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How you doing, sir? 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.360 Thank you for having me boss, I appreciate it. Thanks 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.720 happening for well you know, you know, I uh, when 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:46.560 I started this show, money Making Conversations, and um, it's 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:51.200 about entrepreneurship. It's about entertainment. Um. And I'm out there 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.840 managing Steve's career, management, own writing and producing career. And 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.360 uh and I've just, I guess, keep seeing the evolution 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:02.320 of you, uh, from a model, from an actor, and 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.720 I just wanted to take the time before we started 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:08.040 getting into the projects to talk about that evolution, because 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.480 I'm sure that they took you into some uncharted waters 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.480 talked to us about that transition. Yeah, well, you know, 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.280 I mean I I started my career in the entertainment business. 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.000 I was discovered by the four Minland agency when I 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.800 was nineteen, and you know, my career quickly took off. 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.680 I moved to New York and you know it was 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:33.560 in a lot of really major campaigns, from Abercrombie and 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.600 Fitz to Timmy Hill. Figure when did he started, Sean John? 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.920 He he made me the face of of the of 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:44.720 the line for a few years. And you know, I obviously, 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.520 you know, thought about you know, I thought about my 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.600 life a lot. My parents always talked about legacy. Um. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.120 You know, both my parents been married for the years 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:57.320 and um, you know, they always talked about legacy and 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:01.320 and um, you know, being at they always was skeptical 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:05.240 about me getting into the entertainment business. My dad works 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.120 for the government and my mother is on the school board. 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:16.119 Nothing career that's career employment right there, brother, career employment exactly. 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.120 So I you know, I was doing really really well 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.240 in the fashion business, but I was always thinking about 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.120 what my life was gonna look like when I was 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:27.320 thirty and forty, and you know, I always thought about 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.120 down the road, and you know, I didn't want to 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.160 be the guy who you know, was still trying to 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.880 model or go to auditions when I was thirty and 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.440 forty years old. So really, um, you know, even though 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.800 I was doing really well, it was, now, you weren't 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.480 an interesting point. Yeah, you know, I was doing okay, 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.480 but it was an interesting point in my life. I 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:52.040 felt very Uh I was. I was depressed, and y'all 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.160 was you know. I had times when I was depressed 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.440 because I was just like, you know, this can't be it. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.520 I know that that I want to do more. And 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.640 that's when I really started thinking about making that transition 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.640 into writing and producing. And you know, I when when 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.400 you know, I was staying in the house for days 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:14.600 at a time and just watch movie, you know, watch 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:18.640 older movies. I watched like everything Hitchcock made, and you know, 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:23.240 Stanley Kubrick and even Kazin and you know John Cassavetti's 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.640 I just started really getting into watching films. And that's 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.880 when I, um, you know, I started writing. I decided, 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:31.640 you know, I wanted to be a writer producer, and 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.360 I started working on my first screenplay, which was Video Girl. 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.320 M m M. Now he's an interesting thing about it. 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.000 I want to tell people about our relationship because when 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:44.480 he was modeling modeling and he was transitioning into acting, 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.640 and that's when we met on sitcom. And the thing 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:49.960 about him that I'm so proud of, and I have 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:53.120 to say, I take this with pride, which because he 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.920 was never satisfied with just doing the lines. He wanted 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.360 to understand the whole process. And so he's sit in 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:02.400 my office, he said, and just pretty much bug me 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.120 to give him enough information just like do he can 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.039 understood And it was always there. But but but but 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.000 that was a fearless nature about you that even back then, 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.520 you know, I knew then that you were not I 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.680 believe me, I'm not a visionary. I didn't know the 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.239 evolution of what you are today one of the top 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:26.120 producers and creative minds in Hollywood today, young minds. Let's 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.239 go and put that in prospective young minds in Hollywood today. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:31.880 When you when you were sitting back there just asking 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.440 me questions, other producer's questions, what was the what was 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.479 the thought process? Because we would just bring you in 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.520 there trying to help you transition, give you an acting opportunity, 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.760 because you want to be more than just a model. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:47.440 At the time. Yeah, I mean I just like I'm 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.400 I'm a big student of the business. You know, I 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:54.640 researched a lot of people's careers and you know, and 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:58.960 and obviously you know, uh, what you and Steve has 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.840 been able to do has been amazing. I mean, that's 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:07.200 that's it's really really big, you know, uh, you know, 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:12.200 entrepreneurial minds. You know, opportunities you've given to so many 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.839 people you know that look like us. I mean, it's 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:18.400 it's just you know, incredible. Um. I think for me, 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:21.200 I just wanted always, like I said, I always thought 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.920 about just having longevity. And I think when you when 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.520 you were able to create your own projects, you know, 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.160 I think the town has to respect you better. You know, 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.919 like you you're not just somebody waiting by the phone 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.520 for somebody to give you a job. So, you know, 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.240 when I even when I looked at the people like 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.520 the George Clooney's and the Brad Pitts, and even the 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.680 way you know, Brad Pitt and and you know, I 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.479 mean even the way Matt Damon and and that athlet 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.560 got into business by sort of righting themselves in the 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.840 business because they wrote good will hunting. Um. The feeling 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:55.440 that they want to ask me for. I just think 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.080 that the town, you know, and people like John Favreau 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.400 who wrote Swingers and he you know, he was acting 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.359 and stuff. Now he's one of the biggest directors on 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.680 our business. I just think that you have to be you. 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.880 You have to do more things than than just one 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.040 and you know when you can, you know, create your 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:16.360 own projects again. I just think that's that's just a 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.920 different level of respect in our business that comes with 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.440 that versus just being looked at is sole me just 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.200 a talent. Here's a great thing about it. On the phone. 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.760 He's on the phone. He's the creator and executive producer 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.800 the hit WE TV franchise Growing Up hip Hop, which 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.920 is currently in his fourth season and spending off a 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:38.520 Miami version to add to the New York in Atlanta series. 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:44.239 Uh Datari Turner, Tatari. Let's talk about that whole process. First, 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.600 the original concept, the original show, Growing Up hip Hop, 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.680 and now the franchise that we here we see on 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:55.400 TV the housewives type franchises. That is, uh, what makes 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.480 me most proud about what you accomplishing. You know, you're 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:03.080 making money while you're sleeping. Yeah, yeah, I mean you know. 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.760 But for me, I always you know, my my mission 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:10.760 statement in life. I just I feel like everything that 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.520 I do it has to have a real message of 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.800 why I'm doing it, Like I never wanted to do something, 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:21.240 uh just just for money, you know, because images are 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:25.240 really powerful, you know, you know, I mean they say 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.280 that what we do in Hollywood is not brain surgery. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.560 But you know, if you really think about it, you know, 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.960 this is the reason why America is still a superpower 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.760 really is because of our entertainment business. We're not topped 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:43.439 in in education. You know, uh China, how many OWDs 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.400 half of us would be we are dead like crazy, 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.640 and then we now have other militaries that rival are. 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.480 So the reason why we're really a superpowers because of 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.559 our entertainment industry. When we release a movie, it's the 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.400 number one movie in the world. You know. Our movie 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.679 stars are the biggest movie stars in the world. Are 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.560 even all reality stars are? But I grown up hip 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.959 hop really was. You know, she's playing a long time ago. 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.560 You know. I remember when I created my first TV show, 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:13.560 to Olt and Hustler with Damon Dash at BT. You know, 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.920 Damon says something to me that always stuck with me. 