1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor Prediction of iHeartRadio. I'm Anne 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Eares and I'm more In Vogelbaum and today we have 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: an episode for you about the foods of Spirited Away. Yes, 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: and it gave me a wonderful excuse to watch Spirited 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: Away again, which I just like right before this. Oh huzzah. Yeah, 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: I actually had somehow never seen this movie before. I know, 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: I know, I don't know what rock I was under, um, 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: but uh, but yeah, I've watched it twice in the 9 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: past like twenty like twelve to twenty four hours. I 10 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: watched the English subtitled version and the dubbed version both 11 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: and and yeah, what a beautiful movie. It's so beautiful. 12 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: And this is one of the most shocking things I 13 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: learned about you a f. This is so interesting to 14 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: me because I loved this movie when it came out, 15 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: and I kind of didn't get into anime a lot, 16 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: but I had friends who are really into it. But 17 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: the reason I watched this movie, and I'm kind of 18 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: embarrassed to admit it, is because Davy Chase was the 19 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: English dub voice actor Fritz a Hero and Davy Chase 20 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: was Samara from the English version version of the Ring. 21 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right. I was such a fan of 22 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: Wow that I watched this, and this was before I 23 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: even knew like it had been so critically acclaimed and 24 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: all of those things. I literally was just like I 25 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I love her, so I'm gonna watch this. 26 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: And I know some people, including some of my friends, 27 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: get really angry when they're like the English stub what Oh, 28 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: it's very well produced. It is, and I mean, honestly, 29 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: that's why I watched it. And you can yell at 30 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: me all you want, but it got me to watch it. 31 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: But I loved it, and I went through a very 32 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: big period where I watched it pretty frequently. Oh yeah, yeah. 33 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: I used to do what I call like casual cosplay 34 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: of her, basically just like the green stripe shirt and 35 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: the pink shorts, like very easy. Oh yeah, I've seen 36 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: you in that outfit. Mmm. I loved it. I think 37 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: it's great. I think it's beautiful. We'll talk about it 38 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: more as we get into the episode. But this is 39 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: very interesting to me because we talked about you had 40 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: mentioned doing Studio Ghibli like at large, but it was 41 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: too big. It was too much, Oh, way too much. 42 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely too much. And then I was going, where do 43 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: we even start diving into their films or into mi 44 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: Zaki's films in general. Um, and sort of I just 45 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: sort of ask Google, um and uh and Google was 46 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: basically like spirited away. So and I was like, all right, good, 47 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: excuse to watch a movie I haven't watched before. Let's go. 48 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, oh I haven't seen it. I think 49 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: this is the first time in like a decade. But 50 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: it holds up for you. It was great, it was 51 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: so pretty, It's so beautiful. Oh my gosh. Highly recommend, 52 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: highly recommend. Also you can see our past fictional foods episodes. Um, 53 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: some that we're going to mention in this Uh. Also 54 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: are on a Geary episode? Yeah, definitely, yeah that one. 55 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: That one does certainly come up. Um it does. And yeah, 56 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess spoiler alert. I mean, this movie 57 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: is over twenty years old. So if like me, you 58 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: have not seen it, then, um, either go do that now, 59 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: um or I mean, if you're driving or something, don't 60 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: do it really right now, but you know, maybe pause 61 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: the episode or just roll with it. And you know, 62 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, this could be a fun one to 63 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: just roll with. To be honest, it's one of those 64 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: ones where when you try to explain it, Yeah, it's 65 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: very interesting. Yeah, you just sound you just sound weirder 66 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: and weirder the more specific you get about some of 67 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: the details. So yeah, there you go. Yeah, you think 68 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: your path, thank your path. But I guess this brings 69 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: us to our question, sure the foods of spirited Away, 70 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: what are they? Well? A Spirited Away First is an 71 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: animated feature film written and directed by Hio Miazaki about 72 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: a ten year old girl who who has to discover 73 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: her own bravery and self self worth in order to 74 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: save her family and return from a spirit world to 75 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: their nor life. It was originally released in Japan in 76 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and one, produced by the animation house studio Ghibli. 77 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: And this film is deeply weirder and funnier and grosser 78 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: and scarier than what I just said. It's also beautiful. 79 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: More on that in just a second. It's it's not 80 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: really it's not really a coming of age story. It's 81 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: more like a coming of coming of age story. That 82 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, and yeah, Miyazaki has said that that 83 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: he wanted to make a film about that first stage 84 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: of adolescence. So let's talk about him for a minute though. 