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Speaker 1: All right, third hour of Clay and Buck starts right now.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us, everybody, and as promised, we

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Speaker 1: have this discussion that has gotten a lot of attention

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Speaker 1: in the press. I think a lot less attention just

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Speaker 1: from Main Street, from everyone all across the country trying

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Speaker 1: to keep up with the news. This has to do

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Speaker 1: with the Smithsonian specifically, but really museums more broadly, which

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Speaker 1: especially when you're talking about DC museums like the National

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Speaker 1: Portrait Gallery and have been filled with clay. What have

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Speaker 1: you been to any of these museums in recent years?

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Speaker 2: I have gone with you. I have not, so so

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Speaker 2: this is what got me blown up by the left.

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Speaker 2: When we were up in DC, my son was doing

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Speaker 2: so I took him to the National Air and Space Museum.

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Speaker 2: So I was just up at the National Air and

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Speaker 2: in DC, and it was fantastic. And now back to

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Speaker 2: you on talking about the Smithsonian. But I will come

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Speaker 2: back and tell you exactly what my take was on it.

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Speaker 2: But you lived in DC these are all free. I imagine,

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Speaker 2: what percentage of the audience do you think out there

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Speaker 2: right now has ever been to a Smithsonian museum. If

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Speaker 2: Smithsonian museum. So I would think at least half of

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Speaker 2: the people listening to us right now, he's.

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Speaker 1: Gonna say twenty five percent. But a big chunk, A

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Speaker 1: big chunk. I grew up in New York City and

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Speaker 1: I've never been to the Statue of Liberty, So I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes crazy things happen, But I feel like.

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Speaker 2: If you went to d C on a school trip

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Speaker 2: I would venture most people who go to Washington, d

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Speaker 2: C have been to at least one of the Smithsonians. Now,

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Speaker 2: has it been a while for me other than air

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Speaker 2: what President Trump has said, and.

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Speaker 1: This is where it all started. Let's let's uh, let's

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Speaker 1: gather together on this one here for a second. Trump

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Speaker 1: White House has called for a review of all current

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Speaker 1: and future exhibitions at eight Smithsonian museums. This has got

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Speaker 1: some of the major art museums involved as well. And

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Speaker 1: this is because of quote a desired or the quote

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Speaker 1: starts with alignment with American ideals, a desire to make

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Speaker 1: sure they're aligned with American ideals. President Trump truthed the following.

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Speaker 1: The museums throughout Washington but all over the country are

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Speaker 1: essentially the last remaining segment of woke. And there then

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Speaker 1: the White House released a list of US of ZEM

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Speaker 1: exhibits that it found objectionable. Trump has told his lawyers

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Speaker 1: to go through museums and this is the same thing

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Speaker 1: to earth with colleges and the universities. His administration has

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Speaker 1: sought changes, threatening funding cuts and even tax exempt status.

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Speaker 1: So the left is of course very upset about this.

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Speaker 1: And the reason they're very upset about this is that

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Speaker 1: they want these institutions to reflect their view.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Remember there's no neutral space here. They want these to

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Speaker 1: reflect their view of American history, which means highlighting oppressed

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Speaker 1: American history until the Industrial Revolution, Clay, and the one

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Speaker 1: and only thing that we're allowed to really think a

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Speaker 1: According to some of these museums, and there's a fight underway.

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Speaker 1: And I think this, I think this is a good thing.

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Speaker 1: I think that Trump should not allow the left wing

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Speaker 1: at our National Museum, Smithsonian Museum specifically. Here's a couple

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Speaker 1: of headlines for you, for yours truly, after the take

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Speaker 1: that I'm about to share with you. Fox News pundit

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Speaker 1: Some of you may have seen this, by the way,

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Speaker 1: part of history. The Fox News pundit compare slavery to

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Speaker 2: All right, here's what I said, and I bet you're

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Speaker 2: you disagree, I said, citing my trip to the Air

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Speaker 4: We went through that whole place.

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Speaker 2: many different The Right Brothers plane from Kitty Hawk is there,

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Speaker 2: recreated the original, one of the original versions.

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Speaker 2: the goal of the Smithsonians is to make people feel

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Speaker 2: an uplifting feeling. Now, there are other musings in Washington,

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Speaker 2: sites like the Air and Space Museum should not be

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: The administration highlighted a number of specific exhibits. I was

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Speaker 1: So there was a exhibit on LGBTQ plus history at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, LGBTQ that's not I would not sign off on

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean the history of LGBTQ plus it's got

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of other ones, Latinos with disabilities, a

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Speaker 1: drawing of Anthony Fauci at the National Portrait Gallery. Fauci is, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think this stuff is all very political.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, I think the idea is and I

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Speaker 2: think most of you would sign off on this. One

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Speaker 4: Of America almost exclu usively.

