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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is the official hair of

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Speaker 1: Red Kids. Welcome back to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast, presented by Head and Shoulders with an

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Speaker 1: assist from Redkin. This is Dan Jnsas and I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by a room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler and

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling. What's up, boys, Hey Dan? Oh yeah, Championship

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Speaker 1: Sunday is here? And uh, two games, one excellent game

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Speaker 1: in the a f c um with a familiar ending,

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Speaker 1: and one surprise blowout in the late game. And it

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Speaker 1: made me. I was thinking, boys, uh, you want to

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Speaker 1: throw another Hey Dan in there? Hey Dan like it? Um?

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, that's the one thing, like nobody knows anything. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, you could study the tape all season. You

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Speaker 1: could look at trends in recent weeks leading up to games.

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Speaker 1: You could study what happened last Sunday leading into the

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Speaker 1: following Sunday. Really the only thing that you could really

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Speaker 1: bank out ultimately is the Patriots and everything else is

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Speaker 1: kind of uh, what do you call a toss up?

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Speaker 1: You know, because look what happened in the late game

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Speaker 1: today with the blowout, with the Eagles moving on, there's

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Speaker 1: no way to really predict this game, but the only

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Speaker 1: thing you do know is that Brady and Belichick are

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Speaker 1: the goats. I think there's a lot to be said

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Speaker 1: for as an analyst and what we do to look

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Speaker 1: back on a game even tonight as quickly as the

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Speaker 1: game ending thirty forty minutes ago and having thoughts, having takeaways.

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Speaker 1: But when you shift into the Wednesday midday, Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: Friday thing where we have to start telling everyone exactly

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Speaker 1: that's where we start to stumble because I don't know

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Speaker 1: if the game. I think the game is probably at

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Speaker 1: its peak in terms of unpredictability right now. And we

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Speaker 1: have a show called Pick Them where we're regularly, overly

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Speaker 1: confidently as a group will pick one team, we'll get

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Speaker 1: them all wrong. And it's like, somehow it's not narrows

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Speaker 1: down to mark. This is not just us, this is

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Speaker 1: the entire it's entire football gods. I'll start with myself though,

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Speaker 1: because if I'm gonna throw it at everyone else, it's

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Speaker 1: like I had should be looking at my own, like

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Speaker 1: insane predictions that don't come true in a weekly basis,

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Speaker 1: playoff time delivers Uh, it's delivered surprises, it's delivered well

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Speaker 1: played games. And I think in today's NFL the season

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Speaker 1: sloppy football, you get poorly officiated games. Playoffs are delivering, though,

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Speaker 1: and they and they delivered last year, that delivered before that.

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Speaker 1: Uh that you know, soon we'll be talking about finances

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Speaker 1: and rebuilding rosters. But for now, I'm enjoying these playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And and as you stood, West, I know you are

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Speaker 1: a not even a closet Patriot fan anymore. That is

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Speaker 1: your new team. You were very you were happy in

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Speaker 1: the downstairs today. We could all sense it that the

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Speaker 1: Patriots found a way to come back, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to that game first. Well, as I've mentioned many times,

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Speaker 1: my loyalty is to good football, and I love watching

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Speaker 1: greatness in any sport. The Patriots are great, and I

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Speaker 1: stand in all of what Brady and Belichick and that

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Speaker 1: whole crew have accomplished. All Right, so this is how

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do this. We're gonna go through both games obviously, Um,

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Speaker 1: You know, he's a he's a he's a little guy,

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Speaker 1: So Greg's in Philly, hopefully still alive, and we'll try

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Speaker 1: game he uh covered, and also his beloved Patriots and

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Speaker 1: um also my you know here from Colleen to who's

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Speaker 1: Brady up under shutter, takes the staff. He play fixed twine.

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Speaker 1: playing with twelve stitches and his throwing hand. According to

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady rallied the Patriots back from a double digit

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Speaker 1: Amadal in the playoffs is insane anyway. So that last

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Speaker 1: It's all up to the Eagles now. And speaking of

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Speaker 1: the Eggles, um, Colleen Wolf a hero an official hero

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Speaker 1: in the Around the NFL podcast that also uh Pennsylvania native.

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Speaker 1: I think she grew up outside Philadelphia and a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge Eagles fan. And I contacted Colleen over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Mark would probably say, oh, she was probably drunk at

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Speaker 1: that point. No, I think she. I think she's often sober,

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Speaker 1: like when she wakes up potentially in the morning. Give

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Speaker 1: me a percentage of drunk to sober Fox. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be fair here. I think that it is a very

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Speaker 1: solid sixty. I reached out to Connie Fox this weekend.

