1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two Monday 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: hanging out with us. Encourage you to go download the podcast. 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Make sure you don't miss a single moment. Can search 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: out my name Clay Travis. You can search out Buck 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: Sexton and you'll be sure that you get every single hour, 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: every single minute at your convenience. We also love all 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: of the four hundred and fifty plus stations out there 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: in all fifty stage rolling through with the show. Appreciate 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: you helping us to have a good time, and I 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: hope you're having a good time as well. I've already 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: talked about a lot of different stories out there. Fauci 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: said yesterday on CBS it was too soon to know 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: if Christmas needed to be canceled. Then he came back 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: this morning on CNN when everybody was ripping him and saying, hey, 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: you know, most of us have started to live our 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: normal life, and took the opposite side and said he 19 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: thought that it was going to be okay for people 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: who were vaccinated to have a normal Christmas. We've just 21 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: been talking about Senator Cinema of Arizona chased into the bathroom. 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: Joe Biden has an opportunity to discuss it, and not 23 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: surprisingly he whiffed said he thought it was inappropriate, but 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: that also it was a part of the process and 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: a lot of other stories surrounding the budget that will 26 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: continue to follow. Again, they got to get to fifty votes. 27 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: They got to figure out what the number is that 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: Cinema and Mansion are willing to support. The time frame 29 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: now seems instead of being last week Buck when all 30 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: of this was expected to be completed, now they are 31 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: hoping to Democrats are to get it done before October 32 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: is complete. But one of the things that I think 33 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: is so striking right now is the two different worlds 34 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: that many of us live in. If you are listening 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 1: to me right now in a red state, your life 36 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: is almost one hundred percent normal. It's as if COVID 37 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: never really existed, by and large. If you are listening 38 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: to me, even in a blue state, in a rural area, 39 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: I think that could also very much be true. But 40 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: if you're in New York City, or you're in la 41 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: or you're in a major coastal city. By and large, 42 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: you were still living under the authoritarian footprint of your mayors, 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: your governors, and certainly your president. And I always find 44 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: that dichotomy to be really interesting in experience. And Buck 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: you had that experience on steroids, I would say, on 46 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: this past weekend, because you got on a plane in 47 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: New York City had almost no freedoms, and when you 48 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: landed two and a half hours later in Birmingham, there 49 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: were almost no restrictions at all. You and our producer 50 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: Ali both how jarring was that dichotomy for you to 51 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: go from the center of restricted America to the wide 52 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: open Red States. It's a little bit in twenty twenty one, 53 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: like I would assume the closest thing in American can 54 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: get to crossing from East Germany to West Germany, you know, 55 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties. I mean, that's that's really what 56 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: it feels like. It feels a little bit like, hold 57 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: on a second, Why is it that this part of 58 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: the country has embraced normalcy? And and in New York 59 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: I'll tell you it keeps getting more and we get 60 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: closer winter. Everyone knows winter time is the worst time 61 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: for this virus in the northeast. And that's just clear. 62 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: That's obvious. Even Fauci says that, and that's one of 63 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: the things that he says that's actually true. So they're 64 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: they're dealing with that anxiety building up, and they're doing 65 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: it by masking up out. You see a lot of 66 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: people here outside with masks on. I wouldn't say everybody 67 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: by any stretch, but it's twenty to thirty percent walking 68 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: around in midtown of people outside folks by themselves masks on. 69 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: You see people riding bicycles and the bike lanes here. 70 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: For some reason, there's a correlation between bicycle lane people 71 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: and mask wearing. I don't know what it is exactly, 72 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: but it's there, and Clay I would I would point 73 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: this out though too. What you see in Alabama is 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: there are signs everywhere that say mask preferred or like 75 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: consider wearing a mask, and everyone's just like, we're not 76 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: doing that. You know, there's a very different attitude about it, 77 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: with a few exceptions. But on the plane playing their 78 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: plane back. I mean, this is as long as some 79 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: vestiges of Fauciism remains, it's only a matter of time 80 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: before Fauciism returns that's the problem. This is what I've 81 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: been saying along even when they thought the vaccine was 82 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: the end, Clay has said, Notice they never got rid 83 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: of masks on planes. Why they never got rid of 84 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 1: masks on planes? Because they know if people cast off 85 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 1: all of the vestiges of fauciism, then it can actually 86 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: disappear forever. And there are a lot of people that 87 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: want there to be a new health security state. Were 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: you more optimistic though, seeing on the ground in Alabama? 