1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. It's unsubscribing to Move the Sticks. 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus and I am joined by 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: room filled with some Here I was Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: and to my right for the first time ever, Nick Shuck. 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: What's up? Boys? Hey Dan? Why is money attempting for uh, 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, consecutive shows to stir the pot between us 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: and other NFL media entities. We don't need it. It's 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: week thirteen. We joke about Mark, I joke about it 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: with you that we're almost of the home stretch of 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: the season and all that stuff, But we really are. 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: We're almost out of the woods of two thousand seventeen. 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: We just don't need more drama. And yes, I have 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: unsubscribed to Move the Sticks, but that is not a 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: separate issue, right and totally separative. See, I'm not trying 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: to catch like a flying cross from Daniel Jeremiah, you 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: know in the hallway. I'm just not gonna speak for 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: this entire week unless I'm at my desk. Maybe he 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: won't recognize me unless he hears me. I don't think 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: you're the first, uh gentleman at work that anyone's going 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: to attempt to take on physically and that's just my Yeah. 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: But this is serious stuff on subscription. Yeah, that is 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: serious stuff. This is yes, the flagship edition of You 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast presented by head Head and Shoulders 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: um Our Week thirteen Sunday Recap, a week in which, uh, 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: the a f C West got more muddled and some 27 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Titans in the NFC in the NFC once again reminded 28 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: us that there are some dang good football teams West 29 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: playing in the National Football Conferences. It would be Titans 30 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: in the old clash of the Titan sense, not the 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: middling team from the a f C South, exactly exactly. 32 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: So we're gonna go through each of the game's um 33 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: fourteen in total, including the Sunday night football matchup that 34 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: will close with between the Eagles and Seahawks. Uh we 35 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, why mess around, Mark? No, I mean we're 36 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: a minute half into the show and we've gotten a 37 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: Harry Hamlin film reference from West, so we're Oh and 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: where's Greg? Greg, as you may be aware, is in 39 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: No Leans. He was helping to cover the Carolina Panthers 40 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: Saints matchup. So we'll get him on the phone if 41 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: if he's even coherent at this state, you know, you 42 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: set Greg loose in the big easy. I mean he 43 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: might go have one drink. It could be in the 44 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: hoose game. You never know you're gonna get from Gregg. 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: You might have one beverage before going to bed at PM. 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: Who's gow uh. Let's get to the game though, and 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: Greg in in a few minutes. But we'll start with 48 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings and Atlanta Falcons. Oh a showdown of 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: Nnescy Titans and the Goods Kingdom takes the pad, helpline, stap, 50 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: three step drop, fire to the end zone, taught touchdown, 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: fucking tower ROUTOLP with the touchdown reception nine Minnesota Paul 52 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: Allen k f x N with the call yes. The 53 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings keep rolling Keith k case Keenum through two touchdowns, 54 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: including that one you heard to Kyle Rudolph, and the 55 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: Vikings shut down the Falcons on offense. A fourteen nine 56 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: win um for the Vikings, who have now won eight 57 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: in a row, and they repeatedly proved this season that 58 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: they have a defense that can stop just about anybody, 59 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: including a Falcon. Seaman is playing tremendously well in recently weeks, 60 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: West very impressive. Once again, the Vikings. The tougher team 61 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: won in this game, and Case Keenum outplayed Matt Ryan, although, 62 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: as there's always the case in these things, quarterback who 63 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: outplayed the other one got a lot more help from 64 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: his teammates. Matt Ryan was under pressure quite a bit. 65 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: A lot of penalties from his offensive line put him 66 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: in third and long situations all day. They had been 67 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: converting an unreal sixty of their third downs in recent weeks, 68 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: and they were one for ten today. And then on 69 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: the other side, the Vikings Keenum had a strong ground attack. 70 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: Latavius Murray keeps playing well, so offensive line kept him 71 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: pretty clean. It was conservative game plan, uh not too 72 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: many downfield throws, but the Keenum came up big on 73 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: third downs, throwing converting to guys like la Kwan Treadwell 74 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: and Jerry's right on that fifth team play eighty nine 75 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: yard uh drive that Paul Allen was talking about a 76 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: minute ago on the radio call. I always feel it's 77 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: a great sign number twenty five of thirty for Case Keenum, 78 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: and it's the guy is just he's in his own obviously, 79 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: but when you see these connecting with the levern different targets. 80 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: That that's a quarterback that's seeing the field, spreading the 81 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: ball around, using everyone in every type of situation. And 82 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: you don't hear any ted Teddy Bridgewater talk anymore. And 83 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: that's great. Like Case Keenum took that opportunity and he 84 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: has run with it. Nick shook and now he's in 85 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: a position where Case Keenum, we I can't stress this enough. 86 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: Case Keenum is the man in charge for a Vikings 87 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: team that very much looks like it could go to 88 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Part of the reason you're gonna hear 89 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: anything about Teddy Bridgewaters because I'm sitting in Gregg seat 90 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: and that's usually Greg's platform. But he's playing really well. 91 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: You know, I had to defend him like a month 92 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: and a half ago or whenever the Browns played the Vikings, 93 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: and and since then it's he's only gotten better, you know, 94 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: like you said, thirty two or twenty seven yards, two 95 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: touchdowns and against the Falcons defense that's been playing better recently. 96 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean, this, this is this is probably the most 97 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: impressive win they've had all year. By the way, he 98 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: didn't he didn't throw an incomplete pass in the entire 99 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: second half, twelve or twelve in the second half, and 100 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: a lot of that was short passes, but they were 101 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: also third down conversions and Falcons defensive coordinator Mark Mark 102 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: kwon Manual I thought this was pretty telling, told the 103 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: Fox broadcast team when you turn on the tape, if 104 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: you didn't know any better, if you didn't know the 105 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: name on the jersey, you'd think this was one of 106 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: the very best quarterbacks in the NFL. Isn't that the 107 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: issue that it's the keenom name. People are still you know, 108 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: if you don't watch this team week to week, he's 109 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: still in theory as the inc on him from the 110 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: RAMS thing. But I think number one we talked about 111 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh and Jared Goff. Pat Shermer, who was a 112 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: failed head coach, has a coordinator of the Year type 113 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: scenario going on here, and I have to wonder if 114 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: a he could be a head coach next year at 115 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: this time. And Mike Zimmer, speaking of Sean McVeigh, I 116 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: really I think Sean McVeigh is gonna run away with 117 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: this Coach of the Year contest. But Mike Zimmer has 118 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: coming off of what you look at what he's accomplished 119 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: over a couple of seasons, the injuries he's overcome, the 120 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 1: way that this team is one of the toughest teams 121 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I feel like he's a Coach of 122 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: the Year type candidate right now, no questions asked. I 123 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: would never endorse Pat Shermer to be a head coach 124 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: for another team after the disaster that was his tenure 125 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. But you're right, he's running a really good 126 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: offense right now. And that that breakdown from Mark jan 127 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: Manuel was was extremely on point because you know, you 128 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: go back and watch some of the tape of of 129 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: case Keenum, especially in the second half of this season 130 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: so far, like when they played uh, you know, the Rams. 131 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he's doing things that I never would have 132 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: expected out of most quarterbacks, let alone Case Keenum, who 133 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: was you know, starting for the Rams last year. But 134 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: you gotta remember, also you don't want to put too 135 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: much of their college career into it, but he was 136 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: a really good quarterback in college, so this shouldn't be 137 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: extremely surprised. Um final question for US Julio Jones last 138 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: week fifteen targets twelve or two fifty three and two 139 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: touchdowns this week, two catches for twenty four yards targeted 140 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: just six times. Have that happened? Came out on I 141 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: believe the first play the Falcons ran and beat Xavier 142 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: Roads off the line. Matt Ryan threw a little bit 143 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: high and went off Julio Jones fingertips and they didn't 144 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: really get anything going after that. I think Xavier Rhodes 145 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: had a little bit of safety help over the top 146 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: as well, but he was talking about staying with Julio 147 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: to the point that even if Julio were lined up 148 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: at running back, he was moving to linebacker. They had 149 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: a plan, they stuck to it. They limited Julio Jones 150 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: and Matt Ryan didn't have a lot of time to 151 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: go through his progressions because of the pass rush and 152 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: one real quick thing. I mean they have the Saints 153 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: twice and the Panthers to close this season, you know, 154 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: along with the Bucks. I mean that the Falcons are 155 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: on the brink right now. Let's move on. Camara checks in. 156 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: He's the tailback in the eye. Here's Camara tackle ten 157 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: fun touchdowne Is he's twenty yard touchdown. Ron. I don't 158 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: know how he does with jam This is just funny. 159 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: It is funny Jim Henderson w w L with the 160 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: play by play call. There, Mark Ingram and Alvin Kamara 161 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: combined for nearly two d and fifty yards of offense 162 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: three touchdowns is The Saints took control of the NFC 163 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: South with a thirty one to twenty one win over 164 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. New Orleans swept the home at home 165 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: with their division rival, putting them in the driver's seat 166 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: for their first division title in a couple of years, right, 167 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: few years. I meant to look it up one of 168 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: those things a couple of years, a few years where 169 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: I just put four as a placeholder, and you know, 170 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: old Douser might be right, might be wrong. Specific I 171 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: think a couple or a few fits here, lindsay, let's 172 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: put you on that if you could. I'll come back 173 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: to you anyway. Now we welcome in Greg Rosenthal, the 174 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: old boss who was in the big easy for the 175 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: Saints latest statement win. Greg, First of all, First of all, 176 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: how the hell are you? I I'm doing great, And 177 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: I got an answer for you. Two thousand thirteen was 178 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: the last time they wanted division? Was that? Four years? Four? Right? 179 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: A nailed it all, right, so four years they're going 180 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: to win the division Greg and they're and they're the 181 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: better team and it makes sense, right they they proved 182 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: it today. Uh, you know, after the game, mark Ingram said, 183 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: you know, did the Panthers have pushed them around for 184 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: the last few years? They wanted to come in. They 185 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: kind of are the team that the Panthers have been 186 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: and have wanted to be. They wanted to be the bullies. 