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Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with

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Speaker 1: Blue Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot

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Speaker 1: Brothers at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for

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Speaker 1: everything cannabis.

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Speaker 2: Craig, as we start to show you and I I

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Speaker 2: want to hear you start the show. Please. Everybody else'll

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Speaker 2: been waiting for it. We've been getting calls and emails.

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Speaker 3: I just got a call the other day at eight

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Speaker 3: hundred and four to twenty nineteen eighty and they go,

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Speaker 3: I really want to hear Craig Washerman start the show.

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Speaker 2: Show utique he can do it or he's he going

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Speaker 2: to have an old man moment. And I go, you

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Speaker 2: know what, I'm going to bring it up when I'm

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Speaker 2: around him, and I want him to do it. And

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Speaker 2: let's see Craig kick off the show three two one go.

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Speaker 4: Talk one on one at pot Brothers at law with

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Speaker 4: underscore under each word. Marcus was law, Craig is wost

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Speaker 4: law dog, Blue is at one Christopher Wright, and I

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Speaker 4: am was law dog, not Joe Gronde.

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Speaker 3: And let me bring you the news, and I am

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Speaker 3: at Joe Grande fifty two. Thank you for not giving

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Speaker 3: me a fucking plug jerkoff. So I think it was

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Speaker 3: Stacy and Baker wasn't bad though, right, Well, I don't know, guys.

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Speaker 3: Can I get a thumbs up or thumbs down? Thumbs sideways?

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Speaker 3: I give it a thumbs down. I mean, Pitch is

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Speaker 3: looking for a free lawyer fee. He's giving you double

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Speaker 3: thumbs up.

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Speaker 5: Jeez, it's in there, in there, So that was great.

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Speaker 2: Blues not here right now, he'll be walking in shortly,

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Speaker 2: and so let me start busy. So let's get to somebody.

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Speaker 4: Let me start with the Texas Democratic congressional candidate Donna

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Speaker 4: Iman is supporting the criminalization of marijuana and backs legislation.

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Speaker 2: Donna, I'm in huh.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So that's that's one of my every when I

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Speaker 4: try to get one of those in. Now, we had

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Speaker 4: a a I don't forget where we even talked about.

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Speaker 4: This might have been on a podcast. I was doing

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Speaker 4: interview actually the other night on a podcast. I'm a

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Speaker 4: guy from Chicago, and they had this fucked up lag.

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Speaker 4: You know, they have legal adult use and medical, but

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Speaker 4: they were telling us that if a cop can sert

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Speaker 4: you for smell because listen to this statue.

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Speaker 5: Let me just read the statue. It is absolutely insane.

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Speaker 4: Now, violation of this statue can bring a jail time

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Speaker 4: of six of three hundred and sixty four days. So

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Speaker 4: it's just under a year and a fine of up

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Speaker 4: to twenty five hundred dollars. Okay, if you violate this statue, Okay,

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Speaker 4: just under a year and up to twenty five hundred dollars.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 4: Possession of adult use cannabis in a motor vehicle A

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Speaker 4: no driver may use cannabis within the passenger area of

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Speaker 4: a motor vehicle upon a highway in the state.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, that's far. I'm waiting for the crazy B.

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Speaker 4: No driver may possess cannabis within an area of any

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Speaker 4: the state, except in a sealed, odor proof child resistant

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Speaker 3: But back up, though, because Blue came up and I

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Speaker 3: don't know how you know, I'll read it because he's

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Speaker 2: We knew he's coming in here.

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Speaker 4: No driver may possess cannabis within any area of the

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Speaker 4: it's basically, it's got to be in a sealed odor

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Speaker 2: They can't be on the highway with it.

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Speaker 4: No, no, you you if you're on the highway, it

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Speaker 4: has to be in a container, a sealed, odor proof

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Speaker 2: That's right, right, Well we're gonna crazy.

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Speaker 5: You're ready, all right, here we go.

