Speaker 1: The volume, Shador Sanders is drafted in the fifth round.
Speaker 1: The Browns traded up to select him. All these anonymous
Speaker 1: reports are coming out about Shador having bad interviews, especially
Speaker 1: with the Giants. According to Todd McShay, Shador completely bombed
Speaker 1: his interview with the Giants. He didn't have a great
Speaker 1: interview with head coach Brian day Ball. The preparation wasn't
Speaker 1: there for an install package. Day Ball called him out
Speaker 1: and Sanders didn't like it. Day Ball had gone eight
Speaker 1: and twenty six over the past two seasons, so he
Speaker 1: probably knows a thing or two about being unprepared. To
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I mean, you go eight and
Speaker 1: twenty six, you go eight and twenty six being unprepared.
Speaker 2: You are known unprepared person when you see one.
Speaker 1: Considering over the last two years, that's kind of exactly
Speaker 1: what you've been. And then there's been reports of him
Speaker 1: having a big entourage because his brother shoots videos of
Speaker 1: him being in the family. He's with his brother and
Speaker 1: his family, no drinking, no drugs, no controversy, just living
Speaker 1: his life.
Speaker 2: Oh till this is I'm gonna start with you first. Yeah, here,
Speaker 2: that he.
Speaker 1: Didn't do well in the interview, he didn't hit it
Speaker 1: off with coach day Ball and seemed like he was unprepared,
Speaker 1: didn't like the entourage.
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, right, I don't believe it.
Speaker 3: I don't believe it because every single NFL player, every
Speaker 3: single When I say every single, I mean every single.
Speaker 4: Has an entourage. Most of the entourage is his family
Speaker 4: in France.
Speaker 3: If it's not family in France, it's friends that you
Speaker 3: grew up with, right, Everybody has that.
Speaker 4: So I'm not sure why I even came in to.
Speaker 3: Play and we talked about everybody regardless of race, regardless
Speaker 3: of ethnicity, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: So that's one thing interview interview goes bad. I'm prepared now.
Speaker 3: I think I'm thinking about a son of one of
Speaker 3: the great players of all time, who's always been prepared
Speaker 3: and coached and having tutelage from one of the best
Speaker 3: of all time, and for some reason, all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: you weren't prepared for interview when it comes to the
Speaker 3: game of football in which he's a quarterback.
Speaker 4: Again, that's something else that's not believable.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: You know, media, media can can can can screw things
Speaker 3: and report things that obviously aren't true.
Speaker 2: Bingo. Forget that.
Speaker 4: So he dropped to the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2: Round five? What picked one?
Speaker 5: Four?
Speaker 3: Was it one? I'm not even tripping at this point.
Speaker 3: I'm not even tripping at this point because Prime obviously
Speaker 3: is prepared should do it for any and everything, dealing
Speaker 3: with media, dealing with with with those that doubt you.
Speaker 3: So I'm just happy he has this opportunity because what's
Speaker 3: happening in this scenario, in this situation in which I
Speaker 3: still believe, is clusion. I'm not talking about race. I'm
Speaker 3: not talking about race at all. I'm just speed. I'm
Speaker 3: just saying a collective collusion against brother Sanders and all
Speaker 3: the things. And then just the hype and listen the
Speaker 3: machine again. I said it last night. I said it
Speaker 3: last night. We have choices, people choose what they want
Speaker 3: to see. I said it yesterday. I'm not talking about
Speaker 3: race at all. One thing for sure, the Machine is
Speaker 3: undefeated and will always remain undefeated anytime it feels not
Speaker 3: really threatened. But there's another name or family that think
Speaker 3: they can come in and do things their way.
Speaker 2: They'll humble you.
Speaker 3: And this was then example of it, an example of
Speaker 3: it that we've never ever ever seen before that this magnitudek.
Speaker 3: We've never seen anything like this. I'm happy for Shador.
Speaker 3: I'm happy for Shiloh and for Shador standers getting the
Speaker 3: opportunity to play for the Cleveland Browns. His situation is
Speaker 3: simple as put. It's delayed, but it's not denied. It's
Speaker 3: not about where you go, it's what you do once
Speaker 3: you get there. So now you know what you need
Speaker 3: to do. The Browns haven't had a quarterback, haven't had
Speaker 3: a quarterback, a sufficient quarterback and consistent quarterback for Hardy, Colesar,
Speaker 3: gay Ribs and Bernie for a very long time. This
Speaker 3: might be their calling, This might be their blessing. This
Speaker 3: might be his.
Speaker 4: Blessing even going there. So I'm happy for him.
Speaker 2: He's gonna do what's necessary.
Speaker 4: I'm sure he had the chip on the shoulder.
Speaker 3: And I'm excited because in that in that AFC North,
Speaker 3: you know it run through Cincinnati, and the only.
Speaker 4: Way you're gonna get it done is you forgot a quarterback.
Speaker 4: I just had that in the piece.
Speaker 2: I saw that. I saw you done that in there.
Speaker 2: Did you think it's one?
Speaker 6: Honestly, man, guys, to be honest with you, I mean
Speaker 6: I fell for him, obviously, you know, you work so
Speaker 6: hard and it's tough for you projected to go first round.
Speaker 2: I had a situation once.
Speaker 6: It's not obviously not the same because basketball is totally
Speaker 6: different as far as was the number of people that
Speaker 6: get picked. But I was with my best friend Nazi
Speaker 6: Muhamma was supposed to be picked a lot of them
Speaker 6: when he came out and Na slid to twenty nine
Speaker 6: and just sit there and that obviously it was nothing
Speaker 6: like where you have to actually wait a whole nother
Speaker 6: day to get drafted, but just to see him slide, huh.
Speaker 2: You ain't two days. He got drafted today.
Speaker 6: Yeah, to wait two days, so's it's it's different. But
Speaker 6: I think like this, to be honest with you, I
Speaker 6: say that I think you have to play the game, Shannon.
Speaker 6: To be honest with you, I think if he would
Speaker 6: have played, I'll play. I'm just gonna play the game,
Speaker 6: so I'd get drafted whatever that would have been. Whatever,
Speaker 6: And I think sometimes that's what not And I'm not
Speaker 6: sure this, and you guys can correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 6: because it seems like I've never seen an agent and
Speaker 6: obviously i'm watching from Afar. I'm watching off TV on
Speaker 6: social media. Did he do we have an agent?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I bet Shallow made a joke too about our dad
Speaker 1: with our agent, and we might need to hire a
Speaker 1: new agent, okay, right, I don't.
Speaker 6: Know because I think I think you know how to
Speaker 6: say it. Sometimes you have an agent. He can tell
Speaker 6: you the truth behind closed doors of what they're actually
Speaker 6: saying and what you need to work on. So by
Speaker 6: then I've been to day, he probably not really hearing everything.