187 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: And it's it's all Ingram and Camara's kind of the 188 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: Ingram and commercial. Like the first drive of the game, 189 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: Camara had four touches. They were all big games. He 190 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: lined up in a different spot on all four of 191 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: those plays, and I think that just kind of highlights 192 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: like what a serious problem he is on a week 193 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: to week basis. I was really struck in this game 194 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: by his strength a couple of a couple of play 195 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: near the goal line, a couple of times where he 196 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: took a good shot, stayed on his feet and got 197 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: more yards. And that's think nothing away by the way, 198 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: mark Ingram has kind of been in the background because 199 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: obviously Camara has been the rookie sensation third round pick, 200 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: but west Ingram has been um maybe not as explosive 201 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: but just as productive it's been. This is a kind 202 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: of legendary pairing this year. I think they're a perfect 203 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: compliment because Ingram, even though Camara has shown power, Ingram 204 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: is more of a between the trenches runner who can 205 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: do the passing game, whereas Camara is a passing game 206 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: guy who can do between the trenches. And Bucky Brooks 207 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: last week called them the best running back tandem in 208 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: NFL history. I mean, statistically, it's you could make the case. 209 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: Look at what they're doing since they traded Adrian Peterson, 210 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: We've never seen production like that out of a tandem. Amazing. 211 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: And and Greg Drew Brees again, we saw him save 212 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: the day against Washington a couple of weeks ago. But 213 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: this is back to that mode where he kind of 214 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: picks his spots where he helps the team. But this 215 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: is really of the backfields of the show here. Yeah, 216 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: they didn't protect him very well and so they just 217 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: had him, you know, throwing short passes, like with third 218 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: and ten late in the game, they're trying to you know, 219 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: run the clock out. The entire stadium knows it's going 220 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: to Komara and they throw at the Chimera and he 221 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: just makes you know, sixteen seventeen yard totally on his own, 222 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: but that goes and throw a breeze's statue. But it's 223 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: all the running back. But it's like they're like a 224 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: little they're a tandem and they're kind of playing it 225 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: up there doing all their interviews together, like you know 226 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: before they were getting ready, Like Alvin Camara is like 227 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: picking a little piece of wind out of mark Ingram's 228 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: you know beer, button Ingram is like straightening Camara's you 229 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: know hat. And I think like they they are best budds. 230 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: It sounds like from all and Kimara like he's the 231 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: star of the team and everyone kind of loves that. 232 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: Like it sounds it seems like he's just like such 233 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: a popular dude in that locker room over under two 234 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: weeks till they get a corny nickname. Oh it's coming 235 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: and Shook you're Chook, you're a huge NBA guy. Um no, 236 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: we're not doing this. One of the fun things about um, 237 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, the one two star dynamic and basketball is yeah, 238 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: with like the press conferences in the silly suits and stuff. 239 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: So maybe the NFL has one in the in this backfield. 240 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: They can they can start wearing stupid glasses and bad suits. 241 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: We we can't call Alvin uh And and Mark peanut 242 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: butter and jelly. But I think we are overlooking a 243 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: great chipmunk's reference seeing that his name is Alvin. It 244 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: took me until two weeks ago to even have this epiphany. Yeah, 245 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: the Chipmunks have never been more relevant. So let we 246 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: we must go down that road exactly, Greg, what else 247 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: was what was the scene like down there by the way. 248 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: People are in love with the Saints. They always have been, 249 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: but now they have a very special team. Yeah, you 250 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: get you get a late you know, this game was 251 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: flexed into the later afternoon, so you're getting the town 252 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: all looped up from about nine in the morning until 253 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: three in the afternoon. I mean, like it's a different 254 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: it's a different city when the Saints are good. I 255 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: mean the thing it's basically a one sport town and 256 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: I know they have the NBA here, but it's just 257 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: there's nothing quite like it. The whole streets are just 258 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: like jammed and and it's a fun team. I mean that. 259 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: I think that they're all happy that the Thames players, 260 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: like Kim Jordan was talking, it's been a long time 261 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: since they've been in meetingful games like this late in 262 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: the season, and they're you know, they're trying to they're 263 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: trying to enjoy it. Greg. That is your old stomping grounds. 264 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: And you know, we assume that hopefully you'll get out 265 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: tonight and make it happen. But question for you, how 266 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: often have you stopped on the street by you know, 267 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: football fans and just citizens who remember your run there 268 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: and just people kind of shot to see you in 269 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: person by running running through the park? I mean, was 270 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: going on your colossal social life that you've referenced many 271 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: times on this spot. Sometimes the air. Sometimes you had 272 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: to go to parks to pick up things. I haven't 273 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: been stopped on on the street at all, trying to 274 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: keep keep a low profile. You know, I'm not getting noticed. 275 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: How many grenades are gonna throw it back after we 276 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: get off the phone? Here, hand grenade, Hurricane, I'm gonna 277 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: have nine hand grenade, you know, after you after he's 278 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: done that a few times at the enough. But I'm 279 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: gonna go meet some friends. I still gotta I still 280 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: gotta write for quite a bit. Forget the writing, get 281 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: out there and have some This is a good perfect example, Greg, 282 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: where you can mail in a column. Go enjoy yourself 283 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: because morty years from now, um, let's give you fifty 284 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: years from now, when your your body's breaking down and 285 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: it's near the end, is the column your ranks tonight 286 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: gonna matter? Or having the time of your life? Yeah, 287 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: you're old stopping grounds. Remember either one of them because 288 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: you know after two or three years it's all awash. Yeah, 289 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: you don't have a great memory. All right, Greg, we 290 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: gotta keep moving. Thank you. Knock out that column, mail 291 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: that sucker in and then go have some fun. All right, 292 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: I'll see you guys. I think he's going to listen 293 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: to the advice. I think we swayed him away from 294 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: a what would have been a workman like evening. Let's 295 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: move on quick, snap back to God. He's gonna row 296 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: he pump Fis gets it out. Sammy Watkins crossing pattern 297 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: near side touchdown. Sammy Watkins from the far side of 298 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: the field, works across the middle. Goff found him from 299 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: a tough arm angle and Watkins goes in for his 300 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: six touchdown of the season and the Rams expand their lead. 301 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: JB Long KESPN with the call. Jared Goff pass for 302 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Los Angeles took advantage of some mistakes from 303 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: Blamee Gabbert, and the Rams tightened their death grip on 304 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: the NFC West a thirty two to sixteen win over 305 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals West. What did you learn about the 306 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: Rams today? Gregg mentioned this last week, But they have 307 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: the best special teams in football. And on a day 308 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: when the offense to me look kind of ordinary and 309 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips run defense was uh, kind of slashed by 310 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: Kerwin Williams running through gaping home John Bones Fossils special 311 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: teams came up big. Greg Zerline is leading the NFL 312 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: and points. He had four more field goals and has 313 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: more vel goals through twelve games in NFL history than 314 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: a kick or ever. Uh. Johnny Hecker is the best 315 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: punter in football. Had a big game. Pharaoh Cooper had 316 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: another big return. Michael Brock Michael Brocker's blocked a field 317 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: goal attempt in the fourth quarter. The Rams kind of 318 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: just took that alec Ogletree pick six on Blaine Gabbert 319 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: in the first quarter, jumped out to an early lead 320 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: and cruised from there. But they didn't seem to be 321 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: clicking on all cylinders. Kind of good to see them 322 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: when if this was maybe an ugly game or one 323 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: where they're not you know, high octane. Them's the way 324 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: they have been another other affairs, I mean Arizona this, 325 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, this was their season obviously were probably already 326 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: was weeks ago. But is there any hope with Blaine 327 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: Gabbert as a starter order or we seen a performance 328 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: to day that kind of wipes that some of that 329 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: chatter away. He had a few good plays. The first 330 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: interception was off one ft and it was a floater 331 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: that was easily picked in the pick six. But the 332 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: play that bothered me was he was scrambling for a 333 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: first down and he slid two yards short of the 334 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: sticks with only one man to be an open field, 335 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: and it's like, what do you think again? Why not 336 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: go for the first down there? It bothered me to 337 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: the point where I don't I don't know. Wait, what 338 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: are you gonna do to him? What are you hinting at? 339 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm just like Bruce arians talking about him possibly being 340 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: the starter in two thousand eighteen and other people talking about, 341 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, anytime you can get a former first round 342 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: pick with some obvious physical talent. He has a chance 343 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: to turn his career around. But but things like that 344 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 1: bothered me to the point where I just don't think 345 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: I could see him being the starter. I thought you 346 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: were about to declare some vengeance. I feel like the 347 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: football gods have already declared Vengeon, so I'm playing gambe team. 348 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: That's true. I feel like it. It sounds like that 349 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: was a business decision, you know, considering his future. I 350 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: don't know, do you really is he making a business 351 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: business decision in the heat of the moment like that? 352 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't done enough where where you know, 353 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: if he keeps himself healthy, if you're gonna say, listen, 354 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: this guy is a plug and play starter if you're 355 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: one of these six or seven QB needy teams. No, 356 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: I don't He hasn't done enough. Ted Gin has been 357 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: making a career out of making business decisions for well 358 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: over a decade. That's having a good year. That's certainly true. 359 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: And by the way, I got a little shout out 360 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: here for the team of a t l um. First 361 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: of all, West made some sandwiches today, um, And we 362 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: don't like to dig into our uh preseason prediction results 363 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: until after the season, but in this case, well earned West. 364 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: Because you predicted that the Rams would have a winning record, 365 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: we all disagreed. And guess what. The Rams at nine 366 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: and three clinch a winning season, and uh, they're gonna 367 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: win a few more games before it's all said and done. 368 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: Very nice season for the team of a t one 369 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: of the great turnarounds in NFL history, one of the 370 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: great transformations going. I believe there. Their point differential is 371 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: the third highest transformation ever and their difference in points 372 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: per game is the highest ever. Hawks up next to Yeah, 373 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh Coach of the Year. Let's slide over to 374 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: the a f C second an interests get the tide 375 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: like kits on the outside, ride give the birth. Cady 376 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: runs it off the middle, speak past the times, squashing 377 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: heavy tween the vendors for a touchdown. Patriots Bob Sochy 378 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: w b Z and I heard Zolak there too, or 379 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: you get to him in a minute. Anyway, business as 380 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: usual on the throne of ease. Rex Burke had scored 381 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: twice on the ground and the Patriots won their eighth straight, 382 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: beating the Buffalo Bills twenty three to three in Orchard Park. 383 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: Mark the Bills put up a respectable fight on the 384 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, but you gotta score points. 385 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor before he got hurt, didn't do anything, and 386 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: nobody else did either. The Bills just didn't get the 387 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: job done. Yeah, I mean, you can look at the 388 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: score twenty three to three and think, well, this probably 389 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: was just a wipeout from start to finish. But the 390 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: Bills really frustrated Tom Brady to the point where early 391 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: in the game, Brady got into Josh mcdeal space and 392 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: was going nuts. And those guys are buds. I mean, 393 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: you just don't see that kind of confrontation between Brady 394 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: and his in his play call are really ever And 395 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: so he was extremely frustrated. He was running for his 396 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: life for early on, and it was really a situation. 