1 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Point Game. I'm your host CJ. Toldano, 2 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: and I'm joined as always with my co host Isaiah Thomas. 3 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: I T how you feeling. 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 3: Today, Man, I'm good, Bro, how are you? 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good. 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: You know, it feels a little bit slow in the 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: league right now, but you know, whenever it does start 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: to feel like that, some big stories start happening, we 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: start hearing some rumors. So we're gonna cover that of 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: course today, because we're of course gonna talk Giannest, We're 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: gonna talk to the NBA Cup, and we're also gonna 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: revisit your segment no days off. But first, man, I 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: was just on social, you know, over the weekend, and 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: it felt like a very big weekend for you. So 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: I was hoping just to hear from you, like, yeah, 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: what was going on? Because we talked about last last episode, 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: the premiere of your docu short Go Forward happened over 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: in Idaho, So tell us about that that experience. 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: The experience was amazing. 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 4: That was my first time being at a film festival, 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 4: so I was out of my space, out of my 22 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 4: element a little bit, but it was super dope to 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 4: be able to meet so many filmmakers, directors, producers, you know, 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 4: everything in that space and for us to show our 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 4: short dock go forward, it was amazing. Like the feedback 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 4: was like it put a smile on my face just 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 4: because and my dad. My dad came too, so that 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 4: was big. That was the first time he ever seen it, 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: even though like he had some interviews in it, so 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 4: it was touching for him, But it touched everybody that 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 4: put their eyes on it, Like it was. I'm getting 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 4: feedback you know since since that night from everybody that 33 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: was there. So I can't wait for you know, the 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 4: world to see it because it's super impactful. 35 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: It's super inspiring. 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 4: Obviously, it's something like I talked about earlier with grief. 37 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 4: That's something you know, everybody is familiar with. You know, 38 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 4: one thing we got all got in common is somebody 39 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 4: you're going through grief or some type of adversity. So 40 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: it's one of them short dogs to where like itah 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: lift you up a little bit, like it'll make you 42 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 4: it's an emotional roller coaster. But we got a lot 43 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: of great feedback and it's only going to be bigger 44 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 4: and better down the line. 45 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, was it at all like hooping where you know, 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: the first time, maybe you want a game where you 47 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: kind of hit flow state or whatever, like seeing people 48 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: because you know, when you're making these these films, you're 49 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: you're shooting at you're you know, you're the main main character. 50 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: You're sitting in the editing booth, you're watching it with 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of you know, your trusted collaborators. 52 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: But now you're showing it to the people. 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: So, like, what was that feeling seeing everyone react to 54 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: it for the first time. 55 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 4: It was emotional, Honestly it was because it's so touching. 56 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 4: Like obviously it happened to me, my little sister, my family, 57 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 4: so it's emotional. But like like I said, it was 58 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: the emotional roller coaster. You get people smiling and laughing 59 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 4: and seeing memories, and then you get people crying and 60 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: and and needn't tissue the whole time because it's that deep. 61 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: But then towards the end you got people smiling again 62 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 4: because it's super in inspiring. And we had a few 63 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 4: people raise their hand after when we had some q 64 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 4: and a's about things that just it really touched them, 65 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 4: like they didn't know what they were coming to see. 66 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 4: That's why the film festivals are so dope because a 67 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 4: lot of people who participate in those you don't know 68 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 4: what movie you're going to watch, you don't know what 69 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: short doc you're going to watch. So when you see 70 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: something out of the ordinary that you didn't eve even expect, 71 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 4: which a lot of people did, it was it was 72 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 4: super dope. And like I said, it was it was 73 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 4: cool to see my dad shower with some love over 74 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 4: you know, a tragic situation. But to see him smile 75 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 4: as much as he did when people was coming up 76 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: to him, you know, talking to him about just his 77 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 4: strength and his you know, inspiration and moving forward. It 78 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: was everything. So that was that was the That was 79 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 4: the best part of the weekend. And just seeing my 80 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: dad shower with a little bit of love and seeing 81 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: him smiling and be in a good space. 82 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: I love that everyone go check out, go for when 83 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: you get an opportunity. I'm excited. 84 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: I want to see in the theater setting now after 85 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: a hntle about it. Another thing that happens since we 86 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: last recorded, And I didn't even see this because you 87 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: posted it. I saw this because I follow all these 88 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: basketball aggregator accounts. But your son made his freshman debut 89 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: from if I'm not. 90 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: Mistaken, right, Yeah, And. 91 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so here's from a fan standpoint, here's what I 92 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: what I The experience that I love when I see 93 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: this for the first time is they go, oh, the 94 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: son of whatever you know star and then you see 95 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: their game and it's it's like watching you all over. 96 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: You see the stuff that he picked up, like it 97 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: was like watching watching you again, but like walk us 98 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: through that. You know, I'm a father too, so I 99 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: can't even imagine that feeling. So tell us all about that. 100 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: You've been watching him and helping them grow as a player, 101 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: and now you get to see him put it all 102 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: to work. 103 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 4: So my oldest son, James, is fifteen. He's a freshman 104 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: at Ai Wright High School in Tacoma. He had his 105 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 4: first high school game and it's crazy because, like that 106 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 4: was one of my proud dad moments, just seeing him 107 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 4: in the starting lineup, get his name called. That's the 108 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 4: first time he's probably been in a starting lineup situation 109 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 4: where they got an announcer and things like that. And 110 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: to see him have a good game and most importantly 111 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 4: his team win. Like he had twenty six points, eight assists, 112 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 4: three rebounds, two steals like and he missed three or 113 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: four free throws, so he didn't have a perfect game. 114 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: But it was amazing to just sit back and see 115 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: him be able to. 116 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: Experience that because I remember my first high school game 117 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: and it's crazy because my first high school game, I 118 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: had twenty six points as well, So I had a 119 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 4: bet with him, like, I know you're not gonna be 120 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 4: able to pass that, and the only reason why he 121 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 4: did it because he missed three free throws so he 122 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 4: would have had twenty nine. But it was amazing, man, 123 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 4: I all my family could do. My dad, my wife, 124 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: his siblings obviously, is just smiled because it was a 125 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 4: big moment for all of us. 126 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: Like it was cool. 127 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 4: So I was shout out to big game James, James 128 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 4: the Great having a successful high school debut. 