Speaker 6: They probably can't tell them, so he's not hearing everything
Speaker 6: that they're saying.
Speaker 2: So I think that was probably one mistake.
Speaker 6: And I don't know if he had an agent or not,
Speaker 6: so if the agent to kind of buffer that to
Speaker 6: talk to them and kind of figure it out. But
Speaker 6: you gotta figure this thing out, man. I think one
Speaker 6: thing about it. It was about interview I don't think
Speaker 6: the skill set. I mean he put the numbers up.
Speaker 6: The numbers speak for theyself. He had the numbers, so
Speaker 6: we got to look at some of the other stuff.
Speaker 6: I mean, I worked out for nine teams. When I
Speaker 6: came out, I interviewed with nine teams, so you gotta
Speaker 6: go through that process. I'm not sure how he interviewed
Speaker 6: maybe that was a little sketchy. That can rub some
Speaker 6: gms and it's ext the wrong way. You know, sometimes
Speaker 6: you don interview Well, maybe the swagger what he's coming
Speaker 6: with great family, family dynamics.
Speaker 2: His family's gonna support him. Obviously.
Speaker 6: He has a certain swag, a certain order he carries
Speaker 6: with him, which.
Speaker 2: We all love.
Speaker 6: And we all we just talked about that. We liked that,
Speaker 6: we talked. We all all three of us talk trash,
Speaker 6: we all celebrated, we all have fun, so we know that.
Speaker 2: So that's not the problem. We brought our own style,
Speaker 2: so that wasn't a problem with them.
Speaker 6: I just felt like they didn't play the game that
Speaker 6: everybody else played, and they wanted to show them that. Look,
Speaker 6: it's still the NFL. We still run this. You still
Speaker 6: got to go through this proper pecking order. And I
Speaker 6: think that's what it was. That's what it looks like.
Speaker 6: You can't look at it. If you look at his
Speaker 6: numbers and skilled of them, the guys that got picked
Speaker 6: perform all this stuff, it doesn't make sense, right, So
Speaker 6: it's got to be something behind the scenes. Yeah, it
Speaker 6: can't be football ability. It has to be something to
Speaker 6: buy the things. That's why I said that he had
Speaker 6: an agent, maybe somebody that could hear the noise, because
Speaker 6: he probably didn't hear the real noise. Correct, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean? We all TV watching all the analysts
Speaker 6: and everybody. But you know, y'all proven you so much information,
Speaker 6: y'all don't prove you so much. We're not hearing that
Speaker 6: real noise, you know what I mean. So that's what
Speaker 6: in terms of your agent gets that for you to
Speaker 6: kind of help you out and maybe help you get
Speaker 6: your act together.
Speaker 2: That's why I really want to know if he had
Speaker 2: an agent.
Speaker 3: But then, you know the funny thing about it, to
Speaker 3: on on even even at that point, you are you are,
Speaker 3: shador is who he is.
Speaker 4: The Santa's family, they are who they are.
Speaker 3: That that that's it, and they've always been unapologetically themselves
Speaker 3: and that rubs a lot of people wrong. A lot
Speaker 3: of people don't like that, including some of those in
Speaker 3: the NFL. Some of the things that Deanna said in
Speaker 3: the past they probably didn't like. They probably didn't like it.
Speaker 3: You know, he wanted to pull and uh, he wanted
Speaker 3: to pull you know with Eli that.
Speaker 2: Probably they probably didn't like it. They quote tweets that
Speaker 2: he said a long time ago. And I know let
Speaker 2: me tell you why.
Speaker 3: I know this is all collusion. You know, I think
Speaker 3: about some like like going, you know what, I'm not
Speaker 3: even gonna bring it up. I'm not gonna bring it up.
Speaker 3: I'm happy he got where he needed to go. This
Speaker 3: is exactly where were supposed to land. Because I guarantee
Speaker 3: you watch it be a blessing in disguise and them
Speaker 3: never having a quarterback and all of a sudden, for
Speaker 3: some reason, Shador being the answer for the next decade.
Speaker 2: I hope you're right.
Speaker 6: Watch what I actual, guys something as a I'm a
Speaker 6: basketball guy. I'm gonna ask you some Chad. You can
Speaker 6: you can ask this because you talked to right now.
Speaker 6: Can you ask this if the Cleveland the right fit
Speaker 6: for him? Because sometimes that's just regard what number he went.
Speaker 6: Did he go to a good situation? Well, he can
Speaker 6: actually be able to showcase himself and have a real
Speaker 6: opportunity to be a starting quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Do you guys like that situation?
Speaker 3: If the GM and the owners are combatant when his
Speaker 3: time comes to be able to compete for a starting job,
Speaker 3: if they continue to build around him, Yes, it's the
Speaker 3: right place if they continue to do right by the
Speaker 3: quarterback position like other teams are doing, like they do
Speaker 3: for the Mahomes, and they do for the Jaalen Hurts,
Speaker 3: and they do for you know, the other quarterbacks, the
Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels. As you continue to put the pieces to
Speaker 3: the postal to ride him while you have a quarterback
Speaker 3: on a very very cheap I hate using that word cheap,
Speaker 3: but you know, a very affordable content.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's in the right place.
Speaker 2: But if they do what they've always.
Speaker 3: Done for a very long time, where they've been through
Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy six thousand quarterbacks, then it would
Speaker 3: be the same, the same process to repeat itself. They
Speaker 3: had Baker Mayfield, you had the number one pick. There
Speaker 3: was nothing wrong with Baker Mayfield because look what he's
Speaker 3: doing in Tampa Bay. So that tells you where the
Speaker 3: problem lies. That the problem lies with Cleveland internally. Now
Speaker 3: you've got an opportunity again, let's not f it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: I love when quarterbacks, young quarterbacks come in. They have
Speaker 1: an unbelievable support system. Hopefully you have somebody that can
Speaker 1: that's really smart schematically knows how the diagram plays. Oh
Speaker 1: Joe knows how to put quarterbacks in the right situation.
Speaker 1: You have a decent running back. I'm not saying you
Speaker 1: need sat one. I mean, although that would be nice
Speaker 1: to have a Saquon Barkley and Derri Henry on a
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, but you need quality receivers.
Speaker 2: You see CJ. Stroud where he went and had success.
Speaker 1: Look at the receivering court that he had, Look at
Speaker 1: jayde and Daniels, look at the receiving court that he had.
Speaker 1: The question is are there enough pieces around any quarterback
Speaker 1: for regardless if it's a rookie or not, is there
Speaker 1: enough pieces around him so he can adequately do what
Speaker 1: he needs to get done. I think Stefanowski is as
Speaker 1: unbelievable coach. He's the coach of the year. He knows
Speaker 1: how to call plays, he knows how the scheme plays,
Speaker 1: and so now it just comes down to, Okay, when
Speaker 1: you get your opportunity, you gotta shine. You gotta prepare
Speaker 1: like there's no tomorrow, because that's already out there. O Joe,
Speaker 1: you see what they're saying he was unprepared. You see
Speaker 1: what they did, O Joe. See we already put that
Speaker 1: out there on you. Now, hey, that's the game. They
Speaker 1: gonna play the game. They're going to play the game.