397 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right where the Bills started the game out 398 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: and I mentioned to Dan, like, this quarter is halfway 399 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: over where other games were like two minutes in. Still 400 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: they chewed up the clock, went all the way down 401 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: to the to New England's six yard line, and Taylor 402 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: through a really ridiculous pick to Eric Lee. And Eric 403 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: Lee is this guy that was on Buffalo's practice squad 404 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: has played one game that before this for the Patriots. 405 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: Last week had a sack, Today, got another sack, a 406 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: couple of past defense all over the place, all over 407 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: in Tyrod Taylor's business and providing pass rush. So if 408 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: we're still gonna ride this, and I think no one 409 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: is this point in this narrative that New England's defense 410 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 1: lacks X, Y, and Z. It's another game where they 411 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: gave up three points. They gave Buffalo no chance in offensively, 412 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: and Eric Lee is a emerging presence for this defense. 413 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: If you can keep it up. That's a classic Intel 414 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: move too. You signed a former guy a couple of 415 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: weeks beforehand, he goes off against his former team at 416 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: vintage Belichick. Yes that, by the way, fifteen straight seasons 417 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: now for ten plus wins for the Patriots. Credible? Are 418 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: you kidding me? Um? And um? Tyrod Taylor injured his 419 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: knee in this game, Marcus early on, and he heard it, Yeah, 420 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: he heard it very early. And you know, like they said, 421 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: Tony Romo was announcing this and he basically said, there's 422 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: no way Tyrod Taylor is gonna take himself out of 423 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: this game unless he simply cannot go. But by the end, 424 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: it got more serious and he just Nathan Peterman finished 425 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: the game. At that point, it was it was a 426 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: loss of her Lashaw McCoy another game where I thought 427 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: he ran really well, but there's just not enough in 428 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: this offense to challenge a team like New England. They 429 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: cannot finish drives. Yeah, and on the Gronk play, So 430 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: this was this will be a big talking point uh 431 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: this week, especially a big talking point if you or 432 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: your opponent has Rob Gronkowski and fantasy because late in 433 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: this game, the Patriots tight end was going deep on 434 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: a route. Bill's cornerback Tradavious White um was getting a 435 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: little handsy with Gronk. No flag came, and then White 436 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: had an interception and then a fresh ray to Gronk, 437 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: who who said that he feels like he's been getting 438 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: hit with crazy you know, penalties and not getting I 439 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: guess called from Uh. He pile drives himself helmet first 440 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: into White when White was prone like face down, uh, 441 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: and leads with his helmet and there is talk that 442 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: Gronk could be suspended next week. Now he wasn't even 443 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: kicked out of this game, but west there is um 444 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: some talk that based on the nature of the hit 445 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: and how defenseless White was that Gronk, who is not 446 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: known as a dirty player, uh, committed a play dirty 447 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: enough that it could cost him a game. I I 448 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: appreciate Gronk's prostration because he's like the shack of the NFL. 449 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: He's really hard to officiate and a lot of calls 450 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: do it go against him? Uh, And I credit him 451 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: for a real apology, not a fake one with qualifications. 452 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: But you can't do what he did, and he deserves 453 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: to be punished. And it wouldn't surprise me at all 454 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: if he's suspended. And I think it's telling that Bill 455 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: Belichick apologize to Sean McDermott and called it a BS move. 456 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: Let's let's hear what speaking of good Zillac, Let's here um, 457 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: how he as the color guy for I think it's 458 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: w b Z in Boston, how he reacted to Gronk's 459 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: cheap shop, look good enough class girls, a long ball 460 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: whine for Gronos, the color jack. His wife pushers off 461 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: and makes a catch on a water SUPs white photo 462 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: fly bills. A late fly comes in, then a second 463 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: late flag trunk pushed. Meanwhile, you've got another flag in 464 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: the middle of the field at the thirty five yard line. 465 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks was engaged with one of the bills for 466 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: holding him the whole way. Then they pushed him. Why 467 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: came down on the sideline, and then Gronkowski landed on 468 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: top of White and I think made you too for 469 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: good for him? What? Good for him? Good for him? 470 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: Good for him? Talk about someone down in some hurricane 471 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: before the game. You know, crazy here, But it's one 472 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: thing to be a homer in the box and a 473 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: lot to places, A lot of teams have homers in 474 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: the box. But it's come back to it. We can 475 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: celebrate him most of the time. But that's I mean, 476 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: paint the picture accurately. Please, Well, it's kind of well, 477 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: he's really he's like, good for him? Is I W? Yeah? Exactly. 478 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: You kind of deal with a little bit of bias here. 479 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: I think I go back and think about the last 480 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: four or five quote unquote dirty moves that happened in 481 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: football in the you know, last half decade or whatever, 482 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: and Dominicans who obviously comes to mind immediately, and then 483 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: you even thinking about Kiko Alonso's hit on Joe Flaccer 484 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: earlier this year, which could have could not have been dirty. 485 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: I think this one is right at the top. Yeah, 486 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: we'll see how the NFL reacts to it. And uh, 487 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: let's move right along. It's intercepting. Good for him, happening 488 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: back to US five touch down driving m V at 489 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: the m V Prix. I don't I don't know that's 490 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: all about. But Jerry Sandusky and just for st w 491 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: b Ale b Ale with the call, Eric Weddle the 492 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: scoring with a pick six, Joe Flacco through for to 493 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: sixty nine the two touchdowns. That's like real quarterback stats 494 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: and the Baltimore Ravens too much for the Lions. Uh 495 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: A forty four to win further solidifies Baltimore's play oppositioning 496 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: shook every week. The Ravens defense makes things happen. This 497 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: was no exception best game for Eric Weddle as a 498 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: raven had a fantastic outing. He was one foot shy 499 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: of having an interception in the back of the end 500 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: zone in the first half. He was was ruled out 501 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: of bounce he only got a foot down. Then he 502 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: forced a fumble on a safety blitz uh sacking Stafford 503 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: from behind, knocking the ball out and it was a 504 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: It was almost a scoop and score, but they recovered 505 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: it led to a score for them, and then he 506 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: has the pick six that caps it that we heard there, 507 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: and you know, just a fantastic day for who I 508 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: think is really the heart and soul the back into 509 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: their defense and somebody who they're going to have to 510 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: rely on for leadership more as we go on, because 511 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith is now out for the year with an 512 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: achilles injury, which he suffered in this game the gloss. 513 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: But this Ravens defense, you know, they've they've really improved 514 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: as we've gotten from basically the middle point of the 515 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: season onward to where every week they're harassing opposing passers 516 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: and it was no different on Sunday. Matt Stafford had 517 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: very little time to throw all day, and then to 518 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: make matters worse, they lost their right guard and the 519 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: right tackle uh t J. Lange and Rick Wagner. Neither 520 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: of them returned, so then he's just running for his 521 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: life even more, which led to him having suffering a 522 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: hand injury near the end of that game, and uh 523 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: and it ended up being a really bad bruise, but 524 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's the thing. The wheels just fell off 525 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: for the Lions really quickly, and what was a competitive 526 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: game really like three acts to this game. We had 527 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: the first half where Flacco goes all out. He he 528 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: exceeds his passing average, you know, per game in the 529 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: first half alone. He hooks up with Mike Wallace a 530 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: couple of times deep, they end up in the end zone. 531 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: And then the second half they just run out of 532 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: gas offensively for about a quarter and a half and 533 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: the Lions are right back in it, and then the 534 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: wheels fall off for them and the Ravens runaway with Yeah, 535 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I remain completely suspicious of this offense. But 536 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: you've won four or five if you're the Ravens, and 537 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: you've got after the Steelers next week, the Browns, Cults, 538 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: and Bengals. This is a team that can finish ten 539 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: and six. They they've taken control of that final six 540 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: a f C spot in the playoffs, and you know, 541 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: barring some sort of implosion, which on offense feels possible 542 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: but not on defense, there will be your playoff team. 543 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: This defense is nearing historical levels in terms of performance, 544 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: and the offense just needs to do enough. I'm talking, 545 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, early two thousands, Ravens defenses. Do we think 546 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: they're better than Pittsburgh's defense, though, that's a good question. 547 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: Baltimore's numbers on defense are inflated by facing some of 548 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 1: the weakest collection of quarterbacks we've seen. They're legit and 549 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: without Jimmy Smith, who was a legitimate Pro Bowl guy 550 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: and among the top five cornerbacks in football this year. 551 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: They do have Marlon Humphrey, who was a good first 552 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: round pick. They've got some depth there, but but Mimmy Smith, 553 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: that's a big loss. And to consider this another Latavil 554 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: Magnifico on the Lions. If there are Lions fans out 555 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: there that think this team should be a playoff team season, 556 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. There's six and six. The door is not closed, 557 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: but you know, there's like a little there's a little 558 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: sliver of light at the edge of the doorway. That's 559 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: how closed it almost is. The Lions are a seven 560 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,239 Speaker 1: and nine, six and ten team that was masquerading as 561 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: potentially in nine and seven, ten and six team, but 562 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: they've come back to earth and in games like this 563 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: it shows the same thing they were last year. All right, 564 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: let's move forward, second down and goal inside the one 565 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: and again We're gonna try and move the pile and 566 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: see if they can get jos Per Cown in the 567 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: end zone. Now the officials will come in from either side. 568 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: There was the signal. Then it is finally another Chet touchdown. 569 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: Jos Per Town comes out of the pile, spikes the football. 570 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: All right, Bob was was shooesing, uh w E p 571 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: n with the call. Yeah, that's not a joke. I 572 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: think the Jets had literally ten plays from inside the 573 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: five yard line before that go ahead score in the 574 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: fourth quarter anyway, So but count puts the Jets ahead 575 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: for good that sneak with two fifteen to play, and 576 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: the Jets overcame a slow store, a slow start and 577 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: their fourth quarter demons in a one win over the Chiefs, 578 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: who are now unbelievable six and six after their five 579 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: and oh start. And this was a game of The 580 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: Chiefs jumped out to a fourteen nothing lead in the 581 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: first five minutes of the game. Travis Kelsey two touchdowns, 582 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: looked like they had gotten healthy and are about to 583 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: romp and then it just it didn't come together for 584 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: Kansas City, and uh the Jets were in control for 585 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: much of the game after that. Give or take a 586 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: Chiefs chunk play, which happened quite often this game. That's 587 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: why if you're a Cheese fan, you're dying because for 588 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: weeks and weeks, what's it been, six seven weeks where 589 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: they went from being this explosive offense, UM just tearing 590 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: everybody up with seam plays and and going off and 591 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: then it all disappears. Today came back. They had the 592 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 1: ball I believe, seventeen minutes of game time and scored 593 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: thirty one points and Tarik Hill had two long touchdowns. 