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Speaker 1: Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I

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Speaker 1: hope all of you had fabulous weekends. Exhilarating day at

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Speaker 1: the Masters. I bet a lot of you watched Ry

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Speaker 1: McElroy with the big win markets up a bit. As

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Speaker 1: the Trump tariff discussion continues in earnest, particularly as it

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Speaker 1: pertains to China, we have got a ton to discuss

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Speaker 1: with all of you from a variety of different perspectives.

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Speaker 1: But right off the top, I know many of you

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Speaker 1: have been really concerned about this, wanting the absolute latest.

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Speaker 1: It didn't happen while we were on the air, but

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Speaker 1: on Friday evening Buck and Carrie Sexton became parents. Their

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Speaker 1: baby boy James arrived. Mom and baby are doing well.

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Speaker 1: Buck says right now he expects to be back on

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Speaker 1: tomorrow so we can hear how the delivery went down

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Speaker 1: in Miami. But the pictures are up. I know we

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Speaker 1: have shared them from the Clay Buck's social account. I

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Speaker 1: know that Buck has shared them from his social accounts.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine that there are pictures for those of

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Speaker 1: you who want to go and look certainly at those

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Speaker 1: social accounts, but also I imagine that there are pictures

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Speaker 1: up on clayanbuck dot com, and if there are not,

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Speaker 1: we should definitely make sure that we post them there

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Speaker 1: for people who are not active on social media at all.

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Speaker 1: But that is fabulous news, and I know many of

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Speaker 1: you have been following that closely. You've been asking about it,

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Speaker 1: and I was hoping we were going to be able

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Speaker 1: to announce it before we went off the air on Friday.

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Speaker 1: But come Friday evening, the official news that James speed

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Speaker 1: Sexton had entered the world came down. And We're going

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Speaker 1: to have a lot of fun talking with Buck about

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Speaker 1: what it's like to have become a dad, and I

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Speaker 1: know he is exhilarated and is going to be headed

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Speaker 1: for many sleepless nights in the near future as any

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Speaker 1: dad and mom have experienced, and many of you out

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Speaker 1: there certainly have experienced in your life. So it's super exciting.

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Speaker 1: So for those of you that have been concerned about that,

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Speaker 1: really great news to start off our Monday that the

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Speaker 1: So you can find pictures up on Bucks account, up

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Speaker 1: on the Clay and Buck accounts, and soon if not

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Speaker 1: already up at clayanbuck dot com. For those of you

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Speaker 1: are we in the universe? That is awesome news. And

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Speaker 1: like I said, I think Buck's going to be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if that remains the case. It was out

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Speaker 1: Thursday Friday. We'll be back, I think on Tuesday with

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Speaker 1: a brand new baby. Okay, So let's dive into a

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Speaker 1: bunch of different stories that are underway right now. I

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Speaker 1: will play that for you. Coming up. Pennsylvania Governor, this

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Speaker 1: is an awful story. Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro had someone

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Speaker 1: They have arrested the suspect, and his motivations remain unclear,

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Speaker 1: We will talk some about that. Bill Maher made a

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Speaker 1: I did Fox and Friends weekend a lot of you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate all the favorable feedback I did. In addition

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Speaker 1: Clooney's play about Edward R. Murrow and the idea being

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Speaker 1: a cold blooded killer is now a hero to some,

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Speaker 1: including CNN, which aired this interview as part of their

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Speaker 5: To see these millionaire media pundits on TV clutching their

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Speaker 5: pearls about someone standing a murderer when this is the

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Speaker 5: United States of America. As if we don't lionize criminals,

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Speaker 5: as if we don't have you know, we don't stan

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Speaker 5: murderers of all sorts, and we give them Netflix shows.

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Speaker 5: There's a huge disconnect between the narratives and angles the

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Speaker 5: mainstream media pushes and what the American public feels. And

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Speaker 5: you see that in moments like this. So you're going

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Speaker 5: to see women, especially that feel like, oh my god, right,

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Speaker 5: like here's this man who who's the revolutionary, who's famous,

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Speaker 5: who's handsome, who's young, who's smart? He's a person that

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Speaker 5: seems as like this morally good man, which is hard

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Speaker 5: to find.

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Speaker 2: A morally good man, which is hard to find.

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Speaker 1: On CNN, he killed an innocent dad and husband in

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Speaker 1: cold blood on a street in New York City. Team,

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Speaker 1: can you grab that little cut at the end and

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Speaker 1: save that because I want to play it again.

