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Speaker 1: regular guest, this is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All right,

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Speaker 1: Welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here at Jules Stadium,

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Speaker 1: and we're coming off a loss to the Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 1: and uh, a lot of anxiety coming out of that loss,

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Speaker 1: not because of the team, but of course I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about the injury to Mac Jones. And it's unclear as

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Speaker 1: a severe high ankle spring. Pretty pretty severe, pretty severe,

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Speaker 1: very severe. Nah. Yeah, but on the severe spectrum, it's

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Speaker 1: according to Mac, he's just taking a day to day,

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Speaker 1: just getting treatment day by day. Yeah. That was That

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Speaker 1: was a classic press conference that he had yesterday on Zoom.

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Speaker 1: yeah I like it. Um. But getting back to what

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Speaker 1: we were talking about, Yeah, the game. You know, I

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Speaker 1: and he to me, he summed it up though in

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Speaker 1: terms of the game itself, I didn't come out of

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Speaker 1: they did going in. You know, yeah, I would agree,

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Speaker 1: They at least had something for Lamar. They made him

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Speaker 1: where's the progress? Band? Like that's what you're itching for,

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Speaker 1: Like it's just killing yourself with the mistakes. And I

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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly? Is Max so tough that what would cause

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Speaker 1: I don't. I just think in general, a point and

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, and this one was the most egregious on

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Speaker 1: the goal line that he hit Patrick Queen right in

425
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Speaker 1: the six. Like, those are throws that he didn't do

426
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,959
Speaker 1: last year, and those were all short throws. Those are

427
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Speaker 1: inside of ten yards and all three and I'm saying

428
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 1: those are throws he would have done last year had

429
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 1: he'd been not protected. I mean, I think those are

430
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 1: all short throws that he made last year. Constantly, this

431
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. I'm not judging him on missing

432
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 1: a guy on a bomb like the bomb to Parker. Yeah,

433
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 1: he was he protected away from making that throw last year.

434
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 1: You're right. I think that's why I think it's a

435
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 1: semantics thing. I think there were definitely things that he

436
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: was protected from last year. But I also think Mike

437
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 1: is right, and there are things that he did last

438
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 1: year that he's not doing as well this year. Yeah,

439
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 1: I think he's being asked to think more and I

440
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: think that that contributes to those mistakes that you're talking about.

441
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 1: And that's why I think he might again might be

442
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 1: beneficial to just sit, sit and watch and stop putting

443
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 1: the weight of the cold take a ball on himself

444
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: all the time, but take up breath. But how do

445
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: you view the interceptions. I think that that's probably the

446
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 1: area that drill down on because I don't I wouldn't

447
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: necessarily fault those entirely on scheme. I mean, I know

448
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: there are communication issues on the Parker one in the

449
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: end zone, but you know those are plays you didn't

450
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: see him really make last year. That It's hard to

451
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 1: really pin completely on the offensive design. It's just it's

452
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: about mental the mental mistakes that throw to me, he

453
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: has to he has to throw that away. I think

454
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 1: last year he would have thrown that away. I don't

455
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Speaker 1: think you would have thrown it to the back corner

456
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: and said, let me see if my guy can go

457
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: get it and make a play. Well, I mean to

458
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: you a point, I mean, and I would I would say,

459
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: I'd almost prefer better communication before the snap to recognize

460
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: that you got a zero blitz coming and somebody's got

461
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: to get open like right away, and Nelson agil Are

462
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: cutting in the middle, needs to get his head around

463
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: and you know that's probably the place to go with

464
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: the ball. But you know, I just it's hard to

465
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: parse out what's max, what's max fault, what's the offense's fault,

466
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: you know what what are what are the receivers? You know,

467
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: not getting separation enough, Like it's hard to do it

468
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: right now. But I just that those are the plays

469
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: that I look out of the turnovers, because those are

470
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Speaker 1: the decisions that you didn't see him make last year.

471
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 1: And when he came in here, you thought he's not

472
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: going to make the critical mistakes that are going to

473
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Speaker 1: cost you the game. And I think that's what he

474
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: did in this game on the interception he threw in

475
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: the end zone intended for Parker. Yeah, so there's a

476
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 1: lot of footage now of him like being really angry,

477
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: not at himself on the sideline, but yelling at somebody else.

478
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: So I don't know what was going on. I think

479
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: he was yelling like I couldn't I was trying to

480
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 1: read his lips. At first, I was wondering if he

481
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: was arguing with somebody about the play called what do

482
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: we call that for? But watching it more and then

483
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: talking to some of the football guys, Um, they were

484
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: in cover four? And I heard Christian and talking about

485
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: this yesterday Fourier with and Wiggy talked about in the morning.

486
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: Fourier followed up with it. And then I talked to

487
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: his Zola last night a little bit about it, and yeah,

488
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: he thought it was They were right, it was cover four.

489
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: So now, like, what do we call that for? They

490
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: were in cover four? Like you could see, like you

491
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: could read the lips and they could cover four. What

492
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: are we doing? You know? What do we do? You know?

493
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: I think that he was. I think Parker made a mistake.

494
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,479
Speaker 1: I don't think Parker was where he was supposed to be.

495
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: I think he didn't read the coverage the same way

496
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 1: Mac did. And I always always always side with the

497
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: quarterback on reading coverage. Um did Parker before the snap too?

498
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: Kind of like a confused look someone someone had had

499
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: had into hated that and that has been an issue

500
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: in some of these games with Parker pre snap. Now

501
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: I know that we got lost, you know, five for one,

502
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:15,719
Speaker 1: fifty six, great game. There's there's still something to me missing. Now.

503
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: The one thing I'll say about Parker, I'm gonna give

504
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 1: him his due because I was very critical of this.

505
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: He was open. Only one of those uh five catches

506
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: was a contested catch, yet a beautiful Maybe the best

507
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,479
Speaker 1: throw that I've ever seen mac Jodan's bake was the

508
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: throw on the back shoulder on the sideline in front

509
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: of the Ravens bandle. Yeah, that was a laser. That

510
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: was a really good throw. The other throws, the other plays,

511
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: Parker got open, so I want to you know, I've

512
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: been critical of his ability to uncover. He got opened

513
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: and made big plays down the field. But at the

514
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: same time, I believe he's been targeted fourteen times this year.

515
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: He's at least he's just about the same percentage to

516
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: catch it, to have it incomplete, or to have it intercepted.

517
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: He's got six catches, four times intended for him were

518
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: picked off and four times incomplete. Those aren't good numbers.

519
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: No spinning the dial. There were out of three fifty three, um.

520
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: And then we get, you know, into what you were

521
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: talking about earlier. You know, little Jordan Humphrey out there,

522
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: the number of reps he's getting as opposed to Kendrick Bourne.

523
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: And you know what the benefit is of having Humphrey

524
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: on the field as opposed to Born And does that

525
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: outweigh you know what's going on? You know, Um most

526
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: people I've been listening to say no, that you need

527
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: to get Born out there more. Um, there, there can't

528
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,479
Speaker 1: be that much more of an advantage with Humphrey, you know,

529
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 1: changing it from twelve personnel to twenty two personnel. You know,

530
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: you know that having Born out there, you know, I agree, Yeah, Well,

531
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: I think the numbers interesting to me. It's just I

532
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: think it's it's Johnny Smith, Hunter Henry Little Jordan played

533
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: one one hundred and thirty two snaps combined and had

534
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: six targets combined, and Bourne played what like nineteen and

535
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: had six targets. So you know, not to say, oh,

536
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 1: we'll just target those guys more, but it's just I

537
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 1: think it just shows you're not getting any production out

538
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: of the guys you're playing. And and I also think

539
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: Bourne has like kind of skated on the fact that

540
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: he fumbled it. I know it was at the end

541
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: of the game, But I still think it's significant that

542
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: he put the ball on the ground and was respond

543
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on on that last

544
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: interception that Mac threw, where he seemed to just kind

545
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: of stop and Mac just kind of threw it up.

546
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it didn't look like they were on but

547
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: like somehow when you recover your own fumble, they don't count. Yeah,

548
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: Like I agree with you, like something to consider everybody

549
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: that's banging the burns or I'm like, you know, we

550
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: talk about mistakes like, you know, that's that's something it was,

551
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: you know some Mike's point, it was eighteen snaps and

552
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: five targets. Yeah, so clearly, like to me, if for

553
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: no other reason he likes Mac likes throwing to him. Well,

554
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 1: if there's a common theme with the mistakes, it's that

555
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: they're all making them, right, Yes, you know they're they're

556
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: all making them. It's not just one guy or one

557
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: side of the ball or one position group. They're all

558
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: making them. That's why it's so hard to like drill

559
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: down on these issues because at the end of the day,

560
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: even in that game where they maybe played forty five

561
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: minutes of the game pretty solid, like you know, overall.

562
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's Lamar Jackson. I know he's gonna

563
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: make some plays, but you know, you just are. Now

564
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm getting to the point where I just don't know

565
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: how different this season is from the last two seasons,

566
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: Like what the last three seasons, Like, what's really been

567
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: all that different between these teams? Like right now, they

568
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: all kind of seem similar to me that when it

569
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: goes great, it's a crappy team. They're gonna shoot themselves.

570
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah we're gonna we're gonna handle them. But anytime there's

571
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: a team with a pulse, lately, we can't get out

572
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: of our own way. We get bad starts we're making.

573
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: You know, it's just the mistakes and that's the recurring

574
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: issue that until they clean up, what else really matters.

575
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: When you're gonna throw three interceptions in the fourth quarter,

576
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: like you're gonna lose every game with that, right, you

577
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: get four turnovers in the second half, probably gonna lose

578
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: the game. But I think just as just it's worth mentioning,

579
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: is like just sort of forget the turnovers. It's it

580
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: just seems like it's a different pattern all the time

581
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: when they lose, And that to me can be harder

582
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: to fix, you know. So this game, the offense, I

583
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: thought this was the best offensive game that they've had,

584
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: like in three it's only three games, but I thought

585
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: this was the best. They moved away at over four

586
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: hundred yards, you know, twenty six points. You know, it's

587
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: not like the you know, the the O seven Patriots,

588
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: but twenty you know, I'll take twenty six points most games.

589
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: You should have a chance. And they might have hit thirty,

590
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, if they hadn't had the turnovers, you know, sure, yeah, no,

591
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: but I'm just I'm just sort of looking at it.

592
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: So they score a touchdow like they you know, and

593
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: Fred was on this, We talked about it Sunday in

594
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: the post game. They got the double score, the old

595
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: school double score, right, So they scored coming out of

596
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: the locker room and take the twenty to fourteen lead,

597
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: and they go right down the field, seventy five yards

598
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: right down the field, and it's twenty one twenty, you know,

599
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: like you get to stop there. And I think there

600
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: was a third and five earlier in that drive caught

601
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: a crosser for like twenty yards. You have a chance,

602
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: twenty to fourteen, we have the ball. I don't think

603
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: the Patriots had the ball with the lead in the game.

604
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: I don't think they ever had the ball in the

605
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: league right because every time they took the lead, they

606
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: coughed it right up. That's not like, that's not the

607
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: kind of complimentary football that twenty years of dominance was

608
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 1: built upon. And this is what you know. I had

609
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: nothing to do with turnovers, had nothing to do with

610
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: those kinds of things. Just like we lined up. We

611
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,239
Speaker 1: had a juncture in the game that was important. We

612
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: all know Bill's taught us this many times. There's one

613
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty players in the game. There's only a

614
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: handful of them that truly impact the game. And it

615
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: seems like those players are not going the Patriots way

616
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: more often than not. And then the sneaky injury was

617
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: Lawrence Guy. I mean, I don't know, he's got a shoulder,

618
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: which you know, I don't know how bad it is,

619
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: but you need him. It's even with Green Bay. You

620
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: think Aaron Rodgers, you think throwing, that's not the case. Yeah. No,

621
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: they like to run. Yeah, they liked to run. Aaron

622
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: Jones is a good runner. You know, Rogers didn't putting

623
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: up points. Yeah, I mean that last game with fourteen

624
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: to twelve. You know. Yeah, it's another another thing that

625
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 1: you know, and listen the second half. It there's this

626
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: notion defensively, I'm gonna you know, I've been saying a

627
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: lot of good things about the Patriots. I thought they

628
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: did a lot of things well and you know, unfortunately

629
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: the mistakes killed him. There's this notion that the Patriots

630
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: played really well defensively in the first half and then

631
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: it all fell apart in the second. It's not true.

632
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: They played bad in the first half, in just a

633
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: lot worse than the second half. And with Lawrence Guy,

634
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: they averaged six point two yards to carry, by the way,

635
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: ten carries for sixty two yards in the first half,

636
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Speaker 1: and that includes a one rush for minus four for

637
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: Deveron DuVernay, which doesn't have anything to do with the front.

638
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: That was a jet sweep that they sniffed out. So

639
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: I think they missed Lawrence Guy. I think that was

640
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: a big, big absence. The bigger problem. To me, we

641
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: still got a linebacker issue. Yeah, we've still got a

642
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: but again, I think that's it's a lamar thing too.

643
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: Like I just the Ravens are so unique. Ma Mack

644
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: Wilson was in a blender the whole game. He didn't

645
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: know where to look. That all their misdirection stuff, he's

646
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: going the wrong way. Joan Bentley unfortunately, same kind of thing.

