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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Greetings and welcome inside the Dan Patrick Show

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Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio. Yes, Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins

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Speaker 1: in for Dan and the dan X today. Ryan Hollands

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Speaker 1: very very special appearance with us this morning because he

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Speaker 1: has taken time out from his very busy schedule of

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Speaker 1: standing on a street corner with a sandwich board on

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Speaker 1: yelling Johnny Juzang is coming back. We're going to the

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Speaker 1: Final four again. We're going to the Final four. He's

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Speaker 1: been standing on the corner of Sepulva Adventura for the

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Speaker 1: past thirty five minutes just yelling at a passers by

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Speaker 1: and also trying to give out autographs side Ryan Hollins UCLA.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Hollins, Dude, congratulations man. I know you're very excited

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Speaker 1: about this, No, I am um is like bittersweet, though

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Speaker 1: I wanted to see Johnny be a pro. You know,

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Speaker 1: apparently maybe he didn't get the feedback that he'd like

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Speaker 1: to have gotten during tests in the water, but I

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Speaker 1: think this was an amazing and imagining a talk about

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Speaker 1: a blistering year through COVID for Johnny Jusing. He transfers

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Speaker 1: from Kentucky, where things don't work out. He gets to UCLA,

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Speaker 1: sits out a part of the season, and then leads

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Speaker 1: a playing team into the Final four and then just

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Speaker 1: puts his name in the drest. So there's literally been

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Speaker 1: non stop at Johnny jus An. So I don't you

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Speaker 1: know what he probably just said. You know, let me

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Speaker 1: come back one year and see what I can do

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Speaker 1: with the year under my belt, how I can improve

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Speaker 1: and what can happen. But Mike, you talk about a story, dude.

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Speaker 1: First of all, everybody coming back next year. I mean

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be everybody's pick to get to the final four.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be Oh, Ucla Gonzaga again are gonna be

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Speaker 1: everybody's picked. They have everybody coming back to McDonald's, all

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Speaker 1: American coming in. They start that four guard offense that

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Speaker 1: makes it really difficult to defend, especially when you get

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Speaker 1: to the tournament and teams haven't seen that they Dude,

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Speaker 1: I would I would be doing what you were doing.

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Speaker 1: I'd be standing on the street corner yelling Final four too. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm yelling championship. I mean this is I mean, seriously,

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Speaker 1: this team just needed a bitted depth. Maybe one rest

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Speaker 1: you know, came a charge call away or literally a

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Speaker 1: hea from half court away from having a chance to advance.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I covered the Bruins in college basketball

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Speaker 1: all season long, So I mean, this is this is exciting.

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Speaker 1: But you know how rare is this, Jason, to see

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Speaker 1: where guys actually come back to school. Right, well, let

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Speaker 1: me let me throw this at you because because this

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Speaker 1: is a curveball for you here now, because here you

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Speaker 1: have the first guy who says I'm coming back with

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Speaker 1: all the name image likeness going on the past few days.

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Speaker 1: Now the college kids can make money off their name,

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Speaker 1: image and likeness. And look, deer Kin quarterback from Miami,

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Speaker 1: I think has already made like three hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: He's on like everything. How much of this is Jews

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Speaker 1: and going okay, well, I'm kind of if he in

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Speaker 1: the pros if I come back, Hey I'm in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: I could I could really do some things. I could

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Speaker 1: and hey, all right, I'll come back for one more

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Speaker 1: year because I'll make a decent amount of money. You know,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not drafted high enough. My rookie contract's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be guaranteed, So I'm gonna come back here and

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Speaker 1: next year. And maybe Jusang's the first of a few

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Speaker 1: guys who decide to do that, because you know, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of iffy. There's no big deal for me

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Speaker 1: more year, right, like, I'll either improve my draft stock

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Speaker 1: year of college basketball, then I can go to the pros. Jason,

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Speaker 1: you couldn't be anymore right with this? You like that?

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Speaker 1: Huh nah? No, seriously, you couldn't be because jus An

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Speaker 1: being the man in LA it's like, okay, well you

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Speaker 1: Johnny Jusang is number three on that list. So I'm absolutely,

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Speaker 1: in college and be the man, hey, and be the man. Okay, Now,

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Speaker 1: how how jealous are you about? Or now I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: say jelly, I should say how do you feel that?

