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<v Speaker 1>Right justin middle of a field forty five to fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>bring wress in front of a leading Lions.

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<v Speaker 2>In his way.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Jeff Joniack.

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<v Speaker 2>Whitz is on, Donny go up? What was like playing

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<v Speaker 2>for coache Good done. I don't want to answer any

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<v Speaker 2>questions like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty one yards? What's Sunday stroll for?

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<v Speaker 2>Justin field?

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<v Speaker 1>Ye Bears et cetera with the voices of the Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>Bears Jeff Joniac. The Bears may have only three wins,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are unbeaten on Thursday Night Football as they

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<v Speaker 1>knock out the visiting Carolina Panthers sixteen thirteen. A suffocating

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<v Speaker 1>defensive effort and a very clean offensive effort as well,

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<v Speaker 1>no turnovers, no sacks, and they get the victory. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody with Super Bowl winning Bears guard Tom Fare. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Joniack, and welcome into episode thirty two of the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears et Cetera podcast. God to be with you each

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday Thursday, but this week on a Friday after the

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday night as we look ahead as well later in

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<v Speaker 1>the pod at the Detroit Lions coming up on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll interview Bears head coach Matt Eberfluss, who's at the

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<v Speaker 1>podium on Friday breaking down the Bears victory. Steinhoffels is

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<v Speaker 1>an employee owned furniture and mattress stove. Is it any

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<v Speaker 1>of their four Chicago land locations in Vernon Hills, Crystal Lake,

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<v Speaker 1>Downers Grove, and Horwood Heights or shop online at Steinhoffels

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. It wasn't always perfect big time, but Tyson

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<v Speaker 1>Bajen and the guys on the offense worked well with

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<v Speaker 1>the defense and special teams came through as well, despite

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<v Speaker 1>giving up a punt return touchdown to get to win.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your overall views?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was sitting there studying the stats of

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<v Speaker 2>this game Japan. If you didn't watch the game and

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<v Speaker 2>you just looked at the stats from outside, you would

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<v Speaker 2>think the Bears won by quite a bit. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they had one hundred and thirty three yards rushing to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think less than fifty yards rushing by Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they just had the time of possession. They

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<v Speaker 2>won by eight minutes. Like you mentioned, no sacks, A

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<v Speaker 2>pretty game on offense, but you know it was uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it went down to the wire and the Bears fought hard.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the defense is playing better. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the defensive backs, the linebackers, and the defensive line are

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<v Speaker 2>all complimenting each other well and hopefully that continues to improve.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, I think the biggest question mark going forward

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<v Speaker 2>after this game is the quarterback position because you have

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<v Speaker 2>the dynamic athlete and Justin Fields and you have a

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<v Speaker 2>newly arrived Tayston Bagent and you're gonna have to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be interesting to see how Justin heels

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<v Speaker 2>up through throughout a really important practice week.

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<v Speaker 1>If the thumb is good to go and he's cleared medically,

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<v Speaker 1>I would I would think he's going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>guy to start against the Detroit Lions. You don't lose

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<v Speaker 1>your spot due to injury, and that was an injury

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<v Speaker 1>that's taken some four weeks now, but it's a critical

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<v Speaker 1>one given the thumb, taking snaps, taking hits, the whole bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, and after the four games that Tyson

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<v Speaker 2>Beagent started and he wants who out of those four,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's evidence that he needs more practice time

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<v Speaker 2>against the experience of some defenses that have an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to work a game plan against him for the whole week.

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<v Speaker 2>And I like where Tyson Vagen's earrow is going. But

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<v Speaker 2>when you talk about Justin Fields and what he means

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<v Speaker 2>to the overall performance of the offense, and considering what

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<v Speaker 2>we saw on the Thursday night against the Washington Commanders,

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<v Speaker 2>he can has an exciting relationship developing with DJ Moore.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Darnelle Mooney has kind of burst out of

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<v Speaker 2>the scene a little bit more since Justin has been injured.

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<v Speaker 2>And we all know what cole Kmet is capable of,

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<v Speaker 2>and they always have a reliable running game. So all

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<v Speaker 2>those you know that you take into account, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be interesting. But you know there's gonna be other

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<v Speaker 2>positions that there's going to be interesting decisions that are

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<v Speaker 2>going to need to be made that are really going

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<v Speaker 2>to factor in the overall team performance of this group.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're referring to Herbert as one. He is

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<v Speaker 1>about ready to come back. He has that twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>day window to come back from his injury. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Deontay Foreman has been a real, real impressive player, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think players enjoy I mean, I read a quote

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<v Speaker 1>from Darnell Wright talking about the way he runs the

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<v Speaker 1>football as physical as he does. The quote if he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it. I'll be damned if I don't