647
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think Lawrence Guy actually and

648
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: and Gotcha played pretty well at least at their points,

649
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: but it didn't really matter because they've got you know,

650
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: they're pulling two guys from one side of their line,

651
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: and Lamar's kind of just picking his hole and you've

652
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: got second level guys who can't read through it. Now

653
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: this like, I don't think that there's maybe ten teams

654
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: in the league that have the guys that can do that,

655
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: but the Patriots certainly, but they don't team that really

656
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: was all about Lamar running the ball, and they got

657
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: and they got well with other guys running the ball

658
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: in this game. And I agree with you. I think

659
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: that the performance dropped off after Lawrence Guy left, so

660
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: like it was better when Lawrence Guy was in there.

661
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: They couldn't stop anything once he left. Yeah, Um, so

662
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: that's a that's a significant issue, and I agree with it. Also,

663
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: his point about mac Wilson is dead on too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: also the style that Baltimore was showing was different in

665
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: the second half. Well, I think they started. I think

666
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: he was pulling it more in the second half. And

667
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: that's the other thing. If you had told me he

668
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: was going to get a hundred yards, I would have

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Speaker 1: said he did a great job of getting out of

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Speaker 1: the pocket and making plays on passing down a design runs.

671
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: Almost almost all of them would design runs. I think

672
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones provided some clarity yesterday. He said they kind

673
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: of came out and they were spread and they weren't

674
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Speaker 1: really running it at first, and we had some success

675
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: about it. But as soon as they kind of went

676
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: to the read option with the quarterback and they started

677
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: putting the full back on and they're pulling alignment with him.

678
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's that combination of power with the speed

679
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: of Lamar and it's just it's devastating and they I mean,

680
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: there were just so many times where it looked like, oh,

681
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: they should have this snuffed out, and he's just so good. Yeah,

682
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: and he just weeks through everybody. You know, it's a

683
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: different animal. And the other thing is two things that

684
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Speaker 1: stood out to me. Number one is this is like

685
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: this point about like yeah, they started off with yeah

686
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: and again and This is like why I still think

687
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: Belichick is one of the best, if not still the

688
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: best coach in football, because they're almost always ready to

689
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: do that. Then what happens when the other team says, Okay,

690
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: if we just do this and this, they won't be

691
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: able to and they were overwhelmed because I think the

692
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: other team was better. The other thing that really stood

693
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 1: out to me was Patrick Ricard was absolutely did you

694
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: see that clip on Judeon Oh my god, some of

695
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: the blocks he was he was throwing down. Yeah, he's

696
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: a he's a house, He's a house. And Andy Hart.

697
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: Andy Hart was he probably had a tear in his

698
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: eye watching some of those clips. Um, And I think

699
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: you guys are right. I think that they said, we

700
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: don't have to do it that way, we can just

701
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: line up and do it this way. And they had

702
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: some success with hill Uh Dobbins didn't have good numbers,

703
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: but I thought he gave them a little bit of

704
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: a lift coming off of a year plus absence. They

705
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: ran the ball with their running backs better than they

706
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: have in any game so far. Now. On the flip side,

707
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: looks like their defense is kind of what it was

708
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter because they had problems. And here's

709
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: where I want to talk about the play calling and stuff.

710
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: We're critical of some individual play calls. I'm going to

711
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: give the Patriots offense some credit here and their game plan.

712
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: They clearly said we're going to attack the third and

713
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: fourth corners. We're not going to make a living attacking

714
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: Marlin Humphrey in Marcus Peters, and they got Humphrey. I mean,

715
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: Parker matched up against their third string cornerback and they

716
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: they really won that battle from what it was. I

717
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: think it was justin armor Davis who started the game

718
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: and then he left and they put a couple other

719
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: guys on him, Stevens, I think in Williams and those guys.

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00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: You know, Parker was getting open against those guys, and

721
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: that's the matchup that they tried to exploit, and you

722
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: didn't see a whole I mean, maybe it would have

723
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: been different with if Myers had played. Maybe they still

724
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: would have just gone to Myers. But give the Patriots

725
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: coaches credit. They searched out a matchup and they found

726
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: one that was to their benefit. Yeah, and I thought

727
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: Stevenson had a good game. I mean, Stevenson was solid.

728
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: There's plenty of bright spots in the game. It's just

729
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: that the mistakes just killed him, you know, killed the

730
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: bright spots. You know. It's like, why are we talking

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00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: about good game by Stevenson when you know, down the

732
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: stretch they couldn't they couldn't get it done. But but

733
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: he had a good game. Obviously we talk about Parker

734
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: having a good game. I think the old line may

735
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: have regressed a little bit. I think in the run

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00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: game they played okay, That's why I thought Stevenson was

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00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: so good. Yeah, I thought Stevenson got a lot of

738
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: that on his own. Yeah. Yeah. Tough tough day for

739
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: Cold Strange against Lais Campbell, who of course has been

740
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: destroying people for over you know, Paul, I mean, what

741
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: is going on with the linebackers? I mean, why o'she?

742
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: What's he doing out there? I mean I don't hear

743
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: his name. Uh, he's he's back down to like, you know,

744
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: like very specific duty, you know. Um, you know Bentley,

745
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: I mean, he's an okay player, but he's he's not

746
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: Dante Hi Town. I like him. I like him too,

747
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: but like he's not he's not like when you're a

748
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: defensive Player of the Year anytime soon, you know, now

749
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: he is what he is, and I think it's a

750
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: little bit exposed against a guy like Lamar Jackson. But

751
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, I think some of the stuff we've talked

752
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: about in the shows over the last couple of years

753
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: was like, oh, against Baltimore, you need a guy like Ouch,

754
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: or you need a mobile linebacker like mack Wilson. You know,

755
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: like you're saying, these are the prototypes that you need

756
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: to deal with these kind of teams. And then Ouch

757
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: doesn't even really play, and then you know, mac Wilson

758
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: looked like the years in Cleveland again. You know, like

759
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: Mia Colpa I said, you know, this could be a

760
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: good game for mac Wilson to show off that speed

761
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: at least stay in the vicinity of Lamar when he runs,

762
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: and like you said, he was in a blender. He

763
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: didn't know which way to go. And now we find

764
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: out why mac Wilson was available, you know, because he's

765
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: not consistent and you know, instinctually, maybe he doesn't always

766
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: make the right decision on every play. You know, that's

767
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: you know, we laugh at people like Zach Thomas who

768
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: were like tackle machines. He made up for not have

769
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: the physical ability with his speed and his instincts. He

770
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: just had a nose for the ball. Um. You have

771
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: to have that if you're not a big linebacker, you know,

772
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 1: you have to be able to make the first move

773
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: you're the right move, or else you're going to be

774
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: out of the play. Yeah, I think it was I

775
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: think it was a good job by the Ravens to

776
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: recognizing guy like Jabrill Pepper's pain a lot. I think,

777
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, I know he is one of my guys,

778
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: but he's another one that's in there with the struggle. Bussed.

779
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: The missed, they missed, and I know everyone says it

780
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: and it's true, but man, you miss one guy. I mean,

781
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: if that's what your defense is, then you don't really

782
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: have a solid defense, right, you know. And it's like this,

783
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: there was a lot of snickering about Buffalo. Oh well,

784
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: I guess they're not going to go seventeen and they

785
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: lost six starters and the tremendous defensively, right, they hung

786
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: in there. Like one of the touchdowns they allowed was

787
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: the strip sack inside the five. Yeah, they really only

788
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: allowed fourteen points. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that's

789
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: why Dorsey the five two hundred. Yeah, he was so

790
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: upset after the because he knew it was a game

791
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: they should have had, right, let me come on. But

792
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: I think they might they might like sometimes there's too

793
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: much and I think by the end of the game

794
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: they were down thirteen starters. Now, I don't know how

795
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: many of those guys are going to be projected to

796
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 1: come back. I know that Micah Hyde will not. Um,

797
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: that's a lot of that's a lot of injuries to

798
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: deal with it. Yeah, yeah, all right, five five Pats

799
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: five hundred is the Ace ticket hut line web radio

800
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com. It's the email address. I'm sure

801
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of microtopics that we haven't touched down

802
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: that you want to. So here's your chance. We'll start

803
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: off with the Ace ticket hut line. We'll go to

804
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: Brandon in Oregon. What's up, Brandon? Hey, what's up? Guys?

805
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: About to doing today? Okay? Pretty good? Run on. Hey,

806
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: So I got a little game for you guys. Just

807
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of hypothetical, but I think you guys have

808
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: some fun with it. Um, I don't really know. I

809
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: don't remember off the top of my head with the

810
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: cap situation was like a few years ago. But like

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Speaker 1: Paul says, the cap is craft, though, let's just play

812
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: along here, Okay. So when Stafford was available, when the

813
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: Lions traded them, I believe that was the year that

814
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: we signed Cam Newton in the off season. So would

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Speaker 1: you guys rather the Patriots have given up what the

816
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: Rams gave up to get Stafford? I believe it was

817
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: two ones in a two or whatever the draft picks were.

818
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: Do you think we would be better off right now

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00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: had we acquired Stafford at that time or things played

820
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: out just how they have. Well, if right now, maybe

821
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: they would be better with Stafford, but not long term.

822
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the Rams were in a completely different position

823
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: than the Patriots. They were they had the ingredients, they

824
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: just needed the quarterback, so they made a good decision.

825
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: I would tend to agree with Fred, but I need

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Speaker 1: to have a definition of long term, well like the

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Speaker 1: next five to ten years. Then I'd rather have Stafford, okay,

828
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Speaker 1: because I don't think, yeah, Mac Jones is gonna be

829
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: the quarterback in five to ten years. Okay, I tend

830
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: to agree. I think that with Bilichick's being towards the end,

831
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: I think picking up a veteran quarterback like that would

832
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: have given us a better chance to win before Bill retire.

833
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, the Rams were ready to win with

834
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Speaker 1: good quarterback play. I'm not sure that. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: last year's Patriots team was in the simile. Like, in

836
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Speaker 1: other words, if you went Stafford onto the team as

837
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Speaker 1: it was, would you have a chance. Yeah. I think

838
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: they might have won a couple more games, and it

839
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: certainly would have been more dangerous. Yeah, like going to Buffalo.

840
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Speaker 1: Let's just say it played out the same. Going to

841
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo with Stafford would have given you much more of

842
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: a chance than with Matt. Yeah, you would have only

843
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: lost by fifteen points instead of thirty, probably if your

844
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Speaker 1: defense played the same. No, if your defense played the same. Yeah,

845
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Speaker 1: I mean I would agree we would have won a

846
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Speaker 1: super Bowl, but the last couple of years we had

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Speaker 1: Stafford instead. I'm not saying that. I just think right now,

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Speaker 1: this season and obviously the team, the makeup of the

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Speaker 1: team would be totally different than it is. So well,

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Speaker 1: like I said, it's hypothetical, but I just think this year,

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Speaker 1: next year, and maybe even the one after that, we'd

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Speaker 1: be in such a better place to win. I got

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Speaker 1: one more thing I can't argue. I mean, Paul, this

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Speaker 1: is you know you just said the linebackers are still craped. Dude,

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Speaker 1: this is what you've been asking for. We finally got

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Speaker 1: rid of finally got rid of Call, and finally got

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Speaker 1: rid of all these guys that he said sucked and

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Speaker 1: we're too old. And you're putting a lot of words

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Speaker 1: in my mouth. I don't think I said anybody sucked,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think I said that the linebackers now

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Speaker 1: were crap. I said they were a problem on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: like I thought Mike did a good job of explaining.

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Speaker 1: Mac Wilson was quote in a blender um he had

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Speaker 1: he had some struggles. Yeah, and just because I didn't

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Speaker 1: want the old guys that they had, I didn't suggest

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Speaker 1: not replacing them at all was the answer. I thought

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Speaker 1: they would get one in the draft. I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe you go out and get something other than a

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Speaker 1: cast off in mac Wilson and a guy coming off

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Speaker 1: a twenty acl and ray Kuan McMillan, Like I wanted

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Speaker 1: to do more at the position than that. And I

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Speaker 1: think it speaks volumes that they had Jamie Collins back

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Speaker 1: in for a workout last week, like they're obviously they're

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Speaker 1: obviously wondering where they're gonna get But I just don't

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Speaker 1: think it would have looked all that much better with

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Speaker 1: Dante High Tower and Kyle Van Noil on Sunday. No,

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Speaker 1: that that's where I would be. I wonder you would

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Speaker 1: have been heavier up front and if it would, if

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Speaker 1: it would have, you know, I have to go back

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Speaker 1: and look at the twenty twenty game. But does that

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Speaker 1: give you more stout play up front? I mean, no

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Speaker 1: high towers out, but you know what I mean, like

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Speaker 1: maybe if you had to do it over, you're playing

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Speaker 1: a little bit more big guys and you can do this,

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Speaker 1: So I know you can do this. What was the

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Speaker 1: biggest difference between the twenty twenty game and Sunday and

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Speaker 1: whether I just thank you? I was hoping to get

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Speaker 1: him a little more worked up than he actually got. No,

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Speaker 1: but I like it. I don't like you, so I

890
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Speaker 1: don't get worked up. Thanks Brandon, appreciate the call. Go Ducks.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of guys, we like Eldred's in North Carolina? What's up, Eldred?