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Speaker 2: And that's B section C and this is in Illinois

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Speaker 4: Second section C is actually the same as B, but

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Speaker 4: it applies to a passenger.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so anybody else in the car, you got to

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Speaker 4: In an in a in an odor proof, sealed child

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Speaker 2: It's funny. I remember these two guys driving home from

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Speaker 4: have been fun. Okay, now this is the kicker. This

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Speaker 4: is a kicker Section D. Any person who knowingly violates

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Speaker 4: commits a class A misdemeanor. So if a cop can smell.

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Speaker 2: It, it's automatic automatic.

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Speaker 4: And now they're bringing the dogs to check the c

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Speaker 4: if you violated this code section?

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Speaker 2: Who let the dogs out?

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Speaker 4: We were listening to this guy going it just doesn't

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Speaker 5: So you better have a damn good odor proof.

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Speaker 2: Don't take a hit in the car dog in Illinois

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Speaker 2: no more. You can't do that. When they're screwing you

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Speaker 2: able to go, why legal problem with that law? And

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Speaker 2: let me let me say, well, you just can't the

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Speaker 5: No, no, it's you break it up, break up a

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Speaker 6: Let me finish this finish so you could listen and

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Speaker 5: Know what you're gonna say.

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Speaker 2: So when you break it up, So when.

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Speaker 6: You break it up in your car, and then you

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Speaker 6: you just roll it for tomorrow. That fire and then

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Speaker 6: and you get back in your car, and they could

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Speaker 6: smell it because it's on your hands, you're screwed.

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Speaker 4: If they can smell it coming from the trunk, you're screwed.

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Speaker 2: But not from the car or from yourself.

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Speaker 4: No, if they smell it and you're carrying it, you're

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Speaker 6: But but if you're not carrying it, though, and they

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Speaker 6: smell it on your hands, there's nothing to violate.

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Speaker 4: But they will search your car to see if you're

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Speaker 4: carrying it not in a The section isn't if you smell.

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Speaker 2: They don't want to make it. They don't want to smell.

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Speaker 4: What they're saying is, if you're carrying the legal amount

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Speaker 4: and it can be smelled, buy the cop that's a ticket.

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Speaker 5: That's a miss to mean.

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Speaker 2: To the store and buy weed legally. And then because

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Speaker 5: You better.

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 5: We need to go to Illinois.

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Speaker 2: Let's just get a spray and sprays and you're the guy.

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Speaker 2: You're the guy.

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Speaker 5: You're the guy.

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Speaker 4: This is what we're gonna do, and this is all

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Speaker 4: my knowledge, right and you can do everything else. So

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Speaker 4: we're gonna go to Illinois. You know how to do

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Speaker 4: radio campaigns, we're gonna do. We're gonna get the best

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Speaker 4: smell proof containers on earth, and we're gonna blitz all

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Speaker 5: So when they buy.

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Speaker 4: Their ship, even though it's contained and it's sealed and

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Speaker 4: you might not be able to smell it when you

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Speaker 4: the smell proof containers that we're gonna sell and they

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Speaker 4: don't have to worry about violating the section.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's nice. I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 6: So you're saying this market a little smell proof you know,

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Speaker 6: pencil box.

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Speaker 2: For an example that they open up. We should do that. Now,

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Speaker 2: that'd be fantastic to do that. Blue, What do you think?

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Speaker 2: You know what? I should probably knock it out by now,

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Speaker 2: why why don't we go do that together? We'll open

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Speaker 4: It's not a matter of actually smelling like weed. It's

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Speaker 4: smelling like weed and carrying the legal amount will get

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Speaker 4: you in trouble up to a year and up to

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Speaker 4: a year in jail and twenty fine.

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Speaker 2: Is that and it only goes to C or that

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Speaker 2: was that?

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Speaker 4: D D oh yeah, so so that's just screwed. That

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Speaker 4: I actually have work to do. Did a Tennessee senator

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Speaker 4: went to let's see, he took a road trip to Illinois.

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Speaker 4: There is a picture. I wish I had the picture

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Speaker 4: able to show everybody. But someone took a picture of

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Speaker 4: V from Tennessee right in front of a dispensary in Illinois.

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Speaker 4: Oh so, and in Tennessee it's both medically and adult

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Speaker 4: use completely illegal. So you have someone who works for

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Speaker 2: Yeah well, I mean that's what and you did on

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Speaker 5: Now they don't have anything.