Speaker 1: There's only one way you could be the game. That's
Speaker 1: in between the lines. Yeah, No matter what to say,
Speaker 1: it blocks out all the lowers.
Speaker 3: You can only be the game in between the lines.
Speaker 3: That's it, no matter what they say.
Speaker 1: But I will say this on Joe, I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're gonna allow Bluckie to go in and film
Speaker 1: everything that your door is doing, that's over.
Speaker 2: That's over now.
Speaker 1: When you at Colorado and your dad's the head coach,
Speaker 1: they're gonna allow that.
Speaker 2: That's over with now. Yeah, I mean they understand that.
Speaker 2: But I'm thought he was the thought. I thought he
Speaker 2: was the video guy. I thought he's the video Yo.
Speaker 2: You can't. You ain't gonna have no personal video guy. Well,
Speaker 2: yeah you can. You can't. Yeah, you can't do that.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Once once you entered that building, once you on grounds
Speaker 3: in that facility, all that, all that's done.
Speaker 1: Yeah and so h yeah, and so that's that's having
Speaker 1: it on rock.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't like.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: if he went to the building and they tried to
Speaker 1: go in the meeting rooms and Bucket was trying to
Speaker 1: capture content. Uh, he doesn't have an agent because time
Speaker 1: agent was Eugene Parker, rested old Eugene passed away several
Speaker 1: years ago, and so I'm sure Time will probably interview
Speaker 1: somebody now, And I agree. I agree with you, Twine, probably.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, because you have an agent and
Speaker 1: they hear things that they can tell you things. Now,
Speaker 1: they're gonna all the really really bad stuff. They ain't
Speaker 1: gonna share that with you because they don't want to
Speaker 1: mess with your mentally, Yes, yeah, but they'll share enough
Speaker 1: of stuff with you so you get the picture and
Speaker 1: get a great understanding of what's actually going on.
Speaker 2: So, uh, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Hey, if I'm not mistaken, I so you know, obviously
Speaker 3: my agent was obviously when I first got the league
Speaker 3: of Jerome Stanley, phenomenal dude that did really well for me,
Speaker 3: you know, on the back end of my career from
Speaker 3: the middle on the back end, it was Drew Rosenhouse.
Speaker 3: And if I'm not mistaken, I saw drews Rosenhouse post
Speaker 3: for Shiloh Sanders once he got drafted. So I'm assuming
Speaker 3: Drew rosen House must to be representing Shiloh.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure represents your door though, right.
Speaker 1: I get it because Okay, the Brian's Court, the current
Speaker 1: quarterback room, Deshaun Watson, Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, Dylan Gabriel,
Speaker 1: Shador Sanders, DeShawn Watson, Starter Flac or the Vet. If
Speaker 1: Deshan can't go, you got Kenny Pickett, the backup, Dylan Gabriel,
Speaker 1: rookie Chadure, rookie Phil. What's going on? I mean, damn,
Speaker 1: what's really going on? What's really going on on?
Speaker 2: Joe Hey, I like to compete. He got no problem
Speaker 2: with it. I like to compete.
Speaker 4: Who I need to beat out?
Speaker 2: I love Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 1: I love I don't know how you beat Deshaun out
Speaker 1: when he got another forty eight got thirty eight million
Speaker 1: dollars this year and another forty million next year.
Speaker 2: How you beat him out?
Speaker 5: Sean?
Speaker 2: And he not Shune not playing the shit. Okay, he's
Speaker 2: not gonna play this year.
Speaker 7: Okay, So now you got flat Yeah, yeah, you got
Speaker 7: ach Achilles, Achilles Achilles. Yeah, so listen, I'm yeah, yeah, yeah, kids,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you how it's gonna play.
Speaker 2: Outat I love Kenny pictt.
Speaker 3: I love Kenny Pickett, I love that that No brother Gabriel,
Speaker 3: but Chador if he does what he's supposed to do.
Speaker 3: You know, we've seen Kenny Pickett already. We haven't seen
Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel yet. But I'm just saying, I know, probably
Speaker 3: Fla I'm gonna start, He's gonna start at some point,
Speaker 3: She's gonna get a shot.
Speaker 4: At some point he's gonna get that shot. And when
Speaker 4: the or open.
Speaker 2: Let me let me ask both of you guys.
Speaker 6: Let me ask both of you while Cleveland whileld Cleveland
Speaker 6: do that, while with Cleveland won a quarterback room with
Speaker 6: five guys that that bring up?
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 2: Does that mean anything? They don't get them? Yeah? The three? Okay,
Speaker 2: so the Sean Sean DeShawn is not playing it.
Speaker 6: I don't forget he's not playing. He's not playing like
Speaker 6: January or February or something like that.
Speaker 1: You're right, I forgot, yeah, play you might would just
Speaker 1: go ahead and you know, put him on our R
Speaker 1: and go ahead.
Speaker 5: Let that go.
Speaker 1: Uh what I don't get Cleveland at some point in time,
Speaker 1: y'all gotta stop trading back.
Speaker 2: Y'all could have had Julio Jones. You traded back.
Speaker 1: You could have had you could have had Travis Hunter,
Speaker 1: and you're doer and you traded back. Yeah, at some
Speaker 1: point in time, when guys are sitting there waiting for
Speaker 1: you to take them, take them right, take them.
Speaker 2: It's okay.
Speaker 1: But I guess they're looking at it like we're more
Speaker 1: than one player away. But sometimes that player can help
Speaker 1: change things around. I don't I don't get it. I
Speaker 1: don't get what they're doing with this situation. Like you said, twan,
Speaker 1: he had an unbelievable college career. He played well in
Speaker 1: Jackson State, and then they said, well, yes, Jackson State,
Speaker 1: that's why you're doing that.
Speaker 2: He goes to Colorado.
Speaker 1: He puts some successual numbers, you know, great completion percentage.
Speaker 2: He throws guys open.
Speaker 1: No, he's not the most athletic guy, but he's not
Speaker 1: a decatholic. He don't need to hide jump, long jump,
Speaker 1: pole vault, shot put hurdle one hundred, four hundred fifteen.
Speaker 1: He do all that all he needs to do. Can
Speaker 1: he take three? Can he drop back five? Can his
Speaker 1: own read? Can can he do the stuff? Can he
Speaker 1: process information in a hurry? Yeah, that's what a quarterback needs.