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Speaker 1: I said, hey, uh, in advance of the NFC title game,

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Speaker 1: which I know you're attending. Um, I'm paraphrasing here, this

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Speaker 1: wasn't the exact text. Would you mind sending me just

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Speaker 1: a quick voicemail right before kickoff and immediately after the game.

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Speaker 1: So as we get into the talk of Eagles and Vikings,

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Speaker 1: let's start by time machine five minutes prior to kick off.

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Speaker 1: Connie Fox's voicemail to the old user Dan. It's Connie.

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Speaker 1: I haven't left anyone a voicemail like five years. And

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Speaker 1: you know I don't really do this whole bone thing,

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Speaker 1: but I gotta tell you I'm on the field right

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Speaker 1: now in Philadelphia. That's not even a humble rag. That's

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Speaker 1: just a great bag. I'm feeling really freaking nervous about

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Speaker 1: this game, and I know Mark Tesslers through all sorts

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Speaker 1: of staying against the Eagles and about the Eagles a

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Speaker 1: few the Eagles. But listen, here's what I'm going to say.

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Speaker 1: I think that there's going to win. I have a

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Speaker 1: feeling if they're going to pull this one out and

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Speaker 1: the Vikings they will not be hosting a hold super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: This here, it's gonna soda everything. Eagles to do it,

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Speaker 1: all right, So I'll call you after the game, stay

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Speaker 1: right there. Five to the highlights. The slap here coming

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Speaker 1: for wash He's hit and it's intercepted, gets picked off

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Speaker 1: by Robinson. Robinson at the fund Puts Park, of course

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Speaker 1: the field. Patrick Robinson looks for a block. Now he's

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Speaker 1: at the truby. He's at the fifteen. The top of

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Speaker 1: five tips Doyle pid Robinson. There's the first of the

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Speaker 1: septions by an active Eagle him play offst What a

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Speaker 1: huge play that was. For the second straight week, the

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Speaker 1: Eagles were underdogs in their own building, and for the

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Speaker 1: second straight week, they made everyone look like idiots. Nick

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Speaker 1: Foles played the game of his life, throwing for three

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Speaker 1: fifty two yards, three touchdowns, and are passer rating north

496
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Speaker 1: of one forty against the NFL's top ranked defense, no less,

497
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Speaker 1: a dominant performance that powered the Eagles to a thirty

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Speaker 1: eight seven win over the Vikings. Who to use a

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Speaker 1: maddinism must be wondering where did that truck come from? Mark?

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Speaker 1: This game started with they masterfil touchdown drive by case

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Speaker 1: Keenum and then everything changed. Oh that drive was I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's utterly forgotten at this point, but it was pristine.

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Speaker 1: It was something that made you think the Vikings are

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Speaker 1: going to come out of here with thirty something points

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Speaker 1: in this game if they played this way, the pick

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Speaker 1: six happens, and then from there they have essentially a

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Speaker 1: punt three and out, punt three and out, a fumble,

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Speaker 1: a punt, a drive that ended on downs, another drive

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Speaker 1: at an times goes. At that point they're down by

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Speaker 1: a hill of points and going forward on fourth down,

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Speaker 1: and a pick to end the game. I mean, thirty

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Speaker 1: eight unanswered points and an utter onslaught. I don't I

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Speaker 1: can't remember a playoff game where it's not just because

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Speaker 1: of the pick six, but one that after that pick six,

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Speaker 1: the team, the Vikings went completely to sleep. I think

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Speaker 1: the crowd a lot to do with it too. Whether

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Speaker 1: front four, which we thought at certain times during the

518
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Speaker 1: season might be the best front four in the league,

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Speaker 1: disappeared for almost the whole game. They had so many

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Speaker 1: coverage bust out of a discipline defense norly disciplined, and

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Speaker 1: nick fools. I'm gonna eat a keeping helping of crow here,

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Speaker 1: which is probably the best meal. I never doubted their

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Speaker 1: coaching staff all year. Flip frank Wright Doug Peterson have

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Speaker 1: been phenomenal. Jim Schwartz on the other side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: I doubted Nick Fools. My philosophy on football analysis that

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Speaker 1: you always trust your eyes. You have to. It's the

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Speaker 1: only way to do football annalysis. My eyes told me

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Speaker 1: he wasn't good. He hasn't been good for a few years.

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Speaker 1: He was phenomenal in this game. It looked like an

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Speaker 1: out of body experience. He looked like a different quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And what impressed me most was continuing to attack downfield.

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Speaker 1: Hours after we had seen Boardles kind of go in

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Speaker 1: the tank and stop attacking. Fools just kept attacking aggressively

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Speaker 1: downfield and looking downfield, playing with a confidence that we

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Speaker 1: have not seen out of him. I think you can

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Speaker 1: point to John d Filippo, and you can point to

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and the coaches because the one note and

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Speaker 1: you hear this all the time and it's sort of like,

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Speaker 1: what is it mean? But they said, oh, we we

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Speaker 1: really coached up Nick Foles to be loose this week.