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Speaker 4: It's not like any other license plate where you can

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Speaker 4: see who it is. Unfortunately, the way the state, it

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Speaker 4: could have been photoshopped. I mean license I don't think

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Speaker 5: It did not look photoshopped, but they know who. But

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Speaker 5: you're right, anything to be shoto.

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Speaker 2: Shop, no photoshopp I don't know what shot good I said,

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Speaker 5: To be clear, I finished my water. I thought I was.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about where Shuto shop is.

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Speaker 2: But if they photoshopped that picture, you know what rove

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Speaker 2: and that's.

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Speaker 4: You have you Have you ever done?

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Speaker 2: I bought eight times in the ring? Yes?

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Speaker 4: Really well, I think we should put a ring up

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Speaker 4: right here and me and you go speaking guy, shoot

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Speaker 4: right at your knees. Brother, maybe I'll kick you in

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Speaker 4: one hip you go straight down on me. I'd like that,

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Speaker 4: sir anytime. This is Craig Watson and of the pop

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Speaker 4: Brothers at Law, Big Brother. And that was your cannabis

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Speaker 2: Terry brings us in and this is to.

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Speaker 5: To get your podcast. We will see you after this

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one on one and we

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Speaker 2: have an amazing guest for you today named Terry Miller.

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Speaker 2: Well it's funny as Craig had to leave the room

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Speaker 2: and we were talking about you know, cannabis and laws

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Speaker 2: and regulations out in Illinois. Terry Miller is a good

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Speaker 2: friend of mine that works out there in the cannabis industry.

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Speaker 2: How are you, terry, thank you for coming on the

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Speaker 7: Hi, You're welcome, glad to be here, and everything's great

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because I was hearing these rules and

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Speaker 2: regulations in Chicago and Craig Washerman, one of the populars

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Speaker 2: at law, was just explaining one of the laws in saying,

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Speaker 7: Yes, because you get those coas back, and you get

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Speaker 7: Uh. Well, you know that's what you can do with

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Speaker 2: Awesome, we're talking to Terry Miller.

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Speaker 7: Ran go ahead, Terry, Yeah, oh, I was just gonna say. So,

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Speaker 2: Will this go hand in hand with with metrics or

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Speaker 7: why are we doing barcodes? This doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 6: Right, You'll be able to to either they're either going

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Speaker 7: We're talking to abilities are so much greater.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to my friend Terry Miller out of Illinois

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Speaker 7: You know what I mean. I'll tell you what You've

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Speaker 7: And almost no application that we're currently running do benefits

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, we can do all of it.

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Speaker 6: looking through his place and I'm sitting there and I'm

440
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 6: going cool, and he goes, you know, we don't really

441
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 6: have that many customers, you know, believe or not. And

442
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 6: he's sitting on the highway to all these people and

443
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 6: I'm looking at the packaging and I'm like, let me

444
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 6: see the product. Then he has these jars, old school

445
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 6: jar style. You know, it used to be like you

446
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 6: knows jars, Yeah, old school Mason jars, the big one,

447
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 6: so you know. And then you get chopsticks and he

448
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,400
Speaker 6: was like, here's smell it. And I'm like, you guys

449
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,360
Speaker 6: are still doing that, like you know what I mean,

450
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 6: Like that that's like how we did it in the

451
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 6: Trap House, you know. And then and then it was

452
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 6: like yeah, we we you know, that's that's how we

453
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Speaker 6: prefer to serve it. And I'm looking at all their

454
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 6: their their packaging, and I'm going, where's all the brands

455
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 6: at you know, for us, we see all these brands

456
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 6: and the stuff going on over here, and they're they're

457
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 6: hitting the market and you're like, oh, you know, Steezy

458
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 6: just hit West Coast, John go boy, yeah, crew just.

459
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: Just plans, you know.

460
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Speaker 6: And then and then you go to these places and

461
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 6: there's like they're like, you know, pulling it straight out

462
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 6: the bag and just dropping it on your plate.

463
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Speaker 2: No brand, ain't no nothing, no recognition, which is good

464
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 2: for the people that are that know, but you would

465
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: think it'd be cheaper than that way, but that no.

