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Speaker 1: will want to ask you this.

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Speaker 3: You think about this for a second.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, judging by what we saw Nick Sirianni deciding I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna punt the football with thirty seconds left, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go for it on fourth down. I'm gonna give

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Speaker 1: the Packers a chance to kick a field goal and

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Speaker 1: tie the game.

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Speaker 3: Does he need to be investigated?

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Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

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Speaker 3: I mean for having titanium.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because that's an expensive mettal where he's got

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Speaker 1: a wheelbarrow those things out there to just say I'm

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Speaker 1: going for the judglar. I don't know that that's titanu.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just stupid. I think it's just stupid.

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Speaker 1: Punt the football, punt the football win the game. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, sometimes people really love the temp fate

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Speaker 1: in their lives. I mean, is this a good idea?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm using famous Saturday at Live skit. I

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Speaker 1: am right, Hey, I'm gonna go do this Like nah,

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Speaker 1: you probably don't want to. I'm glad he made it

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Speaker 1: interesting for us because it was one of the worst

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Speaker 1: football games you'd ever want to see.

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Speaker 2: No, it was not good.

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Speaker 3: It was awful.

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Speaker 1: We've been in a run now of Thursday Night Broncos Raiders,

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Speaker 1: which was probably one of the five worst games of

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Speaker 1: the year when it's all said and done, Tonight, which

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Speaker 1: is probably one of the five worst games of the

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Speaker 1: year when it's all said and done, and now Thursday,

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Speaker 1: we're getting Jets Patriots, which I guarantee if you be

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Speaker 1: one of the worst games of the year when it's

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Speaker 1: all said and done, Oh, you gotta just sell the

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Speaker 1: hell out of Drake the greatest thing ever. Let's look

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Speaker 1: at the MVP candidacy of Drake manout on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: It's just not gonna be fun. Man, what's the end?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the nc double A or NBA slates under?

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Speaker 1: Let's talk some hockey, shall we?

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Speaker 3: Maybe this is where.

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Speaker 1: The NBA decides, Hey, we're going to uh uh a

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Speaker 1: flexible schedule some games. Hey we got Nix Pistons on Friday,

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Speaker 1: let's play that on Thursday. Hey we got probably his

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Speaker 1: Spurs again, Let's put that game on Thursday night. Friday,

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Speaker 1: move Lakers Thunders from Wednesday night to Thursday. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: I would do that in a second. You're gonna, I mean,

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Speaker 1: more people would watch that. I'm sure Thursday we only

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Speaker 1: have three matchups. You got Toronto, Cleveland, Indiana, Phoenix, Jalen

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Speaker 1: none of no Trey Young, none of those games are

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Speaker 1: good for anybody. Wow, that's awful. What do we got

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Speaker 1: on what can we push up from Friday?

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Speaker 3: Ticket?

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Speaker 1: Wait, get this tickets for those three games. What do

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Speaker 1: you think the highest one is? Of those three games?

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Speaker 3: You can go to the Phoenix game for nine bucks. Wow.

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Speaker 3: I like that. How about that? Never thought you'd see it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, there's three game one of them's gotta be nope,

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Speaker 1: trash Thursday night. Go see any NBA game you want

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Speaker 1: Go see a game for today to Phoenix. We have Friday,

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Speaker 1: need we need all these games on Friday moved to Thursday,

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Speaker 3: Guess where that is?

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Speaker 1: Prime Lakers thunder.

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Speaker 3: Laying you know what?

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Speaker 1: That can and you can stream. Let's let's just well

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Speaker 3: Who's the guy live streaming this from his seat? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean really, we are in a net You know,

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Speaker 1: players can slump, coaches can slump. Networks are in a

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Speaker 3: This is a big slump.