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Speaker 1: Hey Bell's how y'all doing today? Good good? I'm doing

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Speaker 1: for the A'm a little optimistic, but then again I'm

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Speaker 1: not what do stop it? I heard you on the

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Speaker 1: target tidy ends and this isn't it. I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 1: it again. It might be good at call him players

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Speaker 1: right now, but they're not really good at arch checking

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Speaker 1: because he's part of that. Because I didn't care for

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Speaker 1: I thought he got torched on the touchdown and you

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Speaker 1: only was in Andrews ran right back. He was only

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Speaker 1: in the in the play because the throw was underthrown

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Speaker 1: there right. Yeah, he was there when the ball came down,

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Speaker 1: but Andrews was behind him. Andrews right you saw at

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Speaker 1: the goal you're going by the catch. The catch is

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Speaker 1: exactly how Andrews ran right by. He was wide open

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Speaker 1: because Andrews made the good catch. Yeah, well but that's

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Speaker 1: about it. But I hope Matt gets better. And uh,

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Speaker 1: like I said, I'm yes, let get here. Okay, thanks Aldred.

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Speaker 1: Jackson again all by himself in the backfield and the

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Speaker 1: He's gonna run it up. He's gonna run over, touchdown

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Speaker 1: for Andrews and he brings it down over Devin McCarty,

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Speaker 1: ten for the Pats. From the thirty five shaper staff

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Speaker 1: That passes part by board. He's tackling the open field

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Speaker 1: off the forty three and the Patriots take their final

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Speaker 1: time out with eight seconds to go, short motion by Humphrey.

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Speaker 1: One receiver left snap back to Jones stands alone. He

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Speaker 1: throws it on the near side to get five. Barn

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Speaker 1: one seconds to go. The Cardona snap the Bailey is low.

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Speaker 1: the board to draw within one of the break on

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Speaker 1: the field. Go by Fool takes a low snap, backs up,

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Speaker 1: stands in throws a low ball down lost time for DeVante.

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Speaker 1: There's a flag gias the catch and he brings it

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Speaker 1: Matt drops fat, slides up fire for Parkner back shows

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Speaker 1: the catch and tuned. It won't do first, it gonna go.

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Speaker 1: What a throw by Matt Jones the staff, but give

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Speaker 1: me to dive, but a touchdown. Patriottes, that's where you

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Speaker 1: counter right there. Gray trot to start the third quarter,

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Speaker 1: Now second ago to go. Jackson turns playfing he's looking

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Speaker 1: a throw and he slings one unto the end zone,

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Speaker 1: caught by Oliver. Another tight end with a touchdown for Baltimo.

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Speaker 1: Order to snap the Jackson fats up, throws a lot

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Speaker 1: Bryant a touchdown for the Ravens to increase the league.

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Speaker 1: That's a gorgeous throw. Absolutely gorgeous throw by Jackson. Jones

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Speaker 1: Killer takes the snap, takes it to Stevens and looks

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Speaker 1: running left, finds Johnny Smip. Is it out in my

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Speaker 1: not Blue go his bumble picked up fight Jebroe Peppers

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Speaker 1: lumps in the middle of the ba pasta forty New

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00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: England has a takeaway of the toad here in the

1057
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: second half, takes the staff the back pedals, he's pressured.

1058
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: Throws a lot to the ends up for Carker that

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00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: can get accepted by Humprey the back corner of the

1060
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: end zone. So the Ravens gave it away, then they

1061
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: took it away. Jones takes a step, stands it throws

1062
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: down the middle gold cap by head car runs away

1063
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: to the forty five morty Hoss, creeping behind by hump

1064
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: break and the walls of the near side. It is

1065
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: picked up by Marcus Peters. Did he recomber in battle?

1066
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 1: He did? Jackson works from the gun of a hill

1067
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: to his right. He takes the head high staff. He

1068
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: takes inside. He runs it from the It's at Jackson

1069
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: across the five, hit the waist, but he dives in

1070
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: for the score. Text down Baltimore. Jones waits on the staff.

1071
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: I'll get off another play. He dropped back in the pocket.

1072
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: He throws one to the right scene and missus born

1073
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: and finds Marcus Peters. The slides with an interception and

1074
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: for Baltimore and Jones is her. Matt Jones is hurt.

1075
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 1: He's popping off the field on his right foot, unable

1076
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: to reach the forest sideline before Jim Whale and the

1077
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: Patriots trainer comes down to me to matter a meaningless

1078
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: chuck and duck player as Lamar Jackson takes the final

1079
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: knee to seal it for Baltimore by the thirty seven

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00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 1: twenty six score. But the outcome of the game secondary

1081
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: right now in terms of the standard the Patriots, because

1082
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 1: the quarterback Matt Jones hit on his last throw, resulting

1083
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: in an interception, glass pavel coming down on his left leg,

1084
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: Jones injuring it appear the lower left letting popping off

1085
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: the field. Hold our breath and hopefully the best case scenario.

1086
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: All right, that's the mashup. Is that the Matt Morrel

1087
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: or the Matt Lapan mashup this week, I want to

1088
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: give Lapan credit. Good mashup. It's tough to do in

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Speaker 1: a loss, you know, yeah, a little tougher you know.

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Speaker 1: You know what also is tough driving with bad tires.

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Speaker 1: ad took a little bit of a curve. It starts

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Speaker 1: The main thing is get your Bridgestone tires at Sullivan Tire.

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Speaker 1: You walked them right into it. They didn't know what

1100
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Speaker 1: they were what they were in for. What is this

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00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: useful information which Fred is sharing with us. Ah, Yes,

1102
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: I might have to go get some tires soon, I think. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you start to get you start to starting to look

1104
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Speaker 1: a little worn down. Maybe, Yeah, there's like a penny

1105
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: thing you could do. You put the penny in and

1106
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Speaker 1: if it gets up to his chin or something, or

1107
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Speaker 1: it doesn't get up to his chin, then you have

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Speaker 1: to replace it or the winner. You gotta keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on that, something like put the snow tires on,

1110
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Speaker 1: put the chains on. Yeah, not anymore. No, they've got

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Speaker 1: tires for everything. Yep, all right, five five pats five

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Speaker 1: hundred is the ACE ticket. Hut Line web radio at

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00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: patriot dot com is the email address. Um, let me

1114
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: see there was one email that I wanted to read. Oh,

1115
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of emails, M Paul. Oh yeah, this

1116
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: is from Sean. He says he's from Melbourne, Australia. Finally

1117
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: caught up on last week's show, and while I usually

1118
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 1: agree with Paul, had to call him out a little

1119
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: for not allowing the advice you guys always give of

1120
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: looking at what they do and not what they say. Thursday,

1121
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: Paul said, fifty fifty contested catches isn't what Bill likes

1122
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: to do, but for about five years now, that's what

1123
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: they've been searching for. Just look at the resources they've

1124
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: given up to find guys that do that. Twenty eighteen

1125
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: Trade a fifth rounder for Josh Gordon, who looked like

1126
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: he ran with a piano on his back, but was

1127
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: a contested catch guy, twenty nineteen first round pick for

1128
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: Harry while we never really saw him do it, that's

1129
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: what he was meant to be and took twenty twenty two,

1130
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: traded a third rounder for Parker. To me, that looks

1131
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,959
Speaker 1: like you're chasing exactly that type of player and giving

1132
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: up those resources to get a player that you're probably

1133
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: aiming for that to be a big part of your offense.

1134
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: I love Paul Rtories. I'm just waiting for him to

1135
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: get that Frida out of the email. Is absolutely right.

1136
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: He's absolutely right my point that I was trying to

1137
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: make last week, and just that I just can't imagine

1138
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: that billing his heart of Hautch things that that's good.

1139
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: But I mean, he's absolutely right. I think this is

1140
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: the kind of guy they've been looking for. I love

1141
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: emails like this to connect the dots in a way

1142
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: that I didn't really think about before. And I think

1143
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: he's right, and I don't and I don't to echo Paul,

1144
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 1: I don't really get it. I don't really get it.

1145
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: It just doesn't seem what they're bread and butter. It isn't.

1146
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: But other than like, isn't that what we're seeing on

1147
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: all the highlight films week after week on all the teams,

1148
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: it's these guys making contested catches. I mean, that's not

1149
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: who are running away from everybody. That's what I see weekend.

1150
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: I see that too, But I see these contested catches

1151
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: guys all you know, But I'm not telling you you

1152
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: don't see any contested catches. I'm telling you what I

1153
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: see highlights of and the good teams, like Jamar Chase

1154
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: isn't a contested catch catch guy. You know, Tyreek Hill.

1155
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean, while he can make make those kinds of plays,

1156
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: what you see more often these streaks across the field,

1157
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: justin Jefferson, not a contested catch guy like the guys

1158
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: that I want. But there's only a handful of those

1159
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: great guys, you know, really, only a handful of those

1160
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: huh yeah yeah, like Tactor. Are more good receivers in

1161
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: the league now than maybe ever before, Just like I

1162
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: think quarterback play is getting better and better. I'd think

1163
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: it's like the thing where they ask Mac about like,

1164
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, RPOs and stuff, and it was one of

1165
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: those responses, you hear a lot where well, you can't

1166
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: major in it. You can't. And that's how I feel

1167
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: about contested catches, Like it's a nice it's a nice

1168
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: piece to have down in the red zone. But I

1169
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: don't get a good email, good email, really good email mail.

1170
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: Maman says I have much more confidence in Brian Hoyer,

1171
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: it's quarterback, after learning that his name is actually axel

1172
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: As mister fully, Uh, yeah, we'll get it. We'll get

1173
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: a look. I mean, man and Paul and I we

1174
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: should say we um. You know, we shot the TV

1175
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: show yesterday and we talked a little bit about that

1176
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: Kansas City game, a little bit of you know, tough

1177
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: circumstances for Brian Horner and that one with Cam getting COVID,

1178
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, and but but they moved the ball pretty well.

1179
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it was balanced. It wasn't all Hoyer. I mean,

1180
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he exactly lit it up through the air.

1181
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: But you know, it was just the mistakes that we

1182
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: pointed out before the halftime. The you know, taking a

1183
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: sack with no timeouts, you know, costing you in a

1184
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: six three game, costing you a field. So listen to

1185
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. That's going back now three seasons,

1186
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, same kind of thing there. It wasn't a

1187
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: total train wreck, like they moved the ball and then

1188
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: made crippling mistakes, whether it be a turnover, taking a

1189
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: sack in field goal range at the end of the

1190
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: half and having the clock run out. Um, you know,

1191
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: is that like, well, if we can just avoid these mistakes,

1192
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: we can win or yeah, that's true, but more than

1193
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: likely you're not gonna avoid those mistakes because this is

1194
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: kind of what you are. That's what I think everybody's

1195
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: wrestling with right now. Um, And that was a horrible

1196
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: situation for Horrier to have to go into. Not at

1197
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: least this week he gets the whole week to prepare

1198
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: my guests. I think he's probably going to have the

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Speaker 1: whole week to prepare that week. He found out as

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Speaker 1: they were traveling, right right, Yeah, well, I mean, well,

1201
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: you know, Freddy were there, right I hit the ground

1202
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: in Kansas City and found out the game had been delayed.

1203
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: They fellas did they play it Monday night? Monday night? Right? Yeah?

1204
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: And they played Monday night. They tested everybody Monday morning,

1205
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: and then they flew them out and then they literally

1206
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: went from like the airports. It was just a mess.

1207
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: What a mess. Uh, let's get back to the ace

1208
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: ticket outline. Patty's an agawam. What's up? Patty going on? Gentlemen, Hey, hey,

1209
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: Patty and mash up. I tell you what like made

1210
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: me relive the end of the game. I didn't. I

1211
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: had no idea Mack was hurt. Um TV didn't get

1212
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: it until after the break. Yeah, as soon as he

1213
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 1: picked as soon as he picked up, he got picked

1214
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: off by threw it on red zone, and red Zone

1215
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 1: actually showed the replay of him getting hit by klay

1216
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: Is Campbell. I know they didn't showed on the Life PBC. UM,

1217
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what like so far, just through

1218
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: three games, I don't I can. I can live with

1219
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: him throwing a few picks here and there, if he's

1220
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: being aggressive and throwing the balls, trying to throw the

1221
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: ball down field. That's one of the things I wanted

1222
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: to see him do this year. But that that pick

1223
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: in the end zone on on third down, I mean,

1224
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: you got to you gotta know what the situation is.

1225
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: You gotta trank at least come away with three points there.

1226
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: I agree, Patty. The two picks the last one, I'm

1227
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: gonna I'll blow off because that's garbage time. The two

1228
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: picks that were killers, Neither one of them was like

1229
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: trying to make a play downfield. It's a bad decision

1230
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: on the first one, bad route, bad communication, whatever you

1231
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: want to call. And then he just didn't see the

1232
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: linebacker or the other one. But that wasn't a deep

1233
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: throw like that. Those are unfortunate, unfortunate place killing, and

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01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: then they're really killing the offense. Thanks Patty. Let's go

1235
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: to Aaron in Flint, Michigan. What's up, Aaron? Hey, what's

1236
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: going on? He Um? I don't want to talk about

1237
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: I think either Paul you brought it up or it

1238
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: was Ronnie Harrison on one of these ana on the show.

1239
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: Mac Dowald doesn't take down does he doesn't do it?

1240
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: Thinking huh, he's not. He has done it. He has, Yeah,

1241
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: I mean that's all he did against Miami. Yeah, that's true.

1242
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: This game. I thought he was getting the ball downfield

1243
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: more often. I think that's why people thought there were

1244
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: flashes of this was the best game he's played. I

1245
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: heard more than one person on the radio yesterday say

1246
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: that was the best game that Mac Jones's player. I've

1247
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: also heard that was the best worst game that he

1248
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: ever had, calling his best game ever, and I was like, uh, yeah,

1249
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess that he doesn't think again that he

1250
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: threw no touchdowns in three picks was his best game.