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Speaker 1: We just wanted to say be loose, just have fun.

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Speaker 1: And it's like a lot of times that can result

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Speaker 1: in just a heap of mistakes from a guy like Foles. Right,

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Speaker 1: because your eyes were not wrong on any level about

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Speaker 1: what we had seen from Poles. The offense went to

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Speaker 1: sleep under him. But then today the deep ball, which

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Speaker 1: everyone you know that these stat packages, which is compile

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Speaker 1: and compile, Nick Foles can't throw the deep ball. Next

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Speaker 1: gen stats tells you can't throw the deep ball. Tape

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Speaker 1: tells you can't. Then today's unfurling. I mean it started

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Speaker 1: with Tori Smith dropping what would have been a fifty

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Speaker 1: four yard catch, but then all Sean Jeffrey, Tori Smith

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Speaker 1: gets a touchdown. I mean he's whipping it down Phil.

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Speaker 1: He put the Vikings defense away. It didn't help that

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Speaker 1: and send Dahill was lost again. But in general, guys

556
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Speaker 1: that have been absolutely pro Bowl level defensively all season,

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Speaker 1: none of it showed up for the Vikings. Here's the

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Speaker 1: stat that will tell you everything you need to know

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Speaker 1: about how precise falls was. Everybody's like, oh well, two

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Speaker 1: thousand Nick Foles show up again. Well, this guy is

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Speaker 1: better than that guy. Ever was on hasses traveling twenty

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Speaker 1: plus yards downfield. This is a staff from PF. He

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Speaker 1: was four of six, including that drop to Tory Smith,

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Speaker 1: for one and seventy two yards and two touchdowns of

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Speaker 1: passer rating of one nine he was slaughtering them and uh,

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Speaker 1: let's let's call out specifically, this was the touchdown to

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Speaker 1: put the game away. Uh. And some of these throws

568
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: he was making downfield, there are a lot of coverage bust.

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Speaker 1: The Vikings play terribly on defense, and it was kind

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Speaker 1: of a shock. But some of these throws came with

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Speaker 1: like a muddy pocket and he was just eyes down

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Speaker 1: the field making the throw. Here's the one that really

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Speaker 1: put the game away. Steps he is looking, he is

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Speaker 1: going deep out of alone and I touched. That is

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Speaker 1: Jeffri Jeffery five sick touchdown. That was with a one

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Speaker 1: o nine to play in the second quarter, and it

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Speaker 1: went from seven nothing. Uh in the early minutes of

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Speaker 1: the game too boom seven points, fourteen points, seventeen points,

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Speaker 1: twenty four unanswered points in the to close out the

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Speaker 1: first half, and all of a sudden, it's seven West

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Speaker 1: and let's talk about so falls out of his mind.

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Speaker 1: I wish they gave Conference game m vps away because

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Speaker 1: they do that in baseball, and it's a worthy award

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Speaker 1: because it's such a huge game in fos career. But

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Speaker 1: Foals would have had it. But the Vikings defense West

586
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Speaker 1: like just like the Steelers defense went to hell last week,

587
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: but that was not a great defense, especially with Ryan

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Speaker 1: Shay's ear out. The Jack's defense up and down as

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Speaker 1: the season war on. But the Vikings defense is the

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Speaker 1: one thing we could count on. And what happened, I

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Speaker 1: would say, let me, let me approach it this way.

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Speaker 1: For three and a half months, when I looked at

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Speaker 1: the Eagles team, the vision I had was Carson went

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Speaker 1: spinning out of pressure to create magic. The vision I

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Speaker 1: have from this one game is la Garrett Blunt absolutely

596
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Speaker 1: steamrolling Andrew Sendejo on the way to a touchdown. They

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Speaker 1: were the more physical team. They brought the fight to

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Speaker 1: the Vikings. They showed up. And that's what the Eagles

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Speaker 1: defense has in all year. That's what their offensive line

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Speaker 1: has been all year. And I I thought that the

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Speaker 1: Vikings were similarly built, similarly well coached, and today the

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00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: Eagles had a different level to them and all of

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Speaker 1: those areas defense, offensive line, coaching staff, it was. They

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Speaker 1: looked like a juggernaut. No team, no defense in the

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Speaker 1: NFL was better on third down than the Vikings. And

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00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: then in this game, prior to garbage time, which is

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Speaker 1: the entire fourth quarter, but before a garbage time. The

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00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: Eagles are nine for eleven on third down, shredding the secondary.

