1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: All right, folks, this is Chuck. It is in Selects 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: time March. That's what we're throwing back to today because 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: I picked out How Skateboarding Works. Boy, this is a 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: great one. This is a sort of vintage stuff you 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: should know all about skateboarding, full of stories about our 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: own skateboarding adventures as young posers that we both were. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: And uh, it's good stuff. We talked about the history, 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: we talk all about and you know, of course it's 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: about a thing that some people are experts, and so 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: we get a lot wrong, but we get it mostly right. 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: And it was a good episode. So please to enjoy 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: How Skateboards Work. Right now, welcome to Stuff you Should Know, 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: a production of My Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark and Charles W. 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant's with me. So stuff you should know. And Jerry, 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: of course is here, who just celebrated a birthday. Yeah, 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: happy birthday, Jerry and Valentine's Day run our Indian sweat 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: lodge that we call a recording booth. Yeah, man, it's hot. Yeah, 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: part of it's this thing. You want to turn this 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: off because this it really does put out a tremendous 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: amount of heat. Yeah, Josh's we have a lamp on 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: our table that we used to see. Well we can't 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: see any longer. Oh well fly I'm blind. Yeah that 24 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: did make it like three cooler immediately. Yeah, it's that lamp. 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: It's the lamp. And then like you know, just people 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: generating heat in here. Yeah, podcasters were a balmy bunch, 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: the blusters a herd of oxen in the corner. And 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't help. It has been the best intro ever. 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: I think you think so, I think so, you're not 30 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: being facetious. No, did you know the word facetious? What 31 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: do you got for me? Well, when I was younger, 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: I knew the word facetious. It was a word that 33 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: my dad used a lot, so I used it in 34 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: like regular conversation correctly. Yeah, okay, But I've never seen 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: it written out, or so I thought. And finally one 36 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: day I ran across in a book again this word 37 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: I kept coming up on, and I was like, what 38 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: is that word fastidious? Facidious, facious, And I was like, 39 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: that's facetious. I don't know that i've seen it spelled either. Yeah, 40 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: it looks like facinious, you know, it looks like facet 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: like a facet of a jewel or something, and then 42 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: E S I O U S. Yeah, there's no I 43 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: would have so bombed the spelling of that, right. But 44 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: the thing is, it's like I was using it correctly 45 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: in conversation, and I had seen it in books. I 46 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: just never put the two together until finally one day 47 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: it clicked and you had to get your tattoo changed. 48 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: Facetious across the back of your neck and in the heart. 49 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: All right, So, um, skateboarding. Yeah, about the same time 50 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: that I realized the word facetious what it was correctly spelled, ass, 51 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: I was skateboarding at the time, So that's how it 52 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: ties in. That was a little skateboarder for a long time. Yeah, 53 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: I was too. I did not. I'm not old enough 54 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: to where I saw all the different waves of skateboarding 55 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: of the four, but I saw I didn't see the 56 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: first one. That's pretty funny. That would mean I'm dead. Um. Now, 57 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: there's plenty of old borders out there, sure, Yeah, but 58 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: I was of the age where I definitely had the 59 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: um small sort of plastic board with the single little 60 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: tail on the back only and clay wheels. No, oh yeah, yeah, 61 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: Clay wheels. It seems to me like that those the 62 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: skateboards from from biblical times. Clay wheels. That's what I 63 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: think of when I see clay wheels. What do they 64 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: even look like? Uh? Just brown? You know? Were they 65 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: super dangerous? Well? Yeah, and if you've seen the great 66 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: documentary um Dogtown and z Boys they go over. It's 67 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: a really good doc by the way, like amazing footage 68 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: that they have, even good music and highly recommended over 69 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: the movie version The Lords of Dogtown was Val Kilmer 70 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: in that No, Heath Ledger was. He played the the mentor. 71 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: I can't remember his name. Skip the Zephyr crew, yes 72 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: skip skip skip went on to found Santa Monic Airline Skateboards. 73 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah he was. He stayed on. It's like 74 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: a big influence in skateboarding. Looks good. So anyway, I 75 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: just wanted to point out that I have branched a 76 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: few different Like I started with a little clay one 77 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: and then in high school is when I got the big, 78 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: huge fat skateboard when they were super obnoxious. Yeah, let's see, 79 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: that's when I came into skating. Eighty four had like 80 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: a nice Lance Mountain um, it was my first board, 81 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: my first board, remember the Nash Tough tops. No, there 82 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: was it was blank on the bottom, there were no graphics. 83 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: But on the top cut out in the grip tape 84 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: was like a star that looked kind of like a 85 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: saw blade, circular saw blade. And then the big difference 86 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: was the different colors of the board underneath, blue or 87 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: pink or yellow or what it was like neon green. Yeah, 88 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: you're a big fat one. Yeah, and looking back like 89 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: kind of corny. And I think after that is when 90 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: like true skater started being like, you know, we don't 91 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: really care that much about like awesome graphics, like we 92 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: just want a good board, good board. You wanted some 93 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: rib bones on the side. Do you remember those underneath? Yeah? Yeah, 94 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: But I don't think people like those now either. Oh no, 95 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: not anymore real skaters. No, that that the whole point 96 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: of those I think it was, you know, to let 97 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: you rail slide or whatever easier, but I think it 98 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: was also to protect those graphics too. It totally was 99 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: because I had a little big plastic bumper under the 100 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: tailpiece too, which is counterintuitive to the tricks. Yeah, but 101 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: I mean, like who cares about protecting the tail. It's weird. Yeah. 102 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: I was also a nosebone too. I was not never 103 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: very good. Oh I wasn't either. I don't mean to 104 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: give that. I mean I spent a lot of our 105 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: skating and I never got very