Speaker 1: He needs to be confident. He needs to be able
Speaker 1: to process information in the hurry, and he needs to
Speaker 1: be able to retain information. I mean, he he's shown
Speaker 1: you he can do that. Ever since he's I mean
Speaker 1: from from middle school to high school to college. So
Speaker 1: let's see if that is that's transferable. I like to
Speaker 1: think I don't like to think that it is. But
Speaker 1: you don't know twy. You know this same thing with
Speaker 1: all sports. You don't know what you have with the
Speaker 1: guy until you get him in your building and put
Speaker 1: him in your uniform. That's when you one hundred percent
Speaker 1: know for certain what the hell I got?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because all.
Speaker 1: This other stuff, well, he won this award, and he
Speaker 1: did all this, and he did all of that, and
Speaker 1: I've seen it having played in the NFL. Guys come
Speaker 1: in and have all these credentials and I don't know
Speaker 1: how they Hey, somebody gave you a fake passport, cause
Speaker 1: I don't know how you get all I don't know
Speaker 1: how you get all that.
Speaker 6: Let me ask you, guys, in football, is about the
Speaker 6: number or is it more about.
Speaker 8: The fit fit? It's always gonna be fair, It's always
Speaker 8: gonna be fit fit always, do you guys think so?
Speaker 8: If you had to grag this fit. What would you
Speaker 8: guys go right now? I know you's got to go compete.
Speaker 2: I like.
Speaker 1: Fit.
Speaker 3: I would have liked New Orleans a little better. I
Speaker 3: would like New Orleans better too.
Speaker 1: But the thing is now, because twat I was telling
Speaker 1: not what your last night is that I went to
Speaker 1: a team I was a big wide receiver. I went
Speaker 1: to one of the three teams that had the he
Speaker 1: back position. Washington had the H back position, the Broncos
Speaker 1: had the h back position, and the Chargers San Diego
Speaker 1: there in San Diego then had the age back position.
Speaker 1: Every tight end on the roster got hurt. I'm the
Speaker 1: biggest receiver. Coach Reese, come a, would you be willing
Speaker 1: to move to age back? I'm gonna catch the ball? Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you told me, if you learned to plays. Okay,
Speaker 1: So now here I am a big wide receiver. Imagine
Speaker 1: I don't go to a team that has the age
Speaker 1: back position. So I switched midway through like a third
Speaker 1: of the way I have like probably like week eight,
Speaker 1: Week nine, Week ten, they moved me to like tight
Speaker 1: end cat and the rest of that they say history.
Speaker 1: So it's absolutely where you go. Not a lot I
Speaker 1: get it because a lot of times twin you know
Speaker 1: this first four and five picks, they get a boatload
Speaker 1: of money. Now you want to make a boat load
Speaker 1: of money for short period of time, for an extended
Speaker 1: period of time. Because I had a fourteen year career.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys that went in the
Speaker 1: first round on Joe. They made money for a three
Speaker 1: four year period. I made money for a fourteen year period.
Speaker 1: It's not how much money you make, it's how long
Speaker 1: you make money and then what you're gonna do. It's
Speaker 1: not how much money you make, it is how much
Speaker 1: you keep. So it's absolutely twine fit where you go
Speaker 1: that fit.
Speaker 2: And what they do for you while you're there.
Speaker 6: Too, though, he got It's made a little money in
Speaker 6: space too, So yeah, yeah, have known.
Speaker 1: Had he known what he known, he'd have stayed in
Speaker 1: college and made some more. And I held money. He like, hell,
Speaker 1: if y'all gonna take me in the field around he
Speaker 1: made more, Yet I'm ailing.
Speaker 2: What is the rook Your contract gonna be your joke?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, oh wow, that is right. Wow, listen, I
Speaker 3: think I think the situation in general is good for him.
Speaker 3: Get it puts a chip on the show. Yeah, Oh,
Speaker 3: this is this is how you feel about me. Okay,
Speaker 3: bet hold my beer, I got this watch me.
Speaker 2: I listen.
Speaker 3: I face adversity before. I've had the hurdle obstacles before.
Speaker 4: This is just another one that's in the way.
Speaker 2: I'm going to show you.
Speaker 3: I'm going to prove to you that I'm worthy of
Speaker 3: doing all the things you said I can't. Oh, you
Speaker 3: feel I'm a fifth round pick. I mean I'm I'm
Speaker 3: a fifth rounder.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Tripping the Jaguars one hundred percent committed to Travis Harder,
Speaker 1: letting him play wide receiver and corner. They told him,
Speaker 1: you got a bold vision, and we got a bold
Speaker 1: vision for you. Yeah, Ojo, Yeah, what you're thinking.
Speaker 2: I like what you mean?
Speaker 4: What I'm thinking, I'm thinking, duvall Man, I like it.
Speaker 2: I like it, listen, he said.
Speaker 3: He said it not only during the interview process, allowing
Speaker 3: him to do what he has dreamed of and been
Speaker 3: working on the entirey of his career so far. I
Speaker 3: mean as far as collegiate wise.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 3: He has a belief and believes he believes that's the
Speaker 3: one thing that you need in anything that you do
Speaker 3: regards to whether it's the corporate world or whether it's sports.
Speaker 3: If I believe I can do what I can achieve it,
Speaker 3: you and I we have different beliefs on whether they
Speaker 3: can do it at this level. But we're gonna find
Speaker 3: out now, We're gonna find out, even play both sides
Speaker 3: of the ball. I like the fact that the owners,
Speaker 3: the GMS, and everyone else inside that that that locker
Speaker 3: room are going to allow him to do exactly what
Speaker 3: he did in college to what.
Speaker 4: Extent, I'm not sure. To what extent I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I think they gave a brief, a brief press conference
Speaker 3: on ways they can figure out on how to do it.
Speaker 2: I'm just excited him, man. I'm happy. I'm happy for
Speaker 2: trav I'm happy for the Jaguars.
Speaker 3: I'm happy for the fans in that city, especially uh
Speaker 3: the city itself.
Speaker 2: Man, they got a good one.
Speaker 3: Then he's gonna put some busts in the seats and
Speaker 3: he's gonna make it exciting for the next next decade.
Speaker 6: I got a question for you guys, just you know,
Speaker 6: as football guys, just honestly, what if you you guys
Speaker 6: know how talent he is and how good he is,
Speaker 6: which one's best at. Which one do you think he
Speaker 6: could be the Which one you think he could be
Speaker 6: great at?
Speaker 2: I know you don't want It's.
Speaker 6: Hard to pick one side, but I'm pretty sure he's
Speaker 6: better on one side than the other.
