1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a Break? Yes? 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break? 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 3: Ready for a break? 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 5: Yeah? 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: And so much for that. 10 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton. 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 6: It is Friday, September twenty seventh, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 6: episode number thirty seven. Welcome to the latest edition. 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: Of The Break. 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 6: We are alive from the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star, 16 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 6: and today we talk about Cowboys victory. Cowboys beat the 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 6: Giants last night twenty to fifteen in the Meadowlands. Not 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 6: a game that you necessarily walk away from thinking they 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 6: were perfect, but a game where they got a win 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 6: and they needed a win, and some of the things 21 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 6: we saw, I think were very, very needed based on 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 6: what we'd seen the previous two weeks. We'll dive into 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 6: all of that here coming up over the next forty 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 6: five minutes. As a part of this show, we'll start 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 6: first with our normal game breakdown question, what was the 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 6: story of the game, big picture story of the game. 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 6: After watching last night. 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: Bryan and Starthy, you know, it's probably pretty clear that 29 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: you felt like that the way they played run defense 30 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: was something that you know was much needed. You know, 31 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: we've asked questions on the show about fit finish. All 32 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: those things showed up last night. And when you're able 33 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: to take an opportunity to play a scheme where guy 34 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: plays down and then another guy replaces him, and then 35 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: there's another guy behind that and everybody's kind of doing 36 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: what they're supposed to do, you can you can keep 37 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: a team from running the football on you. And they 38 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: did a really nice job of that last night with 39 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 3: taking their down linemen affecting the way the Giants. Giants 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: didn't have clean opportunities to get up on your linebackers. 41 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: Linebackers tackled very well in this game. When you look 42 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 3: at uh, you know, when you look at what Overshown 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: was able to do, just incredible. His ability to close 44 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: and finish in the Ravens game, he had some missus, uh, 45 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: you know, Kendricks had some missus. This game. You had 46 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: some misses, but it wasn't just backbreaking. And so when 47 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: you play the scheme, you play it the right way, 48 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: you have the right fits, you finish, then you're able 49 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: to to to limit what people can do to you. 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: And I think that's something that Dallas has to be 51 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: really pleased about. You know, it got a little hairy 52 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: there at the end with all the injuries and stuff. 53 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 3: But uh, you know that was that was a gritty 54 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: one at the end in the second half, and maybe 55 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: you needed a little bit of a gritty defensive performance 56 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: there because the last couple of weeks have been far 57 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: from that. 58 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, you talk about injury when we go back into 59 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 7: next when we get into next week and see the 60 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 7: first injury report, I bet there's gonna be a lot 61 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 7: of names on there from the defense specifically because so 62 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 7: many different guys got hurt. But a great win for 63 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 7: the Cowboys. Definitely a tough one. I liked this. What 64 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 7: I liked was that they didn't give up, that they 65 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 7: kept fighting and kept their head in the game despite 66 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 7: all the things that went wrong, the penalties, they kept 67 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 7: fighting all the way till the end. Was it pretty 68 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 7: absolutely not? And it's still concerning when you look at 69 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 7: who the opponent was and you were still struggling against 70 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 7: the team like the Giants. So but I'm gonna take 71 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 7: the win. We're gonna take the win and then move 72 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 7: on to the next next one. Something that the team 73 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 7: talked a lot about was, you know, a short week, 74 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 7: and we know the struggles that were happening leading into 75 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 7: that Thursday night football as far as all the comments 76 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 7: that were coming out the locker room, that could have 77 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 7: gone south very quickly. So I think that them getting 78 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 7: this WIEN just keeps them level because otherwise everybody, like 79 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 7: the headlines today would have been insane if it was otherwise. 80 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 7: But a lot of things need to be fixed for sure. 81 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, it was a gut check game. It 82 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: really was. 83 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 6: And you kind of if you get outside of just 84 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 6: the game and think about the scenario of not only 85 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 6: what you guys mentioned from the standpoint of the locker 86 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 6: room and all the talk last week, but go back 87 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 6: and think about the teams that they played. They played 88 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 6: Baltimore last week, which is known to be an extremely 89 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 6: physical team, and what we noticed in the film was 90 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 6: they loaded up heavy a lot and just basically ran 91 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 6: at the Cowboys and just they took a lot of 92 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 6: abuse last week from the standpoint of just the physical 93 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 6: collisions that they took and then to turn around and 94 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 6: four days later have to travel not have a home game, 95 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 6: but I have to travel to New York. During that game, 96 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 6: you had some of your best players. You had Micah Tank, 97 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 6: Zach Trayvon Overshown all leaving the game with injuries. I 98 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 6: think it's not a coincidence based on where they were, 99 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 6: who they played last week, short week to then get 100 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 6: up there and on a night when it was extremely 101 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 6: for I think for this time of the year, it 102 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 6: was pretty humid out there as well, so you saw 103 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 6: guys cramping up like it was just a lot going on, 104 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 6: and so for me, it was a gut check game, 105 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 6: Like that's one of those games where it would have 106 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 6: been very easy to be like, all right, my body's 107 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 6: just not doing it tonight, and you start doing things 108 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 6: that outside of yourself, not playing your role, not doing 109 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 6: your job. 110 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: That's not what we necessarily saw. 111 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 6: It was sloppy at times, let's not make any bones 112 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 6: about that. But the fact is it was a gut 113 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 6: check moment. They in my opinion, they passed that part 114 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 6: of the test and that's how they ended up gutting 115 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 6: out that win last night. 