1251
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: But that's just me. Yeah, Cleveland or San Diego, ye,

1252
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: And I would say this game he probably missed the

1253
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: most open I wouldn't say receivers the tight end because

1254
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: they were all underneath when he was forcing the downfield.

1255
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean, we took the reward, but I think on

1256
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: the pit he had me in open underneath, his tight

1257
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: end open underneath. But I don't know, maybe that was

1258
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: the game of gender or something. But yeah, I wish

1259
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: he would take the beak and dunk because they warn

1260
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: us a lot. Yeah, I don't think yea yeah, I

1261
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: mean I think he's Yeah, I think he's gonna be

1262
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: thinking dunk more often than not. I wouldn't worry about that.

1263
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring up one more play to see

1264
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: if anybody else noticed it. But like I understand, Lamar

1265
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: Jackson is back, but it was one critical play. I

1266
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: don't know if it's when he scrambled ball on those

1267
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: yards and big back, or if it's when he scrambled

1268
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: and completed a pass or a first down, but god, yaw,

1269
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: he broke through the line and just like he just

1270
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: wanted to run up, feel like he got a sack

1271
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: and was going to celebrate. He just complete. I mean,

1272
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: he didn't I don't know if he didn't see Lamar Jackson,

1273
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: but he made Zeros help that trying to tackle him.

1274
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: Did anybody else notice that play? I sure, not off

1275
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: the top of my head, but I mean I think

1276
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: it sums it up with what it is Lamar, and

1277
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure and it seems like the defense was being

1278
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: told to keep him in the pocket and you know,

1279
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: not rushed past him. And so you can understand why

1280
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: Godshall might have been, you know, second caussing himself a

1281
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: little bit when he gets you know, a free shot

1282
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: at him. But he wasn't the only one to miss him.

1283
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean, all those guys, I think he missed him.

1284
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: Point Yeah. All right, Aaron, thanks for the car. Appreciate it.

1285
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm surprised they blitzed as much as they did after

1286
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: he had such a good game against the Blitz against

1287
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: Miami and they came back and blitz to a lot. Again,

1288
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 1: I was a little surprised at that. Were they blitzes

1289
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: are just sending guys from different areas blitzing? They were

1290
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: actual blitzes. Yeah. According to next next Gen stats, they

1291
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: blitz the highest percentage of the week or something like that,

1292
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: fifty in the first half, right, I don't know. Let's

1293
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: go to Steve and Boston. What's up Steve? Hey, guys,

1294
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to bring to your attention that

1295
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: the spreads actually up to ten and a half now. Well, okay,

1296
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: so it is that's okay, So that that does that's

1297
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: more of an indication. Okay, Yeah, the last I had

1298
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: seen it went from six and a half to eight.

1299
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: So if it's up to ten and a half now,

1300
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: that that's moving like you would think with a backup quarterback. Okay, yeah, good.

1301
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: The line again earlier in the year, and then like

1302
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: the line for that week doesn't come out till after

1303
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: the game, so I don't know if we know there's

1304
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: a movement, right, No, you're you're definitely correct. The actual

1305
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: line for the game would be after the games of

1306
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: week three if we find out it went up because

1307
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: they found out Mac is in fact going to play

1308
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: I'll just tell you if Mac play, it wouldn't. I

1309
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: don't think it would move. I really don't. Well you

1310
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:22,919
Speaker 1: got one a guy on one leg, correct, you know? Yeah? Malpractice? Yeah?

1311
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: Is that all? Steve? Just no, thanks for the updates,

1312
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: because because I actually meant to look that up this

1313
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: morning to see if it had changed at all. But

1314
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad that Steve called in because you guys have

1315
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: much more information on that stuff than I do. Scott's

1316
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: and Newton. What's up, Scott? Get it off? Get it off?

1317
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: Why don't you just put him on holding the look

1318
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: every once in a while we'll check back in and

1319
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: see if he's still on. Scott? You there, So that's

1320
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: not him playing, that's his hold music. It's Eric playing

1321
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: for him. He has no formal artistic training. Scott must

1322
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: be at work. Um, let's go back to the emails

1323
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 1: at web radio at Patriots dot com. Eric is from

1324
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: the Virgin Islands. Which one? You know? There's so many? Yeah?

1325
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: Well there's three. Um, how much longer do we have

1326
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: to keep up this facade that Mac is anything more

1327
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: than a backup level quarterback? No, I don't know. How

1328
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: about a couple of years. No, athleticism, bad arm, bad

1329
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: and crunch time. But yet that's all okay because he's

1330
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: incredibly smart. Yet time and time again we see him

1331
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: throw dumb interceptions or make dumb decisions. Is there really

1332
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: anything you can say to describe mac as a quarterback

1333
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: that wouldn't also apply to Hoyer? Wo wow? A kind

1334
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: of why that keeps saying? I don't really think there

1335
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: was that much of a difference. I think I think

1336
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: Max more athletic. Believe it or not he is, it's certainly,

1337
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: certainly at this stage he's more athletic. And I also

1338
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: thought he did a great job, not a good job,

1339
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: a great job in the pocket, moving around, buying time,

1340
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: trying to make plays the other day, best I've seen

1341
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: him in that regard. Yet, thirty one yards rushing in

1342
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: that game like that was by far the best I've

1343
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: ever seen him move. And of course he comes out

1344
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: of it with a painful high ankle sprained. Won't be

1345
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: moving like that anytime soon. Paul is in Norwood. Unfortunately,

1346
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots never got in this situation, But do you

1347
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: think they would have taken the field goal as quickly

1348
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: as possible on that final drive to cut it to

1349
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: a one score game. It seems that late in the game,

1350
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: when a team is down between nine and eleven points,

1351
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: this should be the call under most circumstances. Yeah, kicked

1352
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: the field goal and then try to get the on

1353
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: sides for the touchdown. I think they probably would. They

1354
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: might have gotten into field goal range, taken a shot,

1355
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: and then if it wasn't there, Yeah, I think they

1356
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: would have kicked a field goal. I think. I think

1357
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: well coached teams do that a lot. In a similar

1358
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: situation in the Pittsburgh Cleveland game, Pittsburgh wasted a lot

1359
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: of time only to end up with a field goal anyway.

1360
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: Down nine, they completed a pass for a first down

1361
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: at the Cleveland twenty six with two forty six and

1362
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: one time out left. My opinion, the right call would

1363
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: have been to spike it and bring the field goal

1364
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: unit out for forty three or forty four yard kick. Then,

1365
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: if successful kickoff and play defense. If all went well,

1366
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: they would have been able to utilize their time out

1367
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: and the two minute warning and forced Pittsburgh to punt,

1368
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: getting the ball back at a round the twenty five

1369
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: to thirty yard line with about one fifteen left. What

1370
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: are your thoughts. Yeah. I mean, so I didn't see

1371
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: the end of this game. So he's saying, you know,

1372
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: you know what, I just you go instead of wasting time,

1373
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,560
Speaker 1: he said, two forty five left, ish, I'm rounding it

1374
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: with a timeout. With a timeout for a forty seven

1375
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: yard field, forty two or forty three, I would have

1376
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: taken shots to try to get close. I don't think

1377
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: that's an automatic. Number one forty something isn't automatic. It

1378
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: should be, but it's not. Let's face it, we've all

1379
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: seen these guys miss and there's too much time, Like

1380
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: you had time to take take another shot. Now, it

1381
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: sounds like they wasted a lot of time because I

1382
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: think they got the ball back with like one for

1383
01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: one play, right, So I think something in between those

1384
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: two the email is right. I think that not enough

1385
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 1: coaches do that. When you're two scores down, it doesn't

1386
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: have to be a touchdown first. No, you can get

1387
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: a field goal and then the touchdown. I mean, obviously,

1388
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: if time's running out, you want to have to only

1389
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: get three. And of course if you had an option,

1390
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 1: it's it does you no good, yeah, to get a

1391
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: touchdown and an onside kick if you don't have any

1392
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 1: time to then score. Right. And that's like the other

1393
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: day when Pittsburgh got the ball back, they were unlike

1394
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 1: their own ten yard line with time for one play

1395
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: they made in one of those lateral plays, they ended

1396
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: up being a touchdown for Cleveland. Right. I think that's

1397
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: how that game ended. Yep. Um, let's see Dan and

1398
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 1: Blue Earth Minnesota, our friend from Blue Earth. What a

1399
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: bummer that Mac was hurt Sunday. I felt that he

1400
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,759
Speaker 1: showed signs of growth in the offense. If Aggalore doesn't fumble,

1401
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: I think they score another touchdown, putting them in the

1402
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 1: thirties for the first time in a while. Even the

1403
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: defense showed some playmaking and key moments, giving the offense

1404
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: it's a chance to stay in the game going forward.

1405
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: What sort of special game plan will they come up

1406
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,560
Speaker 1: with to give them a chance in Green Bay with

1407
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: Hoyer under center, offensively or defensively? I mean offensively, I

1408
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: used to get run the ball. I mean I think

1409
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: that's you know, but but probably just basically running the

1410
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: same offense. I don't think that there's really that money. Yeah,

1411
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: the problem the problem with Green Bay is they have

1412
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: a good defense. Yeah, they have a really good defense,

1413
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: and they're gonna and you're gonna have to stop Aaron Jones. Yeah,

1414
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: let's get back to the phones. We've got a couple

1415
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 1: of people are giving it a second try. Scott Newton,

1416
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 1: it's back on. What's up? Scott? Hey, guys? That were

1417
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: you good for a minute there? I thought that was

1418
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: you playing the piano, but it was your hold music, right?

1419
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think we just sit around waiting

1420
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 1: for you to come on the air, so we just

1421
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: listened to your on hold music. We have nothing better

1422
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: to do. I appreciate that. I'll try to step that up.

1423
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: Unless you were like looking for information on Mac Jones's injury,

1424
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: well maybe you could come to the table with some information. Well,

1425
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: I'm very disappointed in Max's performance, and I'm wondering if

1426
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: you guys feel the same way. He's supposed to be

1427
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: a cerebral quarterback. I mean, as far as having arm strength,

1428
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: we can debate that. I think it's pretty clear that

1429
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 1: for him to throw, like the passing through the Parker

1430
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: at the one yard line was a great throw, but

1431
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: he really needs time to step into the ball. He doesn't.

1432
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: He can't otherwise he can at times look like Mark

1433
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: Wilson in terms of like putting a lot of ball

1434
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: air under the ball and maybe not get it there.

1435
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: But my concern is this, It's like the last two

1436
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: games he'd made absolutely indefensible throws, but he got bailed

1437
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: out when the kid in Pittsburgh dropped that ball where

1438
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: that game could have been lost on that play, and

1439
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: then two of those picks and then the most egregious

1440
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: I thought would and I don't. I'm interested in your

1441
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: guys take on this. The goal line dropped, that could

1442
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: have gone the other way for ninety nine yard touchdown.

1443
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: Why would you call that play on first and goal

1444
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: with the one when that defense, by the way from

1445
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: Baltimore is not very good and the next play that

1446
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 1: they walked in on a draw. So I just want

1447
01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: my question. I'm concerned about Mack and I'm wondering if

1448
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: you guys really believe if this guy, given his physical

1449
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: limitations and now the fact that he was he doesn't

1450
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: seem to be. No, he's a second your player. But

1451
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 1: it is bright throwing the ball as people take, Hey,

1452
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 1: what's what's your take on that? And be what's your

1453
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: take on that call? What what what could possibly done?

1454
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: Is the consideration throwing the out pattern from the goal

1455
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: one when when the defense can't stop him on. Yeah,

1456
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: I hated that call. I mean, I think they've been

1457
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 1: similar plays and other plays that fell short. I don't know.

1458
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're tempting fate with the ninety nine

1459
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: touchdown return right there. Um, And I you know, I

1460
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: can't really disagree with Mac. I mean, there's been some positives,

1461
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: and definitely in that last game there were some positives,

1462
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: but overall, it's it's all gotten derailed. Now. I think

1463
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 1: he's going to have to come back and he's going

1464
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: to have to kind of re establish himself at some point.

1465
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to be in a

1466
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 1: few weeks or if that's going to be in November

1467
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: or December. Um, But I you know, I don't really

1468
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: I can't really disagree with what you've been saying that

1469
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: if if if the mistakes, the mental mistakes are happening

1470
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: now and he's turning the ball over in critical spots,

1471
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 1: I just I it's it's not it's not acceptable. Yeah,

1472
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: he hasn't he hasn't seen it. Well, I don't think, Um,

1473
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 1: but I absolutely agree with you guys. I hated that

1474
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 1: call on the goal line. I mean, if you're gonna

1475
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: call a little like play, you know, a hard play action,

1476
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna leak the full back or you know, a

1477
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 1: back out in the flat, it's wide open, easy touchdown.

1478
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: Great Accolately, wasn't that right that that there was supposed

1479
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: to be some sort of pick play there? I think,

1480
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 1: right through it and you throw one before you see

1481
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: the guy opened first and goal from the tool. Oh

1482
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: that's a bad bad played by everybody except for Do

1483
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: you think do you think, if you know, if let's

1484
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: say he comes back and he plays like this and

1485
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: they have the season, it looks like they're going in

1486
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: the top ten pick, do you think they will look

1487
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: at another quarterback. No, I don't think they would. I'm

1488
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 1: not saying I wouldn't, but I don't think they wouldn't.