85 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: So uh Miyazuki Hyo was born in Tokyo in nineteen 86 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: forty one and started working as an animator in his 87 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: early twenties. This was during a like post post war 88 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: economic boom in Japan that lasted through like the nineteen eighties, 89 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: maybe the early nineties, and just vastly expanded industrial and 90 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: urban and technological development, with like varying levels of environmental 91 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: concern attached to all of that, And his work deals 92 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: a lot with all of that, and it was certainly 93 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: the focus of his first big, like personal project, Nasca 94 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: of the Valley of the Wind, which he started as 95 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: a manga a comic book in nineteen eighty two and 96 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: developed into a film in eighty four. After the success 97 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: of that, he co founded his own animation studio as 98 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: Studio Ghibli in nineteen eighty five, which is sort of 99 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: like sort of like Disney, if like Walt Disney had 100 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: continued being hands on with the animation, because Miyazaki is 101 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: still their primary director and he writes his own films, 102 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: and he still works primarily in hand drawn animation, like 103 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: he still has his hands on the cells that are 104 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: going into the films Ghibli does go through Disney though 105 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: for US distribution and their English debbing. That partnership started 106 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: in the mid nineties. I think a few of his 107 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: films got fairly big attention internationally, like right around then, 108 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: but perhaps more so in like the home viewing VHS 109 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: kind of market rather than on the big screen. Spirited 110 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: Away was the first big international breakthrough. And if you've 111 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: never seen an interview with or like profile on Miyazaki, 112 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: go look one up. He is so dear and so relatable. 113 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: There are just really sweet interviews with him talking about 114 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: not only you know, like like what drives him to 115 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: make these beautiful, surreal fairy tale films, but also sort 116 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: of the just the almost drudgery that you put yourself 117 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: into as an artist, where you love this subject and 118 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: you want to make it beautiful, but you hate everything 119 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: about it all the time. And as one who is 120 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: currently in this moment extremely cranky, um, I really appreciate that. No, yeah, 121 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm fine, folks, but yeah, okay, um so so um. 122 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: The movie Spirited Away, Uh. This is a film about right, 123 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: a ten year old girl named Hichiroo whose family is 124 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: in the process of moving to a new small town 125 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: like they are in the car driving there together for 126 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: the first time in the opening scene of the film, 127 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: But just when they get their new house in sight, 128 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: her father, who is driving, takes a wrong turn and 129 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: they wind up at the gate of this abandoned theme 130 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: park um which turns out to be not so abandoned. 131 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: It is populated by spirits. After her parents unwisely and 132 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: and greedily eat the spirits food, they are transformed into 133 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: pigs and and Chihido must must integrate herself into the 134 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: spirits world in order to find a way to break 135 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: the spell. To do so, she finds herself working under 136 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: contract in this big, fancy, gaudy spa that's run by 137 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: a witch yep that is that is what's going on. 138 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: And because Hihio is kind and like genuinely wants to help, 139 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: she gets involved in the lives of a few of 140 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: the spirits there, and as she helps them, she paves 141 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: the way to a solution to her own problems. It's 142 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: sort of like Wizard of Oz but like really steeped 143 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: in scinto Buddhist myth and folklore. Yeah, and it is 144 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: so steeped in food, food as a as a daily 145 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: concern and need of food as a business and part 146 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: of the larger service industry. Food as a temptation towards greed, 147 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: the fear of becoming food for for something monstrous, and 148 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: food as a and kindness like food is featured in 149 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: most scenes in the movie. Occasionally they are traveling to 150 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: more food, but but it's really in there. Like one 151 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: of the first lines of the film is Gido's mom 152 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: observing that their new town is so small that she's 153 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: going to have to go do the shopping the next 154 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: town over. And you know, her parents, like insatiable, greedy 155 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: hunger is what gets them into the whole mess. To 156 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: begin with, Gido has to eat the spirit's food in 157 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: order to stay in their realm. A couple different characters 158 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: make sure that she eats when she's hungry or tired 159 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: or stressed, and there are depictions of a whole range 160 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: of different socioeconomic relationships with food and like types of food. 161 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: There's the relatively inexpensive but but you know, certainly nice 162 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: plenty of this abandoned theme parks restaurants. There are the 163 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: super fancy dishes that are offered at the spa. There 164 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: are simple staff meals behind the scenes are like food 165 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: that's easily swiped from the kitchens. There's brightly wrapped, over 166 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: the top, absolutely gluttonous treats, and there's handmade food between 167 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: friends and like cozy tea time, and like garden herbs 168 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: dried to preserve their bounty. Yeah, the film directly and 169 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: repeatedly in a number of ways contrasts like simplicity and 170 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: earnestness and hard work against gluttony and pretension and trickery 171 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: or dishonesty. And that involves more than food that the 172 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: film also deals with, like money and tipping and non 173 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: food trappings of finery, but a lot of food and 174 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: and yeah, in the end, by like never taking too 175 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:02,479 Speaker 1: much and by knowing herself, by being assured in herself, 176 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: she Hito saves her parents bacon literally literally saves some 177 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: being turned into bacon. Yeah. I wish I could say 178 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: I was sorry, but I'm not. No, never apologize, never, 179 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: never never. I'm pretty sure they have that joke in there. Yeah, 180 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: in the English doub I think it's in there for sure, 181 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: So no, don't apologize. Well what about the nutrition? Don't 182 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: eat movies? Except where right we talk about consuming movies? 