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Speaker 1: That's what we call a leading question. How do you

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Speaker 1: feel about now that here's athletes who can make this name,

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Speaker 1: you walked away with a lot of sweet gear. Don't

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Speaker 1: get me wrong. You wear different UCLA gear every single day.

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Speaker 1: They know all the teams you played for in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: It's like today's gonna be Oh what do I wear?

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Speaker 1: Today's my clippers day, Today's this day. How do you

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Speaker 1: feel now are you? Are you all the way happy

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Speaker 1: for the players? Is there a little bit of jealousy?

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Speaker 1: Or is it doll and Hey they can make what

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Speaker 1: I would love to take my back pay. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: pay jealous of No, not a I am excited, I

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Speaker 1: am thrilled. But yeah, man, when you really realize the

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Speaker 1: money that was scrolling around you, or that you know,

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Speaker 1: my coach was making a couple okay, my coach was

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Speaker 1: making a couple million dollars, okay to coach, But you know,

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Speaker 1: we had to play for the love of the game.

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Speaker 1: He didn't coach for the love of the game. But

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Speaker 1: love of athletics, for student athletes, the love of basketball. Nah,

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Speaker 1: they did it for the money. Okay, and we made

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Speaker 1: I'm instarted for these young men. I think Morris to

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Speaker 1: so these kids should be seeing it, you know, some

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Speaker 1: it's you know, the licensing should be split up or

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Speaker 1: you should be compensated. Ryan. Look, I'm glad you're here.

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Speaker 1: What did you want to talk about today? Coach? You're

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Speaker 1: I have a track suit for you that is brand

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Speaker 1: new Adidas. You're gonna love it. It's kind of got

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Speaker 1: a kind of So why don't you take this right here?

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll see you're practicing about an hour. All right, here,

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Speaker 1: And who's upset about not getting money? Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: Which you know, you know, Jay, in all seriousness, though,

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Speaker 1: But here's where I'm going to be an NBA head coach,

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Speaker 1: Big doggy ready, all right, because I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: exactly what the Bucks need to do tonight if they're

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Speaker 1: not go home down to zipp You're ready? This is

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Speaker 1: my audition to be an NBA head coach. You're ready? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: All right? First of all, I'm glad you guys are here.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about paying all of you.

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Speaker 1: You're all getting contracts now if they're gonna win this

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Speaker 1: game tonight. Right, I get that there's there's a sense

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Speaker 1: Can Chris Paul really keep this up? Right? Can he

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Speaker 1: got an injury history. I mean, not just for the Knicks,

425
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Speaker 1: because if if the Knicks get there, then you know

426
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Speaker 1: things are gonna go bad. Right, Well, he's gonna get

427
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 1: hurt signing the contract, right the pen is gonna break

428
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 1: and it's gonna go through his thought. He's gonna be

429
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 1: out for like six months. I mean, that's out. Would

430
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 1: work for the Knicks good, but just for anybody, man.

431
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 1: I feel like, yes, he has been really good, but

432
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 1: forty million dollars to a guy who's gonna be thirty seven,

433
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 1: he hits the wall, you're stuck for like four years.

434
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason guys who were thirty seven

435
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 1: don't get forty million dollars a year. It's it's too

436
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,199
Speaker 1: big of a risk. And if the big question is

437
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 1: when you sit down at the end of the season, going, hey,

438
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 1: do we want to go after Chris Paul? And the

439
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 1: first question is can he keep this up for the

440
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 1: next three years, that's a big extre me saying I

441
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 1: can't give this guy forty million a year. Well, the

442
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 1: age is obviously a concern, but the one thing that

443
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 1: Chris Paul has shown is that he can take a

444
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Speaker 1: step back and he's infectious on your culture right now.

445
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would be concerned with injury, but I

446
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't be asking a lot. And the New York Knicks,

447
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: I know, I get it, they do mess things up,

448
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: but I don't know. You know, you're right, I don't.

