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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. He are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Fright, it's so live on a Tuesday EDITIONTIVE Cleveland Brown's Daily.

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Speaker 2: I am merely Bo.

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Speaker 3: He is the great z fresh in the middle of

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Speaker 3: the vacation, sun kissed golf dinner. I'm sure overlooking the coast,

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Speaker 3: fantastic meals. How's it going, how's the how's the the

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Speaker 3: pleasuring that is taking place between you and gimbe.

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Speaker 2: Come again? That's right, excuse me, pleasure out there. You

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Speaker 2: guys were some.

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Speaker 4: Spa We're not or or you know, it's a business trip.

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Speaker 5: Bo.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday was actually, though, a very very cool day.

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Speaker 6: Got to get out on the links afterwards after the show,

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Speaker 6: and it was, let's hear.

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Speaker 2: It, it was sure.

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Speaker 3: You can't talk about all the specifics, he's just behind

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Speaker 3: walls of sure that you can't get through, but just

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Speaker 3: from general a man of your accomplishment with the stick

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Speaker 3: swinging it into place like that.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 6: It was awesome, It really was cool and it's cool

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Speaker 6: to play a course where you know they had recently

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Speaker 6: had the major championship of our nation.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so it was.

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Speaker 6: It was awesome, like it blew my expectations for it

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Speaker 6: out of the water. Had a great time. Thirty nine

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Speaker 6: thirty six from the tips. Good for you, so felt

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Speaker 6: good about it. Took me a little bit to get

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Speaker 6: to get warmed up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah thirty six, sound like you really struggled again.

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Speaker 6: I had it going good. Greens were elite. I mean,

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Speaker 6: if you put it online, it was going down. It

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Speaker 6: was awesome, just an awesome day, beautiful sunsets out here.

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Speaker 6: I know you guys are dealing with snowback there, so

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Speaker 6: I apologies.

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Speaker 2: For that, but I bet you mean that too.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 2: I mean that sincerely.

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Speaker 5: Give me well I did. I got a little bit

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Speaker 5: of an earful because I forgot to just kind of

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Speaker 5: I usually it takes a little bit to get the

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Speaker 5: snowblower warmed up and after the off season. Sure, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I forgot to do that people this morning for the oh,

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Speaker 5: the shot queen was not pleased. H The call is

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Speaker 5: out to the nephews. All hands on deck, get over there,

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Speaker 5: beers on me right maybe a few twenties. Get the

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Speaker 5: thing going and get it taken care of, because I

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Speaker 5: don't need that headache. It's amazing, not a headache, but

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Speaker 5: I feel better for it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you drop the ball there, give it. You're you're

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Speaker 3: too worried about all your pleasuring that's going on out there.

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Speaker 3: It's funny the way that that people live, right, So

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Speaker 3: like you guys, it's what is it, seventy two and

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Speaker 3: Sonny something.

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Speaker 2: Like that, Yes, probably seventy Yeah, yeah, seventy and Sonny.

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Speaker 2: Not a cloud in the sky.

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Speaker 6: There's a reason people want to live in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 6: It's in high rent. Yes, it's very very simple.

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Speaker 3: You're in a very very much much wanted zip code

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Speaker 3: one that in fact, they were television over so many

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Speaker 3: people television program over because they so so wanted to

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Speaker 3: live there. And I had the boys last night as

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Speaker 3: they went to bed, they were literally praying for a

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Speaker 3: snow day. I said, boys, I don't know if this

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Speaker 3: is something we should pray for, and also don't think

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Speaker 3: that we should use these prayers at the end of November.

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Speaker 4: Agreed.

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Speaker 6: And I think that overall, though, when you when you

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Speaker 6: from such an an an extravaganza, is it's kind of

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's it feels like a holiday when you

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Last night I was talking to my kids and uh,

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Speaker 6: it's intensive, so even if there was a snow day,

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Speaker 6: they would have to do it all over zoom because one.

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Speaker 4: Day it was like four days. Uh.

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Speaker 6: And then whereas my youngest el Boods, was like, give

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Speaker 6: me a snow day again, I'm completely off. And I

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Speaker 6: Bryce Drago was on the the old xbox and been

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Speaker 4: So I haven't the time.

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Speaker 2: So they had one.

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Speaker 4: They had one. Oh yeah, full on.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, wow, we did not they just wow. No,

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Speaker 6: Now see the further east you go and north, I

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Speaker 5: That's I guess. Back at home, my wife said she

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Speaker 5: took the dogs out at six thirty this morning. There

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Speaker 5: was nothing. Yeah, it was just flurrying, and by eight

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Speaker 4: Not over on the other side of town Gibbey.

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Speaker 2: We got I got what you got, Gibbey. I had

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Speaker 3: I walked uh, I walked uh, buddy this morning and

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Speaker 3: it was a piercing west wind, just cutting my face

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Speaker 3: in half as as we made the turn down the

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Speaker 5: It came at the worst time. It came during rush hour.

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Speaker 5: You can't get the plows out, so things I heard.

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Speaker 5: It was a nightmare getting to work and that sucks.

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Speaker 4: You get that salt out there, baby, the.

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Speaker 5: First snowfall of the year. It's already kind of chaos

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Speaker 5: because everybody forgets how to drive in it, yes, throwing

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Speaker 5: the fact that the plows can't get out to assist.

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Speaker 4: And it's a tough scene. It's tough scene.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 2: We go ahead.

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Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, I wanted to be speaking

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Speaker 4: of tough scenes.

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Speaker 6: Wanted to paint one final picture for you about our

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Speaker 4: So after after being out.

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Speaker 6: There, and you should talk all about this slapping around

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Speaker 6: crazy my boy, my boy Novak and I come back.

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Speaker 4: We pick up Gibbet yep not.

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Speaker 6: Novak didn't expect to have two large gentlemen in the

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Speaker 6: Mustang convertible for a time in California, which feels very appropriate. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: very much so, I being, you know, one I did

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Speaker 6: not want. Gibbe is like, I'll get in the back.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, you are not getting in the back because

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Speaker 6: go straight across. So we got in there. I went

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Speaker 6: straight across the back. But the problem with that car

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Speaker 6: of course it was amongst the most uncomfortable things ever.

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Speaker 6: But we went out and Chris Rose invited us over

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Speaker 6: had a great meal with his family and hung out,

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Speaker 6: watched little Monday Night football, which was a snooze fest, terrible,

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Speaker 6: justin fields never starting for me again. And then we

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Speaker 6: he's got this great theater room.

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Speaker 2: It was awesome.

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Speaker 3: So we had a great you can do when they

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Speaker 3: were back. Yeah, you can do the association. You can

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Speaker 3: do it right one into the next. Out there still

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Speaker 3: the middle of the night. Gibbey's getting his first real

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Speaker 3: long test taste of West Coast time, and the wind

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Speaker 5: The only problem is trying to get work done. Like

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Speaker 5: I was just saying before the show, I got up.

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Speaker 5: It's like the alarm went off at seven am. I'm like, okay, great,

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Speaker 5: seven am, like let's get to work, except it's already

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Speaker 2: Split the difference. Wake up at six, then you're working

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Speaker 2: at nine. That's it. Just split the difference. That's all

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Speaker 2: you gotta do. It's safe safe. I will say this

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Speaker 2: album and you can.

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Speaker 6: You can continue to mock us while we're out here

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Speaker 6: for today. After today, though, no, sure it is gonna

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Speaker 6: be much. Are you doing more than you would normally

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just like I think.

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Speaker 5: To ladies and gentlemen, act we haven't gone through that,

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Speaker 5: we haven't gone all of it.

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Speaker 6: We are, but I mean on Monday, Monday was a

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Speaker 6: pretty solid day. Today, I don't know what today hasn't.

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Speaker 2: You were playing one of the five most exclusive golf

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Speaker 6: Brother, that's also true, but that's obviously weather and course related, right.

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Speaker 6: But you know, I love my routine of coming into

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Speaker 6: got to get going on my boards with a little

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Speaker 6: bit of you know, chaos going on obviously with our

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Speaker 6: football team in sense of we don't know, you know,

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Speaker 6: as we sit here today, necessarily who's going to be

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Speaker 4: So that that's you know, I don't know about you.

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Speaker 6: I find it harder and give me a mess saying

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Speaker 6: I find it harder to work in a hotel room

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Speaker 6: than I do in the office, just like I have

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Speaker 6: a hard time working out at a hotel gym compared

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Speaker 4: It's just like a different I would much rather work

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I also think the fact that it's seventy five and

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Speaker 2: sonny outside probably makes it tough to work.

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Speaker 3: Like it's a little easier to work when it's not like,

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Speaker 3: what else are you going to do here? It's cold

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Speaker 3: and so let's go knock and workout meantime? There you

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Speaker 3: look outside, you go good lord, there's Kelly Kapowski down

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Speaker 3: walk in the streets. Let's go have a good time.

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Speaker 3: See what's happening. That's that's the different Iron Mike at

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Speaker 3: the hotel.

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Speaker 2: Little Mike Tyson.

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Speaker 3: See that's what I'm saying, like, come on, man, you

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Speaker 3: guys gonna use the pool today though, right, because you

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Speaker 3: just have the show.

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Speaker 2: And then you're done.

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Speaker 5: Actually, we are allowed.

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Speaker 2: We're back. We're in.

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Speaker 5: We're back, and we're in. Maybe they were listening, maybe

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Speaker 5: how did I'm going, I'm going all that? How did

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Speaker 5: you find that out? Well, we're on a text chain, zye.

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Speaker 5: Did you not get the text this morning?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. If you put me on a

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Speaker 2: big long text chain, I'm just going to go ahead

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Speaker 2: and mute that.

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Speaker 5: Well, I figured, no, no, no, no, no. This is like the info,

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Speaker 5: like this is your schedule for the day. It doesn't

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Speaker 5: come like it's like one message a day. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 5: here's what's schedule. But it's more ready to get your meals.

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Speaker 4: It's more for the players typically.

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Speaker 2: Well okay, well this one had a little bit of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: No, Look, this is we're at the point now with

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 3: It is a very very specific map and trail to follow,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think you hope to get twenty one

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Speaker 2: Like the fact that we're.

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Speaker 6: Seven and four with everything that we know from an

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Speaker 4: It's a staggering thing.

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Speaker 6: Typically that would be a deathnell for a team that's

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Speaker 3: No, it's you know, we for much of this season

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Speaker 3: The number to get for postseason play, I mean, I

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Speaker 3: You get to ten. Over the rest of this season,

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Speaker 3: Let's take our shot exactly.

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Speaker 6: Once you get in listen in one game scenarios, one

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Speaker 6: Right And to say that we would be like the

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Speaker 4: Obviously that was a long long time ago.

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Speaker 6: But if you can get in, you get a quarterback

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Speaker 4: We've proven it. We can beat anybody. Is it gonna

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Speaker 6: Obviously, do we have to stay healthy on defense, Yes,

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Speaker 6: do we need I think to get Denzel wardback would

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Speaker 6: I feel like we should beat the Bears at home.

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Speaker 6: So you really need to win one of these two,

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The only thing with you know, if you get some

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Speaker 4: That could be helpful.

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Speaker 2: Sure, that's helpful.

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Speaker 3: Certainly Houston will be tough down at their place. And

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Speaker 6: That's Cincinnati at the end of the I mean Jets, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: even know. I don't understand what we're talking about. That

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Speaker 6: I have no understanding of why it would actually happens.

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Speaker 6: I know you keep saying that, but why would he

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Speaker 3: And also, whether he plays or not, I think the

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Speaker 2: He was talking about him. If he's just doing an

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Speaker 4: He's shut for the season, he's.

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Speaker 3: Done, So this keeps it top of mind every time

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Speaker 2: He didn surgery.

