Speaker 1: What do you call two guys that were there win?
Speaker 1: This happened back to return at Spurlock.
Speaker 2: Michael Spurlock of the cham He's to the twenty, He's
Speaker 2: to the twenty.
Speaker 3: Five Parlo thirty to the forty yard line.
Speaker 1: We could see history.
Speaker 2: Fifty forty to the thirty yard light.
Speaker 1: Michael run, Michael Luck.
Speaker 2: Michael run, touchdown, Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3: There you go in.
Speaker 2: That shot gun sends wee receivers left. Here's the staff
Speaker 2: of the glitzer has picked up Brady Unity.
Speaker 1: Caught ball ups. He has the record at the eleven
Speaker 1: yard line.
Speaker 2: Mike Evans becomes the first NFL player in lead history
Speaker 2: to record a thousand yards of more of this first
Speaker 2: seventh season, and.
Speaker 3: Want to throw by Brady.
Speaker 1: Congratulations Mike Evans. Who can forget Gann looking gat holds
Speaker 1: up the hats the other side. Derek Bucks thirty touchdown.
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay. Derek Brooks the.
Speaker 2: Most pariable player in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: There it is Dot Daggers in We're gonna win the
Speaker 1: super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Here's the snap.
Speaker 1: Mahomes running to his right.
Speaker 2: Lookout he may run Mahome director.
Speaker 1: Now battle inner seven.
Speaker 3: Picked over the ins on Fox. I gotta beat the Chief.
Speaker 1: Where the chapters of the world that we still have.
Speaker 1: I'm in a thirty three ago.
Speaker 2: Damn it, White, what a great second season.
Speaker 1: That's it for Casey Fox. All the Super Bowl champs,
Speaker 1: they can't stop the plot. We call them the Salty Dogs.
Speaker 3: Welcome everybody to the Salty Dogs Podcast. Yes, I'm Scott Smith,
Speaker 3: I'm Jeff Ryan, and we're the Salty Dogs. We are
Speaker 3: and we are happy for the fourth week in a row.
Speaker 1: Totally totally nuts.
Speaker 3: Four game winning streaks are fun.
Speaker 1: You know, LF just got smoother, and you know what,
Speaker 1: the coffee tastes better.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, I don't like coffee. Who knew. No,
Speaker 3: we had a we had a hot chocolate station in
Speaker 3: the press box too. That was new.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that was That was Danielle Burns, I know.
Speaker 1: And she did a terrific job.
Speaker 3: And she made it very festive with these little jars
Speaker 3: filled with like, yeah, chocolate covered and yogurt covered prets,
Speaker 3: little candies and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's very good. It was a nice tree.
Speaker 3: It made it very festive. And so did the win.
Speaker 1: Yeah I did it. I didn't notice about Christmas Eve.
Speaker 3: I thought the locker I made a point of saying
Speaker 3: this to a couple of people on Wednesday when we
Speaker 3: were here in the locker room for the open locker
Speaker 3: room session.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: The locker room was very lively this week, like a
Speaker 3: lot of guys in different pockets were having a lot
Speaker 3: of fun and being loud and joking around.
Speaker 1: Before the game or after.
Speaker 3: On Wednesday for the game, Oh here, yes, yeah, I
Speaker 3: thought vibe. I thought the vibe was fantastic in the
Speaker 3: locker room. And that doesn't necessarily mean anything, you know,
Speaker 3: but afterwards, if you try to make connections and go, well,
Speaker 3: you could tell they were loose. You know, they're feeling it.
Speaker 3: There could be something to that. It's not quantifiable.
Speaker 1: Well, no, but I think there's a lot to it.
Speaker 1: I think the cohesiveness of the team is really coming together.
Speaker 1: And I keep thinking about what Dave Canalis had said
Speaker 1: in the very very beginning that it was going to
Speaker 1: take a little bit of time, and it just seems
Speaker 1: like it's it's coming together. And when you have success,
Speaker 1: of course, it breeds success.
Speaker 3: Success breeds belief. There you go, and then that makes
Speaker 3: the you know, the players are buying in, they know
Speaker 3: it works.
Speaker 1: Right, It has been for the last four weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about now a thirty to twelve win
Speaker 3: over Jacksonville, which really wasn't even that close. They got
Speaker 3: a couple of garbage time touchdowns when the Bucks were
Speaker 3: playing the kind of defense that you play in order
Speaker 3: to make them run the clock off. And before that
Speaker 3: they the Jaguars couldn't do much of it all. I mean,
Speaker 3: they put up some yards, especially in the passing game,
Speaker 3: not in the running game, but the Buccaneers defense was
Speaker 3: swarming and creating turnovers, four of them in fact, after
Speaker 3: which we commediately yeah, yeah, the first drive Devin White. Yeah,
Speaker 3: which is an interesting story. That's a whole other thing.
Speaker 3: So we didn't talk about it a lot last week.
Speaker 1: Well, there was really nothing to talk about.
Speaker 3: I thought it had been kind of talked about more
Speaker 3: than it shut out. Yeah, but Devon had not played
Speaker 3: for three weeks and coach Bulls had told him before
Speaker 3: the Green Bay trip once he told Coach Bowls before
Speaker 3: the premay trip that he didn't think he was ready
Speaker 3: to go right, he had been dealing with a foot injury. Well,
Speaker 3: he came back in this game and did not start
Speaker 3: the game. kJ Britt did, which gives you the impression
Speaker 3: that he was, that Devin White was was there to
Speaker 3: play in Nickel Peck. Now, the thing that happened.
Speaker 1: Was we played a lot of nickel.
Speaker 3: They played about eighty seven percent of their snaps with
Speaker 3: three receivers, so we were in nickel pretty much the
Speaker 3: whole game. So Devin White actually went back to playing
Speaker 3: almost a whole game. Yeah, and kJ Briddle he played
Speaker 3: three snaps.
Speaker 1: Right, crazy, right, But the good news is they both
Speaker 1: can play.
Speaker 3: We like both of them, right, Yeah, that's good. And
Speaker 3: uh so Devin White makes the story just I mean,
Speaker 3: you can't you can't write this stuff. First drive, third down,
Speaker 3: he intercepts the pass right, uh and it was.
Speaker 1: A really nice play, which which just ignited the whole stadium.
Speaker 1: And when that happened, you kind of thought, okay, fine,
Speaker 1: And not only that, but they scored. So when you
Speaker 1: start scoring off of turnovers, that's everything.
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, And we scored on the first three.
Speaker 3: The last one we weren't really even trying that hard
Speaker 3: to score anymore.
Speaker 1: After the no, no, no, it looked like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: looked like the foot got off the gas pedal there
Speaker 1: in the second half.
Speaker 3: I thought that to me the moment that made me
Speaker 3: feel you know, there's sometimes these games are winning, even
Speaker 3: in this point double digit lead, you should be feeling good,
Speaker 3: but I tend to think I'm waiting for the shoot
Speaker 3: to drop. I shouldn't feel that way.
Speaker 1: I just remember, I just remember twenty eight to three.
Speaker 1: That's all I ever remember. You're never And I also
Speaker 1: remember some of our games were.
Speaker 3: Ahead well and like the Houston game, you thought you
Speaker 3: had that one. Well yeah, So the moment where I
Speaker 3: stopped feeling that way was so they get the ball
Speaker 3: to start the second half, right, they winning Jacksonville. They're winning.
Speaker 3: We're winning twenty to nothing. We're total control in the
Speaker 3: first half. Yep. But I'm thinking if they go to
Speaker 3: here and score on this one, it's going to be
Speaker 3: a game. And then if they could stop us and
Speaker 3: get another one, you know, then I'm going to start
Speaker 3: to worry a little bit. Because jackson was a good
Speaker 3: team and Lawrens is a good quarterback, so you don't
Speaker 3: expect them to continue to struggle on offense, although he
Speaker 3: did and then he got hurt and apparently he's not
Speaker 3: practicing tomorrow because of a shoulder spring. Right then, yah
Speaker 3: Yadi Yadi breaks through Saxon. This is on the first
Speaker 3: drive of the second Saxon forces a fumble, recovers a
Speaker 3: fumble and it's a short field and the Bucks score
Speaker 3: another touchdown. It's twenty seven to nothing. And at this
Speaker 3: point I'm like, okay, all right, this this is in
Speaker 3: the bag. Maybe you shouldn't think of that because you.
Speaker 1: Could blood it was Christmas Eve.
Speaker 3: The Buccaneers have never blown a twenty seven point lead
Speaker 3: to lose a game.
Speaker 1: No, so I think they blew a twenty six point lead.
Speaker 1: Well no, no, no, it was twenty six to three
Speaker 1: at the half back when the La Rams.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was a Sunday night game on Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but that was you're right, twenty six points.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was the game. That was the game where
Speaker 3: ty J Armstrong like an eighty one yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a that was a I don't even
Speaker 1: want to talk about that game.
Speaker 3: And so let's it wasn't It wasn't. It wasn't like
Speaker 3: the indie game. And oh too though, because the what
Speaker 3: year was that?
Speaker 1: What, twenty sixty three three? Yeah, something in that neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, but it wasn't. That wasn't like, oh,
Speaker 3: at ruin the season, you know it was a good season.
Speaker 1: And oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I know what you're.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, uh, actually, the biggest lead we've oh we
Speaker 3: have blown. Yeah no, no, we've blown the highest. The
Speaker 3: biggest lead we've ever blown was twenty five points in
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty seven to lose thirty one twenty eight to
Speaker 3: the Saint Louis Cardinals. Yeah. I was not in Saint
Speaker 3: Louis then, that was I was in my first year
Speaker 3: of college November eighth, nineteen eighty seven. No, no, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's right. Then the game you're talking about is tied
Speaker 3: for second because we blew a twenty four point lead
Speaker 3: against Washington. Remember that's the Kirk Cousins game like that,
Speaker 3: And then the one you're talking about was a twenty
Speaker 3: four point lead. So okay, I was right to feel
Speaker 3: confident at twenty seven. Yes, okay, yeah, so I lost
Speaker 3: everything there. Well I'm done, starts back up.
Speaker 1: What you're what you're talking about is when they finally
Speaker 1: when he had that last lead. Well, haven't you finally
Speaker 1: felt comfortable in the game. I never really feel comfortable.
Speaker 1: I begin too, but I always think, okay, don't don't
Speaker 1: get overly excited, just yet, just keep keep going, stay
Speaker 1: in the game, stay focused. What are we doing here?
Speaker 3: I wasn't too worried. No, after that, and then we
Speaker 3: got another field goal because Chase McLaughlin knocking wood never yesses. No,
Speaker 3: he's up to twenty six of twenty eighth this year,
Speaker 3: he made a fifty one yard He's six for seven
Speaker 3: and fifty plus yarders, and he's tied right now with
Speaker 3: Connor Barth, who had a twenty six or twenty eighth
Speaker 3: season UH for the best field goal percent Engine team history.
Speaker 3: Right in a season, the guy's made fifteen in a row.
Speaker 3: I'm knocking on with everyone. I'm knocking on what. I
Speaker 3: don't like to talk about it either. I don't want
Speaker 3: to feel like a jinx. But you can't not ever
Speaker 3: talk about how well your kicker's doing. Yes, get I mean,
Speaker 3: I waited until you hit fifteen in a row to
Speaker 3: mention that he hit fifteen round Now I say twelve
Speaker 3: in a row before they.
Speaker 1: Got Well, you know, you know people don't you know,
Speaker 1: we always say, don't say what's going to happen? Well,
Speaker 1: we were in somewhere deep into the third.
Speaker 3: Quarter or wherever we were.
Speaker 1: And I went, I wonder when the last time we
Speaker 1: had her shut out? And I pulled the book out,
Speaker 1: flipped it open. Where's my yellow marker? I found my
Speaker 1: yellow marker highlighted.
Speaker 3: Is it's been a while?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, no, it's only like twenty.
Speaker 3: I think it was we shut out in twenty I think.
Speaker 1: I'd have to remember off that. I don't remember who
Speaker 1: it was. I'll tell you, but it wasn't very It
Speaker 1: wasn't very long ago. I was kind of surprised by it.
Speaker 3: It was that soon.
Speaker 1: It was you're wrong, by the way, when oh, no, ten,
Speaker 1: it was twenty ten. I knew it had a twenty
Speaker 1: in it somewhere.
Speaker 3: Scott, well most of them do. Oh it was twenty
Speaker 3: one zero over San Francisco in on Halloween in twenty ten.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there you go. So it was a long time.
Speaker 1: It was thirteen years ago. But I highlighted it, and
Speaker 1: of course they scored, and I was like.
Speaker 3: But we did pitch a first half shutout. Yeah, for
Speaker 3: the first time since I don't remember you saw my note.