183 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: We do this this vague joke every time we say 184 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: I say we but it's me um. Every time we 185 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: do one of these. And in this case, there is 186 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: literally food in here that you are not supposed to eat. 187 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: So that's true. So work on that. I like, I 188 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: hear like ahead of the game, work on that. Work 189 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, don't eat it. If you if you 190 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: find yourself in an abandoned amusement park fairyland, don't eat 191 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: the food there. Ask some questions, yeah, some questions in 192 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: positive yeah, yeah, well we do have some numbers for you. 193 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: We do, we do. When it was released in Japan, 194 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Spirited Away broke box office records by earning thirteen point 195 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: one million dollars it's opening weekend, and it stood as 196 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: Japan's highest grossing film ever from two thousand and one 197 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: until twenty twenty, having earned over three hundred million dollars 198 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: in theaters. And it was nominated for and one like 199 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: a really wide range of awards around the world, and 200 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: not just in the animation category, though it did win 201 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: Best Animated Film at the Oscars in the second year 202 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: that that category existed. The first winner was Shrek. Yeah 203 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: that's no, no, no no, that was my reaction too. 204 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: That's why I didn't write it in here, because I 205 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: kind of wanted to make you laugh. But it should 206 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: have golied. And nothing wrong was Shrek. I just wasn't 207 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: expecting a little bit of a different, little bit of 208 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: a different tybe um at any rate. Yeah, it won 209 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: awards for Best Director, Best Song, Best Screenplay in different 210 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: film festivals. Um. It was nominated for at least thirty 211 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: nine awards and won at least thirty five of them. 212 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: It was it was really the crest of a wave 213 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: of international cultural movement that was that was occurring at 214 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: the time to take animation seriously as an art form 215 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: that can be enjoyed by by everybody, not just kids 216 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: and not just animation fans. Right, yeah. Yeah. It furthermore 217 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: has a ninety seven percent fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes 218 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: and a ninety six percent audience score as well. I 219 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: find that's rare that films are about equally beloved by 220 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: critics and the audience on Rotten Tomatoes. Also that like 221 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: three to four percent of people, what are you talking about, 222 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: I don't understand you. It was so popular, in fact, 223 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: or is so popular that a live stage adaptation was 224 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: mounted in Tokyo in twenty twenty two, directed by Oh gosh, 225 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how to say his last name, John 226 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: Card of lay mis fame like that. That guy also 227 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: heavily puppet based to help bring some of the like 228 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: more eccentric characters to life. If you missed it there, however, 229 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: do not worry. It was filmed, and as of this recording, 230 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three's edition of Studio ghibli Fest is just underway. 231 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: This is a yearly thing where Fathom Events brings Ghibli's 232 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: films back into select theaters for a couple days each. 233 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: Events are happening once a month March through October, and 234 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: that filmed live action play is going up at the 235 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: end of April. The original film is going up at 236 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: the end of October. So yeah, check check your local 237 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: local theater listings. Huh. That's interesting because I write before 238 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: the pandemic, I went to go see Princess Mononoke. Oh yeah, 239 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: and theaters which would have been around this time. Um, 240 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: because I've never seen it. Oh yeah, oh wow, Oh goodness. 241 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah I got to see I got to see Hell's 242 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: Moving Castle for the first time in a theater. Yeah. Yeah, 243 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: sometime within I think I assume I don't know it was. 244 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: It was over at Midtown Arts and they host kind 245 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: of regularly over there. Yeah huh, well that's interesting, very cool. Yeah, yeah, 246 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: I will say there are several fan blogs and pages 247 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: about how to recreate the food from the scenes of 248 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: this movie, are to host, how to host a themed party. 249 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: Some of them are very fun. Yeah, I highly recommend. 250 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: There are also itineraries about how to eat your way 251 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: through the region of Taiwan specifically that largely inspired this 252 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: film or partially. Yeah. Yeah, there's argument about what exactly 253 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: inspired it, but right, people enjoy arguing about the sort 254 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: of things, so yeah, they do, they do, indeed, But yeah, 255 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: all that stuff is out there and it's really fun 256 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: to look at, really fun to read about. So oh yeah, 257 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: highly recommend. Yes, and right, we are going to talk 258 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: through some of these specific foods that appear in this film. 259 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: But first we are going to take a quick break 260 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: for a word from our sponsors, and we're back. Thank 261 00:17:55,320 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: you sponsors, Yes, thank you. Okay, So this morn I 262 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: split up a little bit differently than I normally split 263 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: these up, just because food is throughout, it's relevant throughout, 264 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: and I was trying to make it make sense in 265 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: my brain of how I will structure it when I 266 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: was researching it. But I think it'll be good, it'll 267 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: make sense. Yeah, it's gonna be fine. Yeah. I might 268 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: have mucked about with it a little bit, but but 269 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: well yeah, yeah, well we'll work it all out. We will, 270 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: because for me, almost all of the memorable scenes, the 271 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: most memorable scenes in this movie are food related in 272 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: some way. And as you said, Lauren, it starts at 273 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: the beginning. It kind of kick starts the whole plot 274 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: because when this Chihiro and her parents arrive at this 275 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: abandoned theme park, her parents fine, they like her dad 276 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: sniffs out literally sniffs out, yeah, sniffs out this feast. 