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Speaker 1: And I as as I've said in the last week

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, I have a close friend Greg,

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Speaker 1: who was a huge Viking so and he suffered as

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Speaker 1: I've suffered with the Jets, and even he was confident

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Speaker 1: going into this game because everything if you studied their

614
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: games every week, if you've watched how this season unfold,

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Speaker 1: if you watched how Nick Foles looked in the past

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Speaker 1: four weeks since becoming the starter in Philadelphia, it all

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Speaker 1: trended towards this Minnesota defense smothering folds and it was

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00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: just a different unit. Well, I mean that, to me

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Speaker 1: is the most surprising outcome of this week. If you

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Speaker 1: said thirty eight seven, I think most of us comfortably

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Speaker 1: would have thought, if things things is gonna go totally south,

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Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be a terrible game by Nick Foles,

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Speaker 1: because we hadn't seen that from case Keenum. And then

624
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Speaker 1: for this to be the game where you get case

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Speaker 1: Keenum's only pick six of the season and you get

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Speaker 1: his second lost fumble of the season, which those two

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00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: turnovers changed this game entirely, and you go back to

628
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: that Saints game. You're up seventeen nothing at the half

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Speaker 1: and lost in the miracle finish. Was the way that

630
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: New Orleans went up and down the field on the

631
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Speaker 1: Vikings in the second half twenty four points, which you thought, okay,

632
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: it's new. That's the Drew Brees led versatile offense. I

633
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: get it to the playoffs are crazy, but they've given

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00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: up sixty two points in six quarters now. It's almost

635
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: like this team just went to sleep on defense six

636
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Speaker 1: quarters ago when you still needed another four from them

637
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Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl. It makes you wonder what's

638
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: in store for them next year because this might be

639
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Speaker 1: their best chance. And and rap sheet was talking about

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00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: Keenam possibly getting the franch ice tag. I cannot see

641
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: the Vikings allocating twenty three million dollars for a quarterback.

642
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: Even as well as Keenham played this year with his

643
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: skill set that was bolstered by Pat Shermer's coaching. A

644
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: good offensive line, great wide receiver, is a strong running game.

645
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: All of that isn't necessarily going to be in place

646
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: next year. You don't allocate that money to Keenum. I

647
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: just wonder what's the staying power of this team. That's

648
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: a tricky decision for the Vikings now, and we have

649
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: plenty of time to talk about how they're gonna play it.

650
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: But Keenum for three months was everything they could have

651
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: asked for, and then he came down to earth. Now,

652
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: how are you going to view him going forward? They

653
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: have a big decision to make twenty three million on

654
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: a one year deal to case Keenum. That feels like

655
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: a hard pill to swallow. My sense is they like

656
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford a lot more than everyone else like Sam

657
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: Bradford too. I also though, one of the biggest supporters

658
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: in the entire NFL of Sam Bradford is Pat Schremer.

659
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: Now Pat Shermer's gone. I wonder where if it follows

660
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: him too, if he follows him or that's a good

661
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: that's a good question, or if or just who this

662
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: the remaining coaching alf well favor because they put a

663
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: lot of effort into helping Teddy Bridgewater hell as well.

664
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: And you've got all three of these guys heading towards

665
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: free agencies, So a lot of questions. It was interesting

666
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: to me, first of all, that crowd, Oh my goodness,

667
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: they gave the Eagles the late kickoff and there were

668
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: Eagles fans reading, you know, reading around the web today

669
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: the Information super Highway, uh that were they were tailgating

670
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: from six am on. By the time that games started,

671
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: it was a absolute fever pitch pandemonium. And then by

672
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: the by the end of the game. And you gotta

673
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: feel bad for Vikings fans for a lot of reasons.

674
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: Number one, their team is not going to the Super Bowl.

675
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: But now the team that will be representing the NFC

676
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: is coming to their building and it will be filled

677
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: and I mean teaming it will be. It will just

678
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: be packed with Eagles fans because I don't know how

679
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: many Patriots fans and maybe they'll surprise us are going

680
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: to travel to Minneapolis when they're in the Super Bowl

681
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: every year. And this was a Eagles team, Eagles fan base.

682
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: By the end of the game, they were doing the

683
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: skull clap and chanting folds folds, which is well done

684
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: fair play. Uh so that I think home field advantage

685
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: was such a big part of this for the Eagles,

686
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: But that's almost like not giving them enough credit because

687
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: they delivered a amazing performance in this game. I think

688
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: they're fans, I mean they get a bad they get

689
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: a bad rap and every fan base has that element.

690
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: Well that's fine them especially, but it's really I think

691
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: they own it, if anything, they own it. But it's

692
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: like it has been thirteen years since they made a

693
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and it's it is crazy. Although this narrative

694
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: is gonna tire out real quick because let's not call

695
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: it a super Bowl rematch. That was one of the

696
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: duller super Bowls that I ever watched. It wasn't very close.

697
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: There's really not much linking these two teams together, but

698
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: it is a super Bowl rematch for all it's worth.