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Speaker 3: Though, right, Yes, I mean I think they have to

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Speaker 2: But you know so, it just.

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Speaker 4: I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: I don't either. That was bad ball last night.

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Speaker 6: Awful ball, awful Dobbs sounds like could be losing his job.

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Speaker 6: Four Picks Fields. Every time I looked up at the screen,

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Speaker 3: The open field. No, it's it was. It's a tough watch.

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Speaker 3: The crazy thing is like the Bears really don't want

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Speaker 3: And it's just very clear, simple play there.

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Speaker 4: We were talking about this last night.

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Speaker 6: What do you I said, Atlanta should give like a two.

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Speaker 4: We're a three for him.

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Speaker 3: You were probably still sleeping in your private bungalow when

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Speaker 3: to Atlanta as soon as he can. Yeah, that's and

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Speaker 6: Home run easy, makes all the sense in the world,

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Speaker 6: And I think that they would if I were the Falcons,

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Speaker 6: a passer, and you just don't see that. And so

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Speaker 6: I think, you know, Arthur Smith likes to run kind

447
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Speaker 6: of much more of a smashment. I think when you

448
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Speaker 6: have somebody that dynamic, you have an opportunity to do

449
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:39,959
Speaker 6: a lot more with him. Now they did a lot

450
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Speaker 6: of that stuff with Mariota, so he does get it.

451
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Speaker 6: But I think that would be I think that is

452
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Speaker 6: absolutely the perfect fit. And who knows if you know,

453
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Speaker 6: when you have three years now, right of is this

454
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 6: fields his third season?

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Speaker 2: Third season? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, when you have three years where you haven't really

457
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Speaker 6: been able to kind of break through and you are

458
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Speaker 6: still kind of battling consistency as a thrower of the football,

459
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Speaker 6: I don't know if that can rectify because so many

460
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,199
Speaker 6: bad habits have had to have been ingrained through some

461
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 6: of the coaching malfeasans that's happened with him there. But

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Speaker 6: I do think if you can put him in a

463
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Speaker 6: pretty safe environment and with a talented offensive line in

464
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Speaker 6: front of him, which Atlanta has good running game with

465
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 6: him his there's no reason to me why he can't

466
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Speaker 6: over the course of a few years, not necessarily become

467
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Speaker 6: what Jalen hurts is, but at least be on that path,

468
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Speaker 6: which should be enough for them to win the NFC

469
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Speaker 6: South for a while. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's the spot

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Speaker 6: for the no brainer. Yeah, that's that's easy.

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Speaker 3: That that's the no brainer one for them to do there,

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Speaker 3: and yeah for all of the It's funny I had

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Speaker 3: the it was Sunday, NBC said to me.

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Speaker 2: Why did we trade Dabbs?

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Speaker 5: Dad?

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Speaker 2: And I'm going, oh my god, Am I on the

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Speaker 2: radio right now?

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Speaker 5: Am I? Am?

479
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Speaker 2: I dealing with this on the radio right now?

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Speaker 3: So then I like, and my wife goes, you were

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Speaker 3: a little tough on him, weren't you? And I said,

482
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 3: I know, I'm just tired of it. Like I dealt

483
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Speaker 3: through it all the way through Thanksgiving all everybody kept

484
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Speaker 3: coming up to me, and so I did the same

485
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,359
Speaker 3: same thing that we've talked about, and we let's be

486
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Speaker 3: abundantly clear as a human love Josh Dobbs same could

487
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Speaker 3: not be a bigger fan. We almost fitnessed him getting

488
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Speaker 3: a golf ball to the melon and we were terrified

489
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Speaker 3: for the man.

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Speaker 2: At the outing.

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Speaker 3: So like, we love Dobbs, he's the best guy ever.

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Speaker 3: But the notion that the stretch that he had in

493
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Speaker 3: Minnesota was in play at the time of the trade

494
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Speaker 3: or based on what was seen last year in Tennessee

495
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Speaker 3: is farcical. Yeah, just it was never in play. And

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Speaker 3: so now the news that and he had the struggles

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Speaker 3: last night, and now the news that they could go

498
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Speaker 3: in another direction when they come off of their bye week.

499
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Speaker 3: Who else is on that roster.

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Speaker 6: Nick Mullens And then they have the young they have

501
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Speaker 6: a young quarterback like Jalen Hall Maybe I don't know

502
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Speaker 6: something like that.

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Speaker 2: Take your word for it, but they'll get Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 2: back after the bye and if they don't turn it

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Speaker 2: over last if he doesn't throw the picks last night eight,

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Speaker 2: they win and they're seven and five. Yes, So that's

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Speaker 2: the uh, that's the tricky part of that.

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Speaker 6: Jaren Hall is the third quarterback, their fifth round pick

516
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Speaker 6: this year.

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Speaker 4: Out of Jaron.

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Speaker 5: Hall BYU compliments a Mellensic.

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Speaker 2: Just hodd a BYU. That's right, good job out of Mallensic.

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Speaker 5: Who know coming through?

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Speaker 2: Who know delivering?

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Speaker 5: That's good you good news. Jacob Squared's working hard, good Yeah,

523
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Speaker 5: just making sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's doing his business. He knows what's going on.

525
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: He knows where his bread's buttered.

526
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Speaker 6: So last since after missing twenty twenty with an injury.

527
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Speaker 6: Last two years, fifty four touchdowns, eleven interceptions, eighteen and

528
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 6: eight as the starter are tell it jumps off the screen.

529
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 6: Excellent scrambler. So they like them, just not consistent. But

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Speaker 6: somebody that you know, that's somebody they why wouldn't they

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Speaker 6: give a look.

532
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Speaker 2: To give them a look?

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Speaker 6: I think they almost obviously if they had Kirk Cousins.

534
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Speaker 6: They feel like they're making the playoffs, but I would

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Speaker 6: imagine they probably would rather get a look see at

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Speaker 6: that guy at this point.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but they're still so in it, right, aren't they

538
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 4: still so in.

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Speaker 2: This smack dab in the middle of it. Yeah? Yeah,

540
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Speaker 2: They're in a weird spot because they're not real contenders

541
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Speaker 2: in an NFC that has three great teams and then

542
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Speaker 2: a golf So but like, what's the value for them

543
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Speaker 2: to make the postseason?

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Speaker 6: So they currently are in as the seven seed with

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Speaker 6: the Packers who are surging potentially the Rams as well

546
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Speaker 6: right on their heels.

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Speaker 3: So I think the Packers in the Rams of the

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Speaker 3: two teams that would much prefer to be in the

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Speaker 3: postseason at all cost, yes, versus the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Yes, who I think kind of you know you kind

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Speaker 2: of punt on.

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Speaker 3: This totally is the way that that goes if if

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Speaker 3: it were up to the people in charge of that operation.

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Speaker 3: All right, coming up next after further review thought as well,

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Speaker 6: Doc to z, all right, let's get into it. By

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Speaker 6: the way, I got you a sweet black lid. I

565
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Speaker 6: think we'll go very nicely with what you What you

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Speaker 6: like it? What you like? Yeah, I like the guy.

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Speaker 2: I love you, you know I do.

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Speaker 3: If anyone could be out there frolicking, and it would

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Speaker 3: be you that you're the one human who gulps joy.

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Speaker 3: You and Bootsy are the two humans I know who gulp.

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Speaker 5: Joy would most certainly do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are spirit animals. Still no punishment. It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I've had it locked and loaded for weeks and he

574
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 3: knows it's even last night when he was on the

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Speaker 3: cusp last night with this bedtime, like my wife had

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Speaker 3: told him twice to go to bed and it's supposed

577
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Speaker 3: to be one. As soon as he heard my foot

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Speaker 3: hit the step to go downstairs up and sprinting to

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Speaker 3: the bed bedroom like I didn't even get a chance.

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Speaker 2: I was coming for it. But he's ready, he's prepared.

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Speaker 2: You've prepared him somehow, you must speak with him through

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Speaker 2: I don't know how some.

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Speaker 4: Spirit animals we're connected.

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Speaker 2: I guess because he is.

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Speaker 3: You doled out the punishment and now I cannot give

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Speaker 3: it to him because he's he's steered player.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, it's great.

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Speaker 4: I loved it.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: Let's start on the offense number one, buddy, what do

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Speaker 2: you got?

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Speaker 4: All right? Number one?

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Speaker 7: Further review.

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00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 6: DTR's last drive. I want to take you through a

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Speaker 6: few play sequences. Third and eight at the twenty three

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Speaker 6: This is the pass that I'm sure a lot of

597
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 6: people have seen going around on social media.

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00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 4: They get a free blitzer.

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Speaker 6: He is falling backwards and gets it all the way

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Speaker 6: on the out to Amari Cooper, thrown well before he

601
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 6: broke an absolute perfect ball for eleven yards. First down Browns,

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Speaker 6: then Ford thirteen, then DTR with a dime to Chief

603
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 6: for sixteen, Ford for six, DTR with another dime to

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Speaker 6: Chief for seventeen. That stretch, right there is what this

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00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 6: team can be. And I think if you're watching, you

606
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 6: know from a DTR lens, you had to be really

607
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 6: encouraged by what he was able to do on his

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00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 6: final three possessions. The Confidency showed some of the balls

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Speaker 6: that he threw. He really should have thrown a touchdown

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Speaker 6: at second in goal to Chief on that back shoulder.

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00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 6: Unfortunately Chief wasn't able to bring it in. And then

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Speaker 6: to kind of have the poise get the touchdown on

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Speaker 6: the on the fourth down play, and then on the

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Speaker 6: two point conversion, I thought did such a good job

615
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 6: being patient, letting it open up, getting it to a Mario.

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00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 6: Obviously Mary couldn't come down with the catch, but I

617
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 6: was so encouraged by what I saw from dtr and

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00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 6: this one that it's I think for Browns fans, obviously,

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Speaker 6: if he's unable to go, I think we know what

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00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 6: you know you probably have to do on some level.

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Speaker 4: But if he is, he's starting to.

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Speaker 6: Show you things that I think you certainly can be

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Speaker 6: building on as a Cleveland Browns fan, and certainly for

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00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 6: as a play caller in Kevin Stefanski, all of it,

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00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,959
Speaker 6: I think you really can. There are things that you

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00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 6: can see from him that that are really starting to

627
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Speaker 6: be very very good.

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Speaker 5: He's a pro.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback, that's what he is like. He's he's very nice.

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Speaker 3: He's a lot better than the statistics would leave you

631
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Speaker 3: to believe either this.

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Speaker 6: Much much you take to throw twelve more completions on

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Speaker 6: his on his totals, and all of a sudden he's

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Speaker 6: you know, uh, let's see on the season dtr is.

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Speaker 5: What is it?

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00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 6: Oh, he's fifty eight for one oh nine, So that's

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00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 6: fifty three point two percent. Add twelve to that, seventy

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00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 6: for one of nine. So you're in the good, solid

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00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 6: six mid six seventy nine sixty.

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Speaker 4: Sixty four percent. You'd be we'd be thrilled with that,

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Speaker 4: you would.

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00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: All right?

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00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 7: Number two after further review.

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00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 6: Ethan Posek is starting to play just incredible football for

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00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 6: the Browns, and it's one of those things that kind

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00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 6: of goes unnoticed. As a center, you know, you don't

647
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 6: call his name out very often. He's some good pulling

648
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 6: in the run game, but from a pass protection standpoint,

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00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 6: he's only allowed one sack this season, no sack since

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00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 6: Week six. As Simeon gave it, he allowed no pressures

651
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 6: in this game against the Denver Broncos yesterday. He's allowed just,

652
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 6: on average, less than one pressure a game in his

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00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 6: last seven. He is playing great football for the Cleveland Browns.

