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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back the Hour number two Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out

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Speaker 1: with us. I want to dive into a couple of

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Speaker 1: different stories here in a moment Disney. We talked about

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Speaker 1: this a little bit earlier, Buck, Disney is getting absolutely

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Speaker 1: savaged when it comes to its overall brand value. Disney

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Speaker 1: and I can't believe this is true. According to an

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Speaker 1: Axio subset of the hundred of the biggest companies out there,

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Speaker 1: is now the fifth most polarizing brand in America. How

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Speaker 1: did they get there? We'll talk about that in a minute,

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Speaker 1: but I wanted to share with you again what we

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Speaker 1: were talking about at the end of the first hour

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Speaker 1: and discussing the Trump legal peril. Buck, do you agree

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Speaker 1: with me that every Republican running for president should pledge

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Speaker 1: to pardon Donald Trump of all federal charges in the

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Speaker 1: event that they are elected president in twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I don't even I can't even think of, from

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Speaker 2: a conservative or Republican point of view, a particularly strong

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Speaker 2: counterpoint to it. I can't see a reason why you wouldn't. Now,

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Speaker 2: I think it's right on political grounds. I think it's

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Speaker 2: right on ethical grounds. So what else is there?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I guess if you were someone running

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Speaker 1: who hates Trump and believes that he should go to

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Speaker 1: prison like Liz Cheney, min I was gonna say, then

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Speaker 1: you're then you're not a republic You're a phony.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: So and for any real yeah, like the Lincoln Project

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Speaker 1: would be opposed to this, right And as a general project,

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Speaker 1: if the Lincoln Project is opposed to something, and you

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Speaker 1: have a spine and you have a you know, functional brain,

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Speaker 1: you should be opposed to whatever they're opposed to. And

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Speaker 1: it is funny, by the way, how quickly they've pivoted

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Speaker 1: from Trump is a unique threat to the Republic to oh,

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Speaker 1: if Rondosantis gets elected, it's important to recognize that he's

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Speaker 1: maybe even.

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Speaker 3: A bigger threat.

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Speaker 1: Uh but I I think and correct me if I'm wrong, Buck,

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Speaker 1: But no, republic I have not seen any Republican candidate

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Speaker 1: running who has made that pledge publicly yet, have you?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: And I mean, you know, look, Ron is not yet

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Speaker 2: a candidate, so we'll see what he says. I do

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Speaker 2: remember when there was the possibility there was a discussion

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Speaker 2: of extradition, and everyone recalls there was a little a

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Speaker 2: little bit of heat on DeSantis when the charges were announced.

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Speaker 2: He was saying, hol lo, wait, why did he miss

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Speaker 2: this opportunity? He did say that he would not in

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Speaker 2: any way have the state of Florida cooperate in that extradition. Now,

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, legally that's you know,

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Speaker 2: that's a losing battle because of existing law. But he

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Speaker 2: was basically saying, we're gonna do everything we can to

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Speaker 2: with this, which which I think was the right move

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Speaker 2: under those circumstances too. So I would not be surprised

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Speaker 2: at all if he came forward and said I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, on the right these days, understanding

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Speaker 2: who the real opposition is and trying to unite our

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Speaker 2: team on what really matters. There's going to be fighting,

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Speaker 2: there's going to be sniping about stuff. But I think

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Speaker 2: people will see that in a very positive light. And

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Speaker 2: I think from what I see. I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm just missing this right. This is all perception driven.

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Speaker 2: Whenever there's anything out of the Trump camp or even

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Speaker 2: some of the Trump some of the Trump spokespersons that's like, look,

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Speaker 2: Ron's a great governor, but we just know it has

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Speaker 2: to be it has to be Trump this go around.

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Speaker 2: The people that I know who are you know, still deciding,

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Speaker 2: they're like, you know that that starts to But whenever

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Speaker 2: they say, you know, Ron DeSantis is a George funded

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Speaker 2: sorry George George George Soros funded, you know, globalist deep

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Speaker 2: actually gonna help rond de Santis more that it hurts it.

