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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, ten more players are

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Speaker 1: unveiled as Mike Jarecki counts down as top fifty draft prospects.

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Speaker 1: We discussed numbers forty to thirty one. Also, there was

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Speaker 1: a trade recently between the Eagles and Saints involving a

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Speaker 1: swap of first round picks. Now they were mid round picks,

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Speaker 1: so does that hurt or help the Cardinals who select

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Speaker 1: twenty third overall first though? The fourth week of free

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Speaker 1: agency gives us a fourth new face to the roster.

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Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode five fifty one, and it

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Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolew

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Speaker 1: and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyunday,

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Speaker 1: Podcasts visit asy Cardinals dot Com, Slash podcasts Going for

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Speaker 1: Hopkins one end to catch in a touchdown DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Well, this team continues

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Speaker 1: to take baby steps in free agency. MJ and I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure. Yes, it's April. We still have five plus

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Speaker 1: months to go, but I am. I don't know on

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Speaker 1: no outside wide receiver. Maybe about a six, call me

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Speaker 1: a six on the scale of one to ten, as

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Speaker 1: far as how concerned I am that this team has

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Speaker 1: yet to make a move to address those two, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, two glaring holes on the offense and defense respectively.

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Speaker 1: All Right, as we sit here today April sixth, looking

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Speaker 1: we know football is played above the shoulders. The draft

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Speaker 1: is deep at both of those positions. Now Cardinals still

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Speaker 1: have about three and a half weeks. Yep, I think

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, though, you know how I feel. We

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Speaker 1: whether you make the roster or not. So there's still

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Speaker 1: there are two positions that this team is set at.

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Speaker 1: We have a move, we have a free agency move

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Speaker 1: Ten personnel thirteen percent of the time, eleven personnel meeting

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Speaker 1: four wide receivers last season. Well, and if you go

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Speaker 1: was a I don't know, minor shake up, major shakeup

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Speaker 1: mid first round the Eagles and Saints swapping first round

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Speaker 1: draft picks, Saints now hold pick sixteen and nineteen. The

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Speaker 1: Eagles are at eighteen, all three of those picks, ahead

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Speaker 1: of the Cardinals at number twenty three. What does it mean?

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Speaker 1: The Eagles, who had three picks fifteen, sixteen, and nineteen,

433
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Speaker 1: moved from sixteen to eighteen and dealt nineteen plus a

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Speaker 1: sixth rounder for a third and a seventh this year.

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Speaker 1: Plus they got a future first round and twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four second round picks. So the Eagles said, we don't

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Speaker 1: want three first round draft picks, but we'll take two

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Speaker 1: and twenty twenty four. The speculation in Philadelphia is Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurtz has one season to get things right. Otherwise the

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Speaker 1: Eagles next year we'll be looking at a quarterback. The

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Speaker 1: big question mark is why do the Saints want to

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Speaker 1: picks at sixteen and nineteen. Could they be in the

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Speaker 1: market for a quarterback or another player to perhaps package

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Speaker 1: those picks to move up into the top fifteen top ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we watched the Bears last year. When when you're when

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Speaker 1: you're picking and I know the numbers are not twenty,

447
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Speaker 1: when you're picking twenty and you move up into top ten,

448
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Speaker 1: it's expensive. Obviously. Maybe there's a lot of hype now

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Speaker 1: about Malik Willis, but you got Jamis Winston. He's really

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Speaker 1: on a one year deal. Dennis Hollends is the head coach.

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Speaker 1: He's been there for a long time. I don't I mean,

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Speaker 1: I gotta look at their off I mean, there's really

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Speaker 1: good offensive linement out there. I don't know who they

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Speaker 1: would be moving up for or they to stand pat

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Speaker 1: and build both sides of the ball. I mean you

456
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Speaker 1: could take a I mean Michael Thomas, he missed all

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Speaker 1: last year. Do you want to get some more weapons

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Speaker 1: for Jamis Winston because you would find a nice receiver there.

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Speaker 1: It'd be interesting. I don't know if they're partlaying in

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Speaker 1: that because to me that they have to build a

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Speaker 1: roster and they've lost a lot of good players and

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Speaker 1: their defense has always been in the top five in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans. Saints are taking a lot of heat for

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Speaker 1: the amount of capital that they gave up to have

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Speaker 1: a second mid round pick in the first round on

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Speaker 1: Day one, so they obviously have to have a plan.

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Speaker 1: And the Eagles, you know, three first round picks. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's not necessary this year, but they'll take that second

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Speaker 1: first round pick in twenty twenty three. There are eight

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Speaker 1: teams now with two first round picks this year. Eagles, Giants, Lions, Packers,

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Speaker 1: Saints all in the NFC, plus the Chiefs, Jets, and Texans.