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00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: He really is Yeah, he's the middle of that line.

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00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: Continues to be something to shine certainly. All right, number three.

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00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 7: After further review.

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Speaker 6: You know, we talked about it a little bit yesterday,

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00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 6: but I think it's worth going back and saying, you know,

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00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 6: there's a lot to like about Cedric Tillman, and it's

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Speaker 6: you know, third round pick. Obviously DPJ was ahead of him.

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Speaker 6: You didn't really kind of unleash him. But I thought

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00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 6: in this game, four catches for fifty five yards. He'd

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00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 6: had three for ten all season. He just showed you

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Speaker 6: what he can do, not only with the tough, physical

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00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 6: catches where he uses his size to post up, but

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Speaker 6: his ability to get open and down the field make

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Speaker 6: plays there. We know he's going to contested catch situations.

668
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Speaker 6: I mean, this was a guy who you know, was

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Speaker 6: over a thousand yards how a touchdown in seven straight games.

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Speaker 6: We know what he did against Alabama and Georgia and

671
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Speaker 6: the SEC. So this is a talented kid. And I

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Speaker 6: thought seeing him kind of take that first step where

673
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Speaker 6: you got a glimpse of, okay, what he can be

674
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Speaker 6: in this offense was a great, great thing to see.

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Speaker 3: He's got the look, you know, yes, he's just got

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Speaker 3: and then I love how I mean, he's got such

677
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Speaker 3: confidence in the strength of his hands to hold the

678
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: ball out away as as violence is happening around him.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty cool, all right.

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Speaker 6: Number four, after further review, you know, David Njoku nine targets,

681
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 6: six catches, fifty nine yards. That sounds good, and the

682
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 6: drops what it means, what it's telling me. If you

683
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Speaker 6: think about what he's done the last two games, he's

684
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Speaker 6: getting open consistently. Now we've got to catch all of

685
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 6: these when they're open. But Chief is getting open. And

686
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 6: you think about the two incompletions thrown or three incompletions

687
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Speaker 6: throw in his way. Two of them were should have

688
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Speaker 6: been caught, and I think one was just kind of

689
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Speaker 6: thrown away a little bit where he missed him down

690
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Speaker 6: the field. He's getting open and you've got to stick

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Speaker 6: with him. And obviously I think he's gonna work hard,

692
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 6: he's gonna get it figured out. But the Chief is

693
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Speaker 6: starting to play like a guy that you give him,

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Speaker 6: you know, nine to eleven targets a week, and if

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Speaker 6: he can, you know, catch the ones that he would

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Speaker 6: normally catch, you're talking about somebody who's gonna be in

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Speaker 6: that sixty plus yards range. I mean he's been over

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Speaker 6: fifty plus and four the last five he's had four

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Speaker 6: more catches, eight of the last nine. You're talking about

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Speaker 6: a player that is becoming a focal point of the

701
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Speaker 6: passing attack, and I think that's a very very good thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no question. All right, let's hit the defensive side.

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Speaker 2: Number one.

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Speaker 6: After further review, Jeremiah Wusu Koromo was beyond sensational. One

705
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Speaker 6: of the I think he was the top graded linebacker

706
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Speaker 6: in the National Football League this past week at Pro

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Speaker 6: Football Focus with a ninety three point six. He had

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Speaker 6: twelve tackles to lead the team, a sack, a forced fumble,

709
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 6: couple tackles for loss to add already to his team lead.

710
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 6: He had six According what PFF does is stops near

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Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: He had six of them.

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Speaker 6: I thought he played a fantastic, fantastic game and we

714
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Speaker 6: are watching him become I think he should be in

715
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Speaker 6: Pro Bowl conversations. I think it's gonna be tough because

716
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Speaker 6: when they think of off ball linebackers, you know, Rokwan

717
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 6: is gonna be a Pro bowler for sure. In this conference,

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Speaker 6: you got people who are racking up big, big numbers

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Speaker 6: in terms of tackles. Even the guy we played last week,

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Speaker 6: Alex Singleton's well over one hundred. You got Zyr Franklin

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Speaker 6: in Indianapolis is racking up the stats that way. But

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Speaker 6: you're talking about making plays at or behind the line

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Speaker 6: of scrimmage. I don't know if anybody has been better

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Speaker 6: than Jeremiah usu Korromo.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got let me run this by you.

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Speaker 3: In terms if Denzel can get back relatively soon, Denzel

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Speaker 3: Miles obviously on All Pro. Denzel's got a shot at

728
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Speaker 3: All Pro and then Pro Bowl defensively, I mean that

729
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: ends up being a pretty big long list as well,

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Speaker 3: Like Martin Emerson should be.

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Speaker 2: In considerations a Pro bowler.

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Speaker 3: J Oka Delpit maybe in the mix as well, if

733
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Speaker 3: he finishes strong like he did a year ago. Is

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Speaker 3: there anybody else on our line? It's I mean, are

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Speaker 3: Dalvin's been so solid?

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Speaker 4: Dalvin's been so good?

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Speaker 6: You know, I think that Zadarius has been Pro Bowl

738
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Speaker 6: caliber in terms of his pressures, but the stats, the

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Speaker 6: sacks have not come, so you don't know how that

740
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Speaker 6: would be necessarily looked at around the league. But yeah,

741
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Speaker 6: you talk about you talk about MJ Emerson this year

742
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Speaker 6: forty four percent completions, fifty rating in coverage this year.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he has been so good.

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Speaker 2: He's a dude. He's a dude, all right.

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Speaker 7: Number two after further review.

746
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Speaker 6: Without Anthony Walker Junior, I thought the only Taki Taki

747
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 6: had a very nice game for the Cleveland Browns. He

748
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 6: was second on the team and stops at or behind

749
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Speaker 6: or near the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: I thought he was flying around.

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Speaker 6: Making good plays, so physical, and I know he likes

752
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Speaker 6: playing Mike. Obviously, we hope we get a walk back,

753
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Speaker 6: but I thought the only Taki Taki had a very

754
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 6: nice game as well.

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Speaker 2: Boy, you talk about a guy you couldn't root for

756
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Speaker 2: big enough. Yes, just on a list.

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Speaker 7: Number three after further review.

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Speaker 6: You mentioned him earlier, but Denzel Ward, we missed him

759
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Speaker 6: on a level in which I did not expect us

760
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Speaker 6: to not to say that when you have an all

761
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Speaker 6: pro corner come off the field that you're not gonna

762
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Speaker 6: feel it. Of course you are, but this was a

763
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Speaker 6: team that wasn't throwing it a ton, didn't really overall

764
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Speaker 6: throw it that effectively. But the matchup of Newsome and

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Speaker 6: Courtland Sutton ended up being a big, big win for

766
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Speaker 6: the Denver Broncos and not a big win for the

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Speaker 6: Cleveland Browns unfortunately. And it goes back to, you know,

768
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Speaker 6: maybe do we need to get m j Emerson matched

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Speaker 6: up with the guys of that size, you know, if

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Speaker 6: Denzel's not out there, because Denzel plays so much bigger

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Speaker 6: than his size because he's so physical. But that's something

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Speaker 6: that you know, coming out of that game that was

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Speaker 6: a surprise to me and unfortunately not in a not

774
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Speaker 6: in a great way.

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Speaker 3: No, And considering the matchup this week where Stafford is

776
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Speaker 3: really starting to spread it around to his receivers, Denzel

777
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Speaker 3: back would be a big, big boost to say the least.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because yeah, they got multiple guys, and you'd also

779
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 6: like to be able to get Greg Newsom back into

780
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Speaker 6: the slot where he's played very well, because that's where

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00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 6: Cooper Cup's going to be. And and you know Pooka

782
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 6: and Nakua and they've got two two at well, they've

783
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 6: got speed, they've got a lot of different ways they

784
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 6: can hurt you. And you know, good thing I think

785
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 6: for us with our linebackers and our safeties, with Grant

786
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 6: being near the line script hopefully we're able to handle

787
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Speaker 6: Kyraen Williams in the past game because that's where he's

788
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 6: really been been doing some damage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was great. Number four.

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Speaker 7: After further review.

791
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Speaker 6: This defense and its ability to generate pressures is off

792
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 6: the charts, and you're getting him from Obo who makes

793
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 6: plays every game. Zadarius had another five in this one.

794
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Speaker 6: Alex Wright I thought stood out with a very good game.

795
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 6: He had two pressures. Miles clearly was limited a little

796
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Speaker 6: bit by that shoulder. You know, one pressure that was

797
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 6: probably that's a season low for him, But you have

798
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 6: so many guys breaking through making play. Shelby Harris I

799
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 6: feel like finds his way into the backfield quite a

800
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 6: bit when he's out there, as does Maurice Hurst. I

801
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 6: like kind of this defensive line, the rotation and what

802
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 6: you're getting out of all of the different players on

803
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 6: this defensive line. It's been really it's fun to watch

804
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 6: in a game in which Miles still you know, didn't

805
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 6: have necessarily his best game again due to that shoulder.

806
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 6: It still felt like Russell Wilson was under duress and

807
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 6: he did a great job escaping from the pocket and

808
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 6: extending plays, but it still felt like overall we did

809
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 6: a good job getting there. And Matt Stafford is not

810
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 6: that kind of quarterback. He is not going to extend plays,

811
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 6: run around for eight seconds before he throws it. He's

812
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 6: a little bit more statue esque. And if we can

813
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 6: generate that kind of pressure, I think our sack numbers

814
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 6: in this game should go up.

815
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Speaker 3: Well said sir, and good John Bety you hell of

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Speaker 3: a segment. One thought on every NFL game, Week twelve.

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Speaker 3: only one, yeah of course, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Loucks to like there.

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 2: You ready for giving for you.

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Speaker 5: Wait a minute? Yeah, I mean, I mean no Melrose Place.

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Speaker 2: But well that was a different level.

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Speaker 4: It's a different that's a different animal.

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Speaker 2: One was like a wholesome high school comedy. The other

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Speaker 2: was I'm sure.

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Speaker 5: That was a wholesome comedy.

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Speaker 2: Well, for the beginning. It was.

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Speaker 3: It was in the high school years and then the

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Speaker 3: college years. You know, Kelly Kapowski shows up as Valen

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Speaker 3: Malone and then that ratcheted up a notch.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I turned the business picked up. I still am

838
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Speaker 6: amazed how they was at Gabrielle Carterisy said that she

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Speaker 6: was like in her like thirties. I feel like she was.

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Speaker 2: That's like for real, she legitimately was, Yeah, in her thirties,

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Speaker 2: playing of her of her Wait, ye, there's no way

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Speaker 2: that was your number one draft pick on that show.

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Speaker 4: The number one, but Gibbet was drafting.

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Speaker 2: Yep, very good, you're the one. Give let's do it,

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Speaker 2: one thought.

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Speaker 4: The one.

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Speaker 5: Of course my computer is.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Saints fifteen losing to the Atlanta Falcons twenty four

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Speaker 6: to fifteen. Both teams now five and six. Does anyone

850
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 6: want to win the NFC South Bishop.

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Speaker 2: No, they don't, And I think the Saints are probably

852
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: the most disappointing team in football that hasn't been ransacked

853
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Speaker 2: by injuries.

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Speaker 5: Why did you randomly start with.

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Speaker 6: That because that was first on my list of games,

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Speaker 6: It's not on mine.

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Speaker 2: Well, you guys have a problem with that. You didn't

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Speaker 2: have list, do you hear what I said.

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Speaker 3: I was disappointing non injury team in the NFL as

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Speaker 3: a Saints.

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Speaker 6: Yes, although they have now I mean Michael Thomas, who

862
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 6: is at this point it feels like it's just cooked.

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Speaker 2: He's washed.