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Speaker 1: I do appreciate the run though that the take I

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Speaker 1: is really starting to take off. Uh yeah, well we're

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Speaker 1: lamenting this. Meanwhile, buy this uh to stream everything you want? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's fun with all this. I just keep thinking of

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Speaker 1: that thing from The Simpsons when hey get the get

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Speaker 1: the crusty doll and you pull the string and says,

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Speaker 1: buy my cereal. Buy my Cereal. Buy my Cereal by

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Speaker 1: ESPN by YouTube Buy Espn, Buy my Cereal, Buy my Cereal. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is a tough week, man. You got to get

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Speaker 1: in there and really have to sell the hell out tough.

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Speaker 1: We here's some great Drake May highlights. Man, No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to look now and see if there's any

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Speaker 1: prop bets on fourth down deep pass by Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: a prop bet I could have had on that?

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Speaker 1: Bet I could have had on that. I'm sure we

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Speaker 1: there's my not the Major League Baseball today. Hello, this

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Speaker 1: and teams that have trouble moving the football, right, that's

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Speaker 1: we have trouble throwing the football. Eagles, Packers, Bills, all

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Speaker 1: these teams all had bad weeks this week.

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Speaker 3: We all think, you know, the.

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Speaker 1: Eagles won, We forget me the Eagles one. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they a team that can hold up during the playoffs

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Speaker 1: when having this kind of trouble scoring? The Packers obviously

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Speaker 1: been a bad time for a team that's supposedly this

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Speaker 1: talented offensively bad weeks, yeah, but by far and away,

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Speaker 1: Nobody had as bad a week as the Bills. I

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Speaker 1: I feel really good about the Rams.

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Speaker 3: Rams are taking off. We're the best team in the NFC.

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Speaker 3: They just need to bring back that Elton John version

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Speaker 1: The Bills and what happened to them against the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: whoe game of the week. That's the biggest whoa. What

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Speaker 1: the hell happened in this game? And why the Bills

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Speaker 1: McDermott on the clock where this season ends badly, And

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Speaker 1: those guys are getting fired because for Brandon Bean, it's

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Speaker 1: You brought it in next Jet. But the failure for

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Speaker 1: they couldn't throw the football. Dalt Kakid got hurt early

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Speaker 1: The Bills couldn't throw it, they couldn't run. The failure

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Speaker 1: and it's going to be is he the right guy

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Speaker 1: we've got him different mix it, wide receiver, different mcdown.

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Speaker 1: He's got a star running back, one of the best

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Speaker 1: gonna waste the back half of Josh Allen's prime with yeah,

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Speaker 1: we think this is gonna work. No, the wide receiver

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Speaker 1: not gonna waste the next three four five years of

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's career saying yeah it me Sean mcderbtt will

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Speaker 1: get it done. Like that's why this was such a

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Speaker 3: At lot. More football coming up in a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: But look the story today that really surprised all of us.

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Speaker 1: And there's evidence for Class A and FO tees that

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Speaker 1: This is a story that this is why I love baseball,

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Speaker 1: Impetus is the word I'm looking for, than to see

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Speaker 1: Class is right now chit ching orange jumpsuit in prison,

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Speaker 1: is your brain. This is your brain on drugs and

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Speaker 1: it's a Friday egg and all that. Any questions that

437
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Speaker 1: might have helped in some regards here when you have

438
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 1: big penalties, right, Ortiz appeared in federal court granted his

439
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Speaker 1: release here with the conditions, we can take your passport,

440
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Speaker 1: you're restricted to the Northeast, and you had to post

441
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Speaker 1: a five hundred thousand dollars bonds, so fifty thousand of

442
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Speaker 1: it secured. They agreed to a number of US sportsbook

443
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Speaker 1: they're going to establish a nationwide two hundred dollars betting

444
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Speaker 1: limit around prop bets right individual pitches, and some of

445
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Speaker 1: these bets won't be included in parlays and all of that,

446
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,239
Speaker 1: so those are still going to be parsed out. But

447
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 1: it's something we talked about with Todd Ferman, our Vegas insider,

448
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: used to work at Caesar's, you know, took us behind

449
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Speaker 1: the curtain, and it's something we've talked with him about

450
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: for years when he joins us, and it was, you know,

451
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: really deep diving stuff when you talk about the means

452
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Speaker 1: and the coordination and the passing on of information. Right

453
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: when they would see an irregularity, they would contact the conferences,

454
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Speaker 1: the schools, the teams, the leagues, whatever it was pro

455
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Speaker 1: or collegiate to say, hey, here's what we're seeing now.