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Speaker 1: I don't have all their numbers. But when the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: pick at number twenty three and there are teams ahead

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Speaker 1: of them, i e. The Packers pick at number twenty two,

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Speaker 1: they just dealt Davante Adams. You would think Green Bay's

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Speaker 1: looking at a wide receiver. Now, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals, if they have their eye in a wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: that to move ahead of Green Bay. There's an edge

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Speaker 1: restaur out there. One looks for an edge rusher. The

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Speaker 1: Cardinals have to move up a couple of spots or

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Speaker 1: they're a handful of edge rushers. They like that. They're

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Speaker 1: comfortable staying pat That's all this gamesmanship and picking up

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Speaker 1: the phone and calling and trying to figure out what

484
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Speaker 1: other teams are interested in. Why teams hold mock drafts

485
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Speaker 1: within their own war room to try to figure out,

486
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Speaker 1: you know, who is ahead of us, maybe from twenty

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Speaker 1: to twenty two. That all right, we're comfortable with those

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Speaker 1: three teams ahead of us because we know they're looking

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Speaker 1: for X, Y and Z. That's not what we're looking for. Now.

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Speaker 1: If there's a move ahead of those, then all of

491
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Speaker 1: a sudden, you're like, wait a second, then you have

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Speaker 1: to start working the phones. Yeah, and when you're picking eighth,

493
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Speaker 1: you kind of have an idea. When you're picking sixteen

494
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Speaker 1: to kind of have an idea in here. And it's

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Speaker 1: a good it's a good situation to be in because

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Speaker 1: you made the playoffs. I mean, you know, you look

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Speaker 1: at the twelve fourteen teams excuse me, to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I mean this is where you're picking in the draft. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this draft is interesting. Like I said, I we don't know. Um,

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Speaker 1: we think we know. Channel managers get paid a lot

501
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Speaker 1: of money and sometimes it's hit and miss, including one

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Speaker 1: of the best coaches in football and Bill Pelichick. He

503
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Speaker 1: goes to Pro days, he watches a lot of film.

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00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: He loves guys from Alabama, Georgia, Rutgers. You know obviously

505
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Speaker 1: relationships he has, but nobody really knows. I mean, you

506
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Speaker 1: put the work in and you hope, and you do

507
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Speaker 1: your research and you come up with a solution. But

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Speaker 1: this draft, you know, you and I were talking before

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Speaker 1: the show, and we'll get into my forty to thirty

510
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Speaker 1: one here coming up. But Aiden Hutchinson, I mean, I

511
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Speaker 1: don't know if he's I don't know if he's the

512
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Speaker 1: best player in the draft. But you look at Jacksonville

513
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: did in free agency. They went out for offensive lineman.

514
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: You gotta get you gotta get a pass rush over

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Speaker 1: there on defense. So who knows who's going to be

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Speaker 1: number one, But it's you know, I'll just say this,

517
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Speaker 1: this is very difficult this year because you know there's

518
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Speaker 1: gonna be Pro Bowlers coming out of this draft. Though

519
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Speaker 1: there could be a Hall of Famer too, we don't know,

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Speaker 1: but Craig, I mean, it's just you don't have that

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Speaker 1: top name, can't miss prospect. You know, when you had

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Speaker 1: Mario Williams and Ruggie Bush and obviously you know the quarterbacks,

523
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Speaker 1: which with Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen and Josh Rosen

524
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Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson. I mean you could see there was

525
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Speaker 1: some meat and potatoes on that bone, on that steak bone.

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Speaker 1: And here like it wouldn't surprise me if who's the

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Speaker 1: first pick on the draft. I don't think it's a

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Speaker 1: clear cut right now. So my point is. It's like

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Speaker 1: when you get down to like twenty two to forty five,

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Speaker 1: Like depending on what flavor you like or what's your

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Speaker 1: favorite color, it's almost the same in this draft. Like

532
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of great receivers, corners, offensive tackles, pass rushers.

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Speaker 1: So it's really like, what is your appetite for in

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Speaker 1: this draft? I think you can, you can, you can

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Speaker 1: you can obviously see you know, get your appetite in

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Speaker 1: this draft. And I don't know if there's can't miss

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Speaker 1: prospect here this traff I think it's wide open. Does

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Speaker 1: that make sense? Yeah? Mid season, mid college season, the

539
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Speaker 1: big name was Cavon Thibodeaux, can't miss out of Oregon. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And then as time progressed, people started doing a deep die.