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Speaker 6: And they had what was the Lattimore went on ir

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Speaker 6: But yes, and this was a game in which car

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Speaker 6: you know, threw for three hundred yards average eight yards

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Speaker 6: an attempt.

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Speaker 4: They ran it for one hundred and fifty yards.

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Speaker 6: I just don't understand without having watched this game snap

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Speaker 6: to snap, can somebody explain to me how they didn't

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Speaker 6: score more than fifteen points. They ran for one hundred

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00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 6: and fifty yards at five point three a pop. They

873
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 6: threw for three hundred and four yards. They did have

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00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 6: one giveaway. They oh, they had two giveaways. But they

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00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 6: were even in the turnover battle two to two. They

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Speaker 6: out gained They out gained the Falcons four hundred and

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Speaker 6: forty four to three ninety six. They converted six to

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Speaker 6: fourteen on third downs. They possessed the ball for almost

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Speaker 6: thirty two minutes. They went oh for five in the

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00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 6: red zone. Well there that's the answer. Oh for five

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Speaker 6: in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: Did you see Jamis dancing and rapping in front of

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Speaker 2: the car was great.

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Speaker 5: The best part, did I see correctly? Ludicrous swinging from

885
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 5: the rafters, I think you did see that and performing

886
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 5: at halftime.

887
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: That's right, good, that's right perfect.

888
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: Falcons ran.

889
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 5: It was the best part of that game.

890
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 6: Falcons ran for two hundred and twenty eight yards in

891
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 6: this one. Three Kyle Pitts. Get him off that team.

892
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 6: You gotta get gone, get him some where where like

893
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 6: he's gonna play as he should.

894
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: That'd be a fun like off season conversation, like players

895
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: in team prisons.

896
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, fine, and.

897
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 5: Like uh uh. Next from the AFC North Squealer sixteen Bengals,

898
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 5: ten Zegura one thought.

899
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 6: They really had it going lucky they are they just

900
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 6: they capitalize on your mistakes. Browning had a chance to

901
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 6: put them up fourteen to three in the second, Quartern

902
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 6: throws a terrible, terrible red zone pick and that was it.

903
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 4: That was basically it. From that moment on.

904
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: Painful.

905
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 6: I thought the Steelers did a good a better job offensively.

906
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 6: You know, Nazi Harris looked really good. They got Friarmuth involved.

907
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 6: You know, Friarmuth came into that game. I think with

908
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 6: nine catches on the season for sixty yards.

909
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

910
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 6: I remember going into our game he had eight catches

911
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 6: coming in. I think he had one nine for you know,

912
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 6: basically sixty yards and had nine for one twenty in

913
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 6: this game. You started incorporating him over the middle of

914
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 6: the field. We talked about it in the lead up

915
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 6: to our game that Pickett had thrown fewest number of

916
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 6: passes completions, yards per attempt, total yards, all of it

917
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 6: on passes over the middle.

918
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 5: And Fiermuth was pretty good for them a year ago,

919
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 5: like get him involved, it wasn't. I mean, they have

920
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 5: four hundred yards offense. It didn't show up in the score,

921
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 5: but sure four hundred yards is way more than they've had.

922
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 3: Yes, I think Cincinnati's the most one of the more fascinating.

923
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 3: What do they do because of all of the teams

924
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: that had a catastrophic injury, they're the one that was

925
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: a legit, let's go win the Super Bowl team. Like

926
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: everybody else, we had to see it. They were all

927
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: in on this year, obviously with t Higgins and all

928
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 3: of that. I don't know what they do coming down

929
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 3: the stretch. I don't know, like the best thing to

930
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 3: do would be to push the chips in and go

931
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: five and twelve and get Rome Adouzia or one of

932
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: those guys to or show up your offensive line something

933
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 3: like that. But I just don't know if the veterans

934
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: on that team will will allow it and how hard

935
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 3: will they play.

936
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 6: Up next it is. It is interesting. What's kind of

937
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 6: the temperature down there, and.

938
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: Nobody knows what They're gonna have a.

939
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 4: Very They're gonna have an interesting offseason.

940
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Ricky Bobby. They don't know what to

941
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 2: do with their hands.

942
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 3: That's right, you know, like if it was before the deadline,

943
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 3: they would have traded Higgins.

944
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: Sure.

945
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 4: Sure, the deadline in the NFL needs to be later.

946
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 5: It needs to be like now, that's my factor of

947
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 5: fiction in the pregame show is that Thanksgiving it needs

948
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 5: to be after seventy five one is done so the

949
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 5: teams that are know that they're in it can go

950
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 5: make moves to buttress their teams while sacrificing stuff for

951
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 5: the future, and teams that are out of it can

952
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 5: It just.

953
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 4: Makes it makes so much sense.

954
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 6: You don't know really what's going on in early what

955
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 6: is it a Halloween?

956
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, even you're not even halfway.

957
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: Through the season.

958
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 5: Not anymore.

959
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: You're not at least got to be twelve games, ten

960
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 2: eleven games in.

961
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 6: You got I think it's at a minimum two thirds

962
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 6: of this season. Yes, ideally seventy five percent. Because seventy

963
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 6: five percent, you saw, you'll after twelve games, everybody would

964
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 6: have five games left, Like, that's still a long time.

965
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: Well, everybody else's trade deadline like the basketball ones in

966
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: the middle to the end of February.

967
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 6: Well, and basketball has where veterans like, for example, let's

968
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 6: say a Ryan Tannehill, Yes, could get bought out.

969
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 4: And be free agents.

970
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah right, they should have that too. Yeah, I agree.

971
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 5: From the AFC South Jacksonville with a big win over

972
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 5: Houston twenty four to twenty one. Bishop one thought from

973
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 5: you as Jacksonville goes to eight and three, the Texans

974
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 5: fall to six and five.

975
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: Both these teams really good. Both these teams have really

976
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: bright futures because of their quarterbacks. That division GET has

977
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 3: gone from like the worst division in football to really

978
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 3: interesting over the next five years. Levis looks okay for

979
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: the Titans. Obviously, Stroud's next level So is.

980
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: Why am I blanking.

981
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 4: Lawrence Trevor la Trevor.

982
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, and then and then you you got Richardson

983
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: coming back with the Colts. You're talking about really four

984
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 3: intriguing quarterbacks in that divisions.

985
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 6: The girl I like to see my guy, dearness Johnson

986
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 6: put up in this game one catch for forty two yards,

987
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 6: seven carries, nineteen sixty one total yards. Darren Johnson. Excited

988
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 6: to see him when when they come back here in

989
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 6: a few weeks. Uh tough obviously CJ gets him down

990
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 6: to field Goring's fifty eight yarder, albeit off the crossbar.

991
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 6: That's a that's a painful one because it's looking so

992
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 6: good and just needed just another foot. Yeah, this is

993
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 6: a fun game. This should become a fun rivalry. Jags

994
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 6: Texans should be a pretty good one for years to come.

995
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 6: Stroud's dealan and Trevor Lawrence is is dealing as well.

996
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 6: That the good teams, good teams and the Texans, you know,

997
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 6: early season on your schedule late you're like, okay, that'll

998
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 6: be a nice win. That is going to be a tough,

999
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 6: tough matchup for the Cleveland Browns.

1000
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 5: This one bears watching going forward. The Colts with a

1001
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 5: big win over Baker and the Buccaneers twenty seven to

1002
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 5: twenty Colts are playing good football right now hanging around,

1003
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 5: which is exactly what they need. Some news today out

1004
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 5: of Indye though from Ian Rapaport, Jonathan Taylor suffered an

1005
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 5: injured thumb that is requiring further evaluation, puts his status

1006
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 5: in doubt going forward. All options are on the table.

1007
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 2: Bishop one thought, not great for my fantasy team.

1008
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 3: I had Sadie drafted Jonathan Taylor and waited on that

1009
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: contract to get sorted out.

1010
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: I figured it would and he's been really good. It's

1011
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: not good for them either.

1012
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 3: It's interesting, like Minshew, how capable he is, Like there's

1013
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: a hard ceiling on it, but it's a ceiling in

1014
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 3: the way that the league is now with all the

1015
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 3: quarterback injuries where they can be a playoff team.

1016
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 5: Yep.

1017
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, Moss played well earlier when he was out.

1018
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you hope they can keep that going. I

1019
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 6: like them, Pittman's playing well. We like downs Minshoe. Solid defense,

1020
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 6: that's a fun that's a fun team. And our our

1021
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 6: victory over them was a was a much bigger one

1022
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 6: than maybe we even thought at the time.

1023
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

1024
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 6: And on the other side of it, for the Bucks, Like,

1025
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 6: at some point, don't you just say, okay, let's play

1026
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 6: the kid and see what he's got. Trask, Yeah, I

1027
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 6: would think, I mean, how we are we coming closely?

1028
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 6: As you're four and seven, but in that conference, you're

1029
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 6: like a game out at four and seven, I.

1030
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 5: Don't know, up next gross game of the week. And

1031
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 5: outside of of course Falcons and Saints Giants ten, Patriots seven,

1032
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 5: the g Men go to four and eight. On the year,

1033
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 5: the Patriots are two and nine, and I can make

1034
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 5: an argument that the worst team in the NFL's a

1035
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 5: girl one thought from you.

1036
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: Patriots are are terrible. Yep, awful, awful, it is.

1037
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 4: This is one of those.

1038
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 6: Real sad This is gonna be a very sad end

1039
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 6: to the Bill Belichick tenure in New England, right like, yes,

1040
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 6: this has to be it, don't you think? M Yeah,

1041
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 6: So that's just to me, that's that's a sad thing.

1042
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 6: Mac Jones is broken. Guy was a pro bowler as

1043
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 6: a rookie. Now is getting completely outplayed by Tom Deveto

1044
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 6: just the it's it's sad when this is the full

1045
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 6: on collapse of the dynasty. We knew what's Brady left.

1046
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 6: Obviously it was on a downward path. But you know,

1047
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 6: I think they go to the playoffs maybe that first

1048
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 6: year with Mac.

1049
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: I think they did with Yeah, they lost like a.

1050
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 6: Wild card, and you're like, Okay, all right, they're still

1051
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 6: gonna be good. They're gonna Bill good figure not figured out.

1052
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 6: They are dreadful.

1053
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they suck.

1054
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: The roster sucks, and the reality is is that there's

1055
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 3: no quick fix there, Like they really have to go

1056
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: to the bottom. And they can't allow for Bill to

1057
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 3: have a say on what they do to try to

1058
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: build it up because he's proven he can't do it

1059
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: from a draft standpoint. So the reality that he's if

1060
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 3: he's going to break Don Shula's record, it's not going

1061
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: to happen in New England. Is That's the number one

1062
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 3: takeaway from me from what's happened this year in New England.

1063
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 5: Up next, Titans seventeen, Panthers ten. Tennessee goes to four

1064
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 5: and seven. Just kind of hanging out again, Mike Vrabel

1065
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 5: style Bishop one thought from.

1066
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 3: You, it's just the mess of Carolina. I mean, you

1067
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: see temper today from their owner in the next segment.

1068
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: Okay, so we'll have some of that, but like just

1069
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: it's just clown show there.

1070
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: They blew it on Bryce Young. Whoever made that decision

1071
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 3: final blew it on that. Now, to be fair, I

1072
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 3: don't I'm not going to say he's absolutely a failure.

1073
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 3: He'd have to be an incredible outlier to overcome the limitations.

1074
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 2: And size that he has.

1075
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: Absolutely, but they have no talent around him. This is

1076
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 3: not a position for him to succeed in any way,

1077
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 3: shape or form. So if there was a chance for

1078
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: him to succeed, it was not going to be here.

1079
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 4: Valid correct, agreed. I think that.