89 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: What read state people? Because it here's what I've been 90 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: seeing off fall. I go around to a different college 91 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: town every weekend, and we were in Tusco, Loose, Alabama 92 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: this weekend, and by the way, we met a ton 93 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: of listeners. It was fantastic, took a lot of pictures. 94 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: Great to hear so many of you coming up, and 95 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: we'll get Buck's review of his first college football game. 96 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: But before we get to that, I have been arguing 97 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: that college football and NFL fans are leading us in 98 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: many ways to freedom because they're millions of them showing 99 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: up every weekend, sold out stadiums, tailgating, living the best 100 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: version of their life, and I can't imagine them giving 101 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 1: up the freedoms now that the stadiums are full again. 102 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: That's one reason I thought sports is such an important symbol. 103 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: Even if last night you were watching, like I'm sure 104 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: twenty five million some odd people end up watching twenty million, 105 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: whatever the number will be. Tom Brady on the road 106 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: against Bill Belichick in Foxborough. That's New England, that's Massachusetts. 107 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: That's in an area that has been one of the 108 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: strong posts of fauciism. Sold out. Not a mask in 109 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: the crowd that I saw, And I think that's an 110 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: important sign of normalcy. Are you more optimistic about people 111 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: being willing to fight back having been and seen what 112 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: you saw over the weekend. I gotta tell you, Clay, 113 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: I think it's My takeaway was I don't know how 114 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: the country goes along as it as it is right 115 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: now with people that view it so differently. I mean, 116 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: I don't have an optimism that New Yorkers and Californians 117 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,559 Speaker 1: and Massachusetts sins. I don't know, whatever they are, whatever 118 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: we say for that, Massa Jutians, I don't know. But 119 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: I don't have an optimism that they're going to change 120 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: their minds anytime soon at all. And I would also 121 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: say that I'm concerned. Remember the federal mandate. The Biden 122 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: administration hasn't backed off their vaccine mandate, their federal mandate yet. 123 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: And if anything, the experience of New York City is 124 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: they think that the get the shot or You're Fired 125 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: program was a smashing success. Ninety seven or ninety eight 126 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: percent of now teachers in New York City, I think 127 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: the latest numbers about ninety seven percent got the shot. 128 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: There was a worge of thousands, and the people need 129 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: a paycheck, people need their jobs, so they figure, oh, okay, 130 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: that coercion worked in New York. I can assure you 131 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: based on the numbers going into the winter, there'll be 132 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: other places that will say it's time for more coercive mandates, 133 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: and the federal government is going to be the one 134 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: pushing it. So even places like Alabama, remember you get 135 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: on a plane. So yes, on the one hand, there's 136 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: this optimism of one hundred thousand people living life, enjoying themselves, 137 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: being out. But it is an outdoor stadium too, right, 138 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: So this is I mean, there were outdoor concerts in Chicago, right, 139 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: but those are okay according to Fauci, because that's Chicago. 140 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: By the way, has shut up about college football in 141 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, I haven't heard him say anything in 142 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: a while about that, and of course the met Galla right. 143 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: I mean, there are certain things that the Libs are 144 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: fine with that are big gatherings where no one's wearing masks. 145 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of hypocrisy around it. But I 146 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: feel the country actually coming more apart because you get 147 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: into an uber you are supposed even in Alabama, you're 148 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: supposed to where the drivers are all masked up, all 149 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: the personnel working at our at our hotel, we're masked 150 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: up the whole time. Clay. I mean, so, yes, it's better, 151 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: but don't you feel like it should be a lot better. 