Speaker 2: And me, look at me. I like him at dB. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: I think he has incredible instincts. I think he's an
Speaker 1: instincts are crazy. The way he can see in his
Speaker 1: recognition to see this and diagnose it. And that's what
Speaker 1: the really great corners can do to one is that
Speaker 1: they can see a formation, they'll see a split, and
Speaker 1: they'll know automatically what's coming. So I look at I
Speaker 1: look at this split. I look at these two receivers
Speaker 1: over here. I might take a glance over there. That's okay,
Speaker 1: I guys up for y'all running if you want to
Speaker 1: run it, if you want to try to run, be
Speaker 1: off deep and try to run this same right there
Speaker 1: behind it and watch what I do to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he has I think he has unbelievable instincts,
Speaker 1: unbelievable recognition. And you build a package around him and
Speaker 1: oh Joe, remember we talked about Brian Thomas Jr. Ye There,
Speaker 1: he's not better than Brian Thomas Jr. He's phenomenal. Brian
Speaker 1: Thomas Jr.
Speaker 2: He that guy.
Speaker 4: Listen, Brian ty A Antoine. Brian Thomas Jr.
Speaker 3: Is one of those receivers that will probably be a
Speaker 3: top five receiver maybe maybe after this year. He's that good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, out of l s U.
Speaker 4: When you already know what LSU produced, he wanted, he
Speaker 4: wanted them once.
Speaker 2: Well as probably be third downs packages. Right, but let's see.
Speaker 1: That's see people when when Ocho and I we try
Speaker 1: to explain to people, yeah, build a package. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: you have a third down package, or you have a
Speaker 1: specialty package, a group of plays that you feel comfortable
Speaker 1: with him. Maybe it's in the red zone, maybe it's
Speaker 1: in certain areas of the field, certain situations. But people
Speaker 1: like nah, just let him play as much as you
Speaker 1: want to play.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, okay, you can't.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 3: You can't run him into the ground. You want you
Speaker 3: want him to play and make sure he's efficient on
Speaker 3: both sides.
Speaker 2: Of the ball. Yes, you wanted to be ash of physicality.
Speaker 2: Is this body makeup ready for that physicality?
Speaker 1: There's the mental approach because you got the study. I mean,
Speaker 1: like I said, Okay, we said one thing Ocho about
Speaker 1: rock recognition as the dB. But you have to understand also,
Speaker 1: you have to understand coverages from a wide receiver perspective, right,
Speaker 1: you have to understand. So let's just say, for the
Speaker 1: sake of argument, you play in Miami. Okay, you guard
Speaker 1: Tyreek for for a twelve eight ten, twelve plays and
Speaker 1: now you got to go up again a Jayleen Ramsey.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You guard Zaint Flowers and you god Sean Bateman, and
Speaker 1: then you got to go up against Marlon Humphrey and Wiggins.
Speaker 1: So you know you got to be because you look,
Speaker 1: there are very few teams in college that had an
Speaker 1: elite corner and an elite dB.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get it every week.
Speaker 1: Now, you get it every week, even if the guys
Speaker 1: aren't certain, they're really good. So now you got you
Speaker 1: got a Nico, and now you got Daarri Stingley, and
Speaker 1: you got Stingley.
Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a nasty kind of I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I said, you're saying, yeah, ain't no nice, ain't no,
Speaker 6: ain't no, not well.
Speaker 2: Off.
Speaker 1: I'm going bud oh, Joe, Joe, Warren Moon personally unretires
Speaker 1: the number one for cam Ward. Pro Football Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer Warren Moon, currently the only blank quarterback in the
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame, gave up his number one
Speaker 1: famous number one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, gave his blessing and allowed cam Ward to wear the.
Speaker 1: Jersey previously retired by the Titans recently said it would
Speaker 1: consider giving this blessing the war toward the digit. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking nobody said Moon would ask if he would allow
Speaker 1: permission to give Ward the number to Ward? Should wound?
Speaker 1: Should Warren have felt pressure to do this? On joke,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say pressure. But cam Ward is special. Cam
Speaker 1: Ward is a special player.
Speaker 3: He's obviously he's coming to He's coming to the Titans,
Speaker 3: and why not continue that legacy? Why not continue that
Speaker 3: legacy that Warren Moon set, you know when he was
Speaker 3: there and allowed cam to carry that torch on, you know,
Speaker 3: wearing the number one as a new franchise quarterback, hopefully
Speaker 3: for the next decade or so.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 4: It's a dope move.
Speaker 2: It's a dope movie. Joe. I wouldn't I have Cam
Speaker 2: even new? You think Cam New? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, Okay, that would have been a dope.
Speaker 2: Surprise. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: I want to ask Joe, Joe, you got your number retired?
Speaker 1: Somebody come in and they want to wear that, They
Speaker 1: want to wear Joe. They would what you doing, Joe? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm doing it if it's special?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: He number one? Pick he been weighing the number one. Uh,
Speaker 6: you know, shout out to O G for you know,
Speaker 6: taking out the rafts.
Speaker 5: Lay young boy, take off with it. Yeah, I ain't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't got EGO when it comes to that.
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, uncle, Joe. We ain't just giving
Speaker 3: anybody that number. You got to be that boy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and cam Ward is that boy. So it's understandable that's
Speaker 3: someone you know what majority number retire. But for him, yeah,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I'm good. I relink Our relink was sat
Speaker 3: absolutely seven numbers?
Speaker 2: Were you always seven? Joke?
Speaker 1: Nah?
Speaker 2: Man, I wouldn't uber what were you? Weren't seventy Phoenix?
Speaker 6: No, I wouldn't look. I wore Uh, I just got
Speaker 6: I just got seven when I got to Brooklyn. But
Speaker 6: coming up, like through junior high, high school, in college,
Speaker 6: I wore number twenty four. So when I got to
Speaker 6: the pros. I got drafted by Boston. They ain't got
Speaker 6: no numbers. Yeah, every number they got big numbers, forty four,
Speaker 6: fifty five, you can't get no single digit, no, but
Speaker 6: twenty four after question, man, they got so many numbers
Speaker 6: of the time. So look the only number they had
Speaker 6: that I could get with thirty one. So I rocked
Speaker 6: with thirty one. Yeah, you're at court, Brad Facks. Well, Jersey,
Speaker 6: it's my guy going bred.
Speaker 1: Hey.
Speaker 2: Look I'm in the raft, bes I after have Boston
Speaker 2: man thirty one.
Speaker 6: When I get traded to Phoenix, I'm trying to get
Speaker 6: twenty four, but I'm playing with Tom Googliata. Tom Googlada
Speaker 6: got twenty four, so I ain't even for they two four.
Speaker 6: You can go keep it right, just gonna I'm just
Speaker 6: gonna roll with this too. So I've been rocking with
Speaker 6: number two, uh, all the way through Atlanta, and then
Speaker 6: when I got to Brooklyn and I just changed it
Speaker 6: up and went to seven. Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm like, damn, Joe,
Speaker 6: Joe had by Hey, they couldn't fire Joe. They're like,
Speaker 6: what Joe, Joe's ever twenty four?