1080
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 6: It's so hard to know what anybody would have looked

1081
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 6: like going there. No true, But and Bryce Young, I

1082
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 6: probably needed to be in Houston in a dome that

1083
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 6: would have suited him better. I think CJ. Stroud probably

1084
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 6: would be good anywhere. But would he be doing what

1085
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 6: he's doing in Houston? I don't think so.

1086
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: Carolina, Tank Dell and No, no.

1087
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 5: So.

1088
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 6: Again you think of we just went back to back

1089
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 6: games here. To me, Patriots Panthers would be the worst

1090
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 6: possible game that you could have in the NFL right now.

1091
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the two worst teams.

1092
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 5: I'd agree with that. Up next, the team we will

1093
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 5: play Sunday here in Los Angeles, the Rams thirty seven,

1094
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 5: Cardinals fourteen. I really thought the Cardinals would make a

1095
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 5: much better showing and noted and noted, we boy, were

1096
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 5: we wrong? But uh, as a girl, one thought.

1097
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 6: From me, just a classic Stafford performance. Twenty five to

1098
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 6: thirty three, four touchdowns through the air. Kyron Williams comes

1099
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 6: back and he gives them two hundred and nine total

1100
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 6: yards and two touchdowns. Royce Freeman ran for so they

1101
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 6: ran for two hundred twenty eight yards on seven yards

1102
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 6: of carry. They are going to be a full day offensively.

1103
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 6: I think we can absolutely get after their defense, but

1104
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 6: they will be a full day offensively.

1105
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: At Well's a home run hitter. You know, they've got.

1106
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 6: Pooka Nakua, who's and Cooper Cup and cups kind of

1107
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 6: calmed down, cool down, so is Nakua. But this is

1108
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 6: still a very dangerous team and it's one that you

1109
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 6: do not want to let get out ahead of you.

1110
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 6: As they were able to kind of really physically dominate

1111
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 6: Arizona as this game went on, we did not we did.

1112
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 3: Not give proper attention to Kyron Williams coming back and

1113
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 3: agreed he would give them I knew there was talk

1114
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 3: that he was coming back.

1115
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: We thought he was coming back. I guess maybe we

1116
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 2: just had forgot how.

1117
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 3: Good he had become before the injury and didn't know

1118
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 3: that he would just be able to jump right back

1119
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 3: in it. But it's just a different level when you

1120
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 3: have him, Yes.

1121
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: The playmaker, swavemaker. Be amazing to see him out where

1122
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: you guys are now in the elements.

1123
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 5: Run into him. Yeah, up next. At one point in

1124
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 5: this football game, the Chiefs trailed the Las Vegas Raiders

1125
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 5: fourteen to nothing. Yeah, however, the Chiefs remember they're the Chiefs,

1126
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 5: and the Raiders remembered they're the Raiders. Chiefs thirty one,

1127
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 5: Raiders seventeen.

1128
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: Bishop One thought, yeah, I mean this one we had.

1129
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 3: I believe I had this one, that this was an

1130
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: eight and a half point number. And even at fourteen

1131
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 3: to nothing, you just think, like the Raiders have been

1132
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 3: going on a motion of and Antonio Pears is in

1133
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 3: a tremendous job. But there's an end to that at

1134
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 3: some point, and Mahomes turf Dome.

1135
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: Sold I'll take it. Well, they'll sort it out, and

1136
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: they did.

1137
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 6: There's a finite ceiling there, so girl, Yeah, finite ceiling

1138
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 6: for the Raiders. They're not a very good football team either.

1139
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 6: Chiefs look good. Rashi Rice one hundred yard game, but

1140
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 6: you want to say him has maybe stacked some of

1141
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 6: those and become maybe that go to receiver to complement

1142
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 6: Travis Kelcey. But other than that, yeah, Chiefs kind of

1143
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 6: as you expected. Didn't expect them to get in a hole,

1144
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 6: but once they kind of calmed down, they held the

1145
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 6: Raiders at three points the rest of the way, which

1146
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 6: is probably more in line with what you expected from

1147
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 6: their defense and the way it's.

1148
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 5: Been playing Final one guys Eagles thirty seven Bills thirty

1149
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 5: four in over time, a shootout in Philly in the rains.

1150
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 5: The girl one.

1151
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 6: Thought probably the best game of the year, right, yep,

1152
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 6: probably the best game of the year. You had Josh

1153
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 6: Allen three thirty nine and two passing eighty one and

1154
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 6: two rushing. On the other side, Jalen Hurts two hundred

1155
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 6: passing with three touchdowns. He ran for sixty five and

1156
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 6: two touchdowns and had everything you want to Vonte Smith

1157
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 6: making big plays, AJ Brown getting in the end zone,

1158
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 6: DeAndre Swift running on the Buffalo side. You know it

1159
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 6: was Josh Allen kind of carrying this offense. Digs got

1160
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 6: in the end zone, gave Davis one hundred and a touchdown.

1161
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 6: You know, James Cook one hundred total yards. This game

1162
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 6: had all that you wanted. This was just an old

1163
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 6: fashioned shootout, great game and the Eagles in overtime able

1164
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 6: to pull it out on the legs of Jalen Hurts.

1165
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 5: Was it was.

1166
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 6: It was a fun one to watch. We got to

1167
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 6: watch the end of that one best game of the year.

1168
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 6: And for the Bills, nobody wants to see them get

1169
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 6: into the playoffs, and they can tell you that, but

1170
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 6: they're just kind of teetering right now on the on

1171
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 6: the outside potentially looking in.

1172
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 3: Well, you watch that game and you go, Josh Allen's

1173
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 3: the best player on the field, but then he has

1174
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 3: the turnovers and you go, well, this is the quintessential

1175
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 3: Josh Allen experience.

1176
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you got all of it.

1177
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 3: And but that's why nobody would want to play him

1178
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: in the postseason, because of what he's capable of and

1179
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 3: how dangerous he is. The Eagles are at San Francisco

1180
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 3: this week. So their stretch was what two weeks ago,

1181
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 3: Kansas City, YEP, then Bills, then Niners.

1182
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: Yep, like that's a full day. Yes to do this.

1183
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 4: It is for all of that to happen.

1184
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 2: All right, good job out of you.

1185
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 5: Give me.

1186
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 3: Coming up in the second hour, you'll hear from coach Tfanski,

1187
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 3: we will do a little higher or lower your twenty

1188
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: five semifinalists for the Hall of Fame and Panthers owner

1189
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 3: David Tepper.

1190
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,160
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1191
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,880
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Speaker 2: Football League announces the twenty five Modern Era seven ME

1202
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: finalists for the class of.

1203
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty four. Okay, let's take a look this is

1204
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 3: all right, So here they are. Let's just go ze.

1205
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 3: Let's play game. Yep, I'll say a name, you say yes, no, yep,

1206
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 3: love it just first reaction.

1207
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: How about your play Contender Pretender with with griff.

1208
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 5: Yes, tender?

1209
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: Do we have it?

1210
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 5: Tender? Yeah?

1211
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 2: Is that even possible?

1212
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 5: Climac? That would be Is it possible? There was a

1213
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 5: sounder that was in.

1214
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 4: How's that not on a hot key?

1215
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: Gotta be ready?

1216
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame Contender or Pretender?

1217
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 5: It would be from a Friday CBD show, Climac. We

1218
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 5: can fill here for a minute.

1219
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, we can o pro We gotta have it, we

1220
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 6: gotta have it, gotta have I feel like it's the

1221
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 6: perfect way to do this.

1222
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: It's funny. We looked forward to wish I could see's

1223
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 2: reaction right now, Uno would be very pleased. We looked

1224
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: forward to the hoff going in for so long and

1225
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 2: now he's in.

1226
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 5: He's in?

1227
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 4: Is he? Is he in the United States?

1228
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: I don't think so, right because isn't his flight? Yeah?

1229
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 2: So who knows? Who knows? There worse places to be stuck.

1230
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 2: But also that's a I guess what would be the solution?

1231
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 3: Like if you can't get a plane what is that

1232
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 3: drive from Port of Iarta?

1233
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 6: Like, no, how far down? No, impossible, too far. It's

1234
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 6: a three hour flight from Texas.

1235
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 2: All right, I don't know where it is geographical?

1236
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 4: Is it Pacific southwest?

1237
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 5: Yes?

1238
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 2: West coast west coast of Mexico? How far south is it?

1239
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 5: Like?

1240
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: It's not on the same peninsula as Cabo.

1241
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 6: No, so Cabo's on the that its own peninsula. Porta

1242
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 6: that the Yucatan peninsula. I don't know what it's called

1243
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 6: with Cabo. Port of Illarta is north of it's way

1244
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 6: south of Cabo. Okay, Cabo's kind of at the same

1245
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 6: level as maz It Line. Okay, you're going way down

1246
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 6: before you're getting down to Port of Iyarda.

1247
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1248
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 6: I mean you're saying, how long would it be to

1249
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 6: drive to drive away from Portavarta Los Angeles?

1250
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 5: Okay, here's the question. My guess is a lot of family,

1251
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 5: kids and his wife Like.

1252
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's twenty four hundred miles. Yeah, it's

1253
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 3: twenty eight hours.

1254
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 4: Says one day, three hours.

1255
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So the closest place he could probably get to

1256
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: would be what like San Antonio with a real airport

1257
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: San Antonio. Yeah, let's see Okay, so now that's twenty

1258
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: What so I'm talking about like, yeah, there's no way,

1259
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: no way, Phoenix twenty two, good lord, eighteen. Yeah, no,

1260
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 2: that is down there, like way down there is down there. Yeah,

1261
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 2: l passes sixteen hundred miles. It's a trip. It's a trip, brother.

1262
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's got to be something like way in southern

1263
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 3: Texas that would be the closest.

1264
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: And you're driving across Mexico. Yeah, which I'm sure you're

1265
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: not crazy about.

1266
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 5: No, I don't think that's I don't think that's safe. Yeah.

1267
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, it's a long ways long hike. All right.

1268
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, he's not driving, he's flying, so he's he

1269
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 3: could legitimately be stuck.

1270
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yeah again though like stuck in Wisconsin.

1271
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 3: Well, you like being stuck place, but you also want

1272
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 3: to be able to get out eventually. The thing that's

1273
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: tricky about the Mexico thing, or if I were to

1274
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 3: get stuck in Hawaii this spring, is like if I

1275
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 3: get stuck, I can't drive.

1276
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 6: Yes, like you're stuck stuck, you can't swim, No, you

1277
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 6: can't No, too far, too far?

1278
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 9: All right?

1279
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: Are we ready for this?

1280
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 5: Oh? We're ready? Let's go.

1281
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 2: All right, here we go.

1282
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 3: So we'll go contender or pre tender with the twenty

1283
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 3: five semi finalists to be inducted into the Pro Football

1284
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. Uh, let's start with Eric Eric Allen.

1285
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 10: Contender or pre tender.

1286
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 4: This is this is gonna make me really happy.

1287
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 5: Eric Allen Griff just texts me, He's like, damn you

1288
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 5: guys awesome.

1289
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 6: I think I think a pretender, pretend. I think pretender,

1290
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 6: six time Pro Bowler, one time first team All Pro.

1291
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 6: But I think Hall of really good. I don't think

1292
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:19,959
Speaker 6: Hall of Fame all right.

1293
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 10: Next contender or pretender good?

1294
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 3: Jared Allen, the defensive end who was best with the Vikings.

1295
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 6: So I think Jared Allen in my mind when I

1296
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 6: hear that, I think of contender. When you leave the

1297
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 6: league in sacks, as he did multiple times, he had

1298
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 6: a stretch of one, two, three, four, five, six, seven

1299
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 6: seasons in a row of double digit sacks, and you've

1300
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 6: got four first time All Pro, First Team All pros,

1301
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 6: five time Pro Bowler, Defensive Player of the Year, you got.