541
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Speaker 1: They're nitpicking, they're finding holes in his game. He takes

542
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Speaker 1: plays off, he doesn't doesn't go one hundred percent, and

543
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, he's dropping to the point

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Speaker 1: where I was listening to Peter King's latest podcast, he

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Speaker 1: has Cavon Thibodeaux outside the top ten. Now, that would

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Speaker 1: be a stunner to me because edge rusher hard to

547
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Speaker 1: find and he's got all the measurables. You just wonder

548
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: is the passion there to be able to go high exactly?

549
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: Does he have a little Marcus Golden in him? And

550
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Speaker 1: that's kind of the example bird game that we use

551
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: for Cardinal fans because we know, no matter what Monday night,

552
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Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon, Sunday afternoon, Marcus Golden is going to go

553
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent regardless if its team is ten and

554
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Speaker 1: O or O and ten. I don't him dropping the ten.

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Speaker 1: I I don't even But that's to your point. As

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Speaker 1: far as is Aiden Hutchinson a can't miss certainly had

557
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Speaker 1: an outstanding season. But again, on the other side, David

558
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: Jabo had a great season. So how much attention did

559
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Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson really get? How many double teams was he

560
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: really beating? You can make yourself sick when you're trying

561
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Speaker 1: to break down who goes who or who should be

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Speaker 1: ranked ahead of someone else. And I believe it was

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah who said, basically to your point, from twenty

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Speaker 1: five to forty five to forty eight, teams could have

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Speaker 1: their twenty five who they believe is a twenty fifth

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Speaker 1: best prospect the team next door they could have them

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Speaker 1: ranked number forty. There could be that much of a

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Speaker 1: difference depending on what they like and what fits within

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Speaker 1: their offense or defense. Well, you'll hear, you know nationally,

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Speaker 1: you know on local radio. Well, the Cardinals may have

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Speaker 1: to move up to get one of the edge rushers.

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Speaker 1: And heir Daniel Jeremiah, who studies film, talks to scouts

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Speaker 1: and he said, this is a deep draft. You can

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Speaker 1: go almost twenty twenty. Now again, obviously draft him a

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Speaker 1: guy in the first and second round, third round, fourth

576
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Speaker 1: round is a little bit different. But I mean, besides

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Speaker 1: maybe the first round, but the second and third and

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Speaker 1: fourth there may not be a huge difference. Is this more?

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Speaker 1: Is he a three technique guy as a five technique

580
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: guys that do? I have a guy that's in the

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Speaker 1: final year of my contract and I'm gonna draft him

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Speaker 1: so I have something in the future. This is a

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Speaker 1: draft war. I think you're really going to create a

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00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: lot of depth in the future on the roster. Now

585
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: you're expecting these guys to come in and play first,

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Speaker 1: second and third round picks at least to be active

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Speaker 1: on game day if you want to be involved on

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Speaker 1: Day one the twenty two NFL Draft. This is cool

589
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: because once again the Cardinals and Arizona four Dealers are

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00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: hosting a draft party at State Farm Stadium, first time

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Speaker 1: since twenty nineteen. Parking and admission are both free. It

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Speaker 1: begins the Great Lawn outside State Farm Stadium at four pm.

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Speaker 1: There will be a special post draft fireworks show concluding

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Speaker 1: the party following the completion of the first round and

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00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: go to Azy Cardinals dot com for more information. But

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Speaker 1: the kids Interactive Zone, Auto Grass Cardinals Players, cheerleaders, Junior

597
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: Cheermini clinic as well, so a lot of fun not

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Speaker 1: only for those that readily watch the draft, but the

599
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: entire family as well. Again from four to nine or

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Speaker 1: the completion of the first round Draft Party presented by

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Speaker 1: Arizona four Dealers on the Great Lawn outside State Farm Stadium. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: This the last time the Cardinals were able to do

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Speaker 1: that was the year Kyler Murray was drafted. Of course,

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Speaker 1: it was first overall and then everyone was having a

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Speaker 1: great time and then they bailed. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: wait now Cardinals are picking twenty third. But get there early,

607
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: gets seated. You know, watch the draft. Maybe you get

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Speaker 1: a chance to have a sheet of paper and you

609
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Speaker 1: can figure out who's left on the board. Obviously we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of festivities for you, and so

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00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: I recommend you get there early. Again, the Cardinals were

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Speaker 1: picking twenty thirday, could move up, they could move down,

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Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a huge party, and the fact

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Speaker 1: that we're getting back to some normalcy, it's going to

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Speaker 1: see the Bird gang out there celebrating Draft Day. As

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Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com for more information on the Cardinals Draft

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Speaker 1: Party presented by Arizona four Dealers on Thursday, April twenty eighth,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday, proud partner of the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. All right, let's get into Mike Jarecki's top

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Speaker 1: fifty prospects. We began this on our most recent episode

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Speaker 1: and go into the archives if you want to find

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Speaker 1: out numbers fifty to forty one, but on this episode

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Speaker 1: numbers forty to thirty one, So so names that you

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Speaker 1: might be familiar with, and of course, obviously getting closer

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Speaker 1: and closer to the Cardinals selects at number twenty three.