699
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: It is weird though, to me that we came out

700
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: of this weekend without Minnesota having the chance to play

701
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: in their own stadium. I think that that was something

702
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: psychologically that was in our minds as a possibility for

703
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: for the last month and it's just been yanked away.

704
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: What about them? After the Dick touched down last Sunday,

705
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: they seemed like a team of destiny and that just

706
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: again unless the Patriots are involved this stuff, and that's

707
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: not even always true. This stuff is so hard to predict.

708
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: The Vikings had everything in front of him. We were

709
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: talking last week. You know, one of the Saints is

710
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: big regrets of getting picked off on the last play

711
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: of that game. Is they knew they had a chance

712
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: to go to Philadelphia and go against Nick Foles. Well,

713
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: you know, Nick Foles looks like a guy that could

714
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: beat anybody. Well, here's the thing, because we totally trust

715
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: what we're gonna get with Brady, and Belichick is going

716
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: to be there a week after week what happened with

717
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: Folds today? In this week to week NFL, Everyone's gonna

718
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: remember this latest game and talk about how Grady is

719
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: in the chemistry and all this. Hey, this is you know,

720
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: does it mean anything against New England? I'm not sure.

721
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm even willing to say it does. Good question. I

722
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: worry about underselling the Eagles, who are one of the

723
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: mentally toughest teams in the league. And I think when

724
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: you consider increasing complexity of football with each generation, Belichick's

725
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: Patriots are the best coach teams in the history of

726
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: the sport, and the Eagles this year were the second

727
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: best coach team in the sport all season long. They

728
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: were so well coached, so much mental toughness. So I

729
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: think that's that's something to look forward to in the

730
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, that you're getting the two most fundamentally sound teams,

731
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: and one that lost its m v P quarterback, lost

732
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: its Hall of Fame left tackle, lost its middle linebacker.

733
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: And here they are to go on and take the page.

734
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: And you know to that point, by the way, lose

735
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: all those key players. Keep on trucking. To use a

736
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: term from your guys generation, and this is this is

737
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: for you, Mark, because I know that you, uh, you

738
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: lost your lock today and you know that the own

739
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: sixteen thing happened. Another rough season in the NFL. I've

740
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: stopped asking for anything at this point, um, so I'm

741
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: gonna give you something. All these losses that the Eagles

742
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: overcame their scheming in the playoffs to beat all these

743
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: stud teams. And the man at the front of it

744
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: all was Doug Peterson. And it's amazing how he was

745
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: able to overcome this From Michael Lombardi, I beloved seventies,

746
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: Sixers hired a guy by the name of Roy Ruben

747
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: from Long Island University. Poor Roy. He finished four and

748
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: forty seven before the Sixers candem four and forty seven.

749
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: Years later, Fred Carter said, letting Reuben coach the Sixers

750
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: like letting a teenager run a big corporation. Hey, Fred,

751
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: Meet the Eagles head coach Doug Peterson. Now everyone knows

752
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: Peterson isn't a head coach. He might be less qualified

753
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: the coach a team than anyone I've seen in my

754
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: thirty plus years in the NFL. When will the Eagles

755
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: admit their mistake? Will they throw away seventeen stubbornly sticking

756
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: to the Peterson principal, the immortal Roy Reuben Last at

757
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: fifty one games. I've been Doug Peterson last, way less

758
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: than that. Michael Lombardi of The Ringer and former Cleveland

759
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: Browns general manager. Well, I don't know what your favorite.

760
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what led him to tow

761
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: with such already say that about a head coach? Who

762
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: where did that surety come from? It felt like evaluating

763
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: going on there? But Peterson roundabout way of saying, Um,

764
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: Peterson has been at the forefront of all this. What

765
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: he's been able to get this team uh out of

766
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: adversity and to survive the loss of their m v P.

767
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: It's been pretty wild. Um, So congratulations the Eagles to

768
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 1: lombardies credit here you have what's what are you thinking?

769
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: What's going on? I will say one thing. You know,

770
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: you took the Jet. The Eagles fan base love you guys. Great,

771
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,479
Speaker 1: you took the Jets trademarked something or other at one point,

772
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: what was it they took Gang, Well, they tried to

773
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: take gangring but not allowed. It's been disallowed. And someone

774
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: told me ten years ago that listen, it's gonna be

775
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: really rough decade. But ten years from now, this plucky

776
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: little underdog team, underdogs in their home stadium are gonna

777
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: be all wearing dog masks and barking like crazy on

778
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: their way to the Super Bowl. I would have thought, well, hell,

779
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: there's a reason to stick around and watch the Browns,

780
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: but there wasn't. Yeah, that be careful. They're Eagles fans

781
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: with the dogmasks stuff. We get it. It's a bit

782
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: and your your popular offensive lineman made it a thing,

783
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: but let's not get too carried away and try to

784
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: make it a thing long term. You could use it

785
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: for this playoff run, just like you know, Gang Green

786
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with you, and I think Bird

787
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: Gang a while back they took from the Arizona Cardinals.