449
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 1: I don't want to act like, No, they've always handled

450
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 1: every situation perfectly, absolutely no, like they've been at the

451
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 1: model of excellence in the NBA and professionals. No, I can't.

452
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 1: I can't do that. I can't do that. Yeah, I

453
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 1: can't do that. I'm sorry. But Chris has shown you

454
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Speaker 1: that he's going to every single culture that he's been at.

455
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: They've been losing cultures and he's made them winning. Um,

456
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: think about his very beginning with the Hornets. The Hornets

457
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 1: became a winning organization when Chris Paul got there, now

458
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 1: known as the Pelicans. We're going over to the Clippers.

459
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: Clippers weren't winners. You didn't think about Clippers in championship

460
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 1: in any any breath. Now, we didn't win in championship, clearly,

461
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: but Chris Paul turned that culture around. Then Houston was

462
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Speaker 1: able to kind of make that next step. Some may

463
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 1: argue they or a hamstring away from an NBA championship.

464
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 1: Some may say not so much. I think not so much.

465
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: But there was definite improvement there when Chris got there.

466
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 1: And then okay, see and now arguably his tallest task

467
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: here with the Sun's going all the way to win

468
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: an NBA championship, maybe the most fortunate NBA championship of

469
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Speaker 1: all time. Well yeah, it's safe to say that if

470
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Speaker 1: you said the most fortunate NBA championship of all time.

471
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Speaker 1: But ultimately, at the end of the day, Chris Paul

472
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Speaker 1: has created winning cultures and a lot of this is

473
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Speaker 1: not the paycheck. It's really big for a guy behind

474
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Speaker 1: the scenes. But the question would be back to you, Jason,

475
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Speaker 1: what value would you put on a guy who can

476
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Speaker 1: who can create culture in a winning system, Maybe not

477
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Speaker 1: a championship, but for guys who don't know how to win.

478
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Speaker 1: How much do you value teaching winning from a player perspective? Oh,

479
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Speaker 1: I love intangibles, and I love teaching, and I love

480
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: teaching winning. But forty four million dollars is too much

481
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: to say. Okay, even if you're not that good, you

482
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: gonna show the guys how to win, right, I mean

483
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: I would expect no matter who you would, what kind

484
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: of contract you're signing, you'd expect him to have that. Look.

485
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 1: I love, and intangibles are really important, and I get that,

486
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: and I get his his track record, but thirty seven

487
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 1: and an injury history, it's it's really I get I'd

488
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: get a breakout of rash on my on my arms going,

489
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't believe we're gonna sign him to

490
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Speaker 1: this and this is gonna be it, because if if

491
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: this doesn't work, you're stuck, right, You're stuck because you

492
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: can't move his contract. No one's gonna take take him

493
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Speaker 1: for forty million dollars. They would take him for a

494
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: little bit less money, like if you signed him for

495
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: twenty or twenty five million something like that, you know,

496
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: three years and sixty million somewhere. If that doesn't work

497
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: and you really want to get out, there's another team

498
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: that could say, all right, well we'll take a chance

499
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: on him. He's been a winner every you know, twenty

500
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Speaker 1: twenty five million, we can do this. He's got a

501
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: year and a half left expiring deal and all that

502
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Yeah, we we can do that. We're

503
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: okay with that. But forty four million, I mean, it's

504
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Speaker 1: it's it's too big of a risk. If I'm gonna

505
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Speaker 1: spend forty four million, I want a guy, I'm gonna say,

506
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Speaker 1: I want a guy like Damian Lillard. I want a

507
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Speaker 1: guy like Brad Beel, someone who I know is gonna

508
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: come in and is gonna fill it up and is

509
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: going to be a part of my future and is

510
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: still young enough to to not have to worry about

511
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: his health. You know, Look, Damian Lillard's getting to the

512
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: backside of his prime now, being thirty thirty one. But still, okay,

513
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm up with paying him if I mean, I gotta

514
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: get some kind of production for forty four minute. I

515
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: can't say, Boy, he's great in the locker room. Yes,

516
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: here's that forty four million dollar check. Man, that's just

517
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: too much for me. Yeah, but you have to understand

518
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: and this free agency. You know, Lebron's not on the

519
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 1: table right now, you know Lillard's not up. Maybe you

520
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: can trade from him for him, which every team in

521
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: the league is probably you know, reached over, inquired about

522
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: or should be a potentially Lillard is gonna be getting

523
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 1: out of Portland. But this is not a stat free

524
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: agent class. And you know, I get it. Maybe it's

525
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: a you know, a team option you know, with with

526
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Speaker 1: with the money on the table, and I get it.