116 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and you mentioned the sloppy part of 117 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: the game, it felt like though, and sometimes this has 118 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 3: to happen. The Giants helped you a little bit in 119 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 3: that football that night, and they had some they had 120 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: some untimely drops their quarterback. It's really strange he has 121 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: lost the ability to throw the ball down the field 122 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: when you're talking about the vertical routes and stuff like that, 123 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: because when you watch the tape, you're going to see 124 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: a couple of times where his inability to get the 125 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: ball out there cost them an opportunity for an explosive play, 126 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: a huge play. You got a little lucky on the 127 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: other side, and it's a win. But I've just got 128 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: to point out there's a couple of times where where 129 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 3: late in that game, hooker goes for an interception, balls 130 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 3: over his head and if it's anybody but Wondo Robinson 131 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: standing on the other side, anybody with any length and 132 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 3: size to him, it's probably a catch. You know. But 133 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 3: you know, things like that have to happen in a 134 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: game for you to win. You know, he he dropped 135 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 3: a ball and a third down inside that you know, 136 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: Lewis drove on and tried to knock loose and in 137 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks. It seems like every time 138 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: that's happened, they've caught the ball and it's been an 139 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: explosive play. Saints the Ravens. You know, you caught some 140 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: brakes last night. Sometimes in this league you need a 141 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: few breaks, and you know, and and good that you 142 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: got him, But you're right about the gut check part. 143 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: You know, you're you know, they got call ups playing 144 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: crucial roles in the game, determining, you know. And I 145 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: was listening to, you know, to Mike after the game 146 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: last night, and he was like, hey, listen to he 147 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: you know, don't look at it as call up. I mean, 148 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: we were close on all these guys. I mean, so 149 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: to me, that tells me that the confidence in Booth 150 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: was confident enough to start him, but it wasn't confident enough. 151 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: If he starts to struggle, we're going to pull him. 152 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: We're going to pull him. You know. So they had 153 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: they had options and and you know, their options actually 154 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: stepped up and helped them, you know, get that victory 155 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: last night. 156 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 6: Yep, all right, let's dive into some of the details 157 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 6: of the game. Let's let's start with the offensive side 158 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 6: of the ball. Dak was twenty two of twenty seven 159 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 6: eighty one percent completion rate, two hundred and twenty one yards, 160 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 6: two touchdowns, intercept, no interceptions, one hundred and twenty five 161 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 6: point five rating. It's the seventh time in his career 162 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 6: that he's had an eighty plus percent completion rate game 163 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 6: with two touchdowns. Overall, very efficient night, how would just 164 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 6: says his play. 165 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: I feel like though that when you looked at Dak, 166 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: they did a really nice job of taking advantage of 167 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: some things with the giants and the secondary. They they 168 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: were able to hit some plays while they were able 169 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 3: to get some protection because the protection wasn't always there. 170 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: They left getting out there for a long time by himself, 171 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: you know. And I'm interested to see was it. Were 172 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: they so concerned about Lawrence inside? You know, I mean 173 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: if you look at Cooper Bebee, the metrics will tell 174 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: you that was a thirty percent you know, him being 175 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: by himself, seventy percent double team, So that means, okay, well, 176 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 3: who's helping bebe It's one of those guards. Yeah, And 177 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: you know, they they felt like that that Geiiton could 178 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: handle the load on the outside. And you know, there 179 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: was some struggles there. Clearly there were some struggles and 180 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: with the holding calls and things. But with Dak, he's 181 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: able to you know, he's able to get the ball 182 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: out when he needs to. He understands what's kind of 183 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: going on on his you know, behind him over there, 184 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: his blind side, and you know you could see him, 185 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: you know, Lamb. They put him in the backfield. They 186 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: kind of do some things to try and get him 187 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: the football. They tried to even you know, you saw 188 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: Rico Daddle run the ball, you know a little bit, 189 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: and they just tried to do some things to help 190 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 3: the quarterback along. He responded well with the throws, the 191 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: accurate throws that he was able to make. Ferguson Lamb. 192 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: They still got to kind of figure out things about cooks, 193 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: you know. But you know, that's it's a little bit 194 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: of a a little bit of a game too of 195 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: like how do you have really first half offense and 196 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: not much second half offense? You know that that's another 197 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: thing that we've kind of It seems like, wow, Okay, 198 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: they got things rolling nicely here and then all of 199 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: a sudden things just kind of shut down on you 200 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: a little bit. But you know, but overall, I think 201 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: Dak did exactly what he needed to do to win 202 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: this football game. 203 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think he looked a lot more confident than 204 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 7: he did last week, and he looked more poised. Some 205 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 7: of his throws were really good, and he was very 206 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 7: proud about him hitting that eighty percent. Talking to the 207 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 7: media after the game, someone mentioned to him like, hey, 208 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 7: you got eighty percent quarterback rating and he was like, yes, 209 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 7: he just did like with his fist, so he said. 210 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 7: He mentioned that was his goal headed into this week, 211 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 7: and that typically is his goal that he has set 212 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 7: for himself to hit that eighty So you can see 213 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 7: the improvement some of those throwing Brian, you mentioned Ceedee 214 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 7: Lamb and I think they had a better connection. It's 215 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 7: still not where you wanted to be. And also you 216 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 7: mentioned those throws or the handoffs with him because acting 217 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 7: as a running back it hasn't worked. They've done it 218 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 7: how many times now, like four overall since they started doing. 