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Speaker 1: What do we have, Krystal. Indeed we do, as you

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Speaker 1: and say that, but some six dollars and seventy cents.

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Speaker 1: So look, you're pushing seven, you know, even seven eighty

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Speaker 1: in some places, like the word Alpine County, California, seven

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Speaker 1: dollars and seventy nine a gallon. This this, like I said,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people there, and California in a

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Speaker 1: lot of ways has been over five. It really is

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Speaker 1: the future. But also we're not seeing demand destruction in California.

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Speaker 1: People are still driving, they still have a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff that they have to do. They've been cooped up

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Speaker 1: there for two years. Yeah. Yeah. And then you couple

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Speaker 1: this with you know a lot of bosses that were

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Speaker 1: like get your asses back in the office for the

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Speaker 1: white collar workers, not helping things either. And yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean we are public transit in almost all of the

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Speaker 1: country is complete shit, So people don't have any other option.

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Speaker 1: What else are you gonna do? You have no other choice.

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Speaker 1: So it's a dire situation. And we'll be watching closely

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Speaker 1: what the Fed does this week, as everyone else will,

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Speaker 1: because ultimately, in a lot of ways, our fate is

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Speaker 1: in their hands too, So everybody's stay tuned. Okay, guys,

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Speaker 1: a big announcement from Senator Chris Murphy on a potential

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Speaker 1: bipartisan deal on UH to address the mass shooting epidemic

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Speaker 1: that we've been suffering in this country for a long time. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's go ahead and put Chris Murphy's thread here up

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Speaker 1: on the screen. I'm gonna read through all of this

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Speaker 1: so you get all the details. He says, we have

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Speaker 1: a deal by partisan group of twenty Senators ten, D

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Speaker 1: and ten are announcing a breakthrough agreement on gun violence.

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Speaker 1: So the first piece here is major funding to help

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Speaker 1: states pass and implement crisis intervention orders. Those are the

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Speaker 1: so called red flag laws. Billions in new funding for

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Speaker 1: mental health and school safety Republican priority there, including money

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Speaker 1: for the national buildout of community mental health clinics. Next piece,

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Speaker 1: and this one directly relates to guns. Close the quote

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Speaker 1: boyfriend loophole so that no domestic abuser, a spouse, or

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Speaker 1: a serious dating partner can buy a gun if they're

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Speaker 1: convicted of abuse against their partner. First ever federal law

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Speaker 1: against gun trafficking and straw purchasing should make a difference

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Speaker 1: to stop the flow of legal guns into cities. Enhanced

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Speaker 1: background check this one is kind of a key part

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Speaker 1: for under twenty one gun buyers and a short pause

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Speaker 1: to conduct the check. Young buyers can get the gun

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Speaker 1: only after the enhanced check is completed, so they're not

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Speaker 1: lifting the age that you can buy the gun, but

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Speaker 1: they are instituting a more sort of intensive background check

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Speaker 1: process for buyers under twenty one, and there will be

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Speaker 1: a pause there, so I guess that means you can't

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Speaker 1: just like it's not the instantaneous background check that exists

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Speaker 1: now for those who are under twenty one. They also

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Speaker 1: mention clarification of the laws regarding who needs to register

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Speaker 1: as a licensed gun dealer to make sure all truly

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Speaker 1: commercial sellers are doing background checks. That's something they looked

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Speaker 1: at last time around with the mansion to me bill

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Speaker 1: as well. He closes by saying, well, this bill do

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Speaker 1: everything we need to end our nation's gun violence epidemic. No,

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Speaker 1: but it's real, meaningful progress. It breaks a thirty year logjam,

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Speaker 1: demonstrating Democrats and Republicans can work together in a way

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Speaker 1: that truly slaves lives. The Republicans who are involved in this,

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Speaker 1: just so you know, the names are Cornin, Tillis, Blunt, Burr, Cassidy, Collins, Graham, Portman, Romney,

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Speaker 1: and Toomey. So those are the ten Republicans that have

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Speaker 1: signed on. Obviously, that's a key number because if you

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Speaker 1: get the fifty Democrats, which we assume they'd all be

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Speaker 1: on board, plus the ten Republicans, you're able to break

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Speaker 1: the filibuster and actually get this thing through the Senate.

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Speaker 1: Biden reacted. He issued, you know, a positive statement. He says,

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Speaker 1: each day that passes more children are killed in this country.