456
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Speaker 1: It might not be anything, but enough to at least

457
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Speaker 1: be on the radar of, hey, you probably need to

458
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: talk to your athlete in question, and in this case

459
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Speaker 1: there was enough of it and through the use of video,

460
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: because all of this is out there now you can

461
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Speaker 1: piece it together and we certainly see it whenever there's

462
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: questionable decision making coaching wise, player wise, all all the

463
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Speaker 1: way through Dick Sirianni going for it on fourth down

464
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Speaker 1: when he should be punting the football. Is that potentially

465
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Speaker 1: illegal or is it just seas an idiot? It's not

466
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Speaker 1: against a lot of been my client's an idiot.

467
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it was a regular My client's an idiot.

468
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Speaker 1: It's not idiot, that's right, but it's it's that kind

469
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Speaker 1: of thing to where you go through and that information

470
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Speaker 1: is out there. And certainly sports books have always been

471
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Speaker 1: doing this to some some level, some degree, and certainly

472
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Speaker 1: I'm sure in these years there's a lot of handwringing.

473
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: Now it's like, oh, the betting's fruit. It's always been there.

474
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: Like what's happening here is good and everybody needs to

475
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Speaker 1: triple underscore that.

476
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Speaker 3: Stop the holier than now thing betting was gonna happen.

477
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Speaker 1: Now what may happen is this goes some of it

478
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Speaker 1: goes back underground. But guess what you'd rather deal with

479
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Speaker 1: the sports books saying hey, I'm charging an extra two

480
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Speaker 1: hundred bucks against your credit card, then Rocko showing up

481
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Speaker 1: to collect the bets, which is what the old world was.

482
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Speaker 3: And maybe that's where some of this goes back.

483
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Speaker 1: But you've got to be adults about it, like people

484
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Speaker 1: are gonna bet, and here's the checks and balances are

485
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Speaker 1: showing that it's working. Does it mean that it's the

486
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Speaker 1: end of this No. To your point, you're talking about

487
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: giant impediments and giant consequences. Here's the jumpsuit, here's he

488
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Speaker 1: gets his yard hour in the yard whatever, those things

489
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: that get parsed out, you know, in terms of the

490
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Speaker 1: information and how you want to put that out there.

491
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Speaker 1: But recognizing there is an issue and putting these guys

492
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Speaker 1: and holding them to these statutes right when you're talking

493
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Speaker 1: about state to state and interstate commerce and all of

494
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Speaker 1: these things, Yeah, that's what you do. Federal and state

495
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Speaker 1: charges come through, and yes, you're gonna have a lot

496
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Speaker 1: of guys going, I'm not risking my future. Hey, mose

497
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Speaker 1: Roco helped the judge finance checkbook. Well, yet, look it's

498
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Speaker 1: it would be worse, and think about it, it would

499
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Speaker 1: be worse if we didn't hear anything on it, right,

500
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Speaker 1: Like we had to Ferman on Vegas Insider when the

501
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Speaker 1: first NBA aspect of this drop, right, the Chauncey billups

502
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Speaker 1: aspect and and he said, listen, this is the way

503
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Speaker 1: it's supposed to work.

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Speaker 3: Right.

505
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Speaker 1: We've been in Vegas a long time, Insider, Odds maker,

506
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Speaker 1: when this hat, look at look at how it's working.

507
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: They found this. It was a sting operation for a

508
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Speaker 1: better part of a year, and look what they found.

509
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Speaker 1: Are there other guys doing it? Okay, now they're on

510
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Speaker 1: it right, But this is how it's supposed to work.

511
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: It would be worse if you just didn't hear anything.