1302
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 2: How's he been a semi finalist four times? What's taken

1303
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: so long?

1304
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1305
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 4: I think I think contender, all right.

1306
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 10: Next contender or pre tender.

1307
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 4: It's better every time. It's like it's a new inflection.

1308
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 5: It really is.

1309
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: Willie Anderson the tackle out of the Bengals and Ravens

1310
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: feels pretender in my head. Yeah, I think the time

1311
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, but I.

1312
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 4: Think that's fair.

1313
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 6: Actually played his best ball at the end of his

1314
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 6: career was three consecutive seasons a first team All Pro

1315
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 6: really yep, one time second team so four time Pro

1316
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 6: Bowl or three time All Pro probably, Yeah, Hall a

1317
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 6: pretty good contender.

1318
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 10: Next contender or pre tender.

1319
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: Well, you and I had this conversation live on this

1320
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: one Tiki Barber.

1321
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 5: First time and making the semi finalist list.

1322
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about him when we were down there.

1323
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 3: His numbers are better than you think.

1324
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 5: Way better.

1325
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 6: So he finishes with five straight thousand yard seasons thirteen

1326
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 6: eighty seven and eleven, twelve, sixteen, two, fifteen, eighteen and thirteen, eighteen,

1327
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 6: sixty and nineteen. I mean he had his last three

1328
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 6: years he urged ninety five yards one hundred and sixteen

1329
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 6: one hundred and forty yards per game plus the receiving.

1330
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 6: He had one two three straight seasons of more than

1331
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 6: two thousand total yards led the league in yards scrimmage.

1332
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 6: Two of his last three seasons in the league, he

1333
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 6: had back to back gears over two thousand total yards

1334
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 6: and averaging thirteen total touchdowns. That's that's pretty good. Like,

1335
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 6: I don't think here's the thing if Tiki, if you

1336
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 6: played the Ultimate Game and then you even had the

1337
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 6: second version of the Ultimate Game, I just don't think

1338
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 6: Tiki Barber is in it. No, I don't think he's

1339
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 6: near it. So I'm gonna say, really good but pretender.

1340
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: I agree, And I don't think he's even in like

1341
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 2: the Ultimate Game for his era. No is as good

1342
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: as as good as he was.

1343
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 10: No next contender or pre tender.

1344
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: And Kwon Bolden my guy, oh man.

1345
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: I want him to be. I want him to be

1346
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 4: a contender, but.

1347
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 2: I mean he's not.

1348
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 6: He's he's a full on pretender. Very good player, never

1349
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 6: three time Pro Bowler, zero time All Pro, made in

1350
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 6: big moments, awesome guy.

1351
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 2: Yep, he's just not not quite on that level.

1352
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 4: Maybe the toughest guy in the history of football.

1353
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 10: He's on a short list, all right, next contender or

1354
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 10: pre tender.

1355
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 2: Jarry Evans, the Guard.

1356
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 4: It strikes me, Saints, I want to say yes.

1357
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 2: Saints and Packers, I would say no.

1358
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 6: I would say that strikes me as a no immediately.

1359
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 6: It's cool that we're getting to people that we know.

1360
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 6: All right, hold on a second, Saints and Packers. We

1361
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 6: got six straight Pro Bowls, four straight first team All pros.

1362
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 5: Oh boy, that's a little bit better than you.

1363
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 6: Which is much better than I got a Super Bowl too,

1364
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 6: and a super Bowl. It's a conversation at guard, it's

1365
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 6: a conversation. He has also a second team Pro Bowl.

1366
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 6: Still probably pretender, but he's I think he's after Jared Allen,

1367
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 6: maybe the second best resume we've had so far.

1368
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 3: Well, he's also I mean that he's basically like where

1369
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 3: Buttonio is right now.

1370
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 6: But Tonio's five straight Pro Bowls, five straight All pros. Yes,

1371
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 6: it went similar, raight, so very similar, And I'll give

1372
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 6: him a contender. I think let's see, let's see what

1373
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 6: the voters say, but let's get himTo the next round.

1374
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 10: Next contender or pre tender.

1375
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 2: London Fletcher, Rams, Bills, Redskins.

1376
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say I think definitely contender. I know he

1377
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 6: had some let the team eat league in tackles. He

1378
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 6: had Jeez Louise fourteen straight one hundred tackle seasons to

1379
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 6: close out his career. I think, really good, great accumulation,

1380
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 6: all of that. But I don't think we're talking Hall

1381
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 6: of Fame here, and I don't think I don't think

1382
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 6: that's what we're doing here with him never an All Pro,

1383
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 6: four time pro bowler.

1384
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 3: It's kind of a Clay Matthews thing, right, We're playing

1385
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 3: for time, tons of really really good for a long time.

1386
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1387
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 3: By the way, John Carroll yep, yep, yeah, which is

1388
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 3: pretty crazy.

1389
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 5: All right?

1390
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 2: Where are we at?

1391
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 10: Uh, next contender or pre tender?

1392
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 2: Freeny contender?

1393
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 5: Book it?

1394
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 6: That feels like definite contender to me? Seven time pro bowler,

1395
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 6: three times first Team All Pro?

1396
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 2: Eh just three times? Was he hurt a lot? Lust?

1397
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 6: Three times? He only how many? He only had seven

1398
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 6: double digit sex seasons for his career four and then

1399
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 6: three more after that.

1400
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 4: H Uh.

1401
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 2: I think he's going to get in.

1402
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 6: I think he will because he's associated with Peyton and

1403
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 6: those teams. Yeah, but I think he's like Jared Allen,

1404
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 6: should be in before he's in.

1405
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 10: Yes, next contender or pre tender Antonio Gates.

1406
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 4: First block, immediate first ballot lock yep.

1407
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 10: No need to continue next, no contender or pretender.

1408
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: Eddie George love him, but feels like pretender.

1409
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,479
Speaker 6: That feels like pretender to me. Four time Pro Bowl,

1410
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 6: one time First Team All Pro, very short meteoric career.

1411
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 6: He started off with five straight thousand yard seasons. Never

1412
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 6: led the league in rushing, never let league in rushing touchdowns,

1413
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 6: career yards per carry, It's bad three point six Nope, sorry.

1414
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 10: Next contender or pre tender James Harrison.

1415
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 5: If he played US sixteen times a year, probably a

1416
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 5: first ballot.

1417
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 6: James Harrison, five time Pro Bowl, two time First Team

1418
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 6: All Pro, two time Super Bowl champion, part of some

1419
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 6: historically good Steelers defenses.

1420
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 2: Wasn'tny defensive player of the year.

1421
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 4: That's so I'm trying to get over twenty He.

1422
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 11: Was defensive player of the Year once, two time Super

1423
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 11: Bowl champ, two times Pro and let's see, he was

1424
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 11: the AP Defensive Player of the Year in two thousand

1425
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 11: and eight, fourth in the MVP voting that year.

1426
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,479
Speaker 6: He never led the league in sacks. He did the league,

1427
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 6: lead the league in force fumbles once.

1428
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 10: Very good pretender, right, next contender or pre tender.

1429
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: Rodney Harrison, Chargers paid.

1430
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it feels like to me, I want him

1431
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 5: in and I want Collinsworth to give the speed.

1432
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 2: To present him.

1433
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 5: Yep.

1434
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,479
Speaker 4: Two time Pro bowler, two time first team All Pro.

1435
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 2: That's hard, that's Pray're not going to do it.

1436
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 6: No, never, only thirty four career picks, like Justin Simmons

1437
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 6: has thirty. I know that because we just because we

1438
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 6: just did that game. That was one things. So yeah,

1439
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 6: I'm contender, all right.

1440
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 10: Next contender or pre tender Devin Hester.

1441
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, first ballot, he's in the ultimate Game. He's the

1442
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,919
Speaker 6: first person chosen to be a kick returner. He should

1443
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 6: be in the Hall of Fame.

1444
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 2: This is his third time on the ballot. Grez, he

1445
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 2: should be in the Hall of Fame. Should be in

1446
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame.

1447
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 4: Tory Holt, Tory, big game hole. This is going to

1448
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 4: be an interesting one.

1449
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 6: Seven time Pro bowler, one time All Pro, led the

1450
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 6: league in receiving twice one, two, three, four, five, six

1451
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 6: seven eight straight thousand yard season, six of them over

1452
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 6: thirteen that thirteen hundred at a time when that was

1453
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 6: not really happening. I think contender. I think contender people

1454
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 6: like receivers. He's got unbelieveable stats in terms of what

1455
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 6: he was able to do at the time that he

1456
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 6: did it.

1457
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 4: You know that wasn't.

1458
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 2: Yep, Let's keep it here because it so Andre Johnson.

1459
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 6: Next, Okay, the big dude, So let me so. Tory

1460
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 6: Holt career receptions twenty second career receiving yards is seventeenth,

1461
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 6: so that's pretty good career. He's tenth in receiving yards

1462
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 6: per game for his career. Tory hold I think certain

1463
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 6: the contender, all right, Andre Johnson, the big dude, probably

1464
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 6: a better receiver, just kind of in isolation. Seven time

1465
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 6: Pro bowler, two time All Pro LA the league, receiving

1466
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 6: twice three seasons of more than fifteen hundred and sixty

1467
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 6: nine yards. Never had a double digit touchdown season though.

1468
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 2: But never played with that offense. No, you know, I

1469
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 2: fine if.

1470
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 6: He's in, because he's a guy that I think it's

1471
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 6: very easy to project had he been in, let's say,

1472
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 6: a better system, with better quarterbacks all of that. Yeah,

1473
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 6: you know, it's easy to imagine him putting up numbers

1474
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 6: similar not the same, similar to maybe what Calvin Johnson

1475
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 6: was able to do with Matt Stafford.

1476
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 10: I agree, Next contender or pre tender, all right?

1477
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 3: I got two defensive guys. One to me, I'm shocked,

1478
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 3: as to me, feels like should have been already. Robert

1479
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 3: Mathis and Julius Peppers.

1480
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 4: So Julius Peppers to me is automatic.

1481
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 5: He's He's the first ballot guy along with Antonio Gates

1482
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 5: that made the semi finals. Okay, those are the only two.

1483
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 6: Mathis pretender, led Leagaan Sacks once nineteen and a half

1484
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 6: way late in his career. But I think he's. He

1485
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 6: and Free were both really really good. They're made I

1486
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 6: think even better by playing on the turf and by

1487
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 6: being on teams with Peyton Manning that had lots of leads. Yep,

1488
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 6: good player, Hall of very good. Julius Peppers automatic, Yeah,

1489
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 6: like he will go in and he will go in

1490
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 6: this year.

1491
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 10: Next contender or pretender.

1492
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 3: Steve Smith. I'm gonna give you three here, we got

1493
01:08:58,120 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 3: three I want to get. I'm gonna give you two receivers.

1494
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 3: Steve Smith, Hines Ward.

1495
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 4: I think probably contender, Can I mean pretender? Pretender? Right?

1496
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1497
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 6: Heinz Ward definitely not Steve Smith, five time pro bowler,

1498
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 6: two time first female Pro League in receiving, once great guy, fiery,

1499
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 6: all of that, Yes, But I think Hall of Fame.

1500
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 6: Probably contender, I mean pretender.

1501
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 10: All right, next contender or pre tender.

1502
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 3: I got two running backs here, Fred Taylor, Ricky Waters Waters. No,

1503
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 3: although he was really good for a moment with the

1504
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 3: forty nine ers, all.

1505
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 6: Right, Fred Taylor just one Pro Bowl, multiple thousand yard seasons.