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<v Speaker 1>go and do it that way. And that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear from an offensive lineman with a running

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<v Speaker 1>back that is a battering ram or as I referred

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<v Speaker 1>to it as bully ball a few times last night.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love the way he runs, but I also

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<v Speaker 1>love the way Clill Herbert runs, and he is a

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<v Speaker 1>game break threat in that backfield. Roshawn Johnson still finding

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<v Speaker 1>his way back, and they will have big decisions at

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<v Speaker 1>the running back position. You can't play everyone, and you

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<v Speaker 1>still have the full back is going to be back

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<v Speaker 1>at some point blasting game. You've got Travis Homer, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to keep him on special teams, and Darrington Evans

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<v Speaker 1>has done a nice job filling in. So it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>decision time for Ryan Poles and Maddy Burflush for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, Jeff, to me is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest decisions is going to be made that will affect

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<v Speaker 2>this team as much as the running back position is

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive guard position. True, because you know you have

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<v Speaker 2>a free agent that you signed to a big money

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<v Speaker 2>contract hopefully going to come back and get back in

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<v Speaker 2>the competitive mix. You have Tevin Jenkins, who's playing as

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<v Speaker 2>well as any offensive guard in the division, and luckily enough,

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<v Speaker 2>he has some experience at the left side as well

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<v Speaker 2>as the right. You have a season veteran like Cody

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<v Speaker 2>Whitehair that can probably fill in on any position on

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive line. But that is going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>huge decision going forward, and I'm really interested to see

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<v Speaker 2>what they're going to do about that. And now that

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<v Speaker 2>all the defensive backs are back in the mix, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be interesting to see if Tremade Edmonds is

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<v Speaker 2>ready to come back on defense. So I think in

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<v Speaker 2>this ten day window of opportunity, and I did ask

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Eberflus last night when you and I interviewed him

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<v Speaker 2>after the game, when is the process of this decision

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<v Speaker 2>going to be being made. They're going to have a

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<v Speaker 2>personnel meeting before the weekend begins, and then we probably

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<v Speaker 2>won't know anything until next Wednesday, when that's the real

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<v Speaker 2>reporting of any practices going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's look at snapcounts as we bring this Bears et

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<v Speaker 1>cetera podcast to you take a chance download the Bent

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<v Speaker 1>Rivers app today. So, as usual, TJ. Edwards plays he

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<v Speaker 1>played every snap. Tyreek Stevenson Jaquon Brisker, a full return,

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Johnson, Kyler Gordon with sixty snaps defensively, so he

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<v Speaker 1>was on the field for the entire game, and Eddie

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson with sixty as well. And Kyler o'gordon is really

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<v Speaker 1>playing like he was starting to play during training camp

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<v Speaker 1>before his injury. He was all over the place. And

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<v Speaker 1>they certainly as I used that word to describe Brisker

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago before his concussion, deployed Kyler

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon as well. He hits hard, he's super athletic. He

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<v Speaker 1>had eight tackles. He had some pass breakups too, So

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of great things happen. And from that nickel spot,

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<v Speaker 1>which means in this defense with Matt Eberflu's running, it

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<v Speaker 1>is a good combo. He loves those nickels.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know the thing that gives them When you

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<v Speaker 2>have an athlete like Brisker and you have one like

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle Gordon, you have the experience of Eddie Jackson, it

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<v Speaker 2>gives you a certain rotation of the defensive backs that

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<v Speaker 2>can keep a quarterback thinking throughout the cadence and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you can get into a chance where you know Tyree

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<v Speaker 2>Stevenson should have had an interception last night, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think there was another one who else, Sanborn? Sanborn, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>could have had an interception. So now if you can

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<v Speaker 2>take one of those two plays and get an interception

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<v Speaker 2>out of it, you're talking about an extra possession for

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<v Speaker 2>the offense. And you know, then there's a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of reluctancy by the opponent's quarterback to throw into those

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<v Speaker 2>tight windows. So I like the versatility that it gives

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<v Speaker 2>the back end of the defense, but I like more

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<v Speaker 2>as they have a rotation of eight defensive linemen, who

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<v Speaker 2>when they have that rotation on the back end of

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<v Speaker 2>the defense, they can have a fresh group of defensive

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<v Speaker 2>linemen up in front, one of them rushing the pass

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<v Speaker 2>or trying to stop the run.