152 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean, if someone gets on a plane in Birmingham, 153 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: goes anywhere in the country, they're going to sit there 154 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: and be lectured by flight attendants who with Stazi like 155 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: zeal enforced the mask up between bites mandate. That's just 156 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: it's it's intellectually offensive. I mean, it's offensive on many levels, 157 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: but they really say mask up between bites and they'll 158 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: tell you, they'll say, excuse me, sir, you're not actively drinking, 159 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: pull your mask up, as if that does anything. It 160 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: is a form of madness, and I think the only 161 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: way the madness is going to be truly apparent is 162 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: I really do think we're going to be looking back 163 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: in twenty or thirty years and a lot of people's 164 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: and kids are going to be saying, didn't you realize 165 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: that it was stupid that you could walk through an 166 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: airport and you had to wear a mask? But everybody 167 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: who was eating and drinking at a restaurant like literally 168 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: that you could reach out and touch as you're walking 169 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: through the terminal didn't have their masks on, and you 170 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: guys thought that you were making a difference. I think 171 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of that in the years ahead. 172 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: But I do think the best way to win is 173 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: to live your life normally. And I think that every 174 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: single week there's more people who are saying, Okay, I'm 175 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: gonna live my life normally. Yeah. I think you have 176 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: to embrace freedom and pushback where you can, but know 177 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: that there are some places where you really can't. You 178 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: know you can. You can be the one person on 179 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: a two hundred person flight that says, or you know, 180 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: one hundred fifty person flight that says, I'm not going 181 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: to wear a mask. They're going to kick you off, 182 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: and you rescue you and ban you from the airline. 183 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm not advocating that, because everybody's got to be able 184 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: to work. And again, I think the fact that the 185 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: media is blindly covering the idea that mandates work. Yeah, 186 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: most people have to have a job. And if most 187 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: people are given a choice between you have to do 188 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: X or you're gonna lose your job, most people pick 189 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: X because they have mortgages, because they have kids in school, 190 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: because they have obligations as adults. I respect the fact 191 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: that some of you are willing to say no, I'm 192 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: not going to bend down to this authoritarianism. I'll find 193 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: a new job, I'll go somewhere else. And that's where 194 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: I think buck the great sorting that is going on 195 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: is not getting enough attention to the larger picture here. 196 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: What's COVID has done is make the red redder and 197 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: the blue bluer. Yep, because people who had been on 198 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 1: the border of whether or not they were going to 199 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: stay in a blue state in particular, have fled to 200 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: red states. And so the number of toss up states 201 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: in our electoral college. I think it's going to continue 202 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: to diminish, like I think Florida if you have a 203 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: good Republican candidate, even more in the Republican bank. Same 204 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: thing for Texas, same thing for states like Tennessee. I 205 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: think Georgia likely has added some voters too, and all 206 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: of that is going to create more division and dissension 207 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,599 Speaker 1: in the years ahead, no matter what the topic is. 208 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: COVID or no surprise, the illegal immigrants are generally going 209 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: into other places along the border right away, but also 210 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: blue states. I mean, the biggest concentration of illegal immigrants 211 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: as a state is California. The biggest concentration of illegal 212 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: immigrants in any city is New York City, which I 213 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: think people often forget. So that's another demographic reality that 214 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: is playing out before. As I just want to say, Clay, 215 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: we used to talk about China's and by used to, 216 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean the last few years China's social credit system 217 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: as some horrifying dystopia that you know, how could anyone 218 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: live with this and deal with this? And now you 219 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: have the Democrat Party in America effectively saying, yeah, we're 220 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: gonna need QR codes pretty soon here to make sure 221 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: you get your six month booster for the virus that's 222 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: ninety nine point seven percent, you know, survivable for everybody 223 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: who gets it who's under the age of seventy. Yeah, 224 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: that's where we are, all of a sudden. It's a 225 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: pretty remarkable circumstance. That's how quickly we've gone from well, 226 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: China's tyrannical too, Let's get some of that Chinese tyranny 227 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: over here. And people are begging for more authoritarianism. That's 228 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: the crazy thing. By the way, Ali who was there, 229 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: said when she landed in Alabama, she took her mask 230 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: off like a college senior, tossing the graduation cap, which 231 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: is which is pretty fantastic. There's a time in your 232 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: life when you switch gears from playing the stock market 233 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: or buying real estate, and instead you focus on safer 234 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: investments to protect what you've earned and saved. 