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Speaker 2: This is what happens.

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Speaker 1: When you lose the ability to distinguish between good and evil.

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Speaker 1: This is something big picture that troubles me tremendously in

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Speaker 1: the country right now. When you lose the ability to

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Speaker 1: distinguish between good and evil, you're a country that it

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Speaker 1: is incredible danger. And I'm not talking about good or

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Speaker 1: evil as Hey, what should the top tax rate be

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Speaker 1: in America? Should it be thirty nine point six percent

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Speaker 1: or twenty six point eight percent. That's not a good

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Speaker 1: or evil argument. Tariff rates is not a good or

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Speaker 1: evil argument. The guy who committed cold blood on the

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Speaker 1: street is morally a good person. No, I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 1: think that's a real flaw. But that's how you get

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Speaker 1: to Butler, Pennsylvania and West Palm Beach assassination attempts of Trump,

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Speaker 1: and that's how you get to fire bombing the governor's

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Speaker 1: mansion in Pennsylvania. We have lost as a society the

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Speaker 1: ability to distinguish between good and evil, and we've lost

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Speaker 1: the ability to contextualize. That's how this ties in, I

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Speaker 1: think as well, the play, the George Clooney play that

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Speaker 1: I saw demonizing Elon Musk, Suddenly because you don't like

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Speaker 1: his politics, Oh he's a hero of the left, when

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Speaker 1: he creates electric vehicles, Oh he wants to help Trump

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Speaker 1: get elected, Suddenly he's a Nazi. That's not accurate either,

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Speaker 1: But if you brand somebody as a Nazi, you create

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Speaker 1: a situation where people think they're gonna be heroes if

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Speaker 1: they kill them. It's an inability to distinguish between good

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Speaker 1: and evil, and it's putting many people out there, good people,

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Speaker 1: honest people all over the country in a perilous situation

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Speaker 1: that they shouldn't be in. And it comes from I believe,

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Speaker 1: and I see it directly connected to October seventh. Young

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Speaker 1: people in this country, I think, for many reasons, have

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Speaker 1: lost the ability to distinguish between good and evil, and

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Speaker 1: CNN airing that good man's hard to find, and he

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Speaker 1: seems morally pretty good. No, I actually think there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys who wouldn't stand outside on the street

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Speaker 1: I think that there's probably a lot of guys out

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us as we are rolling

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Speaker 1: through the Monday edition of the program. Wanted to give

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Speaker 1: credit to Bill Maher for being willing to go actually

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Speaker 1: meet with President Trump in person. He had a dinner

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Speaker 1: with Kid Rock at the in the White House after

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Speaker 1: I believe they went into the Oval Office as well.

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Speaker 1: And I want to play some of the cuts. This

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Speaker 1: Bill Maher is saying here is what many of you

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Speaker 1: have found in your experience is either listening to Trump

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Speaker 1: on this program or other programs over the last decade.

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Speaker 1: I believe the number is that I have been involved

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Speaker 1: in interviewing Trump, either by myself or with Buck Now

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Speaker 1: eleven times, and so I feel like I know Trump

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Speaker 1: fairly well at this point. We've talked to him for

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Speaker 1: hours on this program during the course of the last

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Speaker 1: four years. And what Bill Maher is saying is what

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Speaker 1: I have found to be true of Trump in private.

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Speaker 1: He's an incredibly likable, charismatic guy who frankly feels kind

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Speaker 1: of like a grandpa when I have been around him.

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Speaker 1: And let's listen to a couple of these cuts. He

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Speaker 1: also has, and I think this is important, a pretty

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Speaker 1: good sense of humor. He's actually very, very funny, and

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Speaker 1: most of his critics don't get it. Here's Bill Maher

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Speaker 1: saying he showed up with a list of insults that

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Speaker 1: Trump had called him, and Trump autographed it for him,

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Speaker 1: which is incredible.

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Speaker 2: Listened to cut fifteen before I left for the Capitol.

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Speaker 6: I had my staff collect and print out this list

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Speaker 6: of almost sixteen different insulting epithets that the President has

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Speaker 6: said about me things like stupid, dummy, lowlife, dummy, sleeves,

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Speaker 6: bag sick said, stone cold crazy, really a dumb guy,

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Speaker 6: fired like a dog.

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Speaker 2: His show is dead. It's sixty.

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Speaker 6: I brought this to the White House because I wanted

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Speaker 6: him to sign.