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Speaker 1: I think Trump's strongest argument on DeSantis is, hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be president for four more years. He's doing

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Speaker 1: a good job in Florida, but he's not ready for

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Speaker 1: and then in twenty twenty eight, I might even endorse

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Speaker 2: No one wants to feel like someone's turned into a

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Speaker 2: suicide bomber during the primary, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: Like they're just going to take the whole system down

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Speaker 1: To the Hillary Did you see Hillary's tweet like when

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Speaker 1: right because Hillary is not renowned for her extreme genius

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Speaker 1: in this respect. But Hillary tweeted, I wanted to make

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Speaker 1: I think it ties in with what's happened to Disney.

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Speaker 1: Hillary tweeted, and I mean, just come on, Hillary, and

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Speaker 1: then she turned off replies buck so nobody could actually

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Speaker 1: reply to it. And I would just say this, if

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Speaker 1: tweet right. Ron de Santis, Hillary Clinton. Ron DeSantis's ultra

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Speaker 1: maga Florida isn't safe for people of color, LGBTQ people,

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Speaker 1: or even multi billion dollar corporations. And she puts it

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Speaker 1: United States. You're basically parroting lies that are the same

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Speaker 1: and I think that's a really inefficient way to attack

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we all have to be on the same page

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Speaker 2: about what's good on as a conservative or on the right.

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Speaker 2: You know, low taxes, low crime relative to what's happened

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Speaker 2: it's true, but it's true a Tennessee. It's true of Texas.

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Speaker 2: You know, we we give you. It's funny because you

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Speaker 2: low tax, pro freedom state that started to get a

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Speaker 2: I remember when I went to work for Glenn Beck

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Speaker 2: was people were like, WHOA, how you're in media? How

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Speaker 2: do you do that? Glenn sees many steps ahead, and

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Speaker 2: this is a dynamic that I'm going to be really

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Speaker 2: interesting to see how it plays out in the primary overall,

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Speaker 2: because you've got you, look, you've got a lot of

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Speaker 2: I mean, I could be wrong, but he's an interesting

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Speaker 2: going to bring to things other than apparently take cheap

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Speaker 3: But she's there, so there's that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how all

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Speaker 2: these different candidates look at what is happening in the

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Speaker 2: Is it create the same you know, use the federal

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Speaker 2: I mean, I want to hear what the vision is,

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Speaker 2: you know, what the national level vision is, because you

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Speaker 2: really haven't heard that articulated from anyone yet. I mean Trump,

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Speaker 2: you could say it's more of Trump, but things have

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Speaker 2: and the party has shifted too. So there's a lot

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Speaker 2: that's going to be worked out. I think as part

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Speaker 2: of the primary.

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Speaker 1: This ties in, by the way, why I think DeSantis's

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Speaker 1: battle with Disney has resonated very well with the base

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Speaker 3: I think it's made the corporate is very nervous.

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Speaker 1: If you're big business guy, you're not happy with DeSantis

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Speaker 1: feuding with Disney. And I thought one of the funniest

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Speaker 1: criticisms that was Ron DeSantis took fifty thousand dollars from

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Speaker 1: Disney and now he's, you know, taken shots at him.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that what you want?

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Speaker 1: Don't Don't you want someone to do what's right irrespective

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Speaker 1: the I give to every there's a candidate who has

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Speaker 3: I give to Republicans. I did I give to Democrats.

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Speaker 2: I'd give to, you know, the chief commissar if they're

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Speaker 3: I want them to know.

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Speaker 2: That is how corporations operate for the most part, A

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Speaker 2: lot of them do. They just give money to the

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Speaker 2: whomever they think is going to be in a position

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Speaker 2: to be advantageous to their interests when it matters and

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Speaker 2: that means given to both sides. Right, look at even

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Speaker 2: I thought this was interesting about remember Sam Bankman Freed

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Speaker 2: does that?