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<v Speaker 1>And Gatkway had the most at forty eight sweat with

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<v Speaker 1>forty four and at eight pressures according to the Next

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<v Speaker 1>Gen Stats, that's huge. He is one of the top

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<v Speaker 1>five in the league in that category right now, Justin Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>who I thought a terrific game, got a career high

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<v Speaker 1>in pressures. He was at forty one. Now this is

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<v Speaker 1>where where it gets interesting. We talked about Javon Dexter

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<v Speaker 1>getting more snaps and Zach Pickens. Pickens didn't get many

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<v Speaker 1>more than a week ago he had twelve, but Dexter

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<v Speaker 1>played nearly half the snaps he got twenty nine, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I felt his presence as well. He had

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<v Speaker 1>three pressures and that's all. You know, sweat being the

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<v Speaker 1>multiplier there, you got to pay attention to him, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's helped everybody on the defensive line clearly it did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, Rashem Green has a sec DeMarcus Walker's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's has the ability to play up and

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<v Speaker 2>down the line of scrimmage. Javon Dexter are starting to

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<v Speaker 2>use his length as a real asset. And you see

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<v Speaker 2>that from other defensive defensive linemen around the league, how

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<v Speaker 2>they used their length to increase the competitiveness against the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive linemen they're facing. So if Tavon Dexter is able

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<v Speaker 2>to continue the improvement process, I think he'll probably end

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<v Speaker 2>up getting more snaps and up and down the line

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<v Speaker 2>of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 1>Rex and Jones got a good rating from PFF for

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<v Speaker 1>his performance too against the pass rush and again no

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<v Speaker 1>sacks by the offensive line, and yes they got one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty three yards, but it needed thirty seven carries,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what, I don't care. I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>what the yard for carry averages. The thirty seven carries

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<v Speaker 1>was big, and that's what we called for. We called

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<v Speaker 1>for that this and I hope it continues. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>justin moving forward, or Tyson has to play another game,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows. But I just want to see them continue

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<v Speaker 1>to utilize those guys up front. It's what they do best.

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<v Speaker 1>They get off the ball, they get in space, they

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<v Speaker 1>can pull, they can do a great job getting out

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<v Speaker 1>on screens when the timing's right. Just put it on

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line and put it on those backs to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of set up the play action passing game and

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<v Speaker 1>be better on first down and have shorter third downs.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay. I don't know how you look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, Jeff. Look, I love the whole stable of

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<v Speaker 2>running backs the Bears have, and that's including Kyrie blasting game.

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<v Speaker 2>If you even have to put a couple of those

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<v Speaker 2>guys on multiple special teams in order to keep them

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<v Speaker 2>active on game day, I would be willing to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Chubble Hubbard. Last night with Chubba Hubbard in the

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina Panthers game. He's now elevated to one of their

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<v Speaker 2>starting running backs. He's also on special teams, So don't

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<v Speaker 2>take away or don't make a guy unactive on game

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<v Speaker 2>day because you need a special team or I would

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<v Speaker 2>be willing to put a running back in on special

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<v Speaker 2>teams in order to keep them active so you have

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<v Speaker 2>that fresh group of running backs that you can continue

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<v Speaker 2>that running game process.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just great to see the offensive line playoff seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two snaps as a unit. There were no changes. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how many times that's happened this season. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all seventy two snaps, I can't recall. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to go and look it up. But that was good.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Dj Moore and Cole Komt they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the field for almost every snap. Sixty seven

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty six. Moon he got forty eight the running game,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Foreman got thirty eight, Roshawan got thirty, Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>Scott e Q Saint Brown he's got twenty eight snaps,

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<v Speaker 1>Tenyon got twenty three. Mercedes Lewis in the run game

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<v Speaker 1>with twenty so it's a good, good spread. I like

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<v Speaker 1>the way everybody got on the field for this game?

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<v Speaker 2>How about that? How about that fourth down catch by

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Scott? Though, if you want to talk about how

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<v Speaker 2>do you earn extra snaps? Can we put you on

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<v Speaker 2>the field and some of the most important down in

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<v Speaker 2>distances and still consider you a reliable option. That fourth

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<v Speaker 2>down catch he made and then took a big wallop

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<v Speaker 2>after it impressive. And he had he had a nice,

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<v Speaker 2>really nice wide receiver and around that was also impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess the more you get involved in the offense,

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<v Speaker 2>the more it challenges the defense to be aware of you.