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Speaker 1: But as we look at number forty, Mike Jarecki's top

627
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Speaker 1: fifty draft prospects. Checking in at number forty, Tulsa offensive

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Speaker 1: tackle Tyler Smith. He's a junior six five three twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Now you start looking at him. Craig is interesting. When

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Speaker 1: I go back and look at some of these offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman and defensive lineman, they don't do the bench press,

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Speaker 1: which is interesting. So he actually ran a five h

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Speaker 1: two and his forty. But you look at a guy

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00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 1: his career games, he's played twenty three starts, second team

635
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Speaker 1: All American Athletic Conference. Um, he's a guy that really

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Speaker 1: has he has long arms. But when you look at it,

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Speaker 1: he started two games at left tackles during his red

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Speaker 1: shirt year. Again, I think he's a guy that can

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Speaker 1: go in the second or third round. You know, he's

640
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: a guy that when you look at his overall physique,

641
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: they listened at six six three thirty two. But I

642
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: don't know if he's a right more of a right

643
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: tackle than a left tackle. And there's some book believe

644
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: he might be moved inside to guard. Although it's six

645
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: to five, that's a it's a pretty tall guard. But

646
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: the good news is is according to Pro Football Focus,

647
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: he improved his run blocking grades each of the past

648
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: two seasons, so there's some steady growth there. And as

649
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: teams always like get as much information as possible. Teammates

650
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: was Zavian Collins at Tulsa. So perhaps someone's pick up

651
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: the phone and Collins, zavan Hey, tell me about this

652
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: tackle Tyler Smith, and he has thirty four and a

653
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: half a quarter arms. I mean, when you talk about

654
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: tackles and guards, usually in centers are short arms. But

655
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: that's good because you're not going to allow other guys

656
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: to get their hands on you. So Tulsa. He grew

657
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: up in Fort Worth, Texas, so obviously they must be

658
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: recruiting that area. So Tulsa offensive tackle Tyler Smith checking

659
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: in at number forty. At number thirty nine, let's go

660
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: to the defensive side of the wall. Connecticut defensive tackle

661
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 1: Travis Jones six four three twenty five a senior who

662
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: did very well at the combine and played well at

663
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: the senior ball. Yeah, he ran a four to nine two,

664
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: his vertical was twenty eight and a half. His twenty

665
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: yards shuttle which I only pay attention to his four

666
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: five eight you look at him. He's also on Bruce

667
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: Feldman's two twenty one freaklist reported bench four fifty five

668
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: max thirty two bench reps six to fifteen squad twenty

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00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: eight five VERTU. You look at him career high seven

670
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: tackle for losses, four sacks and eleven starts. He did

671
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: not played it in two nineteen because of COVID concerns,

672
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: so he's been there for at least four years. He

673
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: accepted an invitation to the Senior Bowl. He led his

674
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: team with four and a half sacks twenty five quarterback pressures.

675
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: According to Pro Football Focus, he started eleven games, did

676
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: not play again, but he played twelve games in two

677
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: nineteen and two eighteen, so he has starts. And he's

678
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: played in thirty five games, thirty two starts, one hundred

679
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: and thirty three tackles, nineteen tackle for losses. So he's

680
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: a guy that can push the pile. Here's what Daniel

681
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: Jeremiah wrote on NFL dot Com with respects to Travis

682
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: Jones at the Senior Bowl. Quote Jones was probably the

683
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: most physically dominant player in mobile. He consistently showed pure power.

684
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: He was walking offensive lineman back to the quarterback the

685
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: entire week. Daniel Jeremiah again, we quote him a lot.

686
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: MJ reference him a lot. I put him in the

687
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: category of milk kyper junior of Todd McShay. Guys that

688
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: do this for a living pay attention. In the case

689
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: of Daniel Jeremiah has a background and scouting at the

690
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: NFL level, so you put a lot of stock in

691
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: what he has to say, what he has to write.

692
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,959
Speaker 1: So Travis Jones and intriguing prospects certainly fills a need

693
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: on the interior of the defensive line, no doubt about it.

694
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: I love the size and that's good to know from

695
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: Daniel because he obviously was there and they do wall

696
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: to wall coverage and path through the draft. So that's

697
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: him and Bucky Brooks and Charles Davis. I really enjoy

698
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: their podcast and also their coverage when it comes to

699
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: the NFL Network. Continuing to count it down and at

700
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: number thirty eight, Alabama linebacker Christian Harris six feet two

701
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six off ball linebacker. He's a junior.