good. I think I 106 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: pulled off one kickflip once, really once. That's good. I 107 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: thought it was pretty good too. That is the trick 108 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: that you most often see kids not landing driving down 109 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: the street. If you ever see a kid like I, 110 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: rarely see a successful kickflip just on the sidewalk. Oh yeah, 111 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: if you see somebody who pulls off a kick flip, 112 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: the chances are there somebody filming them because they know 113 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to pull off the 114 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: kick flip in l A. Actually I would see more, 115 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, obviously better skaters out there in New York. Yeah, 116 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: all right, skateboarding. Should we get going with little history? Yeah, 117 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: let's talk about the history of this. This this is 118 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: so close to my heart. Man. I fell down the 119 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: rabbit hole the day watching like old skate videos and 120 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: like checking out old Powell Perelta boards. That was my 121 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: jam was Powell. Well, we mentioned that there have been 122 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: four distinct waves of skateboarding starting in UH nine and 123 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: each new wave like it's it's just wayne and popularity 124 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: here and there, and then come back strong or and 125 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: stronger or due to either uh advances mainly in like 126 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: skateboard technology right and trickery, yes, and um parental acceptance 127 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: because it never really goes away. Skateboarding is either ever 128 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: since its inception, it's either been mainstream or else forced 129 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: underground and like practiced by juvenile delinquents who kind of 130 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: kept it going and advanced it quietly until it came 131 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: back into the mainstream and parents were like, Okay, you 132 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: guys can skate again. But the true origin of the skateboard, 133 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: the first one that came out, first commercially produced one 134 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: was in nineteen it's called the roller Derby skate Yeah. 135 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: And before that, you know, if you've seen the movie 136 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: Back to the Future, when Martin went fly rips the 137 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: little milk crate off the front of the homemade wooden scooter, 138 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: that was where skateboards really came from. You just you know. 139 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: It was a sort of a homemade deal with like 140 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: a peach crate as the front of your scooter, a 141 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: couple of handles, yes, steel wheels, from roller skates. Yeah, 142 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: and that was super dangerous, right. But like you say, 143 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: if you take the peach create off and take the 144 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: handles off, you have that two by four with the 145 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: roller skate wheels. And they don't know exactly who did it. 146 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: They think actually several people probably did it simultaneously Marty 147 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: mc in the right in the forties. They think surfers 148 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: in California did it. There are kids in France that 149 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: were seen doing it in the forties. So it kind 150 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: of spread. It happened, it arose independently around the world 151 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: at about the same time. That's called the zeitgeist, that 152 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: is my friend. So now we're in the nineties, early 153 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, and it was I mean it really took 154 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: off like a rocket in the first few years of 155 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties, like, uh, fifty million skateboards were sold 156 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: in those first three years and it was everywhere. Yeah, 157 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: it was like the hot new craze. Well it was 158 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: like also like hula hoops and things like that, Like 159 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: it was America was in a crazy mood, a craze moody, 160 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: like whatever the big thing was. Yeah, and skateboard fell 161 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: into that big time. The problem is, uh, they were 162 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: pretty dangerous. There wasn't a lot you could do with them. 163 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: Now they because again there's steel wheels there. It's basically 164 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: two by four on steel wheels, ride down the street 165 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: and you could fall off of it exactly. That was so, 166 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: and I think because of the safety concerns, overnight skateboarding 167 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: just went away in like nineteen five. It was over, 168 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: but it's still kind of stayed somewhat popular as a 169 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: thing to do among surfers. When the waves weren't breaking, um, 170 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: they would just kind of sidewalk surf is what they 171 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: called it. And they never really saw it as anything 172 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: bigger than a supplement to surfing. It was just kind 173 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: of like it wasn't its own thing until uh the sixties, 174 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: the late sixties or the early seventies, when clay wheels 175 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: came about. You could do a little more stuff. I think, well, 176 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: clay was better than the wheels, but still bad, right, 177 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: and that's hit a rock in the road your toast, 178 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: and like that's when people started dying from skateboards, which 179 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: kind of led to its decline again. Sure, and then 180 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: some surfers the Zephyr Crew are the ones who like 181 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: broke skateboarding out once and for all. Well, Yeah, thanks 182 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: to uh Frank Nasworthy's invention of the Eurothane wheel in 183 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two. Yeah, he founded Cadillac Wheels, and all 184 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it was like a smooth, like, steady, 185 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: silent experience on a skateboard for the first time. And 186 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: then you changed everything it did because it could grip. Um. 187 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't just that it wasn't rumbly any longer. It 188 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: was like the you're a thing could grip like concrete 189 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: or could go over a pavement, yeah, instead of just 190 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: stopping and um. Yeah, all of a sudden, there were 191 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: way more surfaces that could be skated. And that plus 192 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: the invention of the truck yeah, which is basically an 193 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: axle for your wheels that not only allows the wheels 194 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: to revolve more smoothly, especially when you add a set 195 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: of bearings, Yeah, but it also allows you to maneuver 196 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: to the left or the right, which is a big deal. 197 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: Kind of opens things up there, twisty. And then the 198 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: kicktail also changed everything. All these kind of came together 199 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: at about the same time. Yeah, And you mentioned the 200 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: Zephyr crew in nineteen seventy five that held the first 201 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: um uh basically competition in Delmar, California, and that's when 202 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: and if you've seen the documentary, it's pretty great. I 203 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: mean they had sort of the holdovers from the sixties 204 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: doing like handstands and all these sort of square, antiquated moves, 205 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: and then these little punks came in there and just 206 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: like toward the place up in like the judges didn't 207 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: know how to judge them at the time because they've 208 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: never seen anything like it. Yeah, it's pretty cool. It 209 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: was a pool. They were skating in pools right, well, 210 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: at least. Yeah, the pool thing came a little later 211 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: because they there was a big drought in the mid 212 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: seventies in southern California and water was actually in short supply, 213 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: so people would drain their pools or not refill them 214 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: or whatever for the summer, and so they started busting 215 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: in the backyards and skating and pools. Yeah, and they 216 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: would bring their own pumps and hoses to drain like 217 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: all the muck out entirely and then just like skate 218 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: that pool. And there was um at one of those pools, 219 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: a kid named Tony Alva who was in that Zephyr crew. 220 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: It was Tony Alva, J Adams, and Stacy Perelta, yeah, 221 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: among others. Yeah, right, but those are like the big three. 