in, you're looking at length. 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:32.880 But I mean that's that's almost the plus side length. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.560 That could hurt your draft stock because you don't move 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.840 as well. I think Porter moves exceptionally well for being 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.240 six foot four or whatever he ended up being measured at. 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.720 Sure, you just got to use your imagination. You just 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.800 have to use your imagination. Like Barron is a fantastic 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.319 example of that. Like they move him all over all over, right, 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.360 you're not gonna move that much in real life. 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:54.880 Baron's five to eleven. I mean that's different than six 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:55.320 foot four. 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.720 I think he'll be a fantastic nickel. I think he'll 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.560 do some cool outside things. I don't see a whole 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.360 bunch of safety in his future. I don't see a 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.840 whole bunch of linebacker in his future. So in real life, 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:05.880 if you just narrow these guys down to one job, 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.120 they'll be totally different. So that's what I had to do, right, 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:09.840 So if you go into it, yeah, man, I saw 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.520 some Johdy Barons table. He was at a free and 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.200 I didn't really like him at free saving too much. 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.360 You have to use your He's not gonna be there, right, 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.240 Just imagine him at nickel corner. Most likely he's probably 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.960 gonna chase people around. You know, play on, play on 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.440 both sides of the field, and that's where you take 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.600 those risks. But just get rid of all the other rips. 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.080 And I'll add this, sorry, Brian, go ahead, Jeff, But 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.320 in the Matt Eberflus defense, when you look at what 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.240 he did in Chicago with Kyler Gordon at that nickel spot, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.440 Nichols tend to have a lot of success when the 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:39.760 Matt Eberflus defense is playing at their best. So if 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.080 they want to approach it as Jordan Lewis bring him back, 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.000 then that's going to be huge for Jordan Lewis because 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:46.880 I think he would flourish in that kind of system. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.200 If Jordan Lewis has an understricted free agent decides to 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.760 go elsewhere, then do you take a Jade Barron and say, hey, 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.200 this is our nickel guy, this is our nickel guy. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.120 But is twelve too rich for him? 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:57.240 Is? 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.080 It would be the question if if you like the 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.080 player taken it to well, I mean if you like 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:04.280 the player to me, all I heard was Brian Branch 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.480 with this kid and and he's he's not Brian Branch. 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:11.240 He's more Trent McDuffie from Kansas City than he is 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:11.960 Brian Branch. 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:13.160 So people were. 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.160 Talking about even my son who goes to school at Texas, 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:16.880 and you know, he's like, Dad, you got to watch 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.320 this kid play, and then you watch him play and 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.760 he is the cover aspect. The things like that are 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.680 just outstanding with him. The ability to carry some routes, 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.400 the quickness, the ability to turn the ball, hawking, all that. 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.520 Brian Branch to me, is like a linebacker guy, a 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:34.040 safety guy, you know, can play at the corner, bigger, bigger. 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.480 I think Baron's just more of a corner than he 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.800 is that guy that can do all the things that 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:39.800 we just described. 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.880 It's it's an interesting case because you've got Baron Hunter. 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.560 I've heard Will Johnson, I know, we talked about him 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.840 just briefly the other day. And then the other guy 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:52.960 that I have in the first is Trey Amos out 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:56.160 of Old miss. I haven't heard much about him. What 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:57.520 do you think about Amos? 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.360 I thought he had I thought he had an okay 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.360 Senior Bowl. Yeah, I thought he was good. I just 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.960 think that that that is again it's a tough environment 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.920 for corners because you don't really get a great gauge 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:10.040 or a safeties defensive backs in general. Yeah, whatever you 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:11.880 want to call it, it's not great because it's so 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.920 much one on one and like like Tess Johnson for 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.800 example at Oregon, I mean, he's just these guys just 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.000 don't stand a chance one on one because he's so fast. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.720 But Amos is another one of those guys who I 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:24.360 would think is deserving of that great I've got a 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.760 second on him, but you know, sometimes it's just the 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:28.520 tough environment. 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:29.920 He's a loose hipped guy. 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.320 And when you watch him play, you know, especially if 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.480 you watch the Georgia game and beck Beck doesn't go 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:39.160 at him at all. I mean, they are worried about 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.240 how well this guy plays man cover. You put this 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.760 guy in press, he is going to be hard to 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.480 get away from him. He's a willing tackler. He's physical. 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.360 There's a lot to like about this kid. And again 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.520 I don't have the Senior Bowl measurements on him. With 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.680 six is what I've been working off of. But this 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:58.160 kid tracks the ball, he plays press. You know, he's 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.880 he's he's a fluid moving player. Somebody's gonna fall in 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:03.920 love with this kid. But you know it's he's got 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:07.720 an interesting background, yep, because he went to school Louisiana 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.120 and then he went to school at Alabama and now 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.160 he's at Old Miss, and you kind of wonder, okay, 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:16.680 was what's going on there? Why the why the double transfer? 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.600 We see guys going from one place to another, but 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:23.000 why the double transfer? Why leaving Alabama too? Is another 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.240 thing you kind of have to ask yourself. So dig 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.679 in coaching staff, now dig in on it could be 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.640 dig in on that. But also, this guy's an outstanding 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:31.359