702
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: Played well at the All American Bowl. Yeah, he ran

703
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: a four four forty. His verke was vertical, was thirty

704
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: four point five twenty twenty one, twelve tackle for losses,

705
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: five sacks, and fifteen starts. Obviously, sometimes you get, you know,

706
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: overlooked when you play on that Alabama defense. But clearly

707
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: a guy that started all fifteen games, twelve tackle for losses,

708
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: second on the team behind Will Anderson Junior. He started

709
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: all thirteen games at will linebacker on the National championship team.

710
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: He suffered an injury. He's been a he was a

711
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: as a freshman made he made the All Freshman team,

712
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: played in thirteen games, so he has ready for this.

713
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: He has forty starts in his career at Alabama. Of course,

714
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: when you play thirteen, thirteen and fifteen games, you're playing

715
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: in bowl games. Wow, tackle for losses twenty seven. Again,

716
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: he's more of off the ball line backer, so you're

717
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: not going to see him get to the quarterback. But

718
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty one tackles and he solo tackles

719
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty six, and you look at pass breakups.

720
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: He had six there quarterback hits. So he looks like

721
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: a guy that was really active from sideline to sideline. Well,

722
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: seventy nine tackles this past season, forty five of those

723
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: solo tackles, So someone that can wrap up and this

724
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: past season semifinalist for the Buckis and Lombardi Awards. So yeah,

725
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: maybe he gets lost in this Sheffle because where he plays,

726
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: but certainly plays against quality competition and plays deep into

727
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: not only December but January as well. So Alabama linebacker

728
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: Christian Harris checking in at number thirty eight. Another freak

729
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: list from Bruce Feldman. I don't know how many he

730
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: has reportedly four h five on a power cleat, so

731
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: that's basically it just shows you how much weight this guy.

732
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: He's six two two thirty two and he's putting up

733
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: that kind of weight in a power clean. That's pretty

734
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: impressive all right now. And at number thirty seven, the

735
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: first quarterback on Mike Jarecki's Top fifty draft prospects. Mississippi

736
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: QB Matt Carroll junior six two hundred and twelve pounds

737
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 1: finished seventh in the Heisman Trophy voting second team All SEC,

738
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: which says something coming out of that conference, former four

739
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: star recruit out of high school. But he is your

740
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: first quarterback on your big board. Yeah, I only have

741
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: a few. I give this young man a lot of credit.

742
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: Played in the bowl game, obviously, you know you don't

743
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: never want to see anybody get hurt. Twenty twenty one,

744
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: second team All SEC. I don't think he gets enough

745
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: credit for that. One of five quarterbacks with twenty twenty

746
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: one of five quarterbacks with twenty passes and only ten

747
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns led FSB with three hundred and eighty four

748
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: yards passing per game, so you know you can throw

749
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: the football. I think he needs to go to a

750
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: team that has a starter, probably like the Lions. Let

751
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: him sit for a year, But I think Matt Correll

752
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: will be a starter in the league in the next

753
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: two within two years, not now, but within two years.

754
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: Maybe you take him at the first pick in the

755
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: second round, unless you know, obviously pick it and Willis

756
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: will be off the board. We'll see about Ritter when

757
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: it comes to a quarterback position, but I think he's

758
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: more of a you know, if you're Detroit or somebody's

759
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: picking high in the second round, I think that's a

760
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: really good spot for him. Sixty eight percent completion percentage

761
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: this past season so accurate, and we have seen guys

762
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen imp you improve their accuracy at the

763
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 1: next level, but going in at sixty eight percent, that's

764
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: pretty it's pretty good for Matt Carroll. Well, you're right,

765
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: he said, a school record plea percentage started all thirteen

766
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: he did suffer that ankle injury and the Sugar Bowl

767
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: X rays were negative, and that's really good news because

768
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: a lot of guys would tap out knowing that he

769
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: could be a first round pick. All right, back to

770
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: the defense at number thirty six, Penn State outside linebacker

771
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: Arnold ebacaty six two fifty a senior, and this one

772
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: is someone that a lot of people are high on

773
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: when you talk about edge rushers, maybe not the high tier,

774
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: but that second tier that could make some noise for

775
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: a team looking for someone to get after an opposing quarterback. Yeah,

776
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: he's not the tallest guy. He's six two and three

777
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: three eights. As you mentioned, he did bench twenty one.