129 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 3: But you know, I was. 130 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: A proud dad, But the competitor in me is like, 131 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: it's onto the next We gotta be bigger and better, 132 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: we gotta this is expected. So it was a super 133 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 4: cool moment being a dad, but also for our family 134 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: just seeing him be able to be in high school 135 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: and be on his own. 136 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: Man, that's always wondering if that you said, the competitor 137 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: and you were you like taking notes at all where 138 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: you guys break down the game, watching films. 139 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: Look, we do, we do it all. 140 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: I got notes on my phone throughout the game last night. 141 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: We just watched the first two games because they played 142 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: a game after that too. 143 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: So they won. 144 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 4: We watched both games, all games, every possession. He's in 145 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 4: both sides of the floor. Just trying to be that 146 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 4: coach for him as well, so like trying to put 147 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: him in allow him to see things he might not 148 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: see while he's playing, because I always tell him watching 149 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: films the answers to the test and if you start 150 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: watch film at this age, like it's only going to 151 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 4: become a habit and it's only going to make you 152 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 4: better down the road. 153 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: So he didn't like some of the things. 154 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: I was saying, but you know, constructive criticism at his 155 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: at his finest. 156 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's got to be awesome to see. I 157 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: was watching JJ Crawford's highlights were coming out too. 158 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: It's just like we talked. 159 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: We've talked about it so many times of like you guys, 160 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: we were mentored, you know by some of the grades 161 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: and now your own kids, you know, are already out there. 162 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: It's it's awesome. 163 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: It's just kind of the tradition continues, and I think 164 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: NBA fans, basketball fans in general are like, oh, you 165 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: got to look out for that kid like their dad 166 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: is is so and so, And it's honestly just yeah, 167 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: JJ too. 168 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: His handle is. 169 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 4: You see his bounce to it, It's like he looks 170 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: just like his dad. But it's shout out to Jamal, 171 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 4: Shout out to jj Man. JJ had a hell of 172 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 4: a high school debut one of the top teams in 173 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 4: the country at Rainer Beach High School. So shout out 174 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 4: to my bro Jamal and my my young nephew, JJ Man. 175 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: The sky's the limit for these kids. 176 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: I'm coming up there. I got to watch some of 177 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: these games live. 178 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: Oh you got to it's live. It's live too. 179 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, let's go into the league. So were we 180 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier before. A big name is potentially in on 181 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: the trade block. Janni Santacumpo, a guy who I feel 182 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: like a few years ago seemed untouchable. 183 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: They had won the championship. 184 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: They've gone through the last couple of seasons some rough 185 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: years after winning the championship to a couple of coaching 186 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: changes and and you know they they kind of exited 187 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: the Dame Lillard plan here, and you know, Joannis got 188 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: hurt the other night, left the game with right calf strain. 189 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: I think he's out for about four weeks. And the 190 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: story leaked out that they're actually him and his agent 191 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: are going to discuss with the Bucks his future. So 192 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: I guess, in general, how realistic do you think that 193 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: we could see Jannis traded in on another team this season? 194 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: That quick? 195 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, there's not not not saying. I don't know 196 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 4: if it would be DCS, I'm not sure, but to 197 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 4: have that dialogue and it's only the beginning of December, 198 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 4: for a guy of that caliber, something is true behind that. 199 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 4: So I don't see him being in the Milwaukee Bucks 200 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 4: uniform for much longer because one their roster isn't constructed 201 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 4: to compete for a championship, as we've seen at the 202 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 4: start of this year. I honestly don't think they're good 203 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 4: enough right now. And for a guy like that who's 204 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 4: been so successful obviously he's won a championship multiple MVPs. 205 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 4: When you get to become that age, you kind of 206 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 4: don't want to waste any more years. You want to 207 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 4: be put in position to where you got a chance 208 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: to win a championship each and every year. And I 209 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 4: honestly believe like Milwaukee's window might be closing, or it 210 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 4: might have already closed. 211 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: In terms of competing for a championship. 212 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 4: Obviously after losing Drew Holliday, then Damian Lillard played a 213 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 4: year or two in Milwaukee and then didn't you know, 214 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: get that much success as they thought they would, And 215 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 4: then for Giannest to even you know, slip up and 216 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 4: get injured the other night, like it's it's it's a 217 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 4: tough go around. I think I think he's gonna weigh 218 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 4: his options and see where, you know, the best, most 219 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 4: realistic place he can go. But I think his time 220 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: is coming to an end in Milwaukee. And and like 221 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 4: you said, you would never have thought he would leave 222 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 4: Milwaukee just just because it seemed like he was he 223 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 4: would be a lifer. And obviously we could be wrong, 224 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 4: but I think I think it might be done with 225 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 4: with the Milwaukee Bucks and Giannis. 226 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: It's so fascinating, you know, you win a championship and 227 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: the expectation is you got to keep winning more. 228 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: Right like we saw coach Budd get Get let go. 229 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: They brought an Adrian Griffin, they fired him despite them 230 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: having a dese pretty decent record, you know, and then 231 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: they get they went out and got Dame. That didn't 232 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, Dame didn't. Dame got hurt. You know, it's 233 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: not that it didn't work, it's just he got hurt. 234 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: And I feel like they've tried so many things in 235 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: this small window that they're just calling it. You know, 236 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: they're kind of call and not you know, so, I 237 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: mean probably getting frustrated. 