1506
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 6: Unfortunately that nope. Ricky Waters is actually a surprising one

1507
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 6: in how much better his numbers are than you might think.

1508
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 6: Five time Pro bowler if he had one, two, three,

1509
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 6: four six straight thousand yard seasons, he had one, two, three, four, five,

1510
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 6: six seven eight straight with more than fifteen hundred tw yards.

1511
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 2: Okay, Is Roger Craig in the Hall of Fame?

1512
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 5: No?

1513
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 2: I don't think then then Waters can't be so.

1514
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 6: Roger Craig, four time Pro bowler, one time first team

1515
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 6: All Pro obviously was the first guy you ever to

1516
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 6: have a thousand rushing in one thousand receiving in the

1517
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 6: same season.

1518
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 5: But it's.

1519
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 6: Uns that's a problem. Yeah, yeah, both really good. Both

1520
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 6: really good.

1521
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, next contender or pre tender.

1522
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 3: All right, last offensive guy, and then we got three

1523
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 3: defensive guys. Reggie Wayne, No, I.

1524
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 6: Think he's below In my mind, he would be below

1525
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 6: both Tory Holt and Andre Johnson, six time Pro Bowl,

1526
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 6: one time All Pro lea the league receiving once kind

1527
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 6: of has that same run of thousand yard seasons and

1528
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 6: played with Peyton Manning.

1529
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 2: Yep, and sometimes opposite Marvin Harrison.

1530
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:54,520
Speaker 10: Marvin Harrison next contender or pre tender Vince.

1531
01:10:54,280 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 6: Wolfork feels like a better actual Yeah, then somebody that

1532
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,440
Speaker 6: would be a Hall of Famer.

1533
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 5: Right, I agreed?

1534
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 3: The next one to me, I don't understand how Patrick

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01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 3: Willis is not a Hall of Famer. So Patrick wi

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01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 3: he's the defensive equivalent of Terrell Davis.

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01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 2: Yes, so Patrick Willis.

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01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,919
Speaker 6: Seven and every year that he was in the league

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01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 6: until the year that you finally got hurt, it was

1540
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 6: a Pro bowler. He was a first team All Pro

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01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 6: in five of the seven and a second team All

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01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 6: Pro in the other. So every full season he was

1543
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 6: in the league was a Pro bowler and a five

1544
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 6: time first team All Pro, one time second team All Pro.

1545
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 4: Absolutely a Hall of Famer.

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01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 3: If you are putting together the defense during the time

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01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 3: with which he played, he starts at linebacker the entire time.

1548
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 2: Yes, the end, full stop.

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01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 3: Yes, in right, Yes, he's better than Urlacker, better than

1550
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 3: ur Loacker. For sure he didn't have the agent Erlacker had,

1551
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 3: but he's.

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01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 6: Better, better than er Locker. I mean, I don't even

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01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 6: know that if it would be so Erlacker was.

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01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 3: I think of like he's on the level with like

1555
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 3: Bobby Wagner. Yes, he just doesn't have the longevity, but

1556
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 3: he's got seven years of it.

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01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 5: It's not like.

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01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 6: Locker is a four time first team All Pro. Ray

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01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 6: Lewis is seven times.

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01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, what'd you say? Willis was five.

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01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 6: Five first, one second and six years only played six years.

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01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 6: Come on, nobody's had a other than Bobby Wagner and

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01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 6: ray Lewis. Nobody's had a six year stretch where they

1564
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 6: were five time first team All Pro.

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01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 5: Stop.

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01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 2: It put him in it. It's enough, Yeah, he should

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01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 2: be in. It's enough. Lastly, Darren Woodson can't be right.

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01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 4: No, very good.

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01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it doesn't feel like it at all all right.

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01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 6: Like Zach Thomas, just Zach Thomas, who just got in

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01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 6: this year with the hoff he was the other guy

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01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 6: that had kind of I think those are the two.

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01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 6: So he only had four one, two, three ft he

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01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 6: had five total first team All pros. Willis did five

1575
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 6: out of six. That's only him at linebacker him, ray

1576
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 6: Lewis and Wagner and I'm gonna look up Singletary right now,

1577
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 6: but I feel like that would maybe be the only

1578
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 6: other one that could do that. Singletary in the middle.

1579
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 6: It's Singletary was the only other one. Singletary did six straight.

1580
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 6: So it's Wagner and Singletary did six straight. Ray Lewis

1581
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 6: did five out of six, Willis died five out of

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01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 6: six automatic Patrick Willis.

1583
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 2: And it's enough. Yeah, it's absolutely enough. The Browns Daily.

1584
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 3: We'll be broadcasting live from Buffalo Wild Wings in Brooklyn

1585
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 3: next Tuesday. Just think how your view will be different

1586
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Speaker 3: a week from now.

1587
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Speaker 2: We'll do it on fifth.

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01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 3: That's true, one to three. Kevin mack is going to

1589
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1590
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1591
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Speaker 2: All right, now, let's head to the podium.

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01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,879
Speaker 3: Some highlights from coach to Fancies meeting with the media yesterday.

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01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 9: Okay, injuries, Amari like a told Jacks Raiser negative, think

1597
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 9: he'll be okay working through that this week. Jordan Elliott

1598
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 9: similar with the ankle day to day, but feel good

1599
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 9: about where he is. Miles with the shoulder is sore,

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01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 9: but feel good about where he'll be, but day to day.

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01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 9: And then Dorian, like we talked about last week, we'll

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01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 9: just continue to or last night, excuse me, we'll just

1603
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 9: continue to work through the protocol and make sure obviously

1604
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 9: you're following every step of that. With the game, you know,

1605
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 9: you watch it afterwards, and it's we just didn't do

1606
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 9: enough of those things that you have to do to

1607
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 9: win on the road. Uh, you know, way too sloppy

1608
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 9: with the football, having the ball on the ground five times,

1609
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 9: you know, turning it over like we did. Is those

1610
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 9: are giveaways, giving the game away, and we can't do that.

1611
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 9: And that's that's the things that we really have to

1612
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 9: focus on moving forward, is taking care of that rock.

1613
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:51,759
Speaker 5: Uh.

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01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 9: And then defensively, like you know, like we mentioned, they

1615
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 9: got some runs on us, which we will correct and

1616
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 9: because as you know, those are things that will keep

1617
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 9: showing up until you stop them. And we feel real

1618
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 9: good about our plan moving forward. But plenty to clean up,

1619
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 9: plenty to correct, but just you're not going to win

1620
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 9: on the road when you play like we played, which

1621
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 9: was obviously disappointing. So now the focus shifts right away

1622
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 9: to the rams and how we can correct some of

1623
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 9: these things and be better on Sunday. And with that,

1624
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:23,759
Speaker 9: I'll take any questions.

1625
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 8: Kevin, you said Miles is sore, but you feel good

1626
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 8: about where he is.

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01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 12: So the scans you had today revealed no structural issues

1628
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 12: and as long as he's comfortable playing from a pain perspective.

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01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: He should be good to go for Sunday.

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01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 13: Yes, sir, Hey Kevin, well, that's been made about the

1631
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 13: run pass imbalance yesterday. What were you seeing from the

1632
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 13: Broncos that made you kind of maybe throw the ball

1633
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 13: a little bit more and maybe surprise some people a

1634
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 13: little bit.

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01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 9: I think we go into every game, Tom and you

1637
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 9: have a plan for things that they're going to do,

1638
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 9: and then sometimes they show you things that you have

1639
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,520
Speaker 9: to adjust. We felt like we had some good opportunities

1640
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 9: there both in the run in the past game, we

1641
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 9: had some missed opportunities, unfortunately, and that's the frustrating part

1642
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 9: of we have to hit some of those opportunities again.

1643
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 9: Both in the run in the past to score more points.

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01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 14: Kevin, I know every week you guys preached that ball security,

1645
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 14: taking care of the ball. Sunday seem to have a

1646
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 14: lot of penalties. What do you do approaching that this

1647
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 14: week to try to clean that up and make sure

1648
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 14: that doesn't carry over into LA.

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01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, unfortunately a lot of those defensive penalties and they

1650
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 9: gated some good plays and that's that's the frustrating part

1651
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 9: that we have to clean up. We'll work very hard

1652
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 9: at those, the aligned off sides, those those shouldn't happen

1653
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:41,759
Speaker 9: and will be better this week.

1654
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 12: How do you solve this drop passes thing that has

1655
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 12: kind of popped up here in the last couple of weeks.

1656
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 12: And what do you think the genesis of that? Because

1657
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 12: you guys have been really good catching the football until recently.

1658
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's tous Daryl. It always comes back to technique.

1659
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 9: I don't think you can simply say to somebody, hey,

1660
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 9: catch the ball. I think you have to talk about

1661
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 9: the things that go into catching the ball, the active catching,

1662
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 9: and and there's all those coaching points. There's all those

1663
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 9: things that you know you've been taught your whole life.

1664
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 9: And then we'll continue to coach them up because those

1665
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 9: are certainly correctable.

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01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 5: Hey, Kevin, how did you think mcja okay and the

1667
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 5: other linebackers sort of filled in without Anthony on the

1668
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 5: on the field yesterday?

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01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, there were some obviously some really good moments. I

1670
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 9: thought Jeremiah in particular, was all over the field. He

1671
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 9: was very, very productive making plays sideline asideline. Obviously made

1672
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 9: a huge play for US on that fourth down knocking

1673
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 9: the ball out. So he's he has been making big

1674
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 9: plays for US all season, but but in particular, he

1675
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:42,719
Speaker 9: really stepped up yesterday.

1676
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 15: Kevin, I think Dorian has played three games, and you

1677
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 15: guys have scored two touchdowns in three games with him.

1678
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 15: Why do you feel he's capable of shouldering the burden

1679
01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 15: with such each game being so critical going forward? Why

1680
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 15: why do you trust him to steer this ship home

1681
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 15: as the starting quarterback?

1682
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1683
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 9: I would just tell you any any young player, Tony,

1684
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 9: that that you put in there, and you're continuing to

1685
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 9: coach and and bring them along. Again, disappointed that that

1686
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 9: he got hurt in yesterday's game, Disappointed that you know

1687
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 9: that play occurred, but we'll just keep bringing our young

1688
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 9: guys along.

1689
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 16: And one other question, is now that Watson is unavailable,

1690
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 16: could any of your existing quarterbacks execute a quarterback snake

1691
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 16: or do you have to rely on the tight end?

1692
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 9: All things that will work through. Again, you know that

1693
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 9: ball was on the ground. That's unfortunate. That hasn't happened

1694
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 9: this season. So we'll continue to work through.

1695
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 5: It all right, Thank you coach.

1696
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 8: You know, starting running back, Ford had only nine carries

1697
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 8: and he he was averaging over seven yards of care.

1698
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 8: Is there some opportunities where he may get more carries

1699
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 8: and you all become a more ground based team because

1700
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 8: it seems that that's the one thing that this team

1701
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 8: does well, and that's run the ball.

1702
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought, you know, Jerome gave us some really

1703
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 9: good moments in the run game in the past game.

1704
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 9: I had a couple of nice plays there in a

1705
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 9: two minute drive. We're going to count We're count on

1706
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 9: him every single week. As you know, we like our

1707
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 9: running back room and we like to share the ball

1708
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 9: for sure. And you mentioned the run defense issues. What

1709
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 9: did you think were the biggest problems that the Bronkers

1710
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 9: were able to exploit. Yeah, they did a couple of

1711
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 9: things you know that were good obviously schematically, but as

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01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 9: you know in this game, you always have counter moves

1713
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,719
Speaker 9: to those things. We got to them. We feel confident

1714
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 9: that we can play sound and it always is is.