222 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: Tony I was your guy, right, Stacy Perelta, Oh, I 223 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: thought you were like a huge Tony Alva dude. Okay, No, 224 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: I respect for Tony Alba, but no, I was always 225 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: pal Perelta. Um. But Tony Alva at one of those pools, 226 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: kept going and going and pushing himself harder and harder, 227 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: and then one day he cleared the coping of the 228 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: pool and like caught air, yeah, with his hand at first. Oh, 229 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: he did like a hand plant. Yeah, that was how 230 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: that original it came about. But he did leave contact 231 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: with the pool, right, and no one had ever done that, 232 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: and everyone's like, and that was like the creation of 233 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: vert style skateboarding UM. And Alva went on at like 234 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: age nineteen to found his own skateboarding company. He was 235 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: the first one to use some Canadian maple Veneers, which 236 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: we'll talk about um. And it was like really innovative, 237 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: especially for a nineteen year old skate punk from southern California. Yeah, 238 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: they all were. Yeah, it's pretty amazing, like this collection 239 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: of kids were and it most of the ended up 240 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: being like very savvy, like wealthy businessmen. Yeah. And and 241 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: right after the del Mar competition, the Zephyr crew kind 242 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: of scattered to the wind and went in and found 243 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: purchase and and expanded skateboarding as a sport and as 244 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: a theme. And one of the things that they brought 245 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: with them from having been part of a crew is 246 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: to form their own crews um of people that they sponsored, 247 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: which made those people old pros. And those pros would 248 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: go on tour. And when those pros went on tour, 249 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: they were skating say Palm Pearl to skateboards and showing 250 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: local kids what could be done with the skateboard, and 251 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: those kids would go buy pal Parrel to skateboards and 252 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: go out and skate. And it that whole idea of 253 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: doing demos on tour with pros who were sponsored by 254 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: skateboarding companies really helped expand skateboarding in the eighties and 255 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: and created that third wave where skateboarding you just became it. Yeah, 256 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: I mean it was big in California and Florida. Like 257 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: my cousins were way into it in Florida early on, 258 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: but it really took off when kids like me and 259 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: Georgia and you and Ohio, we're skiing, you know, skiing 260 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: skating up my like steep driveway and trying to do 261 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: a little one eight turns going back down like it 262 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: was a wave. And I was, you know, it was 263 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: one of those silly little kids, like was so caught 264 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: up in it at first. Well, I had a kid 265 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: who lived across the tracks for me, who had a 266 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: half pipe, like a good half pipe that his dad 267 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: built him. UM, And that was part of that rise 268 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty three. I think that third wave where UM, 269 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: because I should say we didn't really mention UM. In 270 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: the late seventies, after Alva Skateboards was founded and and 271 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: pal Perelta was founded and all that, UM, skateboarding took 272 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: a hit mainstream wise, and it became associated with punks 273 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: and like just like like just punk kids, yeah, the 274 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: bad kids and who literally gave skateboarding a bad name. UM. 275 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: And so it was kind of driven underground again. And 276 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: then in the early eighties that experienced another rise and 277 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: its image kind of changed a little bit thanks to 278 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: the pal Perealta team, the Bones Brigade, who were actually 279 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: like they were all young kids and they were skateboarders 280 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: and all they cared about was skating. But they were 281 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: also like kind of clean cut as far as um, 282 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: as far as skateboarders went, like, they didn't do drugs, 283 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: at least they didn't publicly do drugs. Stacy Peralta was 284 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: a good kid, yeah, um, And so the kids that 285 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: he sponsored, like Tony Hawk, Mike McGill, Steve Caballero, Christian Hassi, 286 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: all those kids were good kids too, and they had 287 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of influence on the the skaters who 288 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: were into them. And so it kind of changed skating's 289 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: image a little bit too. It went from like being 290 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: something that like punk kids were into to something all 291 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: kids were into. Yeah it Um, it did go into 292 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: another four year lull towards the end of the seventies 293 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: before it started coming back in the mid eighties and 294 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: BMX had a lot to do with it that became 295 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: more popular, and um, you know, some skateboarder magazine shut 296 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: down or changed names to a different you know title, 297 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: and it, just like you said, it never went away 298 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: to the adherents of like like the true underground skateboarders, right, 299 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: It's always there's always somebody who's been skating at some 300 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: point ever since the ninet but in the mid eighties 301 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: is when it definitely came back, uh to the big 302 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: time mainstream. Yeah. And I can't tell if it's just 303 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: nostalgia on my part or else if that was when 304 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: it like really exploded, But like that was that was 305 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: my wheelhouse. Remember the videos Man Bones Brigade videos. Yeah, 306 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: and that was another thing too. That one of the 307 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: reasons why UM skateboarding was able to spread as a 308 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: sport or recreation or whatever UM was in part the 