238 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: Too, exactly. That's that's the most important thing right there. 239 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 4: He's getting frustrated. And then he has nobody, no disrespect 240 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 4: to any other players on his team. They're obviously NBA 241 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 4: players are good, but he has nobody he can look 242 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 4: down on that roster and honestly say that can compete 243 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: for a championship today. And that's the tough part, especially 244 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 4: when you're losing. You know, all those things come into 245 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 4: play in terms of getting traded, figuring things out where 246 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 4: you're going to go next. When you're winning, it takes 247 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: care of all of that. And obviously they're not winning 248 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 4: right now, so it's just a tough situation to be in. 249 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 4: I think he got a lot of love for Milwaukee. 250 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 4: It just might be time to move forward. 251 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So where do you think he's going? 252 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 3: Who wants them? 253 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: Who can make the moves? 254 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 4: I mean, everybody wants them. But he's going to New 255 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: York for sure. He's going to a big market. 256 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 257 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to go to La or 258 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: anywhere on the West where, which I mean, if that's 259 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 4: an opportunity, you might see him in La La Lamb. 260 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 3: But New York. I think that. 261 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 4: Would be an ideal situation for him. Like I just big, 262 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 4: the big Apple. 263 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: But they got to give up a big one of 264 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: these big guys like and are willing. 265 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: To give you gotta give up Cat. 266 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so a smart move. 267 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: And it's it's crazy that I'm even asking this, but like, 268 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: you make it to the Eastern Conference finals. 269 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: You know the Pacers are out. 270 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 3: Do this. Let's say this, would you make that move? Yeah? 271 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: I guess it's like yeah, I mean you only there's 272 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: only one shot at Yannis that might be right now. 273 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: That's like like obviously, all due respect the Cat or 274 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: whoever will be in that trade. But it's like this 275 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 4: is the window. You talked about it a minute ago. 276 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 4: They it's only a small window to really win a championship. 277 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 4: So like even if if New York didn't make that 278 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 4: trade and they go with this team and they don't 279 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 4: get past the Eastern Conference finals, they're in the office 280 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: looking like we got we might have to make a move. 281 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 4: And that's back to back years of being successful. Like 282 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 4: so the window of winning the championship is maybe two 283 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: to three years, and then you got to kind of 284 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 4: look on and look what's next and what the possibilities 285 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 4: can So obviously just throwing that out there, I don't 286 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: think that with trade Jayalen Brunson, but you know, anything's 287 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: on the line when like Luca got traded, so nothing 288 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 4: like everything's you know, nothing is off limits. 289 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: That's crazy after the Luca thing, like anyone can go, 290 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: anyone can go. 291 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 4: It's from here on out, anyone can go at any time. 292 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: I do think, you know, Janni says he's still incredible, 293 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: but he is an older player, and we've honestly seen 294 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: the last couple of years young guys and and you know, 295 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: these solid role players are are almost you know, winning 296 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: the championships. So like I guess the question is and 297 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: I and I can even you know, say some scenarios here, 298 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: but like. 299 00:13:58,240 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: How much is too much for Yon? 300 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: So like in the Rockets case, you know, where they've 301 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: made some great movies over the last couple of years. 302 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: You know they can contend, Like would you do like 303 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: an Alprin Sangoon and a Fred van Vliet who is 304 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: hurt and then a first round pick for Yannis? 305 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: See, that's tough. You probably wouldn't because that Goon is 306 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 4: so young. Yeah, so you got to put that into 307 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 4: consideration too. Obviously it sounds good, it looks good, but 308 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: I don't think Houston is like, because it does that, 309 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, does that guarantee you 310 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: a championship? So unless it guarantees you something, I don't 311 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: think you're going to give up, you know, a younger 312 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 4: player that's a star right now to get Yannis and 313 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 4: not guarantee you going to the finals. So it's hard, 314 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: Like I'm not no front office god guy, but I'm 315 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 4: thinking that's how they're thinking. 316 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well for my Lakers, you know, because everyone's this season, 317 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: everyone's like Reaves untouchable now. But even though he was 318 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: constantly being thrown in trade trade Tarz last couple of years, 319 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, Austin and. 320 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: Ruey, you know, the to the Bucks. 321 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: The Bucks get some picks or whatever, and the Lakers 322 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: don't have that many picks anymore. But would you do 323 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: something like that where we've seen We've seen Reeves and 324 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: Ruey in the in the postseason. They got to the 325 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: Western Commerce Finals once, but they didn't last year. Like, 326 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: do you do a Yannis have a Yannis Lebron and Luca. 327 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 4: Austin Reeves, You're out of here, bro Ruey, that's my 328 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 4: rooking Washington Wizards, You're out of here. 329 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: You're out of here. 330 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 4: Like if that, if that scenario came up, do I 331 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 4: think the Lakers would do it? 332 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: I I'm not sure. 333 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 4: If I'm in the front office, I might Like that's 334 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 4: that's one that is going to get you a little 335 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 4: closer right now. Like obviously, Reeves's a little younger, Ruey's 336 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 4: younger as well. But if I'm trying to win a 337 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: championship within the next year or two, that's getting me closer. 338 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: Off off top, Okay, one more, one more West West 339 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: Coast scenario. 340 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: Here's here. 341 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: This one's interesting because we talked about Yannis to the Warriors. 342 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: So here's a trade package for the Warriors with Sin 343 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: Draymond Green, Jonathan Kaminga, Buddy Healed a twenty six, twenty eight, 344 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: and thirty first round pick, and you get Yannis and 345 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: also don't forget if you get Yannest, he also get Fanasis. 346 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, he gotta come, he gotta go. It's 347 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: definitely slide. 