219 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: That, the read the option to read options people. 220 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 7: But yeah, and then takes off trying to run. I 221 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 7: don't know why they keep trying that because it just 222 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 7: hasn't well. 223 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: We always asked though, like why did he run more? 224 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: You know? And then I mean maybe that's why you 225 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: don't run more right there, But the Giants had that one. 226 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: There were a couple of times when the Giants had 227 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: you just good call. You know, you gotta tip your 228 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: hat to them, like okay, you know that might fool somebody, 229 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: but that didn't fool them on that particular play. 230 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 7: But it's not like to me, like plays like that 231 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 7: that hasn't shown to be uh successful successful. 232 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: It's almost like that the jet sweep thing with the CD. 233 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: I'm kind of like over that right now with that situation. 234 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 7: But the other thing is like when you look at 235 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 7: a player like Hunter and you see it most of 236 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 7: the time when he gets the ball or the opportunity, 237 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 7: he takes advantage of it and makes a good play. 238 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 7: So it just makes me wonder why not? And I 239 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 7: feel like I always we always are me. I'm gonna 240 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 7: speak for myself. I always get to myself too, where 241 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 7: I see something that could be potentially good and them 242 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 7: not trying to do it enough. 243 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 8: And going back to branding. 244 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 7: Cooks and some of the plays where we're always like, oh, 245 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 7: why don't you get him the ball? Then they're trying 246 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 7: to get him the ball, but it's not successful. So 247 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 7: it's just like it's hard to get a full like 248 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 7: a good gauge or grip of like what this offense 249 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 7: should be because sometimes you think they should make certain 250 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 7: plays and then what they do is is just they're 251 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 7: not executed it. 252 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 8: Executing it well, you. 253 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 3: Couldn't have had a better game if you're Hunter Lipkey 254 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 3: last night. And I say that, look at what his 255 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 3: plays that he made, the third down catch that he 256 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: made for a first down, it was third let men 257 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: and he makes a you know, he makes catch, great catch. 258 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 3: The fourth down run where he's trapped. What happens very 259 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: next play touchdown the lamb the guy had. He also 260 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 3: had three tackles on special teams last night. He couldn't 261 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 3: have played any better or been more of a more 262 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: important player. His plays led to bigger plays, you know, 263 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 3: and that's and that's that's what you gotta You know, 264 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: when you're when you're going to a game and you're 265 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: putting him in there and you throw them the ball 266 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: or handing the ball, and then the very next play 267 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: it's a touchdown or a big play, you're like, my gosh, 268 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 3: you know that that's what you gotta do. And like 269 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: I said, on the special teams, you know, he's been 270 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: really really good as well, so, uh, you know overall 271 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: defensively though, I the thing that the thing that's gonna 272 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: be kind of you know is I I'm just this 273 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: is just the one critical thing I'll say with Mike's 274 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: Mike could have helped, could have helped Guiden on one 275 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: play that I thought about, the third and one play 276 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: when they throw the ball, you know, and they get 277 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: the holding call, just run it. Just you know, just 278 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 3: you're at a point in time where you're just your 279 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: defense has faced a lot of plays and you're kind 280 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 3: of struggling a little bit, you know, on their end 281 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: of it. Keep the keep the chain moving, keep it going, 282 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 3: keep you know, try and just build something on that. 283 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: To me, Third and one, just hand the ball to 284 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 3: Hunter Lipkey, hand the ball to Rico Daddle. When you 285 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: pass it, okay, you see what happens. Third and one, 286 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 3: you just just run it. You got game in hand, 287 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: you're kind of you know, you need to just keep 288 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: going and decide to throw it. And I'm like, okay, 289 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 3: you just put your left tackle who's struggling in a 290 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 3: terrible position there, and he gets a holding call and 291 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: it backs it up, and you know, you don't get 292 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: the you know, get it. You know, you don't get 293 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: what you need out of that. So I'm like I said, 294 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: they got to figure out something about sustainability of the 295 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: offense though, too. 296 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, let's take our first break. 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I think it was 379 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 6: in thes either late third quarter or early fourth quarter. Uh, 380 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 6: they had a drive where they head him back to 381 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 6: back for like six yard runs, and I was like, 382 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 6: this is the time in the game when the running game. 383 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 6: I'm looking for those moments when you need the running game. 384 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 6: Is the running game there? Because running don't have to 385 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 6: be great all game. There are gonna be moments when 386 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 6: you need it. And I thought they were actually getting 387 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 6: something out of it. And then the next drive they 388 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 6: come back and they got Zeke out there, and again, 389 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 6: this is not a knock on Zke. 390 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: This is not meant to be a knock on Zke. 391 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 6: I think my personal opinion is I think ric o' 392 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 6: daldo is the best runner you have on this scene. 393 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: Yes, I think Lipke. 394 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 6: Is a runner that can give you a little something 395 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 6: that's a little different. He can give you a little 396 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 6: bit more of that those power runs, and I personally 397 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 6: think they should shrink this thing down and really focus 398 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 6: on those two runners. 399 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that, Brian. 