Speaker 3: It's been a while, twenty twenty one maybe, right, So
Speaker 3: that was fun. Baker Mayfield, can you say more than that? Dude,
Speaker 3: we need to say more than that this. The Bucks
Speaker 3: are streaking right now. The offense is scoring twenty or
Speaker 3: twenty nine points per game over the last four weeks,
Speaker 3: and the biggest reason is Baker Mayfield. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: all coming together. Like what you said about Dave Canals,
Speaker 3: it's true, but Baker's playing out of his mind.
Speaker 1: Right now, very much so.
Speaker 3: If you can't call this last one his best game
Speaker 3: since he had a perfect passer rating the week.
Speaker 1: Before in Bay but he was just yeah, what a
Speaker 1: bomer had a rough game last week?
Speaker 3: Jeez?
Speaker 1: What's he doing?
Speaker 3: Not turning the ball over? Yep and taking advantage opportunities.
Speaker 1: I just get so concerned, like when he fights, when
Speaker 1: he fights for the yardage, and I just like.
Speaker 3: Bake, come on, you're not going to take that out
Speaker 3: of him.
Speaker 1: No, you can't take it. You can't.
Speaker 3: Part of who he is. That's it, that's that's part
Speaker 3: of why the team loves him well well.
Speaker 1: As Tristan Worth said number six, he's a little guy,
Speaker 1: but he's fiery a little guy.
Speaker 3: Only NFL would Baker Mayfield be considered a little Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love I loved it, But when you stand next
Speaker 1: to Tristan Worfs, he could be not a little guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tristan Worfs is not a little guy, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Baker just is. Uh. I like what
Speaker 1: he said. He said he's having more fun now than
Speaker 1: he has in the last five years. So look at
Speaker 1: his five years. That includes being.
Speaker 3: A very good playoff season with Cleveland and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then also just being picked numbers all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's having more fun and I think that's why
Speaker 1: playing so well.
Speaker 3: They need to go back to making those uh. I
Speaker 3: don't remember what company was. It was commercials over where
Speaker 3: the stadium was his house. Progressive progressive. Yeah, that's not
Speaker 3: great when you remember the ad, but not who that's
Speaker 3: not great for the company there was they.
Speaker 1: Did well years ago. There was a there's an ad
Speaker 1: for Alka Seltzer and it was popizzzz it is. People
Speaker 1: could sing the song, but they couldn't remember really Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also there was there was also that commercial where
Speaker 1: he some guy eats a pizza I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's the same thing. It was really funny, but
Speaker 1: you couldn't remember the which was.
Speaker 3: The which was the UH which was the detergent brand
Speaker 3: for ancient Chinese secret. Huh No that one.
Speaker 1: No, I have no idea. Geez, what I don't know?
Speaker 3: Okay, So Baker Mayfield, what was he in this game?
Speaker 3: Let's see. I think it was like twenty.
Speaker 1: Six was down?
Speaker 3: He was down sixteen points. Going to disappointed.
Speaker 1: Geez, he's at a slug. It can't stay consistent.
Speaker 3: Over the last four weeks, his pass rating is just
Speaker 3: a little north of one ten, which is third in
Speaker 3: the NFL in that span. Actually, Derek Carr is fourth.
Speaker 3: By the way. He's playing better lately than people realize,
Speaker 3: but not as explosive. This time he didn't have quite
Speaker 3: the same like last week he had. He averages something
Speaker 3: like thirteen point two yards per ten, which is a
Speaker 3: huge number. This one wasn't quite as explosive. But he's
Speaker 3: getting the job done and moving the chains, moving the change.
Speaker 3: We were again last week, we were over fifty percent
Speaker 3: in third down R eight this week ten of nineteen, and
Speaker 3: that includes at the end when we're running the ball
Speaker 3: all the time, basically, although he did still complete some
Speaker 3: trishure and it's Chris Godwin. People a few weeks ago
Speaker 3: were concerned, but Chris Godwin's role in the offense, why
Speaker 3: he wasn't get the ball. Over the last two weeks
Speaker 3: or three weeks, you've seen why he has always been
Speaker 3: and remains extremely important in this offense. And you see
Speaker 3: it because Baker finds him on third down all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's Chris Godwin. He did it multiple times again in
Speaker 3: this game, did it multiple times in the Green Bay game.
Speaker 3: Godwin doesn't have a thousand yards, yet he might get there.
Speaker 3: He obviously doesn't have the touchdown totals that Mike Evans has,
Speaker 3: but if you look a little closer, he has been
Speaker 3: just as important to this offense as he's ever been.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have as many catches, but he has key catches. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got a lot.
Speaker 3: Though. He does lead the league in reception, I mean
Speaker 3: the team in receptions.
Speaker 1: By right, but a lot of them are that, oh boy,
Speaker 1: we really need this, and there's Chris making the scoop
Speaker 1: and so that is that. I think. I don't know
Speaker 1: it just the offense actually, just it just looks like
Speaker 1: it's working now I know it is. But you know
Speaker 1: how sometimes when you see a play and it's it
Speaker 1: just doesn't there's no flow to it. Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: in the last few weeks I'll say Green Bay and
Speaker 1: last week against Jacksonville. There it just seems so fluid.
Speaker 1: It just seems so here we go marching down. You
Speaker 1: felt good about it. It wasn't like, oh, you got
Speaker 1: to make some crazy play to get the first down.
Speaker 3: I'll say something about the offense over the last month
Speaker 3: that I think Dave Canalis would really like because it
Speaker 3: kind of echoes some of the things he's been talking about. Okay,
Speaker 3: it looks like in each of these last four games,
Speaker 3: the offense has answers for whatever they come up against,
Speaker 3: whatever situations. Third and eight, third and seven, third and three.
Speaker 3: We've been fantastic in third short, by the way, uh huh,
Speaker 3: And it has answers for whatever the opposing defense decides
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that because he's on the Todd
Speaker 1: Bowles Show that's going to go tonight and then you
Speaker 1: can catch it on bucket. He talked about how as
Speaker 1: time has gone on, he's learned how to make adjustments
Speaker 1: to what's being shown exactly, and that is exactly what
Speaker 1: you're saying.
Speaker 3: A couple of times in recent weeks he said he's
Speaker 3: gotten better at knowing when to pull certain things out
Speaker 3: of the bag. He's like, I went to something too early.
Speaker 3: We needed to get it set up more and it
Speaker 3: would have worked better at a different time in the game.
Speaker 1: He talked about that, don't get so anxious to make
Speaker 1: the big splash play it. Let it unfold.
Speaker 3: I'm sure if I was an offensive coordinator and I
Speaker 3: had my suite of plays ready to go for a game,
Speaker 3: I'd have three or four that I was really excited about, right,
Speaker 3: something that you.
Speaker 1: Just well, you have to be excited about it, but
Speaker 1: your quarterback has to be excited, right.
Speaker 3: And what I'm saying is it would be hard not
Speaker 3: to just dial that one up right away, right well,
Speaker 3: but sometimes they need to be set up. And that's
Speaker 3: one thing that this offense is doing a great job
Speaker 3: of the last month is designing and running plays that
Speaker 3: are set up by stuff we've done before.
Speaker 1: I think the running game really wasn't that it was,
Speaker 1: But I did not think the running game was not
Speaker 1: good during the game. Does that make any sense? Well,
Speaker 1: part of it was.
Speaker 3: I mean, we ended up with one point nine yards
Speaker 3: for cars, so that's obviously not good. But for the
Speaker 3: most of the second half, or at least a good
Speaker 3: portion of it, we were running the ball into the
Speaker 3: teeth of a defense that we.
Speaker 1: Were running, Yeah, because we were going to throw it
Speaker 1: at that point.
Speaker 3: We just wanted to burn the clock.
Speaker 1: But it didn't you know, kind of just like to me,
Speaker 1: it just didn't feel like, oh boy, we're in trouble.
Speaker 1: I guess maybe get you yeah, you know. And and
Speaker 1: but then after I looked at the the shoms, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was like, how did I miss that? But
Speaker 1: I guess we didn't need it.
Speaker 3: Well, you needed to still run the ball.
Speaker 1: Beginning, yeah, to kill the clock.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, and also just to have people to play
Speaker 3: action off.
Speaker 1: Of it and stuff like that, keep everybody honest. What
Speaker 1: was your favorite part about that?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's what that's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: My question, you can ask.
Speaker 3: Favorite part was probably, as I said before, the yah
Speaker 3: Yad Dyabi force fumble play, because that's just it's like
Speaker 3: in It was like in both Super Bowls when you
Speaker 3: got to that moment where you thought, Okay, that's it,
Speaker 3: We've got this. Now those are obviously much more important games,
Speaker 3: but I've had that feeling at that moment.
Speaker 1: My favorite was zero over zero zero tackling zero.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 1: And we noted that too, never been said, yeah, oh
Speaker 1: you looked it up. Well, how could zero and zero
Speaker 1: earlier this year? Okay, I'll make you feel better. Zero
Speaker 1: and zero has never been uttered by Gene Decker until Sunday.
Speaker 1: How is that thirty five years?
Speaker 3: In case anybody else there doesn't know what Jef is
Speaker 3: talking about, this is the first year that players have
Speaker 3: been allowed to use the jersey numbers zero. There's only
Speaker 3: a handful of moron the lee because not a lot
Speaker 3: of guys changed numbers, so they need to be guys
Speaker 3: new to teams. So yeah, yah, dyab Be a draft
Speaker 3: pick chose zero and for the Jaguars, Calvin Ridley, who
Speaker 3: they had acquired into trade the year before, but this
Speaker 3: was his first year playing for the team, chose zero
Speaker 3: for them, and on an attempted end of round in
Speaker 3: the first half. Yeah, yeah, I made an amazing play,
Speaker 3: figured out what was going on, and someone got there
Speaker 3: and tripped him up for a loss of twelve. Yep,
Speaker 3: so it was it was zero and zero. Violence. I
Speaker 3: like that, Jeff was a choice.
Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping that it was zero. It
Speaker 1: wasn't zero, Well, I guess it would be zero game,
Speaker 1: but it was negative twelve, So yeah, I like it
Speaker 1: just would have been zero zero zero. Yeah, just for statisticians,
Speaker 1: you would appreciate those numbers.
Speaker 3: For game purposes. I like the negative twelve very much.
Speaker 3: So it was zero hour.
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh, very good. I also liked between the third
Speaker 1: and fourth corner quarter quarter Santa Claus on the pirate
Speaker 1: ship playing the guitar.
Speaker 3: I did like that. That was pretty neat.
Speaker 1: It was very cool, very very cool. He was shredding, Hey,
Speaker 1: getting it done. It's Santa Man.
Speaker 3: Was the song sand You've got Santa Man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think the song Sandman.
Speaker 3: We've got so much left to cover here notes you got, well.
Speaker 1: It isn't an amazing when you win like that. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to talk about.
Speaker 3: Oh, there was a point. It's one of those games
Speaker 3: where there was a point where so much was happening
Speaker 3: that involved me having to look up and tweet out
Speaker 3: notes that it was like hectic. Yeah, it's because it
Speaker 3: kept this.
Speaker 1: We like when it's hectic for you because we use
Speaker 1: a lot of your stuff. When you're tweeting and you
Speaker 1: and I communicate during the game, I can tell it's
Speaker 1: very very and I'll say this, I can look stuff up. Also,
Speaker 1: the problem is if Scott does it, then I know
Speaker 1: it's absolutely correct and I don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1: I got actually, and this is kind of my broadcast crew.
Speaker 3: This is how they are.
Speaker 1: Right postgame show, I say today more during commercial break. Oh,
Speaker 1: just so you know, we only need one win. We'll
Speaker 1: win the division no matter what anybody else does. We
Speaker 1: just need one. Out of tude, he pauses, He looks
Speaker 1: at me and he goes, is that true?
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Is that true?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is that true? Really? If I say it, is it
Speaker 1: going to be right? And I said, yeah, I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: and then everybody's like looking at me, like I I
Speaker 1: have no idea Savannah passing this book, the book Tradition,
Speaker 1: which is a wind streak because she's been very consistent times. Yes,
Speaker 1: so uh yeah, that's why I like taking your stuff
Speaker 1: because I know it'll be factual unless you retweet and
Speaker 1: say oops my bad. Yeah, I was gonna say, then
Speaker 1: I can blame you, and I don't care.
Speaker 3: I did get one slightly wrong because when Levante David
Speaker 3: got a sack, it gave him thirty three point five
Speaker 3: in his career, and I said that he passed I
Speaker 3: looked at my chart and saw that put him past JPP,
Speaker 3: and I said, he passed JPP for ninth. And then
Speaker 3: after I tweeted, I realized, oh, Brad Culpeper and JPP
Speaker 3: were tied, so he passed both of them into eighth. Oh.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't just one.