527
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,719
Speaker 1: But if you're New York and and right now, as

528
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: long as you don't get in the way as something else,

529
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: you can do a short deal with Chris Paul. Now

530
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: Chris is gonna I think gonna have the question on

531
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Speaker 1: the table though. Excuse me, Oh man, you're right there, boy,

532
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: yeah no, A little little little nose twitch, little nose twitch,

533
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm Chris Paul, show up behind you. And put you

534
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: in a headlock. Is that what happened? I felt that

535
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: was the that was the the NBA GM's getting at me.

536
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: But Chris Paul is gonna command either a very short,

537
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, one or two year max max deal or

538
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: or less and take the longevity. And that's why I

539
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: truly believe Jason. I don't know if I've said this

540
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: to you or not. I think the Los Angeles Lakers

541
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: on major contention for Chris Paul. I think I think

542
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: that it makes sense. I think that at this stage

543
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: in his career, it's not about the money. I think

544
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: maybe he went one of four or five year kind

545
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: of you know, shorter, you know, less money, but longer,

546
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: longer extent, and he would have the chance to play

547
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: with his best Bud and Lebron James, and they're both

548
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: in this stage is where no, I don't have a

549
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: full season for you of you know, max effort, but

550
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: I got you know, twenty five to thirty minutes per game.

551
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: And the one thing Lebron really needed it just someone

552
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: to step up in the playoffs. And I didn't think

553
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: the times before were really good for Chris Paul because

554
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: he was just making too much and commanding too much,

555
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: and I thought that the effort didn't match the output,

556
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 1: But now I think he falls into a real sweet

557
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: spot where those guys can tag team, and to be

558
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: quite frank, the Lakers need a man. Dennis Schroeder is

559
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: not the answers. We just saw Ryan Holland with a

560
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: big take there trying to get Chris Paul to the Lakers.

561
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: We'll got more on that coming up in a bit,

562
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: but right now, a guy who I'm sure would like

563
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: to see Chris Paul on the Lakers and maybe could

564
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: pull together forty four million dollars to get Chris Paul

565
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Speaker 1: to not play in the finals. Dennis Crousy, color analysts

566
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: for home games from Alwaukee Bucks Radio Network, also pregame

567
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: show hosts with the Green Bay Packers, joins us now

568
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 1: on the hotline. Dennis, good morning, how's it going. I'm

569
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: doing great. Good to be with you guys, all right,

570
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: So tell me going in here, going in here to

571
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: Game two. Ryan and I talked about this the past

572
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: few minutes. Is it as much for the Bucks as hey,

573
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: let's sell out to stop Chris Paul, because if we don't,

574
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: he's just going to continue to kill us over the

575
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: course of the series. Yeah, it's interesting. You know, the

576
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: knock on the Bucks and past years was that they

577
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: didn't switch enough, and now the knack is they're switching

578
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: too much. And obviously Chris Paul and Devin Booker had

579
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: their way with mid range shots. One thing I know

580
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: about this Bucks team is they've done a good job

581
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: of adjusting after losing game ones of series. They lost

582
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: Game one to Brooklyn. The fact they lost Game two

583
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: to Brooklyn by thirty nine points, then they lost Game

584
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 1: one at home to Atlanta. They won both those series,

585
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: so they know the series is not over. That they

586
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: know they also have to do some things differently than

587
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: they did in Game one against the Suns. So it

588
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: will be fascinating for me to see what they do

589
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: in game two tonight. Hey Dennis, how you doing. Ryan

590
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 1: Holland's here, Great to be with you. How how big

591
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: is this for Yannis? How does how do the Bucks

592
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: fans kind of see this? I know that a lot

593
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: of people at some moments got down on Yannis saying, well,

594
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: he's not a closer, he's not this, he's not that.