400 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: No, I do agree with you, and you know what, 401 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: I wouldn't this is my opinion. I wouldn't be opposed 402 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: to seeing what Dalvin Cook has and sit Zeke, I 403 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: really wouldn't. Yeah, but I like what you're doing here. 404 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,479 Speaker 3: When they were able to run the ball, they did 405 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: a really nice job with either Martin or Smith helping 406 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: BB on Lawrence, and it really once they were able 407 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 3: to kind of cure him that it led to the 408 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 3: ability to cut the ball in through the middle of 409 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: the defense. That was you know, and doubtle and those 410 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: guys did a nice job. Even there was a couple 411 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 3: with Zeke. Zeke had a run that got called back 412 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 3: with a double holding call that gat BB and it 413 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 3: was really it was actually a really good run and 414 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: I thought it was a pretty well blocked play. But 415 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: they secured Lawrence to the point where they were able 416 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 3: to make those cuts off off that block, And so yeah, 417 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: I think I think, you know, I think with with 418 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: Rico daudele Is as a primary back, I have no 419 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 3: problem with that. I am kind of interested if they 420 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 3: get things going up front where the combination blocks and 421 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 3: stuff do work, that maybe that we do see. But 422 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 3: I don't think they would sit and Zeke, I just don't. 423 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 3: I don't right now, and I'm because I'm kind of 424 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: trying to get John Stevens active too, and I can't 425 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 3: get him active as well. But uh, I'll tell you 426 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: what they did in the end of the game though, 427 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: that is to kind of keep it going. Instead of 428 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 3: just a first run, they threw the ball to like 429 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 3: Ferguson or they threw the ball you know, short, and 430 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: it's like a six yard gain and then they run 431 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: the ball and then it so it wasn't run run, run, 432 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: it was throw it, try and get something and then 433 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: come to the run with that, and it kind of 434 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: it kind of you know, the Giants, you're you're instead 435 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: of handing the ball off and the Cowboys last two 436 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: weeks they get the ball handed off on him. It 437 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 3: was a seven or eight yard gain and you're like, well, 438 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 3: you can't stop the run. Dallas is like, well, we're 439 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 3: not really sure we can run it well enough. So 440 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: what we'll do is we'll try and throw, get six 441 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: yards and then we'll run, so. 442 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 6: You'll get into second or four. You can make that work. 443 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: He got a. 444 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: Little pattern with the way, you know, the way he 445 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 3: was trying to finish that game with throwing it to 446 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: Ferguson or you know, somebody, and then going from there, 447 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 3: I liked what they were able to do all thatt 448 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 3: Rico ran the ball tough yesterday. I really I liked that. 449 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: I liked with his ability to cut behind those blocks. Right, 450 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 3: that's the thing. 451 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 6: He's got a little more juice than any of the 452 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 6: other guys in my opinion. 453 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I can see that. I mean, he's made 454 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 7: those plays, but still we all know the running game 455 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 7: is nowhere near where it should be. So I wanted 456 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 7: to ask you guys this, we've been waiting to see 457 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 7: Darvin Cook. I mean, at what point when do you 458 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 7: think is the perfect time or when they would do 459 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 7: or decide to make this move because I'm starting to think, 460 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 7: I mean, could it potentially be a product of what 461 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 7: they're seeing at practice where they're like, well, he's not 462 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 7: simply anywhere ahead of the guys that we currently have. 463 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 3: I don't know about you. I haven't heard. I've heard 464 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 3: everything has been positive and everything is ready to go. 465 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: But I've also heard some whispers that he's kind of 466 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: wondering what's going on here too. 467 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 6: I get the opinion, and this is just my opinion. 468 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 6: I get the opinion that he is an insurance policy 469 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 6: for them. I don't get the opinion that they just 470 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 6: want to necessarily like they were just getting him acclimate 471 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 6: and then they were ready to throw him in there 472 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 6: and take them to what happens. Like, I think they 473 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 6: feel like Zeke has a role on this team, and 474 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 6: as you said, yeah, like I have a hard time 475 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 6: thinking both he ands he correct if somebody's have to 476 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 6: go down, And I just don't know that they're at 477 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 6: a point where they're ready to put Zeke on the bench. 478 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: I just don't. I mean, yeah, I just don't think that. 479 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 6: I think they believe he still has a role for them. 480 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: Well if that's if that's the case, then if and 481 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 3: I don't know if somebody would poach Dalvin Cook if 482 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 3: they there was an injury. But I don't necessarily believe 483 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 3: that Dalvin Cook would be loyal to you right now, 484 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: if somebody came along and said, hey, we'd like to 485 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 3: put you. 486 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 6: On your practice squad so somebody could come take him, yeah, 487 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 6: I was. 488 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: Willing to do it. 489 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 3: I hope I'm not speaking out a turn there, but 490 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 3: you know, I just get in the feeling some whispering 491 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 3: that it's hey, you know this guy is he's he's 492 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 3: like he sees what's going on in the Running Game, 493 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 3: and he's kind of like you sure, you sure we 494 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 3: can't do this a little bit better, a little bit different. 495 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: And Io Rico is clearly the best back here on 496 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: on the on him and Hunter Lipkey and then you 497 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 3: know what they do with Vaughan. I think it is 498 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: fine for his role. Flet's pick up on the on 499 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 3: the fifty five yard touchdown pass is the reason why 500 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: you were able to get the ball off. 501 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 7: McCarthy has shown multiple multiple occasions that he's not afraid 502 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 7: to sit someone out and like make a switch, make 503 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 7: a change. So to me, it's just very interesting last 504 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 7: night exactly exactly. 505 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they they had enough enough. 506 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 7: But four games in now you continue to struggle. I'm like, why, 507 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 7: Like it just doesn't make sense in my mind, why 508 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 7: not just give it a try, just to at least 509 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 7: see you? 510 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 8: But he find out. 511 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 6: What we've heard from them, and I'm talking when I 512 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 6: say them, I'm talking about Mike, I'm talking about Jerry, 513 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 6: I'm talking about everybody that talks on behalf of the organization. 