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Speaker 2: It, which he did, which he did with good humor.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I mean this is how it should be.

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Speaker 1: I talked about the Taylor Lorenz. Oh he's a morally

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Speaker 1: good man. That's not how it should be. How it

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Speaker 1: should be is people can disagree, sometimes they might even

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Speaker 1: say mean things, but when they meet face to face,

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Speaker 1: they behave like adults. And most of the time I

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Speaker 1: have found when you meet someone face to face, you

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Speaker 1: are more likely to like them, particularly when it's someone

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Speaker 1: like Donald Trump that is actually very likable. We've said

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Speaker 1: on this program for a long time. Look, you can

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Speaker 1: disagree with his policies. I am one hundred percent of

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Speaker 1: the opinion that you can look at Trump's policies and

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Speaker 1: you can say I hate the terrify ideas. You can say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I think we should have free and wide open borders.

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Speaker 1: You can say police are too empowered, or he's taking

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Speaker 1: too much executive authority. I don't agree with those arguments,

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Speaker 1: but I think you can make those arguments and be

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Speaker 1: a rational, normal human being. What you can't say is

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Speaker 1: he's Hitler. He's not in any way remotely similar to

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Speaker 1: Adolf Hitler. Disagree with his policies, attacking him personally is absurd.

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Speaker 1: And what I have said for some time is, and

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Speaker 1: I bet what Bill Maher now recognizes, Trump is an

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Speaker 1: energy person. Whatever energy you give to him, he gives

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Speaker 1: back to you ten x. So if you are favorable

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Speaker 1: and kind, he's going to be ten times as favorable

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Speaker 1: and ten times as kind to you. If you are unfavorable, uncharitable, cruel, mean,

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Speaker 1: he's going to give that back to you ten x.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you give Trump gives back ten x. That's the

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Speaker 1: lesson that everybody should have learned by now. And actually,

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Speaker 1: face to face, he tends to be really good. I've

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Speaker 1: said this before. I met Trump for the first time

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Speaker 1: in person in October of twenty twenty. I took my

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Speaker 1: wife and at the time oldest son, who was I.

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Speaker 2: Believe in seventh grade. Trump was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: With him, unbelievable with my seventh grader in the Oval office.

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Speaker 2: The time he spent.

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Speaker 1: With him, he was just a fabulous, grandfatherly like figure.

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Speaker 1: My wife, like a lot of women, was not a

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Speaker 1: huge fan of Donald Trump before she met him. After

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Speaker 1: meeting him in the Oval office, since she's met him

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Speaker 1: a couple of times since she loves him. He is

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Speaker 1: really incredible face to face, one on one, not only

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Speaker 1: with the people there, but with kids. Really really good

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Speaker 1: with kids. He's met all of my sons, by the way,

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Speaker 1: they were more interested in meeting mister Beast than the President.

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Speaker 1: No offense to the President, but he's met all of

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Speaker 1: my kids. Fabulous with all of them, just like a

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Speaker 1: good grandpa would be. And I bet if you had

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Speaker 1: the good fortune to get to meet the president and

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Speaker 1: you got to meet him with your kids or with

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Speaker 1: your grandkids, he would be phenomenal with them.

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Speaker 2: And this is what Bill maher is saying.

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Speaker 1: Bill maher like kind of built this mountain of Trump

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Speaker 1: as an awful person based on public persona, and then

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Speaker 1: he had to go out and tell his audience on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Actually we had a phenomenal dinner and Trump was incredible.

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Speaker 1: Here is Bill maher on meeting Trump cut sixteen. He

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Speaker 2: For starters, he laughs.

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Speaker 6: I've never seen him laugh in public. But he does

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Speaker 6: including it himself, and it's not fake. Believe me, as

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Speaker 6: a comedian of forty years, I know a fake laugh

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Speaker 6: when I hear it. Okay, example, in the Oval office,

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Speaker 6: he was showing me the core for it's the president's

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Speaker 6: and he pointed to Reagan and said, in all seriousness,

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Speaker 6: you know the best thing about him his hair. I said, well,

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Speaker 6: there was also that whole bringing down communism thing. Waiting

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Speaker 6: get pushed and I go through the trap door.

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Speaker 2: But no, he laughed. He got it.

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Speaker 1: He has a really good sense of humor. He's also

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Speaker 1: insanely self aware. Some of you may have seen me

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Speaker 1: on Fox and Friends over the weekend. I'll take feedback,

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Speaker 1: by the way, eight hundred two two eight a two.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what my mom said in a moment.