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<v Speaker 1>Two double digit plays right there, and he was I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to him after the game. He's not gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of touches. He knows that it had a

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<v Speaker 1>big smile on his face. He was dressed in this

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<v Speaker 1>all black Bears coat and shirt that the NFLPA sent him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was just I think he was just genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>excited about getting a win, but also making two plays

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<v Speaker 1>that moved the chains. They got first downs out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was another catch he made a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. Same thing gets up in the air, I

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<v Speaker 1>think embracing himself for a hit, you know, as he

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<v Speaker 1>moves forward in his NFL crew, maybe doesn't go up

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<v Speaker 1>in the air to get it. He just makes the

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<v Speaker 1>catch and then you can make a play with it,

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<v Speaker 1>but your feet on the ground. Oftentimes receivers do leave

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<v Speaker 1>their feet and they don't necessarily have to. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying he didn't have to do in that one, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to see it because he's got the juice,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got speed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what I was, Jeff. I was also

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<v Speaker 2>encouraged by his kickoff return because I don't really think

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<v Speaker 2>you know a lot about a guy until you see

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<v Speaker 2>him get a live action in game kickoff return. Is

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<v Speaker 2>he going to attack it with speeding to try to

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<v Speaker 2>make some moves on initial contact, and is he going

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<v Speaker 2>to end the place safely with the ball into his hands.

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<v Speaker 2>All those indicators initially are answered for me. It's difficult

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<v Speaker 2>now because there's a lot of kicks that are not returned. However,

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<v Speaker 2>the weather's going to challenge two speed. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>The weather's going to change too. You're gonna see yeah kicks.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's nice to have his speed and willingness back

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<v Speaker 2>there to be involved in the kicking game.

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<v Speaker 1>We're brought to you by PNC Official Bank of the Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the defense because two point seven of

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<v Speaker 1>carry a long run of nine. It's been outstanding all

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<v Speaker 1>season long, the run defense, third down getting better. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been a sore subject, obviously, but they did a nice

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<v Speaker 1>job on third down. And I got to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>their quarterback because we touched on it in the pregame.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe just about the size of a quarterback gets

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of attention. He's a sub six foot quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>And I saw this online today and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>from one of the guys, maybe it was Tony Zalas

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<v Speaker 1>on the broadcast on Amazon. But you know, the idea is,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a good quarterback in there, and then if

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<v Speaker 1>there's not enough around him, and they gave away DJ

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<v Speaker 1>Moore to get him, basically, they traded away, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Christian McCaffrey to clear the path to get a higher

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<v Speaker 1>draft pick last year and to try to reload, and

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<v Speaker 1>teams go through all these machinations to find the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's not enough around him to actually have

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<v Speaker 1>immediate success. So that's the thinking, and the quote here

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<v Speaker 1>is then people begin to rush the judgment on the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>and the quarterback then starts to think maybe he's not

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<v Speaker 1>good enough, and he starts to lose confidence. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>look comfortable, and that's a credit to the Bears making

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<v Speaker 1>him feel uncomfortable in the pocket when that pocket started

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<v Speaker 1>to really act like a vice grip on him. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not easy seeing over six foot six players, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that really impacted him last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce, y'all no doubt about it, because again we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it in the pregame. When you think about the

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<v Speaker 2>support and Cassidy played with in college, you play against

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of five star high school athletes that go

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<v Speaker 2>on to have them play their career in Alabama. You're

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<v Speaker 2>always playing on the lead. You're always being protected by

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<v Speaker 2>an offensive line that doesn't allow a lot of penetration,

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<v Speaker 2>so you have clear sight lines. Now, when you're the

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<v Speaker 2>first pick in the NFL Draft, you're expected to elevate

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<v Speaker 2>the talent around you, and I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be difficult when you know it's so kind when you

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<v Speaker 2>say a sub six foot quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just a you know, that's like better than me

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<v Speaker 1>calling mcdy.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a sub six foot quarterback, you know, and he

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<v Speaker 2>got mad when he called them five nine and three quarters.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I remember Drew Brees at the scouting combine. He

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<v Speaker 1>insisted he was six feet on. You know, the first

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<v Speaker 1>measurement wasn't and he was livid.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just mad.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that probably carried all the way through

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<v Speaker 1>his great Hall of Fame NFL career. But I'll never

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<v Speaker 1>forget being up here at Hallis Hall and I was

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<v Speaker 1>working at another place. I had to do a TV

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Kay mcdown when he got drafted. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>and oh, here in Alisa with the little left. He

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<v Speaker 1>cave mcdown and he shot a look at me like

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<v Speaker 1>I just said, the worst thing in the world. He

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<v Speaker 1>goes who you call him little, and he was looking

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<v Speaker 1>down on top of me and he was a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit bigger than me. But uh but yeah, you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't mess with the quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's always a haunting measurement time in all

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<v Speaker 2>of our lives, you know, for me and my high

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<v Speaker 2>school program, I tell you, in my college program, I

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<v Speaker 2>was always listed at six ' five because they just

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<v Speaker 2>ask you how tall you are. Then you go to

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<v Speaker 2>the combine and they make you stand up against the

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<v Speaker 2>wall to pick your toes up off the ground. And

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<v Speaker 2>then they stick a ruler on your skull and they