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That's eight 260 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: hundred two a two two eight two on the lines 261 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: and one area where I'm sure we could have a 262 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: lot of folks wayh in is how crime is going 263 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: in their cities in this year. And there was a 264 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: crime that got a lot of attention over the weekend. 265 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: A man splashed paint on a George Floyd statue in 266 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: Union Square. Now, I think, let me just say, I'm 267 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: opposed to vandalism and destroying private or public public sector 268 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: of property. I'm opposed to that. I don't agree with this. 269 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting though, that if you want 270 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: to pull down a statue that the left doesn't like, 271 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: it's a heroic act of hashtag resistance for those vandals. 272 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: But if somebody throws some silver paint on a George 273 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: Floyd statue, which I think it's fair to ask, why 274 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: are we making statues of George Floyd in this country 275 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: and actually around the world by the way, They're George 276 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: Floyd murals and memorials all over the world, which is remarkable. 277 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: Why exactly are we doing that? But some paint was 278 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: splashed on it. Now we're being told the NYPD as 279 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: mobilizing against us as a hate crime. What happened as 280 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: a result of the George Floyd killing in Minneapolis there 281 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: was the BLM movement once again, And what did the 282 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: BLM movement do Will Clay. Today, we have yet another 283 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: example of what reimagining slash defunding police results. In Austin, Texas, 284 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: it's a really great fun town has had its highest 285 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: ever homicide rate already sixty homicides already this year in 286 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: the city of Austin. And that's the highest it's been 287 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: since I'm sorry, since nineteen eighty four. Oh no, the 288 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: highest ever that in nineteen eighty four, it was fifty nine. 289 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: And in response to all this, police have said they 290 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: are going to stop responding to certain kinds of calls. 291 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: There are police reforms under way that say that you here, 292 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: we go, you should not call police, You should call 293 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: the like the equivalent of local services, and we call 294 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: three one one in New York. I don't know what 295 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: it is elsewhere for all kinds of things that involve crime. 296 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: Unless there's an imminent threat to life or property or 297 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: the suspects are still in your sights, no more calling 298 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: the cops. After you come home you find there was 299 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: a burglar, call three one one local services. The fact 300 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: that five thousand, roughly additional people died in twenty twenty 301 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: as a result of the murder rate skyrocketing mostly young people. 302 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: The fact that that hasn't been a bigger topic of 303 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: conversation in the wake of the defund the Police movement 304 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: and of the failure to back the blue in any way, 305 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: and that cities like Austin which decided to dial back 306 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: their dollars that they were spending on police and have 307 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: led to a lot of different people deciding to leave 308 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: the force. The fact this hasn't been one of the 309 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: biggest stories in American politics and American news is a 310 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: sign of how much in the bed the mainstream media 311 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: is with these derange, the left wing lunatics who argued 312 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: in favor of defund the police, which buck Look, there 313 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: are a lot of different perspectives people can argue in 314 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: favor of and against, But defund the police, I believe, 315 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: is the dumbest political argument of the twenty first century, 316 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: and maybe the dumbest argument that most of us have 317 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: ever seen in our lives. 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We roll through the 346 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: Monday edition of the program. The story that I think 347 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: has the potential to be the biggest in the world 348 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: in a really negative way. And I don't know that 349 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: it's getting a lot of attention right now, Buck, but 350 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: over the past four days, a hundred and fifty different 351 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: Chinese aircraft have flown over Taiwan, including fifty six aircraft 352 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: on Monday, the largest incursion of Taiwanese airspace ever by China. 