778
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: His vert was thirty eight. His arms are thirty one

779
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: and a half, so that's good. He accepted an invitation

780
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl first team All Big Ten Conference,

781
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: led the team with nine and a half sex eighteen

782
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: tackle for losses his quarterback. His rating from Pro Football

783
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: Focus eighty eight point four, second among behind only Aiden Hutchinson.

784
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: So this guy fifty two quarterback pressures just last year.

785
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: So he's a guy that can get to the quarterback.

786
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: We know Penn State was one you know under James Franklin,

787
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: they've been one of the better teams. Obviously, look at

788
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin. But he probably doesn't get enough credit.

789
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: But he's not the tallest guy, but maybe more like

790
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: an Elvers, Dumersville Dwight Freeney where they're only six two

791
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: six one, but they had the ability. And he look

792
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: at his size two fifty, so I'm sure he's got

793
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: a lower horse so that's thick where he can get

794
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: went off one on one matchups. But I do think

795
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: this is a guy that you know everyone's talking about

796
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: the top six, seven or eight, but I wouldn't fall

797
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: a seat by him. Ebba Kat has not been playing

798
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: football long Born in Cameroon, moved to the US when

799
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: he was twelve, first started playing football his sophomore year

800
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: in high school. So still a little bit raw. And again,

801
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: maybe he's not the week one answer, but maybe a

802
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: long term answer. And remember when you're drafting in the

803
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: first or second day, you're looking for media help plus

804
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: also for someone that you hope you can build around

805
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: for the next five, six, seven years. Yeah, he speaks

806
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: English and French. As you mentioned, his family moved to

807
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: Maryland and he's twelve. He played soccer and basketball when

808
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: he first arrived. He is actually from the same city

809
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: as Joel mbad Okay, Well, we know how Joel mb

810
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: plays on the basketball court, maybe Eba kat plays just

811
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: as well on the football field. He checks in at

812
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: number thirty six, Moving on down Mike Drecky Top fifty

813
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: Draft prospects, and at number thirty five Washington cornerback Kyler Gordon,

814
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: a junior five eleven one ninety four. Don't let that

815
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: five eleven and for you. According to those that watch film,

816
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 1: he plays much bigger than that five eleven frame. Yeah again,

817
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman said he's on his freak list. He reported

818
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: a forty two point five vert three point eight seven

819
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: on a shuttle. That's kind of freakish. Now we know

820
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: when it comes to Washington, even though Jimmy Lake is

821
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: no longer there, team's value their defensive backs. That the

822
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: old saying was if you didn't he didn't think you

823
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: were going to play in the NFL, he would not

824
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: recruit you. Cardinals obviously have gotten Buddha Baker Byron Murphy there.

825
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: So when it comes to Washington and I know that

826
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: he's no longer there, but obviously they were going to

827
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: recruiting these guys for years. He has a little thin

828
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: six feet two hundred pounds First Team All Pack twelve Conference,

829
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: second Team Honorable Mention All PACTI Conference two time in

830
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and twenty and twenty and so only had

831
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: led the team with seven pass breakups, started all twelve games.

832
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: He read shirted his initially. Now he did winning a

833
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: spotlight dance competition at the age of eight because his

834
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: mother was a gymnastics teacher, and so that was his

835
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: claim to fame. Joined the Seattle Storms Hip Hop dance

836
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: troupe at the age of nine and background and kung fu.

837
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: I'll bring this up. First team All Pack twelve and

838
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: that means something because don't forget he got tested because

839
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: his teammate Trent McDuffie, who might hear his name called

840
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: ahead of Kyler Gordon. But you talk about cornerback good prospects.

841
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: Those two on the same defense in the same secondary,

842
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: so it's not like you could target one over the other.

843
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: Both were getting a lot of attention. Yeah, and again

844
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: not bad. I mean you look at six feet two

845
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: hundred pounds, I mean there's five eleven corners. You'd like

846
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: to have these guys with you know, a little bit taller,

847
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: and but you also need somebody that's going to be

848
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: physical in the run game. You just can't be there,

849
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, six foot, you know, string being out there.

850
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: His arms are thirty one and a half. But I

851
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: like the four or five two that he ran. Uh no,

852
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: not everyone's four or four, but but you could see

853
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: just based on his experience playing there, you know, he's

854
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: a guy that does he does really good at the

855
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. So in other words, he's he's he's

856
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: been taught about technique when it comes to press coverage,

857
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: trying to all out that receiver to get any kind

858
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: of released when the ball snapped. Washington cornerback Kyler Gordon

859
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: at number thirty five, number thirty four. Another outside linebacker,

860
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: USC's Drake Johnson sixty three two fifty four. He is

861
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: a junior, a little bit bigger than Ebba Katsy and

862
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more skillful as far as the

863
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: measurables are concerned and how well he did at the

864
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 1: scouting combine. But Drake Johnson comes in on Mike Direki's

865
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: big board at number thirty four. Yeah, I think he's

866
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: getting lost. Also, like you know other guys, when you

867
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: started looking at you know, the top six or eight

868
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: pass rushers six four, two fifty, his vert was thirty

869
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: six five. His his arms are thirty four, which is good.

