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Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Sean Coleman. Hop wherever you are and wherever

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Speaker 1: you are listening, you are having a magnificent start to

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Speaker 1: your week. I told Stephen before the show had occurred,

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Speaker 1: it's been a long week so far, totally Tuesday. But

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Speaker 1: you know what that means. It's time to talk brace baseball.

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Speaker 1: And I don't care whatever bad week that you're having,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a good week of bad week, a week

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Speaker 1: from hell, or a week from heaven, it's always good

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Speaker 1: to talk brace baseball with you. Steven.

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Speaker 2: Hope you've been well, Sir Sean, what's up, brother, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's always good to do these with you. Man. You know,

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Speaker 2: this is a fun week. This is kind of the

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Speaker 2: week where everybody kind of tweets out. The spring training

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Speaker 2: down to to get ready. You know, pictures and catchers

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Speaker 2: report in about a week, you know, all the all

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Speaker 2: the spring training hats got released. I know that's a

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Speaker 2: niche thing, but one of my favorite things to do,

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Speaker 2: honestly is like this time of year, I usually dropped

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Speaker 2: do that this week, which is the tail Tales. So

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Speaker 2: I always try I always trying to get the Braves

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Speaker 2: because obviously and then I just looked for best designs.

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Speaker 2: I never buy any Mets gear or Phillies gear, just

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Speaker 2: The Brewers always have really good that logo is amazing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: bought Tampa's, I bought Pittsburgh's, and I bought one more

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Speaker 2: braves Milwaukee Tampa pitch No. Four. Yeah, I did four.

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Speaker 2: I bought four of them. So I'm a big spring

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Speaker 2: So but yeah, you know, we're we're we're kind of here,

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Speaker 2: we're you know, football season. We got one more game

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Speaker 2: obviously Super Bowls on Sunday, and then after that, you know,

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Speaker 2: my favorite time of year personally, So yeah, excited. We

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Speaker 2: got some stuff to talk about. To now we're gonna

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Speaker 2: the most more important guys on the roster. Kind of

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Speaker 2: season he's gonna have. But yeah, it's always good to

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Speaker 2: do these with you man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, same here and yeah, no, the Diamondbacks, they always

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Speaker 2: I almost bought that one. It was a little it

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Speaker 2: I think I bought there last year. I have to

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Speaker 2: go back and look. But yeah, spring training hats are fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they typically do a good job when it comes

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Speaker 1: to spring training hats. But as you mentioned, I mean know,

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Speaker 1: we got plenty to discuss Hammer Territory, probably the part

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Speaker 1: of the Foul Territory family of podcasts. And listen, we're

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Speaker 1: a good chance Alexandopolis themselves said we could go into

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Speaker 1: content for you when it comes to special guests. For instance,

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Speaker 1: various people such as Grant McCauley, Ben Badler, Aj Prazinski.

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Speaker 1: You know, recently Brad and Scott talked to Kyle Glazer,

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Speaker 1: who covers the Padres on various topics. So if you

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Speaker 1: there's plenty of great content out there Hammer Territory Pile

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Speaker 1: of the Foul Territory Family podcast. But Steven, before we

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Speaker 1: another former Brave landed in an interesting spot when it

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Speaker 1: came to Ramon Loreano signing a one year, four million

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Speaker 1: The one thing that stood out with Loriano when he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're kind of that time of year where a

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Speaker 2: last year it was an unusual situation with the number

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Speaker 1: gonna have fun with the good. Well, check the boxes

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Speaker 1: with the bad, but we're gonna emphasize the good. We

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Speaker 1: acknowledged that last year was a bit of a struggle

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Speaker 1: at times with Michael Harris the second but now let's

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Speaker 1: break down why we discuss him being a breakout candidate

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Speaker 1: and having the potential of a superstar and with Michael Harris,

435
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Speaker 1: the's no better place to start than his defense. And

436
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Speaker 1: I know, when it comes to baseball, defense at times

437
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: is hard to quantify, but Michael Harris the Second really

438
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Speaker 1: stands out as one of the few major league defenders

439
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Speaker 1: who can check all the boxes himself when it comes

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Speaker 1: to playing good defense. If he is facing the Phillies,

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Speaker 1: there is about a ninety seven percent chance Michael Harris

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Speaker 1: the Second every third game is going to make a

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Speaker 1: play that's gonna be worthy of Defensive place of the