309 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: access to cheap VHS players because the Bones Brigade made 310 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: videos and people bought them, Like you could go to 311 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: your local skate shop and buy like a Bones Brigade 312 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: VHS tape for like twenty five or thirty bucks. You 313 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: kind of had to if you wanted to learn the 314 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: cool tricks, right, That's like the only place you could 315 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: see him at the time. Yeah, And then they were 316 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: produced in a way like you'd want to watch them 317 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: again and again, Like they think the fourth one, the 318 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: Search for Animal Chin, actually had like a plot and everything. Yeah, 319 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: So you would watch these things again and again. These 320 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: guys became like your heroes, and not only were you 321 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: watching them, do their tricks and and you know, watching 322 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: their videos, but like you also wore their t shirts, 323 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: like you got there deck and it said a lot 324 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: Like I had a Mike McGill deck. I really was 325 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: into Mike McGill. Yeah, I had a Lance Mountain deck. 326 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: Was really into Lance Mountain. And I like Tony Hawk 327 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: and everything, but I never had a Tony Hawk deck 328 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: like that. You identify with the skater based on your 329 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: personality type of yeah, and your style. Yeah, style had 330 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: a lot to do with it for sure. Uh. Then 331 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: there was another law in the early nineties because um 332 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: of the recession is what everyone seems to blame it on. 333 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I thought it was weird. I 334 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: don't remember that happening. But now that I think back 335 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: late high school, early college, there wasn't a lot of 336 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: like skate stuff going on in that world. And I 337 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,239 Speaker 1: wasn't skating at the time, but I was still just 338 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: young enough to pick up on that fourth wave. In 339 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: the early mid nineties. Well, thanks to the X games, 340 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: that's what really brought it back big time. And Tony 341 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: Hawk too, Yeah, he kept it going. His video games 342 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: definitely helped spread that fourth waves too. Um and I 343 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: guess it's never really gone away. Now is bigger than 344 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: ever skating. Yeah, yeah, Well another thing I think that 345 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: helped is that eighties nostalgic craze. Yeah, you know that 346 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: how the eighties inform everything today. Part of that was 347 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: that the I guess re exploring that third wave of 348 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: um skateboarding. So like if you're going into a Vand store, 349 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: they're all like old Powell decks are old like UM Vision, 350 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: Vision streetwear decks Vision, Yeah, and slime balls. Yeah. I 351 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: have and I still have a pair of Vans old schools, 352 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: the black and white checker No, no, no, those were 353 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: this I can't remember the name of those, the slip ons. Yeah, 354 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: the old schools are the black. They had the low 355 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: top in the high top that has the little sort 356 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: of white wave on the so yeah, but um, yeah 357 00:19:49,119 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: I still wear those shoes. Yeah. So chuck out. We're 358 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: going to talk about the skateboard itself. You promised. Yes, Um. 359 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: There are three main parts. You have the deck, you 360 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 1: have the trucks, and you have the wheels. And like 361 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: we said, the trucks connect the wheels to the deck 362 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: and they service the axles on the front and the back. 363 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: It's a little t shaped thing. Um, and I remember 364 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: definitely like taking a lot of time to get your 365 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: trucks the way you wanted. Some people like them really 366 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: loose and some people like them a little tighter. If 367 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: they're looser, you can turn more aggressively. Yeah, but you 368 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: also get wobble wheel, and you can get wobble wheel. 369 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I like my little tighter too. Yeah, 370 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: like you want to be able to turn, but you 371 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: also I like the stability of a tighter truck. Yeah. Um, 372 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: you've also got your wheels which have a set of bearings. Yea. 373 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: And the wheels haven't changed too much. They're still polyurethane. 374 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: They've changed in size a little bit. But it's the 375 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: same basic concept, right, And again it still depends on 376 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: your preference. Like you can buy a pre made skateboard 377 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: that's all put together, but as you know, any skate 378 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: worth its salt buy's the deck, buys the trucks, buys 379 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: the wheels that they want, puts it all together. You 380 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: might as well just go to like a department store 381 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: by your skateboard if you're just gonna buy it all together, yeah, 382 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: with a little outfit that comes with it. If you're 383 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: skater one on one out yeah. Um. So the last part, 384 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: arguably the most important part, well one of three most 385 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: important parts is the deck. Yeah, and the deck has 386 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: evolved over time. We talked about how the tail kicked 387 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: up in the early seventies and yeah, that allowed a 388 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: lot of like tricks. Um. And the if you look 389 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: at a skateboard from the top or the bottom were 390 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: you're looking at the outline, that's called the plan. And 391 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: then if you look at how the tailor the nose 392 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: is kicked up, and then the concave to the interior 393 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: of the skateboard, which allows more control and stability. Um, 394 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: that's called the concave. So you've got the plan in 395 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: the concave and those are part of the deck. They 396 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: informed the shape and size of the deck and Um. 397 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: Then on top of that deck you have the grip tape, 398 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: which I thought that that would have been a recent innovation. 399 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: Apparently grip tape was invented all the way back in 400 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: for scooters. They did it back then, and a guy 401 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: named Ferdinand's switz Offer invented it nice. Yeah, and they 402 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: changed the name from switz offfer tape to grip tape. Um. Yeah, 403 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: and in the eighties to the the thing now is 404 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: your whole board is covered with grip tape. In the 405 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: mid eighties, I remember I just had like there were 406 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: graphics on top, so I said, tape at the front 407 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: and the back, and it really didn't make any sense, 408 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: like you the whole thing should be grippy. Yeah, but 409 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: I mean, like again, the Powell graphics are pretty awesome. 