1489
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: I think the injury is huge now too um. But yeah,

1490
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 1: we talked about this last week, Scott Um. If it,

1491
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 1: if it, if it falls apart, and you're somehow, you know,

1492
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: picking seventh next year, I don't know how you don't

1493
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: at least look at it. I really don't, because if

1494
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: it falls apart, you'd think would because of his play. Now,

1495
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: if he gets hurt and that's why it falls apart. Right,

1496
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: that's different, Right, that's totally different. Yeah, I mean, guys,

1497
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: if you guys the quarterback play was the difference in

1498
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: the game. I mean, it would have been nice if

1499
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: Judon had showed up and Juwan Bentley and somebody made

1500
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: some tackles. But at the end of the day, the

1501
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: even how poorly the defense played, you could have won

1502
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 1: this game if you taken care of the ball. I mean,

1503
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: the throw a Parker in the end zone was indefense. Well,

1504
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 1: that's a guy just saying I'm going to throw it

1505
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: up and hopefully catches it when when you're in field

1506
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: goal range. And again even the play we were just

1507
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 1: talking about the goal line was even when he's got

1508
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: to know as a quarterback, the guy's not wide open.

1509
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 1: Its first and goal from the two or the one

1510
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: and a half. You can't make that throw. Yeah, I agree.

1511
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he was visit, thanks Scott. He

1512
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: was visibly a set on the sideline. But like if

1513
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: the call was that bad, then don't check out of it,

1514
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, get yelled at the I'd

1515
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: rather yelled at for not running the play then throwing

1516
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: an interception. Do you remember Paul with the what the

1517
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: big story, the big takeaway was after that loss to

1518
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: Seattle in twenty twenty eight. Remember we were talking about

1519
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 1: in that loss where Patriots fought hard but they came

1520
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 1: up short. But it was you remember you know what

1521
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about with that cam was thrown at all

1522
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 1: wet camp but like people but but but people felt

1523
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 1: like him um with Seattle game. Yeah, yeah, because because

1524
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: you threw a couple of passes in the second Yeah,

1525
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 1: not a good loss. What was the phrase that that

1526
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 1: was tossed around? A lot more moral? Moral victor victory? Yeah,

1527
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: moral victory. And I've been a lot of that this week,

1528
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: all out of moral victories over the last and a

1529
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 1: lot of that this week to moral victory. That's you know,

1530
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,839
Speaker 1: And that's and that's some of like, well we couldn't

1531
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: shut out after the twelve and fources. I know, as

1532
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 1: soon as we weren't getting double digits, I was out.

1533
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: But you know, that's as much as you want to

1534
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,560
Speaker 1: highlight some of the positive stuff, it's just you know,

1535
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: at some point they've got to break the damn and

1536
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 1: they've got to start playing good football against good teams again.

1537
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,480
Speaker 1: And and and and giving themselves at least the opportunity

1538
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 1: to win. Like I can handle the fact that they're

1539
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: a team with a second year quarterback that can't quite

1540
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: beat an elite team like the Ravens. Right now, Okay,

1541
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: that's fine, Like you know, there's the rebuild going on.

1542
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: That's fine. You fall a little bit short, I get it,

1543
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: But that only goes so far. At a certain point,

1544
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: you've been seeing these same kind of games over and

1545
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 1: over again when they go in and play the good teams.

1546
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: At what point does it turn around? And you know,

1547
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: it's just I think it's not going to get any

1548
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 1: easier this week, and and but again, I don't know

1549
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 1: how much you really take from this game because they'd

1550
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: be like, well they Brian Hoyer and there, what do

1551
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 1: you want to do? You know? Yeah, that's why they

1552
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 1: get so unfortunate in terms of the big pitcher to

1553
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: have Mac Jones injured. But yeah, I mean I'm not

1554
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: a big never have been a big fan of the

1555
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 1: moral victory kind of thing unless you just have no

1556
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: talent and you're you know, you're ripping it down to

1557
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 1: the studds and you're starting over with new coach, new quarterback.

1558
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: You know, you're one of the process, you know, with

1559
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: three years into the post Brady era, if they lose

1560
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: to Packers twenty nineteen, is that a moral victory? No? Okay,

1561
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 1: just like, who are the Packers? They scored fourteen points

1562
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: last week. I'm just wondering. Yeah, I mean they lost

1563
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 1: all that. If they if they win twenty to nineteen,

1564
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:14,560
Speaker 1: it's a regular victory. Um. But yeah, No, Like, I

1565
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: don't I think this is a game that I don't.

1566
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I'm just speaking for myself. I don't.

1567
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't expect to see the Packers with like thirty

1568
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 1: something and the Patriots and the team in like the

1569
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 1: low teens. Like, I don't anticipate this being a blowout. No,

1570
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: I don't think green Bay is that good. I think

1571
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: they got enough, but I think they're better than you.

1572
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,799
Speaker 1: I just don't think they're you know, they're not vintage

1573
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: green Bay. Davante Adams is not there. Let's go to

1574
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: Aaron in Connecticut. Hey, Aaron you okay? Um, I just

1575
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: wanted to say I thought the sky was following like

1576
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. I am back down to

1577
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: earth now. I actually feel in tours. My whole thing is,

1578
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 1: I know we need to work. I know it's gonna

1579
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: take some time for us to get back to where

1580
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: we used to be or assembles that. But my fear was,

1581
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: are the bill is going to run this division for

1582
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: twenty years before we get it together again? And I

1583
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: don't see that happening. I think that we're making strides.

1584
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: We're in the right direction. Parker looked pretty good, and

1585
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: I feel like Jones looked really good too, other than

1586
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 1: when he was trying to force it to Parker. But

1587
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: he's a jump ball guy, so you do. That's something

1588
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: to expect. So you guys, let me know if I'm

1589
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: right or wrong. Well, you are neither right nor wrong.

1590
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 1: It's your take, right, I mean, how you I want

1591
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 1: to know how you guys feel, because, like, like I

1592
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: heard just a little earlier, you like, I don't know

1593
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: if you want mcdonsh for five years or whatnot. Oh

1594
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't. I didn't know about what you

1595
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: want or what you don't want. I don't think he'll

1596
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 1: be the quarterback in five years. I don't, no, no,

1597
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: and I and I don't think the picks were fifty

1598
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: fifty balls either, on Sunday. No, nope, I think you

1599
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 1: threw one to a linebacker. He the last one he

1600
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: just overthrew boring and he threw one to the back

1601
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: pylon expecting his guy to be there and he wasn't.

1602
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,560
Speaker 1: That to me was probably a communication breakdown. But I

1603
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: don't think that's designed to be a jump all I

1604
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 1: guess here. Yeah, Parker was open in this game. Absolutely. Yeah.

1605
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 1: But the question is, like in two years, as Parker

1606
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 1: even gonna be on the team, Well, my question is

1607
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: is Parker going to be open consistently? Thanks Aaron, appreciate

1608
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: the call. Yeah, I mean, to me, it's all about Mac. Yep,

1609
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 1: that's what it's all. But he had some deep throws,

1610
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 1: some deep outs, like I don't know what you call those,

1611
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: like post flat, post corner or something. I mean, like,

1612
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. He had two of them that he

1613
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 1: just perfectly dropped in, like just perfect throws, maybe thirty

1614
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: yards down field. Those are the throws he can make,

1615
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 1: the ones that go like this if you're looking, if

1616
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 1: you're looking for flashes, you saw more of them in

1617
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: this game than any game we've seen so far of

1618
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Yeah, you know, this season for sure, but

1619
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 1: then he had to mistakes, but but he showed he

1620
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 1: can't do things. Yeah, and any think on those throws too.

1621
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 1: When you watch him, it's, you know, it's all perfect,

1622
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: Like he drops back the pockets clean, he's hits step

1623
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 1: step throw. I mean, it's all in time. It looks good.

1624
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: That's why I liked the back shoulder throw because that

1625
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 1: was just I'm gonna like, let this one ripe. There's

1626
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: gotta be timing, there's gotta be precision, and there's gotta

1627
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,560
Speaker 1: be some zip on the ball. You can't have like

1628
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:25,560
Speaker 1: a lot of those back shoulder throws that are just

1629
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 1: like hanging in the air. Yeah. And I gotta give

1630
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: him some crack because I've been a little harsh on

1631
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: on some of those float and I thought some of

1632
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 1: those plays at the middle had had some good zip

1633
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: on it. I mean, look like a couple who throws

1634
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: up the middle. I'll give you an example of one. Yeah,

1635
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: the one that Agilo fumbled. Yeah, I don't know how

1636
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: he got that in there. Yep. Fred thought it was

1637
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: picked live and I thought he was right. And I

1638
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: was like, Fred, you know, he's running with the Paul right.

1639
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 1: I thought that I didn't see it get over the defense.

1640
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: But it did. It was a great throw. He got

1641
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 1: it over that and kind of throws. You know, to

1642
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 1: your point, Fred, that you made very early in the

1643
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: show about they protected him last year, I don't think

1644
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 1: would have made that throw last year. Yeah, because he

1645
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: wasn't really open, right, he had to force it in there.

1646
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,560
Speaker 1: And I and like I said, you know, I'm not

1647
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,600
Speaker 1: going to go back before the season, I said, just

1648
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: be decisive, Just be decisive. You're gonna make mistakes, but

1649
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: it's okay. Be decisive with your throws. And I think

1650
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: we saw more of that on Sunday than we have

1651
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 1: so he I thought he threw the ball better Sunday

1652
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: than he did in the first two games, but he

1653
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: also made more mistakes Sunday than he did in the

1654
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: first two games. Ye, Anthony writes, And I know it's

1655
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 1: silly to ask hypothetical questions about trades or moves, but

1656
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: just for entertainment purposes, would you type questions? Would you

1657
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: take make the call and off Mac to San Francisco

1658
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: for Trey Lance? Obviously knowing Lance is done for the season,

1659
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 1: and with reports that Kyle Shanahan liked Jones at draft time,

1660
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 1: I really like Trey Lance coming out. I might, I mean,

1661
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't mean it as a shot at Mac,

1662
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't really did like Trey

1663
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 1: Lance and thought he fit well. For how many years

1664
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: is it gonna be before he's ready though, Trey Lance?

1665
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 1: I mean he's how do you know he's not ready now? Well?

1666
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 1: I mean it took him a while, and now he's

1667
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: gonna start over here. He's gonna be thirty years old

1668
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: and steen Mac has already started his first game and

1669
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: Lances started games. Yeah, but you know what I mean, No,

1670
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 1: I don't he started one? What one game? He started

1671
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,560
Speaker 1: games last year and he started the season as the

1672
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 1: starting quarterback this year. Yeah. Like, to me, it's not

1673
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: about like where they are in the development, it's who

1674
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: you like better? Who do you like better? Who do

1675
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: you mean? Like if if Kyle Shanahan liked Mac Jones,

1676
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 1: he'd a drafted him. He drafted Trey Lance instead. Yeah, right,

1677
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: Apparently apparently they had the third pick of the draft

1678
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: they took Trey Lance, not Mac Jones. I assume that's

1679
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: not apparently that's fact. I assume he liked I assume

1680
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: he liked him better. Yeah, but the question is who

1681
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: does he like now better? Yeah, I here's why I

1682
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 1: would stick with Mac Jones. This is probably a button

1683
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: hook for you guys. It's really got very little to

1684
01:22:56,200 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 1: do with Trey Lance's skill set. It's a guy who

1685
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: plays the way he does that just broke his ankle. Yeah, yeah,

1686
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna step away from that, and I

1687
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 1: want to stick with Mac Jones right now. Also, would

1688
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: you unload some players for draft capital win Brown two

1689
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: more teams lost their left tackles this weekend? Could you

1690
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: play them against each other and get a decent return?

1691
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 1: So we're just like waving, Yeah, it's over at one

1692
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: and two. I mean they would they were were in

1693
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 1: week four. They were two and four last year and

1694
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 1: ended up ten and seven. Like Max just had his

1695
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: ankle wrapped down his head. Let's trade our tackles, what now,

1696
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 1: I listen, I'm not dismissing. I mean, I'm dismissing all

1697
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: of it is out of question. But like Isaiah win

1698
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: to the ninth is Trent Williams out now four to

1699
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: six weeks? I don't know Isaiah win to the Niners,

1700
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't completely dismiss that, but I don't

1701
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 1: know what you for what. Yeah, it's a fifth round pick.

1702
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones is a free agent at the end of

1703
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 1: this year. Deal them. I'm sure plenty of teams looking

1704
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: for a good, speedy veteran to help their defense. Also

1705
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: gives the Jones rookies more time to play and get

1706
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: a good look. I'm not opposed to that either, But

1707
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 1: that's another one that's like Jonathan Jones in a sixth

1708
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 1: or Jonathan Jones and a seventh for a sixth. That's

1709
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: what you're getting for like those kinds of moves. Also,

1710
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 1: why on earth is Bryant still fielding punts? He's gotten

1711
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of a long leash. Yeah, way longer

1712
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: than my guys usually get when they lose the ball.

1713
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 1: I think he knows the guys I like. I think

1714
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 1: that's what it is. Although I wasn't encouraged to see

1715
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones get a chance to return kicks at least

1716
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: the other day, even though they were all touchbacks for

1717
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 1: the most part, but I did like, Um, that means

1718
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: just the fact that he gave him the opportunity. I

1719
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: was afraid that, you know, he mishandled a couple of

1720
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: punch in the preseason. That was it. That's all you

1721
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: can ask for. What do you think of that? Freddie?

1722
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: I want some more athleticism. It's not a bad thing.

1723
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones. I want to see, you know, especially this

1724
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: let the kids play well. This offense I think needs

1725
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: a you know, needs some taking the pay some help.