1715
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,799
Speaker 9: It can always be from alignment, it can be from assignment,

1716
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 9: it can be technique. So those are all things that

1717
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 9: will work hard on this week.

1718
01:19:58,920 --> 01:19:59,600
Speaker 2: All right, there you go.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm gonna continue to play better or worse as

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Speaker 6: I always do. And I think that they are worse.

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Speaker 6: I think you could make the case that the forty

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Speaker 6: nine Ers are the number one team in the NFL

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Speaker 6: right now. And I'll be care of when we do

1749
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 6: guess the lines. I'll be curious. I bet that game's

1750
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 6: in Philly, isn't it.

1751
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 8: No?

1752
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 2: I think it's San Francisco, right, or maybe I'm wrong.

1753
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't care where it is. I

1754
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 4: think the Niners are.

1755
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 5: Gonna stand Beard yeah, Bishop higher, lower, just right.

1756
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 3: No, it's they're worse. They're worser than two. San Francisco

1757
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 3: should be above them. San Francisco's playing better than Philly

1758
01:21:58,640 --> 01:21:59,719
Speaker 3: right now. Philly is the king.

1759
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 5: A game is in Philly.

1760
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 3: Okay, so I I.

1761
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 4: Bet the nine.

1762
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 2: Guess the line Philly minus one and a half.

1763
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 6: I think the Niners. I think it could be Niners.

1764
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 6: Think about some of the lines they've had. I think

1765
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 6: it could be Niners. Threes, They've had monster lines.

1766
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 4: You want to count that one and guess the stats

1767
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 4: for the spreads right now? Do I get it?

1768
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 5: What'd you say?

1769
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 6: Niners minus three minus? Hit it right on ahead, let's go.

1770
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 6: Is that what it is?

1771
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 5: Yep?

1772
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 4: That surprised me.

1773
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 6: I thought two and a half made more sense, but

1774
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 6: I wanted to say three in case it was three

1775
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 6: and a half.

1776
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 5: Wow, yeah, you nope, are correct? All right?

1777
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 2: So yes, they should be below.

1778
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 3: I would have them below Kansas City too, and Kansasity's

1779
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 3: not great right now, but I'd still have them below them.

1780
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 5: Okay, Next higher four lower forty nine Ers, three Chiefs

1781
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 5: four Cowboys number five That eight and three Bishop high

1782
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 5: or lower just right for the Big d.

1783
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 3: Well like the team, the teams at five and six

1784
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 3: are mirrors like they annihilate bad teams. The Cowboys annihilate

1785
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 3: bad teams. The Dolphins annihilate bad teams like when, but

1786
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,719
Speaker 3: when they punch at their own weight class, they don't

1787
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 3: have the same type of effect in any way, shape

1788
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 3: or form. I'm fine with Dallas being five and Miami

1789
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 3: being six, but you could have swapped these and I'd

1790
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 3: be okay with that too.

1791
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: But I'm okay with Cowboys being five. So girl, So

1792
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 2: the Cowboys?

1793
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 5: What did they?

1794
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 2: So?

1795
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 6: They lost close to the Eagles Week nine, they were

1796
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 6: blasted by the Niners. Since then, they beat the Chargers, destroyed,

1797
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 6: the ramstroyed, the Giants, destroyed, the Panthers, destroyed the Commanders, Seahawks.

1798
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 6: This week Thursday Night Football then home Eagles at Bills

1799
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 6: at Dolphins home Lions.

1800
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 2: Well, there you go.

1801
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 6: The next one. We'll know that is gonna tell you

1802
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 6: a lot about what this team is. I like the

1803
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 6: Dak's playing great. I think he's got eighteen touchdowns and

1804
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,759
Speaker 6: two picks in his last six games. He's been playing

1805
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 6: phenomenal football. So I'm fine with him because their defense

1806
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 6: is a problem. Dron Bland. Bland has more touchdowns.

1807
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 2: This is what sin does.

1808
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 5: He Yeah, he's an NFL record holder now NFL record holder.

1809
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 5: But like and I don't know how easy it is

1810
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 5: to Philip Race going for Philip buster for one second

1811
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 5: for me, Well, you guys discuss looking at some of

1812
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 5: these other ones. Jacksonville's number seven, Detroit's number eight, which

1813
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 5: puts either one of those two ahead of the Dolphins

1814
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 5: and Cowboys.

1815
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 2: No, Jacksonville's uneven week to week.

1816
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:32,879
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, you keep.

1817
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 3: Wanting them to play to what I think their talent

1818
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 3: is and they can't get all the way there.

1819
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 2: So I have no problem with Jacksonville.

1820
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 3: I think I think that the drop off Obviously the

1821
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 3: top four are kind of on another level, but I

1822
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,759
Speaker 3: think the Cowboys and the Dolphins both have the talent

1823
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 3: to get into that level and beat the teams on

1824
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 3: that level.

1825
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 5: But he's got a bracketed pretty good.

1826
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know about Like to me, I think

1827
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 3: he's got this right. I think he's got Jacksonville and

1828
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 3: he's got Detroit at eight, and then that's a pretty well.

1829
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 3: Then you go bring questions, Yeah, the options there.

1830
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 6: How about the fact that Deron Bland has as many

1831
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 6: receiving touchdowns that's essentially what a pick six is as

1832
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 6: Jamar Chase.

1833
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, rose next higher or lower? All right, we just

1834
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 5: went through the top eight. It takes us to number nine.

1835
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 5: And I'm just baffled by this, and I'll just throw

1836
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 5: us in on this as well. He's got the Squealers

1837
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 5: at number nine, at seven and four. He's got us

1838
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 5: at number ten at seven and four. Uh, zigura higher lower,

1839
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 5: just right? What do you make of this? So we're

1840
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 5: at ten, Yeah, and the Squealers are at nine.

1841
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,679
Speaker 4: We're better than they are. I mean we are, We're better.

1842
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 4: We beat They're gonna.

1843
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 3: Beat us and three and is one. They're six and

1844
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 3: two in their last eight.

1845
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 6: And they're at fifteen. Yeah, they're behind the Colts, right, huh. Yeah,

1846
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 6: I think we're better than the Steelers. I think the

1847
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,560
Speaker 6: Texans are better than the Seaeler's tex and smoke the

1848
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 6: Steelers earlier this year.

1849
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've played like this is just a reliance upon

1850
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 3: the sorcery of Tomlin and the record and not watching

1851
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 3: the games.

1852
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,560
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, because they're the Steelers.

1853
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't understand that.

1854
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,560
Speaker 1: Uh next higher lower.

1855
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 5: Puckers at nine, Browns at ten. He's got the Texans

1856
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 5: at eleven, Buffalo at twelve higher lower or just right

1857
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 5: for a buffalow bo Bishop.

1858
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 2: What do we do with them? Guys?

1859
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 5: What do we do?

1860
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 6: They are a top ten team, they just don't sure

1861
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 6: it's a cute to that level on a consistent basis.

1862
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 5: I would put them ahead of Houston. I would.

1863
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1864
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 5: Can can we beat them? We sir?

1865
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure? But like, but I think they can

1866
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 2: beat Philly. Yeah, and we can beat it.

1867
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 6: So yes, they can lose to Most, phil can beat

1868
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 6: Most in Philly.

1869
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 5: Yes, so they should probably be nine.

1870
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 3: I don't know what to do. I don't know what

1871
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 3: to make of them. That's why I said, like, I

1872
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 3: think this week I got them right on the scores.

1873
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 3: Did I finally get them right? I did, okay, But

1874
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 3: like every week with Buffalo, I don't have a clue

1875
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 3: what they're going to do. Their lines are crazy, the

1876
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 3: results are crazy. They got these they got this loss

1877
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 3: to the Jets in the opener.

1878
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 2: Then they've got slump city games.

1879
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 3: They slumped Miami forty eight to twenty yep, and then

1880
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 3: they've got weird losses.

1881
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 2: Like they lost to New England. Guys.

1882
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, on the twenty second of October, they lost to

1883
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 3: New England twenty nine. They lost to well, that's Borough

1884
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 3: at least. Then they lost to the Broncos. I don't

1885
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 3: know what the hell they are. I really don't say.

1886
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:40,440
Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of them.

1887
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:47,640
Speaker 5: Next higher Coore, Lower Colts thirteen, Seahawks fourteen. Can we

1888
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 5: all agree the Broncos should be ahead of all of

1889
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 5: these teams? Yes, they're at number fifteen.

1890
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 2: They went six and two in their last eight. Come

1891
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 2: on higher for them, for sure.

1892
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 5: Bat Jobsigertz radio show. Don't nod your head better? Next

1893
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 5: you looked at me? Lower Vikings are sixteen. I think

1894
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 5: they should be well, I don't know right at this point.

1895
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 5: Now you're in just junk yep, exactly, I don't They

1896
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 5: still had the Bengals ranked twenty, yet.

1897
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 4: The Packers are better than eighteenth.

1898
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 2: They are.

1899
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 3: Let me say, you guys are out in La La Land.

1900
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,879
Speaker 3: What is the Is anyone talking about the Chargers?

1901
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 5: No?

1902
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 4: No, I haven't heard one thing.

1903
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 6: Like I was introduced to a bunch of people, as

1904
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 6: you know, being with the Cleveland Browns yesterday. Not one

1905
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 6: local person had anything to say about the Chargers or Rams,

1906
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 6: and I asked if they were fans of either, and they're.

1907
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 2: Just like, yeah, no, they're here.

1908
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 5: No one cares.

1909
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 2: No, why would they. It's San Diego's team.

1910
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 3: I mean, they've been there six years and they do

1911
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 3: not care. I guess the reason I'm asking was is

1912
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 3: if that situation we're playing out in a market that

1913
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 3: was dialed in and Brandon Saley still being employed would

1914
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 3: be impossib impossible.

1915
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, no way.

1916
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 3: If they were like in this market or Pittsburgh or

1917
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 3: Philly or New York or Buffalo.

1918
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 2: Or New England, no chance, no no way.

1919
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 5: Gone gone all right, real quick, because we have thirty

1920
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 5: seconds here. His last four teams bottom four, Washington twenty nine,

1921
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 5: Arizona thirty, Patriots thirty one, Panthers thirty two.

1922
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 2: Arizona should go up because of Kyler.

1923
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 5: The Lions should be last.

1924
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:32,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, the last two or the last two.

1925
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 3: It's the Patriots and Panthers are the two worst teams.

1926
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,679
Speaker 4: I think the Titans are pretty bad right now too,

1927
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 4: Like they.

1928
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 3: They just they they're okay, they almost got the Steelers

1929
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 3: a couple. They're they're not good at their bottom, but

1930
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 3: they're not on the level of the Patriots and Panthers.

1931
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another level, a whole other level.

1932
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 5: We just signed John Kelly to the practice squad, so.

1933
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,080
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Speaker 2: nice meal?

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01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:31,759
Speaker 2: Paint a picture?

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01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 4: I don't know the answer is unknown.

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01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 6: Maybe Malibu. The problem is we don't have. It's not

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01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 6: like we're out here with a rental car. We don't have.

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01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 6: We don't have California doesn't have uber it does you know?

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01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 6: It's like David have Uber out there? Okay, what's your guest?

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01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 6: Where from where we are to call to Malibu?

1950
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,719
Speaker 2: To Malibu? What's your Uber price? Price?

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01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 4: And time?

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01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 3: I think your time is going to be forty five

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01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 3: minutes to an hour fifteen. I'm gonna give a wide

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01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 3: range on that because I don't.

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01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 2: Know how you travel well.

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01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 6: This says currently right now forty five minutes.

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01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we gotta go. I'm gonna say your

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01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:12,520
Speaker 2: price is one hundred and thirty dollars.

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01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 6: Round trip would be about seventy Next level is next

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