788
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: You know, you got enough going on, and Greg Rosenthal

789
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: were about to get on the line. He had a

790
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: great tweet that really uh that really uh sums up

791
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Eagles fans right now? Who

792
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: really are I mean Eagles fans and Patriots fans are

793
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: going to be swarming into Minneapolis. Just think about that.

794
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: Here's a tweet from Greg the Vikings beat writers in

795
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: front of me on deadline while Eagles fans knock on

796
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: the press box window taunting them. That is hell. And

797
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: now let's get Greg on the line, Greg Rosenthal. Greg,

798
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: were those Vikings beat writers able to file their copy?

799
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: They were fashional. They barely looked up at the insanely drunk,

800
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: middle aged Eagles women bomb just waving dog mass delight

801
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: to us. Uh yeah, the we You know, it's been

802
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: all over social media throughout the day, like the Eagles

803
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: fans getting given the late kickoff, just got got into it,

804
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 1: got at it, went for it. What was the scene

805
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: like in Philly for this game? Yeah? The fact, I

806
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: don't know if you mentioned they were greasing the poles.

807
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: I watched back past a couple of those poles that

808
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: the police had made. I mean, it's it's just asking

809
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: for it to have a six forty p m. I mean,

810
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: come back, to us NFL. I know it's good for

811
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: the ratings, I guess, but it's just it is an

812
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: interminable uh day to wait that long for football, even

813
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: to wait the three ten games a little too much

814
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: in this town. I mean, like every single person was

815
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: wearing a Brian Dawkins jersey. I think in the entire

816
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: city the rule it's a great choice. Um. Your thoughts

817
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: on the game in general, and we've we've been talking

818
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: about just how stunning it was from that first drive,

819
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: uh from the Vikings and then it had it took

820
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: such a turn. What to you was, how did this happen?

821
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: How did the game turn? Was it the pick six

822
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: just change the entire um nature of the game in

823
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: your opinion? I mean, it's like cliche, but I was

824
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: surprised as how more physical the Eagles were on both sides.

825
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: I think the Vikings were too. Terence Newman, Um, you know,

826
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: I just came back from the Viking blocker room and

827
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: he said he couldn't believe that that the Eagles just

828
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: had more energy than then, that it almost felt like

829
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: they wanted it more than them. And I don't know

830
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: if that's that with hindsight or what, but that the

831
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: Eagles on both lines, and they've been good all year,

832
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: just kind of just eight the Vikings lunch and I

833
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: thought that was the key. I think if you put

834
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: k Keena behind that Eagles offensive line, they would be

835
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: just fine too. But it's like those two groups up

836
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 1: front for the Eagles think just kind of didn't didn't

837
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 1: let the teamers. I mean, you watched Nick Foles live

838
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: last week, you watched him again this week. For us,

839
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: we felt like, well, what happened? What sort of science

840
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: project did they do with Nick Foles to turn him

841
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: into this super warrior this time around? The deep ball

842
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: was there after all these metrics studies telling us that

843
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: he can't throw deep I mean being there live, what

844
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: did you see different in different from falls? Well, it's true.

845
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: I mean it's everyone's just like, he can't do this,

846
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: he can't do that. Then suddenly destroying this defense that

847
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: we've crowed about all season. I think it comes back

848
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: to Peterson. I mean Jason Kelsey was talking about after

849
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: the game, like their their knack for dialing up the

850
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: right play at the right time. I mean, these receivers

851
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: were open. So that is partly on Minnesota. And then

852
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: once Foles got it going, like the one throw on

853
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: the run that he had over the shoulder when they

854
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: were up I think seven at that point. I mean

855
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: that's when you knew Nick Foles was just kind of

856
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: on another level. And I mean I don't know. I

857
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: mean he's capable of this that Pat Shermer said after

858
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: the game. Look, I was whip him when he was

859
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: twenty seven touchdowns in two interceptions. We know Nick Foles

860
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: can do this for for sixty minutes. Maybe not for

861
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: sixteen games, but he can do it for a game.

862
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: Speaking of Peterson, you mentioned I got some breaking news, guys.

863
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: This tweet from Michae Lombardi Doug Peterson won me over,

864
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: making one's great. I was not sure it was him

865
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: getting Folds to play this. Well is him hat off? Respect? Well?