348 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: Would you would you give a Draymond and Kaminga and 349 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: Buddy Heal? 350 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 4: I would do that because Draymond's towards the end of 351 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 4: his career, Kaminga is the important piece. Milwaukee will be 352 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 4: in rebuild mode, so they can kind of build around 353 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 4: a young star or potential star. There's a few draft 354 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: picks in there. And then did you name one other 355 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 4: buddy by Shooter? You can always you can always go 356 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: with a Shooter and then but with the Warriors, it's 357 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 4: like when you make that trade, you guys gotta win today, 358 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,119 Speaker 4: Like you guys gotta. 359 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: Win right now for it to make sense. 360 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 4: You guys gotta win this year or either next year 361 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: and then figure that thing out. So it's tough because 362 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 4: as it puts your future in jeopardy of being good 363 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 4: in your future. But like the NBA is all about 364 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 4: what have you done lately. They don't really care about 365 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 4: the future like that exactly. 366 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: And you know, honestly, with we talked about at a 367 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: bunch okayc in the season they're having, it's just like 368 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: people are going to start making some rash decisions. 369 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 3: You're going to cause it's like, can we keep up 370 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: with oka See? 371 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 2: Yeah? 372 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 4: So you know, the NBA is all about the copycat league. 373 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 4: Everybody's going to try to mimic what Okac has. So 374 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: that's the direction, especially if Okay See wins it again 375 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 4: this year. The direction that the NBA would be the 376 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 4: style of players they have, the style of play that 377 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 4: they have, and then you got to adjust to that. 378 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 4: That's how it was with the Warriors in the two 379 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 4: thousand and you know, fifteen on, everybody was trying to 380 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 4: find everybody was trying to run their offense. Everybody was 381 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 4: trying to find shooters like them, and you just couldn't 382 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 4: because you're not. You'll find a shooter, but he's not 383 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 4: clearly as good as you know, Klay Thompson and Steph Curry. 384 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 4: And then when they added Kevin Durant, it was it 385 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 4: was correct. 386 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: They corrected it. 387 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: It was like, oh, now, y'all are cheating. It was 388 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: even fun. No more. 389 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: All right, on that note, we're gonna go to break 390 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 2: and we'll come back. We're talk at NBA Cup. All right, 391 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: we're back on point game. 392 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the NBA Cup just overall it. 393 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, we're about three years into it. 394 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: Do you feel like this was a good decision? 395 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: Is it working? 396 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: Are you even as like a fan? Do you think 397 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: this is helping out the league and people being more 398 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: attentive during the regular season. 399 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's a good thing. I think it's it's 400 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 4: been successful. I think it puts, you know, money in 401 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 4: guys pockets. Obviously, it makes it a little more competitive 402 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 4: when there's some money on the line. But I think 403 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 4: it's a good thing for the fans. It's something you 404 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 4: can you know they're there. Are they putting banners up? 405 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 4: Aren't they putting banners up for the couch? 406 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: Well, and so I remember when the Lakers won it 407 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: their first year, people. 408 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: Are like, don't put that banner up. 409 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 4: That's yeah, but look if a team like Detroit wins it, 410 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 4: or you know somebody that don't get banners like that, 411 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: I'm putting that up in the this facility at. 412 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: Least, I think the banners the check. 413 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 3: The check is what the check is. What they're playing 414 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: for first and foremost. 415 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing is like the Vets, even though 416 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: they that check doesn't you know, with some of their contracts, 417 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean much. 418 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 4: You got to do it for the go is That's 419 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. You do it for the guys. It's 420 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 4: on two ways. You do it for the younger guys. 421 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 4: You also which is dope. That happens even in the playoffs. 422 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 4: When you go further in the playoffs, obviously you get 423 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 4: playoff checks and bonuses. But it goes to like the 424 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: support staff throughout the organization like that, that's always important 425 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 4: as well. When there's incentives on these things, a lot 426 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 4: of the guys, especially the older guys, is given a 427 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 4: little breakdown to the trainer is given a little breakdown 428 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 4: to somebody that works in the front office. So like, 429 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: these things are a valuable piece in you know, organizations 430 00:19:58,560 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 4: throughout the year as well. 431 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: So shout out to you know, the support staff. 432 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 4: In each organization, man, because you know without them, you know, 433 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 4: things wouldn't flow as easy as it does. 434 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: All I got to say, if like my my yearly 435 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 1: bonus relied on Lebron or SGA. 436 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: I'd be happy about that, you know. 437 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: I'd be good. But then if your yearly bonus relied 438 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: on somebody else, we won't even man. You know, there's 439 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 3: a few teams you're like, we got no chance. This 440 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: ain't it. 441 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: The other aspect that they did is these courts, which 442 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: we won't get in trouble here, but some of these 443 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: courts they have taken some chances and they saw some 444 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: issues with They're like highlight colors. Some players are slipping 445 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: on the paint, Like what do you think about that? 446 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 2: That feature? 447 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 3: They're just doing too much right now. 448 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 4: I know, like I know, like when you're turning on TV, 449 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 4: if you see something like that, you might stop and 450 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 4: watch it. I think that's why they're doing it. But 451 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 4: they're doing they're doing a lot with the court. That's 452 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 4: one thing. 453 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 3: Like the Cup. 454 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 4: I like the idea about it and everything behind it. 455 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 4: The courts is nasty. The courts is bad. We got 456 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 4: to change that, Oudam silver it is. 457 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: I remember I was a big proponent anyone who falls 458 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: my NBA Twitter. I was like, I want the Larry 459 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: O'Brian trophy back on the finals court, you know, and 460 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: then they're like, oh, we can't do it because you know, 461 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: the paint mess things up. But then they would do 462 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: the season tournament. 463 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: Trophy. I'm big. I'm big on the trophy being in 464 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: the finals too. That was That was classic, bro. 465 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 2: That's classic, right, Like it makes me feel like you're 466 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: watching the most. 467 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: Important being season man for real. 468 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: But I think they're fixing that. But anyways, back to 469 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: the Cup. All right, so let's walk through some of 470 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: these matchups. I know you have a favorite, but let's 471 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: talk about maybe your favorite and who you think might 472 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: be a dark horse in the in the I mean 473 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: in the tournament coming up. So in the quarter finals, 474 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: we got okay, see Suns, Lakers, Spurs, Magic, Heat, Raptors, Knicks. 