353 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of you out there may 354 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: not be paying a lot of attention or be aware 355 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: of what this situation could be. But I think, Buck, 356 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: this is a direct result of American and competence in 357 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: Afghanistan and a belief among foreign leaders that Joe Biden 358 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: is not a strong enough leader or in control enough 359 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: of his ment faculties to be able to handle a 360 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: massive confrontation that could occur if China decides to invade Taiwan. 361 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: And look China basically took over Hong Kong and nobody 362 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: did anything. The US is retrenching from the rest of 363 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: the world. We have as our policy in Taiwan strategic ambiguity, 364 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: which means we've never really said what we would do 365 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: if China tried to reclaim Taiwan as a part of 366 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: the larger Chinese government, which is what they've always argued, 367 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: that Taiwan is a part of China. Do you think Buck, 368 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden is up to this situation, this geopolitical 369 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: game of chess with Chairman z in China and how 370 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: far do these provocations go? Again, We've never seen this 371 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: happen before. Fifty six aircraft, the largest incursion of Taiwanese 372 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: airspace ever taking place right now by China on this 373 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: Monday Day. It's like they're testing us to see what 374 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: they can get away with. China doesn't care what the 375 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: pundits on CNN and MSNBC say about how brilliant Tony 376 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: Blinkin or the Biden national security team is. They know 377 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: what it was like for one thing under the eight 378 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: years of the Obama administration. And I do think it's 379 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: important to remind everybody that the Obama foreign policy was 380 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: one of essentially unmitigated disaster. It was the bowing and 381 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: apology tour to start off with all over the Muslim world, 382 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: in particular, right Obama showing up, We're so sorry America 383 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: has done all these bad things, didn't bias any goodwill, 384 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: didn't change the trajectory of things in a positive way. 385 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: And then you had the Syrian Civil War, a conflagration 386 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: that took over a half a million lives. You had 387 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: the debacle in Libya, most notably were best remembered by 388 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: what happened in Benghazi. You had the rise of ISIS 389 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: in Syria, and the Blitz Creek into a rock that really, 390 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: in many ways was a preview of what we were 391 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: going to see from the Taliban under the Biden administration. 392 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: And Clay China sees all this and says, look, the 393 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: Chinese economy is not doing well right now. There's a 394 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: lot of theories as to why. I remember, it's very 395 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: hard to accurately analyze the Chinese economy because they lie 396 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: about him. The central metrics for the Chinese economy are 397 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: constantly manipulated by the state authorities there. So you have 398 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people who will they'll even say their 399 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: GDP numbers are greatly inflated, and you know, there's a 400 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: lot of to call it funny accounting is probably far 401 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: too generous. But so the Chinese see and administration right now, 402 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: Biden administration that's embattled. They see that there's not any 403 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: real sense of American political unity at this point in time, 404 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: and so of course they're going to try to test 405 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: the waters a little bit. They're going to do things 406 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: to see how much can they get away with. And 407 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: you start to wonder what would the Bid administration response 408 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: be to a major Now, I mean, what do you 409 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: think would happen here if Taiwan actually got invaded? Will 410 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: you just allow it to happen? It's a fascinating question, 411 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: and it's one that I don't think there's an easy 412 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: answer to. We are bound by a treaty to defend Taiwan, 413 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: would we would we do it if push came to shove? 414 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: Depending World War three, depending on how it goes. Now, look, 415 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that this is I don't think this 416 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: is imminent. But there's another way that you can see 417 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: Chinese influence in Taiwan playing out. I mean, the Chinese 418 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: have run the playbook already in Hong Kong. And it's 419 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: somewhat similar to what Putin. The Russians do on their periphery, 420 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: which is they start to undermine the society from within 421 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: as well, and they're certainly trying to do that in Taiwan. 