512
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's nice to walk around and go yeah,

513
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Speaker 1: I can whistle through a graveyard and go yeah, everything's fine. Look,

514
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Speaker 1: no one's coming up, and I thin meanwhile, all this

515
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Speaker 1: kind of illegal stuff is happening, or the tentacles of

516
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: it are starting to feel its way out there that

517
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Speaker 1: there's some tests. Well we can do this. Now, let's

518
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Speaker 1: try to do this. Oh, we can do this. Let's

519
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Speaker 1: try to do this right. I'm gonna leave this game

520
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Speaker 1: with an injury. I'm gonna throw the first pitch in

521
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Speaker 1: the dirt, right, let's try.

522
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Speaker 3: To do that.

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Speaker 1: The fact that this stuff is getting caught is good, right,

524
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Speaker 1: It's acceptable for the leagues that know they know there's

525
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Speaker 1: going to be some sort of collateral damage, but so

526
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Speaker 1: far what's happened, this has all been acceptable for them

527
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Speaker 1: because this is showing what we're doing is working. And honestly,

528
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Speaker 1: the worst thing is if we didn't hear anything, then

529
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Speaker 1: you know, none of us are doing our jobs right,

530
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Speaker 1: because there's always going to be the bits of information

531
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Speaker 1: that are transmitted casually and without the assumption that it's

532
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Speaker 1: being used for ill conceits right that you know we're

533
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Speaker 1: just talking about basketball. I'm a basketball player, but you

534
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: might be grabbing some information because we're just having a conversation.

535
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: I know you tangentially through a buddy whatever. I don't

536
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Speaker 1: know that you're immediately going to a sports book. And

537
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that all players are naive that that

538
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Speaker 1: might not happen, right, I mean that that might be

539
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 1: part of what these conversations are. And that goes back

540
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Speaker 1: to the poker games and the people that are seated there.

541
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Speaker 1: There's a lot more to it, Like we're not all

542
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Speaker 1: cut the babe in the woods routine kind of thing air.

543
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Speaker 1: But the reality is that the checks and balances are

544
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Speaker 1: there too for that flow of information, and the sportsbooks

545
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Speaker 1: take this very seriously. We're talking about gaming licenses. We're

546
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Speaker 1: talking about millions upon millions of dollars of potential fraud.

547
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: We talked about the the largess the billions of dollars

548
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Speaker 1: being bet legally. Again, there's a lot of shadow money

549
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: and maybe it forces some of it underground, and that's fine,

550
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: and that's fine because that was always going to be

551
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: there regardless. Now it's just the flow of information and

552
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: the potential of huge penalties. Players and coaches will think twice, yeah,

553
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's sometimes you just have to show a deterrent.

554
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Speaker 1: That's it, right, And that's what One of my favorite

555
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Speaker 1: episodes of the West Wing was when Bartlet and Leo,

556
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Speaker 1: President and chief of staff, they wanted the president to

557
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Speaker 1: be able to do something and they were worried that

558
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Speaker 1: if you say this, you're going to have to continue

559
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Speaker 1: to hammer this point haul if you want.

560
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 3: To get this law passed. I forget what it was.

561
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Speaker 1: And the chief of staff tells, press just got to

562
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: do something bold once, and he says, what do you mean.

563
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: He says there was a game early on in Bill

564
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Speaker 1: Russell's career where there were some whispers that Bill Russell

565
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,239
Speaker 1: was a little soft and you could really dominate him

566
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Speaker 1: in the low post, and you could be able to

567
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Speaker 1: have your way with him. Even though we so talented,

568
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: you can still get you. You could still have your

569
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Speaker 1: way with him. And he decided that all I gotta

570
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Speaker 1: do one time on national television is throw an elbow,

571
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Speaker 1: and I'll never have to do it again. And throw

572
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Speaker 1: an elbow on national television and never had to do

573
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Speaker 1: it again because everybody saw it and said, WHOA yet

574
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: to know what you're telling me about Bill Russell. But

575
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,239
Speaker 1: he threw a huge elbow and clocked that guy. I

576
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: can't do that. You put out here, here's a manual

577
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: claus a who is going to lose his career and

578
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: go to prison. You can take care of the rest

579
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Speaker 1: of it. Sportsbooks can work a little bit with leagues

580
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: that go, okay, we don't need to be putting out

581
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Speaker 1: these prop bets on some of these things.