277 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: And it starts with this like visually, in my mind, 278 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: pretty visually disturbing scene of her parents eating, like just 279 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: stuffing their faces with far more food than their fill, 280 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: like just way too much dumplings and sausages, rice cakes, 281 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: roasted meats, pastries. But they do comment that they're not 282 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: sure what some of the food is, and I did 283 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: find several blogs trying to figure out what some of 284 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: the food is. Oh yeah, yeah, and it's just it's 285 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: got like all of the gross accompanying food sounds like 286 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: grunting and swallowing and chewing, and you've got like detritis 287 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: spit and crumbs going everywhere, like plates falling on the ground. 288 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: And this is all despite te Hiro's kind of panicked 289 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: requests like we should leave. This isn't right, we shouldn't 290 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: be here. Yeah, right, The whole scene is just purposefully uncomfortable. 291 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: The foods that they're eating are all a little surreal 292 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: or a little wrong, Like there's clearly saw messages and 293 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: dumplings and these little roasted birds, but like what kind 294 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: of birds are those? I don't know. She Hero's mom 295 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 1: doesn't know, Nope, but they're so tender and delicious, Like 296 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: the dumplings look real weird. The whole scene, right right, 297 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: just very off off, off putting. It is it is, 298 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: and that's like right at the beginning, and as you said, 299 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: unfortunately that food has been prepared for the ancient gods, 300 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: these spirits, and they are not happy about this gluttony, 301 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: so they transformed to Hero's parents into hogs, and yes, 302 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: in the end to Hero has to pick out her 303 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: parents from a group of pigs and so pretty it's 304 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: a pretty impressive scene. It is yeah, yeah, she knows 305 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: what she's doing. Yeah. And it kind of reminded me 306 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: of the past fictional foods episode we did on Pans 307 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: labyrinthum kind of that vibe of like don eat this, 308 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: or it's not gonna be good for you, right or 309 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: Goblin Market. Sure that that very that that trope in fantasy, 310 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: where yeah, this is this is food that is not 311 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: for you, exactly, it is from another realm. It is 312 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: for yeah, not you, not you, not you you human? Yeah, yes, yes, 313 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: and it was very purposeful. Um. So I found a 314 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: great article about a fan who wrote a letter to 315 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: me Zaki just had some questions, and Miazaki wrote back 316 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: and explained that this transformation into pig wasn't instantaneous, but 317 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: as a result of consuming more and more than you 318 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: need over a period of time, that when you became 319 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: a pig, your mind was slowly transformed into a pig's 320 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: and you would forget everything, You would forget your whole life, 321 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: your name, all of that. In his words, it was 322 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: meant to represent a certain class of Japanese people during 323 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: Japan's economic bubble. The more they got, the greedier they became, 324 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: and that's more out of the scope of this podcast, 325 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: but there was a lot of written about kind of 326 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: economics examined in this movie, and Miyazaki has spoken about 327 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: how this film was a commentary on shifting Japanese cultural 328 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: identity and specifically how that was manifesting with food. It 329 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: was really really interesting and kind of this whole idea 330 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: of like the past and present when the market becomes 331 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: more globalized with Japan's food going across the world, but 332 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: also new food's coming into Japan. What does that look like? 333 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: What does that mean? I also think the scene with 334 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: the family moving in the beginning is pretty important, like 335 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: they're going to a new place, Geiro is not happy 336 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: about it. They take this wrong turn, and then this 337 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: is where they end up. And especially with the dad character, 338 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: you've got the dad being very like confident where you 339 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't be so confident, like, nah, we can go this way. 340 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: This is fine, I can see the house from here. 341 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: Sure it connects um And then when they're eating the food, 342 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: he keeps saying stuff like him and the mom keeps 343 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: saying stuff like, oh, we got credit cards, we got cash. 344 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: They won't be mad, It's gonna be fine. We can 345 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: hate them because there are no attendants there When they 346 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: start writing and so and Tihito is like this, this 347 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: isn't right, Like what are you guys doing, Like a 348 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: best case, you're being rude And they're like, oh, I 349 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. That's fine. This is clearly for 350 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: us exactly. And that's kind of the thing, is like 351 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: they treat it like the money is the only issue, 352 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: not the rudeness or not that they didn't see anyone 353 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: or talk to anybody. It's just the money that's all 354 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: that matters. And so I found a lot of essays, 355 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: essays and articles about how it is a critique on 356 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: modern consumerism of that kind of idea. Well, I can 357 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: pay for it, so so why shouldn't I have it? Yeah, 358 00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: m And then the pig is very symbolic in a 359 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: couple of different ways, not only in terms of you know, 360 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: eating more than your fair share, but in Buddhism, the 361 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: pig represents ignorance, which is one of the three poisons. 362 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: And and Miyazaki does feature pigs like not infrequently in 363 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: his work. He's he's said about it, the behavior of 364 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: pigs is very similar to human behavior. I really like 365 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: pigs at heart for their strengths as well as their weaknesses. 366 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like pigs too, write They're kind of 367 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: terrifying but very cute. I like them from a distance. Yeah, 368 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: from the way the heck over here, Thank you very much. 369 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: Um okay, all right, moving moving away from Chihiro's parents 370 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: and the sort of goblin market, goblin restaurant stall situation. Um, 371 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: let's go into the spa and Okay, Early early on 372 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: in the film, um Hihiro winds up in the SPA's 373 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: boiler room, where where she meets some of the staff. 