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Speaker 1: The sooner this comes to my desk, the sooner I

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Speaker 1: can sign it, the sooner we can use these measures

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Speaker 1: to save lives. He's you know, says some things about, look,

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Speaker 1: this doesn't go as far as I want, but at

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Speaker 1: least it's an important step in the right direction. Also,

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Speaker 1: a relatively positive statement from Mitch McConnell. Is somewhat noncommittal

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Speaker 1: but generally positive from McConnell gun and put this next

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Speaker 1: piece up. He says he supports gun proposal negotiations and

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Speaker 1: again reiterated sort of his priorities there that it addresses

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Speaker 1: key issues like mental health, school safety, respects the Second Amendment,

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Speaker 1: and earns broad support in the Senate. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's being proposed here on guns is extremely limited. It's

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Speaker 1: you know, basically the enhanced background checks for those who

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Speaker 1: are purchasing and our under the age of twenty one,

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Speaker 1: closing the so cool called boyfriend loophole, beefing up the

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Speaker 1: straw purchasing laws, which I do actually think is really significant.

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Speaker 1: I talked before about those numbers of how many of

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Speaker 1: this small number of stores that sell the overwhelming majority

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Speaker 1: of guns that are ultimately used in violent crimes. So

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Speaker 1: that does actually matter. Listen, I said before, Is this

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Speaker 1: like everything that I would want it to be? No,

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Speaker 1: of course not. But I feel it's so important just

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Speaker 1: to get something done so the American people have some

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Speaker 1: sense of like, oh, we actually are able to react

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Speaker 1: and enact legislation after something horrible happens where there's overwhelming

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Speaker 1: public support in favor of doing something. So from that perspective,

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Speaker 1: I certainly support it. There's still those soga, a lot

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Speaker 1: of question marks whether it we'll actually get through. This

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Speaker 1: is not the legislation hasn't been drafted. This is a framework.

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Speaker 1: And the other piece here is Republicans want the money

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Speaker 1: for mental health these community clinics to be offset by

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Speaker 1: their budget cuts. Where will that come from? So that's

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Speaker 1: a big question. Market. Yeah, we've always have to play

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Speaker 1: deficit fakery, but not whenever we ship arms to Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: of course. But of course I just love it's totally different.

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Speaker 1: We love Americans' priorities here of course. Look like I said,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've I've voiced my own concerns about red

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Speaker 1: flag laws. That being said, it's not a terrible bill

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Speaker 1: because what it does is it provides funding to states

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Speaker 1: if they want to pass a red flag law. So

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Speaker 1: it's not forcing our national red flag law. It says

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Speaker 1: that they will implement crisis intervention orders and fund those

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Speaker 1: centers if the states choose to do so. So look,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm generally a supporter of federalism, So if

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Speaker 1: that's what they want to do. Then I think that's fine.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's up to the states like Connecticut, New

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Speaker 1: York or others, or Florida and how they want to

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Speaker 1: have enforcement, and ultimately that has to be litigated at

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Speaker 1: the state level. The rest of it, I mean beyond

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Speaker 1: the and that's if this thing falls apart, it will

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Speaker 1: almost certainly be on the red flag provisions because they

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Speaker 1: actually write in the provision that it has to be

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Speaker 1: contingent with civil liberties. I looked into this a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of want and all over the place, which

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Speaker 1: is that the standard is different state by state on

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Speaker 1: different red flag laws. So some have much stronger civil

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Speaker 1: liberties due process due process like provisions within the state.

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Speaker 1: I think Colorado is one. But there's actually a much

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Speaker 1: higher barrier to proof on like mental health commitment than

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Speaker 1: there is on the red flag due process part in

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Speaker 1: states like New Mexico. So anyway, that is going to

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Speaker 1: be a point of contendent. That's where the NRA always

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Speaker 1: points to you, by the way, whenever they come out

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Speaker 1: against these things. I do actually think that this one

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Speaker 1: about the juvenile background checks, that one's great because even

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Speaker 1: though it doesn't raise the age to twenty one. It

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Speaker 1: makes it so that you're allowed to look at juvenile

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Speaker 1: records and have a more further investigation for people who

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Speaker 1: are buying under twenty one. Given that we have these

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Speaker 1: limited number of instances within Nicholas cruises of the world,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the guy who shot up the Uvaldi

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Speaker 1: school and they both had some past instances brief whatever's

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Speaker 1: with law enforcement, and we're known having some sort of

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Speaker 1: investigative period, you know, without also infringing on people's rights

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Speaker 1: to buy gun. Overall, I think it's like not a