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Speaker 3: We can save.

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Speaker 1: We talked about that, right, yeah, right, the secondary you

584
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Speaker 1: can say prop bets for the star players, like you know, hey,

585
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: Jalen hurts passing yards or Saquon Barkley rushing yards like

586
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: okay that but like for one guy where hey, one

587
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: or two plays is gonna flip it one way or

588
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Speaker 1: the other.

589
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: You don't need that.

590
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: So there's some stuff like that can happen. But all

591
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: you need is this and continue to keep this story

592
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: front and center. And here's here's what's going on with

593
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: Class A. And he's he's the the poster poster child

594
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Speaker 1: for all of this. Yeah, you get banned from the

595
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: from Major League Baseball and you go to prison. You guess, okay, hey, sorry, guys,

596
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: can't do it. You saw what just happened. Man not

597
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: doing it. But the other thing is by putting in

598
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: these low limits, if you got someone that's suddenly fishing

599
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Speaker 1: for two hundred dollars here two hundred dollars and they

600
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: know something's up right, it's gonna get flagged that because

601
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Speaker 1: that it seems like an innocuous number. But that's why

602
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: it's like, you you limit your losses. But if someone's

603
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: going and fishing for a line on a first ball, uh,

604
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: you know that some chicanery is afoot. Exit up out

605
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Speaker 1: of Frasca, exit swalling down the Jason Smith show with

606
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 1: my best friend Mike harmon Time how to find out

607
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: what's trying to in the wide world of sports. But

608
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Speaker 1: guy has been called the Bill Russell of Fox Sports

609
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Speaker 1: Radio because I said it aren't you Bill Russell and

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Speaker 1: he says no, and he goes, I mean the infielder.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's me. It's Steve Desager.

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Speaker 6: There we go, Philadelphia Monday Night football winner at green

613
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Speaker 6: Bay ten to seven. Jalen Hurts one TD pass, one fumble,

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Speaker 6: Saquon Barkley twenty two carries sixty yards plus he had

615
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Speaker 6: three catches for forty one yards. Eagles led three to

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Speaker 6: nothing early fourth quarter, temperature about thirty degrees in Green

617
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Speaker 6: Bay and the first half seven punts total and seven penalties.

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Speaker 6: Packers punted on the first four drives and fumbled late

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Speaker 6: first half from quarterback Jordan Love. The Giants fired coach

620
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Speaker 6: Brian Dable, but general manager Joe Shane stays. Giants this

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Speaker 6: year have held double digit leads in four road games

622
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Speaker 6: that ended in losses. Tablele as a former Bills offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 6: Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow hopes to return on Thanksgiving for

624
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 6: a game at Baltimore he's on ir with a toe injury.

625
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 6: He returned to limited practice today. Washington head coach Dan

626
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Speaker 6: Quinn is taking over defensive coordinator duties. Also, Washington's lost

627
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Speaker 6: five straight. They'll play in Madrid this Sunday against the Dolphins.

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Speaker 6: In the NBA late game six minutes to go, Atlanta

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Speaker 6: leads the Clippers in LA ninety two to eighty six.

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Speaker 6: A lot of excitement in the Association. Tonight, Detroit in

631
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Speaker 6: overtime beat Washington one thirty seven, one thirty five. Wizards

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Speaker 6: now one and ten despite forty two points from c

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Speaker 6: J McCollum. The Pistons tied it at the end of

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Speaker 6: regulation on a three pointer. Won at by two ot

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Speaker 6: Cad Cunningham forty six points, twelve rebounds, eleven assists. Cunningham

636
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Speaker 6: was fourteen of forty five shooting from the floor. Orlando

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Speaker 6: at home beat Portland on a three pointer at the

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Speaker 6: buzzer one fifteen, one twelve over Desmond. Baying the hero.

639
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Speaker 6: Beating Portland, he had been oh five from three point range.