870
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: He was second team All Packed Conference, played in eleven games,

871
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: nine starts at linebackers. So he's a guy that can

872
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: do a little bit of both. He may not play

873
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: his hand in his dirt, and you look at it.

874
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: You know, he played in twenty eight games, started twenty six.

875
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: Last year was probably his more more reproductive year. He

876
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: did have eight tackle for losses twenty five in his career,

877
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: twelve and a half sacks. So when you look at

878
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: him as a whole, maybe he's a more of a

879
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: guy that can put his hand in dirt and also

880
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: play a little bit of an outside linebacker than just

881
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: playing defensive end. Told reporters at the Combine quote, I

882
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: just like to kill the quarterback, And hey, that's what

883
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: your job is, to get into the quarterback face and

884
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: hopefully knock him down. But Drake Johnson another one of

885
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: those edge rushers. Again, we're talking about a deep edge

886
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: rush class. According to many, Daniel Jeremiah among them, and

887
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: Drey Johnson and at number thirty four. Keep in mind

888
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: Cardinals pick at twenty three and fifty five first round,

889
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: second round respectively. This is interesting. His father asked the

890
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 1: hospital to put Drake Johnson from the University of Southern

891
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: California starting linebacker, coming at two hundred sixty pounds on

892
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: his birth certificate, so spoken it will erode it into existence. Okay,

893
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: destined to happen for Drake Johnson. We'll see what the

894
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: destiny is for him in the National Football League. Checking

895
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,479
Speaker 1: in at number thirty three. Another offensive lineman, Kenyan Green

896
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: out of Texas A and M sixty four three twenty

897
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: three junior three year starter, can play everywhere on the

898
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: offensive line except center. Did not play any center, although

899
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: he did tell reporters that he is willing to learn

900
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: the center position. But he is a tackle and a guard.

901
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: I know the Cardinals have interesting Kenyan Green. Now that's

902
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: all before Will Hernandez. I'm sure a lot of teams

903
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: picking in between eighteen and twenty five. It's a heavy

904
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: offensive tackle draft. It's a heavy pass rusher, corner, wide receiver,

905
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: so he could slide again. I don't know if the Cardinals.

906
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: Obviously we talked about it earlier. Start planning for the future.

907
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: But I think when you draft the guy in the

908
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: first round and Will hern Andy's is your right guard,

909
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: this guy with red shirt, and I don't think the

910
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: Cardinals want to do that based on what happened in

911
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Now he ran, He's a

912
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: tough guy. His arms are thirty four and eighth. Listen

913
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: to this. He's played in thirty five games, started thirty

914
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: five games. He's played over a thousand snaps eleven hundred

915
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 1: and thirty one snaps. He's given up five sacks. Wow.

916
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: First Team Associated Press, First Team All CC first Team

917
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: finalists for the Lomblardi Award. This guy, I mean he

918
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: played right tackle, right guard, left tackle, and left guard.

919
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: And again, you know, this guy is very versatile. But

920
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: it's interesting because if they didn't sign Will Hernandez, I

921
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: would have thought this and it still could be. I mean,

922
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: you're looking at the future. But again, he's not a

923
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: he's not a tackle. And just like they get they

924
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: kind of get knocked for it. In centers and guards.

925
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: They don't go as high unless you're Quentin Nelson. You know,

926
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper was obviously was a guy that everyone believed

927
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: in Leonard Davis, you know what position he was going

928
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: to play. But this guy is gonna be a pro

929
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: for ten years. I mean just you listen to him

930
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: and just what he can do in the versatility and

931
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: he's strong. And again, I like what Jimbo Fisher's done there.

932
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher's done there um at Texas C and M

933
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he didn't recruit him, but you're gonna

934
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: see a lot of good players coming out of there.

935
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: And remember bird Gang Rodney Hudson is the only offensive

936
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: lineman projected starting offensive lineman that has signed past this

937
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: upcoming season. So offensive line certainly a need looking forward

938
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: for this Arizona Cardinals team. Kenyan Green and a number

939
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: thirty three getting close to the towards the end thirty

940
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: two on Mike Drecki's big board. Clemson cornerback Andrew Booth junior,

941
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: junior year, six feet one ninety four and some question

942
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: marks because he underwent surgery to repair a core muscle injury,

943
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: though according to reports, is expected to be ready for

944
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: the start of training camp. But another one of those

945
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: cornerbacks that the Cardinals might have an eye on Yeah,

946
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean he usually that that surgery surgery he's done

947
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia by the renowned specialist, So obviously not a deal.