444
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Speaker 1: Year or Defensive Player of the Year. Look at his

445
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Speaker 1: play a couple of years in the twenty twenty three

446
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 1: playoffs and on the Drive by Nick Castianos. Look at

447
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: the amazing play that he had last year late in

448
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: the season when of the best plays, one of the

449
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: best home run robs we've ever seen. But it's not

450
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Speaker 1: just about the spectacular plays. If you want to talk

451
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Speaker 1: about an overall defender when it comes to center field,

452
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Speaker 1: I know that Michael Harris the Second is not yet

453
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Speaker 1: won a Gold Glove, Stephen, But when you want to

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Speaker 1: talk about an all encompassing defensive talent, he has every

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Speaker 1: elite tool that you would want in a defensive outfielder.

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Speaker 1: There are not many who are better than Michael Harris

457
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Speaker 1: the second covering ground in the outfield.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna win. I mean, I don't give a

459
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Speaker 2: shit about go gloves. Quite honestly, I would tell people

460
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Speaker 2: not to care about them either, because those awards are

461
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 2: have gotten crazier and crazier. But he is going to

462
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Speaker 2: win all the awards at some point. He's that good defensively,

463
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Speaker 2: really strong alarm, gets incredible jumps, tons of range. I mean,

464
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Speaker 2: he he does remind me of Andrew, like I'm old

465
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Speaker 2: enough to remember. I I'm not quite old enough to

466
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Speaker 2: remember like the very beginning of Andrew's career, but I'm

467
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Speaker 2: old enough to remember like the prime of it, and

468
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: like he just always got unbelievable jumps and he was

469
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Speaker 2: just on balls that no one else could get to.

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Speaker 2: And then Michael Harris it's very similar, Like he gets

471
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Speaker 2: incredible jumps. You know, it's one of those things. It's

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Speaker 2: just pure talent and instinct. Like it's hard. It's a

473
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Speaker 2: hard thing to teach. You can teach guys how to

474
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Speaker 2: be fast, you can teach our guys, you know, the

475
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 2: perfect router or whatever, but jumps, like it's very hard

476
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Speaker 2: to just teach somebody how to them get It's always

477
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Speaker 2: been Akunya's problem. He's not a natural at He's not

478
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Speaker 2: natural that jumps. Michael is an unbelievable natural just knowing

479
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Speaker 2: exactly where the ball is gonna be and immediately heading

480
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: that direction as soon as you know, the ball hits

481
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Speaker 2: the bat, and he's an unbelievable defender, and that's where

482
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Speaker 2: so much of his value lies right now. There is

483
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Speaker 2: tons of potential on that bat, however, and that's that's

484
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Speaker 2: what's exciting about Michael is that, you know, as he

485
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Speaker 2: gets older and older and older and gets into you know,

486
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: late twenties, thirties, you know, center field defense is one

487
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Speaker 2: of those things that regresses once you get, you know,

488
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Speaker 2: to that age. But his bat is so good that

489
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: it's going to carry him into his thirties. So like,

490
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Speaker 2: he has the profile of somebody that can play for

491
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Speaker 2: twenty years and still be productive because he's got the

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Speaker 2: defense now, but he's got enough potential in the bat

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Speaker 2: where he could have the bat in his thirties and

494
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Speaker 2: just be an unbelievable player for fifteen twenty years. And

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Speaker 2: that's not hyperbole. That's what I think Michael. I think

496
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: Michael could be that level hitter where he's a great

497
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Speaker 2: player for more than a decade because he's he does

498
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 2: have the profile that matches that. So yeah, his defense

499
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Speaker 2: is incredible. I mean, he's made some unbeliev I mean

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Speaker 2: the play he made the playoffs to end that game.

501
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Speaker 2: You know, he robbed the home run last year in Philadelphia.

502
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Speaker 2: You're right, he does seem to pick on the Phillies,

503
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Speaker 2: which is fine by me. But yeah, one of the

504
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: I mean, he'll win at some point. He's going to

505
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Speaker 2: win a Gold Glove or a Fielding Bible, whatever, whichever

506
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Speaker 2: fielding award is your cup of tea. At some point,

507
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Speaker 2: Michael Harris will win them all.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of them all, I know that I've used the

509
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Speaker 1: phrase checked the boxes a bit too much in one podcast,

510
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Speaker 1: but it just seems perfect to describe to me what

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Speaker 1: is the most exciting, most intriguing part of Michael Harris's

512
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four season, and going back to, you know,

513
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Speaker 1: his career as a whole so far, one thing that

514
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Speaker 1: I think is important to acknowledge is that for the

515
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Speaker 1: stretch run of the season, Michael Harris has shown that's

516
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Speaker 1: really when he's at his best. His rookie year from

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Speaker 1: the start of August through the middle of September, it

518
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Speaker 1: was only Aaron Judge who was the most more value.