594 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: Um Kelsey, as I said, had two touchdowns. Smith threw 595 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: for over three d yards, four touchdowns, no interceptions. He 596 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: even had a seventy yard run, one of my favorite 597 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: stat lines of the season. Uh, he averaged seventy yards 598 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: of rushed. Then it's pretty good, Like that's solid, and 599 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't enough, and you know why because the defense 600 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: laid an egg in a huge spot and and I 601 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: thought the end of the game. And that's what a 602 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: lot of people, uh, we're talking about after this game, 603 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: and we'll hear about it during the week, I'm sure. Um, 604 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: after that touchdown, the Jets went for two and um 605 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: McCown got flushed out of the pocket kind of threw 606 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: one up for grabs and they the Chiefs, get called 607 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: for holding and Marcus Peter, who flag was not on him, 608 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: but Marcus Peters is so enraged that he picks up 609 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,239 Speaker 1: the penalty flag and fires it into the crowd at 610 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: the meadowlands and a bunch of young gentleman with Yamaka's 611 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: collected the flag and celebrate and take selfies. It's a 612 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: great It was a great little scene and known as 613 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: Jewish gentleman. Yeah, I assume, I don't know, not true. 614 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: I shouldn't make that as something I said I they 615 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: had now because probably Jewish man anyway, So um, he 616 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: walks off the field, but he didn't get ejected, and 617 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: it's still in the middle of the game one two 618 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: minutes of play. He shows back up a few minutes later, 619 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: running back onto the field with shoes on but no 620 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: socks and his pants up above his knee. Just I 621 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: thought it was a sloppy um performance by the Chiefs, 622 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: and that was like a fitting example, a fitting show 623 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: of what has happened to swaggering team once upon a time, 624 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: and now they're in they're in a bad spot. My 625 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: question is still first place but in a bad spot 626 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: going sockless. Is that like some silent protest here, I'm 627 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: gonna violate the league's dress code. I'm gonna remove my sock. 628 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: It probably started to undress basically, this is what I think. 629 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: That's that's what it made sense that he thought he 630 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: was ejected for throwing the flag, and then the CBS 631 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: team said, oh, Chief Stafford was seen him running up 632 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: the tunnel, probably to tell him, bro, not only are 633 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: you not ejected, We're going down the field to tie 634 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: the game and we might be going overtime. So he 635 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: comes back out. I wonder if he gets a fine 636 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: for the dress violation just stepping on the field, and 637 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna get fined for throwing the flag into the 638 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: crowd too, So costly, costly bit of lost composure there 639 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: for an Again, a person like when they undress, takes 640 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: their socks off first, uh second to less a dig 641 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: in on the socks pretty quick. Socks first before jeans 642 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: or shirt or anything. Probably pants first, well, shoes pants. 643 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes socks are like the last thing, thank you. Sometimes 644 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: you want to leave their socks on, sometimes you keep 645 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: sometimes check off. Anyway, so the chiefs offense comes back 646 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: to life. The defense falters on the Jet side again, 647 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: another really good performance in Josh McCown. Who's Who's the team? 648 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: M v p uh it took a while. Leap piece 649 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: is absolutely tweet worthy year old lee. It was a 650 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: two thousand four teen making the leap candidates something like that. Yeah, 651 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: he really another excellent game. He counted for three touchdowns, 652 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: he threw for over three hundred yards. And the Jets 653 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: faint playoff hopes. But they're not gonna take the playoffs. 654 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: But every week they've been entertaining. So to that, I said, 655 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: even though they're not going to get a high draft pick, 656 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: I've had fun watching him this year. And one last 657 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: note before I throw it to the old man, Darrell 658 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: Rivas uh the old Revenge Bowl for Darrell. He missed 659 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: a couple of tackles in the first half, was given 660 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: up a huge cushion to receivers, and at some point 661 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: I guess and Reid saw, I said I've seen enough. 662 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: He was benched for the second half. So the Jets 663 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: may have paid Darrell Rievas over five million dollars to 664 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: play against him today, but they might have also ended 665 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: his career. Let's see if Reeves gets back on the 666 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: If he's even on this roster by the end of 667 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: the year, well that's what I mean. I he I 668 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: don't think he could play anymore. He looked exactly the 669 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: same guy, even though he went vegan mark and lost weight. Well, 670 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't describe it to that. He wasn't vegan last year. 671 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: What were the just connecting dots? He went wildly can 672 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: and he got benched today. That's all. That's all I know. Anyway. 673 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: Usually when my dad's on the show, he's he's upset 674 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: about the Jets, but let's hear him when something good 675 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: happens for Gang Green. Now his name is Keith, He's 676 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: stands He'll doubt about it. He's a big Jets fan. 677 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: Well does he go to saying game to say? Well, 678 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: does he goes game to say? They went to the 679 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: Jet And a big reason was that rung on in 680 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter barely, but they didn't make the penalties. 681 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 1: Mcgawans played great offense, played great wolder a eight yards. 682 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: On the negative side, that defense reminded methicually of this secondary. 683 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: It was like playing touch football on the street. Yeah, 684 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: you know, getting it in the huddle and saying I'll 685 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: go be you know, And that's what was happening in 686 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: time after time. They win, but they were lucky to 687 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: get over their life. They were the Jets secondary was 688 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: overmatched by Tyreek hill Um, but somehow they survived and 689 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: the Chiefs fall into a first place tie with who. Well, 690 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about him right now. Rivers looking to 691 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 1: the middle throws Keenan Allen touchdown, Chargers knock out, not Money? Sorry, 692 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: can I hear that again? Rivers looking to the middle 693 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: throws Keenan Allen touchdown, Chargers knock out. Let's let's put 694 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: that in the running for the top ten calls of 695 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: the year. I do wonder if anybody know what that means. 696 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: By the way, knock on wood, like, you know, like 697 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: you're saying something and I don't want to jinx it, 698 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: so I knock on wood. So we just don't have 699 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: the context clues necessary to put it together. I thought 700 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: there was maybe somebody named Wood on the Brown's defense 701 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: used to last week too, though. I think it's maybe 702 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: a catchphrase. Yeah, it's a catch phrase. Let's yeah, let's 703 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: let's reach out to money pride at Lee and see 704 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: if we can get it will he even respond to us? Yeah? Anyway, 705 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: the Chargers uh um got three forty four yards and 706 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: a touchdown from Philip Bridge Rivers, and their defense took 707 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: advantage of uh more Deshaun Kaiser mistakes. Is. The Chargers 708 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: move into a tie for first place in the a 709 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: f C West with a nineteen to ten victory over Yes, 710 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: the still winless Cleveland Browns. Mark given l a surge 711 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: and Casey's swoon, would it be a surprise to you 712 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: if the Bolts don't win the a f C West 713 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to another team in a few 714 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: minutes that's also tied for first place, but the Charges, 715 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: would it surprised you if they don't come out of 716 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: this with the crown? Of course, they were my Super 717 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: Bowl pick. You know, I knew they got out to 718 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: a tough start, but I saw this, you know, coming 719 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: down the stretch, the entire way, so I'm not surprised 720 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: at all. They do look like of the contending teams, 721 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: these three six and six teams in the West, the 722 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: one that you'd want to not deal with if you 723 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: were an opposing playoff team. That they've got enough. They're 724 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: imperfect in many ways, yet they've got a lot of 725 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: elements to them that make them a real threat. It 726 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: starts with their pass rush, but they piled up four 727 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty nine yards on offense, and they had 728 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: scoring drives against Cleveland, who kind of kept this Cleveland's defense. 729 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: It's maybe it's very Greg Williams type of thing, where 730 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: you feel like they are keeping you in a game 731 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 1: and they're playing a little bit above their heads. They've 732 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: got a couple of good young players, but they're also 733 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: giving up four hundred and fifty yards and scoring drives 734 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: A twelve, eleven, ten, ten and seven place, So they're 735 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: not and you know, we don't even need to deal 736 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: with Cleveland's offense at this point. But when you have 737 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen playing the way that he has over the 738 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: last three weeks, this guy has been on fire. Four 739 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty six yards, thirty three catches and four 740 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: touchdowns over the past three games. True, very average. The 741 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: rest of it shines, but I really look at I 742 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: look at them as saying that they've overcome a lot 743 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: of nonsense this season. They I don't know what their 744 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: fate will be, but I would take the Chargers over 745 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 1: the Chiefs in a minute, right now, in a minute. 746 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm kind of sorry that Greg's not here to throw 747 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: in his math about crappy teams like the Raiders and 748 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: Dolphins still being in the mix. And the Chargers are 749 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: the third best team in the a f C, right 750 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: behind the Steelers and Patriots. I don't care about their 751 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: missed field goals early in the season. Right now, they're 752 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: the third best team in the a f C. And 753 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about like, Okay, the Raiders 754 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: still have a chance or the Chiefs have the same record. 755 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: It would be a shock if the Chargers don't win 756 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: this division. You make shock Chargers. Nice, nice, But I'll 757 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: throw one thing out there. Everything you're saying makes sense, 758 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: West and Mark many good points by you as well, 759 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: but not everything made sense that I that I said 760 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: that Charger is gonna Charger too. That's the one thing. 761 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: I don't think they're that team anymore. They've been that 762 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: team for sixty years. Doesn't stay with you forever, though. 763 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: But by the way, the Studs are gonna chief and 764 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: the Raiders are gonna Raider, and they play both those 765 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: teams down the stretch. They also have the Jets and 766 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: the Redskins. I just think that the Chargers, to me, 767 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: are much more going on than anyone else in that division. 