595
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: But you know, he's kind of injured, and it's bittersweet

596
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: that now he's injured, But on the other end, he's

597
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals. What's just kind of the feeling

598
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: around Yannis with with the Bucks and just even in

599
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: this city and itself. I think Jannis is really beloved

600
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, more than he is around the country,

601
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: because you got to remember, this is a guy who

602
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: um turned away a chance to enter free agency and

603
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: signed to stay in Milwaukee, and that that that brought

604
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: him a lot of love. If he didn't have it already,

605
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: He's he's universally loved in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and you know,

606
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: to say he can do no wrong it is probably

607
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: a little bit strong, But I think the fact that

608
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: he was even out there in Game one, just a

609
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: week after hyper extending a knee tells you a lot

610
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: about him. He's a fast healer, He's a spierce competitor.

611
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: Is he one hundred percent right now? Only he could

612
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: tell you that, but I'm sure he isn't. He probably

613
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: is dealing with more pain than he wants to let on.

614
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: But he wants to be out there for his team.

615
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: He knows that, you know, trips to the NBA Finals

616
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: are precious, and he doesn't want this one to slip away.

617
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: He said yesterday that he came out of Game one

618
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: pretty good and he hopes to be able to do

619
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: more things in game two. On the court, I think

620
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: the Bucks did a smart thing by having it handle

621
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: the ball as much in game one than he does

622
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: usually when he's healthy, and that kind of takes some

623
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: of the wear and tear off. But it also he

624
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: knows limits some of his effectiveness because a lot of

625
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: the times he's most effective is when he can kind of,

626
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: as he says, go downhill and slash into the lane

627
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: with his power. So we'll see what he has to

628
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: offer in game two. But just speaking personally, I don't

629
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: think he has anything to prove to people around this

630
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: state about who he is now. There might be some

631
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: questions around the nation about, you know, whether he's Jordan

632
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: or Pippin, and I'm we've heard that for years, but

633
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: he's beloved in Wisconsin. When it comes to free throws.

634
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: He spent a lot of time talking about that the

635
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: last couple of days. We're really surprising how open he

636
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Speaker 1: is about how he knows that everybody is counting when

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Speaker 1: he's taken his free throws. And look, he's not been

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Speaker 1: good from the line. He says, yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 1: hear it a little bit, but then I kind of

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Speaker 1: lock in and focus and I hear him say that Dennis,

641
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Speaker 1: and I go, well, is he really locked in and

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Speaker 1: focused If he's telling us how much he's hearing everybody

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Speaker 1: counting and he knows what's going on at the line, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting. You know, there's a couple of ways he

645
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Speaker 1: could approach this when asked about it. He could say,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what you're talking about and

647
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Speaker 1: pretend that he doesn't know. He goes the other way,

648
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Speaker 1: it says yeah, I hear it and kind of tries

649
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Speaker 1: to have fun with it. Now, let's be honest. He's

650
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Speaker 1: not a good free throw shooter with the chance or

651
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Speaker 1: without the chance. It's it's been a problem or refor him. Now.

652
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Speaker 1: In the second half of the season he was better,

653
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Speaker 1: but in the playoffs the numbers have not been great.

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Speaker 1: And you say, well, is it Is it a mental thing? Now,

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Speaker 1: it'd be hard to say it isn't. The chance I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he hears. He acknowledges that he hears. The chance

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Speaker 1: seemed to be a little bit fast because most times

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Speaker 1: he seems to release it when they say eleven or twelve,

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Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is he's going through

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Speaker 1: a routine that he thinks works for him. I think

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Speaker 1: until he hits pressure free throws to help seal a

662
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Speaker 1: finals game, the questions will continue. But you know, we've

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Speaker 1: seen this before with other great players, whether it be

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Speaker 1: Shack or whether it be Wilton. It's almost like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you can do so many things very well, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: give you something you can't do great and for him

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Speaker 1: it's free throws. How big has Chris Middleton been? And

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Speaker 1: can this team win without him having a major performance

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Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals? We know Jannis is played well

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Speaker 1: and you know the Bucks of Laws through some of

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Speaker 1: his monster performances, But how well and how important is