374 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: She meets the dude who runs the boiler in the baths, Kamaji, 375 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: and another worker named Lynn shows up bearing lunch, which 376 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: appears for him to be maybe like a like shrimp 377 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: tempora with some rice and some pickles. He also drinks 378 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: tea straight from the pot and is later shown with 379 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: a with a sake bottle, which you can assume he 380 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: had like a nightcap or something. We can assume. Yes, 381 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: And this is one of my favorite sequences in the 382 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: movie because you see the theme park transforming into this spirit, 383 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: the Spa for spirits. It's really beautiful. Yeah, and it 384 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: leads to probably one of the most iconic images in 385 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: the movie, which is that of the soot Sprites, which 386 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: are sort of these tiny, cute, fluffy, black cotton ball 387 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: things that have arms and legs. They basically are enchanted soot. 388 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. And as Lynn arrives there, it's dinner time, 389 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 1: so they show it for food and she feeds them 390 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: kompeto um, which kind of looked like these bright, multicolored 391 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: chalk candy stars. Um, they're rough, they're uneven edge. They 392 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: are these crunchy candies that are mostly made of sugar 393 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: and food dye. Could be a whole episode. They're a thing. Um. 394 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: I did a quick search and the quick search told 395 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: me that they're from Portugal but are found very often 396 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: in Japan. Ah yeah, and and right, and she she 397 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: feeds as it sprites these candies. It's sort of like 398 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: you would you would toss feed to it to a 399 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: group of chickens. Yeah, it's real cute. It's real cutem Also, 400 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: um uh Camaji bribes Lynn with of all things are 401 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: roasted newt. He's like, he's like, can you can you 402 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: help this little girl chi hero out? And she's like nah, 403 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: And he's like, what if I give you this roasted newt? 404 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: And that really doesn't She's like oldgate. And then people 405 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: find over the roasted newts. Yeah, someone is like, will 406 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: you let me suck on the tail for a second, 407 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: Like really, like, how can you be so greedy eating 408 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: eating that roasted newt? All yourself? Love it? I do too, 409 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: um right, And that that is as we are moving 410 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: up out of the boiler room into kind of the 411 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: body of the spa where we meet some of the 412 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: Spasm guests and see some of the food that they 413 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: are being served. Yes, and one of the things I 414 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: totally forgot was the Radish spirit. Some of the spirits 415 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: who are guests are based around foods. Yeah, a lot 416 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: of them are kind of animals or or yea, etc. 417 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: Things that were not immediately clear to me what they were. 418 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, there's this giant Radish spirit and he's just 419 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: a bloody He's just hanging out, man, he just wants 420 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: to know where to go. Yeah. Yeah, apparently at one 421 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: point he orders a sulfur bath. I don't know, but yeah, 422 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: the guests and the spug get much fancier, kind of 423 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: better plated foods than the staff gets, perhaps obviously um 424 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: like like all sorts of steamed dumplings and grilled seafoods, 425 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: soups and salads. You see being prepared by the tray 426 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: like like. Food is a major part of this business 427 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: of the spa. In the basements we see huge refrigerated 428 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: rooms full of cuts of meat and fish. Also on 429 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: site there is a farm where the pigs and Chihito's 430 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: parents live, and also crops like cabbages and corn. And 431 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: then upstairs and the witches quarters and office of the 432 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: witches named being U Baba. There's perhaps the fanciest foods 433 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: of all lemonade and chocolates and other treats like that. Mhmm, yeah, yes, 434 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: all that brings us to one of the most infamous guests. Sure, 435 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: No Face. So even if you haven't seen this movie, 436 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: I bet you've seen an image of No Face. I 437 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: have seen magnificent causeplay. Yeah's No Face before it kind 438 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: of grim reaper esque, but like taller and not not 439 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, he's got like that vibe, but 440 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: he's also not I don't know, it's hard to describe. 441 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: He's kind of a melancholy. Yeah, he's wearing sort of 442 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: a blank mask as a face. But it turns out 443 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: that that's not his where his mouth is, it's not 444 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: behind the mask, And yeah, he seems really just lost. 445 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: He's not an official patron of the spot. Chihito sort 446 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: of accidentally lets him in again out of kindness. She's like, 447 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: aren't you getting wet in the rain, And he's visibly 448 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: not getting wet because he's he's slightly immaterial, right, but 449 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: at any rate, she lets him in, and then he 450 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: makes that everybody else's problem because he's just he's just trying. 451 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: But but but in a way that's really sweet because 452 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: he's just sort of looking for some kind of fulfillment. 