475 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: So let's talk about who do you think is going 476 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: to take it all? And then who could be your 477 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: dark horse? 478 00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 3: I got okay, see teking it. 479 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 4: I know that's an easy pick, but they're definitely the 480 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 4: best team in the league. They still got a lot 481 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 4: of young guys that are, you know, chasing some bread too, 482 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 4: so you always got to think about that as well. 483 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 4: If it means something to a team. 484 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: I got them winning it. 485 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 4: If Winby was If Winby was healthy, the Spurs would 486 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 4: be my dark horse. 487 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: But I might go with who was the other two 488 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 3: on the other side. 489 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, Magic Heat and Raptors Knicks. 490 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: That's that's tough right there. I don't know. 491 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 4: I would say, you're I would go in New York 492 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: on the other side. I got okay seeing New York 493 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 4: in there, and then they can battle. They can battle 494 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 4: it out because of. 495 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: The issue I had with March. 496 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: Madness is so fun because it's one game elimination, and 497 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: I you know, I feel like when I was growing up, 498 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: everyone's like, what if the playoff NBA playoffs for one 499 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: game elimination? Like this isn't crazy, you know, but this 500 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: is like the closest we're gonna get to it. 501 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 2: So it is it? 502 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: Well, okase he's been so dominant. All takes is on 503 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: any given night in this case. 504 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 4: No who's the best team on that night. That's why 505 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: it makes it more exciting. So yeah, I got okay. See, 506 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 4: but I'm a basketball here. 507 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: I know. 508 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 4: Anything can happen when it's just one game. It could 509 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 4: be somebody's career night. 510 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: You ever know, any any danger do you think? 511 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: And and these guys winning a bunch of money and 512 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: then walking out and it's the casinos in Vegas. 513 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 4: Oh it's going down. I'm telling I'm telling you right now. 514 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 4: So that's not unless they leave right after the game. 515 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they going, They're gonna be on the Blackjack, 516 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 4: They're gonna be they're gonna be doing all that for sure, 517 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 4: unless they're leaving. A smart team will have their guys 518 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 4: leaving directly after the game. 519 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 2: You get on the plane, get out of there. 520 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 4: Uh nah, because it's gonna be some trouble or that 521 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: check is gonna go somewhere else. 522 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: Well do you think you know? 523 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: Because they keep I feel like they keep hinting that 524 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: Vegas might get a team, and this might have been 525 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: like sort of like teasing that. Do you think it's 526 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: a good idea even just like looking at all the 527 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: other pro teams. 528 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: That have gone to Vegas? 529 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: You know, we got the Athletics going to the Raiders 530 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: are there now and it's still kind of an experiment phase. 531 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: You think it's good if the NBA expands to Vegas. 532 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, first they got to expand the Seattle, So shout 533 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 4: out to the Sonics, we need them back. 534 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, Vegas would be good. I think. I don't 535 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 3: think it would be a bad thing for the home team. 536 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 4: Like you you are where you live, Like if you 537 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 4: live in Vegas, you're not going to the casino, You're 538 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: not doing. 539 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 3: All that all the time. 540 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the role teams that are coming in that 541 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 4: are coming to Vegas and going to have a good time. 542 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 4: So I do think Vegas needs a team. We've seen 543 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 4: with the other sports they've been successful, like hockey I 544 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 4: think won their first year they were there. 545 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: Football is doing. 546 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 4: I don't know about the Raiders, but as baseball gets 547 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 4: there as well. 548 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 3: You got the w NBA. 549 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 4: Shout out to the w NBA who's won a few 550 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 4: championship Dona Las Vegas exactly. So I think it's a 551 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 4: good thing if the NBA goes to Vegas. 552 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: It just would be a tough little situation for the 553 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: role teams for sure. 554 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 1: I'm going to get killed for saying this because, uh, 555 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, and a few years ago people are like, oh, 556 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: the Clippers, if they removed, they got to go up 557 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: to Seattle. 558 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 2: I think the Clippers should go to Vegas. I think 559 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 2: in the last few. 560 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: Years with everything going on, and I feel like we've 561 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: seen Clippers I saw Clippers fan the other day die. 562 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: Our Clippers fans say he's done with the franchise, he's 563 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: gonna become. 564 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 3: I've seen that. 565 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 4: If I'm a Clipper fan, I'm doing that too. Though 566 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 4: they're disappointing. I'm sorry, and they. 567 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: Say no clickbait or nothing. 568 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 4: No, highly disappointed, disappointing. And then on top of what 569 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 4: they did, the CP three is like, come on. 570 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: Man, we called it here, we called it. 571 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: We did, we did, we did? We did? No, we did, 572 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 3: we did? 573 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 2: So what okay? 574 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: Segue into that what happens to CP? And I don't 575 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: care disregard any of what really happened there they said, 576 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: I think just even I guess recap it. They said 577 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: that they didn't like CP's leadership, which is crazy because 578 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: we've seen how impactful positively CEP's leadership has been through 579 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: other teams. So like what, I guess, Yeah, what was 580 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: your reaction in seeing that? Literally hours after we were 581 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: talking about it on the pod last week? 582 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: Man, it was crazy, but I mean you started to 583 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 4: hear little things like just how they were treating him. 584 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 4: Obviously CP three is a Hall of first Ballot, Hall 585 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 4: of Famer. Uh, he's a leader first and foremost whole 586 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 4: guys accountable, and it just sounds like it was opposite 587 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 4: of what they wanted. And maybe his voice was too 588 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 4: strong in the locker room, but they knew that before 589 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 4: they signed them how strong of a voice he has. 590 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 3: So it's a tough situation. 