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Speaker 2: They've got the Oppression Olympics all the time, the idea

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Speaker 2: irredeemable country with a sordid past. I mean, really the

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Speaker 2: would say is six hundred thousand some odd people died

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Speaker 2: I think that's what our museum should do.

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Speaker 1: which that always seems to get left out of this. Yes,

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Speaker 1: see it through the institutions of museums. And enough is enough.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this claim, what other country would do?

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Speaker 2: This?

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Speaker 1: Find to me another country? I mean, the only thing

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Speaker 1: this idea that you're gonna have museums that seek within

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Speaker 4: I think that's true.

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Speaker 2: And I also believe that what Trump sees is the

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Speaker 2: And I think most of you out there that our

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. As we said,

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Speaker 1: Trump had a meeting today with the pre KOREEA and

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Speaker 1: Recently he spoke about the Executive Order on burning flags.

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Speaker 5: What the penalty is going to be. If you burn

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Speaker 5: when I said the Statute and Monument Act, ten years

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Speaker 1: Okay, Clay, I know you want to dive in on

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you got some other ideas on that one too.

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Speaker 1: I just if it went to the current Supreme Court,

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Speaker 4: That is wrong.

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Speaker 1: It is part of the left wing DEI communists reordering

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Speaker 2: Look, I disagree with the President on this. I don't

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Speaker 1: a poll and it's not yours, or you know, you've

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Speaker 1: created an incendiary device in a public square, or so

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Speaker 1: they'll they'll find some way and then they hit you

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Speaker 1: with a hate crime enhancement. And let me just say,

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Speaker 1: I think hate crimes I don't view I think hate

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Speaker 1: crimes are effectively the enhancements you get from hate crimes

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Speaker 1: just comes from some people are considered to be a

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Speaker 1: higher status of victim than others for the same conduct

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Speaker 1: or the same act. So in principle, disagree with with

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Speaker 1: hate crime enhancements. You know, obviously I don't like hate crimes.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's not the same thing as saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: you've got these people that have been arrested for example,

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Speaker 1: for for like leaving a skid mark on a street

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Speaker 1: because there's a Pride mural there.

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Speaker 4: It's a street.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people can drive on a street, and are you

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Speaker 1: get do you get arrested for driving too fast in

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Speaker 1: another intersection and leaving some marks on something. No, then

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't be arrested for this. They play these games

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Speaker 1: they want they want the law to protect certain classes

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Speaker 1: and that includes certain flag burning situations. And that has

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Speaker 1: to stop. That has to be there. You know that

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court I think should take that up too

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Speaker 1: and just say, look, you can't play these games anymore

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Speaker 1: where you have an end run on the right to

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Speaker 1: burn flags, or you know, you have the sort of

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Speaker 1: backdoor way of really punishing some people and then everything else.

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Speaker 1: The American flag, it's all this is completely fine to burn,

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Speaker 1: burn as many as you want. So man, I remember

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Speaker 1: there was people still think this is crazy when I

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Speaker 1: say it. There were students who held a flag burning

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Speaker 1: on my campus in college after nine to eleven Clay Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a a you know about I don't know, maybe eight

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Speaker 1: students or something. They were actually not from my college.

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Speaker 1: This came out later. They were from Hampshire down the road.

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Speaker 1: But Hampshire is such a I'm just being honest, an

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Speaker 1: unseerious academic institution, top to bottom, just the truth, just

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Speaker 1: facts that they came to AMers because they thought it

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Speaker 1: would get the more attention, and it did. Boston Globe

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Speaker 1: wrote it up, but you know that mentality was there.

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Speaker 1: It was, oh, we're still burying people from nine to

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Speaker 1: eleven or still finding out you know, if anyone's where

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Speaker 1: people's remains are, let's have a big flag burning on campus.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I understand very much how it upsets

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Speaker 1: people and how it's it's a I'm with you in that,

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Speaker 1: I strong disagree with it.

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Speaker 4: I just don't.

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Speaker 2: I think the president doesn't have the authority here, and

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Speaker 2: I don't see how I don't even have the authority.

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Speaker 2: I don't even think it's a good idea to try

487
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Speaker 2: to start to make these designations. Again, I think you

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Speaker 2: should be able to burn legally the American flag, the

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Speaker 2: Israeli fat the flag, the Palestinian flag, any sort of

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Speaker 2: flag that has to do with any statement. By the way,

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Speaker 2: we're in college football season, a state flag, a flag

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Speaker 2: that is somehow in some way associated with with anybody

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Speaker 2: out there. I think again, to your point, you shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be prosecuted because you decide to drive over gay pride

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Speaker 2: flags that are on that are painted on the on

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Speaker 2: the road, Like, why is that a thing in the

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Speaker 2: first place. You're basically demanding or in some way putting

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Speaker 2: it in the context where you're going to be driving

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Speaker 2: over it all the time. I think you should be

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Speaker 2: able to burn a transflag, I think a gay rights flag,

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Speaker 2: whatever you want to burn. Again, I'm I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: I would do it, but I don't like the idea

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Speaker 2: of penalizing direct political speech, and I think the Spring

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Speaker 2: Court has been clear on this. I don't think you

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Speaker 2: have the ability to stop it.