768 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, the more confident we are about them, 769 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: I feel karmically more danger that they are in I 770 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: hear you. I just want to protect them because I 771 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: think they would be a fun entry in an ANFC 772 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: playoff field that certainly could use the juice. I think 773 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: it's dangerous to play the what if game because you 774 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: know you can do that with almost any team, and 775 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: that's how you, you know, get yourself through the off 776 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: season after your team finishes seven and nine and you know, 777 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: we were so close if only a couple of games 778 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: went our way. But I think you can actually play 779 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: that game with this Chargers team to validate where they 780 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: are because record wise, yeah, they're six and six and 781 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: they're in a week division now record wise, but realistically 782 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: they should be more like eight and four or even 783 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: nine and three. Yeah. One, I shouldn't mention Josh Gordon 784 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: uh four catches eighty five yards. You know, if he 785 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: had a quarterback that wasn't hysterically overthrowing wide receivers all 786 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: all game, he could have easily had a hundred and 787 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: fifty yards in this game. I mean, he looked like 788 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: a guy that just stepped out of a time machine 789 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: from and he looked fine. He looked great. That's that's 790 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: a good sign. I heard a lot of skepticism about 791 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: how he'd be playing, and you're you're exactly right. I mean, 792 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: it looked like he pretty much didn't miss a beat 793 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: until late in the game when he ran like a 794 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: thirty yard route or whatever. And then they I had 795 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: to go no huddle and you ended up jogging back 796 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: off the field because he's probably out of shape, which 797 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta play yourself into game shape. And 798 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: otherwise he looked great. Shook, You've got four chances left 799 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: to win a game. See right now, I'm sitting in 800 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: Greg's seat, so me and Mark are very far away 801 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: from each other. The bond remains strong in this in 802 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: this um, this this slog that we go through, this 803 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: this march, answer the question toward history, where's your where's 804 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 1: your p level? If you want to sit in Greg' spot, 805 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you a question. All right, you underpants 806 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: yet the hands and uh me a gym underpants? So 807 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 1: the nice and snug an you win your gym pants 808 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: and the gym pants also pretty snug, and you win 809 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: one of those big belts, blue ones that the strong 810 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: men at the gym ware, and it won't be easy 811 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: to to to get to the bathroom and then take 812 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: down your pants. So you have a tough spot. Where 813 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: where is pie scale? Are you at ten? Which would 814 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: be oh my god, I'll never get this workout belt 815 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: for strong men off? My pants are gonna be soaked 816 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: in front of the gym in the world? Or are 817 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: you one? My pants are no danger? Or unders three? 818 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: The Browns have in their final four games, have two 819 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: semi decent chances against the NFC North in the Green 820 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 1: Bay Packers and the Chicago Bears. With a Brat Hundley 821 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: on the schedule. That's good, the ladder is coming in Chicago. 822 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: But the Browns are also from the Midwest and could 823 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: thrive in a potential snow game. They're a flip side 824 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: here is that of the shook and I when we 825 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: were happiest today, when we were celebrating, was when the 826 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: Niners one. Because like Chris, you don't want it. You 827 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 1: don't want a meaningless victory that somehow removes you from 828 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,959 Speaker 1: the number one draft pick. At this stage, I want 829 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: you I want you guys to get the first pick again. Um, 830 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: as long as that happens, I want to win. Don't 831 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: don't lose all sixteen. I'm just saying you guys, don't 832 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: think it's I mean, I'm not trying to think of 833 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 1: that Sunday Mark, thank you coming up to the studio 834 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: week seventeen. If the Browns go on sixteen, just won't 835 00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: be fun to talk about. Just get a win, Get 836 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,720 Speaker 1: a win, get the number one pick if it comes. 837 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: If you have to go, oh in sixteen yet list point, 838 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: you could say it couldn't crash anymore darker than it 839 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: has at this point. I mean it has been since 840 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon last played. Their record is insane. It is 841 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: historically unmatched in the wrong way. That's that's good stuff. 842 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,720 Speaker 1: All right. Let's uh check in on the final first 843 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: place right West writers going to an eye Alla Walla 844 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: ahead of Marshawn Lynch first and Janet the midfield off 845 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: the right side. Big hold, let's just go dirty trotty 846 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: ten five base mode touchdown riders fifty one yard. Let's 847 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 1: put that on the list from Greg Papa because not 848 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: only is a nice run by beast Mode uh at 849 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: just a classic call. Greg Papa is one of the 850 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: best of the business. Marsh On Lynch fifty one yard 851 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: touchdown run uh in the first quarter, that was and 852 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: they had his first one yard rushing game since coming 853 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: out of retirement. And the Raiders win over Geno Smith 854 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: and the New York Giants. Uh. The Raiders who have 855 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: played poorly for so much of the season are yes, 856 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: suddenly in a three way tie for first place in 857 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: the a f C West. Go freaking figure and um, 858 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: think about it. I mean, no one is gonna throw 859 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: no lollipop pops will be handed out for beating the Giants, 860 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: especially at this juncture with just the circus that's going 861 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: on at the meadow Lands. But they did win this 862 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 1: game without Michael Crabtree suspended or Marii Cooper who was hurt. Uh. 863 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: And they now have a modest two game winning streak. 864 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: They are in the mix. And Yes, as bad as 865 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: they've been this season, um, they are essentially in a 866 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: similar spot there where last year when they were surgingy 867 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: because they're going back and forth with the Chiefs at 868 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: a high level. Here they are again a chance to 869 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: win the division. So let's see if they ever wake 870 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: up and wake up for the slumber. But West, I 871 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: think you, uh, you've hinted often in this show alone 872 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,240 Speaker 1: that you just don't see it ever happening. The Raiders 873 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: are a bad team. I don't care what their record is. 874 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: They show every week that they're a bad team, and 875 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: they struggled to get past the Giants, who are a 876 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: horrendous team. No, I'm not convinced the Raiders are anywhere 877 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: close to making the playoffs. This game. I mean, you know, 878 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot to say about Geno Smith, but closing 879 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: out the first half, he had two lost fumbles, and 880 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: he he did some things I think that we're positive today. 881 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean he's not. He wasn't an outright disaster. That's 882 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: just not the case. But the turnovers, this is this, 883 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: this is the d n A that we've seen with 884 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: him in the past. And like they they had the 885 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: ball I think it was at the you know, the 886 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: Raiders inside the ten yard line, like five six yard 887 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 1: lard line and lost the fumble and the game is 888 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: decided by seven points. That changed everything in this game. Well, 889 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: that's who he is and that's why and I can't 890 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: debate it with Greg, but why I've always been puzzled 891 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 1: why Greg has been on the Gino coaster and and 892 00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: thought that this is the guy who could salvage his career. 893 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: Is he's always been a turnover prone quarterback who's kind 894 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: of a knucklehead. Like even after today's game, he's like 895 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 1: bringing up some some beef with Rex Ryan, Uh with 896 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 1: the press, It's just like, what are you what are 897 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: you doing? Bro? Like, who is advising you on how 898 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,959 Speaker 1: to go about uh a professional sports career? Because every 899 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: step of the way, it's just off. And yeah, so 900 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, you can be a knuckle headed many different positions, 901 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,959 Speaker 1: but you can't be a knuckle headed quarterback. No, And 902 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,720 Speaker 1: you wonder what happens like Ben McAdoo. A report today 903 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: rap sheet had it, we had it's been floating around 904 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: that McAdoo could be fired um as soon as tomorrow, 905 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,479 Speaker 1: and by the time people are listening to this would 906 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,280 Speaker 1: not shock me, And I guess I'm wondering. I'm curious 907 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: the Giants, we've been over this. They titanically botched the 908 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: situation in terms of how they handled such an important 909 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: player in the franchise history. I wonder if they fire McAdoo, 910 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: would they ever go back to ELI for the rest 911 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: of the season, which would be weird, but it happened, right, 912 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 1: It depends do they care about morale outside of the building, 913 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: because internally, if you fire your coach, that's already at 914 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: an at a low point and you're gonna change that 915 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: once the office that helped morale. I don't think he's 916 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: a very popular guy. Well no, I'm talking about, you know, 917 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: bringing ELI back. If they were to fire macadoo, that 918 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: that would change the fan moral outside the building. But 919 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: the thing is with this and it would help repair 920 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: the relationship potentially, and I think that's a big part 921 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: of this. I think that's why McAdoo could go is 922 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: the Giants turned scramble mode to try to an owners share. 923 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,919 Speaker 1: This right an ownership essentially by doing that, could you're 924 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 1: you're basically just blaming it all on maculd do. But 925 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,240 Speaker 1: that's the thing is this decision sounded like a group decision. 926 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: I thought it was too. Wasn't the prone office want 927 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: to see these young kids? Or do you know Smith 928 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: and Davis Webb Right, it's it's a decision where a 929 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: lot of people were jumping away from any accountability, and 930 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: they could they could bubble up a big scapegoat and 931 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 1: Macadoo and way, that was the guy who did the 932 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: way it's been painted and maybe it is scapegoating. Is 933 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: that Macadoo kind of ran with the idea and it 934 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: wasn't flagged in time and it was just like a 935 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: huge miscommu occation at a grizzly level. For I just 936 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 1: don't I don't think that's possible, because there's no way 937 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 1: of Macadoo, who already was in hot water, they were 938 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 1: gonna allow him to end the streak, which if anything, 939 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: we we don't have to go back whatever. But yeah, yeah, um, 940 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: here's what McAdoo had to do when asked about his 941 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: tenuous grip on a job. I'm on coaches team as 942 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: long as uh my key card works all right? Cool? 943 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: And Marshawn Lynch one last note, Um he you know 944 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,879 Speaker 1: he doesn't like talking to the media. He got back 945 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: to his locker and had a notice for a he 946 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,399 Speaker 1: had to provide a urine sample, so he ducked out 947 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: of the interview and uh told reporters he had to 948 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 1: give his quote. Ding Ding sauce ding Ding sauce. That 949 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: is a new term. Let's move on shotgun for Bortles 950 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: four and after running back like drops the crawl look 951 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: now looks like you may throw it into the back 952 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 1: of the end on the balls from the touchdown markis 953 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,799 Speaker 1: Lee portal to Lee from the four and Jacksonville right first. 954 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: Frank Frangie w j x L with the call. Blake 955 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: Bortles two touchdown passes, Leonard Fournett found the end zone. 956 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: It's been a while since that happened in the Jaguars 957 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 1: beat up on the Colts thirty to ten West. This 958 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: was another one of those games where Blake Bortles makes 959 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: a few throws and as you wonder if the Jacks 960 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: could do something like this in January. No lollipops for 961 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Was it possible entering this game against an undermanned, 962 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,720 Speaker 1: talent deficient Colts defense for Blake Bortles to win converts? 963 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: No matter what he did in this game, the Jaguars 964 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: are going to the playoffs. Nothing he does against the 965 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 1: Colts matters. What manners is what he does against playoff 966 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: caliber teams. And Marquise Lee had a really good game today. 