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Speaker 3: Does anyone? Can we just take a moment, how many

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Speaker 2: Remember remember a little guy with the curly hair made

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Speaker 2: like tens of billions of dollars just disappeared and he

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Speaker 2: this little weird guy who was, you know, running this

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Speaker 2: crypto exchange that the Miami Heat Arena was named for FTX. Right,

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Speaker 2: and uh, but but remember he was giving money or

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Speaker 2: the those guys were giving money to both sides, and

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Speaker 2: people were like, oh, well, it's not political. Well no,

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Speaker 2: it's very political the whole point. So with Ron DeSantis, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Disney wanted to give him money. Great, they're supporting a

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Speaker 2: candidate that they hope is a good leader. That's what

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Speaker 2: the money is supposed to be for. It's not supposed

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Speaker 2: to be we're buying you off. We're just not saying it.

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Speaker 2: That's for the Biden family. That's a specific thing.

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Speaker 1: So here's the deal buck this Axios poll, Disney carried

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Speaker 1: a reputation score in twenty fourteen of eighty three out

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Speaker 3: Buck, And you know what, you know why?

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Speaker 2: This is about people's kids, right, you know, this is

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Speaker 3: And it was as follows, we.

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Speaker 2: We have Luri in Ashville, North Carolina, who has some

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Speaker 6: Hey, yeah, yeah, I want to weigh in on situation

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Speaker 7: And I mean, I'm sixty four and when I grew up,

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Speaker 3: It was just and then my children and even in

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Speaker 4: It's disgusting and despicable what Disney has gone.

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Speaker 6: I'm shocked.

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Speaker 7: I grew up in the pure days Mini Mickey Mouse.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's shocking to me where they've gone.

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Speaker 6: And I wish my kids would protest it, but they

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Speaker 2: Well you've seen the change, right And thank you Laurie

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Speaker 1: I also think and you're gonna see this soon, Buck,

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Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of people should When

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Speaker 2: in a really, as we know, in many ways, a

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Speaker 2: dishonestly overhyped emotional state on a range of issues, COVID,

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Speaker 2: the BLM two point zero and all this stuff. And

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Speaker 2: Biden was supposed to be normalcy, a grandfatherly figure who

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Speaker 2: wasn't going to push anything crazy, who is going to

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Speaker 2: be there to calm things down. We were all going

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Speaker 2: to stop fighting. Oh, Trump was even if you like

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Speaker 2: Trump's policies, He's too polarizing, even if you like the

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Speaker 2: Trump economy. Right, that was the pitch, and it was

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Speaker 2: all a lie.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Biden White House is putting out directives about giving

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Speaker 2: transgender surgery to twelve year olds, gender mutilation for fourteen

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Speaker 2: year old kids, acting like, if you have any problem

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Speaker 2: with that, you're a bad person. Maybe the state should

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Speaker 2: take your children away from you. That's the moderate Grandpa.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: So I think for people like Elon and they're like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: they lied, they lied, and they're crappy at this job,

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Speaker 2: meaning the Biden White House, so makes sense to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Buck, And you know, people say, what's your goal

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Speaker 1: with the show? I'm sure you get asked this every

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Speaker 1: now and then. I'm trying to persuade people who are

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Speaker 1: persuadable in my head without kick and everything else, because

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Speaker 1: I was persuadable, right, Like, I'm a data person. You

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Speaker 1: show me data, you show me arguments. I've voted Democrat before,

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Speaker 1: and now I look at the Democrat Party and just

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Speaker 1: think they're absolutely insane.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: There are lots of people I think like me. I

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Speaker 1: think there are tens of millions of people out there

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Speaker 1: that if they really look at the evidence, they're capable

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Speaker 1: of being red pilled. And so in my mind, I'm

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Speaker 1: always talking. You know, you'll hear me. I'm always talking

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Speaker 1: to those people who are persuadable because I want to win,

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Speaker 1: and I want to win big, right, And that's really

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Speaker 1: what has to happen in twenty twenty four. I think

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Speaker 1: for things to change, and I'm optimistic when I see

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Speaker 1: things like what's going on with bud Light, or when

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Speaker 1: I see that Disney is making choices that objectively are

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Speaker 1: awful ones. And we got a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: want to weigh in here. Buck again, I was sharing

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Speaker 1: the Axios data about the fact that Disney has gained

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Speaker 1: some Democrat support, but they've lost way more Republican support.