410 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: Steve Cavallero head that your dragon or like at least 411 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: you had the bones. Guy. Uh. The decks are not 412 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: a solid piece of wood. It's actually thin layers um 413 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: of veneer and they are laminated and then you spread 414 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: adhesive and you just you know, like with a lot 415 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: of furniture, it is just many layers of thin wood 416 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: compressed together into a mold, and it's a hydraulic press 417 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: that just smashes it all together until you've got your 418 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: really solid piece of wood. Yeah, and it's definitely a 419 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: lot stronger than just the sum of its parts, yeah, 420 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: for sure, from being molded plywood. Um. And then you 421 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: cut that plan out yeah uh. And then after that 422 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: you spray it with some sealing because you don't want 423 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: to accidentally all into a puddle or a fountain or 424 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: something like that and have your boardwarp or purposefully right 425 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: allie into a fountain and then the graphics are put 426 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: on and then the grip tape. I get a sense 427 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: that graphics aren't like super cool anymore? Am I wrong? 428 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: That it's sort of like it's a matter of I 429 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: think it's a matter of preference. It definitely isn't like 430 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: in the mid eighties it was like they were so obnoxious. 431 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, remember the gator one m It was like, um, 432 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: kind of like, uh, I guess a vertigo thing, but 433 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: it was made out of different spikes. You would recognize 434 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: it immediately. He saw. Yeah, I definitely had the stickers 435 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: on my car, and like it was a thing. We 436 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: had a shop in a Stone Mountain called surfs up 437 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: in Stone Mountains. Stone Mountain. Yeah, that was obviously open 438 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: for like, you know, four and a half years, and 439 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: they had like skate gear in surfer gear and for 440 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: all us like you know in in inland living people. Yeah, 441 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: it was like you used to have to initially at 442 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: the early wave in the early eighties, like you had 443 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: to go to like a ski shop because skiing was 444 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: already established, and then like they'd open up a little 445 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: section for skateboards, and then eventually got a little bigger, 446 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden there were actual skate shops. 447 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: All right. That is the actual uh skateboard in all 448 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: its three parts. Um, And I guess we need to 449 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: talk about how to ride this thing. Um, Yeah, because 450 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: the fourth part is you. That's right. Although it looks 451 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: cool just hanging on your wall. If you want to 452 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: impress the ladies, sure, like check out my skateboard. Yeah, 453 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: that was all into that, Um. But it is like surfing, 454 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: and the reason they compare it to surfing is that 455 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: it's sort of like a smaller version. You have the 456 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: side stands, just like on a surfboard. And if you 457 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: heard our surfing podcast, you heard us talk about regular 458 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: foot and goofy foot. Is there a mango foot on surfing? Tea, No, 459 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: because you're not pushing off of any Um. Regular foot 460 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: is your left foot forward, and uh, you're using your 461 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: right foot to push. Goofy foot is the opposite of that, 462 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: your right foot forwards. You're pushing with your left just 463 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: does not feel right now. And I was a mango 464 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: foot and I never knew it until I looked this up. Um, 465 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: that is when you're left foot is forward. I'm sorry, 466 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: your your right foot is on the board, but you're 467 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: using your left foot to push and your foot is 468 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: at the rear not the front. Yeah, and I just 469 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: that just feels supernatural to me. But um, not supernatural, 470 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:19,719 Speaker 1: but very natural. But um, apparently mango foot is is. 471 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: I think you're sort of frowned upon as a person, 472 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: but by real skaters. If your mom will be like, layoff, 473 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: I've watched two. You can't even kick flip, so you 474 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: pay attention to how you stand. That's what you say 475 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: to people if they give you guff about being mongo foot. Well, 476 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: the problem with mongo foot is you have to shift 477 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: your feet a little bit once both are back on 478 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: the board. And uh, I guess you can't like bust 479 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: a move immediately with a trick. Uh. Which matters if 480 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: you're like competing for half a million dollars, but not 481 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: if you're like on your way down to the seven eleven. Yeah. 482 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: If you've never skated before and you want to try it, um, 483 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: I would advise to not start with mongo foot at 484 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: all if you don't know any better, because you know 485 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: you won't be made fun of right. You know, maybe 486 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: is that what kept you back? Maybe you'd be like, right, now, 487 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: that was what it was. But I've never seen this before. 488 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: It makes sense if they if you don't know which 489 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: foot you're prominent with, although I would say if you're 490 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: right footed, you're probably gonna be a regular foot, and 491 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: if you're goofy foot footed, you might be goofy foot. 492 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: I think it has to do with handedness. So like, 493 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: if you're right handed, your left foot is gonna be forward. 494 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna push with your right foot. If you're left handed, 495 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna be goofy foot. Where your right foot's forward, 496 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: you push with your left foot. I think you push 497 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: with your foot in the rear of the dominant hand 498 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: side or foot side, right, Yeah, but I think your 499 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: dominant hand is typically your dominant foot as well. Yeah, 500 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: it seems right. And then if if if you if 501 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: somebody came up and pushed you, Yeah, that's the test. 502 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: The foot you put back to steady yourself, that's the 503 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: one you want to use to push with before you 504 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: crow hop and punch them in the fair what what 505 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: the h man? Yeah, So I've never heard that. That's 506 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: a little trick you can do. Yeah, And I guess 507 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: you're not maybe surprised somebody, because if you think about 508 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: it too much, like all right, push me, you try 509 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: to put both feetback at once and you end up 510 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: just hopping. Uh. So there are a few different quite 511 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: a few different things you can do. Back in the day, 512 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: it was all about like the downhill slalom, which is boring. No, 513 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean, super speed is not boring. Scary it is, 514 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: she said. I I suffered a pretty decent head injury once. Yeah, 515 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: I got the wobble wheel going downhill, and I was like, 516 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: I got a bail out, and right before I went 517 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: to go jump on the grass, the boar went whoop, 518 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: and I went forward and landed on my head and 519 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: skidded on my head entirely helm at all. Right, No, yes, 520 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: it's like right, and uh yeah it was. It was something. Yeah, 521 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: I remember I have not been the same sense. Most 522 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: neighborhoods have one hill you know that you don't dare 523 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: go down. And my best friend, his name was Chuck. 