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Speaker 6: Miami at home an overtime winner against Cleveland won forty

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Speaker 6: to one thirty eight, winning on an alley oop. Duncan

642
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 6: the buzzer. Lakers now eight and three after winning at

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Speaker 6: Charlotte won twenty one to one eleven thirty eight points

644
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Speaker 6: for Luca Donzig, thirty eight for Victor wimban Yama, and

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Speaker 6: the Spurs win at Chicago won twenty one one seventeen.

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Speaker 6: Spurs record eight and two. Milwaukee won at Dallas one

647
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Speaker 6: sixteen one fourteen as the MAVs, now three and eight,

648
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 6: missed a couple of late free throws. Giannis Antenacumpo thirty

649
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Speaker 6: points in victory. Minnesota got thirty five from Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 6: in a win at Utah. Phoenix got forty two points

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Speaker 6: from Grayson Allen an easy win over New Orleans, which

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Speaker 6: is two and eight. The new number one team and

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Speaker 6: men's college basketball is Houston. Purdue dropped to number two

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Speaker 6: despite having more first place votes the rest of the

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Speaker 6: top five, Connecticut, Duke and Arizona, which beat defending champion

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Speaker 6: Florida last week. In men's college hoops, Tonight, Northwestern three

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Speaker 6: and oh after ripping Cleveland State FS one had Santa

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Speaker 6: Clair's easy win at Xavier. Fifteenth rank UCLA was only

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Speaker 6: up by five at the half against West Georgia, but

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Speaker 6: the Bruins beat him eighty three sixty two.

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Speaker 2: Season that where.

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Speaker 1: What's his name was playing in Chad Powers, West Georgia.

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Speaker 4: I think that's raised the quarterback any directional school, that's

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Speaker 4: always that sign. In college basketball just ended on FS one,

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Speaker 4: a top ten women's matchup in Sacramento went to UCLA

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Speaker 4: over Oklahoma seventy three to fifty nine. In the NHL's

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Speaker 4: late game, Florida winner at Vegas three to two Edmonton

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Speaker 4: and overtime beat Columbus Islanders in overtime one at New Jersey,

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Speaker 4: which was eleven and four. This year, Rangers a six

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Speaker 4: to three winner against Nashville and the Big MLB Award

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Speaker 4: results continue this week. Managers of the Year tomorrow. Today

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Speaker 4: it was Rookies of the Year and the American League

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Speaker 4: Rookie of the Year from the a's Nick Kurtz, a

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Speaker 4: guy who batted two ninety with thirty six homers. He

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Speaker 4: was drafted fourth overall from wake Forest just a year

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Speaker 4: and a half ago, and he gets all thirty first

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Speaker 4: place votes. Today, a shortstop Jacob Wilson finished second. The

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Speaker 4: National League Rookie of the Year is Braves catcher Drake Baldwin.

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Speaker 4: He won a twenty one votes to nine. Finishing second

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Speaker 4: was Cubs pitcher Kate Horton, who went eleven and four

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Speaker 4: this season. Baldwin had nineteen homers eighty RBIs Bett at

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Speaker 4: two seventy four. He was a third round draft choice

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Speaker 4: from Missouri State in twenty twenty two, and the Giants

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Speaker 4: have hired former manager Bruce Bochie as a special advisor.

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Speaker 4: His former catcher there Buster Posey is San Francisco's team president.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, Thank you, Steve ol Coming up next

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Speaker 1: to Got More Football on the Way, We break down

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Speaker 1: the biggest story of the day and tell you why

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Speaker 1: one NFL head coach doesn't have a job anymore. That's next,

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Speaker 1: Jason to Mike Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 3: You know, all day.

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Speaker 1: Peoplemen offering up reasons why was Brian Dable fired as

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Speaker 1: Giants head coach?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: And I get it, Well, there's one reason was it

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Speaker 1: for this one row? Well, it really always just comes

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Speaker 1: down to one reason.

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Speaker 2: They stink.

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Speaker 3: But you know listening.