453 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: He is some kind of recognition. Yeah, I love that 454 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: because it's it's funny. When I was watching it, I 455 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: hadn't seen it in a while. There are a certain 456 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: parts I forgot, and I was like, oh, yeah, he 457 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: eats people. He mostly throws them back up. Yeah, all 458 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: of them survive. Let's let's step back. So okay, basically 459 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: yes to hear lets him in. He witnesses an event 460 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: where he's like, oh, people like gold, Yeah, but like gold. 461 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: So he starts making gold and it is as this 462 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: way of like, I want people to like me. I 463 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: want some kind of connection. I want some kind of warmth, which, yes, 464 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: is another comment on capitalism, and so just word spreads 465 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: wildly like, oh, he can make gold, he's rich. So 466 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: the denizens of the bathhouse bring him all kinds of food. 467 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: He's so he keeps saying, I'm like so hungry, I 468 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: want to eat everything. So they bring him like sushi, 469 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 1: roasted sweet potatoes, buns, and he sees this, or at 470 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: least it's implied to me. He sees this as like affections, like, oh, 471 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: they love me, They're bringing me all this stuff, yeah, 472 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: in exchange for gold. So Shahiro ultimately is kind of 473 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: blamed for his presence there has to confront him, and 474 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 1: in multiple instances, she's kind of like, I don't need 475 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: the gold. I don't need what you're giving me. I'm 476 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: in a hurry. I gotta help of friends. And he can't. 477 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: It's like he can't understand it. He can't figure it out. 478 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 1: And because of that, and because of her continued willingness 479 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: to help him, he kind of realizes like, oh, this 480 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: unending hunger, this ravenousness, this insatiability, He's never gonna fill 481 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: it with this food. Yeah, yes, and especially not when 482 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: he's giving my gold for this food, and so this 483 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: excess consumption is like just trying to fill that and 484 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: it's never gonna make you happy. And yes, there are 485 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: a couple scenes where he lures someone closer to him 486 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: with the promise of gold and then needs them yep, yep, 487 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: And he does grow larger and larger in size as 488 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: he eats more, and he so he's it's like he's 489 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: used to getting everything he wants with gold or with 490 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: giving what he thinks people want, and then they'll give 491 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: him this love. There's even a line where they say like, 492 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: welcome rich man. Oh wow. Yeah, yet I do like 493 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: a whole actual song and dance for him. Yes, but 494 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: in the end, not only does it turn out that 495 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: the gold isn't real gold, it's dirt. It's just dirt 496 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: or pebbles depending on the translation, that he's made to 497 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: look like gold. Yes, but also Chihiro uses this magic dumpling, 498 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: which we'll talk about more in a second, this healing 499 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: dumpling to give him as sort of a medicine that 500 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: purchased him of everything that he has consumed, and he 501 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: at first he's like so angry about it. He's like, 502 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: what have you given me? Strowing up everywhere. Yeah, but 503 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: then it does heal him, and he after that kind 504 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: of follows to hero around and is doing much better 505 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: and kind of funds a new job at the end. Yeah. 506 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes he just need a good purge, you know. Yeah. Yeah, 507 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: but it was sort of getting rid of all of 508 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: that stuff he didn't need. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, because 509 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: Jahiro did. She got this like magic dumpling after she 510 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: removed this dark magic for another spirit that we'll talk 511 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: about more in a second, and she shared it with him. Um. 512 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: But the reason she got that magic dumpling, it's like 513 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: the stink spirit came in they all called a distinct spirit. 514 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: It's like this huge blob of sludge and everyone's freaking out. 515 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it's coming in and they're like literally 516 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: battened down the hatches and people are are fainting from 517 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: the smell, and Ghihito's hair is standing on end and 518 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: uh yeah. And and she she helps it. She gives 519 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: it a nice bath experience and realizes that it's it's 520 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 1: not a stink spirit, it's a polluted river spirit. It 521 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: was just it just had so much junk inside of 522 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: it that it needed to get out literally and and 523 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: so once she helps it purge in a less vomiting 524 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: way in this case, uh yeah. After after it purges, 525 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: then it can be clean and free again and ingratitude. 526 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: It gives her this magic puke dumpling. Um yeah, I'm 527 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: currently taste gross apparently. Yeah, she tries a little bit. 528 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: She's like, oh no, but I always found that scene 529 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: very moving too, because it's like pollution, Like you can 530 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: see like a bike and a toilet and all this 531 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: stuff just coming out of its river. Spirit. Um. But 532 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,479 Speaker 1: that's her reward for that, and she shares it, which 533 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: does bring us to Chihiro and a lot of the 534 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: foods that's around Chihiro. Um. So, when she first is 535 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: crossing the bridge in the spirit world, one of the 536 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: first things that happens is Haku finds her. Haku being 537 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: another one of the workers in the spa. He is 538 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: the apprentice to Ya Baba. Yes, yes, and he's like 539 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: eat this or else you're going to fade away. It's 540 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: like back to the futurisk, like can see through you. Yeah, 541 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: it's happening to her. She needs to eat a piece 542 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: of the spirit's food in order to stay in that realm, 543 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: in order to be there, right, that's one of the 544 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: very first things. And also in order to help her parents, 545 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: she kind of decides like, Okay, I'm gonna have to 546 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: stay in the spirit falm, so I'm gonna have to 547 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: eat their food. But the more of the food she 548 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: eats there, the more that she feels like she belongs there, 549 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: or perhaps more accurately, can't remember. Details of her other 550 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: life sort of fades away, and she gets closer and 551 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 1: closer to becoming a permanent resident of the spirit world. Yeah, 552 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: there's there's a really, there's a whole bit. As she's 553 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: kind of settling in to life at the spa where 554 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh, what is that human doing here? 555 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 1: It stinks, um, it smells like human? Why why? Why? 556 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: Why is that happening? And and Lynn even comments like, oh, 557 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: get over it, like like after three days of eating 558 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: our food, she'll smell like one of us anyway, So yeah, yeah, yeah, 559 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 1: And she hiro agrees, based on Haku's advice, to get 560 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: this job working in this bathhouse, and as part of that, 561 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: she gets a new name. Her name kind of gets 562 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: taken from her. And at this point, I mean, she's isolated. 