524 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: Actually at the time in mid high schools, have been 525 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: very confused. He had a hill like that, and I 526 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: remember standing at the top of it and thinking there's 527 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: no way I should be doing this and getting on 528 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: the skateboard and trying to go down, and like you said, 529 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: bailing out into the grass was always Uh, if you're 530 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood a nice way to go about things. 531 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: Is that what you did? Uh? I think I went 532 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: all the way down actually, but yeah, it's a little scary, 533 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, no way I do that now. I remember 534 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: a car was driving past and stopped and went, oh 535 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: my god, are you okay? I was like, wow, is 536 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: that bad? Huh? And they finished their beer and drove 537 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: on through their can abby. So you also have freestyle, 538 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: which is um doing tricks and things on a flat surface. Um. 539 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: And we're gonna get into the tricks a little bit 540 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: in a minute, which if you are like, what's a freestyle, 541 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: it sounds stupid. Look up Rodney Mullen or parawellnder Yeah 542 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: on YouTube. Check out some of their especially their eighties 543 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: stuff the early mid eighties. They were doing some pretty 544 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: cool stuff, and some of it is like that stuff 545 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: that you were saying the California dudes doing, like handstands 546 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: on moving skateboard or just the three sixties, like standing 547 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: in one place with a nose in the air, but 548 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: then they would take their hands and like flip their 549 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: board sixty degrees eight times and land on it. They're 550 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, pretty great stuff. And it takes creativity 551 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: for sure. It's definitely like choreography and a skateboard. Well, 552 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: and I have a feeling you're about to say vert skating. 553 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't, but I will. Are you ready, they didn't 554 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: give rise to vert skating. Skating well, vert skating, Yeah, 555 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: it kind of that came out of those dogtown guys 556 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: in the swimming pools. Yeah, because a pool is considered 557 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: vert skating. Vert is short for vertical, right, because you're 558 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: skating on vertical services like a pool or a bowl 559 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: or a half pipe or a quarter pipe or whatever. 560 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: Or if you're like me to milk crates in a 561 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: piece of plywood, did you do that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 562 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: the Josh pipe it was not that stable. Uh, it's 563 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: a vertical is when people started leaving and catching air, 564 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: leaving the side of whatever surface they were on, which 565 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: was really exciting at the time. Yeah. I can't imagine 566 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: having been there, and it's only gone up and up 567 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: since then, you know. Uh, and then you've got street skating, 568 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: which um is if you've seen uh, ladies and dudes 569 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: on the street like jumping up the air onto a 570 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: park bench and grinding that park bench or a railing, 571 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: or smashing themselves trying to grind a railing. That is 572 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: uh street skating. Or if you've ever played the Tony 573 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: Hawk video game, did you ever play that? Yeah, the 574 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: first one. Yeah, if you play that enough. People who 575 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: have played that enough, now I'm talking about you start 576 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: walking around in life and everything you see you think, oh, man, 577 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: I could grind that so hard if I could really skate. Yeah, 578 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: not in real life, um, but yeah, so so street 579 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: skating kind of. I guess you could say it combines 580 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: freestyle with obstacles, using obstacles in the um built environment. 581 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: That's street skating. Yeah, And that's the stuff that usually 582 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: you'll see like frowned upon by businesses and people thinking 583 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: like these hooliguns are out there right, which skateboarding is 584 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: not a crime man, although if you use the skate, 585 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: go to jail. But to combat all that crime stuff, 586 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: a lot of cities built skate parks in the seventies. 587 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: What they didn't realize is that, um, when those kids 588 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: fell and cracked their heads, their parents were gonna see. 589 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: And so all of a sudden, the insurance premiums four 590 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: skate parks went through the roof and all the cities 591 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: shut them down, and they went away for a very 592 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: long time. And then I guess there was some changes 593 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: in in liability laws that allowed skate parks to come back. 594 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: And so now skate parks are back, but they're very 595 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: frequently put up by cities. They're like, we'll build a 596 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: skate park, and they don't ask the skaters how to 597 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: build a skate park. So they build like a terrible skatepark, 598 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: and the skaters don't use it, and the cities are like, 599 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: use skate punk kids use the skatepark, and they're like, 600 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: your skate park sucks, and they're like, no it doesn't, 601 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: and yes it does in this gate away um or 602 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: they do it well and it's too crowded. Well. If 603 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: there's one thing I know is that for every skate 604 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: park in any city, there will be a group of 605 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: skaters saying this place sucks. I remember when we shot 606 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: at a skate park. Remember these local kids and it 607 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: was a new skate park. One of them, that one 608 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: kid was pretty good. Yeah he's all right, but Um, 609 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: I s him. I was like this is great, right, 610 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: this is new and it's indicator, and like they're like 611 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: it sucks. Yeah. Well then that one kid lied. He 612 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: said he lived from like a Ceder part of Atlanta. 