514 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: What we've heard from them. 515 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 6: Is, I don't know that they think the Running Games 516 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 6: is bad off as we all think it is. I 517 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 6: believe that they are looking at it and they're saying, well, 518 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 6: we haven't been in games where we really like the 519 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 6: running game, like we've gotten taken out of games where 520 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 6: we had, we gotten taken out of our last right, 521 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 6: and so I think they believe our running game hasn't 522 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 6: really been tested yet, so we don't really know. 523 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 3: Now. 524 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 8: I'm not saying I'm. 525 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 6: Not saying anybody agrees with that. I'm saying they're the 526 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 6: ones making the calls. They make the calls, and I'm 527 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 6: thinking that the way they're talking makes me think they 528 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 6: don't think there's as much of a problem as we 529 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 6: think there is, you know. 530 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 8: And that's a problem if we see it. 531 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's their job to make that call, 532 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 3: and we and we we talk about it. We got 533 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 3: we got microphones and cameras and we talk about it, 534 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: and that's what we do. And you know, sometimes you 535 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: sit in that room, I will say it's from personal experience. 536 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 3: There are times when I've watched when I worked for 537 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: this team and you guys are having your shows. You 538 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: guys would say something, or they'd say something on the 539 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 3: radio or TV, and I would go, they're absolutely right, 540 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 3: They're absolutely right. You know that is you know, sometimes 541 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 3: you sit there and go, yeah, I don't know, I 542 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: don't know about that. But then there are other times 543 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 3: where media members would say things and I would go the. 544 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: Right and sometimes you come up to mine in Nick's 545 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 2: office and. 546 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 6: Say, yeah, I know, you guys are right about that. 547 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, right about that. I mean, see, that's what I'm saying. 548 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: They they obviously feel like I think the running game 549 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 3: could be better. I mean better, I mean better. They've 550 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 3: at least committed to Daddle as the starter. It's not 551 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 3: like they're waisting carry. I mean they had. Elliott had 552 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: five carries. Like I said, the one long run he 553 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: had came back because of a holding call, two holding calls, 554 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 3: matter of fact, on the same play. But I I 555 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 3: would I would be interested to see Cook just for 556 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 3: the reason of is could he give you him and 557 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 3: Daddle together? Yeah? You know, and I'm with you, you 558 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 3: know I would. If you're not, if you're not going 559 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: to play Cook, then I would say, okay, give me 560 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: more Daddle and give me more Hunter Lipkey. You know, 561 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: because Hunter Lipkey can get you four or five yards 562 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 3: with his style, his running style. So if that's what 563 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 3: you know, I'm I'm I'm okay with that, but I 564 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: think this offensive line what I saw with them blocking 565 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: on On Lawrence yesterday, and he's difficult. He one of 566 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: the best nosed men in the league. That's a that's 567 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: a problem you're dealing with. They did a good job 568 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 3: on that. If you could block him, geez, you could 569 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 3: block others in this league just as effectively. Yep. 570 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 6: And I actually I'm even wondering, like how Zeke is 571 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 6: taking all this. I don't know if you noticed this 572 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 6: last night, Amber, but uh you Usually usually after the game, 573 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 6: Zeke is one of the people that's immediately ready to 574 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 6: talk to the media, and I think the media knows that. 575 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 6: So after the game, I think all the media kind 576 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 6: of got it there. We were all there waiting right 577 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 6: by his locker, and he finished getting dressed, he put 578 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 6: on his headphones, turned on his music, got his bag, 579 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 6: and walked out, and everybody's kind of like, oh, guess 580 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 6: he's not talking, which is very different for Zeke. If 581 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 6: it would have been other players, you probably would have 582 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 6: been like, oh whatever. 583 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 8: Because regardless, that's right. 584 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 6: And so it does make me wonder how he's feeling 585 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 6: about his role right now, because it is a diminished 586 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 6: role Brian. What it was week one to where it 587 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 6: is now, No role is diminishing, and maybe that is 588 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 6: maybe he is seeing the writing on the wall that 589 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 6: at some point maybe that he may not be the 590 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 6: guy that's acted well. 591 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 3: See that's what I'm saying, and Dalvin Cook is probably 592 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: thinking the same thing. Well, why am I watching this 593 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: team run for three and a half yards of carry 594 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 3: and we're gonna sit there and go into week five 595 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 3: and not do anything about it. 596 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 6: It's definitely to me it has definitely flipped a little 597 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 6: bit to where I think it's being established at Rico 598 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 6: is the guy, and I want to see a little 599 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 6: bit more that because, like I said, I do think 600 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 6: he has a little more juice right now than anybody 601 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 6: else that we've seen. But I do wonder how the 602 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 6: rest of the guys in that room were feeling about 603 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 6: the position. 604 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 7: Seg was also, I mean we were standing there by 605 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 7: the tunnel getting off the fields and Sege was the 606 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 7: first one to get off the field by himself just walking, 607 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 7: which again that's normal, players do that all the time. 608 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 7: But it was just like you could see a different 609 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 7: Something is just not right and whatever it may be, 610 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,719 Speaker 7: maybe it is what you're saying, Derek, that he's starting 611 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 7: to feel the pressure. 612 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 6: And honestly, I don't know. I've not talked to him 613 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 6: about this. 614 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 615 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 6: It could have just been he just didn't want to 616 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 6: talk to the media. I'm just saying it was different 617 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 6: than normal because usually Zeki is very talkative when it 618 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 6: comes to the media, even after games where he doesn't 619 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 6: play well. 