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Speaker 1: But I said this because we were playing some of

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Speaker 1: the cuts from the moment. Jimmy Fallon allowed himself to

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Speaker 1: get bullied for humanizing Trump. Every comedian by and large

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Speaker 1: was terrified of the general public, and they refused to

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Speaker 1: treat Trump like a normal human being. It's actually incredibly

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Speaker 1: unfortunate because if you go back and watch Trump on

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Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live. He has a great sense of humor.

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Speaker 1: I think Trump would have been really good on Jimmy Kimmel.

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Speaker 1: I think he would have been really good with Fallin.

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Speaker 1: I think he would have been really good with Stephen

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Speaker 1: Colbert and on Saturday Night Live, because unlike a lot

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Speaker 1: of politicians, he actually has a good sense of humor

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Speaker 1: about himself. And I have made this argument for a

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Speaker 1: long time on the dictator front. Dictators don't have good

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Speaker 1: senses of humor because humor requires a knowledge and nuance

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Speaker 1: of how you are seen in the world that is

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Speaker 1: at large. And that's why dictators require complete obsequiousness. They

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Speaker 1: require that you basically been the need to them all

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Speaker 1: the time, that you genuflect at their photo that's hanging

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Speaker 1: be seen as larger than you, more important than you,

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Speaker 1: and comedy cuts everybody down to size. This is why

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Speaker 1: having kids important in many ways. I think kids tell

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Speaker 1: you exactly what they think. Kids and old people, super

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Speaker 1: old people they are like, I don't give a heck anymore.

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Speaker 1: Super young kids they don't have the filters built in

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Speaker 2: We were playing. He said, Dad, he said, yeah, said,

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Speaker 1: I never thought about my hands in my entire life.

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Speaker 1: Holding them up now for you on video, I was like,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean. He's like, they're wrinkly, they're like

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Speaker 1: old man hands. And I was like, I've never even

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Speaker 1: thought about what my hands look like before. I didn't

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Speaker 1: think I was George Costanza hand model. But my three

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Speaker 1: year old is like, you know, like, hey, Dad, you

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Speaker 1: know you're not a super young guy anymore. You got

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Speaker 1: old guy hands. And it's that puncturing, right, And I'll

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Speaker 1: play you a cut and a little bit of Trump

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Speaker 1: on Air Force one after he was at the UFC

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Speaker 1: three fourteen with Kai Trump, his granddaughter. The grandkids make

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Speaker 1: fun of him. That's healthy. Yeah, he's the president of

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Speaker 1: the United States, but he's also grandpa and grandma and

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Speaker 1: he and Milania, and so they have normal human interactions.

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Speaker 1: I don't imagine that Kim Jong un has very many

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Speaker 1: normal interactions. I frankly don't imagine that Vladimir Putin has

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Speaker 1: very many normal human interactions. Maybe I'm wrong, but this

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Speaker 1: is what Bill Maher was getting at here. Also, he

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Speaker 1: says Trump was gracious and measured, and his audience is

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Speaker 1: hearing what is the truth. But much like when I

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Speaker 1: was talking about earlier with George Clooney and the play,

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Speaker 1: they aren't able to see the larger perspective because many

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Speaker 1: of them have bought into the idea that he's Hitler.

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Speaker 1: Listen to cut fourteen.

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Speaker 6: He said, you know, I've heard from a lot of

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Speaker 6: people who really liked that we're having this dinner.

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Speaker 2: Not all, but a lot.

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Speaker 6: And I said same. A lot of people told me

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Speaker 6: they loved it, but not all, and we agreed. The

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Speaker 6: people who don't even want.

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Speaker 7: Us to talk, we don't like you don't talk as

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Speaker 7: opposed to what writing the same editorial for the millionth

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Speaker 7: time and making twenty five hour speeches into the wind.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's my report. You can hate me for it,

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Speaker 6: but I'm not a liar. Trump was gracious and measured,

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Speaker 6: and why he isn't that in other settings I don't know,

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Speaker 6: and I can't answer, and it's not my place to answer.

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Speaker 6: I'm just telling you what I saw and I wasn't high.

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Speaker 1: It's great and that audience. Again, I encourage as many

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Speaker 1: of these out outreaches as Trump can do. I think

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Speaker 1: if you meet him face to face, the caricature that

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Speaker 1: you have built in your mind on the left is

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Speaker 1: not represented by the man that you will meet. I

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Speaker 1: guarantee you that. And we have a tendency in this world,

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Speaker 1: and I try to be conscious of it in the

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Speaker 1: way that I talk to to build twenty foot tall

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Speaker 1: caricatures of people that are just a few inches deep.