519
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: He was the most second. He was the second most

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00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: valuable outfitter in the game outside of Aaron. Just what

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to say in that six week stretch, that's

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Speaker 1: why he won Rookie of the Year. But last year,

523
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Speaker 1: you think about it, Austin Riley goes down, we start

524
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Speaker 1: to have issues with our pitching. Other members of the

525
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Speaker 1: team go down due to various injuries. We needed Michael

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Speaker 1: Harris the Second to step up into the leadoff spot

527
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Speaker 1: just because he was one of our most talented hitters.

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Speaker 1: We got to the point last year where Michael Harris

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Speaker 1: had to lead off because he had one of the

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Speaker 1: highest upside of hitters in the lineup. And it's how

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Speaker 1: he did when we needed him to step up in

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Speaker 1: that leadoff role that seems so encouraging. Now, I don't

533
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Speaker 1: think that Michael Harris the Second is the leadoff hitter

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Speaker 1: as of yet. He's got the speed, he's got the

535
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Speaker 1: bat potential, but he doesn't have the discipline. He doesn't

536
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Speaker 1: have the plate discipline as yet. Maybe it comes in time.

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Speaker 1: But when we talk about the concerns that we have

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Speaker 1: with Michael Harris hitting in a prime spot in the lineup.

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Speaker 1: Last year, he had a one thirty two w or

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Speaker 1: a one thirty two w RC plus in the second

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Speaker 1: half of the Sea or in August in September from

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Speaker 1: the leadoff spot. Can he hit left handers two o

543
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Speaker 1: nine WRC plus against left handers over the last two

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Speaker 1: months of the season. Can he take on a big

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Speaker 1: offensive load and still be able to play elite defense.

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Speaker 1: His production out of the lead y'all spot and the

547
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Speaker 1: consistency out of the lead all spot is what allowed

548
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Speaker 1: for our lineup to at least be passable as an

549
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Speaker 1: offense without many of our stars, to win the needy

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Speaker 1: games to make the playoffs. And the big thing overall

551
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Speaker 1: Steven is the fact that he showed up in the playoffs.

552
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Speaker 1: He hit for power, he got he got on base,

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Speaker 1: he played good defense. He showed that he could be

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Speaker 1: a valuable contributor when we needed it the most. So

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Speaker 1: all the questions that many had had about Michael Harris

556
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: the second whether or not they are going to stay

557
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: consistently from now on remains to be seen. But the

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Speaker 1: reason why the end of the year was so encouraging

559
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: was because many of the questions that people have asked

560
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Speaker 1: about Michael Harris, can he answer these questions with a

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Speaker 1: yes to elevate to be in a superstar He started

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Speaker 1: to answer them last year, and it was really encouraging.

563
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Speaker 2: To see, Yeah, you know, the fact that he does

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Speaker 2: hit lefties, like for his career, he's gonna one oh

565
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Speaker 2: five WRC plus against lefties, which is not, like, you know,

566
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Speaker 2: insanely high production. But you know, when you add in

567
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Speaker 2: that he kills righties, the fact that he still is

568
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Speaker 2: above average hitter against lefties, especially you know, as young

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Speaker 2: as he is, that's a big deal. Like it's a

570
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Speaker 2: very big deal and allows him to be just an

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Speaker 2: everyday player no matter what. I was happy for him

572
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Speaker 2: to have success in the playoffs. You know, his first

573
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Speaker 2: two years and the playoffs were pretty much a disaster.

574
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Speaker 2: I mean, if we're being fair, he was like one

575
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Speaker 2: for twenty seven in those first two series against Philadelphia

576
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: his first two years in the playoffs, and I'm sure

577
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: that was a monkey on his back. And he was

578
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Speaker 2: unbelievable against the Padres last year in those two games.