422 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: They have doing it in America too. That's right, they're 423 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: playing I'm play It's amazing to me how much I 424 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: talk to people, they still say, what do you think 425 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: about Russian influence operations in America? And I look at 426 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: them and I say, we have NBA players here who 427 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: never have to work a day in their lives again, 428 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: and if they don't want to, who are globally famous, 429 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: who bend the knee and beg forgiveness from China, from 430 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: Shijin peing the moment some of them, you know, one 431 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: of them says the wrong thing, and you're worried about 432 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: Russian influence operations in America because of the Facebook at 433 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: Bay or whatever in twenty sixteen, totally delusional. China is 434 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: a far more pernicious threat to undermining the US from 435 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: within and the Biden administration. I mean, if if you're 436 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: looking at this and you're an adversary to the United States, 437 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: and I do though I've talked to a lot of 438 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: veterans about this in recent weeks, where it's just they're 439 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: furious with the ineptitude of nomember. It's not just Biden, 440 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: it's the team around him. If the people around Joe 441 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: Biden were really squared away, we might feel a little 442 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: bit better about this. Right, he's still the commander in chief, 443 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: but clay Tony b Lincoln Chairman Millie Jensaki, I mean 444 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: that this is why they're sending the planes over Taiwan 445 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: right now. This is a direct, I think buck direct 446 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: result of our failure in Afghanistan because what the Democrats, Well, 447 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: they didn't send them, right, I mean, they didn't break 448 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: Taiwanese sovereign area like that that'd actually be an active war. 449 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: But they basically buzzed. They buzzed close by as a 450 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: little extended middle finger toward Taiwan. So this, I believe 451 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: is a director sucks because some people will say, well, 452 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: we needed to get out of Afghanistan. What does it matter. Yes, 453 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: it was a messy exit, but what's the long term 454 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: geopolitical significance. In the long run, We're not there, we 455 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: didn't belong there. And people will forget and it's not 456 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: going to be that big of a story. Well, the 457 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: impact geopolitically is, we are so weakened that I think China, 458 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: I guarantee you they're debating right now. Do you think 459 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, who just said it's time to end foreign wars, 460 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: would actually step up and defend Taiwan if we decided 461 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: we wanted to invade it, make Taiwan a part of 462 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: the mainland Chinese Empire. I think that the Biden administration 463 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: would call for some kind of a UN mandate protector 464 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: situation of stern certainly worded letter they would hold, They 465 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: would hold a lot of me Look, Taiwan would be 466 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: able to put up a little bit of at least 467 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of a fight in the short term. 468 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: And so it's not clear exactly what the Chinese war 469 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: plan would be and how they'd go about this, but 470 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: even just this, uh, there's a psychological warfare component of 471 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: this too. I mean, the people of Taiwan are sitting 472 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: there and they're asking the same question we are right now, 473 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: which is would America really and look, I think a 474 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: lot of Americans would ask this question, do we want 475 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: would we want to go to war over Taiwan. You 476 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: know you do you want to send your kids? Do 477 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: you want to go yourself? People asking that question, A 478 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: lot of people ask that question, and I think it's, 479 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: by the way, is a valid question to ask. It's 480 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: a valid question to ask. So the Biden illustration, I 481 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: don't think anybody knows exactly how they would respond in 482 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: that moment. But if we're just looking at pure ability, 483 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: the ineptitude of the withdrawal, it's not it's not just 484 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: the logistics part of it for everybody. It's the lack 485 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: of foresight, the abandoning of bogram, the clear inability to 486 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: have preparations in place. Because, as you say, Clay, it 487 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: is a great line from Mike Tyson. You know, no plan. 488 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: Everybody's got a plan, plan until they get punched in 489 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: the face. Yeah, there's also you know, no plan survives 490 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: first contact with the enemy. That's not no battle plan. 491 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: That's not Mike Tyson. But a similar idea and this 492 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: Biden administration, if you're looking at contingencies and on the 493 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: spot response for something that's of the kind of magnitude 494 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: of a real Chinese provocation against Taiwan, or even a 495 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: provocation in the South China Sea where they're building out 496 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: these air bases, and there there's all these areas of 497 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: continued animosity between the Chinese and a lot of other nations, 498 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: the Philippines, Korea, Japan, about who has control of these 499 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: territorial waters. I mean, the Biden administration feels like it's 500 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: asleep at the switch on everything. Why wouldn't they be 501 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: asleep at the wheel on this one too. I think 502 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: that's a fantastic question, and I think that's what the 503 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: Chinese are trying to exploit. In the meantime, I wish 504 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: there were more organizations like this doing good. Tunnel to 505 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: Towers committed to something special. This year. They've given two 506 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: hundred mortgage free homes to America's heroes and their families. 