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Speaker 1: In other words, when you walk up to it, it's

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Speaker 1: like you can punch through it and it's paper mache.

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Speaker 1: It looks like this huge statue. Oh my goodness, look

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Speaker 1: at this. This is twenty feet tall. You can't miss it.

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Speaker 1: And then when you're actually confronted with it, you realize

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Speaker 1: there's no depth to it. You can punch right through

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Speaker 1: it and you see the real person on the other side. Now,

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Speaker 1: some people are fake. Many politicians, I would say, are

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Speaker 1: fake because they're desperate to make you like them.

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Speaker 2: They feel like.

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Speaker 1: If they pretend to be something that you will like them.

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Speaker 1: Trump is not that. It's why he wasn't a professional politician.

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Speaker 1: He is just himself, for better or worse. And I

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Speaker 1: think the reason why he had so much more support

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Speaker 1: by twenty twenty four is a lot of people saw

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Speaker 1: what Bill Maher did, which is that twenty foot caricature

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Speaker 1: that the legacy media were telling you that he's Adolf Hitler,

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Speaker 1: that he's got the Hitler mustache, that he's gonna it's

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Speaker 1: not real. It wasn't in any way accurate. And meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: the twenty foot caricature that they tried to create of

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, which was incredibly beneficial, when you got up

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Speaker 1: close to it, you saw that that was all fake.

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Speaker 1: Two And I've said in my new book that I'm writing,

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Speaker 1: I think this gets to the essence of it. Authenticity

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Speaker 1: ends cancel culture. When you are the authentic version of yourself,

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Speaker 1: for better or worse, you can't be canceled in public

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Speaker 1: anymore because people are over it now. If you lie,

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Speaker 1: if you are fake, if you are not honest with

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Speaker 1: you an example that just as historic. Why did Bill

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Speaker 1: an intern in the Oval office? Bill Clinton slept with

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Speaker 1: an intern. Now you can say, okay, well that was

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six, nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 2: It's a different era, and I think that's true.

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Speaker 1: But the reason why I think he kept his job

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Speaker 1: You didn't really think, oh, this is a guy who's

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Speaker 1: completely committed to his wife. You didn't think Bill and

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Speaker 2: You kind of thought.

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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton not really that much into Hillary Clinton's probably

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Speaker 1: going to sleep with somebody else while he's president. I

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Speaker 1: think if George W. Bush had done it might have cost.

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Speaker 2: Him his job. I think if Barack Obama had.

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Speaker 1: Done, it might have cost him his job. But Bill Clinton,

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Speaker 1: it actually reflected in some way what we anticipated and

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Speaker 1: believed about him. I think Clinton was authentically himself. I

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Speaker 1: think Al Gore, who tried to replace him, wasn't. I

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Speaker 1: think George W.

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Speaker 2: Bush was. Trump is what you would.

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Speaker 1: Think he is if you are honest and have been

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Speaker 1: seeing all of the coverage surrounding him. I think what

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Speaker 1: Bill Maher experienced, it's what I've experienced, it's what Buck experienced,

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Speaker 1: It's what most of you would experience. If you had

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to meet Trump, and if you took your

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Speaker 1: kids or grandkids to meet Trump too, I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: you would really like him.

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Speaker 2: And he would be fabulous with you.

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Speaker 1: I believe is one reason that he's been so successful

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Speaker 1: as a politician. He's actually just kind of a likable guy.

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Speaker 1: And if you remember before he got into politics, that

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Speaker 1: was his reputation. A little bit of a bragger, a

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Speaker 1: little bit in love with himself. Yeah, you can say

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Speaker 1: that about Trump. I was just playing one of the

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Speaker 1: West Palm Beach and he had framed that he was

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Speaker 1: one of the richest people in the world in the

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Speaker 1: locker room, all the different paintings and pictures hanging on

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Speaker 1: wouldn't frame the magazine cover that called them one of

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Speaker 1: in their locker room. But that's Trump, and I think

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Speaker 1: the reason why he's having so much more success in

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Speaker 2: Two guys walk.

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Speaker 3: Up to a mic he anything goes Clay Travis and

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Speaker 3: Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or

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Speaker 1: Welcome in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everybody hanging out with us. Off the top again.