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<v Speaker 2>measure you from that. In the first time they barked

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<v Speaker 2>out six three and three quarters, I remember looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the guy and I'm not six three and three. So

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<v Speaker 2>whether you're you know what to jeff. The thing about

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<v Speaker 2>it is when you get measured in those circumstances, it

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<v Speaker 2>costs you money. True, That's why we all want to

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<v Speaker 2>be taller than what we actually are.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm five to seven and a half and that's on

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<v Speaker 1>a good day, and I'm probably gonna be shrinking here

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<v Speaker 1>soon at sixty one. But is You know, it's funny

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<v Speaker 1>because on my board I always write the exact height

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<v Speaker 1>that they give at the combine for players, and Tom

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<v Speaker 1>sees my board he makes cracks about the three quarters

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<v Speaker 1>of the six six three and an eighth, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like that matters. It might matter. It might be the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between a tip pass and the defensive line or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows, you're right, you're right, But I guess when

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<v Speaker 2>it affected me, you know, I took offense to it,

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<v Speaker 2>just like Drew Brees, Doug Flutie, Cave mcdown, whomever we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. We just happened to be talking about Bryce Young,

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<v Speaker 2>who saw last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd give anything to be six to three, trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>anything in the world. So Bryce young fifty five percent

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<v Speaker 1>completion against the Bears is worst since Week one and

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<v Speaker 1>his debut against the Falcons. He did have one really

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<v Speaker 1>good play and Brisker are coming over and coverage on

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Strawn, the practice squad player caught a forty five

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<v Speaker 1>yard pass. That's an unbelievable athlete from a small school.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a great play. That was That was the

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<v Speaker 1>first time all year year he made a play like that,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if this is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>him or does he have it in him with better

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<v Speaker 1>talent around him. And again that's their issue, not hours

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<v Speaker 1>on our podcast. But I'm just curious because he was

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<v Speaker 1>the number one overall pick.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was a great pass placement because when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at where that pass was, it was in

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<v Speaker 2>the direction of going to the sidelines towards the hands

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<v Speaker 2>of the receiver. So if the receiver wouldn't have caught

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<v Speaker 2>the ball and it would have tipped off his fingers,

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<v Speaker 2>it would have harmlessly bounced out of bounds. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>in the field of play, so I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>a really smart pass by Bryce Young to give his

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<v Speaker 2>receiver that opportunity where it's either going to succeed or

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<v Speaker 2>failure or and the success is going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>great catch.

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<v Speaker 1>Good news, Chicago United Airlines is getting brand new planes

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<v Speaker 1>Proud to fly the Chicago Bears and you too. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about the defense and just in general. As

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<v Speaker 1>Maddieberflus pointed it out, first time since nineteen ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 1>zero sacks allowed, no turnovers, and no touchdowns allowed by

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<v Speaker 1>the defense. It also happened on your nineteen ninety one team,

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<v Speaker 1>So congratulations, no sacks allowed and no turnovers for your offense.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who it was against, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in nineteen ninety one. But that's the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of complimentary football that he wants to play. And there

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<v Speaker 1>was a situation where the Bears did for six punts,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was one starting field position was the Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight. After a nice punt by Gil and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears drove the thirty eight yards and nine plays. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the only touchdown of the game, Deontay Foreman's four

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<v Speaker 1>yard run. They have to do more of that, the

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<v Speaker 1>more complimentary football. And I know people get weary about

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<v Speaker 1>the cliche of coaches and they talk about complimentary football,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is a fact of life. Any football, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to play complimentary football. And I think for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part last night the Bears played complimentary football as

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<v Speaker 1>best as they could.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I think on that touchdown drive,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, to me, the best play of it it

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<v Speaker 2>was the touchdown run by Deontay Foreman, all even though

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<v Speaker 2>it was only a couple of yards, because if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at his last muscular effort to get the ball

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<v Speaker 2>across the goal line before his legs touched the ground,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a really great move and it was a

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<v Speaker 2>great display of power with defenders on top of them

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<v Speaker 2>to get into the end zone. It just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>gives you a little snippet of the desired Deontay Foreman

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<v Speaker 2>has with the ball in his hands.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you watch the tape. Well. The offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>played well. Blocking Derek Brown was going to be a challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have Brian Burns. They were down to backups

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<v Speaker 1>at so many positions. They're already down three starting line

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<v Speaker 1>back the top three outside land backers aren't playing, the

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<v Speaker 1>top inside linebacker isn't playing, their top two cornerbacks aren't playing,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of them is not going to come back.

