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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast, presented by by Star Credit

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Speaker 1: with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. All Right, welcome into

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Speaker 1: this week's Ozone podcast. And I tell a story first, Um,

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Speaker 1: the first time two or three years ago when I

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Speaker 1: had this guest PR David Wolf came to me and said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get you this guy. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: all right, I don't know him that well, but we'll

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Speaker 1: see in three years. Since, I have to be honest,

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Speaker 1: he has turned into my favorite guest on the Ozone podcast.

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Speaker 1: I always look forward to talking to him. You want

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Speaker 1: some movie. I appreciate you joining us that I cannot

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Speaker 1: wait to talk to you today. Appreciate you room for

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Speaker 1: fining me on again. I mean, I've kind of stumbled up.

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Speaker 1: You don't favorite. You don't feel the same way, dude,

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Speaker 1: I'm not the favorite interview, right, Brian, somebody like that.

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Speaker 1: Every time we've come away here, we always have a

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Speaker 1: good time. Thank you during the first year, so I

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Speaker 1: thank we did during COVID the first year. So first

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Speaker 1: of all, family life everything good. Yeah, everything's great. I

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Speaker 1: mean family, I mean, that's that's the number one thing

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Speaker 1: in my life. It's it's great. Right now. Everything's going

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Speaker 1: really well. Family sizes for sure. And have you have

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Speaker 1: you been struck because there was obviously the huge news

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Speaker 1: when you played doctor with the delivery. Have you been

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Speaker 1: struck by how much people remember that story and reach

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Speaker 1: out and sort of feel like they know you all

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Speaker 1: bet sometimes when they talk to you. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I'm really shocked at me and they know my wife

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Speaker 1: when they know me, and they just know her as

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Speaker 1: like the hero woman that delivered the baby thirty minutes.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm just I'm still shocked. We just did

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Speaker 1: an update story a couple of weeks ago for like

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Speaker 1: the year anniversary from you know, my daughter should just

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Speaker 1: turned a year now walking around talking and stuff now,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that would be fantastic when she's older to

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Speaker 1: be able to share that story with her will be unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: One I can show her on multiple different channels her

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Speaker 1: work story. You were a celebrity, probably your celebrity dinner

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Speaker 1: A right, Um, tell me about this team. You've been

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Speaker 1: around as long as anybody except for Shatley and By

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Speaker 1: and By I guess a day or two. Cam Um,

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Speaker 1: give me your perspective on this team, on where it

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Speaker 1: is and sort of what your messages to him is

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Speaker 1: a vet right now, Um what you gotta stay together.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's been a whole bunch of ups

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Speaker 1: and downs this year, but the one thing that that's

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Speaker 1: been consistent is we've been in every single one of

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Speaker 1: these games. We'll be the loss by three points, are

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Speaker 1: less than a touchdown. I mean that that's different from

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Speaker 1: any other year. I mean usually whatever we're down, we

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Speaker 1: kind of get loved and we don't really know where're at.

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Speaker 1: But like we have, we have a lot to look

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Speaker 1: forward to. I mean, as long as we're able to

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Speaker 1: finish the games you know that that we're playing in

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Speaker 1: and actually win a couple more, you know, for like,

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Speaker 1: we'll be in a good place. That's a real thing.

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Speaker 1: And I mean we've talked about as so much in

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Speaker 1: and you say, hey, they've been close, they've had close games.

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Speaker 1: But as players, you guys can feel that that these

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Speaker 1: are all six games, all six losses, not just close scores.

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Speaker 1: But my guesses it feels to you guys after games

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Speaker 1: of and that was one that got away and it

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Speaker 1: hasn't been like that in the past. Yeah, it hasn't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's been a lot of it's been

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Speaker 1: been through three different coaching changes and all the different things,

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Speaker 1: all the turmoil. But this year, I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned it. Um. We talked a lot in

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Speaker 1: the offseason about the culture change around here, even with

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Speaker 1: I mean the culture changes has been since day one,

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Speaker 1: since since uh Duck came in. He really instilled that

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing that was that he kept saying,

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Speaker 1: been different from other coaches. For sure. Always said that

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Speaker 1: What does that mean, learn how to win? I would

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Speaker 1: Just the little things that we can you know, be

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Speaker 1: But you are would smooth two thousand seventeen. Believe the

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Speaker 1: stories you told them now, No, definitely, he smoothed it

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Speaker 1: on those lines as the VET, You've seen so many

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Speaker 1: before tough times for you in seventeen eighteen, even in

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Speaker 1: going into my third year it was a questionableut. I

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Speaker 1: On the bubble? You know, I don't really know what

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Speaker 1: how serious I took everything at that point, Um, completely

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Speaker 1: me I mean, I'm going for the tenure in Mark,

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