466
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Speaker 6: Well still so so this is the the the growers,

467
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 6: you know, taxing not branding, the license dispensaries and the

468
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 6: district justtros and everybody putting their tax on it.

469
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Speaker 2: And then boom they're getting you know, over sold. So

470
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 2: it's it's uh, it's a trip. So you're back to

471
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 2: the black market then hunt Harry.

472
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Speaker 7: Well just for a minute, you know, I really can't

473
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Speaker 7: in good face to stay there since what I'm really

474
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 7: trying to do is just you know, help this, you know,

475
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Speaker 7: like move us along here.

476
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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate your honesty, though at least you're telling

477
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Speaker 2: the truth. You know.

478
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Speaker 6: I think we all smoke at the black market once

479
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Speaker 6: in a while, isn't everybody.

480
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: My boy over here looks like, well, if you need

481
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 2: some more me It's funny. The only time we go

482
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Speaker 2: to here's.

483
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Speaker 7: A stupid Illinois law for you. So you're check this

484
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 7: one out. So if you you are a medical card holder,

485
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 7: you can only go to one dispensary one and you

486
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 7: have to choose that dispensary on your application. So when

487
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 7: you go to get your your card, you have to

488
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 7: know where you want to go.

489
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Speaker 2: I remember you were.

490
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Speaker 3: Getting your card when we were talking. You're you're actually

491
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 3: getting your card. We're doing stuff together. That's so funny.

492
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like eighty days.

493
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 7: It took like eighty five days for me. But this

494
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 7: is a long time.

495
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Speaker 2: This is you know, a couple of years ago. That

496
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Speaker 2: is that is pretty one store. That's stupid. Yeah, I mean,

497
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Speaker 2: because what if you're on the side of town, are

498
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: you leave out of town and you want to go

499
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Speaker 2: somewhere else, Well, you're camping and.

500
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Speaker 7: There, you know, go to Michigan. Michigan will honor Michigan's

501
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 7: rest property. They'll get they'll honor my card. Some states will,

502
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Speaker 7: but Illinois one dispensary only is kind of garbage because no,

503
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 7: I've changed my dispensary a couple of times. You could

504
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 7: do it for free. You can do it online, but

505
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 7: it still takes a few days for somebody to switch you.

506
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Speaker 7: But wow, give me the breaks.

507
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then and then that store, if they let

508
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 2: you in, they're in violation, and then they're either going

509
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: to find or shut down or how does that work?

510
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 2: You know?

511
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 7: I would say that again.

512
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 2: So you switch the stores, right, and you're in limbo. Right,

513
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: You go from this store to that store and you go, oh,

514
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 2: I just switched over to your store, and they go, Okay,

515
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: they let you in, but you really didn't switch it.

516
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: And then do they get fined if they let get

517
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 2: caught doing that? How do they regulate that?

518
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 7: You know what? I don't have any idea. I think

519
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 7: it would see my name would be delivered to them

520
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 7: and their system somehow. Because when you go and you

521
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 7: check in, you said scan your card. They used to

522
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 7: look at your card, but now that COVID, they scan

523
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 7: your card and make sure whatever you show up in

524
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,479
Speaker 7: the system and then you can shop. But you know,

525
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 7: I'm if you didn't show up in their system, whether

526
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 7: or not you had a card as an active patient,

527
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 7: I think it's flagged you and they wouldn't let you shop.

528
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 6: Well, guys, we're sitting here with Terry Miller out of

529
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Speaker 6: Chicago from.

530
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Speaker 2: Sigma Key and we'll be right back after this point.

531
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one on one. We're live

532
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: right here with Terry Miller from Chicago and signa Key. Now.

533
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Speaker 6: Signa Key has an amazing tracking system and we want

534
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Speaker 6: to thank you for joining us on the show. And

535
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Speaker 6: right now we're going to hop right into the the

536
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Speaker 6: High five with Terry.

537
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 3: And before we do it with Terry, I just want

538
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 3: to make sure I think the crud's working so hard

539
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: with us. Pitt, Peanut, Jeremy, Jennifer, Elvis, thank you guys

540
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 3: all for.