591 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 4: Obviously, I'm not in those locker rooms, so I don't 592 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 4: know exactly what happened. 593 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 3: But you don't. You don't. 594 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 4: You don't do that, no matter how bad it is, Like, 595 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 4: you know, you figure that out, especially for a guy 596 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 4: that signed there to sign off his career and go 597 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 4: out on a great note and the way he should. 598 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 4: I think you figure that out behind closed doors and 599 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 4: and you just ride with that the rest of the season. 600 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 3: So it's crazy. 601 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: We spoke about that before it happened, but it's definitely 602 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 4: not crazy it happened that. 603 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: No, it's because that's the one thing is like, also 604 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: from a PR standpoint, every player who ever played with CP, 605 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: we have Blake Griffin, who you know, went through some 606 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: similar stuff over there. It's like the Clippers aren't helping 607 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: themselves out. You know, everyone came out and was like, 608 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: how can you do CP? Like this waving during his 609 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: farewell tour. 610 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 4: So even the players coming out like Kawhi and James 611 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 4: Harden like I ain't know nothing about this, like I didn't, 612 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 4: So it's it's just a lot going on over there. 613 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously we don't know about but. 614 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 4: It's it's it's it's within that locker room that has 615 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 4: to get fixed or this is gonna be a wastive 616 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 4: a season. 617 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 2: Do you think a team picks up CP. 618 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 3: I hope a team picks him up. I don't know 619 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 3: if they will. 620 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 4: It got to be a situation to where, you know, 621 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: they they want him to receive his flowers for his 622 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 4: last year, obviously, but I hope a team does. Maybe 623 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 4: a team like Charlotte does, just because he's from there. 624 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like they they've talked about LaMelo 625 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: needing some maturity, you know, and some mentorship over there. 626 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: That'd be super interesting. 627 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 4: So so you never know, I hope he gets to, 628 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 4: you know, right out on the sunset, you know, on 629 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 4: his own, as he should with being who he is. 630 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 3: But I mean, the NBA is is tough sometimes. 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We're gonna run back again called No Days Off, 656 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: where it is gonna break down a couple of players 657 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: that he feels like deserve the love, who aren't getting 658 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: a TV shine, aren't you know? In the Talking Heads rundown? 659 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: And so we're gonna do that here on Point Game. 660 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: It is gonna show some love. So it Who do 661 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: you got for our No Days Off nomination? 662 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: This week? 663 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 4: No Days Off nomination, We're gonna have two. We're gonna 664 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 4: we usually do one, We're gonna have two this this week. 665 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 4: I got to give a big shout out to Michael 666 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 4: Porter Junior, my guy over there with the Brooklyn Nets 667 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 4: having a hell of a season. I mean his team's not, 668 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 4: but individually he's having a hell of a season. 669 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 3: I think he's in. 670 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 4: The last three or four games thirty pieces. So shout 671 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 4: out to you, MPJ. I know you've been ready for 672 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 4: these moments. I know you've been been working for these moments. 673 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 4: You know, to have a team of your own and 674 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 4: be able to beat a focal point. So shout out 675 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 4: to you putting up big numbers keep doing it, and 676 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 4: then I'm gonna have to give a shout out one 677 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 4: b to the guy over there on the Golden State Warriors, 678 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 4: Pat Spencer. Shout out to you man. You got you 679 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 4: got everybody talking about you. You got a mother, Yeah, yeah, 680 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 4: you got a good you got a good energy about 681 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 4: your game. 682 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 6: Man. 683 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 4: And then from things I hear about what Steve Kurr 684 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 4: says about you, your ultimate pro, ultimate teammate each and 685 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 4: every day. You know, you bring your hard hat and 686 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 4: you you you're you're a professional. So shout out to 687 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 4: Pat Spencer as well. We got to give love to 688 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 4: him as he's been doing this thing last week. 689 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: The wild thing, and I got to confirm this before 690 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I even opened my mouth. But people 691 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: said because he was a lacrosse like legend and heard 692 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: about that, they're saying like it's like if Michael Jordan, uh, 693 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, decided. I mean it is Michael Jordan case 694 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: where he went over to basketball and was at whatever 695 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: the baseball is actually good at baseball, like they said, 696 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: he was that dude when it came to lacrosse. So 697 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: the fact that he's doing this just seems like he's. 698 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 4: Different and he's like, I mean, he looks like a 699 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: lttle cross player right the way you look like he. 700 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 4: So that's why it's super dope. Like he really just 701 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 4: decided to play basketball. Obviously he got talent and he's good. Yeah, 702 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 4: but like he's really doing his thing and then probably 703 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 4: proving so many people wrong that we're probably on the 704 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 4: probably really like what are you doing while trying to 705 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 4: go to the NBA? Right, so you know, shout out 706 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 4: to him, keep doing your thing, keep swagging out on us, 707 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 4: keep talking y'all. 708 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 3: Shit. 709 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it him yelling at the back. 710 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: He yelled at his own. 711 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 4: Bench after he going, he's going like they got a faby, 712 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 4: he's doing all that. 713 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: So I like his energy, man, and it seemed like 714 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 3: his teammates like him. So that's that's half the battle. 715 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: Love it. 716 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: Okay, we got a couple of small stories that I 717 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: wanted to get to you before we close out the episode, 718 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: so we'll bring back a Bucketer brick. We still haven't 719 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: found a story that you are trying to stay away from. 720 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 2: You've been opened up with us, so you get a 721 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: few stories here. I got one. 722 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't think I got one today because but I 723 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: would love your viewpoint on this stuff. 724 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: So we're gonna go bucking on all these I bet. 725 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: But the first story I wanted to bring up Desmond 726 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: Bain chucked the ball at Og and Anobi the other day. 727 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 6: Og inside Oh, I want to play from Blake Oh, 728 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 6: and Bane throws it off, had an Obi hand on 729 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 6: Obi shoves baby. I've s Bain wanted to save it 730 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 6: and get possession, but he threw it like it was 731 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 6: throwing a fastball. 732 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: Desmond rebound the ball, just chucked it at Og. What 733 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: was going on there? 