1726
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: Give them a little bit of help. Bob from the

1727
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 1: teacher's lounge. I feel like the Patriots fans have developed

1728
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 1: an expertise and identifying identifying a trap game over the

1729
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 1: past twenty years. Given that we are now the trapper

1730
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: instead of the trapped am I missing the clear signs

1731
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: for a trap game coming up, there's definitely a trap.

1732
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 1: Green Bay is coming off the big win in Tampa

1733
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 1: and we're coming off the big loss. Yeah, I mean

1734
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: they're you know, young, some young team. You know. It's funny, Paul,

1735
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 1: just watching um watching some of the tape of green Bay,

1736
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: watching there give Bay. It just was like kind of

1737
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 1: reinforcement to me of what we've been kind of like

1738
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: hoping for the last couple of years. Was it was

1739
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 1: like just grab a couple of guys and the day

1740
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 1: two of receivers and instantly you see Dabbs and I mean,

1741
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: I know Watson was, but it's hurt. But two guys,

1742
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, I mean right away you've kind of like

1743
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 1: got some guys in the pipeline that you're like, yeah,

1744
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 1: we lost the Fantanas, but it seems like you've got

1745
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 1: some guys that can play. But we did this, like

1746
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: let's not kill them. Yeah they drafted, he got her

1747
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: um but yeah, that's what Mike and I were really, uh,

1748
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, focusing our draft podcasts on, is let's find

1749
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 1: a Day two receiver or two that we really like.

1750
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 1: And Dobbs looks like legit. Yeah, And you know in there,

1751
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,719
Speaker 1: Watson dropped like a gimme touchdown. And I know you're

1752
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 1: gonna sit there and you're gonna say, well, they're playing

1753
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers, like that's easy. Yeah, it is, You're

1754
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, But it also has a lot of

1755
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: pressure because he's a dude. You know. I mean, do

1756
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: you see Aaron Rodgers's reaction when Watson dropped that pass

1757
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: that Mike is talking about, even like in the you know,

1758
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 1: he dropped it like like like in the press corm

1759
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 1: It's like, come on, guy, like a kid, I could

1760
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 1: see Dan Marino being more compassionate than that. But I'll

1761
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: tell you he really wanted that game to beat Brady,

1762
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 1: to beat Brady. Oh, that was such a relief for

1763
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 1: him to win that game. It was so weird for

1764
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: them too, Like do you know how that like they

1765
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,759
Speaker 1: got the ball, they went touchdown, touchdown, and then fumbled

1766
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: inside the one. Yeah, and then in the second half

1767
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 1: they couldn't move the ball. It's crazy. And then Brady

1768
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 1: couldn't move it the whole game, and then he gets

1769
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 1: them down there they score. Now that is get off

1770
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: the two point conversion. We talked about green Bays defense.

1771
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 1: That's a really good defense too. Tampa's defense is healthy.

1772
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 1: Last year it wasn't um so that's a big difference. Yeah,

1773
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 1: I was watching them. I you know, I really like

1774
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 1: the guy from Michigan with his name up front, um

1775
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:27,640
Speaker 1: Blake Rashan Gary. He's tough, he's style, he's kind of

1776
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 1: one of their guys. Deveandre Campbell has gotten a lot

1777
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: of ink for them to kay Walker. Way Walker's playing

1778
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, Like they played more of a

1779
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 1: like an old school three four Freddy. So what I like?

1780
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: I like when you talk schemes well, I'm talking in

1781
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 1: the in generic schemes. I'm not putting anybody to sleep

1782
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 1: by talking about you know, the the over under shade

1783
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: and you know the five technique. No one wants to

1784
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 1: hear about that. Careful because I got that'll be tomorrow.

1785
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 1: We cut some flak on on Twitter today, Paul. This morning,

1786
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 1: somebody said when you and I, when you were I

1787
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 1: try to talk schemes, it's exhausting. I agree. I totally agree.

1788
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: Who who tweeted that, Evan Lazarre, some guy. I totally

1789
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: agree that that letter sponsor numbers Greg but Die. That

1790
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 1: is the greatest criticism that I've ever received, and I

1791
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 1: receive a lot of them. Just go on that YouTube

1792
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 1: channel and watch them making fun of me eating that

1793
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 1: pizza last week Russell in Arkansas? Is it too late

1794
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 1: to ask Tom to come back? On a more serious note,

1795
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 1: If Hoyer somehow looks good on Sunday and ends up

1796
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 1: running the offense better than Mac, what does that say

1797
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: about Mac? Also, I saw this morning that Kenny Galladay

1798
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 1: is potentially being shopped around to trade for him. I mean,

1799
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: he has to be better than Born and he maybe

1800
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: gives you another outside receiver option. No yeah. I mean,

1801
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: to be honest, I think we're all kind of expecting

1802
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: it not to look that all that much different from

1803
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 1: what it looked like with Mac. I mean, it looked

1804
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 1: okay with Hoyer. He very limited snaps this summer. I

1805
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 1: mean it was almost like bizarre about how little he would,

1806
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 1: you know, get like an interstitial period and then that

1807
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,560
Speaker 1: was it. You know. So I think the question we

1808
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 1: talked about at the top was valid of like, well,

1809
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 1: what are they doing? What is this offense? But I

1810
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: think you could say if it was some kind of

1811
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 1: offshoot or you know, held a lot in common with

1812
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: one of the offenses that Brian Hoyer ran elsewhere, that

1813
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 1: maybe it would look better. You know, maybe at least

1814
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: I think paulse thing which I like is, you know,

1815
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 1: at least initially out of the gate as they as

1816
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: they know what he can do, and other teams aren't

1817
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: quite sure yet, and you know, you played a horrier's

1818
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 1: strengths and and you know, hopefully he does what he

1819
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 1: didn't do in Kansas City, which is just give your

1820
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:34,759
Speaker 1: team a chance to win, don't throw the killer interception,

1821
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 1: hand the ball off, take the easy plays. But I

1822
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 1: mean I'm not I'm not going to be shocked if

1823
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 1: the first game or two he maybe moves the ball,

1824
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 1: maybe looks a little bit more comfortable than Mack. He

1825
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 1: will have stretches, assuming he plays, which you know, but

1826
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 1: I safe assumption he will have stretches where the offense

1827
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 1: looks good. But he knows how to play football. He

1828
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: had stretches back in his career where he pulled off

1829
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 1: some wins and he did pretty well. But he's all

1830
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: in eleven in his last starts. Yep, you know that's

1831
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 1: not good. You didn't know that one. Hundn't heard that

1832
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: one yet. You weren't exhausted. I didn't pass twenty twenty.

1833
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah he's eleven. Yeah, he's last eleven stars. He's oe

1834
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 1: eleven um physically, he just doesn't have it mentally. I

1835
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 1: think that's why he's in the league, because he's a

1836
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 1: smart quarterback who can be a good sounding blow. First daughter,

1837
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 1: just show you know Fred, gotta watch him. I know

1838
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 1: he's on the edge, wise guy nobody, but right now,

1839
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 1: in particular, he's he's in a dark he's in a

1840
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:39,679
Speaker 1: dark place. I would tune in probably let's see Losing

1841
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 1: Home seventh. I tuned it in around seven forty five

1842
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: eight o'clock Sunday night. You might hear some vile things

1843
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 1: coming out of Mike shows. I'll be making the noise

1844
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 1: Mac was making when he was coming on be ready

1845
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: with that button on Sunday Night. Matt Morale, Uh, Johnston

1846
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:03,560
Speaker 1: blew again. Johnson and Porter's Lake, Nova, Scotia. Porter's Lakes

1847
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 1: like a good place that they make a good beer.

1848
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 1: Porter's Lake the poor bager. You know they have mill

1849
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 1: of lake. Oh, I'm sure, Okay, then it's great lake.

1850
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm in. I wasn't too optimistic going into this season,

1851
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 1: and now that Mac is going to be sideline, is

1852
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 1: this Hoyer full out? Or could there be a chance

1853
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 1: Bill give Zappy a shot? How bad would your boy be?

1854
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: Boy have to be for Zappy to get in there?

1855
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:30,759
Speaker 1: I mean pretty bad. I mean I understand why fans

1856
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:33,640
Speaker 1: are intrigued by Zappy because it's an unknown and you think, hey,

1857
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: maybe he'd get in there. I'm not. You know, I

1858
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: don't either. I think there are some I watched the

1859
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 1: summer right, but that's what people hadn't watched, and I think,

1860
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, hey, you got a rookie quarterback. Maybe the

1861
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 1: preseason games I assume they watched the preseason games. When

1862
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 1: you're just running around, you'd be surprised. He looked much

1863
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: better on the practice field than in the preseason games.

1864
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,759
Speaker 1: Hope ball as well. Quite a few Patriots fan Patriots

1865
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 1: fans in Atlantic Canada sitting in the dark since Friday

1866
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 1: due to Hurricane Fiona. Downloading the podcast at libraries helped

1867
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 1: me get through hurricane and boredom of no power. We're

1868
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 1: hopeful to see this weekend's game. Wow, I forgot about that.

1869
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 1: Fiona came off the coast and then went back and

1870
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 1: hit Canada. Yeah. Yeah, my dad's right in the firing

1871
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: line for this one that's coming up this week. He's

1872
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 1: down a tap Fort Myers, Charlotte. This is like the

1873
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 1: first like heavy duty hurricane tamp has had in like

1874
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: a hundred years or something like that. Yeah, like that

1875
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 1: seems weird, Yeah, handhandle. Yeah. So the answer the question,

1876
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 1: how bad would Hoyer have to be? I legitimately don't

1877
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 1: think it's possible for him to be bad enough, and

1878
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 1: not because of Zappie. But I'm just gonna go back

1879
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty. I think Cam Newton played as bad

1880
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 1: as you can possibly play, and we still didn't get

1881
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 1: to see Stidham start a game. H Yeah, so I

1882
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 1: think he's gonna say, Joya, gives me a better shot.

1883
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phones. Todd's in North Carolina.

1884
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 1: Hey Todd, Hey guys, I was I watched the game

1885
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 1: a couple of times, Skin, and I'm really kind of

1886
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: confused about how how do you define the read progression

1887
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 1: for Matt because his eyes seem to dart all over

1888
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: the place and then he just fixates, like for the

1889
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 1: first i'd say ten seconds, he looks all over the place.

1890
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 1: We'll not ten. For the first little bit, he's all

1891
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:20,719
Speaker 1: over the place, and then he he'll just hyper focus

1892
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 1: on one person. Is that normally how a progression goes

1893
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 1: for a quarterback? Well, it depends on how quickly they

1894
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:28,680
Speaker 1: get rid of it. It's, you know, progression, but then

1895
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 1: you got to get rid of it, you know. I

1896
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: do think there are plays that they've run where if

1897
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: it seems like he don't really have many options, he's

1898
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 1: going to one guy. I think some of those ones

1899
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 1: that we talk Fourth and three is a one read play,

1900
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 1: like the snap balls out, you're going right there and

1901
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 1: he gets tackled behind the line. Yeah, I don't know,

1902
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 1: so can that affect like, can his progression be affected

1903
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 1: by his confidence in the pocket? Is that maybe why

1904
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 1: he's yeah going fast? Oh yeah, for sure. It's all.

1905
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all connected. I feel you know, it's all.

1906
01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 1: It's all one thing. I mean, it's hard to break

1907
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 1: it out and be like he's not getting through Louis.

1908
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 1: But it's also hard for us to tell you what

1909
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 1: his progressions are. Yeah, you would think after the Pittsburgh

1910
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: game he'd have a little bit more confidence, but then

1911
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 1: you know Baltimore, I think they were a little It's

1912
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 1: like I told you, I don't think the past protection

1913
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 1: was as great in Pittsburgh as the numbers indicating. Okay,

1914
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: I think he did a really good I think he

1915
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 1: was much better in the pocket against Pittsburgh than he

1916
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 1: was against Miami. And the only real difference, not the

1917
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 1: only difference, but the major difference was those two runaway

1918
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 1: guys in Miami were not there in Pittsburgh. Were no breakdowns.

1919
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 1: Any pressure that he had for the most part against

1920
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh was just a guy beat a block. In this

1921
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 1: game I think was similar. I think he had a

1922
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on him in this game. I think

1923
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 1: the offensive line has just been okay the last two games.

1924
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: Not that good. Sean at Seattle love the show. The

1925
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 1: towny isms may take me back to my roots. Bill

1926
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:53,959
Speaker 1: has built a Hall of Fame career out of adapting

1927
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 1: scheme systems and approaches to put the team in the

1928
01:34:56,720 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 1: best position to win. While his struggles in the draft

1929
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 1: a well documented, one thing that has not attracted as

1930
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:06,799
Speaker 1: much scrutiny is his pension from making an extended example

1931
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 1: of a talented player for seemingly minor infractions. This KB

1932
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:13,720
Speaker 1: saga seems to be the latest example of bb PO

1933
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:17,839
Speaker 1: vaulting over mouse turds to the detriment of the team winning.