579
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Speaker 2: So I'm happy for him. I'm hoping that we'll you know,

580
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Speaker 2: take the pressure off a little bit and just let him,

581
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Speaker 2: you know, play when he gets there. Again, I agree

582
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Speaker 2: with you. I don't think he's a lead off hitter.

583
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Speaker 2: You have to be able to take pitches and walk

584
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: more to be a lead off hitter. But again that's

585
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Speaker 2: that's also the power of having Profar, who is a

586
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Speaker 2: switch hitter, who takes pitches, who's very patient, has a

587
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: high walk rate. Right with Acunya out, a lot of times,

588
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: Michael Harris just automatically gets put in that spot because

589
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Speaker 2: there's really no one else to do it. Well. Now

590
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: the Brave's that Profar, and so that's gonna help Michael,

591
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,239
Speaker 2: who probably needs to be in the middle, you know,

592
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: to the lower middle part of the order. Now he

593
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: can kind of stay there even when Acunya is out,

594
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Speaker 2: because I'm guessing Profar is gonna lead off while Acunya

595
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Speaker 2: is out. So but I think Michael could be a

596
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Speaker 2: lead offitter at some point. He's just got to, you know,

597
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: play discipline. It is something you can improve on. It

598
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: is something that you know, we have seen players get

599
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Speaker 2: better at as they get older, get used to the

600
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: league more. So I'm not completely ruling it out. It's

601
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Speaker 2: just at this point the profile is certainly not one

602
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: of a lead offitters. So that's that's the important part

603
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Speaker 2: of profar. But all the POTENTI the world there is

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Speaker 2: no I mean again, I haven't given up on Acunya

605
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: just yet still being the best player in the world.

606
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Speaker 2: But if you want to tell me that the player

607
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Speaker 2: with the most potential out of anybody in the Braves

608
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: organization is Michael Harris, I'm not gonna argue too much.

609
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: I certainly believe he's at least second. I think second

610
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Speaker 2: is the lowest you could put him. So he is

611
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Speaker 2: an unbelievable player, and he's an unbelievable potential player, like

612
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Speaker 2: MVP level player. And like I said, I think his

613
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: glove can carry him, you know, as a premium center

614
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Speaker 2: fielder for the first ten years of his career. I

615
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: think his bat could carry him for another ten years.

616
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Speaker 2: I really you know, maybe as a corner outfit. I

617
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: think he's got longevity in this game. He's got to

618
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Speaker 2: stay healthy, of course, But if he can clean up

619
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Speaker 2: that chase rate, what should lower the ground ball rate,

620
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: which should increase the walk rate. Like it's all tied together,

621
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Speaker 2: and just that one fix alone, I think would elevate

622
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Speaker 2: his game to all stars AH MVP level player. And

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty you know, there's no time like the president

624
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five would be absolutely my my favorite time

625
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Speaker 2: for him to do it. I'm rooting like crazy for him.

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Speaker 2: He's an incredible kid, Like he's the nicest kid in

627
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: the world. He's big on social media, He's he's got

628
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: a you know, hilarious personality. You know, people love him

629
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Speaker 2: in the clubhouse, like he's a great kid. And I

630
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Speaker 2: think he's just one. I think he's one adjustment away

631
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Speaker 2: from being a perennial MVP player type player, and that's

632
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: that chase rate. And we'll see how he does, you know,

633
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Speaker 2: coming coming into twenty twenty five, I.

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Speaker 1: Guess I'm gonna go un characteristic here and look at

635
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: it from again. One other perspective, another twist in this conversation.

636
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Speaker 1: If Michael Harris the second can take what he did

637
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: at the end of last year and pulled over to

638
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: the start of this season, that'll be such a huge

639
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: boost to the brains. But the other thing is turning

640
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: that perspective one eighty because to start the season, you're

641
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: gonna have profar and left, Michael Harris the second and center,

642
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: and Kellnick in right field. Michael Harris the second, I believe,

643
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: in each of the past two seasons, has had an

644
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: early season injury. Now, as we discussed last year, you

645
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: missing nearly forty games due to over forty games due

646
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: to the injury. This outfield situation has the potential to

647
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: be one of the best in the league. If Profar

648
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: is healthy and productive like he was last year, Michael

649
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: Harris the second breaks out, Ronald Acuna Juter comes back

650
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: and is any We're close to normal ronald'cunya. That's what

651
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: we all hope. But this outfield is also one Michael

652
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: Harris the second significant injury away from being potentially a

653
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: weakness of the team if that occurs, and I don't

654
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't like to think that way. I'm not hoping

655
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: this happens. But we're we're one Michael Harris injury away

656
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: from it being Jerks and Profar and left, Jared kelnickan center,

657
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: and what Brian de la Cruz and right. And you

658
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: know the purpose of looking at these, you know, capsules,

659
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: as we call them, is not just about when player.