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Speaker 1: Biggest news over the weekend for the Clay and Buck Show.

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Speaker 1: Buck and Carrie gave birth. I guess Carrie gave birth.

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Speaker 1: Buck was there to James. They are happy and healthy.

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Speaker 1: Mom and son are doing well. Buck right now says

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Speaker 1: he expects to be back on the program tomorrow, So

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Speaker 1: we will be back together and Buck will be a

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Speaker 1: new dad doing his first ever radio show as a parent.

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Speaker 1: We will see how massively had has changed him, if

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Speaker 1: at all. But in all seriousness, it is an all

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Speaker 1: awesome feeling. You guys have been fabulous online. I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of you asking questions. I was seeing it

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Speaker 1: on social media. The baby came in Friday evening after

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Speaker 1: we were off the air. Pictures are up at clayanbuck

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Speaker 1: dot com. You can go to bucks Twitter and Instagram

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Speaker 1: feeds and see a picture of mom and baby as well.

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Speaker 1: Everything going fantastically well. Look forward to hearing more details

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Speaker 1: about that from him tomorrow or if he's not able

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Speaker 1: to come in tomorrow whenever he's able to return to

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Speaker 1: the air, but just fabulous all around, very exciting. And

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Speaker 1: for any of you out there that recall or remember

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Speaker 1: or maybe even our planning soon to become parents, you

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Speaker 1: know what a transformative life experience that is. And as

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Speaker 1: I said on Wednesday, I think was Buck's last day

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Speaker 1: before he left, it is hard to hold a baby

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Speaker 1: in your arms and not be optimistic about the future.

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Speaker 2: Really is.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's true whether you're a dad or

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Speaker 1: a mom, or a grandma or grandpa or aunt, uncle, cousin,

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Speaker 1: whatever you are. Babies are incredible gifts of joy, lots

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Speaker 1: of work, and I'm sure Buck and Carry are going

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Speaker 1: to be learning that out. I tried to tell him

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Speaker 1: because people out there, you just really can't tell anybody

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Speaker 1: what it's like till you actually have.

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Speaker 2: A baby of your own.

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Speaker 1: But people say, oh, you know, we got a dog,

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Speaker 1: and you know that's we're training for being parents one day.

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Speaker 2: Like okay, not really the same at all.

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Speaker 1: And once you have a child, you are going to

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Speaker 1: understand that there is nothing you can do to prepare

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Speaker 1: for being a parent except be a parent yourself.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm excited for them.

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Speaker 1: I know it's going to be awesome, and he is

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Speaker 1: thankful for all of the fabulous responses that you guys

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Speaker 1: have already given, all the tremendous congratulations, and so we

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Speaker 1: will hopefully be talking about that in more detail soon.

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Speaker 1: to the podcast, make sure you don't miss a moment.

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Speaker 1: You can find me, Clay Travis, you can find Buck Sexton,

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Speaker 1: you can find a lot of people in our podcast

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Speaker 1: and network, millions of you downloading the podcast every single month.

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Speaker 1: We thank all of you for listening there as well

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Speaker 1: as on the five hundred and fifty some odd stations

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Speaker 1: across the nation.

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Speaker 2: But in the first couple of hours, we.

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Speaker 1: Talked about George Clooney and his new play suggesting that

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk gave a Nazi salute, which did not happen.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro's house, the attempt

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Speaker 1: to burn it down, and how to me, it's symptomatic

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Speaker 1: of a larger failure to distinguish between good and evil

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Speaker 1: in this country. Today, we just played a lot of

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Speaker 1: cuts for you of Bill Maher talking about his visit

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Speaker 2: ESPN. Stephen A.

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Speaker 1: Smith went around and did a lot of interviews now

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Speaker 1: saying that he is thinking about running for president of

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Speaker 1: the United States in twenty twenty eight. I told all

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Speaker 1: of you that Trump was going to create a lot

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Speaker 1: and they were going to try to be the next Trump. Democrats,

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Speaker 1: because so many of their old leaders have said absolutely

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Speaker 1: insane things. And Kamala Harris, while getting raked over the

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Speaker 1: coals for the absurdity of her position to give transgender

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Speaker 1: with taxpayer money, she thought that should happen. That's not

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Speaker 1: out of line for Democrats, that's not outrageous. They have

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Speaker 1: said every seated elected Democrat right now, truly ridiculous things,

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Speaker 1: absolutely ignorant, indefensible things like men should be able to