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Speaker 1: Chris Middleton to this equation? Because, like you said, you

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Speaker 1: touched on a little bit, is who's Who's Jordan, Who's Pippin,

674
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Speaker 1: Who's who? You know? What do you saying? Well? I

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Speaker 1: think you make a good point about Middleton's importance, and

676
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Speaker 1: I think he is underscored with Jannis not being one

677
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Speaker 1: hundred Percentum does Chris Middleton have to have a twenty

678
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Speaker 1: three point quarter like he had against Atlanta? No? But

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Speaker 1: I don't think he can be three for eighteen either

680
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Speaker 1: for the Bucks to win in this series. So I

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Speaker 1: would say to you that he needs to be who

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Speaker 1: he is, which is a very good player, an Olympian,

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Speaker 1: a two time All Star, a guy who I think,

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, has been somewhat overlooked, and maybe he

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Speaker 1: doesn't he doesn't self promote. He's a second round pick

686
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Speaker 1: who was essentially a throwing in the Brandon Knight Brandon

687
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Speaker 1: Jennings deal from Detroit, and he's turned into a terrific player.

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00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: He can go off on you, and when he gets hot,

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Speaker 1: as we've seen, it's it's fun to watch. He does

690
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Speaker 1: have nights where he doesn't have it, and so the

691
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Speaker 1: shooting percentage isn't isn't always great. But I think for

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Speaker 1: the Bucks, to answer your question, for the Bucks to

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Speaker 1: win this series, he has to be more on than off,

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Speaker 1: and he has to have some big efforts, especially if

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Speaker 1: Johanness is curtailed. All right, Dennis, Lastly, you're going to

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Speaker 1: finish the NBA Finals, You're gonna go right to training

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Speaker 1: camp for the Packers pregame show host for the Packers

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Speaker 1: Radio network. When you get to camp is Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: going to be there. I wish I knew. My guess

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Speaker 1: is no. My guess is that this is going to

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Speaker 1: stretch out a little bit into the regular season, and

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Speaker 1: they're going to see what they have and in Jordan Love, now,

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Speaker 1: it's possible that Rogers shows up and pulls a Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson and essentially says, I don't know, you know, the

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Speaker 1: media made more of this. I wasn't really that upstair.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's possible that he's there in late July

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Speaker 1: when when camp opens. But I'm I'm thinking this is

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Speaker 1: going to stretch on a while because the Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: I know, and I don't pretend to be a close

710
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Speaker 1: confident on her friend, but the Aaron Rodgers I know

711
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Speaker 1: holds onto things. He doesn't just given forget quickly. So

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Speaker 1: I think whatever problems there are, and there certainly must

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Speaker 1: be some with Packers management, I just don't see him

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Speaker 1: putting that all to the side and suddenly showing up

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Speaker 1: for training camp and saying everything's fine. You can follm

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Dennis Krousy one. That's at Dennis Krowsy one. Dennis,

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Speaker 1: thanks a bunch, and enjoy the games. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you soon. Dennis, have a good day, all right? There

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Speaker 1: he goes that, boy, that's some gig to go from. Hey,

720
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Bucks in the finals. The entire state is

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Speaker 1: going crazy. And then then I get to go to

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Speaker 1: Packers training camp where everybody's gonna want to know what's

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Speaker 1: going on with Aaron Rodgers. Every day you talk about

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Speaker 1: beating the sweet spot. Man, that's Dennis Crousy. Oh, I

725
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Speaker 1: can imagine in I wonder in milwauch and you get

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Speaker 1: a chance to ask him this. But are the fans

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Speaker 1: kind of looking at Aaron Rodgers saying, come on, man,

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Speaker 1: get over? Are they saying, yo, like the front off

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Speaker 1: is messed up? Dude? Why did Jordan love? Because you look?