948
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: But it's not like an Achilles or an acl where

949
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 1: he's got to worry about, so he should be good.

950
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: I like he's very similar to you know, you look

951
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: at Gordon six feet two hundred pounds. He was first

952
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: team All acc he led the team with three interceptions.

953
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: You know, he's a he's a guy that's you know,

954
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,479
Speaker 1: has He's only had started at fifteen games. His first

955
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: year he really played on special teams. But last couple

956
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: of years he's played twenty two games. He started fifteen.

957
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: You look at tackle for losses not so much, but

958
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: you look at solo interceptions five he had three last year,

959
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: the two years before that nine pass breakups. Again, I

960
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: think he's more of a second round pick, depending on

961
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: where all these guys go. But I think a team's

962
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: going to take a flyer on him. But I do

963
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: think he'll go in the second round. So Andrew Booth

964
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: Junior in at number thirty two, and to wrap up

965
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: our countdown from forty to thirty one, a tight end

966
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: first one that we've had an opportunity to discuss, and

967
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: this is Colorado State tight end Trey McBride, senior six

968
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 1: four two forty six. He basically was the best tight

969
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: end all of last year, won the John Mackey Award,

970
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: which gives which is given to the nation's best tight end.

971
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: But he is the first tight end on your top fifty. Yeah,

972
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: and there's another one cadet at Washington, So I didn't

973
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: have him in my top fifty, but I like this.

974
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: I watched him play just based on you know, when

975
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: you start looking at some of those highlights of the

976
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: tight ends at the combine. As you mentioned, he was

977
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: a John Mackey Award and unana's first team Associate oppress

978
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: All American, two time first team, a Mountain West Conference

979
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: Player of the Year twenty nineteen twenty twenty, he led

980
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: all tight ends with one thousand and twenty one yards.

981
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, he was accepted an invitation to

982
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. I mean, this guy's been there for

983
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: four years. He's played in forty games, thirty two starts,

984
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty four receptions, twenty one hundred yards

985
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: average about thirteen yards a reception, only ten touchdowns. Maybe

986
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: he was using a blocking game and it only had

987
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: six drops in his entire career this past season, six

988
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: one hundred yard receiving games. So obviously someone that was

989
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: a focal point within the Colorado State offense. We'll see

990
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: how that translates to the National Football League. But again,

991
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: tied end, it might not be top heavy, but certainly

992
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: deep in this draft. According to those cover this about

993
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: as well as well, it's their job, they cover it,

994
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: and they believe tied end is certainly one of those

995
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: positions that you can find, maybe not on day one,

996
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: but certainly day two and day three. And this guy's

997
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: wingspan is huge. I mean he's sixty three, but when

998
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: you look at him, he plays a lot. He plays

999
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: a lot bigger than what his sizes. You'll see a

1000
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: lot of tight end six six and are skinny. This

1001
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: guy's sixty three and a quarter or a main eighth

1002
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: and he's about two hundred and fifty pounds and his

1003
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: arms are thirty three. His wingspan is seventy eight. Wow,

1004
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: considering he's only sixty three. So Trey McBride closes out

1005
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: our countdown from forty to thirty one. So next up,

1006
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: we'll go from thirty to twenty one as we work

1007
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: our way towards April twenty eighth, first round of the

1008
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two NFL Draft. But so far we are

1009
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: twenty deep into Mike Jarecki's top fifty countdown. Yeah, now

1010
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna start to hear more household names. I mean,

1011
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: I think we've done a good job. Just obviously, I

1012
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: haven't counted off versus defense. I think we had one

1013
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: tight end, we've had a quarterback. Well, we'll have another

1014
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: quarterback or two coming up. But yeah, I'll have to

1015
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: go back and count see how many offensers defense. But

1016
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: as we get closer to the top ten, top twenty,

1017
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: they will become household names. It's a good exercise. I'm

1018
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: glad we are doing it again this year and again

1019
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: bird Gang. If you missed it or missed fifty to

1020
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: forty one, just go back into the archives and you

1021
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: can catch up. And we'll continue to do this as

1022
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: we get closer and closer, as the days get shorter

1023
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: and the weeks get shorter. Draft Day just right around

1024
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: the corner. And on that note, we will put a

1025
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by

1026
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Speaker 1: a Hunday proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As all,

1027
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Speaker 1: we special thanks to our executive producer Jema Mondro for

1028
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: Mike Drecky. I'm Craig Riel Loup. We'll talk to you

1029
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Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two.