Speaker 3: It wasn't so much that it was wrong. It just
Speaker 3: wasn't complete. H See, that's good. Or it was just
Speaker 3: a little bit is a teeny bit wrong, all right?
Speaker 3: But still so we were talking about the Bucks on
Speaker 3: third down. Now, the Bucks third done defense, which was
Speaker 3: such an enormous problem for the first half of the season,
Speaker 3: has been a lot better in the second half. Yeah,
Speaker 3: especially of late, held Jacksonville to three of nine. Now
Speaker 3: what's interesting about that is that Jacksonville had three third
Speaker 3: down conversions by the nine minute mark in the second quarter,
Speaker 3: which means they did not convert another third down for
Speaker 3: the rest of the game. That's crazy, that's I mean,
Speaker 3: there's at least once. Well they didn't get it on third,
Speaker 3: but then did get it on fourth.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and only thirty nine rushing yards allowed. Travis
Speaker 3: etn had a total from scrimmage of twenty nine plus
Speaker 3: so forty eight yards from scrimmage, he'd been averaging around
Speaker 3: one hundred, didn't score. His numbers were very much like
Speaker 3: Rashad White's coming in game, and we really held him.
Speaker 1: In check, which is what we're supposed to do.
Speaker 3: Evan Ingram didn't have catching ten passes but only average
Speaker 3: nine point five. Calvin really did catch two touchdowns, so
Speaker 3: that probably made some fantacy football say. My final difference is.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I was thinking about that
Speaker 1: that game, and you know, it was a four o'clock game,
Speaker 1: so it was kind of a long day to begin with.
Speaker 1: But I just think it was all around are really
Speaker 1: really good. Maybe Wait, what is I gonna say? How
Speaker 1: was our kicking? Our kicking? How how was our punning?
Speaker 3: Fifty average?
Speaker 1: Okay, he needs to work on them. How about in
Speaker 1: the San Francisco game the punter get getting a personal foul?
Speaker 3: Didny?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a guy going out of balance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was like, really, Baltimore the punter, the punter,
Speaker 1: Really Baltimore kicked the crap out of San Francisco. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: you know it's funny. I just this past weekend games,
Speaker 1: I don't know a lot of people didn't feel really
Speaker 1: good about this game. Jacksonville and the Buccaneers. Everyone was
Speaker 1: kind of thinking, well, Jacksonville, this is you know, had
Speaker 1: three game losing streak, so they really needed it's going
Speaker 1: to be it and they yeah, and they didn't get it.
Speaker 1: And it kind of set the tone is that you
Speaker 1: just don't know when you go ahead and look at
Speaker 1: Kansas City losing to the Raiders and we.
Speaker 3: Were talking about how you were talking about how the
Speaker 3: Bucks offense right now is really in a groove, and
Speaker 3: I was saying, they have answers for everything. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 3: and the Chiefs, they're not finding answers right now.
Speaker 1: Not at all.
Speaker 3: That game. Yeah, you kept waiting because at some point
Speaker 3: they're going to pull out of it, and they just
Speaker 3: never did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when it when it got to less than
Speaker 1: two scores in the fourth court. I always look at
Speaker 1: a game and say it with a team like Kansas City,
Speaker 1: if you go to the fourth quarter and you're down
Speaker 1: by two scores, you got a chance of winning that game.
Speaker 3: With the Chiefs, he's proven it time and time again,
Speaker 3: but not as much this season.
Speaker 1: No, No, a major struggle. And then the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: can't win on the road, which you know for US, yes,
Speaker 1: a few weeks, yep, they they're struggling. Buffalo didn't dominate,
Speaker 1: but they did win. That's all you need to do,
Speaker 1: and that's all you need to do. But I just
Speaker 1: I just think it's like every It's like everybody says,
Speaker 1: when a team gets hot in December, you're on a roll.
Speaker 1: So the question is we I think now have either
Speaker 1: we're tied for the second longest win streak, right, I
Speaker 1: think four because San Francisco is at six, but they lost.
Speaker 1: I don't know a win streaker.
Speaker 3: I think it's Baltimore in than US. Oh okay, and
Speaker 3: Baltimore looks fantastic, so yeah, they did.
Speaker 1: They look pretty good.
Speaker 3: So I think a companion note to what you're saying
Speaker 3: is that the NFC field playoff field seems to have
Speaker 3: contracted on itself for a little bit, and we've been
Speaker 3: focused on the Bucks winning a division title. But you know,
Speaker 3: just like nobody believed in the Bucks to start the season,
Speaker 3: you know that the probably majority of analysts out there think, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe they'll win the division, but then they won't do
Speaker 3: anything in the place. That's what everyone's been saying. And
Speaker 3: that's fair, I guess, because we were four and seven
Speaker 3: just four weeks ago.
Speaker 1: But it feels.
Speaker 3: A little different right now, right like I might have
Speaker 3: felt that way four weeks ago. Maybe we can win
Speaker 3: the division.
Speaker 1: But come on, yeah, people are finally people go, well,
Speaker 1: it's against Jacksonville, so you have a quality win, which
Speaker 1: bro what about the Green Bay one? Well, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But that's what I mean. Atta, I think
Speaker 1: any win you have is a quality win because Carolina
Speaker 1: beats the Texans and the Texans are in a wild
Speaker 1: card hunt right now. So I'll tell you the teams
Speaker 1: that are hot right now my opinion, Rams, the Rams,
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, and the Buccaneers. The Seahawks, well they just
Speaker 1: won t.
Speaker 3: They're right there, Baltimore. Oh, you're just talking.
Speaker 1: About NFC teams that teams that were falling off by
Speaker 1: the wayside.
Speaker 3: Now all of a sudden, surging, Detroit is right of
Speaker 3: the ship a little bit. Philly looks like they're in
Speaker 3: a little bit of trouble. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Detroit did beat us pretty handily, so we can't talk
Speaker 3: any crap.
Speaker 1: So Philly with Detroit, you're gonna find out what they're
Speaker 1: made of when they go and play Dallas right this week?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Dallas has been great at home. Correct, I
Speaker 3: don't know what we should root for there. We can't move.
Speaker 3: It probably doesn't matter a whole lot. We can't move
Speaker 3: higher than four now because we're now three games back
Speaker 3: of Philly, Detroit and.
Speaker 1: And there's only two games left. So I can do
Speaker 1: the math.
Speaker 3: That's out of the picture, right, So it really doesn't
Speaker 3: matter if Detroy wins more, it doesn't matter to us.
Speaker 1: No, But but the beauty is you win your division,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a a playoff game at home, which
Speaker 1: helps you out.
Speaker 3: And almost certainly the five seed at the top wild
Speaker 3: card is going to be whoever doesn't win.
Speaker 1: The East Dallas or I think it's gonna be Dallas.
Speaker 3: Y Phillies, Phillies. Last two games are Arizona and the Giants.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just now, the Giants did play pretty decently near
Speaker 1: the end last night. Well yeah, but still it's too
Speaker 1: much to overcome. Well that it's true, but you just
Speaker 1: don't anyway.
Speaker 3: The point being, the Bucks are locked into the floor,
Speaker 3: just like last year. If they clinched. The division is
Speaker 3: not done yet.
Speaker 1: No, nope, nope, nope.
Speaker 3: They'll be playing at home, probably maybe against the same
Speaker 3: team they did last year. But it doesn't feel like
Speaker 3: it's just ceremonial and they'll get in and then they're
Speaker 3: losing their out. The way we're playing now, the way
Speaker 3: Philly is kind of kind of looking non dominant. Their
Speaker 3: offense isn't really clicking right now. Their defense has had
Speaker 3: problems all year. Detroit looks good in a lot of ways,
Speaker 3: but their defense has some issues and they've been a
Speaker 3: little up and down. San fran I don't read too
Speaker 3: much into this loss to Baltimore because Baltimore has beaten
Speaker 3: the crap out of a lot of good things.
Speaker 1: Well, I think San Francisco struggled when they lost Williams
Speaker 1: Trent Williams, and they were moving people around. They lost
Speaker 1: a couple, they lost their center, so you start losing
Speaker 1: your own lines, and yeah, it's not gonna help, and
Speaker 1: you're playing from behind.
Speaker 3: So that's the other side. Well, the three game losing
Speaker 3: streak a while back, they were missing their guys. It
Speaker 3: was a debo one.
Speaker 1: Of the y and I think I think that's the
Speaker 1: other thing is you have to play good in December
Speaker 1: as obviously we are, but you also have to be healthy.
Speaker 1: You got to get a little you got to have
Speaker 1: a little luck on your health.
Speaker 3: And and it's just like we did in twenty twenty, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, and so's what's nice is for the Buccaneers they
Speaker 1: need to win one out of two, preferably they beat
Speaker 1: the Saints, because we just love beating the Saints, and
Speaker 1: you will lock it up and have it. Interesting question
Speaker 1: during the postgame show with Todd was are you going
Speaker 1: to rest your starters? Well two answers he gave that
Speaker 1: I really loved. The first one was because the question
Speaker 1: was are you going to rest your starters so you
Speaker 1: can give some playing time? And he responds was, we're
Speaker 1: playing rookies now, we're playing people trying to get them,
Speaker 1: so we really don't have that luxury of, you know,
Speaker 1: putting people down and waiting. So yeah, you could, Yeah
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 3: You could rest. You could play Kyle Trass, right.
Speaker 1: But then he said, I felt like last year when
Speaker 1: we played Atlanta, we sat people down and we lost
Speaker 1: our moje, which I thought was.
Speaker 3: Make believe that if we're in a similar situation, he's
Speaker 3: not going to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think I would treat it, you know,
Speaker 1: and people go, you know, you can't got a guy hurt,
Speaker 1: no kid, True, that's obvious. But I think if you
Speaker 1: treat it more or less like a I don't know,
Speaker 1: you play in the first half and if you get
Speaker 1: up twenty twenty five points, you pull them right, you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you get a nice lead,
Speaker 1: it's it's.
Speaker 3: A tough one though, like last to you.
Speaker 1: But but does it feel better to be ten and
Speaker 1: seven than nine and eight?
Speaker 3: Yeah? For sure, Okay, but I just want us to
Speaker 3: be over five hundred, so nobody so we don't have
Speaker 3: two consecutive right of course, if we're under five over them,
Speaker 3: we probably didn't win the division, correct, Yeah, ten and
Speaker 3: seven looks good.
Speaker 1: And that's and that's kind of the and that's that's like.
Speaker 3: Plus that would mean it was a six game winning streak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the other side. Well, and see that's
Speaker 1: the other We're gonna play fan here. So do you
Speaker 1: take a loss before you get to the playoffs so
Speaker 1: you can start a new win streak or is it
Speaker 1: better to just keep the win streak going? And you go, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe we got too many in a row.
Speaker 3: Just point to twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just I'm just going into you know, and
Speaker 1: you know how I hate power rankings. Yes, okay, but
Speaker 1: we're twel Where we went.
Speaker 3: Up to twelve, we were tenth on the NFL, like,
Speaker 3: oh were you?
Speaker 1: We got the twelve and I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 1: why we're only twelve because I looked at the other
Speaker 1: teams and I went, this is stupid. But I just
Speaker 1: but I just read that because I do the salty
Speaker 1: Dogs with you. That's the only reason why I read that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I'm not reading any mock drafts right now,
Speaker 1: just so you know. It's so don't ask.
Speaker 3: It's to your point. Uh, you know, the team that
Speaker 3: did peaks at the right time. You know, the Eagles
Speaker 3: looked at one point the season like they were the
Speaker 3: class of the NFC. Yeah. San Francisco looks like it
Speaker 3: right now. But and it's just one loss. But if
Speaker 3: they have any more stumbles, they won't really be peaking.
Speaker 3: Detroit Dallas definitely not peaking right now. You said Seattle's
Speaker 3: playing well, but I don't think they're the class of
Speaker 3: the conference. Bucks could be the team is peaking just
Speaker 3: like they were in twenty twenty. Yeah, but came out
Speaker 3: of the by at seven and five and nobody thought
Speaker 3: of them as prime Super Bowl contenders and then just
Speaker 3: ran the table the rest of the ways.
Speaker 1: As good as I feel right now, I am cautious, okay,
Speaker 1: because you don't want to get hurt, because in the
Speaker 1: beginning of the season we are three on one and
Speaker 1: now it's feeling really good, and then things kind of
Speaker 1: went south. However, I still am in the hunt for
Speaker 1: when I said I thought we were going to have
Speaker 1: ten wins this year, oh yeah, so I'm still in
Speaker 1: the hunt.
Speaker 3: We're going to be We are favored, not by much
Speaker 3: this week, and I'm sure we'll be favored in Carolina.