1934
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 1: Has papered over this in the past, but given the

1935
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,919
Speaker 1: state of the team, this could unravel pretty quickly. Interested

1936
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 1: in your thoughts and whether you think Bill has been

1937
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 1: slower to adapt to evolving player personalities than he has

1938
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 1: in other areas. I don't know. I mean, I think

1939
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 1: everybody's harping on this born thing. Um is there another

1940
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 1: recent example of him? Well, the running back last year? Um,

1941
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 1: two years Yeamandre Stevenson fumbled in the opener and see

1942
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 1: him for like four weeks. Yeah, but then Miles, Bryan

1943
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 1: JJ Taylor, Uh, you know fumbled, we never saw him again. Well,

1944
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 1: Brian could be just the thing where he doesn't trust him,

1945
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 1: but the other begin doesn't Marcus Jones because you know

1946
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 1: he's a rookie, right, I think he might. I think

1947
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 1: he feels like he doesn't have an option because I

1948
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 1: don't think you'd still see Myles be interesting to see Sunday, right,

1949
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 1: because he's screwed up twice, Right, two games in a row,

1950
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 1: be interesting to see if this, if he stays back

1951
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:15,600
Speaker 1: there Sunday, then I think that's an example that he

1952
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:20,640
Speaker 1: doesn't think any anybody else's any more trustworthy. But to me,

1953
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 1: I think he's talking more about not physical mistakes, but

1954
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 1: the off field stuff like the West Welker thing, that

1955
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett situation. I don't know, like I agree with him.

1956
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 1: He's putting it all on Bill because I think this

1957
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 1: is everybody's blaming Patricia for for that. I think it's

1958
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 1: Bill because Bill ultimately decides who plays and who doesn't play.

1959
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the reason he's not playing now,

1960
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I think that he definitely

1961
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 1: got in the doghouse for whatever reason. At some point

1962
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 1: this summer he was in the doghouse. I'm not sure

1963
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 1: that he's not playing now because he was in the doghouse. No,

1964
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 1: I agree, I don't. I'm not sure. I'm not telling

1965
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 1: you that he is is playing enough to think he's

1966
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 1: out of the but enough that it makes you think

1967
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 1: that they just don't. Really I think they. I think

1968
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 1: they honestly believe that if they don't have that extra

1969
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 1: blocker out there, then they'd be worse off than Okay,

1970
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,560
Speaker 1: so this are So that's one thing that I would say, like,

1971
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 1: here's and again I really hesitate to get into I

1972
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 1: know more about football than these guys. If he thinks

1973
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 1: that's that's the reason, that's a bad reason. If you're

1974
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 1: playing one wide receiver over another for the running game,

1975
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 1: that that's a bad reason. Like you're telling me that

1976
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 1: I can't run the ball the way I want to

1977
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 1: run it if I don't have little Jordan Humphrey out there.

1978
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 1: They may also be thinking about those short passes in

1979
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 1: the flat blocking for those which right, yeah, that's I

1980
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 1: think you're right, But I just I go back to

1981
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 1: those numbers. I spit out where it's like the way

1982
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 1: you're doing it is you're having three guys who are

1983
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 1: unproductive and although Borne is playing little like at least

1984
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,559
Speaker 1: he is productive in the little role that he is playing.

1985
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 1: How can you get every everybody involved? How can you

1986
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 1: get all of this clicking? And you know, I don't know.

1987
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 1: That's what I wonder about the tight ends. Is this

1988
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 1: like a scheme thing? Do they not really know how

1989
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 1: to get those guys open? Is it not part of

1990
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 1: the plan right now? It's just it seems they're so

1991
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 1: interested in pushing the ball down the field and trying

1992
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 1: to take shots whenever possible that it just almost feels

1993
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: like a detriment. And now you're having people call him

1994
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 1: being like we got to get back to the bend

1995
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 1: or the dinkin dunk. I mean, I never thought I

1996
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 1: would hear that again, but I mean I kind of

1997
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 1: agree with it of just you know, taking what's there

1998
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 1: and not you know, putting everything on these thirty yard

1999
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 1: throws and you know, hit or miss and oh it's great,

2000
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 1: we hit it. Oh though they intercepted it. It's like,

2001
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 1: but that's the real sense, if that's if that's really

2002
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 1: they want to get it down field? More like that

2003
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,599
Speaker 1: did not even make it more silly that you would

2004
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 1: have Humphrey out there more than than Born. Yeah, and

2005
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 1: I agree, Like I could tell by the Deuce's facial expression,

2006
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 1: and we argued about this on the TV show this

2007
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 1: week in the fairness already, Um, I agree with you,

2008
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:58,759
Speaker 1: like there is an element that the less Born plays

2009
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 1: and the longer the we go that he's not a

2010
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 1: part of it, the better player Born becomes. Kendrick Bourne

2011
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 1: is a good, solid, complimentary piece to the puzzle, right, Fred,

2012
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:11,600
Speaker 1: would you think he's Did you think he's more than that?

2013
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:13,560
Speaker 1: Because we can argue if you do. No, he's not

2014
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 1: a number one, but no, but he's a good pia

2015
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 1: like I think he's Yeah, Okay, I just want to, like,

2016
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 1: you know, because we don't all have to have the

2017
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:23,280
Speaker 1: same opinion of every player. I think he's a good,

2018
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 1: solid player. I think he's now being treated like this

2019
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 1: unbelievable game breaker that the Patriots have kept on ice

2020
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 1: and costing him games as a result, Like they would

2021
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:37,560
Speaker 1: have won Sunday if he didn't fumble. I don't. I

2022
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 1: don't know, like if he played a little bit more

2023
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 1: like I kind of I see the look on Deuce's

2024
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 1: face and it's like, we're not talking about Justin Jefferson here,

2025
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 1: We're talking about Kendrick Bourne. He's a good he's a

2026
01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 1: good player. I like Born, made some good place. I

2027
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 1: like Born. I think he's a good player. I don't

2028
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 1: think he's a difference maker. Joe's in San Antonio. I

2029
01:39:57,280 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 1: think it's time to stop making excuse uses for the Patriots.

2030
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 1: Let's face it, the Patriots are who they are to

2031
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 1: be extremely honest. The coaching staff isn't great, and it's

2032
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 1: trickling down to both defense and offense. The Patriots need

2033
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 1: a talented, creative, aggressive offensive coach and we really really

2034
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 1: must look for one next season or sooner. I really

2035
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 1: do like Matt Jones, but right now, the entire system

2036
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:25,879
Speaker 1: isn't doing him any good. So the emailer is completely

2037
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 1: convinced that the talent is there, but the coaching's letting

2038
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 1: him down. Yeah, well he's saying it's not helping, that's

2039
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. I think it's more than that. I

2040
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 1: don't think this is all on the coaches. This is

2041
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 1: kind of what I feared before the season started, that

2042
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:43,640
Speaker 1: they'll get off to a slow start and it's all

2043
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:45,200
Speaker 1: going to be because of Matt Patricia And I'm not

2044
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 1: trying to defend Matt Patricia or Joe Judge. I think

2045
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 1: it's I think my feelings on the topic are well known.

2046
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 1: I think it was kind of foolish to set it

2047
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:57,559
Speaker 1: up this way. I just don't think that's why they struggle. Well,

2048
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's tough for me. I go

2049
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,559
Speaker 1: to the backs of the draft. We've talked plenty about

2050
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 1: the draft, and you know it's now Max hurt. I mean,

2051
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 1: you know we're waiting for Dugger to really take that step.

2052
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 1: He's hurt. Stevenson has looked good, like can we get

2053
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 1: him more action. It's just I think what what's troubling

2054
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 1: to me is is just to go back to that

2055
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 1: point of like these last three years of all feel

2056
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 1: kind of similar, and I just I don't feel like

2057
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 1: we're seeing players like Barmore take these strides. Yet we're

2058
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 1: not seeing Mac Jones year two taking significant strides. You know,

2059
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 1: everybody's just Dauch. He's not taking really any strides. Anthony

2060
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: Jennings was was, Oh, he's gonna be great this year.

2061
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he's kind of like hanging by your threats

2062
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 1: right edge. Rundown Active one game he barely played at

2063
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 1: another UM. And I'll take a shot at myself. You know,

2064
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:48,559
Speaker 1: probably around this time last year, I was clamoring right now,

2065
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:51,439
Speaker 1: to defend myself, I'll say I was clamoring for a

2066
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 1: lot of young players to get chances to play those

2067
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 1: a lot of those young players that have gotten chances

2068
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 1: to play haven't haven't looked great so far. And I'll

2069
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 1: give you one example of a player I think is excellent,

2070
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 1: and I kept saying he needs to play more. He's

2071
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 1: not just a third down guys. Barmore and Barnmore has

2072
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 1: gotten chances to play on more than just that are down,

2073
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 1: and it hasn't really been overly productive. In fairness, so

2074
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 1: I can, on one hand, I'm gonna make fun of

2075
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 1: myself by saying I was I was calling for more

2076
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 1: oocha and getting these guys involved. But on the other hand,

2077
01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, well, maybe if you had done that

2078
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 1: last year, they'd be further along in the development this year,

2079
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:28,599
Speaker 1: which is why I wanted them to play last year

2080
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 1: through the mistakes, and they, you know, in most cases,

2081
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:34,920
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to do that. Dave and Bethlehem,

2082
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 1: please comment on these points. One coach must take over

2083
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator job. Losing McDaniels, it's like losing your

2084
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:47,639
Speaker 1: right hand. Plays calls by Matricia Patricia are like using

2085
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 1: a mirror to get dress left handed. He's already knee

2086
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 1: deep in it. I mean, if it'll make you feel

2087
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:55,680
Speaker 1: better that he had set on and he's the one

2088
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 1: relaying them in. But I think his hands are all

2089
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 1: over every single play call that they make, regardless of

2090
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 1: who relays the call to mac Jones. I think he's

2091
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 1: been instrumental on offense so far to the detriment of

2092
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 1: the defense. I think there was a play that he

2093
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 1: might might have challenged in the Pittsburgh game that I

2094
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 1: don't think he ever saw because he was looking at

2095
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 1: the offense. And I think in this game that you know,

2096
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 1: people are like they just never did anything different than

2097
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 1: there was no because I think Bill's watching the offense.

2098
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 1: Bill's looking, he's talking to the offensive players when the

2099
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 1: defense is on the field, and that might be why

2100
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 1: the second half, you know, unraveled the way it did. Defensively.

2101
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 1: Two coaches, Callie and Troy Brown and Judge have been ineffective.

2102
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 1: Time to move on, Oh I don't, I don't know what,

2103
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 1: like based on what all he's looking at tight end

2104
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 1: play and so what about the tight end play hasn't

2105
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 1: been good? They're not playing they play, I mean they're

2106
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:46,599
Speaker 1: not producing well, they're not getting the ball thrown to them.

2107
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 1: Yeah three, Mac absolutely should get a running ball pretty well,

2108
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 1: aren't they. Mac absolutely should get a second opinion? Oh yeah,

2109
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 1: of course. I always agree with that. I always sigh

2110
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 1: with the player on that. And finally make John who

2111
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 1: earn his money, I agree with that. I think they're

2112
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 1: trying to. Yeah, I mean it just I think the

2113
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 1: ship is sailed on Jono Smith, like he's is there

2114
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 1: anything conventional when he's involved? Like one of the biggest

2115
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:17,639
Speaker 1: plays that he's made in is one in one year

2116
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:19,800
Speaker 1: in three games is the fourth down play that Max

2117
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:22,720
Speaker 1: somehow avoided seventeen guys trying to sack him and then

2118
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 1: he rolled out to the left and threw it to

2119
01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 1: Jonah Smith for the first time. Nothing to do with

2120
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 1: Jonathan Smith. He just happened to be the guy, right.

2121
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's frustate, frustrating for fans because

2122
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:36,879
Speaker 1: you watch other games like last night the Giants and Cowboys.

2123
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 1: I only saw the first half, but like you know,

2124
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 1: Jones was hitting his tight end and you know, not

2125
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 1: a lot of yards after catch. But the guys using

2126
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 1: the middle of the field the same way other teams

2127
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,599
Speaker 1: use the middle of the field against us, where they

2128
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:52,920
Speaker 1: scheme the tight end wide open in the middle of

2129
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 1: the field, and we haven't been able to do that

2130
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 1: for some reason. But it seems like it seems like

2131
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 1: every team is able to do that. I just wouldn't

2132
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:03,200
Speaker 1: put that on the tight ends. I'd put it on Mac. Yeah, okay,

2133
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:05,720
Speaker 1: I just think the problem the tight ends that I've

2134
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:07,679
Speaker 1: come to realize is that they're neither here nor there,

2135
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 1: Like neither one of them can really block, and neither

2136
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:12,599
Speaker 1: one of them are really plus athletes. Now, I think

2137
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:16,640
Speaker 1: they're functional NFL tight ends better than like Lacosse and

2138
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 1: Ryan Izzo from a couple of years ago when you

2139
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 1: were like, oh my gosh, we really have nothing. So

2140
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:22,639
Speaker 1: I don't want to make it sound like they're that bad,

2141
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 1: but I don't think they move the needle as blockers

2142
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 1: or as receivers really, And yeah, that's just like they're fine.

2143
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. And then you know, with

2144
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:31,560
Speaker 1: the receivers, when was the last time they had a

2145
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 1: hundred yard receiver before this year. They didn't have any

2146
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 1: last year, right, I don't think so, might have been

2147
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: like Edelman or or maybe they had one. I don't know,

2148
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 1: did one have one hundred in that Dallas game we

2149
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 1: had the seventy five yard touchdown. The point is it

2150
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:50,599
Speaker 1: was a long time between one hundred yard receivers. Then

2151
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 1: they had one in Week two, and they had one

2152
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 1: in Week three. Different guys, by the way, like, so, Ty,

2153
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:58,720
Speaker 1: why is Troy Brown on the hot seat? Yea, what

2154
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:03,719
Speaker 1: did he do? Yeah? Yes, I'm defensive. I'm a little

2155
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,880
Speaker 1: defensive there, but I like I I'm not a big

2156
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 1: fan of the position. Coaches stink because the guys that

2157
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 1: play that position had a bad year. And I don't

2158
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 1: think that they're having bad years. I just I think

2159
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:17,800
Speaker 1: there's been plenty of examples where Henry's been open and

2160
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 1: they haven't thrown it to him. Christians in La, what's up, Christian?