967 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: To me, like a career best kind of game. Bortles 968 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: had a pretty good game, uh for him, an excellent game. 969 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: But I just don't think you have takeaways against the Colts. Yeah, 970 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: It's like, had they not taken care of business against 971 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: the Colts, we'd be going utterly nuts right now, right well, 972 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: we'd be beating up on Blake Bortles because that would 973 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 1: mean he probably threw two or three interceptions. He did 974 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: his job and and but I guess my point is 975 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: is that these are the type of games you kind 976 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: of need to see to talk yourself into the Jaguars 977 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 1: being an actual team in January. And he's had a 978 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 1: few of those. I think the games you need to 979 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 1: see her against good team. Yeah, and he's coming off 980 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 1: a game where he turned his head coach into a 981 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: basket case with the game on the line. That's that's 982 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: what Blake Bortles is. Yeah, he's not hundred nineteen point 983 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: eight passer rating. He's not he's not three nine yards 984 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 1: to touchdowns. That's not that's not Blake Bortles. Blake Portles 985 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,399 Speaker 1: is half of that. And then hoping that the rest 986 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: of the team can. Yeah. And I think though, like 987 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: if you if you find a competent quarterback in the 988 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 1: off season. You're looking at a team with very few weaknesses, 989 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: and so I don't need them to arrive entirely this year. 990 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen in January. None 991 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 1: of us do. But this was a huge step. It 992 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 1: continues to be a stepping stone year of the the 993 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: highest order for Jacks until a lot of progress has 994 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 1: been made. They are seven and oh when they hold 995 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: teams to ten points, are fewer, which means they are 996 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 1: one and four when the other team scores more than 997 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: ten points which points to your problem on offense. The 998 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 1: defense is legit and Jalen Ramsey had a red zone 999 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: interception today. Class Campbell set the franchise record for saxon 1000 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,399 Speaker 1: the season with a month ago. Yeah, I'm not all 1001 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 1: looking forward to the end of this season at all, 1002 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: but I am super excited for the nonsensical prognostication that 1003 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 1: will surround the Jaguars quarterback position. In those who are available, 1004 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: that will be wild. Uh. One last note that Jack 1005 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: swept the home and home uh with the cult so 1006 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 1: the first time since the a f C South was 1007 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: founded in two thousand two and its current incarnation. Let's 1008 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 1: move on the monster. Henry is back there. Play fake 1009 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: Mariota floats down the middle. Look at the five Titans. 1010 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,320 Speaker 1: You know who that is. Mike Keith w g f 1011 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 1: X with the call. Marcus Mariota through for one touchdown, 1012 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,280 Speaker 1: rush for another, and the Titans overcame another slow start 1013 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: to beat the texanst Tennessee has now won six of 1014 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 1: its last seven UH and remain the top the af 1015 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: C South shook the Titoons. They never blow you away, 1016 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: but credit were credits? Do there? Stacking wins? Uh, they're 1017 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 1: stacking wins, but this one was so ugly they became. 1018 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 1: They took the torch from the Panthers, who had a 1019 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, competitive game that that you know, put them 1020 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,320 Speaker 1: a little bit higher up. They took the torch and 1021 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: they are now the least convincing competitive team in professional 1022 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: football in my opinion. Right now they are eight gratulations. Guys. 1023 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 1: They they own the Titoon's nickname, and today was perhaps 1024 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: the most ty tooony of their performances. The first half 1025 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,800 Speaker 1: they were down tend to nothing and somehow found a 1026 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: way to erase that deficit right before halftime, which really 1027 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: speaks to how bad the Texans are with Tom Savage 1028 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 1: under center, but even throughout most of this game, they 1029 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: could never separate themselves. Yeah, they won two to thirt team, 1030 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 1: but that last touchdown came on a run that all 1031 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: they needed was the first down and there was no 1032 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: one there to tackle Derrick Henry, which is where the 1033 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: majority of his rushing yards came today, which is on 1034 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: one play for seventy five yards as a whole. For 1035 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 1: a team that I know can do certain things, I 1036 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 1: know they can run the ball well if they block well, 1037 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: and I know Marcus Mariotta is an average to above 1038 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: average quarterback and passer. They don't do that consistently enough 1039 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 1: for me to be a believer. But they won today, 1040 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 1: so good for them. I'm not even sure if they 1041 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: can consistently run the ball even if they block well, 1042 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,359 Speaker 1: because they start the wrong guy ye first of all, yea, 1043 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 1: and they don't do it consistently. Yeah. Their wins are 1044 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: against the Cults, that the six and seven run Cults, Brown's, Ravens, Bengals, 1045 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: and again the Cults. Then they played the Steelers and 1046 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: got waxed fort seen Titan fans. Titans fans are annoyed 1047 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: with this show, I think because we continue to kind 1048 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: of pound on them no matter what they do. We're 1049 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: just asking we want to believe in them if they're real. 1050 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 1: Last year's Titans team had more character and intrigued than 1051 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,440 Speaker 1: this year's team despite the record there and their schedule 1052 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,720 Speaker 1: remains soft. They got at Cardinals next week, home against 1053 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: at forty Niners the week after, and then it gets rough. 1054 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: They closed verse home to the Rams, home against the Jaguars. 1055 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 1: So but they they seem like another team that seems 1056 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: in good position to win nine or ten games, which 1057 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 1: should get them into the dance. Let's move on. Robbie 1058 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,319 Speaker 1: gold Hey straight on four yard field goal. They snap 1059 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: the ball, Robbie golds check is up and it is good. 1060 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: With four seconds to play in the game, the forty 1061 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: Niners have the league to fourteen. Ted Robinson k s 1062 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,839 Speaker 1: a n with the call uh. Jimmy Garoppolo's forty niners 1063 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 1: debut was a success. The former's former Patriots back up 1064 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,479 Speaker 1: through for two nine three yards and this first start 1065 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 1: for the Niners and Robbie gold as you heard, sin 1066 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: San Francisco home with a fifteen fourteen win over the 1067 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: Bears mark the forty Niners mark by the way Marcus 1068 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 1: marking the funky bud. Oh. Yeah, when you can lock 1069 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: up a one win team that gets its second win 1070 00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: with the locke you just snailed, you go with it, 1071 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: kind of like how they say the clock is right 1072 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 1: two times a day. Like if you do enough of 1073 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 1: these like wild locks, you're gonna get one eventually. I 1074 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: tied Gregg in the standings after well it's after his 1075 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,720 Speaker 1: hideous Redskins attempt. So which squad is rebuilding? Which squads 1076 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: are building between you and Gregg? Yeah? Greg's throughout this 1077 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 1: we're tanking business. Uh in games of you know, I 1078 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 1: don't know what to call it wagering. Greg does never 1079 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 1: tried to tank. Greg always must treat compulsively, must win 1080 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 1: or else. By the way, Lenz, if we're bringing up locks, 1081 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,320 Speaker 1: another one for you, Yeah, I did up. Oh that 1082 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 1: would say it's earlier before our Sky Sports hit sounds 1083 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: from roundly nine four. I'm cruising towards that division title. Yeah, 1084 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 1: and before our our Sky Sports Sports hit. In the UK, 1085 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,840 Speaker 1: Dan floated this idea that we should have a trophy 1086 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: for the winner of the law contest, but it should 1087 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 1: start this year. Wait, wait, we got Dan in a 1088 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 1: major league here, yeah, of course, So let's start rolling 1089 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 1: out the trophy. I say, so, it's trophy next year. 1090 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 1: That's a fine thing to start next year. What is 1091 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: this trophy in the shape of is it going to 1092 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,360 Speaker 1: be like in your likeness? Should be a master lock? No, 1093 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 1: it would be a lock. It should be something lock 1094 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 1: and then maybe nameplates for each winner, and whoever wins 1095 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 1: the trophy gets to have it on their desk for 1096 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,240 Speaker 1: the season. Sure, starting next And and your theory, mark 1097 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: Um is really mean spirited and it hurts my feelings 1098 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 1: not you would want to start next year when I 1099 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 1: win next year's lock competition. I think that, like it's 1100 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 1: a great idea, and like we don't you know, we're 1101 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: not gonna grandfather it into this season. We'll start fresh 1102 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,720 Speaker 1: with it as a concept for next season. The lindsay, 1103 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 1: let's huddle privately. No, this is what we do behind 1104 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 1: the scenes makes things happen for the show, for or 1105 00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: for himself. Um, the a if I win, I deserve 1106 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 1: the trophy. Why are you trying to take that from it? 1107 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 1: I win next year and we can talk anyways. Correct anyway, 1108 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 1: let's move on. Yeah, I can't wait for that trophy. 1109 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,720 Speaker 1: It's coming this year, Mark Um the Forts hope Jimmy 1110 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 1: G's their long term answer to QB today. Wow, let 1111 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 1: me tell you something. You're a two intend team and 1112 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 1: your fan base should be feeling like they are on 1113 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 1: fire right now. You have, somehow in the middle of 1114 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,440 Speaker 1: this season, found your franchise quarterback, assuming that there's no 1115 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 1: issues locking him up with a long term contract, even 1116 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,839 Speaker 1: whatever he wants, and you make it happen. I don't 1117 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 1: know what you want to point to in this game? 1118 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 1: Is it from the very beginning, the pristine passes, the 1119 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 1: aggressive throws a Niner's offense completely lost at Sea had 1120 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,360 Speaker 1: something like thirteen or fourteen plays of ten plus yards, 1121 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 1: most all of them through the air. He opens up 1122 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 1: the ground game, he sees the entire field. Maybe it's 1123 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 1: the end of the game when he authors a fourteen 1124 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 1: play eighties six yard drive that takes five plus minutes 1125 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 1: off the clock and completely takes the Bears chances of 1126 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 1: a any sort of coming back off of that to 1127 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 1: zero because they click the clock right down to nothing 1128 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,359 Speaker 1: and kicked the game winning field goal. Jimmy G has 1129 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,320 Speaker 1: not been on this team for long. This is a 1130 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 1: tough offense to master, and he came in today and 1131 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 1: it made one of the most impressive debuts you could imagine. 1132 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: It is an incredibly uplifting scenario for Niners fans, who, yeah, 1133 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: I get it, they've had a lot of success, but 1134 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 1: the past couple of years post Jim Harbaugh, where the 1135 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 1: down they really wondered what would come around. This is 1136 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 1: the kind of thing that could It can completely change 1137 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan his career. There John Lynch's GM, because if 1138 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 1: they struck out on some draft eligible quarterback and went 1139 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 1: two more seasons in the ABYSS, all of that is 1140 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 1: washed away. You have found someone, barring a total disaster, 1141 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 1: and when they're three and thirteen or four and twelve, 1142 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 1: whatever they finished this year, they can use that that trip, 1143 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,439 Speaker 1: that chip to maybe trade down and human draft picks 1144 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 1: and start building that roster because you've solved most likely 1145 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 1: the most important position on the field to I didn't 1146 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 1: see this game, but two things that really impressed me. 1147 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 1: Mark He's good. When after the game said just look 1148 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 1: at him. He's got it all together. He's got it 1149 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,919 Speaker 1: all together. He came in short time, helped us flip 1150 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 1: this thing around. Some people are just winners, and he's 1151 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 1: a winner. That's a telling statement from a wide receiver. 