541
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Speaker 2: Everything we do and big o' Chubbs too. Question number one, Terry,

542
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Speaker 2: I know you didn't know this was coming, but this

543
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Speaker 2: is the High five and we want your good old

544
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 2: Illinois answers. How old are you the first time you

545
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: smoked weed? And where'd you get it from?

546
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 7: Let's see my best friend at the time, and I.

547
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: Was followed the fourteen best friend. Who were you go

548
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 2: at school? Where were you guys at Yeah?

549
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 3: It was I think we used to feel.

550
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 7: Cigarettes from her mom. But she was like one of

551
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 7: those kids who just had access to stuff, and I

552
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 7: think she got it from her mom, friend at work

553
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 7: or something, and we got a joint something right.

554
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 6: Question question number two? What is your favorite way to

555
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 6: use or smoke cannabis?

556
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 7: I'm pure analog all flowers.

557
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: All flower just a regular joint. Are you trying to

558
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: do a backwood or bong?

559
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 7: What? All? Well, you know the joint based you know,

560
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 7: sadly could be behind us. I can't do a whole

561
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 7: one by myself be functional, but yeah, I got one hitter.

562
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 7: I got a classic, you know, uh from the long

563
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 7: long ago. I have a dugout.

564
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Speaker 2: Nice, craziest place most places Terry Miller. Craziest place you've

565
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: ever smoked weed?

566
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Speaker 7: Oh goodness, Uh.

567
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even I don't know.

568
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 7: I would say probably before every single service industry interview

569
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Speaker 7: I've ever done, I've ever gone on as a bartender

570
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 7: because I didn't want them to have any other version

571
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 7: of me.

572
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: I was hoping you're going to say in that alley

573
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: by your house. I remember you telling me about that alley.

574
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: Question number four of the high five, what is your

575
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: go to munchie after you get high?

576
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 7: I don't munchie, I just don't. But I guess it

577
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 7: would be dark chocolate. And then it's just got to

578
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 7: line up with this, you know, moon cycles. I'm not

579
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Speaker 7: any gal.

580
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: That's all good. Well, dark chocolate is a good little mounch.

581
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: A lot of times, you know, someone says, you know,

582
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: my go to munchie would be you know, Carrick Herrots

583
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: and Hunt. Yeah, you know people have said that. But

584
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 2: if you're not a munchy person, that's good. You little

585
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: supermodel over there. Okay. Question number five with Terry Miller

586
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: from signey Quy out in Illinois. If you could smoke

587
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 2: with anyone dead are alive? Who would it be? Wow?

588
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 7: Dead are alive? Holy mackerel. I don't know, kind of

589
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 7: the creators from South Park Parker Stones. That'd be fun,

590
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 7: you know, I was. I think that'd be a real hoop.

591
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 7: And then maybe maybe our rotten president.

592
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, just to get high with Trump, But why not,

593
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: let's go. You know what, Terry, that's a good one.

594
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: That's a real good.

595
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 7: Well.

596
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming on with us, babe, and always

597
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 2: get to catch up with you and I will talk soon.

598
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: Take care, Thank you all right, thank you so much,

599
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: no doubt. Bye bye, Terry.

600
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 3: So it's funny, Becau, as we talked to you know,

601
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 3: the whole reason why we call there is because Craig

602
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 3: was saying that story about Illinois.

603
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: I want to tell you something else that I heard

604
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: about Illinois right now. The governor of Illinois, he did

605
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: an executive order delaying the insurance of eighty plus marijuana

606
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: business permits. They were scheduled to be awarded on July first,

607
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: and he just nope, not going to happen. The Chicago

608
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: Tribune is reporting that the Governor JB. Pritzkers ordered delay

609
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: undefined forty new craft cultivated permits and forty infusire license

610
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: and an uncapped number of transporter permits or no delivery services.

611
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: None of that's there's also no indication when the licenses

612
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: might be given out. And you know, this just has

613
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: some people worried about that because these people were going hard,

614
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: saving up money, buying properties.

615
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 5: Do it.