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Speaker 1: win women's championships, which virtually every Democrat somehow has lined

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Speaker 1: lined up and said all sorts of crazy things. So

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Speaker 1: I don't think that Stephen A. Smith is particularly well

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Speaker 1: versed in the political universe. But I do believe that

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Speaker 1: But here is Stephen A. Smith out on. Let me

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Speaker 1: make sure where I get where this took place, because

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Speaker 1: Here says he has no choice but to contemplate a

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Speaker 1: putting his foot forward. Let's listen to what he had

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Speaker 1: to say. This is on ABC's This Week with John

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Speaker 1: carl This is what you're about to listen cut twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Are you really thinking about running for president? Is this

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Speaker 2: something you think? Listen?

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Speaker 8: I have no choice because I've had elected officials and

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Speaker 8: I'm not going to give them names, elected officials coming

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Speaker 8: up to me. I've had folks who are pundits come

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Speaker 8: up to me. I've had folks that got a lot

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Speaker 8: of money, billionaires and others that have talked to me

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Speaker 8: about exploratory committees and things of that nature. I'm not

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Speaker 8: I just signed a contract extension with ESPN. I couldn't

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Speaker 8: be happier. But here's the reality. People will have walked

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Speaker 8: up to me, including my own pastor, for crying O loud,

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Speaker 8: who has said to me, you don't know what God

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Speaker 8: has planned for you. At least showed a respect to

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Speaker 8: the people who believe in you, who respect you, who

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Speaker 8: believe that you can make a difference in this country,

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Speaker 8: to leave the door open any possibilities through the three

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Speaker 8: years down the line, and that's what I've decided to do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that is Steven A.

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Speaker 1: Smith backcast pointed out, And I do think there's some

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Speaker 1: truth to it. Who has run for president of the

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Speaker 1: United States and actually ended up in a worse position

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Speaker 1: than they were before. It's an interesting question. Obviously you

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Speaker 1: can lose, but is Kamala Harris, for instance, who just

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Speaker 1: lost as president to Donald Trump, Is she really in

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Speaker 1: that much of a worse position than if Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: had run and they had lost.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you could say, oh, she could.

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Speaker 1: Be the nominee in twenty twenty eight if Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: had lost. Maybe, But by and large, most people who

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Speaker 1: run for president of the United States end up making

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Speaker 1: more money and having more influence than they would if

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Speaker 1: they had never run at all. And if your side wins,

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to do something that is fairly substantial, even

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Speaker 1: if you're not elected president of the United States. Now,

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Speaker 1: most people do not pull a Stephen A. Smith and

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Speaker 1: walk away from a twenty million dollar a year salary

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Speaker 1: why I don't think he's gonna do it. I don't

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Speaker 1: it's not independently wealthy. To be fair, running for President

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Speaker 1: of the United States costs Trump money, but it wasn't

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Speaker 1: a direct salary like a Steven A.

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Speaker 2: Smith has.

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Speaker 1: Most really wealthy guys or gals who run for president

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Speaker 1: and they're still making a lot of money even if

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Speaker 1: It's not labor money. I'm a labor guy. I work

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Speaker 1: to get paid. Most of you work to get paid.

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Speaker 1: Most of you don't have tremendous amounts of mailbox money

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Speaker 1: where you could stop work and your income wouldn't change

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Speaker 1: that much. That's why I'm a little bit skeptical. I do, however,

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Speaker 1: think that Stephen A. Smith is emblematic of a cadre

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Speaker 1: of candidates that are likely to arise on the Democrat

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Speaker 1: has gone so insane that anyone elected to a statewide office,

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Speaker 1: on a national level. And Eve that's even true for governors,

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Speaker 1: which is why I think they're going to have to

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Speaker 2: And I do think that Stephen A.

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Speaker 1: Smith would do better with male voters because he has

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Speaker 1: the sports bonafide in the background. The challenge for Stephen A.

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Speaker 1: Smith is I don't think he's actually that knowledgeable about

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Speaker 1: anything outside of sports. And I don't mean that is

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Speaker 1: he going to get up on the stage and when

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Speaker 1: he's asked a question about trade policy, turn it into

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Speaker 1: a conversation about whether Jordan or Lebron are better. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take a shot at him, because

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Speaker 1: he's a very talented when it comes to talking about sports,

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Speaker 1: but he's never done a show that is about, to

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Speaker 1: a large extent, something other than talking about sports. I

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Speaker 1: think you could have asked the same question for me

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Speaker 1: before I started doing this show four years ago, and

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Speaker 1: this show is a lot less significant significant, but it's

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Speaker 1: a lot less significant than running for president of the

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Speaker 1: United States.