507 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: Think about that for a minute. Imagine a neighborhood of 508 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: two hundred homes. Sheer size of the footprint it would 509 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: take up. Now, these homes aren't all together in one place. 510 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: They're spread out across the country where the families of 511 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: our heroes are living close to family members that can 512 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: offer their support. Get the idea from that visual. Last month, 513 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: Tunnel to Towers led us all to never forget what 514 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: happened on nine to eleven and who was the most 515 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: affected by that tragedy. We never want to forget the 516 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: men and women who made the ultimate sacrifice and the 517 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: process of saving each other. 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Welcome back to 528 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. We're flying through here. 529 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: Come up an hour three shortly we'll talk about whether 530 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: Fauci is lying about wanting to consider at least having 531 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: you not spending Christmas with your relatives. He said it, 532 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: and now he says he didn't say it. Because he's Fauci. 533 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: He thinks he can get away with anything, and what 534 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: do we know. We're just a bunch of peasants who 535 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: were supposed to take all of his direction without questioning. Right, 536 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: that's what they think. Meanwhile, the CDC has said officially, 537 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: maybe you should consider having a virtual holiday celebration. You know, 538 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: see your family on the screen, be like, hey, mom 539 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: and dad. It's almost like you're here with me. I 540 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: can almost touch you, except it's glass. That's what they want. 541 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: Percentage of people are actually still this. This is the 542 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: thing that I really wonder about. What percentage of the 543 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: American public is going to restrict their Christmas or Thanksgiving 544 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,239 Speaker 1: or Halloween? Have you seen something parents are like, Oh, 545 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: I'm not letting my kids trick or tree? You not 546 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: letting your kids walk around out the I think it's 547 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: about twenty I think about twenty percent of the country. 548 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: I think the same twenty percent who thinks that climate 549 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: change is going to consume the world in flames unless 550 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: we put AOC in charge of the economy with the 551 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: Green New Deal. And for the kids of those twenty percent, 552 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: can you imagine the hell that living in those houses 553 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: for those kids must have been over the last meeting months. 554 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: And that's it's crazy, but there are people that still 555 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: want they're masking up their kids, they want to get 556 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: them the shot. They want to do all these things. 557 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 1: And then also, um, going into the holiday season, I 558 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: think you're going to see a much bigger for booster. 559 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: As they say right now, it's not mandatory to be 560 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: fully vaccinated. I'm telling you, I'm making a prediction they 561 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: will change that. And Fauci will say, Oh, it evolved, 562 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: That's what he always says. Everything evolves, right, he lies 563 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: to you. The incrementalism keeps going, and there's an evolution. 564 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: And if you're wondering to what extent are they willing 565 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: to shut down information still? And I know there's that 566 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: Facebook and Clay, if you want to get into that 567 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: next hour, there's a Facebook whistleblower. She's she's a liberal, folks, 568 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: let's not blowing the whistle on Facebook being unfair to conservatives. 569 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: But we'll talk about what's really going on there. Over 570 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: the weekend, Twitter got a lot of heat, rightly so, 571 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: because there was a woman it named Jessica Berg who 572 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: was quote an exceptionally healthy envirobrant thirty seven year old 573 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: young mother with no underlying health conditions who passed away 574 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: from This is from Oregon Live dot com, from a 575 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: real news site, passed away from COVID VAXX induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia. 576 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: She did not want to get vaccinated. Twitter Clay label 577 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: that a woman's obituary. We know there are side effects, 578 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: maybe they're incredibly rare. That doesn't mean they don't exist. 