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Speaker 1: And so if your job is to appeal to everyone

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Speaker 1: and you make choices that cause people to like your

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Speaker 1: company less, that's really bad judgment. And Todd and Ames Iowa,

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Speaker 1: you want to weigh in on this.

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Speaker 6: Hell, Hello, gentlemen. It's an incredible honor to talk to

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Speaker 6: both of you, and I mean that from the bottom

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Speaker 6: of my heart. I I love listening to both of you.

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Speaker 6: That yes, sir, real quick, real quick story. You were

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Speaker 6: talking about persuadable people. Rush used to say something years ago,

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Speaker 6: and he said it off and on his during his career,

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Speaker 6: was that if you give me just a week, listen

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Speaker 6: to me for just a week, and if you still

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Speaker 6: hate me, because I did hate Rush for a long time,

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Speaker 6: and he'd say, if you still don't like me or

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Speaker 6: still hate me at that time, then don't listen to

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Speaker 6: me anymore. I took him up on that, and he's

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Speaker 6: I was a persuadable individual at that time. He turns

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Speaker 6: me around in my political views and my my political

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Speaker 6: mind just totally did a flip flop that in one

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Speaker 6: week when I listened to Rush, it was this guy.

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Speaker 6: I connect with this guy and I never ever tried

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Speaker 6: doing that with him until one day I was had

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Speaker 6: a week off of vacation during I'm retired now, but

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Speaker 6: and I listened to him and I said, the man

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Speaker 6: connects with me. And I think that's that's huge with

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Speaker 6: a lot of his audience out there. And you you

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Speaker 6: both of you also you connect with people, and that's

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Speaker 6: he huge. So hey, a quick point to the to

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Speaker 6: the Disney issue. Uh uh Iiger has a board of

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Speaker 6: directors and you guys know a lot more about this

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Speaker 6: than I do. Is it the is the board filled

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Speaker 6: with a bunch of woke individuals, because I would think

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Speaker 6: that those people would be very concerned, as they should

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Speaker 6: be about the bottom line at Disney, and they they're

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Speaker 6: the ones that control who who so put in there

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Speaker 6: at their CEO.

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Speaker 2: So I've I've seen this and dealt with this a

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Speaker 2: little bit. Thank you so much, Todd for Colin from

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Speaker 2: as I have a very very kind call, and thank

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Speaker 2: you for the insights so true about about what Rush.

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Speaker 3: I've had.

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Speaker 2: So many people said that Rush brought them to conservatism,

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Speaker 2: which I don't think there could really be a higher

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Speaker 2: honor that are a radio host doing what we do

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Speaker 2: can achieve than to help someone write their philosophy and

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Speaker 2: help bring them to the understanding of the world where

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Speaker 2: they're rooted in fact, reality and what is true and

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Speaker 2: and anyway, I think that's that's a you said, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're goal is to persuade people over that is certainly

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Speaker 2: a mission that we have here. I just say, save

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Speaker 2: America from the commis.

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Speaker 3: But you know, that's a little similar, similar, but a

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Speaker 3: little different.

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Speaker 2: But I would I would point out on the on

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Speaker 2: the board of directors issues, a lot of people bring

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Speaker 2: this up. A lot of Board of directors' positions are

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Speaker 2: sinecures for people. They just you know, they can get

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Speaker 2: paid very well and they sit there and they do

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Speaker 2: they don't want to rock the boat. They don't want

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Speaker 2: to get into anything, and they certainly don't want to

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Speaker 2: be targeted as out of the mainstream. So I always

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Speaker 2: say this, the woke are an invasive species. They do

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Speaker 2: not seek to coexist in the ecosystem. The woke are

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Speaker 2: the big ass boa constrictors that are eating everything down

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Speaker 2: here in the Everglades in Florida. So you have to

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Speaker 2: get rid of them in the sense that you can't

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Speaker 2: allow them on your board. You can't allow them to

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Speaker 2: take over control of entities because they will only replicate

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Speaker 2: more wokeness. They will only push for more of that.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's that's why you don't see the

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Speaker 2: board stepping in. And there are also woke lunatics. I mean,

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Speaker 2: so the people who are afraid of the other woke lunatics.