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Speaker 1: A guy in twenty nineteen, an American was given a

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Speaker 1: sentence of fifteen years for stealing a Pride flag from

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Speaker 1: a church and burning it outside of a strip club. Now, anybody,

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Speaker 1: anybody who has any familiarity with how criminal law works

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Speaker 1: in general, a flag, I don't know what the flag?

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Speaker 1: What's the flag? I'm looking at a picture of it

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Speaker 1: right now. Flag was don't know fifty bucks? Did in

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Speaker 1: any other situation do you get? Do you get fifteen

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Speaker 1: years in prison for stealing something that's a fifty dollars item?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so?

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Speaker 4: Okay? But is crazy.

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Speaker 2: But the way they're able to punish it, to me

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Speaker 2: there is they stole something and then burned it.

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Speaker 1: No, I understand, But then they pile bonkers. They pile

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Speaker 1: on top of that a hate crime enhancement. He stole

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Speaker 1: a flag. Stealing a flag should be a thing that

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Speaker 1: you can't do that gets you, you know what, what

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Speaker 1: is the value of the flag and it should be

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Speaker 1: treated like you know, in this case, it should be

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Speaker 1: treated like you stole a pair of shoes.

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Speaker 4: Okay, don't do that again.

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Speaker 1: You know you have this on your record. Fifteen years

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Speaker 1: in prison class fifteen years.

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Speaker 4: People murder, people.

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Speaker 2: Look at fifteen years, people look at Biden absolutely absolutely insane.

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Speaker 1: So you know this, But this is what I mean

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Speaker 1: by they really LGBTQ plus and the transagenda really became

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Speaker 1: a state religion in this country. And I don't mean

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Speaker 1: like by state, I mean big s state of the

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Speaker 1: federal government and of the apparatus starting under the Obama

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Speaker 1: years and then of course really reaching its peak in

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Speaker 1: the Biden years. And it's madness. You know, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: but like you know, if you if someone, if someone's

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Speaker 1: gonna tell me they have a right to stand, you

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Speaker 1: know here in South Florida and burn an American flag.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to here that that if you burn

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Speaker 1: a Pride flag, you go to prison. That's that's not

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Speaker 1: that's not what you disagree. No, no, no, I agree with

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Speaker 1: all that. I just this may be a first. I'm

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Speaker 1: just going through mentions. I screwed up a sports analogy,

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Speaker 1: and I'm getting correct by this.

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Speaker 4: So I wanted to issue a correction.

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Speaker 2: Rick Monday, center fielder for the Cubs, and it was

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Speaker 2: at Dodger Stadium in nineteen seventy six. I thought the

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Speaker 2: Yankees were involved. This is before my time. I wasn't

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Speaker 2: born yet. I know the video as an iconic moment

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Speaker 2: in sports, but I got it.

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Speaker 4: I got it. I whiffed on that one. So let's

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Speaker 4: go tell you so I had to. Don't play.

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Speaker 1: Clay's been hanging out with me too much. He's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Yankees, Red Sox, whatever you know, say

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Speaker 1: those teams.

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Speaker 2: That plays the ball. I don't know the sports ball.

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Speaker 2: They sports mylogy. It happens, it happens.

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Speaker 1: The best of us play. Don't worry about it, all right,

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Speaker 1: will come in, take some of your calls and take

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Speaker 1: some of your thoughts. By the way, I you've got

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Speaker 1: thoughts on the flag burning thing. Very curious for you

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Speaker 1: to hear it. I think this is a move by

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Speaker 1: Trump at some First of all, I think that he

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Speaker 1: just passionately loves the American flag and appreciates symbolism, and

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Speaker 1: I think he deeply believes this is the right thing

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Speaker 1: for the country, So I don't. I just think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna run into procedural problems with this, and I think

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Courts weighed in pretty clearly on this. So

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Speaker 1: unless the Supreme Court is gonna overturn that previous decision,

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Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, what are we doing. But I also

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Speaker 1: think it highlights this pick and chew situation of well,

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Speaker 1: some flags, you know, you go to prison for if

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Speaker 1: you burn and we all know this, Oh it's stolenever, yeah, please,

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Speaker 1: some flags are sacrosanc some flags we give we give

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Speaker 1: special and some objects we give special you know, protection

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Speaker 1: to Nope, it's either you either have the right or

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Speaker 1: you don't have the right. It can't be a thing

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Speaker 2: Let's have some fun to close up shop here. I

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Speaker 2: meant to mention this earlier Bucket, Uh, my fourteen year

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Speaker 2: old he just turned fifteen, My fifteen year old nephew.