616
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: You know what you have to do to get that

617
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: stuff rolling. There's so much and if you're looking forward

618
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: to July first, with all this pandemic that's been going

619
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: on and all the money you haven't been making maybe

620
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,239
Speaker 2: on your main hustle side hustle, and this is your

621
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: other new hustle. It's a fucked up situation for these

622
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: cats out there in Illinois that we're expecting to be

623
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Speaker 2: rewarded on July first.

624
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Speaker 6: Well, I've spent months with a an applicant helping them

625
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 6: fill out their license.

626
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: I mean months. I mean we spent months on it.

627
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 6: And you know, we went through every single portion of that,

628
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 6: you know that the application, and you know it's it's

629
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 6: funny because while you're going through the application, you know

630
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 6: there's there's questions that are in there that are almost

631
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 6: you know, very they're very technical, you know, to the

632
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 6: field of who, you know, who you're dealing with, for

633
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 6: an example, security plans, you know, and you know, square

634
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 6: footage from the lens of the camera, and.

635
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: There's so many things right, it's just.

636
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 6: Crazy, the fence lines and where this stuff has to sit,

637
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 6: what should be there, and it's so difficult to get

638
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 6: through it. And it's costly too, because what you end

639
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 6: up doing, if you're smart, is you you basically hire

640
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 6: someone to give you a bid and you go, Okay,

641
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 6: here's the imaginary facility or here's the facility I have

642
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 6: in target, and what is it going to take to

643
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 6: put a security at this?

644
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: You know, security in this facility.

645
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 6: And when you start to talk about security and you

646
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 6: don't know nothing about security, you know, you think, oh,

647
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 6: you know, throw a few cameras up, and you know, no,

648
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 6: there's it's a lot more of an intelligent process because

649
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 6: you're talking about security plans that actually go that go

650
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 6: direct and work entangle with the state that so that

651
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 6: they can actually monitor for you and with you.

652
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: So while those loot were losing there the state tapping

653
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: into your security system absolutely ye really generally generally it's

654
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: not the state, it's the the police department. Now, so

655
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: the police local PD. Can you tap into a dispensary

656
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: security system? Correct? I had no idea that's the case now.

657
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 6: So so if it and they'll pick times and days

658
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 6: where they're monitoring yours. So a lot of times you know,

659
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 6: they might be watching your store and you know, then

660
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 6: they go to.

661
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: Another store and they watch that store and they're gonna

662
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: pick all the legal stuff is not going down no more.

663
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: I can't imagine.

664
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 6: Well it is, you know, one hundred percent is Oh

665
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 6: it's Chicago.

666
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's happening, bro. So if it's happening there,

667
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: oh dude.

668
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 6: Dispensaries listen, listen, legal ones absolutely, man. And I'm not

669
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 6: saying backdoor deals all day. Oh my gosh, dude, you

670
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 6: know you know, here's the deal. The distros, the dispensaries,

671
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 6: the grows, the extractors, the all the operators, the deliveries.

672
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 6: There are loose ends everywhere.

673
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: My point is on site. I know loose ends everywhere. Absolutely.

674
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: I mean that's where it gets there. It gets sloppy

675
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: to me. It's like, come on, man, don't eat where

676
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: you know, don't ship where you eat.

677
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 6: So some of the rules that that that are in play,

678
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 6: and I don't know them by heart, so don't quote

679
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 6: me on these. But but but here's an example of

680
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 6: my interpretation of the rule is that if you have

681
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 6: a bad crop, for an example, and you're you're you

682
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 6: just harvest and you said, oh my whole crop went bad.

683
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: You gotta get rid of it. Make some money somehow.

684
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: I gotta get rid of it. So what am I

685
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: supposed to do. I'm supposed to destroy it, and I'm

686
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: supposed to record myself while destroying it. But in the

687
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: recording of body, so I record.

688
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 6: It while I destroy it, and then I have to

689
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 6: tag it and then bag it and then and then

690
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 6: just make it and throw it away properly. Right, So

691
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 6: when I throw away properly, then I have to keep

692
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 6: the destroyed evidence for.

693
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: I think sixty or ninety days. Why am I keeping

694
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: burnt anything? But but here's the thing.

695
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 6: If you if you didn't really destroy it, and within

696
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 6: ninety days the Cannabis Bureau or whoever doesn't decide to

697
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 6: audit you, what.