734 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 4: I was, I'm still trying to figure out, like, do 735 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 4: you not like that guy? Like what the hell was 736 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 4: going on? 737 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 6: Like? 738 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 4: That was because he could have when he got it, 739 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 4: he could have just went the other way, Like he's 740 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 4: not like he saved it out of bounds and he 741 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 4: was like they were already out of bounds. If you ever, 742 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 4: if you watch it again, he really could have grabbed 743 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 4: it and just went the other way. He really like 744 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 4: aimed it fastball. 745 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 3: Straight to the ribs. I'm like, damn funny. 746 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: The funniest part was that he is he pointed to 747 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: their position because it technically was. 748 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: Out on Ojones out on him. 749 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 5: He was what I do. 750 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: It's like, what do you mean? What'd you do? 751 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 4: I wish I could ask him because that was if 752 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,959 Speaker 4: I was on the bench, I would have been like, 753 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 4: oh my goodness, I would have I would have thought 754 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 4: they had some type of beef. And he's trying to 755 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 4: do the right like the wrong thing, but legally like 756 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 4: he was trying to like get him back for some 757 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 4: I was like, dang, and. 758 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 1: Maybe Og is playing innocent, but like they asked him 759 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: during an interview and he was like, actually think Desmond's 760 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: a great guy. 761 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: Maybe you can. 762 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 3: Say that just to like I'm saying, you could tell. 763 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 3: He reacted like what are you doing? Bro? 764 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 4: And then they said something and he was like, it's 765 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 4: all good, bro, it's hard. 766 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 3: So that was a crazy exchange. 767 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 4: I was. 768 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 3: I never seen nothing like that, especially when you didn't 769 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 3: have to go out of bounds. 770 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, our next one, so that was a bucket. 771 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: This next one, this one isn't even that that dicey 772 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: or controversial. But during halftime the other day, okay, see 773 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: for chet, Holmgren gave props to Red Panda during halftime. 774 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: Now I feel like we don't hear you guys got 775 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: to see these acts all the time. So what do 776 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: you think about the halftime act Red Pand do you 777 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: know Red Panda? 778 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure, Yeah yeah, I see Red Panda 779 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 4: a few times in action. 780 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: Well okay, so how is she the goat I guess 781 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: of halftime acts in the NBA. 782 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 3: I mean, she gotta be one of them, Like she's everywhere. 783 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 4: I think every team I played for, I've probably seen 784 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 4: her at the halftime show when I'm trying. 785 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 3: To get some shots up. She over there doing her things. 786 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 4: So nah, she definitely got to be on the on 787 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 4: the mount rushmore. 788 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: So okay, let's put her up against the you know 789 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: the quick change people. You see the quick change people. 790 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 4: I've seen I've seen them in Sacramento. They had an 791 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 4: artist he used to like he used to like draw this, 792 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 4: maybe a lion or somebody, a famous artist, so quick 793 00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 4: and it was like the. 794 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 3: Most just it was a it was a dope little show. 795 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 3: So I've seen a lot. 796 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 2: Obviously that's a as an NBA player, that. 797 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 4: Is funnybody's knowing, everybody's knowing Red Panda. 798 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. 799 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 2: No, it's like unless you're a. 800 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 4: Young unless you're a young guy that does this, doesn't 801 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 4: doesn't really know too much. 802 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: I'm not ready for that for a well tour Red Panda, 803 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 2: not at all. 804 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 3: She gotta keep it going, yeah. 805 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 2: Or there's gotta be like a son or daughter of 806 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: Red pand or something. 807 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it gotta it, gotta it, gotta go in 808 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 4: the family for show. 809 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 1: Okay, So this one video, I feel like all these 810 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: court side videos are coming out. 811 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 2: This is the power of cell phones. 812 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: But somebody caught Jazz coach Will Hardy cussing out his team. 813 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 3: He was going, I'm. 814 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: Tired of doing this everyfing game, play effing Harder. So, uh, 815 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: because I saw some of the criticism people being like, man, 816 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: people are gonna, they're gonna those players are gonna turn 817 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: against them and get them out of there. But like, 818 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: did you feel like that was necessary, uh for for 819 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: coach Already to go off on those players like that. 820 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's a time and place for all that. Like, 821 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 4: he's probably really tired of it. It's probably been a 822 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 4: situation where the last couple of games that came out 823 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 4: like that. So like, yeah, for people to hear him 824 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 4: say that, it's like, oh dang, they're not gonna It's 825 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 4: like that's normal talk in the NBA, especially if you 826 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 4: if you're not on track and doing the right stuff. 827 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 4: That's most coaches are going to talk to you like that. 828 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 4: Everybody's grown, nobody's taking it personal. But you can tell 829 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 4: he's sick and tired of him saying the same thing 830 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 4: over and over. And I've been in those situations as 831 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 4: a player, being on the losing team or a rebuilding team, 832 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 4: and every few games you hear the same stuff, you 833 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 4: hear the same thing, So it's definitely frustrated for a coach, 834 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 4: frustrating for you know, a whole team as well. But 835 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 4: now that's normal talk, so he's he's just upset. That's 836 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 4: something that just keeps happening. 837 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 2: Okay, all right. 838 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: And finally, Adam Silver, he went to a Pacers Nuggets 839 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: game recently and he was doing some commentary. I think 840 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: it was one of when Jamal Murray was dropping fifty 841 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: and and I think that the conversation came up where 842 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: Adam Silver was caught as saying that the league may 843 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: have over calibrated, thinking that the fans wanted to see 844 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: more offense. And I think he was sort of pointing 845 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 1: to that the league favors offense, so like some foul baiting, 846 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: all that stuff people, you know, the stuff that people 847 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: criticize SGA for, even James Hard in the early days, 848 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, for Colley's fouls and thus leading to bigger 849 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: offensive games. So, like, do you find any truth in 850 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: that that the game that the NBA game right now 851 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: sort of favors offense because they think that's what the 852 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: fans want. 853 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 4: To see, No doubt, I don't know if that's what 854 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 4: they think the fans want to see. They know the 855 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 4: fans want to see that, so they're they're the league 856 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 4: is always going to, you know, go with what the 857 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 4: fan is is is in like with and I think 858 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 4: it's over emphasized a little too much on offense. But 859 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 4: like I said earlier, which the difference is when you 860 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 4: go to the playoffs and it's called a totally different 861 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 4: game by the refs where you can be a little 862 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 4: more physical, you can hand check a little bit more. 863 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 4: They're not calling every tiki tak fail that they call 864 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 4: in the regular season. So I do agree on what 865 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 4: Adam Silver is saying, But the game is dictated on 866 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 4: defense as well, So when it's winning time, as is 867 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 4: the playoffs, the game is called different. Hopefully, soon at 868 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 4: some point the game will be called similar to the 869 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 4: playoffs because that's real basketball. 