866
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: There you go. What else can you ask for? Listen,

867
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: it's a little more. You don't even need to play

868
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. I mean that's the That's it. Uh

869
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: and uh any other thoughts on on on the game

870
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: you were at Greg, We're gonna have two weeks to

871
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: talk about the Eagles, but anything that you know you

872
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: really want to get off your chest? Um? No, all right, Well,

873
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: I got well, let's talk about the other side. Then,

874
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: Greg the thrown vis back to another Super Bowl? Do

875
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 1: you have anything this year? Were you watching this game?

876
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: I think you were obviously preparing for your job, but

877
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: did you have a place to to watch the latest

878
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: great fairy tale from your boy Brady? I was, of

879
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: course watching, although I did. I did have a quick

880
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: trip down to the field, but then it seemed pointless

881
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: trying to watch the Patriots game on the JumboTron, thinking like,

882
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: what what am I doing here? Just go back up

883
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: and lets the games start. Taking some notes. Uh, It's

884
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: weird though, you know, you're surrounded by all these people there.

885
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: There's no sound. You've got like Connor or in a

886
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: very good looking blazer, you know, talking trash to you.

887
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: So it's not a normal place to watch a game.

888
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: I saw a tweet from Connor that said something like,

889
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: I wish you were here, Dan Hansis to see Greg

890
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: Rosenthal trying to talk himself into the Patriots actually being

891
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: in trouble in this one sounds right, that's that's paraphrasing.

892
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: Um No, I would say the level of how tense

893
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: I was watching it, like, you know, it's frustrating myself

894
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: just as a person like I don't you know, like

895
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: going through these sort of emotions. Right, well, that checks out.

896
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: Good news, buddy. We're all gonna be in Minneapolis next

897
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: week and another week preparing for a final Patriots game

898
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: to close the NFL season. And by the way, you

899
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: you'd be shocked to know and Weston Market both contact

900
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: you privately just what a class act I've been all

901
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: through the show towards the Patron. It's been very impressive. Yeah,

902
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was definitely you know, bitter

903
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: sweet not being able to be with you guys during

904
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: the first three and a half quarters of that game,

905
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: because I'm sure it would have been you know, it's

906
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: delightful experience. I mean, the whole newsroom, to be honest

907
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: with you, it was many disappointed people by the end

908
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 1: of the game. Anyway, Greg, you gotta file some copy,

909
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: Like I said, NFL dot com slash Rosenthal to check

910
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: out his piece. It's gonna be Viking centered correct or incorrect. No,

911
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna be a little bit of a

912
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: look ahead and sex ball and and some flavor from tonight.

913
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Greg, do you at this point you're in

914
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: a lathered up, you know, somewhat probably happily angry metropolis

915
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: that are just beside themselves with draft the anger. I mean,

916
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: they're probably like getting out, you know, decades of anger.

917
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: And do you just go on the NFL expense account

918
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 1: and hired like an armored limo to take you back

919
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: to your room so that you aren't taken down in

920
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: the what probably feels like the third act of Mother

921
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: right now in Philadelphia. The by the way, the armor

922
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: the armored limo is for NFL Network people, the dot

923
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: com is it just it's a cab. Mike Silver is

924
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: getting that, No, Mark, I want to get in the mix.

925
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: When I get away from you guys, I'm like a

926
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: totally different Okay, it's just out until four am. Um,

927
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna go crazy on the fine Colleen. At least

928
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: it's like it's Orleans. Yeah, it's like the Greg of

929
00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: Delaware days, this old acid rock band. All right, Greg, congratulations,

930
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: but you've done it again. All right for you guys Tuesday.

931
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: I feel like my five years NFL Network have been

932
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: one long march toward Greg's team being in the super

933
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: Bowl every single year. Thank you. More or less, that's

934
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: been I mean this is their third Super Bowl, Uh

935
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: in four years. There was another one that Mark and

936
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: I we've been this is going. We've been very blessed

937
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: Mark hashtag blessed that we This will be I think

938
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: the seventh Super Bowl we've covered in person, and four

939
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: of them in the seven years will be the same team.

940
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: It's quite an achievement. Yeah, and it's uh, I mean

941
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 1: up until I think I've behind the scenes lobbying hard

942
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: not to cover the Patriots this time, which I've covered

943
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: three times in a row. Uh, running out of storylines

944
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: a lot much. Can they teach you? Well, they know

945
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: they could teach me alone. I mean they like they

946
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: don't say anything anyway. Yeah, the zero access. You know,

947
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: we were steel trap. Yeah. Last year at least people

948
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: could like talk themselves into oh, Marty Bennett media Night.

949
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: This year. This year it's like James Harrison. Yeah, good

950
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: luck with that. Go ask your questions to James Harrison.