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Obviously, 698 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 6: I think for everybody I would have guess was the 699 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 6: run defense last night against the Giants. They held into 700 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 6: twenty six rush yards on twenty four attempts. That's a 701 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 6: one point one average. And for those that will say 702 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 6: the Giants run game ain't that good, well, I'll put 703 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 6: it in context for you is this is the best 704 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 6: run defensive performance that any team has had so far 705 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 6: through the first three weeks of the NFL season. That 706 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 6: is says that this was not just the Giants. This 707 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 6: was an abnormally great run defense defensive effort that the 708 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 6: Cowboys put on last night. 709 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: My question for you guys is what do you think 710 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: was different? 711 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 3: The tackling was different, the ability to uh, you know, 712 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 3: to ability. Zimmer and the coaches did a nice job. 713 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: The fits we always talk about. You know, spacing is important, 714 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 3: Gap integrity is important, Playing the edges is important. Filling 715 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 3: for your teammates are important. Uh, being in position to 716 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 3: you know, when you you looked last night, Uh, there 717 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 3: are some guys that tackled really well in that game. 718 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: We talked about overshown. Jordan Lewis continues to just amaze 719 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 3: me the way that he's able to play too. And 720 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 3: and I just bring up tackling. It really didn't have 721 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 3: anything to do with the running game. But you know, 722 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 3: when the ball gets in space, that that ability to 723 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 3: limit what those you know, you know, we've seen it 724 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks that run after contact has 725 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 3: been a huge problem. You know, if you look at 726 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 3: the metrics, there was two hundred and forty one yards 727 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 3: of you know, extra of miss tackles for the Cowboys 728 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 3: this year, and and it's it's clear, I mean, it's 729 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 3: very evident. So just they are a billy you know, 730 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 3: Mazzie Smith and how he plays, and when you have 731 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 3: a a confident you know, one technique that plays on 732 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 3: the other side of the line of scrimmage. Last night, 733 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,959 Speaker 3: even Lynnville Joseph kind of when you watch the tape, 734 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 3: Lynnville Joseph looked like now Lynnville Joseph played a lot 735 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 3: of his career there against the Giants, probably wanted to 736 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 3: show folks that hey, I could still move, I could 737 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 3: still play. The first several weeks, he hadn't played with 738 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 3: great range. Last night he played like maybe a little 739 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 3: bit better conditioning, maybe a little bit you know, with 740 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 3: the going against the guards here and you know with 741 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 3: the Giants, it's you know their offensive line, they've got 742 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 3: some competent players. They feel better bad. Their protection actually 743 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 3: was pretty good on you last night. But Daniel Jones 744 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 3: gets rid of the ball now quick. He doesn't hold 745 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 3: the ball like he did back in the day. But 746 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 3: the run game stuff, the fits, the finish, all that 747 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 3: leads to better run defense. 748 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 7: I just think they were more aggressive overall, and something 749 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 7: that I didn't notice its physical. 750 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 8: More physical. 751 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, the tackling it did improve since last week. 752 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: For sure. 753 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 7: There's still some bad ones out there that you're like, 754 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 7: what are we doing here? But at the same time, 755 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 7: you want to see some kind of improvement. And despite 756 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 7: what fans or other people might say that, oh well 757 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 7: it was against the Giants, regardless of that, it's a 758 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 7: good practice. It's something that you want to see happening. 759 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 7: It builds their confidence back up again. We will see 760 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 7: about all the injuries and the kind of told that 761 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 7: it took on them. But overall, what I like the 762 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 7: most was Mike zimmer some of the adjustments he was 763 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 7: able to make, and the players being able to execute 764 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 7: it a lot better. People being more focused on doing 765 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 7: their own job and working as a team. So I 766 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 7: think everyone was more in sync in that regards and 767 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 7: playing a lot faster, uh to where they're not just 768 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 7: running behind the whole time. Over shown another guy that 769 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 7: just man, he's so impressive just overall and the fight 770 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 7: that he puts in in every single play. But yeah, 771 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 7: just you know, faster and more physical. 772 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 3: Even in the fourth down run that they converted. You know, 773 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 3: you got a you get a penetrating tank lawrence that 774 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 3: forces Singletary to have to They're they're they're set up 775 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 3: to run the ball to the Dallas's left side of 776 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 3: the defense. They've got all their blockers position in that area. 777 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 3: Ball is going to the right. They're going to try 778 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 3: and get this fourth and one. What happens, tank beats 779 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 3: the block, You get a penetrator. Now Singletary has to 780 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 3: try and spill it from the backside. Here comes Wilson. 781 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 3: You know that that ball right there, Wilson makes that play. 782 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 3: The ball is on the Giants half of the field. 783 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 3: And now now they're in big trouble. Yeah, now they're 784 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 3: in big trouble. And but you know, you missed a 785 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 3: tackle lea foul. His angle was not the best on 786 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 3: that one, you know, but they get the first down. 787 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 3: But it just goes to show you that when you 788 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 3: know some. 789 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 8: Of his tackles. Though, man, that guy he has some strength. 790 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 3: No, No, they absolutely see. I always felt like though 791 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 3: this crew, if they're going to be good playing run defense, 792 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 3: it's going to be the linebackers. And they didn't play 793 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 3: particularly well as a group last week. This week they 794 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 3: were much better. But your defensive line was much better. Yeah. 795 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 7: I think that's why I did it for him, because 796 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 7: they were lacking that kind of help last week. Is 797 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 7: like you're exposing your linebacker is because. 798 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 3: You're Mazzi was. 799 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 6: I think this was Mazzi's best game as a cowboy 800 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 6: in my opinion. 