Speaker 3: So well.
Speaker 1: Caroline is dangerous because.
Speaker 3: That looking decent. I don't like that.
Speaker 1: They've always had a pretty decent defense. The problem is
Speaker 1: they're floating every other place. But you got guys playing
Speaker 1: on tape. And that's the other thing is when a
Speaker 1: new head coach comes in, probably there's going to be
Speaker 1: one since they fired their head coach, he's gonna look
Speaker 1: at the tape and say who was playing when it
Speaker 1: didn't matter Who's who? You know, So if you're a
Speaker 1: professional you're all in so, I mean, and a lot
Speaker 1: of guys don't want to get hurt or whatnot. But
Speaker 1: end of the day, your tape don't lie.
Speaker 3: Did you see the coin flip thing in Green Bay?
Speaker 1: I thought that was very generous of the official.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, didn't have to do that. I used to
Speaker 3: try to get people on that technicality when we were
Speaker 3: doing the coin flip in the flag football games.
Speaker 1: Because you have to say deferred.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they I think, and none of the rest would
Speaker 3: ever let me do it. They like, no, that's what
Speaker 3: they meant. Yeah, but in the NFL could have What
Speaker 3: we're talking about here is that for some reason, Jay
Speaker 3: R Alexander, who just returned to play after being out
Speaker 3: for a while, wasn't one of the team captains, wasn't
Speaker 3: even supposed to be out there.
Speaker 1: Well, he went out there because it was his home down.
Speaker 3: I know, but I think that was unbeknownst to everybody
Speaker 3: else that he was going to do that. And then
Speaker 3: he's the one who after they win the toss he
Speaker 3: says something like we'll be on defense, which is not
Speaker 3: the same thing as saying we'll defer. Right, So if
Speaker 3: they'd have been strict on that, then they would have
Speaker 3: turned to the other team Panthers, right, and said, okay,
Speaker 3: do you want the ball?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the then the Panthers would have had the choice
Speaker 3: in the second half and they would have chosen the ball,
Speaker 3: So they would have had the ball to start bull halves.
Speaker 3: You have to say, we defer our choice, and then
Speaker 3: the other team chooses the ball for the first half. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then in the second half you choose the ball,
Speaker 3: which is what almost every team does now. But you
Speaker 3: have to say the words defer, and he didn't, So
Speaker 3: you're right that that ref was generous. He said something like,
Speaker 3: did you mean defer?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I And.
Speaker 3: Then he said afterwards he didn't know he had to
Speaker 3: say that.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny how how things happen on the
Speaker 1: field that someone has changed how I do our broadcast.
Speaker 1: And I'll give you an example in ninety nine with
Speaker 1: the bird of Manual rule. We didn't have a sideline
Speaker 1: reporter then and we couldn't get information of what was
Speaker 1: going on real and I may I went, okay from
Speaker 1: here on out sideline reporter, and we had one. So
Speaker 1: the other thing, I did you remember when they got
Speaker 1: when the official got the coin toss wrong?
Speaker 3: Yes, all right.
Speaker 1: So from that point on we carry the coin toss
Speaker 1: live because I want to know exactly what's going on
Speaker 1: and if something crazy happens, you got it covered, right.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's funny that the most basic things like
Speaker 1: a coin toss is becoming very very difficult. I mean,
Speaker 1: either say heads or jails, defer or what do you
Speaker 1: say if you don't not defer?
Speaker 3: If you're say I take the ball?
Speaker 1: Okay, so the words are take ball deferred.
Speaker 3: Those are the two choices you should not be saying
Speaker 3: anything else.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Famously, the Bucks in a I can't remember who the
Speaker 3: coach was, but in a overtime game in New England
Speaker 3: on an incredibly bad weather day, won the coin toss
Speaker 3: to start overtime, but chose direction rather than taking the
Speaker 3: ball because the weather was so bad and they felt
Speaker 3: like that was an advantage. But the Patriots down for
Speaker 3: the game winning field goal or touchdown. You don't want
Speaker 3: to do that. I think it might have been Ray Perkins.
Speaker 1: Oh it was before my time.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was before both of them.
Speaker 1: That's good, because I was going to go.
Speaker 3: You would have expected to remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. That's pretty crazy, but that's out.
Speaker 1: That's putting analytics to a whole new level, which is
Speaker 1: the numbers don't lie, but they can't get you in trouble. Perkins,
Speaker 1: all right, so I wasn't responsible.
Speaker 3: Then, okay, next thing on my notes here Zion McCollum.
Speaker 3: So after the Green Bay game, when we figured that
Speaker 3: Carlton Davis was coming back, so you'd have Davis and
Speaker 3: Dean healthy, Coach Bowles was asked, since Zion's played so well,
Speaker 3: is there any chance you might rotate corners to keep
Speaker 3: him involved? And coach said, well, we don't really rotate corners.
Speaker 3: That's not a position we rotate that, but we do
Speaker 3: want to get keep putting Zion on the field, so
Speaker 3: we're going to come up with ways to do so.
Speaker 3: And then near the beginning of the game we see, oh,
Speaker 3: Zion McClellan is playing safety. Yeah, that was interesting. That
Speaker 3: second safety spot next to Winfield, who we're going to
Speaker 3: have to talk about at great length soon. Has really
Speaker 3: been a revolving door, and right now it seems to
Speaker 3: be a mix and match solution. So Zion got some action,
Speaker 3: Ryan Neil got some action. D Delaney got a lot
Speaker 3: of Actually, Kevin Merriweather got some two, but I think
Speaker 3: that was because Antoine went out for a while.
Speaker 1: Coach calls d Delaney the army Swiss Swiss knife, Swiss
Speaker 1: army knife, Swiss army knife.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like we have different ways of
Speaker 3: filling that spy and it's not just one star at
Speaker 3: this point. But it was interesting to see Zion McCollum
Speaker 3: in the mix. And I was talking to Casey Phillips
Speaker 3: after the game, texting with her and and she had
Speaker 3: interviewed Zion before the game.
Speaker 1: He did well. He did Bucks Total Access last week,
Speaker 1: which you can get on Bucks.
Speaker 3: By the way, she loved him.
Speaker 1: Oh, he was really really good, very enlightening.
Speaker 3: I didn't hear it. It's really very good.
Speaker 1: However, he is hitting himself a little bit going old
Speaker 1: because he could have had an interception.
Speaker 3: Well that's been happening a lot time, I know. So
Speaker 3: then he didn't end up playing a lot of safety
Speaker 3: because Carlton Davis suffered a concussion and then he moved down.
Speaker 3: Now he's been so helpful. But anyways, the Casey Phillips
Speaker 3: story that she told me that he said on the broadcast,
Speaker 3: and maybe you heard it that you know he has
Speaker 3: a twin brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know the story about how he became he
Speaker 1: in the position.
Speaker 3: The coach they were twins and they were on the
Speaker 3: same team, and the coach wanted Zion to play safety
Speaker 3: and his brother to play corner, right, but he got.
Speaker 1: Them confused because they're twins.
Speaker 3: He got them confused and put them at the wrong spots,
Speaker 3: and the time just stayed there.
Speaker 1: And the kids were taught not to question authority, so
Speaker 1: they just basically went along with it and said, Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: you know if you say so.
Speaker 3: Because question I'm actually Zion.
Speaker 1: But what happened is you had to. You had to,
Speaker 1: you had to try out for the position. And that's
Speaker 1: what was so funny about it. So yeah, but.
Speaker 3: Now are they wearing the same jersey number?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but now he said it kind of
Speaker 1: worked out for it, said a little bit. He made
Speaker 1: the NFL and his brother did too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Is he currently on the team.
Speaker 1: He is with the Philadelphia.
Speaker 3: Well he was. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: So he's not with the on their practice squad anymore.
Speaker 3: I'll check. But I thought at a moment, I thought
Speaker 3: there was a point where he was let go. What's
Speaker 3: the first of all, which is pretty exciting. What's his
Speaker 3: name for him? Tristan Tristan, Okay, I'll look it up anyway.
Speaker 3: That was a cool story, yeah.
Speaker 1: Which which you know, it's it's funny, how just if
Speaker 1: this didn't happen, that wouldn't happen, you know, all that
Speaker 1: type of.
Speaker 3: So no, yeah, he's still on there. In fact, is
Speaker 3: that not only is he still on there, but he's
Speaker 3: been activated for a couple of games.
Speaker 1: And that's what the Eagles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I thought, I thought, yeah, of course obviously. Wow,
Speaker 3: they both have the go team. Huh.
Speaker 1: When they wear the same clothes and cut the hair
Speaker 1: the same way, it is kind of confusing, but yeah,
Speaker 1: they He also said that they would switch classes and so.
Speaker 3: I would totally do that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He had a lot, a lot of good twin stories.
Speaker 3: So that's good. All right, we might as well talk
Speaker 3: about number thirty one. Number thirty one.
Speaker 1: Wow, I don't know what can you say?
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know what more we can say since
Speaker 3: we talk about him at length every week because it
Speaker 3: gives us reason to do.
Speaker 1: So, you can't have a show. It's like, here's two things.
Speaker 1: You can't have a show without talking about thirty one
Speaker 1: and fifty four. You just can't have a shirteen and thirteen.
Speaker 1: We haven't talked about it yet, No, not at all.
Speaker 3: So Antonine Winfield Junior, I mean he's rapidly It's hard
Speaker 3: to say this on a team that has Levante Kevins,
Speaker 3: but he's really coming close to being my favorite player.
Speaker 3: And this defense when needs a big splay, who's gonna
Speaker 3: make it? He does more often than not.
Speaker 1: It's Antoine, where a little guy, he makes it happen.
Speaker 3: Oh man. I mean, he just makes it all over
Speaker 3: a field. I mean he had a sack and an
Speaker 3: interception and a fumble recovery, amongst other things.
Speaker 1: And he was just warming up.
Speaker 3: It's the second time this year that he's had a
Speaker 3: sack and a pick in the same game, and only
Speaker 3: him and Alex Heighsmith of the Steelers have done that
Speaker 3: twice this year. And this is the way I put
Speaker 3: it in a story I was writing earlier. I called
Speaker 3: him a chameleon on the defense because okay, let's say
Speaker 3: I gave you this player's stat line and it included
Speaker 3: one and ten tackles, uh, five sacks, three interceptions, five
Speaker 3: force fumbles, four fumble recoveries and twelve passes. Defense and said,
Speaker 3: what position does this player play? What would be your guess?
Speaker 3: I mean, you probably wouldn't cass defensive tackles because they're
Speaker 3: not gonna.
Speaker 1: Get three packs. They're not getting bid.
Speaker 3: But you're probably not gussing corner because they don't have
Speaker 3: five they don't have five sacks or four fumble recovers.
Speaker 1: Linebacker, you might guess linebacker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if because because of all the tackles, because your
Speaker 3: outside linebackers probably aren't getting a hundred ten tackles. I
Speaker 3: don't know if we need to put a position moniker
Speaker 3: on this guy. He just plays all over the place,
Speaker 3: that makes plays at every level.
Speaker 1: Just does nobody.
Speaker 3: Okay, this only goes back to ninety nine because that's
Speaker 3: when they started regularly tracking fumble data. But okay, he's
Speaker 3: got five sacks, five force fumbles, four fumble recoveries, and
Speaker 3: three interceptions. He's the first guy to ever do that
Speaker 3: in a season since ninety nine, the first one, the
Speaker 3: older guy, the only guy, which is why again I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say again, I'm going to lose my freaking mind
Speaker 3: if he is not a first team All Pro safety,
Speaker 3: right and I'm worried about Jesse Bates, and I'm worried
Speaker 3: about Kyle Hamilton. Kyle Hamilton, they were singing his praises
Speaker 3: up and down on primetime. Yeah, nationwide broadcast. But I'm
Speaker 3: worried that Winfield's exposure in primetime games hasn't been enough.
Speaker 1: No, but I think because the Bucks are on a
Speaker 1: surge right now, he is going to get noticed, I think.
Speaker 1: And that's what happens when you start winning. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can play great and not be on a winning
Speaker 1: team and it kind of gets thrown by the wayside.
Speaker 1: But because the team is winning now and they have
Speaker 1: a shot, they're getting the Buccaneers are getting more love
Speaker 1: on national TV than they have probably since the beginning
Speaker 1: of this.
Speaker 3: But they didn't play a game on national.
Speaker 1: TV the last now they have not, like right.
Speaker 3: Kyle Hamilton did. Yeah, I will say I'm glad the
Speaker 3: Pro the All Pro voting is done by media members,
Speaker 3: not fans. Not that fans are any less smart than
Speaker 3: media members, just that they are less likely to know
Speaker 3: all the players in.