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Speaker 1: You know this ran a promo a couple of months

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Speaker 1: ago with Colin Coward playing a Tim Hasselbeck comment about

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Speaker 1: all the you know, hey, Matt Hasselbeck, Sorry, Matt Hasselbeck saying, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones success played into it. Uh, you know the

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Speaker 1: the loss to the Broncos played into it. Jason lock

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Speaker 1: and Ford told us that earlier tonight, and really, I

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Speaker 1: can make it simple and this is what cuts through

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Speaker 1: and take this for tomorrow, because I'm sure people will

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Speaker 1: take this for tomorrow. Why did Brian Dable get fired? Yes,

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Speaker 1: not going for it on fourth and goal when they

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Speaker 1: could have gone up two touchdowns in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: was the final straw that broke the camel's back, right.

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Speaker 1: That was the last of the embarrassing losses. Things that

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Speaker 1: happened where the Giant said, you know what, we got

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Speaker 1: to move on, right, Why are you not going for

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Speaker 1: it on fourth and goal from the half yard line

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Speaker 1: when you're.

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Speaker 3: Two and seven?

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Speaker 1: If if you're seven and two and you're six and four,

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Speaker 1: guess what everybody's gonna say. I trust the head coach's decision.

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Speaker 1: He trust the defense to go out and win that game.

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Speaker 1: When you're two and seven.

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Speaker 2: Why the hell not? Why the hell not?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: So that was the final straw that got Brian Dable fired. Now,

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Speaker 1: why it's the middle of the season. Giants aren't going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart has proven to be really good. Brian Dabele's

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Speaker 1: your head coach, right, and Jackson Dart's proven to be

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Speaker 1: really good under Brian Dable. He's thinking, I'm saving my

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Speaker 1: job right now. Joe Shane the GM has still saved

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Speaker 1: his job. I'm feeling pretty good. But Dable gets fired.

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Speaker 1: Why the Giants the Steelers, for the most part, are

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Speaker 1: the two most heritage teams in the NFL that have

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Speaker 1: the reputation of we always do things right. We are

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Speaker 1: upper crust, we are elite, we are one hundred years

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Speaker 1: of history and heritage.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are a clown show with Jerry Jones. They were

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Speaker 1: at America's team for a while, but it's a clown show.

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Speaker 1: But the Steelers and the Giants look the families being

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Speaker 1: close to each other. They enjoy that reputation. Hey, we

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Speaker 1: are the Steelers, we are the Giants. We do it

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Speaker 1: better than everybody else. You don't always win, but we

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Speaker 1: do things the right way. The Giants don't like to

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Speaker 1: be embarrassed, and for Brian Dabele, this was you've embarrassed

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Speaker 1: us one too many times. You want to go back.

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Speaker 1: We had Daniel Jones. Things were pretty good, but it

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Speaker 1: didn't turn out well. We moved on from Daniel Jones. Well,

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Speaker 1: now guess what that embarrasses us because he's gone to

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis to become an MVP candidate. And the Colts have

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Speaker 1: the best record in the AFC. So that's embarrassing. Losing

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Speaker 1: coming back this season or we're going into last season.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna move on from Saquon Barkley. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about that. Well, we're moving on from Saquon Barkley. Well,

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Speaker 1: and what do you hear from the owner? I don't

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Speaker 1: want him to come back and in our division and

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Speaker 1: bite us in the s that'd be awful. What happens

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley goes to the Eagles in the division, they

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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. Embarrasses the Giants. Now this season starts, okay,

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dark comes in great, he's pretty good, but you've

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Speaker 1: blown four fourth quarter leads. The Bronco lead embarrassing as hell,

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Speaker 1: because no one blows leads like that in the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter where the Broncos scored seventy five points in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter to win that game. Really embarrassing, worst blown

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Speaker 1: lead of the year. Embarrassing for the Giants yesterday against

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Speaker 1: the Bears. We had the game, we blow it. We

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Speaker 1: blow it against the Bears, another big heritage team in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. That Hey, we like to think to do

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Speaker 1: things right front of yours. They don't, but we like