579 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: As misleading, it's now misleading for people to find out 580 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: if somebody got the shot. And I agree, it is 581 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: very rare to get the shot and die from what 582 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: we know so far, but it still has you can 583 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: still say it if it's true, right not according to Twitter, well, 584 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: it's not even that rare right now in England based 585 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: on the data that's coming out of England right something 586 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 1: around seventy percent of the people dying with COVID. No, no, no, 587 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: that's I mean dying from the shot, not dying yet. Yeah, 588 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: but I'm saying, but even for the vaccinated people to 589 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: be dying with COVID, And the problem is you aren't 590 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: allowed to share data points that contradict the narrative. But 591 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: in this scenario, I'm not surprised because it goes against 592 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: the prevailing narrative, so we don't know. Look, I mean, 593 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: it's rare for someone in their thirties to die period. 594 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: Having said that, every single day people in their thirties 595 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: die of a variety of different unexpected outcomes, and so 596 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: getting into why that is occurring is important, but also 597 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: understandable that it's an outlier. What happens here, Buck is 598 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: when outliers. Right, when a twenty four year old dies 599 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: with COVID, everybody shares it widely and it's one of 600 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: the most distributed stories on Twitter, even though that's an outlier. 601 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: There's almost no twenty four year olds who are going 602 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: to die with COVID. But when somebody has a vaccine reaction, 603 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: that also is an outlier, but that's not allowed to 604 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: be shared, right. So I think the problem we have 605 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: in American society in many ways is that we try 606 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: to treat outliers as if they are represented samples of 607 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: the larger data sets, when in reality, the reason they're 608 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,239 Speaker 1: newsworthy is because they're so rare, and so we end 609 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: up with this anecdote driven culture, and then you have 610 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: everybody trying to respond to the anecdote, like on the 611 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: Border Buck, which suddenly we aren't allowed to have horses 612 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: because somebody took a photo and they decided to try 613 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: to make it look like it was inappropriate behavior from 614 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: a border patrol official, even though it wasn't. Speaking of data, 615 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: this is out of Massachusetts because we've been mentioning on 616 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: the show today how the COVID cases have been surging 617 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: further north with if you believe or just know about 618 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: the seasonality of this virus in the past, this is 619 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: as predicted as expected. It's just a question of degree. 620 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: But you knew there would be more COVID going up north. 621 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: Florida looking better and better, Texas looking better and better. 622 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: The COVID wave has gone beyond those areas and now 623 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts they have six hundred and seventy five. This 624 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: was as over the weekend. Patients currently hospitalized with COVID 625 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy three in intensive of care. Two 626 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen patients of the six hundred and seventy 627 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: five patients in the hospital with COVID right now are 628 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: reportedly fully vaccinated. Yeah, now I need someone to start 629 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: to think about this one, folks, because they're gonna change 630 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: the numbers, they're gonna move the goalposts. Again, we have 631 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: been led to believe up to this point it is 632 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: incredibly rare for someone to be in the hospital who 633 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: is fully vaccinated, that you're good, you're protected. How is 634 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: it the case that almost a third during a surge, 635 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: no less, in Massachusetts, almost a third of people in 636 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: the hospital are fully vaccinated. If it's incredibly rare, a 637 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: third doesn't sound like incredibly rare. Now. I know that's 638 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: not a representative sample of everywhere and everything, but it's 639 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: early stage in what we're expecting to happen here. And 640 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: again I would go to England, where seventy percent of 641 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: people dying are fully vaccinated. How can Fouci not be 642 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: asked that question? By the way, Clay on TV, how 643 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: can no one ask? I think one If you watch 644 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: White House press briefings, I think we very often overrate 645 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: the average intelligence of White House press briefings journalists, most 646 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: journalists or b minus students from crappy second tier liberal 647 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: arts programs to I think that's a problem. And then 648 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: I also think there's so many people who are afraid 649 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: of being anti vaccine classified as that on Twitter, that 650 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: they won't even ask that kind of question. It's a 651 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: fantastic question should be the kind of question fout you 652 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: would get asked. That's why they won't let him come 653 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: on our Showbuck, because I think deep down they know 654 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: we're not going to try and lacerate him or just 655 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: call him names or anything like that. We would just 656 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: want him to have to answer intelligently to the best 657 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: of his ability, questions that require nuance, as opposed to basic, 658 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: screaming nonentity questions, which is what he usually gets all day.