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Speaker 1: terrible piece of legislation, like I said, you know, as

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Speaker 1: long as it leads it up to the states to

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Speaker 1: be able to do what they want. And I actually

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Speaker 1: do think it's going to pass Bristol. I do, even

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Speaker 1: though it is these ten Republicans and has some possibility

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Speaker 1: to fall apart. The weakest link in the chain is

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Speaker 1: going to be John Cornyn given that he's from the

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Speaker 1: state of Texas and Texas not support red flag law whatsoever,

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Speaker 1: so he is probably the most likely to fold there

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Speaker 1: given political pressure. The rest of them are either retiring

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Speaker 1: or they're very much in like kind of a you know,

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Speaker 1: more centrist position, like a Lindsay Graham or you know

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Speaker 1: Bill Cassidy, or even a Tom Tillis in North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: He comes from a more conservative state. But the rest

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Speaker 1: of them, actually, Susan Collins could have some shake up

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Speaker 1: their Maine is a very pro gun state actually because

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Speaker 1: more rural. So we'll see, like I said, but overall,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that NRA and gun orgs will

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Speaker 1: probably come out against it, given the red flag provision,

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Speaker 1: but I I don't think they're going to fight as

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Speaker 1: hard give it. It doesn't ban anything, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean is against literally everything, So I mean they're

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Speaker 1: not a constructive partner in any of these talks or discussions.

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Speaker 1: I also, I'm interested in seeing the details of the

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Speaker 1: mental health provision because you know, I do think that's

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Speaker 1: extremely important people having access to mental health resources. We

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Speaker 1: know that mental health is a massive and growing challenge

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Speaker 1: in America because of a whole host and range of issues,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that we don't have universal health care

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Speaker 1: obviously makes it so you've got a lot of people

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Speaker 1: who are completely disconnected from the medical system altogether, who

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Speaker 1: certainly don't have coverage for any sort of mental health care.

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Speaker 1: So expanding you know, a network of community mental health clinics,

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Speaker 1: and that could be you know, so the details there matter.

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Speaker 1: How much money is put towards that, How significant will

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Speaker 1: that be in terms of getting people to help that

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Speaker 1: they ultimately need. So again, listen, there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of other things I would like to do. But if

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Speaker 1: you can even take a few positive steps forward to

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Speaker 1: curb some of the deaths from suicide, domestic abuse, homicides,

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Speaker 1: and mass shootings, if you can even curb them by

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Speaker 1: a small percentage, given how high the number here is America,

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Speaker 1: in America, I think that's I think that's worth engaging

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Speaker 1: in and worth taking that step forward. Let me read

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Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey's reaction, the most McConaughey reaction of all time

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Speaker 1: from his instagram. Is it all right? All right? It's

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Speaker 1: even better? It's very poetic. What's the best change you

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Speaker 1: can imagine? I asked the Senator the course of my

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Speaker 1: thirty by Parson meeting something, he replied, I laughed, he didn't.

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Speaker 1: For the first time in thirty years, something has happened.

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Speaker 1: The Senators agreed on a Biparson framework. Something has been

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Speaker 1: done in effort to stop some of the drained individuals.

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Speaker 1: With every horrific act, abuse and hijack the Second Amendment,

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Speaker 1: something has moved that we can hope we can deliver

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Speaker 1: on our shared effort to make a loss with so

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Speaker 1: many lives matter. I do offer a firm handshake and

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Speaker 1: a sincere thank you to the members of both sides

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Speaker 1: who came together. Camilla and I would like to specifically

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Speaker 1: thank the Republican senators. Let's recognize it. Today's announcement doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that we have a solution, but it does support

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Speaker 1: more responsible gun ownership. Just keep living, McConaughey. It's longer,

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Speaker 1: but written. It's written also in like I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's not iambic, I forget what it's even called. But

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Speaker 1: it's written like in center script, almost literally in pros

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Speaker 1: like a poem. So go to his Instagram. It's on

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Speaker 1: his instacription. I mean that does kind of capture how

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Speaker 1: I feel about it. Just show the country that you're

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Speaker 1: able to do something in response to just unconscionable, horrific tragedy.

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Speaker 1: That alone, I getted the bar. That bar is very

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Speaker 1: very low, But that alone, I think is worth taking

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Speaker 1: the step forward for So I guess I have a

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Speaker 1: little bit more skepticism than you that ultimately it comes

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Speaker 1: to pass, just because of how many times I've been

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Speaker 1: burned getting my hopes up about legislation here in DC. Before.