563 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: Her parents are pigs. She doesn't know what's going on, 564 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: but we do see denizens of the spirit world give 565 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: to hero food as something of a comfort on more 566 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: of the one occasion, and pretty early on, Lynn gives 567 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: sen who is that's the name that she is given 568 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: by the witch Chihiro a bun from the kitchens. Yeah. 569 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: She She also tried to bring Chihiro breakfast earlier that day, 570 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: but it got caught up in the whole stink spirit thing. 571 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 1: It got like rotted by the intense stink of distinc spirit. Yeah, 572 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: sure did. And then yeah, Haku who is one of 573 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: her I mean, there's definitely a good play on, like 574 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: is he trustworthy or not? Her river spirit friend Haku. 575 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: He gives Chihiro some magically boosted on a guitery to 576 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: cheer her up, which is also one of the most 577 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: memorable scenes in my opinion. He gives them to her 578 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,439 Speaker 1: to return her strength. She's like feeling this weakness, she's 579 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: in turmoil, and he also does it to restore her memories, 580 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: including her true name, which she had forgotten. Um and 581 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: she takes this bite and begins to cry. It really 582 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: demonstrates the power of sharing food, no matter how in 583 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: quote simple food that is, and how homemade food and 584 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: specific here and sharing it with friends and the vulnerability 585 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: of that Oh yeah, like you take a bite into 586 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: it and you remember this yeah yes, yeah, sure sure, 587 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 1: and you remember other times when you've had that comfort 588 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: in that community. Uh yeah. So I mean also just 589 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,919 Speaker 1: like like viscerally, like the image of this little girl 590 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: like double fisting Ota geary and and weeping wildly. I 591 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: was like, oh, girl, I have been there, like I've 592 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: been there this week, Like heck like that. I'm like, 593 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: oh buddy, yeah, and I want. One of the lines 594 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: from the subtitle trans Latian really stuck with me. When 595 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: Haku when after she starts to cry and she's sort 596 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: of like finished the first on a geary um, he 597 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: just goes, you've had a rough time, you better eat more? Yes, 598 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: and hands are too handser two more, and she's just like, yeah, 599 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: so good. It is. It is. And I do think 600 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: it speaks to this idea of food being a bridge 601 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: between people of like she has to eat it to 602 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: not fade away. But also like going back to me 603 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: Zaki's comments he made about this kind of finding identity 604 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,479 Speaker 1: through food for her remembering her name and her path, 605 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: but doing that like on a country scale as well, 606 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 1: and finding place through food, finding comfort through food, because 607 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: you do see the bad, the negatives and the positives 608 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: of it. But this was a very a very powerful 609 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: scene of like, look how it transports you into this 610 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: these memories and this identity and all that stuff. I 611 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: also want to say, I know we're insensibly a food show, 612 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: but I did want to include this because you know, 613 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: at the end, Hockey remembers his name thanks to Chihiro, 614 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: and he is the Cocu River, the spirit of the 615 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: Coque River, and she says like, oh, it was turned 616 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: into apartments, it was paved over. Yeah, the river was 617 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: paved over, and yeah, apartments are standing there now. But 618 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 1: she remembers as a child going in there and falling 619 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: in Yeah. And I just think that that really fits 620 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: in with this idea of she was determined not to 621 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: forget him, to save him, and that that power of 622 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: like remembering, and I think with all the like shifting 623 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: of things that Mizaki was commenting on with this but 624 00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: also with food, I just want to put that in there. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah. 625 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: Also in the very first scene, I never noticed this before, 626 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: kitkats You can see kit kats behind to you when 627 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: she's kind of melancholy laying in the back of the car. Yeah, 628 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: I didn't. I did not notice that the first time 629 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: through the second time I did, though, Oh yes, and 630 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: then uh, and then I wanted to talk about um 631 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: Zeneba's hut. All right. So so our Big bad which 632 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: you Baba has a twin sister, m who is basically 633 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: her opposite in every way. And at the end of 634 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 1: the film, Taho visits her home out in the country, which, 635 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:52,760 Speaker 1: in contrast to this big, ostentatious bathhouse um on Santa Spa, 636 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: is this very simple, lovely, just garden home out in 637 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: the country, and Zeneba serves her tea and cookies and 638 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: then some kind of cake. It looks like one of 639 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 1: those fluffy Japanese style cheesecakes, maybe um. And like she 640 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: has like dried onions and garlic and herbs and peppers 641 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: hanging up on the walls that are clearly just like 642 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: from the garden. And it is just you know, how 643 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: she's living, Like like Gihito walks in and there's just 644 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 1: a bowl of apples on the table, and so yeah, 645 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 1: it's um. It's it's a really lovely contrast. It is 646 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: and I think that was one of the big takeaways 647 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,439 Speaker 1: I had researching this, was the idea of food being 648 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 1: something healing, being this connective tissue, or being something very 649 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 