698
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: Do you think that product line exactly? Yes, here's a video.

699
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: Did it really get destroyed? You know what I mean?

700
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: So you don't need.

701
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 6: Oh, I had to destroy the video because after ninety days,

702
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 6: it automatically erases, you know what I mean. So it's like,

703
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 6: you know, there's nobody really tracking all that stuff, you know.

704
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 6: So people that out there that are saying that and

705
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 6: don't keep me wrong. There's some squared up people that

706
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 6: do it the right way. Personally, I think it's smarter

707
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 6: to just be one hundred percent up on point and

708
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 6: doing it the right way. But don't get it twisted.

709
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 6: A lot of these people that still do have licenses

710
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 6: come from a very underground background, and they're looking for

711
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 6: every single way to cut corners, and they do. You know,

712
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 6: I know that for a fact. I mean I could

713
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 6: probably name off a hundred of them right now, you know,

714
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 6: out of the five hundred stores that are in operation,

715
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 6: and I don't even know the other four hundred operators.

716
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: I'll say that. Well, and it's just crazy to think

717
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: of what happened in Chicago out there. I've got several

718
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: applicants told the Tribune that they think that these these

719
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: delays could cost them thousands, if not tens of thousands

720
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: of dollars, you know, an extra rent they might not

721
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: be able to afford, which could mean they you know,

722
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: lose their property that they've been spending the money on

723
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: the industry. You know, earlier this year they denied seventy

724
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: five new storefront licenses as well. So it's like it's funny, how,

725
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: you know, Illinois, we just find out first of all

726
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: the laws with Craig earlier and now with a medical

727
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: card you can only go to one dispensary.

728
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 6: That is ludicrous. Well, that makes no sense to it's

729
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 6: going to break. That's going to break the dispensary. I mean,

730
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 6: what happens when this one dispensary, because it's in the

731
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 6: heart of the town, gets all the business. It makes

732
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 6: no sense, and then this one over there that's down

733
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 6: the street from it. They're like, maybe they have the

734
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 6: best quality, the best product, the best everything, and you

735
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 6: know what, they just don't have the greatest marketing.

736
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: They're screwed. But here make things easy for you. If

737
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: I'm going uptown, I want to go to that dispensary.

738
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 2: If I'm going downtown, I want to go to that dispensary, right,

739
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. If I'm going to the river,

740
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 2: then shit, I want to go to the one by

741
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: the river. No, there should be no reason for any

742
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: state to say you have to pick your one dispensary

743
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: that we're going to legally let you go to.

744
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 7: No.

745
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: I get it, I totally get it. Yeah, I mean,

746
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: I just I didn't know the rules shell change. They

747
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: will change, and God willing these rules change soon. What

748
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: would be the first rule that you could say, are

749
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: something that you think of that would be like, you know,

750
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 2: if they just did this first.

751
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 6: Well, I think what's going to happen is is there's

752
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 6: going to be recreational or adult use coming. And so

753
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 6: it's very similar to California, and most people kind of

754
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 6: mock our state for what happens and or in this

755
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 6: case for Colorado. But you know, Colorado had a bunch

756
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 6: of different laws that we didn't have, and then vice versa,

757
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 6: and then you know, people from California would.

758
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: Say, oh, we grow better pod, they grow better pot.

759
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 6: You know, it's really kind of one of those things

760
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 6: that you're just gonna have to almost learn from example.

761
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 6: You know, there's no you know, there's no right or

762
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 6: wrong answer. And this is why, and I'll explain it

763
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 6: and I say it all the time. Is we are

764
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 6: all flying a plane and building it in the middle

765
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 6: of air. So we've got it off the ground, it's

766
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 6: in the air, and we're like, dude, we need to

767
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 6: put on another little wing. And people don't understand that

768
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 6: when they're building. That's why people that cry that, people

769
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 6: that said and then you have the right brothers that

770
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 6: end up making the plane that flies. A lot of

771
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 6: people died trying to make a plane that fly, you

772
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 6: know what I mean. But the right brothers actually flew

773
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 6: the plane and landed it.