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Speaker 1: to think we're that way. And all the attention on

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Speaker 1: the Giants blowing another game, the Giants simply got tired

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Speaker 1: of you're not gonna embarrass us anymore. We don't like

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Speaker 1: to be embarrassed from the owner all the way down.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna be haha. Look at the Giants and

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Speaker 1: Brian Dable embarrassed them one too many times. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: he gets fired.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: He could have stayed on until the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: But the Giants are saying, we guys still got half

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Speaker 1: the season left. We don't want there to be two

784
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Speaker 1: or three more times where you're laughing at the Giants

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Speaker 1: the rest of the way. We know we're not going

786
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Speaker 1: to the playoffs. We've already seen three times been laughing

787
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Speaker 1: at US this year. The medical tent thing was so

788
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Speaker 1: embarrassing for Brian Dable. Really it should have been a blit,

789
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Speaker 1: but it was embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: You can't be in the medical tent. That was embarrassing

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Speaker 1: on national TV. The Giants were embarrassed. They don't like

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Speaker 1: being embarrassed. It was one too many times they said,

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Speaker 1: before this happens again, we're getting.

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Speaker 3: Rid of you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they've done plenty of that to embarrass themselves,

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Speaker 1: but it's by their own choice. The fact that you

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Speaker 1: know how many coaches are we at since Tom Goughlin

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Speaker 1: walked away, mcindo, Spagnola, Schumer, judge, Dable and now Mike

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Speaker 1: gaff judge more people would give him, give more benefit

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Speaker 1: of the doubt.

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Speaker 3: Well, even if he dropped the ball and he's got

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Speaker 3: a chance to.

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Speaker 1: Oh, very deebed and confused. But at twenty and forty

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Speaker 1: record to your point about the field goal, they could

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Speaker 1: have taken it off the board because they would have

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Speaker 1: had the too many men on the field penalty that

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Speaker 1: would have moved at half the distance. You know, I

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Speaker 1: gotta trust Russell Wilson to navigate it. But you've made

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Speaker 1: that decision by Putt Russell Wilson. Again, you're two and seven,

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Speaker 1: what you go for it?

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Speaker 2: But that's the point. But that's just it.

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Speaker 1: You got a chance to kill one of the field

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Speaker 1: good stories of the year.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Remember even in that Denver game, they scored thirteen points

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Speaker 3: in that quarter.

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Speaker 1: That's how miserable that quarter was. It's not like they

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Speaker 1: got shut out and run over. No, no, no, they still

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Speaker 1: scored twice. Yeah, and still I had that absolute failure

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Speaker 1: of collapse. The the math as some folks have done,

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Speaker 1: it was these fourth quarter collapses would equal up to

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Speaker 1: a one in sixty thousand or sixty thousand to one.

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Speaker 3: I should say, Oh, I love it. We all of

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Speaker 3: these things.

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Speaker 1: Now, when collapses happened, there was a there was a

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Speaker 1: less than point six percent chance up really, so there's

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Speaker 1: point less than six percent chance.

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Speaker 2: Of all these things that it all happen.

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Speaker 3: But I like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, math as you go do it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know all these conversion of circumstances. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about that math. I think that math as you like

834
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Speaker 1: to say, fuzzy math. It could be fuzzy math. Either way.

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Speaker 1: It's a terrible convergence of circumstance, and when you add

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Speaker 1: it all up, the blue Tent, the number of times

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart has found himself inside said blue tent, and

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Speaker 1: all of these other fails.

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Speaker 3: You're twenty and forty. You're done.

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Speaker 1: Now here's Kafka with an opportunity to try to run

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Speaker 1: with it. It's pretty easy. It's pretty easy. Some some

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Speaker 1: organizations aren't going to suffer that. The Jets suffer that

843
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Speaker 1: every week. It doesn't matter where the Jets, Giants don't

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 5: That.

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Speaker 1: He hates to see George McCaskey celebrating stuff too, So

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Speaker 1: you know, coming up next we get back into the

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Speaker 1: biggest story coming off on Monday Night Football Fox,