870 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 3: Like obviously the foul baiton is there. 871 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 4: SGA has figured the game out how to manipulate the refs, 872 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 4: and that's a skill. So like even though people get 873 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 4: upset with what SGA does or what James Harden used 874 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 4: to do, like, those are strengths and skills that players 875 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 4: never find out throughout their career on learning how to 876 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 4: get fouled. So we can't blame those players just bending 877 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 4: the rules a little bit or manipulating the refs a 878 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 4: little bit more. We got to be better defenders, if 879 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 4: if you want to be honest. So hopefully, you know, 880 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 4: those two sides connect a little closer in terms of 881 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 4: the regular season being you know, ref like the playoffs do. 882 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 4: And I think you have, you know, a happier fan 883 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 4: base for sure in terms of the whole game. 884 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: That's fascinating because I feel like, you know, with the uh, these. 885 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 2: Players become inventive. 886 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: You know, people think like a great basketball player like, oh, 887 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: they can score whatever. 888 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 2: But it's finding those that small the small ways to. 889 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: Sort of like almost not cheat the game, but like 890 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: find ways to get to the line more or whatever, 891 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: like that's if they change the rules, there's gonna be 892 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: that guy, like an SGA or a James Harden, because 893 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: I remember when people first started to see James Harden go Isa, 894 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: They're like he's slower, he's that Euro and all that 895 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: stuff like So I think it's just that's just evolution 896 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: and the other side of it that I want to 897 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: ask you because I feel like the age old debate 898 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: is always like the nineties, we're tougher defenses. Do you 899 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: feel like that's valid and you think that the league 900 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 1: changed that rule. 901 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 4: The league just changes over time. Yeah, like that's just 902 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 4: what it is. We don't want nineties basketball. I don't, 903 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 4: so we're gonna put that on there. We don't how 904 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 4: they played in the nineties where you can go through 905 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 4: the go through the hole and get checked like this 906 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 4: right right and not get called for Like that's not safe, 907 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 4: that's not basketball. 908 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 909 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 3: I do think it. 910 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 4: Should be called a little tougher than it is right now, 911 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 4: Like it's too touchy, Like if you touch somebody more 912 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 4: than likely, especially if it's a superstar star type of player, they're. 913 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 3: Gonna call it. 914 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 4: You're not allowed to you can't stop anybody if you're 915 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 4: not allowed to touch them. So I think there's a 916 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 4: fine line between the two. But it's hard because the 917 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 4: game is changing. It's a lot of threes. Guys are faster, stronger, 918 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 4: jump higher, So the game is just changing with how 919 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 4: the players are changing. But I would like to see 920 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 4: a fine line between the early two thousands and right now. 921 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 3: I love the nineties and all those. 922 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 4: Players, but like that wasn't how basketball should be played 923 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 4: in terms of the physicality of not calling fouls, Like 924 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,959 Speaker 4: that's just made the strongest man win, and we don't, 925 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 4: you know, that's not who I feel. 926 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, some of the enforcers we don't see like 927 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: a Bill Ambier anymore, you. 928 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 3: Know, because you can't throw. 929 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 4: So like I know, and I'll be having arguments with 930 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 4: my homies and stuff all the time about you know, 931 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 4: some people say this generation softer. It's like the generation 932 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 4: is just adapting to how the game is called. If 933 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 4: you want to be serious, like this generation is probably stronger. 934 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 3: Like they're they're they're faster, they jump higher, if they. 935 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 4: Lifted weights like those guys, why wouldn't they be stronger, 936 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 4: Like that's just how life, you know, how how life transpires. 937 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 4: So it's a fine line that we got to get 938 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 4: back to. I think it's too too touchy right now, 939 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 4: but we we got to get back to being somewhat 940 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 4: a little more physical. 941 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 2: No, our big guys hit threes now, it's crazy. 942 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 3: Nobody's posting up. 943 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 4: That's just the elevation of you know, that's just the 944 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 4: way the game is going and the best players adapting 945 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 4: adjust and if you don't, you'll get left behind. 946 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 2: Well said, all. 947 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: Right, there's been another episode of Point Game. I t 948 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: anything you want leave our audience on for this episode. 949 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 3: What I would say is everybody just be out there, 950 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 3: stay on your slow grind. 951 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 6: Man. 952 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,720 Speaker 4: Life is a slow grind. Ups and downs in life. Man, 953 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 4: just as the holidays come as well. You know those 954 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 4: are always obviously, you know, put smiles on people's faces, 955 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 4: but a lot of people go through a. 956 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,720 Speaker 3: Lot of things during these times. 957 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 4: So just continue to stay on your slow grind and 958 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 4: ride it out. 959 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 6: Man. 960 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 3: It can't stor in forever. 961 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 2: Love it, love it all right. 962 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: There's been another episode of Point Game, brought to you 963 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: by iHeart DraftKings. Follow Through Slow Grind Guys, tap in, 964 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: We got socials on everything, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, subscribe to 965 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: the YouTube channel. 966 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna start dropping. 967 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: Some exclusive content and all that stuff right on there 968 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 1: and channel. There's been Point Game with CJ. Toldono and 969 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas Peace