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<v Speaker 1>But Derek Brown's good. He had ten tackles, two tackles

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<v Speaker 1>for lost, and two quarterback hits. What'd you see how

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with him on the interior.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's a guy that the Bears tried to

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<v Speaker 2>single block every once in a while, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of plays he beat Tevin Jenkins, one of

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<v Speaker 2>them being a tackle for loss. But when you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about a six three to two hundred and forty pounds

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<v Speaker 2>player that has great maneuverability, whether he wants to play

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<v Speaker 2>to the outside edge of the guard or on the

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<v Speaker 2>interior or the defensive line, he's rarely is the focus

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<v Speaker 2>of the point of attack because you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>get great movement against him. He's more the type of

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<v Speaker 2>player that you would like to kind of steer clear

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<v Speaker 2>of and go to the outside or the opposite edge

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<v Speaker 2>of him. But you know, he's like the other dominating

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<v Speaker 2>defensive lineman that we've seen throughout. You know, our lifetime

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL that you're going to have to be

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<v Speaker 2>aware of him. You're going to have to understand the

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<v Speaker 2>formations you use offensively to put him in the worst

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<v Speaker 2>possible position, and then you're going to have to run

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<v Speaker 2>some plays to try to tire him out a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit like they have this year in the Raiders game

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<v Speaker 2>or some of the other games out there, that they've

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<v Speaker 2>really tried to use that outside edge, and that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of similar what you're going to have to do this

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<v Speaker 2>week against Detroit is really take advantage of that outside

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<v Speaker 2>running game with receivers, running backs and anybody else who

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<v Speaker 2>can get out there.

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<v Speaker 1>After watching so much of this season, knowing the personnel

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<v Speaker 1>as you do and what they're best at, what, in

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion, is the Bears go to running play?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a good question, you know. I again, I

0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 2>think it's personnel, you know, dictated. If you have a

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<v Speaker 2>good dynamic defensive tackle, that quick pitch when they say

0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 2>they're in shotgun formation, the running back is lined up

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.480
<v Speaker 2>to either the right hip or the left hip. The

0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:47.800
<v Speaker 2>quarterback gets it and pitches it out immediately because they

0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:50.520
<v Speaker 2>have good tight end blockers all you know. Eighty five

0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:55.840
<v Speaker 2>eighty four eighteen. Steven Carlson played you know eighty eight

0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:58.240
<v Speaker 2>last night. So they have good edge blockers, but they

0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:01.160
<v Speaker 2>also have good offensive tacks that could pull and get

0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:04.119
<v Speaker 2>to the outside to lead the immediate sweep. Plus they

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:06.880
<v Speaker 2>have offensive guards that can be able to get outside

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 2>if they want to run a guard let sweep. Plus

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:13.159
<v Speaker 2>they have screenplays that can work the edge. But to me,

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:17.400
<v Speaker 2>if there is dominant interior defensive lineman that quick pitch

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:20.359
<v Speaker 2>to the outside, and then if there is a better

0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:24.880
<v Speaker 2>outside contained running the defensive ends, they have the ability

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:29.520
<v Speaker 2>to have really solid power double teams created maybe by

0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:32.640
<v Speaker 2>a Darnell Wright and Tevin Jenkins that they're really well

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:36.320
<v Speaker 2>organized about getting movement on the first level defensive tackle

0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:39.000
<v Speaker 2>and still getting one of the two athletes up and

0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:41.640
<v Speaker 2>getting a second level block. And we've seen a lot

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.760
<v Speaker 2>of those plays. You know, the one in New Orleans

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 2>that Deonta Foreman was tripped by a shoelace tackle and

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:51.200
<v Speaker 2>got up punching the ground because he knew that was

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:53.639
<v Speaker 2>going to be a touchdown. That was an inside the

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 2>tackle really over the outside shoulder of Tevin Jenkins. So

0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:01.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot of it is personnel dictated, but I think

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:03.959
<v Speaker 2>the Bears and Chris Morgan, the offensive line coach, are

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 2>fortunate that they have the personnel that they could take

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:10.679
<v Speaker 2>advantage of their most vulnerable defensive spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we really didn't talk about last night. On third

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 1>and seven, the last snap that could put away the game,

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and I kind of already had given my fade to

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:21.760
<v Speaker 1>black after the missfield goal, the long field goal attempt

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>by Pinero, which is not good because there was going

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 1>to still be time on the clock, and I just

0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of assumed a little bit too much there. I

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.200
<v Speaker 1>think he thought to Orange, I did both.

0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I did both. I did both.

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it was the exuberance of finally getting a

0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:41.680
<v Speaker 1>victory again, but doing the math and knowing how the

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 1>defense played, I didn't feel a lot of comfort in

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the fact that or scared. I wasn't scared the Carolina

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 1>was going to be able to move the football, but

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:51.199
<v Speaker 1>you just never know you could get a deep penalty

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 1>and set up a field goal to tie the game.