1152 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 1: And then to hear that the Patriots locker room was 1153 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 1: celebrating Jimmy V's victory and his performance shows you how 1154 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: well liked he was in New England and what a 1155 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 1: bright future he is. Like I said, Jimmy V, like 1156 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 1: jim Valvano. Let's watch that Villanova game again. I love 1157 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 1: Jimmy UM. Before we move on, three con had a 1158 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: incredible punt return for a touchdown. Somebody on Twitter said, hey, 1159 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 1: cut that the Bears call of that. So let's let's 1160 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 1: listen in on Cohen's touchdown, which was quite a thing 1161 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: to behold. Catches cleanly. Now is gonna want to run? 1162 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: Why to give up ten fifteen yards? He's circling back 1163 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: up the scene left and there he goes is done baby, 1164 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 1: ten touchdown Bears. He finally got one, all right. He 1165 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 1: really salvaged that cold because it started out a little long. 1166 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 1: Jeff Johnny act what they called w B B m 1167 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 1: uh tree cone is the new Darren Sprawls. Let's move 1168 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 1: on at the first and ten handoff bounces off the first, 1169 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: it swerves here left fifty time, five hops into the 1170 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 1: touchdown and the Packers taking twenty six to twenty, getting 1171 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 1: over time over Tampa Bay. The playoff hopes alive, and 1172 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 1: a lambl week for Aaron Jones. Wayne Larvey w TMG 1173 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 1: with the call. Yes, Aaron Jones had a twenty yard 1174 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 1: touchdown run in overtime. It was his only carry the game, 1175 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 1: and the Packers escaped with a twenty win over the 1176 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 1: mistake prone Buccaneers. Uh. It does keep Green Bay slim 1177 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 1: playoff hopes alive with Aaron Rodgers return potentially two weeks away. 1178 00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 1: So a little bit of intrigue here in the NFC 1179 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 1: with the idea that Rogers could be around. They just 1180 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 1: they gotta keep winning though, to stay in the mix. 1181 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 1: I believe, what are they six and six? Now there 1182 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 1: are six and six? They had the Browns next week 1183 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: that lost last week to the Steelers looms as a 1184 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 1: crushing defeat. Yeah, they have to win out uh and 1185 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 1: then maybe get help. But with Aaron Rodgers, if they 1186 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 1: can even get to eight and six with Aaron Rodgers, 1187 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 1: let's let's have some fun. That sounds exciting and you 1188 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 1: just you just hope Rodgers is healthy enough um to 1189 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,720 Speaker 1: make it through whatever games he plays. Anyway, the player 1190 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: that Rodgers will eventually mercifully replace. Uh. Of course is 1191 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Brett Hunley who he threw for eighty four yards today. 1192 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 1: How many quarterbacks essentially quarters as so, say, how many 1193 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the history of the NFL would you say 1194 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: have gone deep into an overtime game or into an 1195 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 1: overtime affair with eighty four yards passing? That's gotta be 1196 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 1: and it was. It wasn't like nineteen seven football either. 1197 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: They were throwing the ball. He had twenty two attempts. 1198 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 1: It just it just doesn't have the accuracy and and 1199 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 1: it just wasn't happening. It's their fewest passing yards in 1200 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 1: a win since Week Night of nineteen four when Farve 1201 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 1: dropped the six of fifteen for eighty two yards in 1202 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 1: a And this is weird, thirty three to six win. 1203 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: That's that's very strange. UM one. One more point about 1204 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 1: this game, because we gotta keep moving. Uh. Jamis Winston 1205 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 1: is not having a good year and he is up 1206 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 1: to um fifty career turnovers and forty one games. And 1207 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 1: we saw it again today. He made some plays, kept 1208 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: him in the game, showed the flash why he uh 1209 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 1: should be considered still in only twenty three years old, 1210 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 1: the future kind of franchise presence. But Eddie Haskell also struggled. 1211 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 1: He he keeps on he this has been a thing 1212 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,480 Speaker 1: that if you're a Bucks fan, you know this well, 1213 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 1: that when he's being wrapped up and he's being pulled 1214 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 1: to the ground or it looks like a play is 1215 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 1: dead and he's going down, he'll just fling the ball 1216 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 1: or try to like, you know, he'll try to salvage 1217 01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 1: the play that's already dead and it leads to a 1218 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 1: killer turn over. That happened again and often, and he 1219 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 1: had he had some issues with the center um quarterback 1220 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 1: exchange with a inexperienced player snapping him the ball. So 1221 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,440 Speaker 1: Winston another up and down game. It's been a very 1222 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 1: frustrating season for him. And I think the Bucks, who 1223 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,320 Speaker 1: were in last place in the NFC South, cannot get 1224 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 1: to January one quick enough. This was the most important 1225 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 1: result of the day to me, anything that increases the 1226 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 1: chances of seeing Aaron Rodgers and making the Packers the 1227 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 1: most interesting team to watch instead of one of the 1228 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 1: worst teams to watch and uh West, good point, but wrong, 1229 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 1: not the most important thing because we haven't talked about 1230 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 1: the Broncos and Dolphins. Yet first and ten, Trevor Simeon 1231 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,160 Speaker 1: out of the shotgun back to throw all fire or 1232 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 1: something out what was the pick BULLI alright, alright, that 1233 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 1: guy at the end. Good for him. They still got 1234 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 1: the joy. Jimmy Cephalo w q A M. What the call? 1235 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 1: Xavian Howard's thirty yard pick six um was the really 1236 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 1: uh exclamation point on a really nice defensive effort by 1237 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. They snap a five game losing streak by 1238 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 1: beating up on the horrendous Denver Broncos a thirty five 1239 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,439 Speaker 1: to nine final. The Broncos, who once upon a time 1240 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 1: we're seeing as an a f C favorite, have lost 1241 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 1: eight in a row and uh shook the season as 1242 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 1: officially who already was. But this is a dumpster fire 1243 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 1: for Denver, and much of that goes back to the 1244 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 1: quarterback position. Trevor Simeon no help today. They have completely 1245 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 1: fallen off a cliff and we've we've gone through all 1246 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:37,960 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in this team already, and then we got 1247 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,440 Speaker 1: back to Trevor Simeon and everyone was like, well, now 1248 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 1: Denver is gonna actually play their their best quarterback, which 1249 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,000 Speaker 1: I agreed with to a point, and then he goes 1250 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 1: and puts out today I don't I don't know, wasn't 1251 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 1: anybody specific the general fan uh. And then today he 1252 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 1: goes out and does a nineteen of forty one for 1253 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 1: two yard performance with three interceptions. He also dropped a 1254 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,439 Speaker 1: snap on his in the shadow of his own goal post, 1255 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 1: which he then had to push out of the back 1256 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 1: of the end. Should not do that, hold on too. 1257 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 1: That was there two safeties, and there was two signs. 1258 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 1: There was a safety early and there was a safety 1259 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 1: late when Isaiah McKenzie tried to return a punt and 1260 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,120 Speaker 1: ran back toward his own end zone and fumble the 1261 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 1: ball on the goal line. This is the Broncos are 1262 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 1: a disaster in every phase of the game, which is 1263 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 1: it's really just it's it's disappointing because they do still 1264 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 1: have some talent defensively. Justin Simmons had a nice interception interception. 1265 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 1: Chris Harris had a nice one too. There are signs. 1266 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,080 Speaker 1: You obviously have guys like von Miller on that team, 1267 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 1: and they have the personnel, but they're just a bad 1268 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 1: football team. Those things get lost in a season like 1269 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 1: this and they're three and nine and they could very 1270 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 1: easily wind up with three wins on the year, and 1271 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 1: you have to wonder, I know, you just spent a 1272 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,600 Speaker 1: first round pick on Paxton Lynch, who you traded up for, 1273 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: but you if you're John Elway, that you cannot go 1274 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,920 Speaker 1: into next season with this kind of situation. I wonder 1275 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 1: if they sit out there, there's a couple quarterbacks in 1276 01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 1: this draft coming up that they might have to say, 1277 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 1: Mia Culpa and Packison Lynch, we're gonna have to start. 1278 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 1: What about who would be coaching that would be quarterback? 1279 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 1: Because his vance Joseph in trouble because this season the 1280 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,240 Speaker 1: Broncos don't have these seasons, and and I think that 1281 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,080 Speaker 1: if they do end up going three and thirteen, four 1282 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,040 Speaker 1: and twelve, I wonder if Joseph is one and done. 1283 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 1: I wonder if he is a one and done candidate. 1284 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 1: From everything I've been told, he's in some pretty hot 1285 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 1: water and and there's a there's an obvious so Elway 1286 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,920 Speaker 1: would fire him with no acknowledgement that there are issues 1287 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 1: that are related to Elway with this. And that's my 1288 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 1: problem with it. Is this talent on this team. Yeah, 1289 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,680 Speaker 1: they've they've got some at some positions, but I think 1290 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 1: elways player evaluation should be questioned. This one's not on, John, 1291 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,440 Speaker 1: says John. I see no, every time we've seen Paxton 1292 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,800 Speaker 1: Lynch play, he doesn't look like he has a future. 1293 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,560 Speaker 1: And I guess you're telling me this is the game 1294 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 1: I went down with the ship on forever, Simeon. It's 1295 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,760 Speaker 1: not salvageable. But who made that pick at Paxton Lynch? 1296 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,680 Speaker 1: John Elway? And he's going to continue to skate, And 1297 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 1: I think it's about time that we turn a little 1298 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,320 Speaker 1: bit of the pressure toward him too. Let's see how 1299 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,120 Speaker 1: he does in this draft. All right, I'll give him that, 1300 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 1: but it's starting to look bad. Top five back off. 1301 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 1: If you know what's good for you, are this one's 1302 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 1: for you? And he's holding up a knuckle sandwich? What 1303 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:34,240 Speaker 1: about lay seven? John Elway seventeen Nick shook bare knuckle 1304 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,640 Speaker 1: obviously shirtless street fight in Oh wait wait? Can this 1305 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 1: take place on the field at Cleveland Municipal Stadium like this, 1306 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 1: Let's go back one more year. Let's go into the 1307 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,440 Speaker 1: end zone where he ended the drive. Yeah, to just 1308 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 1: ramp it up. I'll come flying out of the stands 1309 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 1: and and deck him right before he completes that touchdown pass. Well, well, no, no, 1310 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 1: we're not time traveling in that sense. One of the 1311 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 1: greatest athletes in history. At his peaky Shook probably has 1312 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:07,400 Speaker 1: him by thirty or forty pounds lay. It was pretty speedy. Yeah, 1313 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,720 Speaker 1: he's a tremendous Is it a race or is it 1314 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,440 Speaker 1: just an out and out brawl? I said, it's a shirtless, 1315 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 1: bare knuckle brawl. Well, you know what zone of Cleveland 1316 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,360 Speaker 1: Municipal Stadium in Well, you know what stands there now 1317 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:21,240 Speaker 1: is First Energy Stadium, So we could just do that there. Okay, 1318 01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 1: we're getting hung up on the semantics, Yes we are. 1319 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 1: I want to I want to say, all right, we'll 1320 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 1: just go to the kissing cousins on this. Who wins 1321 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,680 Speaker 1: the fight? I'm not I'm I recused myself. I'm unclear 1322 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,920 Speaker 1: because you said it's not a time traveling snarrow, but 1323 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 1: it's happening in Cleveland Stadium. Shook, I appreciate you on 1324 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 1: many levels, but I'm gonna go with the Hall of 1325 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,240 Speaker 1: Fame quarterback on this one. I would say Shook definitely 1326 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:53,000 Speaker 1: has a size advantage, muscle advantage, but pro athletes are 1327 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 1: a different phenomenon. I don't know if Shook is angry enough. 1328 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 1: You'd have to be. I need to see a little more, 1329 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, throw got too much heart. Well, you know, 1330 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 1: like in the Christmas Story when Ralphie like snaps on 1331 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 1: the bully and it all like builds up and then 1332 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 1: he explodes with rage. Imagine all the Brown's rage that 1333 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,520 Speaker 1: will be inside you when you're looking at that. All right, 1334 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna cry for me. Cry. I think l A 1335 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:19,840 Speaker 1: would take you, but I think you get some shots. 1336 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:25,679 Speaker 1: How much shook first art model that one? All right? Okay, 1337 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,680 Speaker 1: let's move on to the little Sunday Night Football Talk 1338 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:35,559 Speaker 1: Sunday Night, Tessick Wine to the far side, Jimmy Graham, 1339 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 1: Wine to the near side. Russell empty backfield, The Eagles 1340 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:43,599 Speaker 1: look like they want to rush for the Russell. Take 1341 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:47,000 Speaker 1: your time, look gravering the cop. He's got a Advogier touchdown. 