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Speaker 2: And there are woke lunatics on the boards of these

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Speaker 2: big companies.

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Speaker 1: What I see, Buck, and I think you're right one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent about that too, is this, First of all,

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Speaker 1: there are some true believers, all right, so put them

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Speaker 1: to the side. There probably are true believers on the

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Speaker 1: Disney board. I also think there's a lot of self

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Speaker 1: preservationists in business.

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Speaker 3: And here's what I mean by that.

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Speaker 1: There's a lie and there's a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: are self preservationists inside of businesses as well that are

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Speaker 1: not high echelon. You can do what's best for you individually,

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Speaker 1: and it can be what's worse for the company. And

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Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of CEOs that say, well,

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Speaker 1: if I send out the emails talking about how much

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Speaker 1: I love BLM. And if I claim, as June gets

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Speaker 1: here in Pride Month, is here that I think it's

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Speaker 1: great that Target is selling bathing suits that allow women's

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Speaker 1: bathing suits to have places for men to tuck their

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Speaker 1: penises because they think that they are women. I'm never

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Speaker 1: gonna lose my job over that. And if you don't,

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Speaker 1: Bob Chapik just got fired. That's how Bob Eiger came

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Speaker 1: back in. And one reason Bob Chapick got fired from

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Speaker 1: Disney was because people said he didn't respond aggressively enough

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Speaker 1: to the don't say gay bill. Now, I actually think

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Speaker 1: Bob Chapick was right, But individual preservation often means you're

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Speaker 1: destroying what's best for the company. And there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of CEOs who say, hey, i'm making twenty million

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Speaker 1: a year, I'll send out that BLM message. It might

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Speaker 1: be the worst decision for the company, it might be

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Speaker 1: alienating some of my base, but my board's gonna pay

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Speaker 1: me twenty million dollars or more a year until at

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Speaker 1: some point the business gets so bad. Buck, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I said this off air to you or

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Speaker 1: on air. Look at Disney's chart Disney's stock is lower

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Speaker 1: today than it was nine years ago. If you bought

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Speaker 1: Disney stock back in two twenty fourteen, it's the S

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Speaker 1: and P's up over double. You've actually lost money because

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Speaker 1: the stock price is down.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Clay and Buck. We've got a lot

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Speaker 2: more of your calls, and we'll also return to the

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Speaker 2: the budget, the debt ceiling, and the Biden administration right now?

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Speaker 3: How are they going to react to all of this?

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Speaker 2: But first, can I just say, you know, Clay, I

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Speaker 2: think we haven't really in fair due here to Nancy Pelosi,

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Speaker 2: because not only is she the former Speaker of the House,

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Speaker 2: of all time. I mean Nancy Pelosi's hedge fund skills.

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Speaker 2: Personal hedge fund skills are uncanny. I mean, mathematically seem

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Speaker 2: almost impossible. It's almost like she must have some sort

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Speaker 2: of edge because she's so brilliant. I guess, But did

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Speaker 2: you know she's also an amateur historian, Clay, Because I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: I actually just realized this. I mixed up the names

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Speaker 2: of this one. Biden is an amateur historian, because here

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Speaker 2: he is to tell everybody that Nancy Pelosi great economic mind.

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Speaker 2: Biden amateur historian, Biden saying that Pelosi helped to rescue

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Speaker 2: the economy during the Great Depression.

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Speaker 3: Play twenty three with Nancy.

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Speaker 1: Leading away, you never had to worry about the bill

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Speaker 1: had passed.

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Speaker 3: She said she had the votes. She had the votes.

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Speaker 7: Every time.

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Speaker 3: She she had to vote so many life changing piece of.