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.040 You know, him and jay Z were sort of going 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.160 through their break up at the time. You know, they 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:26.520 both said when they when they started Rockefeller Records, you know, 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:31.800 they named their company after this legacy, you know, white 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:35.720 family because they didn't know of a lot of black 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.560 familacies that had black families that had generational wealth and 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.920 had legacies like the Rockefellers. So that always stuck with 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.800 me because at that time, you know, didd he was 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.880 coming up with them, and even Russell Simmons hadn't had 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:53.880 kids or been married to Camara yet, so they named 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.560 their company after this rich wife family, and I was 0:09:56.600 --> 0:10:00.120 just like, that's you know, I'm thinking about that and 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.240 how my parents always talked about legacy. Now through hip hop, 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:08.920 you have these wealthy families that have second second generation 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.760 as well. So I just you know, when you know, 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:16.920 I was I hired you know, Angela's sister Vanessa Simmons 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:20.640 for a movie I produced called Dysfunctional Friends, and how 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:24.520 that came about, uh, you know, then the Chevy company 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.680 reached out to me. They wanted me to create sort 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:31.520 of like a web series for their site because a 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:33.760 lot of these brands now trying to really get into 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:39.320 content and so they exactly. So, so I came up 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.760 with a with a web series called Celebrity clauset Raid, 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.400 and I'll reach back out to Vanessa to have her 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.320 do it, because you know, they have these you know 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.640 clauses that have like hundreds of thousands of dollars worth 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.600 of close and she couldn't do it at the time 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.680 that she was pregnant, but she said, you should do 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.960 my sister Angela because she has you know, quarter million 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:04.400 dollars and shoes in in closes. So I hired Angela 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.200 to do this show and then we you know, we 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.880 became you know, good friends, and um, you know, she 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.720 was looking to get back in the reality TV and 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.560 so we both you know, set out to try to 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.719 get her a show and then we were unsuccessful in that. 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.520 And then that's when I came up with the idea too. 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:25.960 You know, I was like, well, how about we doing 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:29.280 with all of the legacy kids. Let's go get Romeo. 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.200 Let's go get Romeo mask the p I had just 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.720 produced a movie car a Girl Like Grace that Romeo 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.440 was in, and uh, you know, I went back to 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.160 Damon Dash, who I had who I did my first 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.720 show and now his son was grown boogie and uh, 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:49.480 it really was just me calling all relationship relationship exactly. 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.800 That's what Drift we did as well. Let's uh, let's uh, 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.280 let's get ready for the next break. Here my friend 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.800 I'm on the phone with I want to call my friend. 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.240 I want to call somebody that I met and saw 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.320 him just become a force in Hollywood, s Torre Turtler. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.240 We bere back with more because we want to hear 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.840 about a boar, a girl, a dream, and that showtime 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.920 series that you're doing, the NBA Draft with Lebron James. 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.280 I'm back money making conversation. Not only am I back, 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.959 but he's still on the phone my next guests. As 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:21.360 you heard earlier, is the most prolific independent producer in Hollywood. 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:26.240 Thirty producer credits, six Sundance films, they ate Film Festival 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.480 Award nominations, and one hundred plus hours of original TV 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:34.320 programming for WE TV, Oxygen, b Et, TV one, and Stars. 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:36.400 And we just talked about. One of is the projects 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.760 to expanding becoming the franchise UM. He's the creator and 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:43.080 the executive producer of the hit WE TV franchise Growing 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.920 Up Hip Hop, which is currently in his fourth season 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.760 and it's spinning off a Miami version to add to 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:56.000 the New York and Atlanta series. Spending Off. Yeah, spending off. Okay, 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.720 you know when I hear that, man, that's all I hear. 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.120 When I hear that, Mr turn Mr Turner. Now when 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.599 you say spending up, I gotta say, Mr Turner. I 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:06.720 can't call anybody your first name no more, Mr Turner, 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:12.319 because you become the mogul. Now I'm following and footsteps 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:16.280 that people like yourself, Steve and and and you know, 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:19.760 magic and a lot of brilliant minds that have come 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.920 before me. I'm just you know, just trying to uh 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.280 to uh make it happen. Thank you. That's That's about 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.880 integrity in your series now, because you know, when you 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.600 have one, you can control it and you can you 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.080 can build in and you have to. Now you in 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:40.120 several different locations taping season. The cast. People have expectations, 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.200 people have personal goals. You might you might be producing series, 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.080 but other people come on these series. They have agendas. 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.600 So how do you manage all that? And with this 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:51.680 new show and then as as you were starting to 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.240 branch out, how do you manage all this talent. Their 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:58.520 expectations there, their managers, their PR people, they're trying to 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:02.280 market up. They see the this is a giant Info commercial. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.080 How do you manage all this? Well? I oh, that's 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:10.080 a great question, Sean. I I think you know, playing 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:15.120 sports my entire life, I think that it really has 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:19.760 helped me in being a producer because you know, one 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.280 of the things that you know you're growing up playing sports, 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.640 you uh, you have to you have to play with 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.080 a lot of kids and you guys, even if you 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.480 come from different backgrounds, or even if you don't, these 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.960 are kids you would necessarily hang out with outside of sports. 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.960 You all have the same goal and that is to 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.080 win a championship. So you know, you gotta you guys 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:45.080 gotta work together to to to to meet that to 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:49.360 accomplish that goal. I think being a producers is similar 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.680 you think about like think about coaches in the NBA. Everybody, 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.480 every coach in the NBA can draw plays the same. 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.480 That's why they in the NBA. I think the coaches 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:00.880 that are able to separate themselves, like the Phil Jackson's 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.800 and the Popoviches, they they they know how to manage 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:09.360 egos better than other coaches. That's why they are where 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.600 they are. And I think for me being you know, 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.640 being a producer and trying to keep this franchise on 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.400 a number one, I can't do it, you know by myself. 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.000 You know, I work with a lot of talents and 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.920 people behind the scenes that that aid me and that. 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:27.080 But as a person that you know, has the relationships 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.880 with the talent and you know, a big you know, 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.960 just really believe in nurture in these relationships. Uh, you know, 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.640 the talent. Obviously you come up with things that their 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:44.240 their challenges and you know you're dealing with of course, 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:48.160 of course, but I think that you know what what 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.560 everybody what you know, we all realize in the end 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.200 and always stressed this too. Is that listen, you know, 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.400 this is this is a positive show. You know, this 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.520 is a this is about black legacy, This is about 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.840 black excellence. This is sort of like the Avengers of 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.400 hip hop families. You know a lot of times people 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.240 say that, you know, black people like, we don't we 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:14.640 don't come together like this like some of the other races. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.200 So you know, these are things that I think Romeo, 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.800 I think him and him master P I think they 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.920 understand that um, you know, I think the Sinner's family, 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.880 I think they understand that. And you know, it's really 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:30.200 been a great it's really been a great experience working 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.040 with everybody. Like you said, it's it's always going to 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.360 be challenges, but for the most part, we we all 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.760 know that. You know, we're playing our party and something special. 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.600 Let's talk about this upcoming from A boy, a Girl, 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:46.840 a dream, a Namimne one take love Story starring Mr 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:51.480 Power himself or Mari Hoddrid come on that making good 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:55.520 j Ellis Kenya birds, come on, tell us about that? 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.000 And you said it was recently acquired by Samuel or 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:01.440 gold and Golden Films. Tell us about that project? And 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:06.440 uh and when when when would be released? Well, so 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:10.119 so you know, uh we premier at Sundances. Just so 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.200 lets just to take it back. You know how the 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:16.399 film Mark came about. Uh so this talented writer, director 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.080 Constant Resort, I met at the dinner that able do 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:23.680 renet through as Sundance and two thousand twelve and name. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:27.280 You know, we're just throwing that name. Don't that name? 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.600 Like you know you did? Like she regular, like she regular, 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.159 continue continue, I was I'm a step on you a 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:40.560 couple of times shout out to a obviously doing the 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.399 true indostand in the business and a real, real Hollywood force. 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.680 But yeah, so mere constant. We stayed in contact over 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:51.280 the years, and um, he you know, always talked about 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.920 working together. He called me with an idea he wanted 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:57.480 to do I love story. Initially before you know, we 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.480 you know, sort of developed it out. And obviously, um, 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.760 you know, love is a thing that that buys us 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.040 all together. You know that we we all deal with 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:10.400 love every single day, whether we are fighting for love, 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.520 whether we're falling in love, falling out of love. You 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.760 don't want to be validated a boy love. It's really 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.960 all about love. And so, um, he said he wanted 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.920 to shoot it in one take. And for me, you know, 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.159 as a guy who's made a lot of film, you know, 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.800 I always I'm always open to challenges. I want to 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:32.440 do different things creatively. I saw a film, you know, 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.240 Alfred Hitchcock did in the fourties called Rope, which he 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:39.119 shout in one take. And also this uh, this uh 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.040 Italian movie called Victoria, which was shout in one take. 