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Speaker 1: I know it from being a former player. Sometimes those

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Speaker 1: messages get mixed up. And I know when the NFL

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Speaker 1: players do the way the way their negotiations are set up,

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Speaker 1: they don't have to having to hold out in the

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Speaker 1: in season and miss games and the fans get penalized

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Speaker 1: with Sometimes the fans will unfairly, you know, dislike a

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Speaker 1: player Jason, And that's that's what could be happening with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, even though he's been really spit on over there. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you if if I'm if I am a

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Speaker 1: if I'm a Packers fan, what I say is, how

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Speaker 1: did you do this with Brett Farve? Now you're doing

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Speaker 1: it with Aaron Rodgers. And and that's why this is

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Speaker 1: such a big deal for Rogers because he's got all

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Speaker 1: the You got all the cachet on this, because he's

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Speaker 1: the reigning MVP, and he's the guy that wants things

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Speaker 1: to change. And look, the Packers fans want things to change.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to go into the NFC title game

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Speaker 1: and have their coach kick a field goal at the

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Speaker 1: end when they they need to go and and and

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Speaker 1: get six points. He's got all the cache right now.

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Speaker 1: They all don't you know, Gudakoon's the GM head coach,

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Speaker 1: the foot none, they don't have it. So right now, yeah,

752
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Speaker 1: the public side is going to be on Aaron Rodgers

753
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Speaker 1: because they know if he's on man, we could be

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Speaker 1: stuck because Jordan Love may stink, may stink out loud

755
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Speaker 1: and then where are we at least last time we knew, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're going from Brett Farve to Aaron Rodgers. We drafted

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Speaker 1: him in the first round. He sat for a while.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's time for him. Jordan loves the guy

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00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: that we have no idea how good he's going to be.

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Speaker 1: Is he gonna be ready? Is he someone that NET

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Speaker 1: would need to sit for another couple of seasons? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think that it's all Aaron Rodgers, and that's why

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Speaker 1: this is going the way it is, because he's got

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Speaker 1: that much on his side. Right now, Dan Patrick Show,

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Speaker 1: got more NBA talk coming up in a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: Got to get back into Ryan's take of Chris Paul

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Speaker 1: to the Lakers. Finally, you know, seven years too late,

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Speaker 1: but straight ahead. Have we seen one baseball star throw

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Speaker 1: his last pitch of twenty twenty one? That's coming up

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Speaker 1: story yesterday that kind of lends itself into today. We

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Speaker 1: may have seen Trevor Bauer throw his last pitch of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one the Dodgers. Ace had his Bobblehead night

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Speaker 1: canceled by the Dodgers a day ago, and all his

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Speaker 1: merchandise has been removed from the team's store and online.

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Speaker 1: This as he's facing allegations of sexual assault. He's not

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Speaker 1: been with the Dodgers for the past few days. He

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Speaker 1: has been on paid leave, a leave that's likely to

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Speaker 1: continue for the next few days, at least through the

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Speaker 1: All Star break. But you know, Ryan, I look at

804
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Speaker 1: this and I see here's Trevor Bauer who is on leave.

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00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: The Dodgers are already planning for in August. We're not

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Speaker 1: going to have his bobblehead, We're taking all his merchandise out.

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Speaker 1: They kind of have to proceed as if he's not

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Speaker 1: coming back this year because both Major League Baseball, the Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: everybody investigating this, the Pasadena Police Department want to talk

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Speaker 1: to him, they want to talk to the woman, and

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Speaker 1: they have all said, we don't know when that's gonna happen.

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00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen anytime soon, right, So it's like

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Speaker 1: hit or miss. If he's even going to play the

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Speaker 1: rest of the season, he's going to even throw another pitch, Certainly,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to be soon. You can't say, okay,

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Speaker 1: after the All Star Break is over, here comes Trevor

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Speaker 1: Bauer coming back. Because if you compare this to what's

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Speaker 1: going on with Deshaun Watson right now in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: where Watson is facing these charges stemming from alleged sexual

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Speaker 1: misconduct from all these masseus, from women who are masseuses.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to be able to get back on

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Speaker 1: the field till this is solved. Right, So he can't

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Speaker 1: just show up to training camp but go, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: good while this is all happening. No, he's going to

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Speaker 1: sit out until there's a decision one way or another.