Speaker 5: Thirty one?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 6: Hey, listen, man, I wanted one of them single digits
Speaker 6: in Boston. Why, Like, when we getting drafted, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 6: what number can I get? Can I get number twenty four?
Speaker 6: They started showing me all the numbers that was retired.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, they got all Jones, Casey Jones, Hyson,
Speaker 1: Russell Bird, Dennis Johnson, they.
Speaker 2: Got Bob Coosey, they got Bill Sharmon. Hey, look they
Speaker 2: retire so mean numbers.
Speaker 1: Name I said, man, they got double z ro retired,
Speaker 1: they got what's the collor retired?
Speaker 2: They got Kevin McHale, I get cars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got double zero, thirty two, thirty three, I
Speaker 1: think Dennis Johnson.
Speaker 2: I think DJ was three, Yeah he was Johnson. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they got DJ. Yeah, they got DJ retired.
Speaker 1: They got Sam Jones, Casey Jones, Hamla check Cowen's.
Speaker 6: So anytime they got Bob PiZZ anytime y'all going to
Speaker 6: Boston Arena, y'all look up in the rafter thirty one
Speaker 6: up the baby.
Speaker 2: There's a nice old joke baby for you were sharing
Speaker 2: that thing.
Speaker 5: That's my man. You already know that's my man. Cord Bread.
Speaker 2: Yeah, graduation congraduation, all right?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 1: One was it like in the green room waiting back call.
Speaker 1: Did you have an idea that it could possibly be
Speaker 1: the Giants?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I definitely had a good feeling. My I usually
Speaker 9: trust my gut. My gut said in New York. My
Speaker 9: parents wanted to go to go to New York. So
Speaker 9: I'm a I'm a New York Giant. This You had
Speaker 9: a journey, you wanted to go play college football. That
Speaker 9: was your dream, probably Penning State, your dream, your dream
Speaker 9: college situation. Now it's a different journey, your journey to
Speaker 9: get here. Now the journey starts all over again to
Speaker 9: be great here? What has prepared you for this moment?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have to start with my dad?
Speaker 9: Is him training me my whole life, teaching me everything
Speaker 9: I know, all the work out, put in, all the
Speaker 9: sacrifices they made for me, and now it all starts again.
Speaker 2: I'm back to work backgrounding. I'm ready to get started.
Speaker 2: I like that. I got you.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about rookie year coming in, setting short term goals.
Speaker 3: What would your show, your short term goals be coming
Speaker 3: in to be a New York Giant? What do you
Speaker 3: what would you set?
Speaker 1: So far? I haven't read anything down yet, but I'm
Speaker 1: definitely gonna get some goals I want to accomplish.
Speaker 9: I'm usually like I'm big on that right now. My
Speaker 9: goal is chasing them, But I'm definitely gonna think about
Speaker 9: some things all night. You go to the Giants, Jazz
Speaker 9: always had really good defenses. Keevon Thibodeau on one side.
Speaker 9: You got big Lawrence in the middle that you on
Speaker 9: the other side. Have you thought about what is gonna
Speaker 9: be like that front? For that front seven trying to
Speaker 9: attack the quarterbacks in that division? You've got to washing
Speaker 9: the commanders.
Speaker 1: You got Jalen Hurst the Super Bowl depending Champ Giants
Speaker 1: with Sayt Karn Barkley and those talented wide receivers out there.
Speaker 1: And you got the Dallas Cowboys, Dak Prescott, Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 1: Jerry says he has some trades up his sleeve. We
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet. What have you thought about what
Speaker 1: your defense is gonna look like when you go out there?
Speaker 1: Your first ota is coming up.
Speaker 9: For sure, But first I just want to I want
Speaker 9: to meet those guys, get to know them as men,
Speaker 9: develop a relationship as a teammate.
Speaker 2: Then once I do that, we're gonna hit the field.
Speaker 2: Just create have it.
Speaker 1: You do realize now you've followed the guy you weren't
Speaker 1: at number eleven. You got to be a hair raiser.
Speaker 1: You put that jersey on in Penn State for a reason. Now,
Speaker 1: the last guy that came out of Penn State, that
Speaker 1: one that wore that jersey, he was a defensive rookie
Speaker 1: of the year. Have you said, you know, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you guys have a healthy competition, like, hey, you got it,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So what's your expectation that award?
Speaker 1: Would you like to Obviously you like to win it,
Speaker 1: but have you thought that far in advance what it
Speaker 1: would mean for you to go out.
Speaker 2: There and have that type of season?
Speaker 9: If I do everything I was supposed to do, pick
Speaker 9: the work in first all that's gonna come with it,
Speaker 9: thank youself. Yeah, we're good at the year. I want
Speaker 9: to be off pro ia wanta do it all. But
Speaker 9: at the end of the day, my man go, I
Speaker 9: want to win. It's gonna help my team win.
Speaker 2: Has it sunk in yet? You have this sunk in yet?
Speaker 2: For sure?
Speaker 5: Not yet?
Speaker 2: Crazy, it's gonna hit you, Yeah, it's gonna hit you.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: When you when you were a kid, you say your
Speaker 1: dad is training your whole life, and you train the lifetime.
Speaker 1: You prepare a lifetime for this moment. So you're sitting
Speaker 1: back there, you know you're going early. You just don't
Speaker 1: know where you're going. It could be Cleveland, it could
Speaker 1: be the Giants. You don't know, but you know I'm
Speaker 1: going early. It's not gonna be a low Hey, momy, Hey,
Speaker 1: you don't worry about the guys. We're gonna be out
Speaker 1: here in twenty minute. If I promise you thirty cops,
Speaker 1: I might not be twitted, but thirty times and we done.
Speaker 9: They was more nervous than me, but I had a
Speaker 9: pretty good felling where I was gonna go. So right,
Speaker 9: I'm happy to be a New York Giant, go big
Speaker 9: Blue live, and that's dope. That's dope.
Speaker 1: So now you get uh, obviously you're headed up there
Speaker 1: as soon as as soon as you leave us, you
Speaker 1: go to head up there, go around and meet the
Speaker 1: coaching staff, you know, meet the ownership, meet general manager. Problem,
Speaker 1: I don't know how long you're gonna be up there.
Speaker 1: You're gonna look for a place while you're up there,
Speaker 1: or you're gonna have that kind of time.
Speaker 9: Uh yeah, we're gonna have to figure all that out.
Speaker 9: But I really just want to go back celebrating my parents,
Speaker 9: my mom and my dad. Get him another hub that
Speaker 9: celebrate this moment. When you get back home, where are
Speaker 9: you from? I'm from Philly?
Speaker 2: Oh you.
Speaker 5: Right now? I'm on New York.
Speaker 2: I'm on the.
Speaker 5: Have you go?
Speaker 1: When you get back home in Philly, all your family,
Speaker 1: friends and loved ones that have known the dual Carter
Speaker 1: your entire life?