660
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: It's about the position. And we're talking about the outfit

661
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: as a whole. Michael Harris the second is one of

662
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: the most important outfield lynch pins for a team in

663
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: baseball because if he breaks out, this breaks out outfield,

664
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 1: you could stack it up against anyone. If he gets injured,

665
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: it gets dire quickly.

666
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: Well, even when sorry Cook, even when Akunya comes back.

667
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: You know, Profar is not a good defender. No, Akunya

668
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: is not a good defender. I think that's fair. I

669
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: know people get mad when you say that, but like

670
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: the number is kind of bearing out. Acunya is not

671
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: a He's not a great right fielder. And that was

672
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: before you to knee surgeries to torn a cls. So like,

673
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: even when those guys come back, and even if they're

674
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: hitting well, Michael's defense is going to be of dire

675
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: importance because he is going to be running all over

676
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: the field with Profar on his right and Acuna on

677
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: his left. So yeah, I mean he's even when those

678
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: guys are healthy, his defense is going to be of

679
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: major importance.

680
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: Which brings me to the point. When we look at

681
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: the center field position as a whole, the spotlight comes

682
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: on one very interesting character, and that's one Jared Kilinick.

683
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: Now we've discussed, we talked about it during the Profar

684
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: you know signing reaction show. Over the past eight months,

685
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: Jared Kilnick has lost his job twice. He lost it

686
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: to Ramon larrey Io during the season, and he's now

687
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: lost a long term to Jerkson Profar. But again, that

688
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that Jared kelnk does not have significant value

689
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: for this outfield. If Michael Harris the second word to

690
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: go down, Jared Kilnick is the one guy that could

691
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: step up in play centerfield and don't play every day

692
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: because he's the only guy that you can rely on

693
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: in center field. He's not an elite centerfielder, but he's

694
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: at least passable. With good defense in the corners. Jared

695
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: Kelnick could be a potential defensive replacement for Jarrickson Profar

696
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: when we have the lead late in games. But when

697
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: we're looking at the centerfield position as a whole, and

698
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: we talk about it being an important season for Michael

699
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: Harris the second, I again put the spylight on Jared

700
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: Kelnick Stephen and that his role obviously is going to

701
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: be a lot different this year than it was last year.

702
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: A lot more uncertainty of where he gets consistent playing

703
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: time once Ronald ac Counya Junior comes back. But I

704
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: think Jared Kelnick could also really help out his future

705
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: if he focuses on being successful no matter what role

706
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: he has. And the thing that stands out is that

707
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: if Michael Harris the second were to go down all

708
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: of the sudden, Jared Jared Kelnick becomes really valuable for

709
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: this Braves team, especially due to the defensive upside he

710
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: can offer in the outfield.

711
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty fascinated to see what happens with Kelnick

712
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five before Profar you know, everybody said

713
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 2: it's kind of a make or break here for him

714
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: because everybody thought he was gonna be the starting left fielder.

715
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: Now he's not. He's gonna play until a Kunya comes back.

716
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: And let's be honest, there's gonna be injuries in the outfield.

717
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: He's probably gonna get a decent amount of playing time

718
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: even after Akunya comes back. There are gonna be days

719
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: where Ronnie can't play in the outfield. He's gonna need

720
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: days off. There's gonna you know, Michael's had some sort

721
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 2: of injury every year. You know, Profars, you know, over

722
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: thirty and an outfielder, that's always a recipe for an

723
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: injury at some point. So I do think Kelnick's gonna

724
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: get a decent amount of run assuming he's on the team.

725
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: You know, I guess we're not. We're not official to

726
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: the point where he's gonna be on the team. You know,

727
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: Eli White is still technically in the organization and Kelnick

728
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: has options, and Kelnick might even be traded, we don't know.