801 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 3: John Michael Smith's the center for them is a is 802 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 3: a very is kind of an undersized guy, but he's 803 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: but he's a really good athlete and he could position 804 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 3: blocking Mazzi beat him up in this scale. You know 805 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 3: when he when he had to block Mazzi one on one, 806 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 3: Mazzie was not having any of that. Yeah, you know. 807 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 3: There were several times where I just if I going 808 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 3: back to my notes, I could pull four or five 809 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 3: plays where Mazzi was a factor in the play being 810 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 3: disrupted because of his ability to either get off a 811 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 3: block or get some penetration in order to cause the 812 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 3: ball to have to go another direction. 813 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 6: It actually seems to me like going back to the 814 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 6: fourth quarter of the last game, a light switch might 815 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 6: have gone on for Mozzie because I think he had 816 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 6: a good fourth quarter last game and it carried over 817 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 6: to this game. And I think he, like I said, 818 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 6: I think this was his best performance as a Cowboy. 819 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 6: I will be interested to see as weeks go on. 820 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 6: Now can he sustain this? Because if you can, now 821 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 6: the Cowboys might be cooking with something. Now they may 822 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 6: actually get what they expected out of this guy when 823 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 6: they picked him in the first. 824 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 3: See this is where Mozzi, you know, he fought through 825 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 3: the back and then during the game he fought through 826 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 3: a hamstring. More games of Mazzi fighting through things is 827 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 3: could only be better in him having success because it 828 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 3: could be very easy for him to got the low 829 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 3: back kindness, gonna sit this one out, you know, not 830 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 3: going to practice, not gonna do this, not going to 831 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 3: do that. And you know, so you know, having to 832 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 3: fight through and battle. A lot of guys did that 833 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 3: last night. You mentioned about the game, and you know 834 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 3: you usually go to the meadowlands. You're not thinking about 835 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 3: guys getting ivs and stuff. But that was human. That 836 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 3: was a tough one and they had to face a 837 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 3: lot of plays. You know, think about that. 838 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,240 Speaker 2: They the Giants crazy. 839 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 3: Well, this just shows you after the Giants got that 840 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 3: fourth and one, they ran ten more plays. Think about that. 841 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 3: You know, you're off the field, you're you're done, but 842 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 3: you give up a first down and now you're now 843 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 3: you're in a situation where you have to face ten 844 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 3: more plays. You know, Thank gosh, the their coach decided 845 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 3: kick field goals on the three yard line. You know, 846 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 3: that's you know that that's okay. If you're going to 847 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 3: do that, by all means going to keep going. 848 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think when you look at just the with 849 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,439 Speaker 6: the players that they didn't have on defense particularly and 850 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 6: at the cornerback position, and the way that they were 851 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 6: able to basically even though they gave up some yards. 852 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 2: And they were able to stiffen in the in. 853 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 6: The red zone hold the field goals like that, That 854 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 6: to me is a that's if you're going to stop 855 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 6: the run, you're going to stiffen in the red zone 856 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 6: and force teams to kick field goals. That's a formula 857 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 6: for success. Like you don't have to be great. A 858 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 6: great defense that is a formula for success, which again, 859 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 6: after the last two weeks, you're just looking for some 860 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 6: progress to where you're like, Okay, I see what this 861 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 6: defense can be that could be successful. That is a 862 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 6: formula for success. 863 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 3: That neighbors is going to be a pain in the 864 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 3: rear for a low times. Yeah. I mean that kid play, 865 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 3: that guy is a you know, he's outstanding. They moved 866 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 3: him around. The Cowboys played some you know, they trailed 867 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 3: him a couple of different times when they had to. 868 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 3: You know, the plays that dig the fourth down play 869 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 3: that Digs made. I mean, that could have been a 870 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 3: hell of a catch right there. I mean the kid 871 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 3: kind of knocked himself out when he his head hit 872 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 3: the ground, you know, and he got the concussion and all. 873 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 3: But you know, sheeze. It's it's tough, man. I mean 874 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 3: you you you know, you never feel about the Aubrey's 875 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 3: going to miss a field gold and all of a sudden, 876 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 3: now they've got the ball at the forty three yard 877 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 3: line and you're going money, uh oh, here we go. 878 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 3: This This could not be good. You know, if they're 879 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 3: they're throwing at the end zone, here. 880 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 6: Yeah you're thinking that. I'm thinking Aubrey's gonna seal this game. Yeah, 881 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 6: it just doesn't happen at the at the time when 882 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 6: you would have just like, I mean, it's so crazy. 883 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,439 Speaker 6: Now who got a point? Now we're get fifty plus 884 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 6: yard field goals, You're just like, yeah, he's got it. 885 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 2: I used the problem. 886 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 3: I used to think, like, there, you know, the ball 887 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 3: gets to where it's a sixty yard field gold. I 888 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 3: was always leaning over to my guy Zach Walcheck and go, 889 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 3: you gotta punt this ball. Yeah you can't. You got 890 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 3: to punt this ball. Play defense. And then he knocks 891 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 3: it home and all that, and so now I don't 892 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 3: even anything. 893 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 6: You know, he's just he's And by the way, that's 894 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 6: one miss He's still up there as one of the 895 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 6: best kickers in the league. 896 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 2: You just trust him. 897 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 3: I hope this isn't the stop it. What happened with 898 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 3: stop It? 899 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,240 Speaker 9: You can stop that Evil Talks was missing extra point? 900 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 3: Stop it? All right? 901 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,479 Speaker 2: I got one last question for you guys. 902 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 6: If you had to choose between these two guys for 903 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 6: the star performer last night, which would it be Missie 904 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 6: Smith or the movie marve On overshown. 