Speaker 2: What is that moment gonna be like?
Speaker 1: When you get with all your family, friends and loved
Speaker 1: ones and they get an opportunity to celebrate with you,
Speaker 1: because it takes a billities.
Speaker 2: To to raise that Buell Carter. If I can't wait,
Speaker 2: I'm real thankful for them.
Speaker 9: Everybody will want me to get you to this moment,
Speaker 9: and I can't wait to give back to knowing everybody
Speaker 9: that helped me get here, all the sacrifices people made.
Speaker 1: But I mean you, I was talking o you. I said,
Speaker 1: oh yo, even pomps, I stop this, Dad can let
Speaker 1: you out do me all? Do get me some fikee
Speaker 1: while you at it. The Pom's got a crill too. No,
Speaker 1: I A don't got you. You got to this shame
Speaker 1: on Yeah, okay, I know you, I know your mom.
Speaker 1: Your mom was like, she was really emotional back there.
Speaker 1: I saw I think that was your sister with also
Speaker 1: right now, Manu, and she was like, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: looking at your mom, and she was like, relieve.
Speaker 2: I'm sure she did a lot of praying for this moment. Yeah.
Speaker 9: Seeing her happy, seeing her problem me, That's that's my heart.
Speaker 9: Nothing give me more joy, none, None make me more happy.
Speaker 9: Seeing her happy for me.
Speaker 5: I like it.
Speaker 3: I just just thought about all the obscles, all that adversity,
Speaker 3: especially as your parents go through all the sacrifices they
Speaker 3: make to get to this point to actually be taking
Speaker 3: them back and actually making it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I'm just congratulates you and corretlates you in the family,
Speaker 3: and man, I wish you nothing but love and love.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: I appreciate Jochelle.
Speaker 1: You know you got to get a big, big old chick.
Speaker 1: That first check will be big. What's the first thing
Speaker 1: you're gonna do. I gotta take care of my people's first.
Speaker 1: Get my mom and my dad something nice. I'm definitely
Speaker 1: gonna get me some nice trick.
Speaker 2: Oh son.
Speaker 1: When you get something nice, you talking about a being
Speaker 1: here cool, you will get enough know the piece of eyes?
Speaker 2: What what you look at? That? Probably vehicle?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 9: What?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What's your dream vehicle?
Speaker 9: Probably something more low key? Already I already have my dream.
Speaker 9: My first car was my dream car?
Speaker 1: What was that?
Speaker 2: A Tesla Model X? But or just reg it, man,
Speaker 2: stop trying you man, what your fin to get?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 2: Stop talking about the Testlok, we'll see what happened. I
Speaker 2: want some more low key stay out the way, okay, man, okay,
Speaker 2: Oh you're trying to look at you look for a
Speaker 2: slider or.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: But what I mean? What do you?
Speaker 5: What do you? What do your mom?
Speaker 2: What do your mom and dad want? Do they want
Speaker 2: a new crib? Do they want vehicle? What do they want?
Speaker 2: Have you have your has come? Have they have you
Speaker 2: thought about it again? Whatever they want? That's all me.
Speaker 2: Yeah like that, like whatever she wants, it's all you.
Speaker 2: It's on me. What I want? You know what I want? No?
Speaker 5: Not you? Not you?
Speaker 10: Not what may wait? Slide you on the jersey or something,
Speaker 10: flick at something we do I can get your jersey.
Speaker 10: I just wanted I just want to from.
Speaker 2: We'll see. I don't I don't think I want eleven.
Speaker 2: But there's number I've got it.
Speaker 1: Noth in mind if anybody have it, because you know,
Speaker 1: you might have to get a bread if somebody got
Speaker 1: it and you got it.
Speaker 2: So who got elevens?
Speaker 1: You don't want to leven? No, A level was a
Speaker 1: Ping State thing. Actually, I'm starting from scrash. You gotta
Speaker 1: keep that thing going by. I want something new, double
Speaker 1: z ro, double z row. It's ain't plus Michael, Michael Levet.
Speaker 1: I ain't feel to do that. I did that at
Speaker 1: Ping State. We kept that lettage going. It's time for
Speaker 1: the duel.
Speaker 9: You gotta go single digit though, No, it's a double digit.
Speaker 9: If a double digit, it's retired, though, wist. I gotta
Speaker 9: have some conversations. As long as it ain't fifty six,
Speaker 9: you I can get it. But if it's fifty six,
Speaker 9: I don't know if you can get that one not.
Speaker 2: I love to hear that. You want a problem, LT.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens, Siel. Yeah, I'll feel a big
Speaker 1: shooting before I do it again.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: I like that because when they talk about the best
Speaker 1: defensive players ever, you never go past LT because you
Speaker 1: hear a lot of people say a bit. We talked
Speaker 1: about wide receiver it might be random. Might you talk
Speaker 1: about running backs? It might be buried in the or
Speaker 1: or Jim Brown or Walter Payton. You go to a
Speaker 1: lot of different when it come to defensive playoffs. One
Speaker 1: dude that said, yeah, hey, you go about it. He
Speaker 1: don't even go about a real name. You go by
Speaker 1: initials LT bad a duel matter. I'm so proud of
Speaker 1: your man. I'm watching your tape. I was looking at
Speaker 1: you at the bowl game and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: he just I mean, he beating these guys one move
Speaker 1: and then it's like, well, nah, he had a shoulder.
Speaker 1: His shoulder was messed up. Because man, you're ripped. I
Speaker 1: mean you tremitted that first step. You can turn, translate, speed,
Speaker 1: the power, you can do it. You could bend the edges.
Speaker 1: You got a great snatch arm, rip the pull. How
Speaker 1: did you get better? What I am doing? Party need
Speaker 1: to work on to get better. I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of ways I can get better.
Speaker 9: It was my first year in the new position, so
Speaker 9: I'm just getting started to Scott's dilemma.
Speaker 2: For me, I can just keep getting better. I can
Speaker 2: play tight end too, try out.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying he'd the only one would do it,
Speaker 2: but hey, try they put you on the goal line,
Speaker 2: you're gonna go catch you.
Speaker 5: Hell yeah.
Speaker 1: It put it out there in the universe the Giants.
Speaker 1: So obviously when you visited the Giants, you had a
Speaker 1: great conversation. What made you so sure? What made you
Speaker 1: feel comfortable that the Giants was the place that you're
Speaker 1: probably gonna end up?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I just trusting my gut. My gut told many Giants.
Speaker 9: My parents wanted me to go there.
Speaker 1: Because they cold by that they could drive up. They
Speaker 1: catch the fellow anytime they want. Yeah, So I just
Speaker 1: wanted a good connection with them. They got to know me,
Speaker 1: I got to know them. It was a perfect fix.