0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 1>So Luke Getzi, I think deserves a lot more credit.

0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.639
<v Speaker 1>We didn't really touch on it. Third and seven, and

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.879
<v Speaker 1>that's situation, and again it's a group think. It's a

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.639
<v Speaker 1>decision you could either run the ball and punt or

0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>go for it on a pass. And I think that

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:13.440
<v Speaker 1>third and seven was a really gutsy, getsy call and

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:16.200
<v Speaker 1>it was executed perfectly by both the quarterback and the

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 1>receiver taking the pop in this case, Darnell Mooney, were

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<v Speaker 1>okay with the decision. Did you think it was the

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 1>right decision and would you do it that way again?

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:29.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was okay with the decision. They were getting

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:32.159
<v Speaker 2>good pass protection by the offensive line. It was evident

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 2>all night because there was times that Tyson Beagen may

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:37.679
<v Speaker 2>have been holding onto the ball a little bit too long. However,

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 2>in the biggest moment of the biggest play really to

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 2>decide the game, Tyson Bagent stood back there confidently with

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:48.160
<v Speaker 2>good protection up front, and went to a really trustworthy

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 2>receiver in Darnell Mooney, and he delivered the ball that

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 2>it was going to be first touched by the offensive player,

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 2>and then it was a gutsy catch by Darnell Mooney.

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:00.640
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm glad the fact that they stay aggressive,

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:03.480
<v Speaker 2>because there was a play earlier in the game in

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 2>the third quarter when it was third and eighteen and

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 2>they ran a draw. I didn't like that play. I thought,

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:12.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's an opportunity there with so many, you know,

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 2>with the DJ Moore and the Darnelle Mooney and Cole

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Kamet and Tyler Scott, that they could have gone for

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 2>some type of pass over the middle with you know,

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 2>to see if they could get a big first down

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:27.479
<v Speaker 2>at that point. So yeah, I can disagree with some plays,

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 2>but I agree with that play.

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>So in the retrospect now of four starts in a

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>quarter and a half, I guess of playing time for

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Tyson Bage. And he went from this unknown that few

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 1>people outside of Chicago knew about from Shepherd University to

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:46.679
<v Speaker 1>being on the set of Amazon with all those guys

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 1>and the ex players and Andrew Whitworth and Tony Gonzolez,

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Richard Sherman. Richard Sherman, that's who the quote. That's the

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 1>quote that I gave earlier. That was Richard Sherman. Now

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 1>that I think about it, about quarterbacks, and he should

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.120
<v Speaker 1>know he tried to take away a lot of balls

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 1>from quarterbacks back in the secondary. But he was on

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.199
<v Speaker 1>the set with Bears fans going crazy at the end

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:13.880
<v Speaker 1>of the game at Soldier Field. But that is a big, long,

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:18.640
<v Speaker 1>big hop from one extreme to the next. And now

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't know he may not play another

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:25.640
<v Speaker 1>snap this season. Have we learned enough to know enough

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 1>about Tyson Beagen's future in the NFL regardless of where

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>on the depth chart that is, Is there enough to

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>him that makes you feel really good that he's a

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Bear right now as an undrafted rookie free agent?

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I think Tyson Beagent most importantly has

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 2>given himself an indicator that he belongs in the NFL.

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 2>And if you give him the opportunity to study the

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 2>rest of this season going to the offseason, and you know,

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't, He's never going to be a guy that

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 2>needs to be encouraged to be in the weight room

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 2>and be in shape. You know, that's the standard that

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 2>he lives by. So everything that Tyson Beagen has learned

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 2>about himself and what he's going to do in the

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 2>off season to be become more educated about NFL defenses,

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.919
<v Speaker 2>about a better understanding of the Chicago Bears offense, about

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.440
<v Speaker 2>the job requirements, I'm all in on Tyson Beijen and

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 2>I hope he has an opportunity to be a Bear

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:24.120
<v Speaker 2>for a long time in whatever role he achieves.

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I certainly, if I'm looking at it from an

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 1>analyst perspective, feel very comfortable with him being on that

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>depth chart. He just there's just something about him, for sure.

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Busy Heart Seltzer, the official Heart Seltzer of the Chicago Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's touch on special teams before we wrap up and

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 1>give a quick sneak peek of Detroit. Kyro Santos deserves

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>a ton of credit for that fifty four yarder that

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>became a forty nine yarder because of the Cody Whitehair penalty,

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and he nailed it and went three for three. He's

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>had a really good season. He's had a really good

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>time as a Chicago Bear, and he's really kicked well

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>in Soldier Field and then cleaning up the punt return

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>that was, according to Next Gen Stats, the third most

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>improbable punt return touchdown since twenty twenty one because Smith Marsett.