951
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: See how that goes. UM a couple of things before

952
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: we go. A couple of things. First things off, we

953
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: never talked about the desert. You're not a lot of

954
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: talk about the desert around here, but the desert people

955
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: Um already have the Eagles as uh, the biggest underdog

956
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: in almost a decade in the Big Game. That seems foolish. Well,

957
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: they must not be in on the Nick Foles experience

958
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: just yet, but give them two weeks. There's a lot

959
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: of time for things to change. Also, I will shout

960
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: out to Howie Roseman, because never forget Howie Roseman, a

961
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: man who crawled through a river of and came out

962
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: clean on the other side, now a NFC champion GM.

963
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: After he was sent deep into the Pocono's to live

964
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: in a cottage that was his work office, Chip sent

965
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: him out of the building and said, you are history,

966
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: and he came all the way back baby Executive of

967
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: the Year and um. One last note connected to the Eagles.

968
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: Let's check in with Colleen wool After the Eagles defeated

969
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: the Vikings in convincing fashion, Connie to the Super Bowl.

970
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: Don't believe dance She Yeah, she definitely has boots that

971
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: will they'll counter out counteract the Chris go on the

972
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: polls uh in Philadelphia, she'll be on Broad Street partying

973
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 1: the night away. And good for her. I mean everyone

974
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: in this unless you're Greg you never get to be

975
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: happy for your team, so at least she, as an

976
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: honorary hero, gets to celebrate and enjoy just once. Mark,

977
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: imagine not even winning the Super Bowl. I've often thought

978
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: about this, like it would be great. It would be

979
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: like life changing on some level if the Jets every

980
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. But even if they just got

981
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl in my lifetime, how fun that

982
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 1: two weeks is, and especially the you know weekend leading

983
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: it up to it. Just imagine how fun it must

984
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: be to be a fan of that can experience that.

985
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: And along those lines, I find Colleen's journey easy to

986
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: root for because she's not she If Eagles fans you

987
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: want to paint some of them is annoying, she is

988
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,479
Speaker 1: the opposite. She's ultra nervous. She's freaking out all season long.

989
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: She almost needed Carson Wentz to be taken out of

990
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: the picture for the perfect season, not to be at

991
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: her feet. She seemed to kind of dig in when

992
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: Foals took over, and now she's gotten the most improbable storyline.

993
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: So that kind of Eagles fan, I'm all about it.

994
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: Reset the season when Wentz got hurt because it was

995
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: they were the obvious favorite in the NFC, and then

996
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: reset expectations, and people like Connie were able to then say, well,

997
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: but we kind of got screwed here. It's been a

998
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: great ride. Whatever happens is gonna be gravy at this point.

999
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,479
Speaker 1: And then you got to tick through the two rounds

1000
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: of the NFC playoffs after your by and just experience

1001
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: pure glory both weeks and a great environment Philly. So

1002
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: the Eagles fans, I'm sure you're gonna be completely insane people.

1003
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm guessing. I looked it up. The capacity in that

1004
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: stadium in Minnesota's sixties six and change. Um, I would

1005
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 1: not be surprised if you have forty insane Philadelphia people

1006
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: at that game. I wonder if there's a group of

1007
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: New England fans that say, if we've skipped the last one,

1008
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: we've got to try to get there because this may

1009
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: be the last. I'd say it over and over, but

1010
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: someone feels a little bit different. But nobody thinks that

1011
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 1: right now, not not Patriots fans and certainly not Patriots haters.

1012
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 1: It feels like this is just gonna go on forever

1013
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: and ever and ever. At this post, I'm glad we

1014
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: didn't call tamposy tonight. That would have been next level insanity.

1015
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: He did flirt with the idea of giving her a

1016
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: call if the Patriots lost, probably only in loss. Do

1017
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: we would we call her? Do not want to hear

1018
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: from her? We've known Colleen for about three or four

1019
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: years now, and I would not want to dismiss her

1020
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: attitude towards the Eagles as cynicism. But it's certainly been

1021
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: a trepidation about having your heartbroken or giving yourself over

1022
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: to the possibility of putting your heart into that team,

1023
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: and it's been fun to see her be rewarded with

1024
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: this trip to the super Bowl. Alright, So that that's

1025
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: it for the flagship program, often imitated, never duplicated. We'll

1026
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: be back on Tuesday with our Tuesday video show, our

1027
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 1: last one of the year or the season at least,

1028
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: but I think it's the last one for a while.

1029
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll figure it out. Uh and then

1030
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: UH no show next Sunday because we will be traveling

1031
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: that day to Minnesota, and we have a big week

1032
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: lined up in Minnesota, the most we've ever done connected

1033
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: to the podcast. So we're very excited to share all

1034
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: that news with you when the time comes. But for now,

1035
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: it's time to say goodbye. Stand handsas signing off for

1036
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, The Mailman, Greg Rose Itthal, the Old Boss

1037
00:53:43,760 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: from Philadelphia, and Lindsay fault On Behind the Glass tell Tuesday,