905 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 3: Man. Overshown was all over the field, and I and 906 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 3: I and I want to believe that you know what 907 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 3: you should You should probably give it to Massey because 908 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 3: Overshow is gonna have more games like this, you know. 909 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 3: But Mose, it's like riding this roller coaster at six 910 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 3: the bars, you know, the bars in your lap and 911 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 3: you're like screaming going down the hill. 912 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 2: That's when you're working with That's when you work with kids, 913 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 2: you know. 914 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 6: And you got this one kid that's not very good, 915 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 6: like you're working with him on sports Team one. Kids 916 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 6: never get but he does something you just make a 917 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 6: huge deal. Oh my god, you don't know. You gotta 918 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 6: get back that great moment. You got to give him 919 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 6: that love. But I'm believing in Mazi. I think this 920 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 6: is a turning point. We're gonna look back and we're 921 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 6: gonna say at the end of his career, we're gonna 922 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 6: look back and say, you remember that fourth quarter of 923 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 6: that Baltimore game. The light came on and this kid 924 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 6: turned into a player. I'm just telling you he's gonna 925 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 6: he's gonna be fine. 926 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 14: Now. 927 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 6: He may not be great as a one technique technique, 928 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 6: it's hard to be great in the year. 929 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 3: He played great technique last night, right, But I'm saying. 930 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 2: So that's not gonna be in every week thing. 931 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 6: There's not gonna be every week when a one technique 932 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 6: is like one of the best players on the defense, 933 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 6: or at least it shows up that way. If he 934 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,959 Speaker 6: can just do it consistently, where he does his job, 935 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 6: that's all I want from him. To me, that's a 936 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 6: great that's a great player. If he can do that 937 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 6: at the one technique. 938 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 3: If I told you he had one more tackle than 939 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 3: Dexter Lawrence, would you be happy about that? There you go, 940 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 3: had one more tackle than Dexter Lawrence in that game. 941 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 6: I didn't really hear much from Dexter Lawrence last Yeah, 942 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 6: he's never been double team more in a game. 943 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah that's smart. 944 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 3: Yeah it's smart. 945 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 2: Worried about it, that's smart. 946 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 3: But your left tackles out there out there just. 947 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 6: But you know, I also wonder, I wonder if the 948 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 6: reason why we saw so much from him last night 949 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 6: that wasn't great was because this is probably the game 950 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 6: where they've left. 951 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,959 Speaker 2: Him out on an island more than they have all year. 952 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 6: And that's what you get with a rookie tackle when 953 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 6: you leave him out on an island. 954 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 2: But he probably learned a lot last night too. 955 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 3: Every week is a learning experience. He is like his hands. 956 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 3: It's like it's like he's in the movie Twister, like 957 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 3: male boxes is flying off and man hole covers and 958 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 3: he's in a car hits him, you know. I mean, 959 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,800 Speaker 3: it's it's tough. 960 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 2: What he's learning is. It's not like playing it ou. 961 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 2: There are no off weeks. 962 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 6: Every week you got a capable pass rusher coming in 963 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 6: every week that you got to deal with everything away, 964 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 6: no matter what. Now, the interesting part we didn't mention 965 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 6: j Watt coming out right. Brian Burns didn't really he 966 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 6: didn't do much anything. 967 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 3: He had no pressures this first time, and I think 968 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 3: in his career where he didn't have a pressure again yeah. 969 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 2: With ten plus I think ten plus Russian plus rushers. Yeah, yeah, 970 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 2: which a lot of that was Steel. Got to give Steel. 971 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 3: His credit still still has been solid. Yeah, still is 972 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 3: riding the roller coast with him too. You know, we're 973 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 3: in the second car. 974 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 2: There. 975 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 7: We've seen this in the past with the penalties, and 976 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 7: that's one thing that we have not McCarthy has not 977 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,240 Speaker 7: shown to be able to correct those things in the past. 978 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 7: We've never seen that until I mean the beginning of 979 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 7: the year. This year, it wasn't happening too much. But 980 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 7: now after this game, I'm I go, you know, but 981 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 7: you know, I. 982 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 6: Wonder if I wonder if a lot of the penalties 983 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 6: last night were a result of the fact, again, like 984 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 6: I said, coming off a short week, and when you 985 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 6: play in those games, it's kind of a game of survival. 986 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 6: You just kind of you just kind of keep fighting 987 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,919 Speaker 6: and you're not as focused, you're not as on your 988 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 6: on you know, on it, because you're you're really just battling, 989 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 6: like your body is not even ready for this and 990 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 6: you're just battling through it. 991 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 2: I wonder if that was a lot of stoppiness. I 992 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,479 Speaker 2: don't know. We will see next. 993 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:09,760 Speaker 3: Week if we'll see that's me talking not to Dallas Cowboy. 994 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, it's all fair. I think there's a 995 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 2: lot of things. 996 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 6: I think there are a lot of things you can question, 997 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 6: but the fact is, like there's there's ample reasonably that 998 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 6: maybe that was an aberration. Let's see what it looks 999 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 6: like next week when you have ten days of rest, 1000 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 6: you're still doing that after ten days of rest and 1001 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 6: some good practice time. 1002 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 2: Now we might have a problem. 1003 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 6: All right, We'll appreciate you guys joining us. We're going 1004 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 6: to be back next Monday and uh, well, I don't know. 1005 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 6: We'll find some stuff to talk about. There will be 1006 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 6: some interesting stuff that happens this weekend. We should do 1007 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 6: some picks today for the rest of the NFL. Give 1008 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 6: people something to look at. 1009 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 3: But I picked the Giant yesterday. 1010 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 2: I know you did. It's okay. It happened to next 1011 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 2: week like that sometimes. Yeah, you know, I appreciate you guys. 1012 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 3: It might have been that way next week, but. 1013 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 6: Brian brought us and I'm gonna see I'm Derek eagleson. 1014 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 6: It's been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 1015 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1016 00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,760 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 1017 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 2: Should h