729
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: But as the roster stands right now, he's gonna be

730
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: the fourth outfielder and he should get a decent amount

731
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: of run. So it really is kind of a make

732
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: or break year for like, he's got to do something

733
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: to justify being on a roster quite honestly, Like if

734
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna be a fourth outfielder, you do need to

735
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: hit a little bit. And you know he's got potential

736
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: in him. He strikes out a ton, which has always

737
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: been his big thing. He runs like a thirty thirty

738
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: one percent strikeout rate, which is very high. That's like

739
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge level high, but without the power, which is

740
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: a problem. Obviously, Aaron Judge can justify the strikeouts because

741
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 2: he hits seventy five home runs a year. You know,

742
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 2: if you don't do that, then when you strike out

743
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 2: thirty one percent of the time, you're probably gonna get

744
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: benched for Ramon Moreano at some point. And that's exactly

745
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: what happened to Jared Kilnick. So he's got to figure

746
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 2: he's got to stop striking out so much. He's got

747
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: to walk more. It's a it's a it's an ugly profile,

748
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: quite honestly. It's not one that I would bet on

749
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: long term. I've said it on this podcast before. We're

750
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: kind of fifteen hundred play appearances in to Kelnick's career.

751
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 2: I don't know how much more potential there is, quite honestly,

752
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: but he's gonna get a chance. And the Braves sees

753
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: something in him. Obviously they gave they spend a lot

754
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 2: of money on him last year, so they think there's

755
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: something in there. You know, he's gonna have a new

756
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: hitting coach. We'll see if he can unlock something. There

757
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: is talent there. We saw it in June last year

758
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: when he was the best hitter on the team for

759
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: thirty days. But it's just fleeting, you know, it's never consistent.

760
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: So it is a very important year for him, assuming

761
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: he's on the team, assuming he's on the roster, he's

762
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: gonna get chances. You know, Akuni is not gonna play

763
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 2: for at least a month. We know that Michael always

764
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 2: has an injury to Profar is probably not gonna play

765
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: one sixty two. He's gonna get a chance at some

766
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: point if he's around. So it's a big even though

767
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: he's not to start anymore. It's a big year for

768
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: Jared Kelnick. He's gonna show something. And even if it's

769
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: not for the Braves, for another team, who who, you know,

770
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: they might need a left field or you know, somebody.

771
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: There's always other teams watching. Even if the Braves don't

772
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: have a spot open the next three years because they

773
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: signed Profar, somebody else does. So, Yeah, big year for Jared.

774
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: Kelnick and it's probably an insignificant fact. But let's also

775
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, point out that Tim Hyres, you know, is

776
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: the new hitting coach for the Braves, and he's someone

777
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: that we were talking about two young outfielders, mainly when

778
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: we're focusing on this centerfield position. We're talking about Michael

779
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: Harris the second and Jared Kilnick. Hires has a little

780
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: bit of familiarity with Kilnick. You know, Hires was with

781
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: the Rangers while Kelnick was with the Mariners. Hires had

782
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: some success with young outfielders like Evan Carter and Wyatt

783
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: Langford over the past couple of years, a Doulas Garcia,

784
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: you know, he helped become and at least for a few years,

785
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: an elite level player. So this is so so asking

786
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: for Hires to unlock the next level of offense for

787
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: both Michael Harris the second and Jared Kelnick. It's not

788
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: something he has not been asked before, and he's had

789
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: the type of success you would to see from those two.

790
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: So I think that that's another you know, maybe insignificant

791
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: to some, but work discussing point is that hires pass

792
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: success with this type of player profile could bid you know,

793
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: good potential in terms of returns for Harris and Jared

794
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: Kilnick being able to make the most of their twenty

795
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: five seasons.

796
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, if Kelnick plays well, I mean, that's

797
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: that's a good problem to have. You know, the Braves

798
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: have run out of outfielders like three of the last

799
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: four years, and Alex has had to go acquire multiple

800
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: guys at the trade deadline. So you know, Ronald's always

801
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: going to need days off. I mean, we saw in

802
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: twenty two when he came back from the ACL that

803
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: he just wasn't quite the same guy. He needed days off.

804
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: You know, Kelnick being good is a fantastic problem for

805
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: the Braves, and you know, he could really rewrite the

806
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: story of his career if he starts to show some

807
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 2: growth in some of these areas. The problem is he's

808
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: run like the exact same profile for like three straight

809
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: years now, and you know, they just they you got

810
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: to show some growth somewhere or you're not gonna be

811
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: around much longer, and you're not gonna be in the

812
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: majors much longer, especially when you have a minor league

813
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: option like he does. So yeah, big year for Kelnick.