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Speaker 7: Legislation, Selle prescy, the economy, the Great Depression.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Clay, Nancy Pelosi is an older woman, but

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure she didn't rescue the economy during the

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Speaker 2: Great Depression as Speaker of the House. Because if so,

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Speaker 2: whatever face cream she's using, we need some, Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: And I saw her invading suit, I mean, Martha Stewart.

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Speaker 2: They should have put Nancy Pelosi on the front cover

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Speaker 2: of the of the Sports Illustrated Look here, and I

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Speaker 2: think there's a lawsuit involving Tucker having that picture up right,

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Speaker 2: which is actually really funny because all of this is

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Speaker 2: so ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Biden can't do the job right. And the other thing

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Speaker 1: I would encourage Elon Musk to say tonight when he

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Speaker 1: has his interview with Ron DeSantis, I think he needs

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Speaker 1: to say, Hey, I would love to have Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: on with me for an hour two And I've said

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Speaker 1: this on this radio show. The White House reached out

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Speaker 1: and they said, hey, Joe Biden wants to come on

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck show, we'd welcome him because I think

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Speaker 1: if he did an hour on our show, which Trump

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Speaker 1: has done several times, if Joe Biden did an hour

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Speaker 1: on our show, the twenty fifth Amendment would be trending

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Speaker 1: by the time he held hung up the phone. Because

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Speaker 1: I don't think Buck and I bet you would agree.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he could sit and talk to us

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Speaker 1: and answer questions for an hour without everyone out there saying,

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Speaker 1: oh my goodness, this guy cannot remotely be close to

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Speaker 1: being president of the United States right now. I think

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Speaker 1: one hour with us would end any ability for him

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Speaker 1: to continue to argue why the job, which is why

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Speaker 1: they weren't do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there is no chance that that is ever going

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Speaker 3: to happen, as we all know.

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Speaker 2: But hey, the inviters out there, Charlie and utahs, got

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Speaker 2: some thoughts on the Board of Director's point.

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Hey guys, I'm just having a little bit of trouble

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Speaker 5: erasing the picture of Nancy Pelosi in a bathing suit

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Speaker 5: out of my mind right now. But that said, you

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Speaker 5: know that you were talking a bit ago about why

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Speaker 5: the board members that are acting so woke on Disney,

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Speaker 5: and I think the key thing is is that on

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Speaker 5: these big on these big companies like this, you get

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Speaker 5: the board members are typically CEOs of their own big companies. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and if they if they are, if they're not standing

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Speaker 5: up for the woke, for the woke side of things,

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Speaker 5: they're going to be suffering the consequences back in their

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Speaker 5: own companies. So that's probably why you're not seeing the

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Speaker 5: board taking a more aggressive stand.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point. It's a great point too. Very

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Speaker 1: rarely are these boards actually made up of independent members.

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Speaker 1: They typically are rubber stamps for the CEO, and they're

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Speaker 1: often high high profile executives at other big companies. Again,

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Speaker 1: they're doing what's best for their individual remuneration the money

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Speaker 1: that they're making, as opposed to what's in the company's

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Speaker 1: best interest.

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Speaker 2: Greg and fort Myers want to get you in before

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Speaker 2: the break here. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Greg?

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Speaker 4: Hey, claim buck on time listener and Russian Now.

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Speaker 3: You guys, thank you, Hey.

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Speaker 4: I just want to touch babes. I was born in

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Speaker 4: the fifty grew up Disney. You know, something tonight with

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Speaker 4: the parents the whole nine yards. Daughters are born in

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Speaker 4: the first part of the early eighties, put them to

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Speaker 4: Disney every years for a ton of money. Old his

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Speaker 4: daughter worked for Disney, you know, in the college program

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Speaker 4: for a year, brought this. Now it takes my grandson.

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Speaker 4: They don't bother anymore either. I wouldn't step putting the

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Speaker 4: property now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a lot, Greg, thank you for calling

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Speaker 2: in a lot. A lot of people feel that way.

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Speaker 2: They feel like Disney was Disney was something they could

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Speaker 2: trust their family with, bottom line, and now they can't,

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Speaker 2: and they're making decisions based on that. We'll get into

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