2161
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 1: Hey you guys, how are you doing. How's everyone feeling today?

2162
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 1: Very good man? Yeah, little mondays, So, you know, I

2163
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:36,600
Speaker 1: was thinking that and hear me out here that it

2164
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 1: might not be the worst thing ever that Mac has

2165
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:43,600
Speaker 1: hurt for a bit. I think in a sense it's

2166
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 1: a pressure release. It takes the heat off of Mac

2167
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 1: in the way, it takes the heat off of the

2168
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 1: coach in the way, it actually takes the heat off

2169
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,560
Speaker 1: the team in the way. And if Dappy comes in

2170
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 1: and he does it at best Cooper Rush, let's say

2171
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:58,759
Speaker 1: for five six weeks and build some trade capital or whatever,

2172
01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 1: we might wind up even with a high draft pick

2173
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 1: this year because our quarterback got hurt and we were

2174
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:07,320
Speaker 1: out of the six games in blah blah blah, and

2175
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:09,600
Speaker 1: we wind up with a really great receiver that I

2176
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 1: think it could be a difference maker next year. What

2177
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 1: do you guys think about thinking that way or that

2178
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:18,640
Speaker 1: my way of saying, let's tank. Yeah, well, yeah, you know,

2179
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be Zappy by the way. Yeah,

2180
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 1: I just think it's not fair. But to Zappy, Yeah,

2181
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 1: I mean, well the rest of the players. I mean,

2182
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 1: that's you know, that could be the result. But I

2183
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think people are worried about

2184
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,680
Speaker 1: Max's development for the most play. Yeah. I mean to

2185
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 1: go back to Paul's point, I mean, if he misses

2186
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 1: enough games that they're that bad, then it's kind of

2187
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 1: hard to draft a quarterback and thanks for the call.

2188
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:43,839
Speaker 1: I also just think and that's why I was instantly

2189
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 1: like I would say, yes, you have to consider it,

2190
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 1: but I don't think they will. I think Mac Jones

2191
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 1: is there kind of guy that they like to work with,

2192
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 1: and they believe that kind of guy is what they

2193
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 1: want at that position. So that's why I think they

2194
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:56,639
Speaker 1: would they would ride with him. I think they would

2195
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 1: look somewhere else. I mean, and I'm saying this is

2196
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 1: somebody who thinks that you consider all options for sure,

2197
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 1: but I would be surprised if they went out and

2198
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 1: instantly took another quarterback, especially if it was because Mac

2199
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 1: missed like ten to fifteen game, or you know, whatever

2200
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 1: it is. It's hard to do, hard to lose your

2201
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 1: job like that. Jacket and Aba writes in When one

2202
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 1: gets down to brass tacks, the analysis of the Patriots

2203
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:22,759
Speaker 1: lost to the Ravens is relatively simple. Ravens super athletic

2204
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 1: quarterback Lamar Jackson took over the game in the fourth quarter.

2205
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 1: The Patriots needed one of two things to counter Jackson.

2206
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 1: Either the Patriots needed multiple very athletic defenders, which the

2207
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 1: Patriots don't have, or the Patriots needed multiple offensive playmakers

2208
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 1: to make the plays to outweigh Jackson, which the Patriots

2209
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:43,400
Speaker 1: don't have. Until one of those things changes, the Patriots

2210
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 1: will continue to struggle. Well, I mean, yes against Lamar

2211
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:50,439
Speaker 1: Jackson in that offense. I mean, I you know, and

2212
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 1: I mean really it looked it wasn't quite as bad

2213
01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 1: as twenty nineteen was, but it was kind of similar,

2214
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 1: and that Lamar was kind of doing whatever he wanted

2215
01:48:57,160 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 1: with the ball down in at the end. But you know,

2216
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,720
Speaker 1: I still think they're unique. And I wouldn't like if

2217
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:05,600
Speaker 1: Mac hadn't gotten hurt at this game, I would have

2218
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:08,719
Speaker 1: been in just throw this game out, stop making mistakes.

2219
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 1: You you prove that you can, at least for a

2220
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 1: good chunk of a team, look like you belong out

2221
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 1: there and go back and forth with them a little

2222
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 1: bit and score more points than a lot of people did.

2223
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:18,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Hardy's key was scored twenty four. They they

2224
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:21,680
Speaker 1: scored twenty six, So um, you know, so, I mean

2225
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:24,040
Speaker 1: there were elements there. It's just I think it's it's

2226
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 1: hard to feel great after the Mac injury, and you know,

2227
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 1: you just you feel like you're putting that whole development

2228
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 1: down for a little bit until he's back. Tony says,

2229
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:35,680
Speaker 1: it's not turning around this year. It's a four to

2230
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 1: five year rebuild starting last year. Don't look for game

2231
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 1: to game improvement. You will see up and down movement

2232
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 1: for the next couple of years. It is what it is.

2233
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 1: The team lacks talent. Yeah, but he was saying that

2234
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 1: for three I mean, why why is this year one? Like,

2235
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:52,519
Speaker 1: why couldn't twenty twenty have been your Well, he's saying

2236
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:55,360
Speaker 1: last year was year, last year was It's twenty twenty

2237
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:59,439
Speaker 1: was last year? Burn it off? Yeah, when they signed

2238
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 1: all the free agents. By the way, Brett and Austen

2239
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 1: writes in can we please go with Zappy for the

2240
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:08,439
Speaker 1: time that Jones is out? What good is it going

2241
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:11,639
Speaker 1: to be to go with Hoyer these next few games? Yes,

2242
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 1: he provides us the best chance to win, But with

2243
01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:17,880
Speaker 1: this season in this team, I think we would get

2244
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 1: more out of having Zappy played than Hoyer. At least

2245
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:24,280
Speaker 1: it would be interesting to watch. I see, I'm really

2246
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:28,599
Speaker 1: confused by some definitions of interesting. If you were right now,

2247
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:30,760
Speaker 1: if you were sitting with a record off, like let's

2248
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:35,560
Speaker 1: just say I don't know four and six, and you

2249
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: wanted to make an argument for Zappy. I could understand,

2250
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:43,160
Speaker 1: you're one and two, you have fourteen games left. You're

2251
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:44,640
Speaker 1: telling me that you shouldn't go with the guy who

2252
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 1: gives you the best chance to win. Right. Let's say

2253
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 1: that you think he's got to play four games, and

2254
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 1: you're thinking, just somehow find a way to go two

2255
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 1: and two, and you think Hoyer gives you a significantly

2256
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:00,560
Speaker 1: better chance than Zappy. Yeah, let me have to go

2257
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 1: too and two? Right, Yeah, the season's not over. Let

2258
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 1: me ask a question if or And do you know

2259
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 1: he's an emailer so I can't ask him personally. But

2260
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:12,840
Speaker 1: if somehow the Patriots had won that game and Mac

2261
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 1: got hurt at the end the same way he did,

2262
01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 1: and he was going to be out for an extended

2263
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 1: period of time, great point. Would you be saying the

2264
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:23,680
Speaker 1: same thing? No, you'd a great point when you know, yeah, right,

2265
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:26,519
Speaker 1: we show we could be a team. Right. What if

2266
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 1: on that last play he threw a touchdown and it

2267
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 1: was a game winning touchdown, right, and then he would

2268
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,439
Speaker 1: everybody be saying you should go with Zappi. At least

2269
01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 1: it'd be interesting, right, It's it's just the difference of

2270
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 1: one game. Do you have hop lipped down to the

2271
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 1: rate on one leg. Yes, the only thing missing was

2272
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 1: the tennis racket getting fired across the field. But I

2273
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:50,160
Speaker 1: just think that people, you know, we are reactionary, and

2274
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:52,760
Speaker 1: we we got exposed a little bit in this game.

2275
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:57,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, and I think that um people are you know,

2276
01:51:57,800 --> 01:51:59,560
Speaker 1: knee jerk a little bit. It's just the appeal of

2277
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 1: the un I think they only people suggest that is

2278
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 1: that they think that there's a chance that Bailey z

2279
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:06,960
Speaker 1: Appy is going to come in and be magically a superstar.

2280
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 1: And you're like, oh my gosh, look it happened again.

2281
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 1: Listen if they had to play, if Mac is let's

2282
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 1: just say Mac is out long terne, Let's say Mac

2283
01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 1: is out for two months. I don't necessarily want to

2284
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 1: watch Brian Hoyer for eight or nine games unless he

2285
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:23,719
Speaker 1: I mean, unless he comes out wins like the first

2286
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 1: three or four. Let's face it, If they pull off

2287
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 1: an upset on Sunday, then it's Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago. But

2288
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 1: watch those are winnable games. Watching Bailey z Appy is

2289
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 1: only good if he comes right out and is good.

2290
01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that you guys think that Mac

2291
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:44,720
Speaker 1: Jones was up and down on Sunday. Yeah, right, you

2292
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:46,880
Speaker 1: don't know a lot up on Bowns. I don't know

2293
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 1: what I did there. Yeah, I don't either. But bailey'sz appy,

2294
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:53,679
Speaker 1: and this is no disrespect to him. Is nowhere near

2295
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Speaker 1: ready to play in an NFL game. Yep, Philip a

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01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 1: is in Rio de Janeiro. Just to support Paul's argument

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01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 1: in relation to turnovers, don't you think that the script

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01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 1: is always the same because the team is not that

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01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 1: talented and it is under tremendous pressure just to keep

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01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 1: up with the opposition. In other words, we have to

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01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:17,920
Speaker 1: go above and beyond just to compete, and that's why

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01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 1: turnovers have been on the rise. It's no coincidence that

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01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:24,720
Speaker 1: those mistakes don't happen against lesser competition. This is who

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01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 1: the team has been. Is not something that we can

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01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:30,960
Speaker 1: just ignore and hope to go away unless we acquire

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Speaker 1: more talent. Yeah, I agree, like the large part of that.

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Speaker 1: I agree. Like, yeah, when you're behind and you're chasing

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Speaker 1: two schools in the second half of games, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: turn the ball over. That's that's what happens. Do you

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Speaker 1: know that he's played twenty one games now? Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: twenty one starts. Counting the playoff game, he's eleven and

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Speaker 1: ten you know what, you touchdowns and interceptions. He has

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01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 1: twenty six touchdowns, twenty picks, twenty one games, twenty picks.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of picks. Yeah, okay, you don't think

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Speaker 1: so won a game, No, it is, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just I'm not surprised. I had to see. I am.

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Speaker 1: He's guys that's supposed to not make mistakes, supposed to

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01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:15,000
Speaker 1: protect the well that I mean, that wouldn't be surprised

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01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 1: if it was like early Drew Bledsoe, who throws it

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01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 1: all over the place recklessly. What he had what thirteen

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01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:25,599
Speaker 1: last year? Thirteen picks? I think that's yes, right, yeah,

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01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 1: which isn't bad, you know, right, But this year he's

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01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 1: got eight five five to win the playoff game. Oh okay.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting though to hear you say those, because I

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01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 1: hadn't looked them up or specifically looked at them. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just think it's like everything. I think

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01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 1: last year Mac was about in the middle of the

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01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 1: league as a quarterback. I think those are about middling

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01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:48,320
Speaker 1: average numbers. Like you know, it's it's it's hard to

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01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:51,480
Speaker 1: get off of he's an average quarterback. To me, if

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01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 1: you're going to throw a pick a game, you need

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01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 1: to be like Patrick Mahomes or you know, Brett Farve,

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01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 1: one of these guys. That's just yeah, Josh Allen, you're

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01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 1: running all You're running all over the field, you throw

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01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:06,080
Speaker 1: a pick and you come back next drive and score.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw five touchdowns. I might throw a pick

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Speaker 1: on the way because I'm gonna try to make these

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01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 1: incredible plays all over the field, and more often than not,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. But every once in a while,

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01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:17,840
Speaker 1: one's gonna get away. You can't have the no touchdowns

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01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 1: with the three picks, you know, that's and that's you're

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01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:22,560
Speaker 1: you're getting at it right now because it's it's just

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01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 1: exhausted on the edge. I might I might be able

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01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 1: to I might finish them off on Sunday. Friend. It's

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01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 1: it's just it's got to be tough as a player

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01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 1: to believe that you have to be perfect every game.

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01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 1: We can't make mistakes. We you know we can't. We

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01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:37,840
Speaker 1: don't have the pieces to overcome them. We have to

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01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 1: play perfect every week. And I just wonder how much

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01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 1: that pressure is kind of built up or it's just

2351
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 1: like you can't go in every week feeling like you

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01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:47,440
Speaker 1: need to be perfect. You need enough playmakers on both

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01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 1: sides of the ball that we're gonna have some wiggle room.

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01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna go after it. We're gonna be aggressive, we're

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01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 1: gonna make some mistakes, but we have enough to over Bills,

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01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 1: you know, like his his old thing. They'd be in

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01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 1: meetings and Bill be like, don't be the guy that

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01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 1: makes them. They're like, well it for all the guy,

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01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:04,960
Speaker 1: then is it okay? I am Spartacus. I made the mistakes.

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Speaker 1: All right. That's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots.

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Speaker 1: I promise we'll see brighter things tomorrow on Wednesday, when

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