613 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: Hit us up for bus fair and somebody. Yeah, one 614 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: of the crew saw him like go into his house 615 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: like a block away in this very nice neighborhood Decatur 616 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: and hide his skateboard in his backyard. Um, if you 617 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: and they can be different, they can be like uh 618 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: smaller half pipes and ramps and rails and things and 619 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: obstacles to My recommendation if you ever visit l A 620 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: is to go to Venice Beach to their newish skate 621 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: park there, and it is like the Cubment Bowl. It's 622 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: like a huge series of connected swimming pools. And this 623 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: is where you'll see some like you'll see the old 624 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: school guys that aren't leaving the bowl, that are just 625 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: like carving it up as like sweet as pudding. And uh, 626 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: then you've got guys that really know what they're doing, 627 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: like catching air and doing you know, three sixties and 628 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: and there's a bulldog that rides a skateboard there too. 629 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: I've heard of that. You should see him. It's quite amazing. 630 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure it is like you can't catch air or whatever, 631 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: but just the fact that a dog is using a 632 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: skateboard is pretty awesome. So should we talk about some tricks. 633 00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: Let's well, almost every trick on Earth is based on 634 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: the ali the trick named after Alan Alie gelfand he 635 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: invented it in the early nineteen seventies, mid nineteen seventies, 636 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: And that is basically when you jump up in the air, 637 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: and if you've seen skateboarders do it, you might wonder, 638 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: how on earth do they jump up in the air 639 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: and have that skateboard seemingly attached to their feet. I 640 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: never was very good at it, I really no, I 641 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: could all be pretty good. I was more of a 642 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: sidewalk surfer than like a trick aerial guy. Yeah, you know, 643 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: well I wasn't a trick aerial guy either, but I 644 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: could Allie. You know, well, explain the Alie. Oh well, okay, 645 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: so the Alie is Let's say you're on your board 646 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: and you're on a flat surface. You kick your the 647 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: tail of the skateboard down really hard against the ground, 648 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 1: and uh what this does? This this um exerted force 649 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: allows you to overcome the force of gravity. And since 650 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: you're jumping at the same time you jump into the air, 651 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: um you're taking off your own downward pressure on the board. 652 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: To the front of the board, the nose goes up 653 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: high in the air, and the fact that you slapped 654 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: the tail against the ground means the tail comes up 655 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: into the air until it's even with the nose and 656 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: the board's flat in the air and it looks like 657 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: it's attached to your feet if you do it right. Yeah, 658 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden you and the board are 659 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: four ft into the air and then you come back 660 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: down and you landed. That's an Alie. It's funny you 661 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: mentioned four feet the world record. Danny Wainwright of h 662 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: I think he's from England, Uh recorded a forty four 663 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: and a half inch Ali. Well, it's pretty amazing. Yeah, 664 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: but it was that like standing still. No, you know, 665 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, they just set up something to 666 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: jump over. You keep adding layers until you know you 667 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: can't jump any higher, and then you've got like, you know, 668 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: ten feet to get going, and then just pop up 669 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: and it looks like it's attached to his feet and 670 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: the allie is so integral to so many other um, 671 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: so many other tricks that it's it's almost not a 672 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: trick any longer in and of itself. It's like the 673 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: basic mechanic of whatever other trick that follows. But like, 674 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: you pretty much can't do anything without ali ing. And 675 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,240 Speaker 1: that's how those those guys originally caught air convert skating 676 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: was to ali off of the coping the top, and 677 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: then you would catch some serious air because you already 678 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: had that extra momentum behind you as well. St Okay, 679 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: we're back, Chuck. We're gonna talk about the names of tricks, 680 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: different types of tricks, all right. So, if you've ever 681 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: watched the X Games and you hear the sort of 682 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: annoying announcers admittedly talking using all these words you've never heard, 683 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna explain what some of these words mean just 684 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: to help you follow along a little bit. That's right. Um, 685 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: you might hear speak out front side there or whatever. 686 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: Front side is when you're facing the obstacle and performing 687 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: a trick, as opposed to backside, when you're back is 688 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: to the obstacle. Yeah, Like you're basically going backwards on 689 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: the skateboard. That's right. Yeah, um Let one eight is 690 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: pretty basic trick, but it's um, well, it's where you 691 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 1: ali and you and the board turn a hundred eighty 692 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: degrees to face in the opposite direction. Yeah, Like you 693 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: go up the ramp and then you turn the mid 694 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: air and you come right back down. You can also 695 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: do it on a flat surface, or you could one 696 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: eighty onto like a park bench or something and trained 697 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: it whatever. Um, but the one eighty also kind of 698 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: forms a basis for a lot of other tricks, especially 699 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: vert tricks like three sixties and five forties all the 700 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: way up to ten eighties and you can grab the 701 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: side of your board and just do all sorts of 702 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: cool stuff. Yeah. Tony Hawk famously completed the first nine 703 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: hundred degree turn and for many years they thought that 704 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: was it until a twelve year old named Tom Shar 705 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,439 Speaker 1: in two thousand twelve pulled off the first ten eighty 706 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: and uh, they filmed it. It It wasn't in competition. The 707 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: first one in competition was a guy named Mitch Brusco. 708 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: He did at the X Games, and that is three 709 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: full rotations in the air. Uh, And obviously you have 710 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: to land X successfully for it to count. And to 711 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: live and live and uh, it's amazing, man, three full 712 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: rotations in the air. These dudes are getting up super 713 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: super high. Now, Uh, you ever heard the word fakey? 