774
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: It makes it hard. It's a great analogy because there's

775
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: so many companies out there. But when you think of

776
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: the first steps, you know, and I think of you know,

777
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: people saying, I was having a conversation last night, do

778
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: you think it's gonna go federally legal? Joe? And I go,

779
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: you know, I really do, And I use some of

780
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: the concepts that you were talking about in twenty twenty

781
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: five when that's going to open up. But I really

782
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: think that they need to have so many things in

783
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: order before it happens. What I mean by that is

784
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 2: you need to have the banking down. You can't make

785
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: it federally legal before you allow these cats to have

786
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: bank accounts legally with Joe Grande's dispensary. So therefore, we

787
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 2: could track everything much easier, much better. I could run

788
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: my company better because they can't. Like So there's other steps.

789
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: For one that one, you know, the Banking Act needs

790
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: to be approved. It's like, what are they thinking, could

791
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: you imagine? Could you imagine, Okay, an ATM machine that

792
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: took money, not that puts it out right like a

793
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: real one that just takes money right, and that gives

794
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: you a card at the end. You know how much

795
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: cash would come back to our country. Like if you

796
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: just put like think about that, that's a dope word, dude.

797
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 6: I never goes just set up, set up an ATM machine,

798
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 6: right that, except you get a credit card and then

799
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 6: it doesn't It doesn't ask you who you are, doesn't

800
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 6: ask you what you do.

801
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: It takes all the money.

802
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 6: And then spits you out a credit card right there.

803
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 6: You know how much you would make you know what

804
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 6: I mean on that right there? And and then our

805
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 6: country would really know where the money's at, how much

806
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 6: is really going And if they had no questions asked.

807
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: Just like and this is kind of how they do

808
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: guns guns, yes, right, but if they did that with

809
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: our cash, you know, you know I would like to

810
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: that that would be well that's the quote unquote drug money.

811
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: It's like, dog, where are you getting all this coke

812
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: money from?

813
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 5: Right?

814
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 6: But if you're not monitoring who it is, because we

815
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 6: really don't care. We just want to get the cash

816
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 6: on shit, the money and only that.

817
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: It's just going to help so many of these companies

818
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: that are legally doing business who can't justify what they're

819
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: doing and then they can't buy the next proper, They

820
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: can't buy the next house, they can't even buy a

821
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: car because they can't prove the type of real money

822
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: that they're bringing in. And they're really bringing in some loot.

823
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 3: And it's like, dude, you can't even prove it because

824
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: that defel bag of cash doesn't mean shit when you're

825
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: trying to buy something.

826
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, it's a it's a problem, and it creates

827
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 6: a lot of it creates a lot of uncertainty, and

828
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 6: it's why a lot of people get killed and there's

829
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 6: a lot of robberies and all this other stuff. Imagine

830
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 6: if it was just little cards again, Like that's why

831
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 6: they took the cash off the streets in the beginning.

832
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 6: And so now if you actually really did something like that,

833
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 6: it would eliminate so many people.

834
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: It's gotta Yeah, it sounds like a great idea, but

835
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: that's a good one, but it's that could never happen.

836
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: You got to track they got to track the cash.

837
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: You know that. Now it's nine to eleven though, like

838
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 2: you could you can't even I can't even go into

839
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: your bank dog and put you know, five grand in

840
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: your account. I no, you can't what do you mean,

841
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: I can't go to your bank account and put money

842
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: in your bank like, we can't do these types of

843
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 2: things with cash anymore. In a business account, you can't.

844
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: But not in a personal right correct, well, maybe a

845
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: business one. I don't know business one. I just know

846
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: personal like even you know, I just can't put money

847
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: in your accounts anymore. So let alone. If I wanted

848
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: to give that your concept and theory sounds wonderful, it

849
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,479
Speaker 2: would be amazing, It would be amazing. But like I said,

850
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: I just can't see that happen. You know how many

851
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: dispensary owners would sit there at that ATM for a week. Yeah,

852
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: give me my car, just dropping one hundred racks at

853
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: a time, and then they get a card right out whoop?

854
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, come on, man, that

855
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: would that would eliminate the problem of and then they

856
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: could go buy whatever they want with their cards. But

857
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,200
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Speaker 1: get your podcasts.