Speaker 1: I'm a New York Giant. You're getting season tickets for
Speaker 1: who you're all bobi day.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna miss a game for sure, I know them.
Speaker 1: Plus and plus when you Philly, they gonna see hey,
Speaker 1: and Washington is not that far away, so they gonna
Speaker 1: see you.
Speaker 2: Everything right at the time, but yeah, right there close unbelievable.
Speaker 2: When you was growing up, did you ever thank you
Speaker 2: a New York Giant?
Speaker 9: Fun fact, when I was twelve or thirteen years old,
Speaker 9: the dream I got drafted up by the Giants.
Speaker 2: But it's hard to believe. But actually had a dream.
Speaker 2: I got drafted here, So you didn't want to be
Speaker 2: in from Philly? Your dream want to play for the Eagles. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but they they had picked thirty two, they would have
Speaker 2: to trade up.
Speaker 1: Hey I'm doing saying hold your dad when I wouldn't
Speaker 1: try to be picked thirty two.
Speaker 2: I'm in New York, New York. Hey, the third pick
Speaker 2: in the draft. Hey, you got some up on mich Like, Hey, Broy,
Speaker 2: I ain't pay.
Speaker 1: I ain't want to brag or the glow of the boat,
Speaker 1: but you know you bought you almost And Lebar Lebarn
Speaker 1: went to.
Speaker 2: D he went too for sure. Three Yeah, and uh
Speaker 2: you know his needs war wore out on But Lamar
Speaker 2: was I was I illegue. Well, I was kind of
Speaker 2: telling of my career with Lebar.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The one thing, what thing you wear that level? You
Speaker 1: can't put that level owner if you ain't no hell reason.
Speaker 2: His son got it now, so we got we're gonna
Speaker 2: see what he do.
Speaker 9: But all those gods that look out for me, he
Speaker 9: took me under they wing, and I'm real thankful for
Speaker 9: those guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's unbelieved. That's unbelievable. And I'm so proud
Speaker 1: of y'all. Know your family is proud of you. That
Speaker 1: dual man face for coming we really appreciate because we know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Fay think.
Speaker 2: Mhter, I'm talling the guys. Don't forget each of McDonald's.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is your door, man. I think.
Speaker 1: It'd be interesting to see what what what you know
Speaker 1: social media has to say about about your about your
Speaker 1: door falling. No, it'll be interesting if mill Rod go
Speaker 1: before him. Oh my god, if mill Road go before him.
Speaker 1: But it's but it's but it's but it's possible. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's possible. I mean it's it's not like it's it's
Speaker 1: out of the realm of possibility.
Speaker 3: This has been a collective effort media GM's owners, but
Speaker 3: a simple fact they allowed.
Speaker 2: So so is it Becau. That's his last name, Sanders.
Speaker 2: That's what you're saying. There's no other reason. There's no
Speaker 2: other reason. I just turned the film on. I want
Speaker 2: my quarterback confident, because if you don't have that, he
Speaker 2: can't play. I don't care what the skill set is.
Speaker 5: I gotta have confidence. You got to be you just
Speaker 5: have to believe.
Speaker 1: Look in pro sports, you have to believe you the
Speaker 1: badest more for out here and I'm here for a reason. Now,
Speaker 1: you got to be mentally strong and not allowed the
Speaker 1: outside noise to get to you.
Speaker 2: And that's hard, man, that's hard.
Speaker 1: But I think that And plus, you can't go press
Speaker 1: now with y'all. Yeah, I can't show you what I
Speaker 1: can't show y'all what y'all missed in one game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's look at let's look at his.
Speaker 1: Let's look at the history of those Let's just say
Speaker 1: he and Milroe, just to throw out two names. He's
Speaker 1: always been the guy. He's always been the guy. He's
Speaker 1: never been challenged. I'm not saying that's good or bad.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's never had to show you that
Speaker 1: I am who you think I am or want me
Speaker 1: to be, right, Jaylen Milroe was about to be a DV.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: If I take your Door and put him at Alabama,
Speaker 1: and I take Milroe and put him at Colorado, you
Speaker 1: think Alabama has a better record or a worse record
Speaker 1: with your door, I'm gonna say a worse record because
Speaker 1: your door doesn't run enough or run more. Okay, I
Speaker 1: think with Milroe's legs, and I think he throws it
Speaker 1: accurately enough in college football to be for that team
Speaker 1: to be successful. If Nick Saban is still coaching, and
Speaker 1: no diss on coach to the board. But I just
Speaker 1: think that when you look at what Nick had him do,
Speaker 1: he was very good at what Jaylen Milroe is. I
Speaker 1: don't know if she doer could take an Alabama offense
Speaker 1: because he doesn't run enough, doesn't use it. College football
Speaker 1: is all about the legs, man, you got to you
Speaker 1: gotta use those legs. Melroy ain't running in Colorado with
Speaker 1: that offensive liabe, No, Melury would have been running. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he would have been running. He rung on complete seventy
Speaker 1: four percent of his throws. I know that he might
Speaker 1: not have ten touchdowns behind that office line.
Speaker 2: I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I agree with that you'll have a file of yards rushing, though,
Speaker 1: or two thousand yards Russia.
Speaker 3: I kind of I kind of disagree a little bit
Speaker 3: with Obviously they're in Alabama. Just say if hypothetically, if
Speaker 3: the players is switched, there's no Travis Hunter in Alabama.
Speaker 2: But I think collectively as a group.
Speaker 1: Williams ain't bad though. No, no, no, but but but
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Seeing that, you gotta look at
Speaker 1: how the conference is built.
Speaker 2: It is built.
Speaker 1: You say all the Georgia, you say all the d
Speaker 1: all the d lib with edge Russias. You gotta be
Speaker 1: able to.
Speaker 2: Move a quarterback Georgia, old miss.
Speaker 1: I mean you gotta be able to move in You
Speaker 1: gotta be able to move. If you look at all
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in the SEC, they can throw.
Speaker 4: Even if he can't do it with his legs. He's
Speaker 4: a better throw of the ball than the row is.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but we're gonna attack that weakness. See that.
Speaker 1: See when you're a dual threat, it's hard to attack
Speaker 1: a weakness because we don't know which one it is.
Speaker 1: But if you can't run, you're gonna be standing back there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're getting to that. Our conference is built
Speaker 1: on getting to that, right. Got just a interesting situation though,
Speaker 1: If you had to put some money, what do you
Speaker 1: think you're doing them? Now, here's the thing I'm going
Speaker 1: with the rams. I'm staying. The shock is gonna be
Speaker 1: if he slides out of the second round. We already
Speaker 1: we surprised that he slid out of the first round.
Speaker 1: We would be shocked.
Speaker 2: I gassed.
Speaker 4: But if he slide again, I wouldn't even know have
Speaker 4: to say.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even know what to say.
Speaker 5: The volume