1342 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,920 Speaker 1: Seahawks Radio Network with the call. Russell Wilson throw three 1343 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:57,440 Speaker 1: touchdown passes without an interception. Another brilliant performance by Seattle's 1344 01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:03,559 Speaker 1: field General Sunday and the Seattle Seahawks uh a twenty 1345 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 1: four to ten win over the Philadelphia Eagles. My goodness, 1346 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 1: who lose for just the second time all season? A 1347 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:15,040 Speaker 1: truly epic win here for Seattle. Epic you know in 1348 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,439 Speaker 1: the regular season is a little strong, but mark such 1349 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 1: a big win, uh for the Seahawks and moved to 1350 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,559 Speaker 1: eight and for solidify their their place in the playoff race, 1351 01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:27,760 Speaker 1: just when a lot of people have ruled him out 1352 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,439 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. What a big win. Yeah, 1353 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 1: I mean it would have been easy to make a 1354 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:35,400 Speaker 1: case I believe I did incorrectly on Thursday, our last show, 1355 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 1: that this would be the game where Philadelphia continues to 1356 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 1: do what it's done all season, which is who cares 1357 01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,280 Speaker 1: where the game is occurring. Go in, run rough shot, 1358 01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,760 Speaker 1: use your run game, use your defense, get everything you 1359 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,639 Speaker 1: need from Carson Wentz mall Is Seahawks, and separate entirely 1360 01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 1: from the rest of this NFC. Now, the NFC is 1361 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,360 Speaker 1: more muddled than ever, and I think it's a fantastic 1362 01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 1: effort by Seattle, the best game of the year for them, 1363 01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,120 Speaker 1: muddled in a great way. This is gonna be really 1364 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,320 Speaker 1: fun how this shakes out now. Because the Eagles still 1365 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 1: the number one seed, tendant to the Vikings, also tennant 1366 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:13,560 Speaker 1: to the Saints, now just one game back of the 1367 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 1: number one seed, they are nine in three, the Seahawks, 1368 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,840 Speaker 1: who everyone wrote off, like I said, after Richard Sherman 1369 01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 1: and Camp Chancellor disappeared, now eight and four. You don't 1370 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,240 Speaker 1: forget about the Rams at nine and three, and the 1371 01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 1: Panthers hanging around at eight and four, and the Falcons 1372 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 1: the defending conference champions now suddenly after everyone and finally 1373 01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 1: was like, all right, the Falcons are okay on the 1374 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,559 Speaker 1: outside looking in, and it might get might be hard shook, 1375 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:39,400 Speaker 1: and West had to leave us today, so it's just 1376 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,360 Speaker 1: the three of us now shook. It might be hard 1377 01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,400 Speaker 1: for the Falcons to work their way back into this 1378 01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,080 Speaker 1: because there's just so much meat up top. Yeah, you know, 1379 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:47,960 Speaker 1: for as big of a game as I thought this 1380 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:49,880 Speaker 1: would be in terms of a test for the Eagles, 1381 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,920 Speaker 1: because you know, I've been a big believer them for 1382 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,519 Speaker 1: a good majority of the season. You know, they they 1383 01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,559 Speaker 1: haven't give me a reason not to um and until tonight. 1384 01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,000 Speaker 1: You know, for as big of a test as it 1385 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,519 Speaker 1: was for them, it was also a monument whole game 1386 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,360 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks because this is gonna throw them right 1387 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,080 Speaker 1: back into the pack. Just like you said. You know, 1388 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna be sitting right there, you know, with the 1389 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,639 Speaker 1: fifth seed in the wild card and eight and four. 1390 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,040 Speaker 1: They have a game lead over the Falcons, who have 1391 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 1: been you know, coming up as of late except for 1392 01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 1: today and their loss. And we only have four games left, 1393 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,400 Speaker 1: so you're right, this could the Falcons and they have 1394 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 1: a tough stretch. It's could be ten and six and 1395 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,240 Speaker 1: miss the playoffs. That's what's happening in the NFC and 1396 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,800 Speaker 1: this game. Wilson and we we've talked about um. I 1397 01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,559 Speaker 1: had a disagreement with Greg on this podcast couple weeks 1398 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,439 Speaker 1: ago because he said that Russell Wilson, there's no way 1399 01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,360 Speaker 1: he should be in the m VP conversation. Watch this 1400 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,519 Speaker 1: game in primetime against the best team in the league 1401 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 1: and tell me Russell Wilson should not be in that 1402 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,960 Speaker 1: conversation because he is this offense and now he's leading 1403 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,160 Speaker 1: a Seattle team that is truly dangerous if they can 1404 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,200 Speaker 1: get into the playoffs, which right now they're on our track. 1405 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,160 Speaker 1: And a big play in this game, Mark and you 1406 01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 1: said it when we're watching that lateral that Wilson through, 1407 01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 1: I think it was at that point of seven point 1408 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,479 Speaker 1: aim in the fourth quarter. Uh, it looked like it 1409 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,280 Speaker 1: went forward. But the challenge flag did not come out, 1410 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,760 Speaker 1: and Doug Peterson is going to regret that tonight. Yeah, 1411 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,599 Speaker 1: I'll be asked about that because you know, and it's 1412 01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:13,840 Speaker 1: tough these days two in theory when that happens in 1413 01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,879 Speaker 1: your Seattle and the call is out there, it's suspect, 1414 01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,439 Speaker 1: but you can get the snap off quick. A lot 1415 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,400 Speaker 1: of times there's there the opposition finds ways to quickly analyze, 1416 01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 1: stop the game, time out, whether it's the refs upstairs, whatever, 1417 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,600 Speaker 1: to get that thing corrected. And this is one of 1418 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,880 Speaker 1: those cases where where Seattle got back on the field, 1419 01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,680 Speaker 1: snapped the ball quickly and that play. I don't know 1420 01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,600 Speaker 1: if we had this result if that play doesn't go 1421 01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,840 Speaker 1: the way it did because Carson wentz and the drive 1422 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,439 Speaker 1: before you know you talk about m VP. He made 1423 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,639 Speaker 1: the throw one of the throws we've seen all season 1424 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,400 Speaker 1: where you know he's getting dragged to the ground, whips 1425 01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,600 Speaker 1: it down field. You think it's just gonna go to No. 1426 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 1: One bang huge complace and Nelson ag another beautiful tear drop. 1427 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,479 Speaker 1: Don't uh. This is such a fun game because you 1428 01:12:55,600 --> 01:13:00,680 Speaker 1: have to athletic, imaginative quarterback us at the top of 1429 01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,679 Speaker 1: their game and it just goes to show the NFL 1430 01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,920 Speaker 1: could use a few more of these guys, because some 1431 01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,760 Speaker 1: of these games that have not been so great to 1432 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,240 Speaker 1: watch in prime time usually a problem is that we 1433 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,600 Speaker 1: don't have two good quarterbacks involved. In this case, we 1434 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:15,000 Speaker 1: have two quarterbacks that really are fun, exciting players. And 1435 01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,640 Speaker 1: even if the game wasn't as close as maybe you 1436 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:21,000 Speaker 1: thought it would be, Seattle took care of business here. Ultimately, Uh, 1437 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,760 Speaker 1: this was a fun game throughout each quarter. And with 1438 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,639 Speaker 1: that playing question, you know, it's kind of a hard 1439 01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,200 Speaker 1: decision to make on the fly. You talk about how 1440 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 1: they usually find a way to stop it. You know, 1441 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,559 Speaker 1: they throw the challenge flag or a coach is gonna 1442 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,040 Speaker 1: call it time out, and then think about challenging it, 1443 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,840 Speaker 1: which is always fullish, but whatever, you if you need 1444 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,160 Speaker 1: to buy some more time, or you get the bus 1445 01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,560 Speaker 1: from upstairs. And they didn't get that there. But it 1446 01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,400 Speaker 1: was kind of a miurage, you know, because you have 1447 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,320 Speaker 1: these players moving forward, and Wilson was ahead of the 1448 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,000 Speaker 1: guy he pitched it too. But you know, even we 1449 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,320 Speaker 1: us sitting here when they couldn't, we couldn't tell right 1450 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,559 Speaker 1: away that it was on the broadcast. You know, Chris 1451 01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,920 Speaker 1: Collinsworth is saying all that's definitely forward, and we're saying, 1452 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, what are you what are you talking about? 1453 01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 1: And then after they slow it down and they put 1454 01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:58,040 Speaker 1: a line on the field, they do all the other 1455 01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,559 Speaker 1: different things and you're like, oh, that was Ford. That's 1456 01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,120 Speaker 1: a hard call to make one situation, one final point 1457 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,360 Speaker 1: before we, uh we get out of here. I I 1458 01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,599 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys disagree, I'm not. I don't 1459 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,400 Speaker 1: see this loss is something now I'm worried about a 1460 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 1: little bit about the Eagles, Like Zach Ertz went out 1461 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,719 Speaker 1: of this game with a head injury. Uh, and hopefully 1462 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,240 Speaker 1: that's not a long storm may shue. But that's a 1463 01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:19,240 Speaker 1: major loss for the Eagles and for Carson Wentz. It's 1464 01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,479 Speaker 1: his trusted security blanket and a number one playmaker this year. 1465 01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,519 Speaker 1: So take him out of the mix of this game 1466 01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,040 Speaker 1: and that's a major thing that you can't overlook. And 1467 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 1: they're still in great shape to to take the one 1468 01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:31,320 Speaker 1: seat if they take care of some business. Yeah. We 1469 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,000 Speaker 1: look at teams like the Rams, the Saints in recent weeks, 1470 01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,519 Speaker 1: they've all had to overcome a loss and come back 1471 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:37,960 Speaker 1: the next week and get back on track. And I 1472 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,519 Speaker 1: think the Eagles they go play the Rams next. That's 1473 01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,040 Speaker 1: a huge l in l A two games in a row. 1474 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:45,960 Speaker 1: Then they have a third game on the road, but 1475 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 1: that's against the Giants, and then you close with the 1476 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:49,880 Speaker 1: Raiders and the Cowboys. So I think we're looking at 1477 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,880 Speaker 1: a team it's gonna go about thirteen and three. And 1478 01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,080 Speaker 1: the flip side of it, I just made the case 1479 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,479 Speaker 1: for why shook, we should not if you're an Eagle, 1480 01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,800 Speaker 1: so and don't get too upset. Flip side as this was, 1481 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 1: they were just wrecking all these lesser teams for the 1482 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 1: past month or so and then they got punched in 1483 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 1: the mouth here. So next week becomes a test for 1484 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 1: the Eagles, who were not able to play up to 1485 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:14,479 Speaker 1: the Seahawks ability or or level on Sunday night, and 1486 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 1: now they get another big test against the nine and 1487 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:17,760 Speaker 1: three Rams team that's still in the mix for the 1488 01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,680 Speaker 1: number one seed itself. Look, this is a team that 1489 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,960 Speaker 1: hasn't lost since September. And sometimes these losses at this 1490 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:24,599 Speaker 1: point in the season are the best thing that can 1491 01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,240 Speaker 1: happen to you because it brings you back to earth, 1492 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,599 Speaker 1: makes you realize A you're not invincible. B you can 1493 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,760 Speaker 1: get better, and see this season is far from over. 1494 01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 1: And these guys are gonna bring everything that they can 1495 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,160 Speaker 1: and they're gonna experience that the next four weeks. All right, 1496 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,040 Speaker 1: So there you go. That is Sunday Night Football. That 1497 01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,120 Speaker 1: is week thirteen. One more game to play on Monday, 1498 01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:46,840 Speaker 1: Mark between the Bengals these Steelers, one team with hope 1499 01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,759 Speaker 1: one fading into the distance. I don't care what anyone 1500 01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,000 Speaker 1: says about the Bengals. They are not a playoff team 1501 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:53,720 Speaker 1: in my mind as I put my computer in my 1502 01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,760 Speaker 1: bag and go home to Market Park, literally packing it 1503 01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,760 Speaker 1: and doing it as we try to get out of here. 1504 01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,080 Speaker 1: All right, next time you hear from by the way, Nick, 1505 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,000 Speaker 1: thanks for helping us out. Great job, Nick, thanks for 1506 01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,360 Speaker 1: having me on your study. And I would take Lay 1507 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,800 Speaker 1: in a street brawl, but I think I would give 1508 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,799 Speaker 1: you a literally a puncher's chance in it. Yeah yeah, yeah, 1509 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 1: that's and and and that is not an affront to you, no, no, 1510 01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,799 Speaker 1: And I understand you know what. I'll entertain the fantasy 1511 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,720 Speaker 1: and that's cool. Um, But he's a supreme athlete. So 1512 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,520 Speaker 1: all right, so they go. We'll be back on Tuesday, 1513 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,519 Speaker 1: uh with another show and Connie Fox and maybe even 1514 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,639 Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rosemthal will be back until then. 1515 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson for m v P. Let's do this. It's 1516 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 1: got the case going. You're on the trains, behind the 1517 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,920 Speaker 1: glass away. Dan will play Dan Hands, signing off for 1518 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:44,040 Speaker 1: a Quiet Storm. The mail Man Nick shook Lindsey Baulton 1519 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:44,839 Speaker 1: until Tuesday