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Speaker 2: He is a freshman in high school. He's a good

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Speaker 2: tennis player. He practiced this weekend. He carries a radar

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Speaker 2: gun with him to see how his temper, how his

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Speaker 2: speed is on serves, and he showed me he hit

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Speaker 2: one oh two and one oh three this weekend in

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Speaker 2: his training sessions on his serves. Buck, I don't know

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Speaker 2: what the latest is on serve games. Whoa, oh fifties

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Speaker 2: fifteen just turn fifteen in May. Fresh Just to be clear,

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Speaker 2: Just to be clear, there have been you. There have

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Speaker 2: been Wimbledon champions who were sixteen, all right before any

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Speaker 2: of you were like, oh true story, check it out yourself.

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Speaker 2: Monica Sellis and Bory one at sixteen. And I believe

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Speaker 2: Boris Becker won Wimbledon at seventeen.

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Speaker 4: I think that's right. So yes, you can, you can

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Speaker 4: be really really good.

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Speaker 1: It's not it's not like football where you need extra

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Speaker 1: years of you know, sort of physical growth of you know,

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Speaker 1: you need to be like post college to be at

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Speaker 1: your maximum speed and strength.

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Speaker 4: You can be number one.

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Speaker 1: You give me the number one tennis player in the

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Speaker 1: world as an eighteen year old. Second, I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take the.

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Speaker 4: Heat off myself. Oh okay, okay, so we haven't forgot

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Speaker 4: about a little challenge you one hundred two hundred and three.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say this all started because you asked

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Speaker 1: me how fast I could serve, and I said, I

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Speaker 1: think about one hundred and I clocked in ninety seven

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Speaker 1: the first time I tried. Okay, so like, you know,

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Speaker 1: let's get real here. That's pretty close. But you know what, Laura,

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Speaker 1: your your your lovely wife has thrown down the gauntlet

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Speaker 1: on this one. We set parameters. She's not letting it slide.

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Speaker 1: So maybe I'll ge out there. I'll loosen up the shoulder.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. How tall is your nephew.

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Speaker 2: By the way, not that tall, Like I mean not

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Speaker 2: to insult him, but I think probably five eight something.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's fifteen. Oh, he's not growing, He's not

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Speaker 2: like sixty two or something. No, no, no, no, he's he's

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Speaker 2: a good player. Also, I think you'll appreciate this. I

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Speaker 2: met Bo Duke on Friday from the Dukes of Hazzard,

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Speaker 2: John Schneider.

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Speaker 4: If you remember that I love.

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Speaker 2: You may have been this might be one where you,

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Speaker 2: being like three or four years younger than me, actually

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Speaker 2: factors in in a big way. Did you watch the

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Speaker 2: Dukes of Hazzard growing up?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 4: But my brother who's your age, Mason, who you know

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Speaker 4: very well. He was a dude.

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Speaker 1: He watched it all that. He watched that Miamyvice and

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Speaker 1: night Rider.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I mean.

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Speaker 2: I love Dukes of Hazzard back in the day. Got

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Speaker 2: to meet John Schneider. Super nice guy.

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Speaker 4: Bo Duke.

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Speaker 2: Huge, looks like a left tackle in the NFL. He

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Speaker 2: was way way bigger than I thought he was gonna be.

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Speaker 2: All right, what do we got here in terms of

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Speaker 2: people who've been waiting to talk, Let's go to gem

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Speaker 2: in North Carolina.

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Speaker 4: What you got hey, Clay?

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Speaker 8: Love love you guys. However, take disagreement on the plant

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Speaker 8: in terms of burning it, gay, let me ask you

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Speaker 8: a question, do you speak a flag into it burning?

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Speaker 8: Or do you.

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Speaker 2: Actually I appreciate the Supreme Court. I understand that argument.

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Speaker 2: The Supreme Court disagrees with you. The Supreme Court has

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Speaker 2: said that burning a flag is a political speech right,

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Speaker 2: and that this has been controversial if you take it

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Speaker 2: out of flags. Remember it's been hugely controversial in Europe.

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Speaker 2: The Quran they burn sometimes as a statement, and it

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Speaker 2: is incredibly dangerous you might imagine to do. Sometimes Bibles

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Speaker 2: get burned, things like that. I understand the argument that

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Speaker 2: it is an act, not speech. Many speech and acts

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Speaker 2: are connected, and I would suggest this is one of them.

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Speaker 2: Probably some of your weigh in, we'll take that tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging with us. Monday edition