1: harmful um and consuming too much, especially in the idea 650 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: of capitalism and consumerism, depending on how you consume it, 651 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 1: how you interact with it. Where it came from, I 652 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: found a whole essay, no joke about this movie and 653 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: on a Geary, like the difference between buying on a 654 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: Geary from a seven to eleven versus making it. Oh wow. Yeah, 655 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 1: it was fascinating because it wasn't it wasn't like judgmental, 656 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 1: but it was kind of saying, like, you know, in term, 657 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: what can we take from Miazaki's ideas around this and 658 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: the consumerism of buying on a Geary from a seven 659 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 1: to eleven versus one that is made from a friend 660 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: who's like, here, you need another one. Yeah, it was 661 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: just really fascinating. I recommend it. There's a lot written 662 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:46,240 Speaker 1: about this. Oh yeah, absolutely. I ran out of time again. 663 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: I never give myself enough time on these fictional foods 664 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: episodes because I'm like, what how much am I going 665 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: to need to Surely it will be less complicated than 666 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: figuring out No, aren't you glad we decided just for you, 667 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: decided just one movie instead of Oh I would have died, 668 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 1: I would I would not be here today. I would 669 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:12,439 Speaker 1: be exploring yeah, laptop. Oh gosh, yeah, I know, many, many, 670 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: many other food. Other other episodes will have to come 671 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 1: for other foods and other films, and they will because 672 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: I found a lot where I was like, oh yeah, 673 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: oh yeah, there's a lot of food in his movies. 674 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah. But for now, that's what we 675 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 1: have to say about the food of Spirited Away. It 676 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 1: is um. We We would love to hear from you 677 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: if you have a favorite Ghibli film or a favorite 678 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: food depiction in one of those films, And we do 679 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: have some some listener mail already prepared for you now, 680 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: and we are going to get into that after we 681 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: get back from one more quick break forward from our sponsors, 682 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: and we're back. Thank you sponsored, Yes, thank you, And 683 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm back with It's like the River Spirit. Yeah, yeah, 684 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 1: it is lovely music. Oh gosh, oh heck mhm wow, 685 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: hard transition. Yeah, it's something that's not lovely but is 686 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: fun kind of in the world of Spirited Away. I'm 687 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: so glad about this letter, Katie. I just listened to 688 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: the Rabbit episode and had to let Annie know that 689 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,439 Speaker 1: she is not alone. As she was telling Lauren about 690 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: the Rabbit moth Oven cartoon that traumatized her in the past, 691 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: I realized that I knew what she was talking about. 692 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 1: Thanks Annie for the traumatic flashback. I'm pretty sure i'd 693 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: block that out of my memory. Fair. It's disturbing. It 694 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: is highly disturbing, and yet I constantly I can't block 695 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:16,280 Speaker 1: it out. I can't. I still haven't watched that. I'm sorry, Okay, 696 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: all right, I know I told you it's very traumatizing, 697 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, please please watch this thing. Oh I 698 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 1: will no, I will no. I thank you for reminding 699 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: me about it. Oh, I can never forget. Clearly, I'm 700 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: so glad someone else I can't even say. I mean, 701 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you proved it existed when you sent it 702 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 1: to me, But to be fair, he didn't watch the videos, 703 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,479 Speaker 1: so it could have been anything. Um. Yeah, but I'm glad. 704 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 1: It's real. Glad confirmed, extra confirmed. Yes. Uh. Stacy wrote, Hello, ladies, 705 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: I just listened to the Peanut Butter classic. Annie. I 706 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 1: love peanut butter. My husband takes it to a new level. 707 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 1: He puts it on everything, waffless bananas and mint oreos. Gross. 708 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: We are big time natural peanut butter freaks over here. 709 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm really striving to clean up our act with food 710 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 1: Like I didn't think we were doing too badly Farmer's Market, Organics, etc. 711 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: But I've really been checking additives. So I have to 712 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: tell you about this nut butter company. And I discovered 713 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 1: Elliot's adult nut butters made in Oregon. Oh my god, 714 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,399 Speaker 1: I'm salivating. You'll never go back. And the chocolate hazelnut 715 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,280 Speaker 1: is also to die for. I'm drooling, just typing. Also, 716 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: I have a field trip suggestion. In Petaluma, California, there 717 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: is a creamery called Springhill Cheese. They pasture, raise a 718 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 1: herd of Jersey cows, milk them, and make cheese and 719 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: ice cream. You can order subscription boxes online or visit 720 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: the store in town. I bet you could get a 721 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: tour to feature them on the podcast. All the herbs 722 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: and whatever they use for flavoring their cheeses are either 723 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: grown themselves or by local farmers. Lastly, episode suggestion rice noodles. 724 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: Doesn't that explain itself? Yes? Yes, oh yeah, oh heck, 725 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 1: oh my godness. Also a cheese subscription box. I Annie 726 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 1: either needs or does not need that. It's both balance, 727 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 1: it's a balance. I love that these are called adult 728 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: nut butters as well. Yeah, you know, I'm very intrigued. 729 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,359 Speaker 1: They sound delicious to me. Sure, yeah, I'll I'll have 730 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 1: to I'll have to seek that out. I'll have to 731 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: seek both of these things out. Yes, And I will 732 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: say the mint oreos peanut butter did remind me of 733 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: the parent Trap with Lindsay Lohan. It was a platfoint. Okay, 734 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't a mint oreo, but it was an oreo 735 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 1: and that's how they were, like, we must bear trains. Anyway, 736 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: it came out in the ninety so I feel like 737 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 1: I'm not spoiling. No, No, I don't think. I think 738 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: that's just fine. Thank you. Wow. Thank you to both 739 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 1: of these listeners for writing. 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