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Smith Marsett ran seventy nine yards for the touchdown, but

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 1>actually traveled one hundred and six and a half yards

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>from snap to score at nineteen point five miles per hour,

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>so he avoided Josh Blackwell. It was coming in strong

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>and then got past Patrick's scales. But there was no

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>lane integrity in that return and he just ran away

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>for the touchdown that was the only one of the

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>game for Carolina. Those two components of special teams, what

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>were your thoughts.

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, it was a banger punt. And the thing

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 2>about it is when you have a punt that carries

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 2>significant distances and maybe he doesn't have the hang time

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 2>attached to it, there's a certain separation to the first

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 2>line of defense and the aggressiveness of the returner. When

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 2>he sees those open lanes, it's full steam ahead at

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.959
<v Speaker 2>attacking the goal line. And I think that's what happened.

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 2>It was the per for combination of a long punt

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 2>and a returner that was hungry. Listen, it's not a

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 2>weekly occurrence. We're not sitting here talking about, oh my god,

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 2>another punt return against the Bears. It's just that happened

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 2>to be a punt return against the Bears on Thursday

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 2>night football, when scoring, you know, was the priority because

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, there wasn't a lot of points scored at

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 2>that point, so you know, you give credit where credit

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 2>is due to the returner. But I don't think it's

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 2>something that Richard high Towers special teams. You know, are

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, under the gun because this is a regular

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 2>occurrence about Santos. I can't say enough about the kid,

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, kickers kind of have a thankless job,

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 2>and I give him a hard time, probably as much

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 2>as anybody. But when he was backed up five yards

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 2>after making a big kick, and again we talk about

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 2>how important points were in this game, I you know,

0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I admire him and he's got a lot of courage

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 2>and he went out there without hesitation and bang that

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 2>next kick and you see the results of it.

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<v Speaker 1>they got ready for the Detroit Lions. Should be getting

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>some news by midweek. As Tom mentioned at the outset

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>of this podcast on Justin Fields and a likely I

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>would say return, but who knows. It's up to a

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of different factors. But let's take a look at

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 1>the Detroit Lions. I begin with the line of scrimmage,

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and their offensive line is highly regarded. It's done a

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>great job. Jared Goff has done a great job. Jamiir

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Gibbs and David Montgomery doing a great job. And then

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>you got to always be aware of Aiden Hutchinson. On

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the defensive side of the ball. They're starting two rickeys,

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>one inside linebacker, a strong side linebacker, I should say,

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and Brian Branch this nickelback that they have. But they've

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>got mojo and they're going to be home in a

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>really raucous environment.

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when was the first year that you were in

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Detroit Stadium?

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean the new one.

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 2>No, since you've been going to nineteen ninety seven, Okay,

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 2>since nineteen ninety seven, Jeff. This is gonna be your

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 2>loudest experience you've ever had inside Detroit Stadium, and it's

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 2>probably gonna be the loudest I've ever had since nineteen

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 2>eighty five. And I think that is a real weapon nowadays,

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 2>because when you talk about Dan Campbell, the head coach

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 2>who will never be in a stance, and the change

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 2>of a culture and the way the Detroit fans feel

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 2>about them, we've seen them travel on the road better

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 2>and we'll see a reflection of it. So it's something

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 2>that the Bears are going to have to be able

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 2>to overcome. Organize snap count on the line of scrimmage

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>so you don't play into the hands of a guy

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 2>like Hutchinson, and then you're gonna have to be able

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 2>to attack Jared Goff, get to him and make him

0:32:56.400 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 2>look like a slow, older quarterback by some pressure in

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 2>challenging his his fundamental foundation throwing position. They have a

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 2>good offensive line, they have a good running game. David Montgomery,

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 2>ex Chicago Bear, is over there, so I think it's

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 2>going to be an emotional game for him, sat Eq

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Saint Brown's brother is over there. Emotional game for those

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 2>two in their parents. So there's these little different elements

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 2>and factors that will play into the game, but you

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of don't recognize them because you know, you're not

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 2>aware of how much the crowd contributes to good defensive

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 2>football play in Detroit until we're up in the booth,

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, hearing it from above.

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 1>And the Bears trying to stop yet one more losing streak,

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and that's in the division, eight straight consecutive games lost.

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>The Lions going to LA to meet the Chargers tomorrow,

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>so they'll have a long wide back before they take

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 1>on the Bears. The Lions at six and two on

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>top of the division. All right, that's going to wrap

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>us up for our podcast. Appreciate you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us. For Tom There, I'm Jeff Joniac. Thanks for listening.

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.000
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0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.840
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