714 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: I have? Fakey is um basically where you remain in 715 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: your regular stance, but you're going backwards. Yeah, so you're 716 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: doing like, um, you're going into a backside trick. That's right. Uh. 717 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: Pop shove it is when you do an ali with 718 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: the one eight, but your body isn't moving, you're just 719 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 1: uh popping up in the air and flipping the skateboard 720 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: around underneath you and then landing on it. And then 721 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: we talked about grinding. Um, there's a couple of ways 722 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: you can grind. A true grind is when you're on 723 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: the actual axles, so you've gotta be going forward. Or 724 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: you can go sideways and grind on your board, and 725 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: that's called a board slide or a rail slide. And 726 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: then the kick flip, of course, is the one that 727 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: you see people busting butt on which I've pulled off once. 728 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: That's right, the famous Josh kick flip. And then of 729 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: course chuck. There's the manual, which is another way to 730 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: say a wheelie. I was good at those front side 731 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: manual backside manual I could do, Like I was not good. 732 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: I think that's becoming clear. Like I thought it was 733 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: cool if I could do a little wheelie and do 734 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: a little one a D turn on the ground. Yeah, no, 735 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm with you, man, I understand I wasn't very good either, 736 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: But Chuck I had years of enjoyment. Twice third Wave 737 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 1: and fourth wife loved skateboarding, love it like I just 738 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: love skateboarding. I think everybody should go out on skateboard 739 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: all the time. You're never going to be one of 740 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: those old men that's like, quit grinding my rail. Oh 741 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: well yeah, if I had a nice rail out trying, 742 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: I'd be like, ghet the hell off of my rail, 743 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: But I I would still it's not like a hate 744 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: skateboarding in general. Yeah, but you might chip in and 745 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 1: help build a half pipe in your neighborhood, maybe away 746 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: from my really nice rail. Right, that's a good idea. Uh, 747 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: If you do want to try skateboarding, obviously these days, 748 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: with the safety consciousness of people, you should get a 749 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: helmet and some kneepads and elbow pads and if you're smart, 750 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,919 Speaker 1: maybe some risk guards, although that might not be cool. 751 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: Well no, actually, like there's a that's another reason skate 752 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: parks off and go and uses because there's local ordinances 753 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,720 Speaker 1: that say you have to wear a helmet and pads, 754 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: and of course skaters are like that sucks. Yeah, but 755 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: the wrist guards. That's a common injury because you'll you'll 756 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: often go to brace yourself with your arms when you fall, 757 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: and they say to try and fall in your fleshy 758 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: parts of your body, but you're really kind of at 759 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: the whim of where gravity takes you. I think at 760 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: that point, well, you know, that was another reason I 761 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: think I wasn't ever that good, just because back when 762 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: I was a kid, they were all fleshy parts. It's 763 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: hard to get air. We should have been safe. It 764 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: was uh, you got anything else? No, man, that's it, 765 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: uh skateboarding. If you want to know more about it, 766 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: you should type skateboarding into the word search bar at 767 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com. That's the first thing you 768 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,760 Speaker 1: should do. You should follow that up by watching skate 769 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: videos and going to buy a skateboard and go skating. 770 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: Yeah you know I want to get along board now? 771 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's the old man style. Yeah, just cruising, 772 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: get on a flat surface and use it carving the 773 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: concrete waves a mode of transportation. Yeah, are you gonna 774 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: learn to do handstands on it? Uh? Let's see. Since 775 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: I said handstands and then laugh, that means it's time 776 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: for listener mail. I'm gonna call this Josh, what are 777 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,439 Speaker 1: you hiding? And I'm glad to get this mail because 778 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: I knew I wasn't crazy. So let's just get into this. 779 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: You know. Can I say I don't even remember this 780 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: most recent reference? All right, well, let's just explain here 781 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: what's going on. This is from Ben. Ben says, Hey, guys, 782 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: I've been living like a trog globitic trug gloodt for 783 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: the past six years because I just discovered your amazing 784 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: podcast a few weeks ago. As Penance. I've been listening 785 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: to UH several per day and have since gone to 786 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: over one hundred. So he's binging. He said, just noticed 787 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: something in UH. During the Ken Cats Scuba Dive episode 788 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: not one of our best on August twelve, two eight, 789 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: Josh goes into detail about he was a certified scuba 790 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,399 Speaker 1: diver and that the one time he was in open water, 791 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: he not only got se sick, but also got a 792 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: slight case of the bens due to surfacing too quickly. Then. Uh. 793 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: In two thousand thirteen and the Diving Bell episode, Chuck says, 794 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: I thought I remembered many months ago you mentioned something 795 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: about getting the bens, and Josh quickly and confidently retorted, 796 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: I've never had the bends. So I know this is 797 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: almost five years later, but it begs the question, what 798 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: are you trying to hide? Josh? You have answered some 799 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: of the greatest, long lasting questions in history. Uh, but 800 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: this is one of the few times where you simply 801 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 1: added another mystery into the pile of the enigma and 802 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 1: conspiracy that is our world. So have you ever had 803 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: the bensh? So? Uh? In I was skating down the 804 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,959 Speaker 1: hill and I fell in him my head. Uh yeah. 805 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: I would call it a mild case of the bens. Okay, 806 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 1: So you just don't remember denying you had the Ben's okay, 807 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: all right, well there's your answer. Yeah. Well, I not 808 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: only do I not remember denying having the bends. When 809 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: I denied having the bends, I had forgotten that I'd 810 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: had the bends before. And again, this is a very 811 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: mild case, but it wasn't just seasickness. It was directly 812 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,720 Speaker 1: related to having just spent half an hour under water, 813 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, all right, so I would call that a 814 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: case the bens. I think that clears it up. Then 815 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: that is from Ben Helms from Mount Shasta, California. And 816 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure Ben will be unsatisfied with your explanation of Ben. 817 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: I just forgot. That's pretty much it. Yeah, let's see. 818 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: If you want to get in touch with Chuck and I, 819 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: you can tweet to us at s y s K podcast. 820 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: You can join us on Facebook dot com slash Stuff 821 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: you Should Know. 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