Speaker 1: The correct They're going to know their guys, They're going
Speaker 1: to their guys.
Speaker 3: So we're not getting votes. You saw I didn't get
Speaker 3: a lot of good. He didn't really get great votes
Speaker 3: in the Pro Bowl voting, which may not matter because
Speaker 3: players and coaches also vote.
Speaker 1: That whole thing don't get But you.
Speaker 3: Know, does an Indianapolis Colts fan know how.
Speaker 1: Well? Maybe did he? How do you do against them?
Speaker 1: That would be the only way to look, That would
Speaker 1: be the only way that they would know. But the
Speaker 1: guy that's not saying the Indianapolis Colts fans not knowledgeable,
Speaker 1: it's just just randomly Yeah, I'm just saying it's just
Speaker 1: not it's not in their wheelhouse.
Speaker 3: So Antoine, he's going to be another guy that the
Speaker 3: Bucks have to do something about.
Speaker 1: Contract will Yeah, I mean, as much fun as this
Speaker 1: end of the season is, well, at the beginning of
Speaker 1: next season is you're gonna be tough.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's let's break it down real quick, really quick.
Speaker 3: You want here's the guys that you're worried about. Losing
Speaker 3: my mind. One, yeah, Mike.
Speaker 1: Evans not necessarily in these orders, yes, not.
Speaker 3: In any order. Baker Mayfield and uh and then also
Speaker 3: this is around the time that when you have a
Speaker 3: very good first rund pick going into fifth year, like
Speaker 3: we did with the Devea. So Tristan Wurf's may be
Speaker 3: in line for a new deal.
Speaker 1: So that's five guys that you have to think about,
Speaker 1: and and you got one more you got to think about,
Speaker 1: which who's that's forty five Devin White. You have to
Speaker 1: think about him because his contract is up.
Speaker 3: It would be painful to lose any of those guys,
Speaker 3: but you have to face the reality that you can't
Speaker 3: keep Usually, other than after the Super Bowl year, you
Speaker 3: usually can't keep them all. So that's a thing to
Speaker 3: worry about.
Speaker 1: And you got to look at your guys that have
Speaker 1: got big contracts. What are you gonna do with them?
Speaker 1: What kind of year did they have?
Speaker 3: Do you think Mike Evans is back? You better me
Speaker 3: if I had to put money on it, which I
Speaker 3: can't because I can't beat on the NFL.
Speaker 1: I don't say yes, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: Don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have a reason not to. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean emotionally, there's no reason to Financially. You got
Speaker 1: to make that call because it's going to be twenty
Speaker 1: plus a year and.
Speaker 3: He's coming off a fantastic season, no question where he
Speaker 3: looked like he was twenty five and not whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But I kind of treat him. You know, he's in
Speaker 1: that same Mike calls dot Ron de Barber thing where
Speaker 1: you kind of want him to finish his career Brooks
Speaker 1: Derek Brooks, Yeah, to finish here. And it's been true
Speaker 1: for John Lynch, right, John Lynch, Warren Sapp went other places.
Speaker 3: So I'm just saying, so, Antwine, you also have and
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not saying this would happen to any
Speaker 3: of these specific players, but you also have a franchise
Speaker 3: tag at your disposal right if you are having trouble
Speaker 3: getting all of them signed, I'm just wondering what we're
Speaker 3: gonna do. I don't If I knew, I wouldn't say
Speaker 3: it on this broadcast because then I would be in
Speaker 3: trouble with Jason Light and Company. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody knows yet because you have to
Speaker 1: wait until everything settles down and see where you are.
Speaker 3: But I feel like Michael be Back and I don't.
Speaker 1: Know this, No, it's just your gut feel.
Speaker 3: I feel like Antoine, how do you let a player
Speaker 3: that good out of the building? You try not to,
Speaker 3: And I feel like Levante plays anywhere, it'll be here.
Speaker 1: But you're in a situation where you're going to have
Speaker 1: to let a good player out of the building.
Speaker 3: And Baker.
Speaker 1: Is Baker your guy, He's one of the guys and
Speaker 1: for future.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want Tom at least one more higher, all right,
Speaker 3: but it's gonna cost a heck a lot more than
Speaker 3: the four.
Speaker 1: Million you you just franchise him, that's what thirty two million.
Speaker 3: I think you can probably get a lower cap hit, yeah,
Speaker 3: with a contract, okay, rather than I don't you know.
Speaker 3: Gino Smith got three years and twenty five million even
Speaker 3: per year, which is a somewhat analogous situation. He also
Speaker 3: has incentives in his contract, and I don't know if
Speaker 3: he's hitting him or not, that could take it as
Speaker 3: high as one hundred and five million over three years
Speaker 3: or like thirty five. So that's it's hard to imagine
Speaker 3: that you're not starting around that point with Baker because
Speaker 3: it's the same thing. It's a very analogous situation. So
Speaker 3: we'll see. I don't want to talk about contracts anymore.
Speaker 1: No, I want to enjoy the run.
Speaker 3: Another guy, Yeah, yeah, we talked about him a little bit.
Speaker 1: How many sacks is yeah? Yeah? Have did he ideo
Speaker 1: get one and a half?
Speaker 3: Or was he He had one and a half of
Speaker 3: that game. He has six point five on the season,
Speaker 3: which now has him tied for first.
Speaker 1: With Gaines Adams.
Speaker 3: No no rookie, no no, he's third in team history
Speaker 3: if among rookies Santana Dots in ten and ninety two
Speaker 3: and Adrian Clayborne okay seven point five in twenty eleven.
Speaker 1: And Gaines Adams was six six, So he passed him.
Speaker 3: He passed him. But what I was going to say,
Speaker 3: he's tied among NFL rookies for the lead. He's tied
Speaker 3: for the lead in sacks among rookies with a.
Speaker 1: Guy in and he had been playing all the time
Speaker 1: with a guy.
Speaker 3: In the rams. It's either Byron Young or the other one.
Speaker 3: They got two guys near the top. And also Klijah
Speaker 3: Cansy leads all rookies with ten tackles for loss and
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, is second with nine. Yeah yeah, with the
Speaker 3: better sack total. Is the guy that might start to
Speaker 3: get a little bit of uh talk discussion about if
Speaker 3: it's a Rookie of the Year. I wouldn't have thought
Speaker 3: so a couple of weeks ago, but sacks are a
Speaker 3: big deal for awards voters and he's tied for league
Speaker 3: lead among rookies that initially has to finish strong, Yeah,
Speaker 3: to have a shot, but it's pretty amazing if if
Speaker 3: he were to win that, to win it as a
Speaker 3: third round draft pick.
Speaker 1: Now, does he have to finish strong the rest of
Speaker 1: the season or if they get to the playoffs and
Speaker 1: you're finishing you do.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure all those awards are voted for before
Speaker 3: the four the season ends, they vote, They might not
Speaker 3: be announced to later, but then what have the playoffs
Speaker 3: doesn't factor into the Okay, okay, if he were to
Speaker 3: win that, Michael Panick and I from the Communication department
Speaker 3: at lunch today. He was the one doing it looking
Speaker 3: through the list of previous defensive Rookie of the Year winners,
Speaker 3: and we had to go back thirty five years to
Speaker 3: find one that was not either a first or second
Speaker 3: round pick. Really, and all of them, and the vast
Speaker 3: majority of the vast majority of them were first round picks.
Speaker 3: You got the occasional exception of like Shaq Leonard, who
Speaker 3: was a high second round pick, but almost all of
Speaker 3: them were first round picks, you know, like last year
Speaker 3: was Sauce Gardner as an example. Sure, so it would
Speaker 3: be quite a feather in the cap of our player
Speaker 3: personnel department if and he didn't for a third round pick.
Speaker 1: And he didn't play the first few games. He played
Speaker 1: the first game for eleven snaps and then he was out.
Speaker 3: What no, you're talking about kaleigah Canty. Yeah no, I'm
Speaker 3: talking about yah yah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Well he didn't play that.
Speaker 3: He did. He's played in every game. I mean, his
Speaker 3: playing time is going up because the season is going on. Uh,
Speaker 3: let me see if I can find I think it
Speaker 3: was nineteen eighty eight. Eric McMillan is safety for the Jets.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it was the last one.
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, yeah, playing time has increased in
Speaker 1: the last month.
Speaker 3: It has definitely. Well, he became a starter about mid season,
Speaker 3: so it obviously increased at that point. Okay, I mean,
Speaker 3: but look like saucecar in our first run pick. Most
Speaker 3: of these are very high first round picks too, right,
Speaker 3: Micah Parsons, Chase Young, Nick Bosa, Shaq Lnard's the exception,
Speaker 3: Marshall Lanimore, Joey Bosa, Marcus Peters, Aaron Donald, Sheldon Richardson,
Speaker 3: Luke Keigley, Von Miller, and Domik and Sue, Brian Cushing,
Speaker 3: Jared Mayo, Patrick I don't know about Patrick Willis, but
Speaker 3: on and on almost all first round picks right and
Speaker 3: then not a not a third or later pick for
Speaker 3: thirty five years. Wow. By the way, I see on
Speaker 3: my board here I just said, I just said in
Speaker 3: Dominic and Sue and I wrote that up there, so
Speaker 3: we remember, didn't you say on the podcast last week?
Speaker 1: I think I said it in the office afterwards when
Speaker 1: we were talking about because Jay, because when we got done,
Speaker 1: JPP was let go of the Dolphins and I said, well,
Speaker 1: maybe they'll get in Dominican and then I said, oh what,
Speaker 1: they already had him, but he went down there.
Speaker 3: I don't think they didn't signs. It's possibility for sure.
Speaker 1: And they're you know, they're they're on a roll right now,
Speaker 1: so they may need them down the stretch. That's that's
Speaker 1: the crazy part. Guys are out there, veteran guys are
Speaker 1: out there, staying in shape, hoping to get picked up
Speaker 1: with a you know, a playoff run.
Speaker 3: Lenny Fournette got to play a little bit.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, he uh did he do anything? I think
Speaker 1: he was returning kicks, turning kicks. Yeah, for Buffalo. I
Speaker 1: think so. I think that's I think that's how he
Speaker 1: got in, was returning kicks. You look it up, because
Speaker 1: again you're you're wondering how I know that.
Speaker 3: Numbers wearing for them.
Speaker 1: I have no number five. Okay.
Speaker 3: Uh. He ran five times for twenty yards. It's not terrible. No,
Speaker 3: And he did return a kickoff for seventeen yards. There
Speaker 3: you go. I didn't know that was part of.
Speaker 1: His I didn't think it was either, but I think
Speaker 1: they needed it.
Speaker 3: So Peter Schrager of the NFL network mm hmm, throughout
Speaker 3: Yaya's name as defensive the Year today.
Speaker 1: Well he I think he went a yeah yah Jersey.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know.
Speaker 3: But I mean that's a couple of weeks ago. I
Speaker 3: didn't think I wrote it. I wrote to answer the
Speaker 3: question of my mail bag about bucks like a win
Speaker 3: Major Awards.
Speaker 1: That's a major award. I did not Christmas story major award.
Speaker 3: You talked about that movie last week, and I told
Speaker 3: you I don't like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we all disagree, just so.
Speaker 3: We all everybody listening. Yeah, how do you know you'll
Speaker 3: see us in yep, if you want to.
Speaker 1: Watched it. Watched it again yesterday. I don't know why
Speaker 1: that because it's so good. It's so good.
Speaker 3: I gave up after like fifteen minutes because it was
Speaker 3: one of the worst movies I've ever seen. If you
Speaker 3: have an opinion on Christmas story, Christmas a Christmas Story,
Speaker 3: just it's the one where the dude licks the lamp
Speaker 3: post right, yeah, okay, no, yes, and there's a is
Speaker 3: there like a BB gun or something? Yes? Writer. Uh,
Speaker 3: it's a terrible, terrible movie. But if you have an
Speaker 3: opinion on it, email us.
Speaker 1: It's awesome. If you care, Salty Dogs, you care about Christmas,
Speaker 1: it's an awesome movie. It'll it'll it'll just watch.
Speaker 3: It's a wonderful life. It's way better.
Speaker 1: It'll warm your heart and it'll make you laugh. No,
Speaker 1: it'll bring back times when you were a child.
Speaker 3: I didn't never ask for a bb gun.
Speaker 1: Well see, uh, you.
Speaker 3: Can email us with that or anything else. Can Please
Speaker 3: tell them the email address you keep it up.
Speaker 1: But I want to I want to say something. I
Speaker 1: want to say something.
Speaker 3: You can email us at Salty Dogs at Buccaneers dot
Speaker 3: NFL dot com.
Speaker 1: I want to say it was a time when little
Speaker 1: boys wanted to be cowboys and Indians neat yeah, cool,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 3: I don't particularly like old movies.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to help you.