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Speaker 1: Now that Bauer's actually on this list, I can't see

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Speaker 1: him come back while this is still playing out. There

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Speaker 1: needs to be some kind of resolution, and that's either

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Speaker 1: there's no charge, there's a settlement that whatever it's going

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Speaker 1: to be. I can't see him coming back until there's

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Speaker 1: a solution on this. So if the way the wheels

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Speaker 1: of justice go, we know they don't go that fast.

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Speaker 1: I think from a baseball perspective, the Dodgers have to

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Speaker 1: look at this and say, we're not going to have

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Speaker 1: him the rest of the season. We have to we

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Speaker 1: have to prepare as if he has thrown his last

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Speaker 1: pitch for us in twenty twenty one. Now you're right,

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Speaker 1: And I've never had a situ like this with a teammate,

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Speaker 1: but I know how sticky it is. But because of

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Speaker 1: the strength of the you know, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: call them allegations or whatever it may be. It classifies under. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're you're not gonna be seeing them any anytime soon.

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00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: And that's just the an unfortunate part. And you know,

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Speaker 1: these situations are going on all the time, man, and

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Speaker 1: you just hope that uh, you know, justice is served.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's an extremely tough situation. And I know,

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Speaker 1: as a teammate, if I're in the locker room, you know,

848
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Speaker 1: you just kind of put your head down, shut your mouth,

849
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Speaker 1: and mind your own business, you know, when these things happen,

850
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Speaker 1: because you don't know, ultimately, unless if you were there,

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Speaker 1: what had happened, you know, or what what's going on

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00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: in these situations, And unfortunately, you want to, you know,

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Speaker 1: move forward, and if you're one of the Dodgers, just

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Speaker 1: get back to baseball. You know, Yeah, it's tough, it's it,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's a lot easier to do it now

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Speaker 1: that he's not around the team. It was really difficult, look,

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Speaker 1: and baseball just waited till the last minute. This is

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Speaker 1: what baseball does. Well, when are we getting the worst publicity? Oh,

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Speaker 1: now we'll do something like he should have been given

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Speaker 1: leave after this. Herry, this is a real serious story.

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Speaker 1: Now we have to make sure, especially when he didn't

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Speaker 1: deny it. He said, you know, it's a real difficult

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Speaker 1: story to talk about. We're talking about rough sex. When

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Speaker 1: he didn't deny it and he said no, this was

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Speaker 1: something that was consensual, that's when baseball has to say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know what, you're gonna be on leave for a while.

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Speaker 1: We figure this out. It's one thing, and it legally

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Speaker 1: one thing when you're fighting a charge. Okay, we have

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Speaker 1: to have the investigation. But the fact that he said, yeah, no, no,

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Speaker 1: this happened, but it was consensual, that's where Baseball should

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Speaker 1: have stepped instead of waiting. As long as they didn't say, oh,

872
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: now that he's going to pitch, people are really upset,

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Speaker 1: oh we'll put him on this list. Well that was

874
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: a big mistake. Well, Jay, here's the thing for the

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Speaker 1: players that you said, yeah, their mindset is to move forward.

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00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 1: But guess what, every time they step into a press

877
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: conference or talk to a reporter, they're being asked about

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00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: it so ultimately that the Dodger players and staff and

879
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: coaching that they just can't move forward. So yeah, you

880
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: move forward and you accept schematically, how are they gonna play?

881
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: Was the lineup gonna be? The next guy up? As

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Speaker 1: stepped up? But you don't move forward from something like

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Speaker 1: this because you have to discuss it, You have to

884
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: talk about it, and people are asking you about it.

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00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: So that's the cloud over your head. When you decide

886
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: to make a poor choice. It doesn't just affect you,

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Speaker 1: it affects your teammates, and honestly, more times than not,

888
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: the difference between the World Series or Championship when any

889
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: sport when these things happen. Twitter at how about a fresca?

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Speaker 1: Ryan at the Ryan Hollins, Jason Smith, Ryan Hollins, and

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Speaker 1: for Danna the Danets will have more and the Trevor

892
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: Bauer story coming up. But yeah, you gotta think he's

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Speaker 1: throwing his last pitch of twenty twenty one and proceed accordingly.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, we have a baseball play by play

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Speaker 1: call from last night. You absolutely have to hear. Plus

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Speaker 1: moren CP three to the Lakers, Fox