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Speaker 2: But I think over time.

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Speaker 1: You've said you've been able to say, Okay, Clay has

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Speaker 1: a strong position on what's going to happen at the Masters.

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Speaker 1: Congratulates congratulations to Rory mclruy. But also there's a coherent

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Speaker 1: political philosophy behind a lot of his arguments. I also

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Speaker 2: Stephen A.

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Speaker 1: Smith, I don't buy that he would be able to

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Speaker 1: be the nominee. But I actually think not having political

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Speaker 1: background is going to be an asset because it allows

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Speaker 1: you to change positions publicly without having to be a

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Speaker 1: total hypocrite, like Gavin Newsom when he tried to finally say,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's completely unfair for men to compete in

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Speaker 1: women's sports. But the problem is he had said the

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Speaker 1: opposite for some time before. There is an advantage to

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Speaker 1: having a blank slate sometimes when it comes to political positions,

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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you Trump took advantage of this. The

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Speaker 1: first time that I thought to myself, Hey, you know what,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is an intriguing candidate was not when he

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Speaker 1: came down the escalator at Trump Tower. To me, it

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Speaker 1: was when remember that first debate with Megan Kelly, when

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Speaker 1: everybody watched it on Fox News, and Trump was so

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Speaker 1: commanding of that debate stage. Was actually the part that

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Speaker 1: made me say, oh, this is a new kind of

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Speaker 1: guy was when he criticized the Republican decision to go

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Speaker 1: to war in Iraq, because prior to him saying it

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Speaker 1: in the summer of twenty fifteen, nobody would say it.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why Trump said it was what he

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Speaker 1: was right. We should have never I don't know if

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Speaker 1: anybody will even defend it now. We should have never

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Speaker 1: spent trillions of dollars going to war in Iraq, just

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Speaker 1: like we shouldn't have shut down schools for COVID. The

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Speaker 1: decision to go to war in Iraq and spend trillions

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Speaker 1: of dollars to get rid of Saddam Hussein was a disaster.

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Speaker 1: George W. Bush was wrong, Dick Cheney was wrong. I

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Speaker 1: think most Republicans now believe that even if you supported

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Speaker 1: it fifteen or twenty years ago, it was a poor decision.

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Speaker 1: Trump was the first person to point that out. It's

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Speaker 1: the first time I said, oh, this is a different

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Speaker 1: kind of Republican candidate. It's the first time it really

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Speaker 1: got my attention. A Democrat would have the ability to

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Speaker 1: turn his or her back on orthodoxy. If that Democrat

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Speaker 1: were not a longtime political candidate and didn't have a

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Speaker 1: huge record that everybody could pick apart in the past.

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Speaker 1: The attack is they don't have enough experience. But a

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Speaker 1: lot of people out there saying is the experience our

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Speaker 1: politicians have actually that valuable? If you've got experience making

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Speaker 1: really bad decisions for decades, does that mean you deserve

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Speaker 1: a promotion. For Joe Biden, that was the argument, got

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Speaker 1: everything wrong for years, gets promoted. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: it's going to work for a traditional politician to get

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Speaker 1: the nomination in twenty twenty eight. And that's where I

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Speaker 1: think stephen A may have a little bit of an argument.

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Speaker 1: But I think there are other people out there who

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Speaker 1: have better experience in business or media that might be

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Speaker 1: running as Democrats against stephen A. United States Concealed Carry Association,

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Speaker 1: that's the USCCA over eight hundred and sixty thousand responsible

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Speaker 1: gun owners as members across the country. I want to

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Speaker 1: talk for just a second about how challenging this can be.

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Speaker 1: If you have guns in your house, if you have

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Speaker 1: a concealed carry permit, and you're driving around, what if

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Speaker 1: somebody comes after you and you feel compelled to defend yourself.

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Speaker 1: I've been as a lawyer in all day seminars analyzing

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Speaker 1: the decisions that gun owners might have to make in

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Speaker 1: a fraction of seconds. And suddenly if you are getting

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Speaker 1: charged because you were trying to defend yourself, do you

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Speaker 1: know how much it could cost to try to go

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Speaker 1: get the right lawyer. Hundreds of dollars an hour, maybe

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Speaker 1: thousands of dollars might cost you fifty one hundred, one

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