Speaker 3: They're making so much new entertainment these days, you don't
Speaker 3: need to go back and watch all movies.
Speaker 1: No, they're taking old movies and remaking them. That's all
Speaker 1: they're doing. Sods worse, I know.
Speaker 3: Uh did you see the Speaking of the Eagles a
Speaker 3: little while ago? Did you see the Boston Scott a
Speaker 3: lot this Zakias play No Boss. This guy was fielding
Speaker 3: a punt I think, or kickoff, but probably a punt,
Speaker 3: and his teammates as.
Speaker 1: He blew him up.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, game, Yes, it's just so funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah he he and not only does he hit him,
Speaker 1: he just blows well.
Speaker 3: As they show in the replay, he got shoved into
Speaker 3: him by a defender. Still, he got shoved and turned around,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden he realized he was running
Speaker 3: right at his teammate. That's crazy. I can't I can't
Speaker 3: imagine they were happy teammates on the sideline after that one.
Speaker 1: No, I think he really you know, dazed him there
Speaker 1: for a second. Uh So, I didn't know the names
Speaker 1: of those people, but I did see it was the Giants.
Speaker 3: Well, one of them is hard to say, a lot
Speaker 3: of and eagles when we talk about this playoff, this
Speaker 3: division title race, which is down to the Bucks at
Speaker 3: eight and seven, uh, this Falcon, the Saints at seven eight,
Speaker 3: and the Falcons at seven and eight in that order
Speaker 3: based on time breakers. The funny thing to note about,
Speaker 3: so those are almost the same record, right, the Bucks
Speaker 3: have been a little bit better. Yep. You got to
Speaker 3: go back and look at the effect. The Bucks were
Speaker 3: eight to nine last year. Yeah, but they won the division.
Speaker 3: They did because everybody else was seven to ten. That
Speaker 3: made such a huge difference on the schedules that these
Speaker 3: teams had to play. Oh yeah, the Buccaneers have a
Speaker 3: first place schedule. Yeah, they had the first place schedule,
Speaker 3: and thus the three games, fourteen of the seventeen opponents
Speaker 3: for each of these three teams were the same, but
Speaker 3: there were three you get matched up with every season.
Speaker 3: The scheduling format matches one NFC division with another, So
Speaker 3: like this year, we played the all the teams in
Speaker 3: the NFC North, and everybody else in our division played
Speaker 3: all the teams in the NFC North, But the first
Speaker 3: place team in our division would play the first place
Speaker 3: teams in the two other NFC divisions, and that was
Speaker 3: the East and the West. And then also since the
Speaker 3: seventeenth game has been added, that one is based on
Speaker 3: record as well, So we played the first place team
Speaker 3: in the AFC East. So for us those three games
Speaker 3: were Philadelphia, Buffalo, and San fran correct. So that's currently
Speaker 3: the top two seeds in the NFC.
Speaker 1: And a top one in the AFC.
Speaker 3: Well, they're not total total, but they're they're they're they're
Speaker 3: they're they're on the roll to they look like maybe
Speaker 3: the second best AFC team after Baltimore. Meanwhile, the Saints
Speaker 3: get to play the Giants, the Patriots, and the Rams who.
Speaker 1: Have been good yep, but still Giants.
Speaker 3: And the Patriots have been terrible for most of the year.
Speaker 1: But in fairness, you don't know who's going to be
Speaker 1: good and who's going to be usually.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think if you looked at this list
Speaker 3: you would have before the season you would have said,
Speaker 3: the Bucks have it a lot harder, yeah, because all
Speaker 3: those teams remained good. The Giants got a lot.
Speaker 1: Of them were on the road and one was at homes.
Speaker 3: And the Giants got a lot worse for against the Saints,
Speaker 3: the Patriots got a lot worse, Rams got better Falcons.
Speaker 3: Three games were Washington who've basically collapsed, although they did fight, sure,
Speaker 3: the Jets okay, who've been pretty bad because of their
Speaker 3: quarterback situation, and Arizona, which is just bad. Right, And
Speaker 3: yet the Buccaneers have the best record of those three teams. Yes,
Speaker 3: so we've got a better record against the harder schedule. Well, no,
Speaker 3: we didn't win any of those games. No.
Speaker 1: The other thing that irritates me is everybody's been talking
Speaker 1: about how bad the NFC South is blah blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. But you start looking at divisions. Now there's
Speaker 1: only one team or two teams that are really really
Speaker 1: good in all the other divisions. Everybody else is, you know,
Speaker 1: hovering around the seven to seven eight seven. You know,
Speaker 1: there's not there's no, there's none of those big you know,
Speaker 1: other than if you take the East with Eagles and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, they're the double digit winners. Other than that, there's.
Speaker 3: Seven teams in the NFC. They're either eight and seven
Speaker 3: or seven and eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But everybody always dogs. Well,
Speaker 1: the Bucks are in first place in the NFC South.
Speaker 3: Which is a very poor division.
Speaker 1: Well look at all of them, and then decide, look
Speaker 1: at the NFC West, for crying out.
Speaker 3: Loud, NFC West, that's a weird choice. Just look at it.
Speaker 3: You got the San francisc goes to what maybe the
Speaker 3: best team in the conference. The Rams are good, and
Speaker 3: you just said Seattle's hot.
Speaker 1: What's the Rams in Seattle?
Speaker 3: Well, they're eating seven.
Speaker 1: There you go, that's what I'm okay.
Speaker 3: But the Rams are playing great, and you said this,
Speaker 3: the seas are playing.
Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks are gonna surprise everybody.
Speaker 3: Well, the the NFC North Detroit is the only team
Speaker 3: over five hundred. That would have been a much better
Speaker 3: example on your part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, the Chicago's playing pretty well all of
Speaker 1: a sudden.
Speaker 3: Yeah, comparatively to where they were.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they close out pretty strong though, they can
Speaker 1: they can.
Speaker 3: Wow. I think your point here is, yeah, other than
Speaker 3: the East, there's no every other division only one, well
Speaker 3: two other divisions, only one winning team. Right, and then
Speaker 3: the West has two eight and seven teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at that AFC T and that Jacksonville's in
Speaker 1: the AFC South. They're just killing it, right.
Speaker 3: Three eight and seven teams. There you go.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So parody is alive and well
Speaker 1: in the NFL, so it keeps everybody exciting.
Speaker 3: All right, we got questions, we did fans, So I
Speaker 3: got one more thing to throw it. I throw it
Speaker 3: at totally random. It was down there on the practice
Speaker 3: field earlier today shooting our video with Ronnie Barber that
Speaker 3: they played free game yep, and they were painting lines
Speaker 3: on the field. Yeah. Rob Julian and his crew. That's
Speaker 3: our head groundskeepers who has been with us for like
Speaker 3: thirty years and knows anything you would need to know
Speaker 3: correct about grounds keeping. Yes, so I noticed, Okay, the
Speaker 3: goal line, yeah, goes. It's like I think I think
Speaker 3: the NFLFI is like fifty three and a half yards wide, right,
Speaker 3: it goes, It touches the sideline, goes all the way
Speaker 3: across the field and touches the other sideline. However, all
Speaker 3: the other lines at five yards and ten yards of
Speaker 3: fifteen yards, all of them stop before what I found
Speaker 3: out was eight inches before meeting up with the sideline.
Speaker 3: They don't go all the way from sideline to sideline.
Speaker 3: They stop eight inches short on both sides. Do you
Speaker 3: know why?
Speaker 1: So that they know that they're in bounds. Yes, is
Speaker 1: that the reason?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, so why are you shocked when I give you
Speaker 1: the answer?
Speaker 3: I didn't know the answer. Ronde Barber didn't know the answer. No,
Speaker 3: he didn't. He'll tell you he didn't know.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 3: Yeah. At first he thought, I think I know this,
Speaker 3: but he couldn't think of it. And then when we
Speaker 3: asked Rob Julian, we both realized we didn't know this.
Speaker 3: So George Toma, who they call the Sodfather, he's ninety
Speaker 3: four years old and still involved in the.
Speaker 1: NFL, still does the Super Bowl with the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's the head guy anymore.
Speaker 1: No, no, but he kind of comes in and blesses it.
Speaker 3: He was with the Chiefs, I believe, for a very
Speaker 3: long time as their head groundskeeper. Basically the most famous
Speaker 3: NFL groundskeeper of all time and an innovator. He's the
Speaker 3: one who started doing this because he felt it would
Speaker 3: help the refs be able to tell if the player's
Speaker 3: foot was in bounds right, because there's clearness, you know,
Speaker 3: if you're stepping on the white of the not the sideline,
Speaker 3: but the yard line, it might be a little hard
Speaker 3: to tell if you're stepping on the white. Where does
Speaker 3: the yard line in and where does the sideline start?
Speaker 3: And so you take that eight inches out and you
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about being confused by the white
Speaker 3: of the yard.
Speaker 1: Line, which is it's pretty good. Yeah, it's a good
Speaker 1: little thing. It's also you know, it also lets the
Speaker 1: player know he's got some ground, see what I'm saying. Guess,
Speaker 1: so he could tap his toes.
Speaker 3: I don't think you're usually looking at your feet when
Speaker 3: you do that.
Speaker 1: Though, Well I don't know, well, probably not, I guess
Speaker 1: I don't. Personally, I don't know how you get your
Speaker 1: ball and then put your feet down like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just amazing. But that separates the really good to
Speaker 1: the from the great. So all right, was that was
Speaker 1: your That was your.
Speaker 3: Last my last point you want to discuss?
Speaker 1: No, I don't, I know. I the weather was nice
Speaker 1: for our game. I mean, you know, what more could
Speaker 1: you add? Maybe it just it just made the holidays
Speaker 1: very triple. I was thinking about that. It's hard enough,
Speaker 1: and I get it, and I'm not looking for sympathy
Speaker 1: or from anybody or anything. When you work the holidays,
Speaker 1: you're used to it and you just do it. However,
Speaker 1: if you're working the holidays, you're sure like to have
Speaker 1: a win because it just makes things easier, you know,
Speaker 1: and you just feel better. And that's so that is
Speaker 1: the plus.
Speaker 3: So there's okay, So the questions here. The first one
Speaker 3: here is an email from Elliott Lovejoy. You remember who
Speaker 3: I do? From Australia. Huh, it's not actually a question.
Speaker 1: Did he come? Yes, he was here.
Speaker 3: I came and met him. We spent some time when
Speaker 3: where Saturday?
Speaker 1: He came here? Really?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you haven't listened to us before and
Speaker 3: read a question from this show.
Speaker 1: He came here and you go somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Came here. I showed him around. He's a what are you? What?
Speaker 3: You always he's so, he's a radio guy. He also
Speaker 3: has a I found out he also does play by
Speaker 3: play for a rugby team, which is his main job,
Speaker 3: the radio thing. He's a drive time he does a
Speaker 3: drive show and uh, I don't remember what part of
Speaker 3: Australia he told me, And now I'm blanking on it.
Speaker 3: But still, yeah, I showed him around, We talked, he
Speaker 3: interviewed me for a to put it on.
Speaker 1: There you are, you're You're just a regular hog. There
Speaker 1: at the with the publicity of the Salty Dogs.
Speaker 3: Well, you didn't want to come in on Saturday, I
Speaker 3: told you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, okay, I had things to do on Saturday.
Speaker 3: I see he said something. I'm like, oh, I want
Speaker 3: to remember that that. He uses the phrase bricking it.
Speaker 3: Bricking it Yeah, and in Australia that means basically, you know,
Speaker 3: like in a key situation, kind of shit in your pants.
Speaker 1: Ah, so breaking up, breaking it. Oh, maybe you know what.
Speaker 1: We're going to use that during our broadcast.
Speaker 3: Breaking it. Yeah, it's probably better than saying it in
Speaker 3: your pants. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'll talk to Gene about that and see if we
Speaker 1: can get If the opposing team bricks it, we're gonna
Speaker 1: call it.
Speaker 3: Man, that quarterback just through five straight in complete.
Speaker 1: Es bricking it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I got that right.
Speaker 1: Check on that because I do want to use that.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: In fact, it's funny you said that. Gena and I
Speaker 1: were talking about we used to do code where we
Speaker 1: used to do when I was with the sports station.
Speaker 1: We used to have you listen. If you listen to
Speaker 1: the broadcast, sometimes we would give you a word to hear,
Speaker 1: like stink eye, something like that. You know, some kind
Speaker 1: of weird word that Gene had to work into the broadcast,
Speaker 1: and when he did that, you had to remember what
Speaker 1: quarter it was. And then the next day we would say, hey,
Speaker 1: when did Jeans say stink eye? And you would call
Speaker 1: in and if you were the right caller and had it,
Speaker 1: you would win to y to the next game. So
Speaker 1: it was recycling your listeners and we were just talking
Speaker 1: about that. So bricking it, huh.