814
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: You know Tim Hires could certainly help him. But for

815
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: Michael Harris, you know, the I don't want to say

816
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: I'm predicting him to be an MVP level player because

817
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 2: that's not fair to him. That's that's an incredible expectation

818
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 2: to put on somebody. But I kind of am I

819
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: kind of am expect I kind of expect him to

820
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: really to use last year. The end of last year

821
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: in the playoffs last year as a jump off point

822
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty five and be like an MVP level

823
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: player for the Braves in twenty twenty five. I'm I

824
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: would love to see it. I think he's that good,

825
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: and I think he's that talented, and I again, I

826
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: think we could get to the end of this year

827
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 2: and every Braves fan agrees that the most talented player

828
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 2: on the team is now Michael Harris, Like he's got

829
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: that level of ability in him.

830
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: Stephen, remind me again, where's the twenty twenty five All

831
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: Star Game occurring?

832
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: It's occurring in Truest Park in Cobb County in Georgia.

833
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: How about how about Michael Harris man in center field

834
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: for the National League teams?

835
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: Has he made an All Star team yet? Maybe because

836
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: he came up so late in his rookie year.

837
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, yep, how about this. We won't say that

838
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: he's to an MVP level yet, But what will compromise

839
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: What me and Steven are predicting for Michael Harris the

840
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: second his first go glove and his first All Star selection.

841
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: I like it.

842
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: It's got to stay healthy, yes, got it? We try to.

843
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: We need to try to play like at least one

844
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty games. Possibly he's never done that before.

845
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: So he gotta stay healthy, and we got to stop

846
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 2: swinging at crap in the dirt. We do those two things,

847
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 2: Michael Harris is going to get MVP votes.

848
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: And more than anything, just Michael Harris, if you happen

849
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: to listen to this show, just stay true, stay true

850
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: to yourself, because you're a hell of a guy like that.

851
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: I know you could say that about several people across baseball,

852
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: but Michael Harris the second just seems like a genuinely

853
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: great guy. Just one that you're lucky that the Braves

854
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: have in the clubhouse, especially with all the departures that

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Speaker 1: they have going on. But just a fan favorite for

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Speaker 1: good reason, someone who knows how to interact with the fans.

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Speaker 1: Just a really good personality, and it's always fun to

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Speaker 1: see him when he's playing baseball good. He's a great

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Speaker 1: ambassador for the game, and you hope that you see

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Speaker 1: it plenty of times.

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Speaker 2: This season they got to film a different commercial. Though

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Speaker 2: they showed that four Bronco commercial seventy five thousand times

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Speaker 2: last year, we got to get a different commercial. If

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Speaker 2: I'm Michael Harris. I'm like, guys, please stop showing this

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Speaker 2: damn commercial. You guys show it like he's probably sick

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Speaker 2: of it. At this point, we need, Michael, we need

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Speaker 2: another commercial, maybe a couple of them, so we can

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Speaker 2: rotate them through. You know, I'm not a pr guy,

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Speaker 2: but that's just my suggestion. We can't play this commercial

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Speaker 2: one thousand times. You know that's no what. No one

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Speaker 2: wins there. So it's a beautiful blue Ford Bronco as

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Speaker 2: everybody saw. But we need another commercial.

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Speaker 1: How about we do multiple commercials where he shows off

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Speaker 1: of gold Glove and one Yes the Other and a

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Speaker 1: world series range.

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Speaker 2: Just play highlights, just play home robbing home runs from

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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Phillies for thirty second spot. I'll take it.

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Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. Well, guys, it's been

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Speaker 1: a pleasure talk with you once again here on the

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Speaker 1: Hammer Territory Podcast. Michael Harris. The second we truly feel,

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Speaker 1: Braves in twenty twenty five, for them to live up

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Speaker 1: to the potential that we all know that they have.

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Speaker 1: But again, if there's one breakout candidate who we're all

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Speaker 1: going to be hoping truly breaks out. It'll be Michael Harris,

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Speaker 1: the second manning center field for the Braves. For Steven Tober,

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Speaker 1: you can find him at the Underscore Outliers on Twitter

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Speaker 1: Make sure you check them out. But until next time,

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Speaker 1: for Steven told Her, my name is Sean Coleman. Go Braves.

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