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.240 So that was Those are two of the things that 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.240 really drew me to the project. And then the election happened, 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.240 and you know it really touched a lot of people, 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:54.960 really really deeply. Um. You know, I was I was 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:58.480 at my parents house when when that happened, and he, 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:00.800 you know, the director call me that night and he 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:03.600 was really affected by it. And you know then that 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:07.280 that became the basis of where we wanted to base 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.280 this night of like these two people meeting each other 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:14.680 and and you know, changing each other's lives for for 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.359 the good. Um. But I think you know the film 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:19.680 is a is a faith based film, not in the 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.840 traditional sense, but us about faith, hope and dreams and 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.440 sometimes people, you know, we come out to l a 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:28.639 and we come out to New York with these dreams 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.639 and we get beat up a little bit. They don't happen. 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:34.119 Our dreams don't happen as quick as they should. And 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:36.760 you know, some people give up, you know, or they 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.560 get married or meet you know, start having kids, and 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.280 then five years later, you know, you're on the hamster 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:44.560 wheel and you kind of like let your James fall 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:48.240 by the wayside. But I love the fact that faith 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.639 faith because you know, that's a that's a that's that 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:54.600 hidden gym that Hollywood keeps trying to lock in and 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:56.680 UH and has an audience out there and has a 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:00.320 growing audience. They want this type of faith him and 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:02.720 not only an African American market, but also in the 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:06.520 journal market as well. So again the visionary that you 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.920 are sitting up to setting up shop, you know, focusing 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.640 on the movie that will feel good movie. And that's 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.000 what I like about your brand is that your brand 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:18.440 is about feeling good. Is not explored eive and I 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.000 really like that. Let's let's close to that with this, UH, 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.400 this last new series you're doing with UH with Lebron James, 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.520 tell us about that. Yeah, you know, this is like 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:30.879 a long time coming. You know, his Lebron's agent, Rich 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.920 Paul is a longtime friend of mine. We we've we've 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:35.920 known each other for a long time and you know, 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:39.240 we we always talked about film and TV projects before 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.840 even Lebron you know, came to Hollywood and set up 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:46.760 shop and started producing things. And so you know, NBA 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:50.600 Drafts is you know, it's a multi part series at showtime. 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.280 UM that we're doing this just sort of like exploring 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:57.440 the impact of the n b A and what what 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:00.639 it's had on what the NBA, the effect that it's 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.960 had on popular culture and hip hop and how all 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:08.360 of these things you know, um have you know impacted 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.000 because like taking and it's about draft. So like the 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:14.639 nineties six draft, to me, I feel like is the 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:17.600 most influential draft for a lot of reason. There's been 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:21.240 some good ones obviously eighty four with Jordan's and Barkley 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.320 and in Elijuan, but I think the nineties six draft 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.119 will ultimately have the most Hall of famous because you 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:30.359 got Allen Iverson, you got Kobe Bryant, you got Steve Nash, 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:35.200 You've got Ray Allen, you got Ben Wallace. Uh, you know, 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:36.880 all those guys are going to the Hall of Fame. 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:40.439 But I think even the impact of how sports changed, 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:43.639 the NBA changed with that draft. You know, you know, 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:48.680 tattoos came in that draft, braids, you know, ice and 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:54.080 jewelry and you know that exactly. And hip hop really 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:57.359 like you know, became a staple you know at the 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:00.960 NBA game sitting courtside, you know, star with that that 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:04.080 year ninety six, you know, Tupac died that year jay 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:07.760 Z released this, his uh debut album, Who's Now a 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:10.920 Sports Agent? And his you know at times, you know 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:14.880 actually owned the piece of the the nets at one point, 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.800 so you know, it's just talking about exploring the impact 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:22.080 of popular culture in the NBA, and and and you 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:24.440 know everything. Like like I said, everything that I do, 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:26.600 I just wanted to have a meeting behind it and 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:30.000