Speaker 3: I have a friend who used to years ago occasionally
Speaker 3: give me words to see if I could work him
Speaker 3: into my stories on the website.
Speaker 1: Oh, I liked that.
Speaker 3: I don't remember anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so have we heard from from him since the game?
Speaker 1: Because he was at the game, so he must have
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. I mean, he certainly saw a great
Speaker 1: buccaneer game. Yeah.
Speaker 3: What was the date of the game?
Speaker 1: Twenty fourth?
Speaker 3: No, he hasn't emailed since or maybe.
Speaker 1: And so that would have been that had have been
Speaker 1: pretty cool.
Speaker 3: No, he mailed me later the same day. Okay, anyway,
Speaker 3: that was fun. I enjoyed meeting him. He seemed like
Speaker 3: a great guy. He is going to be here?
Speaker 1: Is he a younger guy?
Speaker 3: Well, he's younger than me. Well, Okay, he's going to
Speaker 3: be here. Oh had he had a Bucks flag tattoo on?
Speaker 3: No way, a lot of tattoos, yeah, full for both, Yeah, sleeves,
Speaker 3: but he had well it was it wasn't like one
Speaker 3: sleeve just it was a bunch of stuff. But he
Speaker 3: had a Buck's flag on his wrist. He said it
Speaker 3: was one of the first ones he got. That is
Speaker 3: very cool.
Speaker 1: That's that's you know, I get a check from the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: I ain't got no butt black on me.
Speaker 3: Well, my version of needles means I'm surely.
Speaker 1: Never Yeah, you're not going down that road.
Speaker 3: Although I do, like I'm kind of a fan, to
Speaker 3: be honest with you, of tattoos.
Speaker 1: Tattoos. I love the show in Master, I love that. Well,
Speaker 1: those are artists, Yes they are.
Speaker 3: They are. Have you ever seen the show? Yes, they so,
Speaker 3: you know, they do the they do those flash challenges,
Speaker 3: and it's it's like some other type of medium they're
Speaker 3: working in and they're like just incredible artists.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like they put a stencil there and yeah.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I'm so impressed with I mean, sure the
Speaker 3: drama on the show is manufacturing kind of Yeah, the
Speaker 3: art history he's going to be in US for like
Speaker 3: three weeks and he's going to fourteen sporting events.
Speaker 1: What a great holiday he's having.
Speaker 3: He's going to all three remaining Bucks games, including the
Speaker 3: one in Charlotte.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: I know he's going to a Bowl game. I believe
Speaker 3: in New York City he's going to at least one
Speaker 3: NHL game.
Speaker 1: Wow. They pay really good over there. Maybe you go
Speaker 1: to fourteen events if you figure if well, all the travels,
Speaker 1: if you just go to fourteen events and let's just
Speaker 1: say it's one hundred dollars ticket, that's fourteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean you know you have you got
Speaker 3: to go? Do it up right?
Speaker 1: It's like going to Disney World, right, gotta.
Speaker 3: Go Disney World. What.
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan, I understand that, but people are
Speaker 1: and they like to go and it's not cheap.
Speaker 3: Let's get to the actual question. This one from Alexander
Speaker 3: no ozil okay a hois holiday salty ones? I hope
Speaker 3: this finds you both well. Now he's going to quiz
Speaker 3: you specifically. Oh. I thought it would be fun if
Speaker 3: you could ask mister Ryan who caught the longest pass
Speaker 3: yesterday and give him three tries. I don't think you
Speaker 3: will guess it right. I think you will, and you
Speaker 3: could have some extra fun this week since you did.
Speaker 1: Thanks for reading the longest pass.
Speaker 3: Who caught our longest pass of the Jacks? Wogan?
Speaker 1: Gosh, I don't think it was Mike.
Speaker 3: I aren't giving you anything.
Speaker 1: I know you are your stone. The longest pass. Wow,
Speaker 1: you got me stumped there.
Speaker 3: I got too much belief in your Jeff.
Speaker 1: No, I'm serious. I'm kind of blanking.
Speaker 3: We'll take three guesses.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, we'll say Mike, Nope, all right, our tight end? No,
Speaker 1: that was a short No? Yeah, our tight end? Oh eighty.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel it's so embarrassed right now.
Speaker 3: Was that?
Speaker 1: No, I'm not I'm not. I'm gonna be honest with this.
Speaker 1: I know you're trying to think of you know who
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Was it him?
Speaker 3: So? Do you mean number eighty? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, Pain, Durham Pain. I apologize, I apologize.
Speaker 3: It's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where.
Speaker 3: Salty Dogs were old. We have memory.
Speaker 1: I had to think I had to when he said
Speaker 1: the longest I was like processing.
Speaker 3: You remember the corner.
Speaker 1: It was a corner route, it was over the shoulder.
Speaker 3: It was great.
Speaker 1: It was a great catch pain Durham.
Speaker 3: He's had I think five catches this season, but he's
Speaker 3: had some big catches.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I got doubt.
Speaker 3: Yeah you got it with him three, I mean with
Speaker 3: a little bit of a.
Speaker 1: Yes, with a little assist.
Speaker 3: Okay, he's got five catches for fifty eight yards.
Speaker 1: My problem is I watched so much football after that game.
Speaker 1: Oh did you I actually watched the the Nickelodeon version
Speaker 1: of the Kansas City.
Speaker 3: Yeah it is, okay, And you're making fun of me
Speaker 3: watching the Barbie movie.
Speaker 1: Well I know, Well, I'm going to catch up on
Speaker 1: the Barbie movie. In fact, it was on it was
Speaker 1: on the TV today, but I'm at work, so I
Speaker 1: couldn't watch it. Oh, yes, sure I saw it.
Speaker 3: Sure, I never watched a movie. Ye.
Speaker 1: It's too busy, too busy at work.
Speaker 3: All right, ready, Yeah, we got a real international. Okay.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, I wonder if he's going to go
Speaker 1: to the game when when they go to Brazil next year.
Speaker 3: There's any possible question.
Speaker 1: I know that's a hard get. That's going to be
Speaker 1: a hard ticket because that's a small stadium.
Speaker 3: I think he might have said he hopes the Bucks
Speaker 3: are in it. We will not be in it. No,
Speaker 3: because we do not play the Dolphins. Are almost certainly
Speaker 3: going to be in it, and we all believe that. Yes,
Speaker 3: because the Dolphins are the only team that has Brazil
Speaker 3: as an international home marketing.
Speaker 1: Area, right, and we do not play the Dolphins.
Speaker 3: And so it's almost certain that there'll be one of
Speaker 3: the teams in the game, and since we don't play
Speaker 3: the Dolphins, it won't be us, right. Okay, this is
Speaker 3: a fan we've heard from before in Berlin. Uh huh
Speaker 3: Stefan H. Hello Salty Dogs. Merry Christmas for you and
Speaker 3: your families. Thank you, Stefan, you too. I hope you
Speaker 3: had a wonderful time. After the four and seven moment,
Speaker 3: the excitement is back, even stronger than the beginning of
Speaker 3: the season. The playoffs are calling, hopefully with a ten
Speaker 3: and seven record. I have a question to Coke Keiston
Speaker 3: TD against the Packers. Sorry a week late because of
Speaker 3: work as a policeman. I didn't know he's a policeman.
Speaker 3: One catch, one TD. I think he was effective. He
Speaker 3: put in quote quotation marks in Minnesota as well, a
Speaker 3: catch often means touchdown. I think he's saying throw it
Speaker 3: to keif you get a touchdown, Yeah, okay, I would
Speaker 3: I would be happy to have another option in the
Speaker 3: red zone and see that more often in the future.
Speaker 3: Let's go and sweep the Saints on New Year's Eve.
Speaker 3: Go Bucks. So that really wasn't a question.
Speaker 1: No, it is like a statements.
Speaker 3: But here's the point though, Stefan, I think the reason
Speaker 3: why that play worked is because it was unexpected. So
Speaker 3: you don't start throwing to Coke keef to every time
Speaker 3: you get in. He's going to be in the game
Speaker 3: to be or look like a blocker or maybe even
Speaker 3: block and then release. That's typically It's like the fullback
Speaker 3: play that teams always used to run, but the o
Speaker 3: fullbacks anymore. The fullback runs through like he's the lead blocker,
Speaker 3: they fake the handoff behind him, and the feel like
Speaker 3: just then turns out towards the sideline. I feel like
Speaker 3: that play worked one percent of the time back then
Speaker 3: teams used it. So this was a similar play to that. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, he can be helpful in the red zone,
Speaker 3: but you don't want to go that well very often, right,
Speaker 3: especially when you have a guy like Mike Evans. By
Speaker 3: the way, we didn't talk about Mike Evans.
Speaker 1: We talked about how we need to resign him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you say? Time out?
Speaker 3: Time out from the mail bag real.
Speaker 1: Quick, because Mike Evans.
Speaker 3: Mike Evans caught two touchdown passes to move to ninety four.
Speaker 3: He broke a tie with Devonte Adams and Rob Gronkowski
Speaker 3: to move into twelfth place all alone. He's now five
Speaker 3: behind Don Hudson for eleventh place, and then six behind
Speaker 3: I can't remember who for tenth place. Again, what more
Speaker 3: can we say?
Speaker 1: You can't, but you can't say. Whatever you say, it
Speaker 1: is not enough.
Speaker 3: I think I've said it on this podcast already, So
Speaker 3: I'm sorry for being a broken record. We started the
Speaker 3: season wondering what Mike needed to do to get to
Speaker 3: his resume to make him a Hall of Famer. At
Speaker 3: this point, nobody questions he's a Hall of Famer. It's
Speaker 3: just is he a first ballot? And he sure seems
Speaker 3: to be closer and closer to that.
Speaker 1: He has thirteen touchdowns and five in at least five seasons.
Speaker 1: The only people who have done that are in twelve seasons.
Speaker 3: He said twelve or more in five.
Speaker 1: Seasons, Okay, and so the only people who have done
Speaker 1: that are in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: Jerry Rice, Marvin Harrison, Terrell Owens, and somebody else very famous.
Speaker 1: Somebody else very famous in the Hall of Famers. It's
Speaker 1: not only me that has this brain.
Speaker 3: Well, I remember three of them, Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens,
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison, and Randy Moss. How did you? How did
Speaker 3: we forget? Right? They're the only and now Mike joins them?
Speaker 3: Is the only five guys have five or more seasons
Speaker 3: with twelve touchdown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good criteria to say you should be
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: He leads the He leads the NFL in touchdown catches
Speaker 3: now over Tyreek Hill. Yeah, I guess we don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know what the problem is with
Speaker 1: Mike is I don't think there's a problem. Well, no,
Speaker 1: it is. And it's unfair to him is that he
Speaker 1: just does so many fabulous phenomenal catches that you just go, oh,
Speaker 1: that's Mike, you know, it's just like, oh, yeah, that's Mike.
Speaker 1: But I was very, very excited for him, and I
Speaker 1: like Jean's call because he touchdown and then he says,
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Mike. That's pretty funny.
Speaker 3: So the three yard touchdown pass I loved because I
Speaker 3: have said before that when you're down there, like first
Speaker 3: and goal from the two or three, it doesn't have
Speaker 3: to be that complicated, and you don't have to run
Speaker 3: a fade. You can run a very split, your best
Speaker 3: guy out to one side all alone and run some
Speaker 3: very simple pattern. You know what his pattern was. They
Speaker 3: called it an out on next ten stats, but it
Speaker 3: was really a pivot. Do you know what a pivot is?
Speaker 1: You do he goes out, he starts in, You start in.
Speaker 3: Well, you could do it either way, but in this case,
Speaker 3: he just basically takes a couple steps into the end zone.
Speaker 3: The defenders right there, he's on the inside of him.
Speaker 3: He cuts towards like he's going to run in, and
Speaker 3: then you stop and you pivot with your face turning
Speaker 3: towards the quarterback. No, you pivot and then you go
Speaker 3: in the other direction. And and then in this case,
Speaker 3: the defender was so badly thrown off by the pivot
Speaker 3: that Mike was opened by like three yards.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: It's like in a Super Bowl keen of mccardi's two
Speaker 3: short touch on catches were just the simplest little routes.
Speaker 3: You don't have to run a fade to the back.
Speaker 1: Coaches don't have to outthink themselves.
Speaker 3: Well, I think Dave Canallis is doing a great job.
Speaker 3: And then the second one was a much more difficult play.
Speaker 3: That one. He had to split two defenders. It was
Speaker 3: basically a skinny post and he made a you know,
Speaker 3: a leaping that might get it between two defenders. That one,
Speaker 3: according to next Gen Set's, had a twenty nine point
Speaker 3: six percent chance of being completed. So great pass, great catch.
Speaker 3: That's great. All right, back to the emails. All right,
Speaker 3: got two more right, This one's from Daniel in pom Harbor.
Speaker 3: All right, Ohoi salty dogs. Hope you guys had a
Speaker 3: great Christmas. I'm smiling from an ear to ear right now.
Speaker 3: That was the best game we've played all season. I agree,
Speaker 3: I think it was, right, I do. I mean, the
Speaker 3: New Orleans game was pretty good, but this one's probably.
Speaker 1: I thought the Minnesota game was pretty good. It was
Speaker 1: a good way to start, but yeah, New Orleans was
Speaker 1: a good betch mark. And then you had the Packer
Speaker 1: game beat the Saints game, and I think this game
Speaker 1: was even better than the Packer game.
Speaker 3: We're sixty minutes away from a four straight playoff appearance
Speaker 3: in third Street Division title. So close. We made a
Speaker 3: statement win by winning our first game with a team,
Speaker 3: say with a winning record. There you go. Statement.
Speaker 1: But you know when you look at green Bay, green
Speaker 1: Bay beat Kansas City, you know, so it.
Speaker 3: Is Minnesota No. Seven and eight. I believe they are
Speaker 3: in green Bay seven and eight.
Speaker 1: Yep, and we're eight and seven.
Speaker 3: Uh. The only the only one negative is we can't
Speaker 3: score a touchdown on our first drive.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know. Every week we're moving the ball
Speaker 1: down run. I know, here it comes. I got the
Speaker 1: card ready to go.
Speaker 3: We've been doing a good job of scoring on our
Speaker 3: a touchdown second drive every game, and hopefully that will
Speaker 3: happen this week. My question is how many free agents
Speaker 3: do we have after this season and what's the salary
Speaker 3: cap situation since we took a big hit last year
Speaker 3: when Brady retired. Thanks again for reading email and answer
Speaker 3: my questions on a weekly basis.
Speaker 1: Yep, you answer that, Scott.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna have to look it up. I wish
Speaker 3: I had prepared the thing about Brady though we took
Speaker 3: the cap hit, all of it this year. Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: not an issue next year, which was a good move.
Speaker 3: As it turns out.
Speaker 1: In hindsight, it looks like a brilliant maneuver.
Speaker 3: All Right, cap Tracker here on spot Track twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: We're not bad, but that's because we got to a
Speaker 3: lot of guys that need to sign right now. We're
Speaker 3: estimated to have forty seven million dollars of cap space,
Speaker 3: which isn't bad. That's eleventh, but that's without these guys
Speaker 3: under contract. Baker, Mike Lante, Antwine, Devin all Right. The
Speaker 3: free agents we will have next year, I mean that
Speaker 3: we could potentially have because you can get some of
Speaker 3: them signed before they become free agents and hopefully will
Speaker 3: or you can also use the franchise tag. Mike Evans,
Speaker 3: Devin White, Levante, David Baker, Mayfield, Greg Gaines, William Golston,
Speaker 3: Matt Filer, Antoine Winfield, Aaron Stinney, Chase Edmonds, Ryan neil
Speaker 3: Zach Trinner, the long snapper, Chase McLaughlin, Cam Gill, d Delaney,
Speaker 3: Nick Leverett, Justin's School, Devin Tompkins, Brandon Walton, and David Wells.
Speaker 1: Wow, but you know what, let's not every team has
Speaker 1: a list like, yeah, let's not worry about that until
Speaker 1: after the season's over, with time in February.
Speaker 3: Let's I'm going to click on this market value though,
Speaker 3: Okay there estimated market value for Mike Evans is twenty
Speaker 3: three point five.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: For Devin they have him met twenty point one. They
Speaker 3: don't have anything listened for Levonte for some reason. For
Speaker 3: Baker they have him at seventeen.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's if you can get Baker for seventeen, that's
Speaker 1: lower than I expected. Yeah, if you can get that
Speaker 1: and Antoine for eighteen point two week they may they
Speaker 1: may have that in there now because the playoffs aren't
Speaker 1: there yet, so who knows.
Speaker 3: Anyway, what I say about it or what spat Trek
Speaker 3: says about it has nothing to do with what the
Speaker 3: team and his agent r so I going to say
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 1: It's completely irrelevant. Yeah, it's all fine and dandy.
Speaker 3: One more from Mark Rice. I think that's the Mesa guy. Yep, Mesa, Macea, Arizona,
Speaker 3: Merry Christmas Dogs and FILLI Bucks fans Ho Ho Ho
Speaker 3: four in a row. At risk of sounding completely unoriginal,
Speaker 3: after these past few weeks, I'm all in on Baker
Speaker 3: as our quarterback of the foreseeable future. Okay, I would
Speaker 3: like I would like to see him throw the ball
Speaker 3: away more willingly when his first reads aren't open, as
Speaker 3: the recent sacks tend to have come from holding onto
Speaker 3: the ball too long. Yeah, and while it is great
Speaker 3: to have a quarterback who doesn't shy away from contact
Speaker 3: and is willing to lower his shoulder to get those
Speaker 3: extra hard fought yards, I'd still be clapping if many
Speaker 3: of those run ended in slides. Right these minor tweaks aside,
Speaker 3: he seems to be knocking on the door of becoming
Speaker 3: a truly elite NFL quarterback. To have a guy with
Speaker 3: this much upside already in the building, with a good
Speaker 3: number of with a number of good years in front
Speaker 3: of him, feels like a unique opportunity for us. It is.
Speaker 3: Baker just shot to the top of my admittedly lengthy
Speaker 3: list of offseason priorities. I think he's a quarterback we
Speaker 3: can build around and hopefully keep some of our impenning
Speaker 3: free agents to play with. I'm all in go Bucks.
Speaker 3: Mark from Mesa Like what.
Speaker 1: He says, Like what he says.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a well laid out argument for resigning
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: I think the part that that I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know if we fully we you and I would kind
Speaker 1: of do. But the impact he has on the team
Speaker 1: and how the players respond to him, and how he
Speaker 1: interacts with everybody in the organization, it's it's funny because
Speaker 1: not all players are that way. You know, they'll act
Speaker 1: differently with the ball staff compared to what we consider
Speaker 1: ourselves as the business staff. But he he'll trade barbes
Speaker 1: with anybody. He's he's very personable and it's not fake.
Speaker 1: That's that's the part I like. It's not he's not
Speaker 1: glad handing you because well, I think this is what
Speaker 1: I need to do.
Speaker 3: So very genuine guy.
Speaker 1: M M.
Speaker 3: I think that's part of what has made him a
Speaker 3: good leader. He said himself the other days, like, I
Speaker 3: don't really try to lead, No, I just try to
Speaker 3: be one of the guys.
Speaker 1: Well, he is one of the guys. So he's done.
Speaker 1: He did some pretty he's done some really nice things quietly.
Speaker 3: In the community.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well in the community for the team guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for like equipment guys, equipment guys, especially around the holidays.
Speaker 3: Yes, he was very genus. He has won over the
Speaker 3: entire building. There's no doubt whatsoever. I don't know what's
Speaker 3: going to happen. I want to emphasize that again, I
Speaker 3: have no insight information on what the Bucketers want to
Speaker 3: do with Baker. He says he would like to stay,
Speaker 3: so sure he likes it here, I guess is the
Speaker 3: way to put it. Yeah, Well, I feel like I
Speaker 3: just feel like it's gonna happen. Well, I get information.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, because of the way everything's trending, of
Speaker 1: course you're going to feel that way. But I kind
Speaker 1: of lean towards you know, for it to happen, the
Speaker 1: club has to want him, and he wants has to
Speaker 1: want to be here because he could be a guy
Speaker 1: and he says he does yeah, and he could be
Speaker 1: a guy. He could be this guy that he gets
Speaker 1: an opportunity he it unfolds. But now the market's wide
Speaker 1: open and someone else is going to look and go, wow,
Speaker 1: you know, we can get Baker Mayfield Heisman Trophy winners experience.
Speaker 3: There's got to be some advantage though to staying in
Speaker 3: the same system with that organization that you fit in
Speaker 3: with so well.
Speaker 1: Well, if you look at his career with Cleveland, how
Speaker 1: many head coaches, he's had, he had how many offensive
Speaker 1: court Almost every.
Speaker 3: Year there were change.
Speaker 1: His stability is everything. And the key I got was
Speaker 1: at the podium Sunday night, he said he's having more
Speaker 1: fun than he has in five years. And to me,
Speaker 1: that just speaks five And here's a guy that's been
Speaker 1: knocked around, He's made some money, he's been knocked around.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you just you just want tranquility in
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I want to make sure I'm not putting
Speaker 3: words in his mouth. I think what he has said
Speaker 3: is he really likes it here, he likes yours. I
Speaker 3: don't know if he's said the words I want to
Speaker 3: stay here. I don't think he's answered it in that
Speaker 3: he hasn't said the opposite either. But when asked about this,
Speaker 3: obviously this is a thing that is a matter for
Speaker 3: the off season. Same thing when Todd Bowles. But he
Speaker 3: does say how much he likes the organization, how much
Speaker 3: he likes the team, how much fun he's having. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so it's been good. I don't know if he's said
Speaker 3: the words I want to stay here. He might have,
Speaker 3: but I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I don't remember.
Speaker 3: But I don't want to put words into him.
Speaker 1: But I remember him saying that he's having the most fun.
Speaker 1: And I put a lot of a lot of credence
Speaker 1: in that because when you're having fun, yeah, it means
Speaker 1: you're in a good environment and that well, it.
Speaker 3: Motivates you also to try to get something done. Well.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like your job. You know, you love,
Speaker 1: you love what you do for a living, but the
Speaker 1: organization you're with is not exactly where you want to
Speaker 1: be even though you love what you do. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about in general. I don't care what
Speaker 1: you do for a living. If you love what you do,
Speaker 1: but if if the people around you is not, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not great. You're not having a good time, and
Speaker 1: that's when you got to make changes.
Speaker 3: When it comes to being a football player and especially quarterback.
Speaker 3: I think another factor of the equation though, is do
Speaker 3: you think you can win right you're at and.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I think him and Dave Canalis have
Speaker 1: grown together and that could be hey what can we do?
Speaker 1: Because if you don't win the Super Bowl this year,
Speaker 1: next year you might be thinking, hey, I got a
Speaker 1: better shot, you know.
Speaker 3: I think unless things go really badly in the next
Speaker 3: few weeks, you'd have to believe that you can win here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I, like I said, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: get too high right now. I mean, I just need
Speaker 1: one more win to get us to.
Speaker 3: The playoffs where Yeah, I hope next week we are talking.
Speaker 1: If I'm salting next week, watch out.
Speaker 3: That's all I can say. I just you can never
Speaker 3: you can't. I feel like we're playing better than the
Speaker 3: Saints right now, but you can never know for sure.
Speaker 3: This New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Wow, I was just gonna say, these two teams just
Speaker 1: don't like each other.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think I would have thought we
Speaker 3: would win twenty six to nine there in week four.
Speaker 1: No, no, I thought we'd I thought we'd win, but
Speaker 1: I didn't think like that.
Speaker 3: And so you can't. I can't just sit here and
Speaker 3: coinfelly go, We're gonna win this game because we're better
Speaker 3: than them, and we're at home now.
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles does have success against them so well.
Speaker 3: The last couple of years have been going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, before that, all right, but that is the uh.
Speaker 1: But but that is that's the thing. One out of two.
Speaker 1: Take care of business early. And besides, it doesn't just
Speaker 1: feel better to win that I want to win if
Speaker 1: I want to win it because you beat the Saints,
Speaker 1: and because everybody said the Saints were going to win
Speaker 1: the division.
Speaker 3: That's why they've been They were saying it through most
Speaker 3: of the season. It would be weird to win a
Speaker 3: division in a season in which you lost six games
Speaker 3: in a seven week span. Hey, this would be weird.
Speaker 1: Don't matter how you do it. Yeah, it's very very strange.
Speaker 3: Ten and seven, but one in six in the span
Speaker 3: is just strange. Anyway, enough of that, I know I'm done.
Speaker 1: I am too.
Speaker 3: It is good. It's about time to go home.
Speaker 1: It is totally total, and everybody left.
Speaker 3: I've been watching listen, you and me.
Speaker 1: When I see Brian Ford leave before me, I know
Speaker 1: it's trouble. And he left fifteen minutes ago.
Speaker 3: It's a competition between you and me, and.
Speaker 1: I'm out as soon as I'm back in this. I'm
Speaker 1: not even This is not going to get.
Speaker 3: Loaded till tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I got you all right, Since you did, Thanks for listening.