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Speaker 1: There could always be some sort of flying the ointment

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Speaker 1: that dooms the whole thing. But this is a a

646
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Speaker 1: very positive sign of rare bipartisan progress in Washington. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it would be what it would

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Speaker 1: be the first gun leangislation to pass since nineteen ninety eight,

649
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Speaker 1: which is pretty nuts, that's right, think about it. That's

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Speaker 1: more than twenty years. Well, there's been lots of lots

651
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Speaker 1: of movement in the other direction, especially at the state level,

652
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Speaker 1: you know, loosening gun restriction. So this would be the

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Speaker 1: first time that we're saying, all right, let's take a

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Speaker 1: step more towards making sure that these weapons are ending

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Speaker 1: up in the right hands. I mean, that's ultimately what

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Speaker 1: this is about. So this has at its core kind

657
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Speaker 1: of the principle it really matters who It's not so

658
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Speaker 1: much what the weapon is, but who'se hands it ends

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Speaker 1: up into. And I think that that is I think

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Speaker 1: that's a wise approach ultimately. Yeah, Okay, we have some

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Speaker 1: new interesting noises coming from the Democratic Party. This is

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Speaker 1: really pretty significant, big write up in the New York

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Speaker 1: Times about whether or not Biden should run in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. Go ahead and throw this tear sheet up

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Speaker 1: on the screen. So the headline here is should Biden

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Speaker 1: run in twenty twenty four? Democratic whispers of no start

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Speaker 1: to rise, they say in interviews, dozens of frustrated Democratic officials,

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Speaker 1: members of Congress, and voters express doubts about the president's

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Speaker 1: ability to rescue his reeling party and take the fight

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Speaker 1: to Republicans and sagar. They very gingerly in this article

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Speaker 1: suggest that maybe Biden is not quite as with it

672
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Speaker 1: as he once was. Okay, so I guess that taboo

673
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: is now sort of going off the table now that

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00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: it's manifestly clear to everyone. Listen, this is an old guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he's not Yeah, he's not where

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Speaker 1: he was. Let me read you a couple of the

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Speaker 1: quotes here, because this is this again is extraordinary, especially

678
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Speaker 1: coming from the New York Times, which is kind of like,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're channeling the angst of elite Democrats here

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Speaker 1: in Washington and in other key states. They have a

681
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Speaker 1: Democratic National Committee member from Miami who said to say

682
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: our country was on the right track would flagrantly depart

683
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Speaker 1: from reality. Mister Biden should announce his intent not to

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Speaker 1: seek reelection in twenty four right after the midterms. So

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Speaker 1: that's one. You've got another one here from a woman

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Speaker 1: named Anne Hart. She's a Democratic Party co chair in

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Speaker 1: an important county in Iowa. She actually endorsed Biden in

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty caucuses. She introduced him at a campaign

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00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: stop in her area, and she says she can't imagine

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Speaker 1: how Biden manages the presidency at seventy nine years old.

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00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: And she talks about how she's in her sixties and

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Speaker 1: she can't even herself imagine handling that job. She says,

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Speaker 1: I get asked to run for things. Are you kidding?

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Speaker 1: I'm sixty four. We need youth. So I kind of

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Speaker 1: admire him wanting to take this on. I hope he'll

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Speaker 1: pass the torch. Democrats need fresh, bold leadership for the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four presidential race. She said that can't mean Biden.

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Speaker 1: But the real attention grabber here was from former Barack

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Speaker 1: Obama aide David Axelrod. Go ahead and put this one

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00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: up on the screen. This is pretty extraordinary. Stuff said,

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Speaker 1: as the stark reality is the president would be closer

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Speaker 1: to ninety than he would be to eighty at the

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Speaker 1: end of a second term, and that would be a

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Speaker 1: major issue. He goes on to stay and I thought

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Speaker 1: this was I don't know. He says Biden doesn't get

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Speaker 1: the credit he deserves for steering the country through the

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Speaker 1: worst of the pandemic, passing historic legislation, pulling the NATO

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Speaker 1: alliance together, blah blah blah. And part of the reason

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Speaker 1: he doesn't is performative. He looks his age and isn't

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Speaker 1: as agile in front of a camera as he once was.

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Speaker 1: And this is fed a narrative about competence that isn't

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Speaker 1: rooted in reality. So there's a lot going on there

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Speaker 1: in that quote. First of all, I mean, he's trying

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Speaker 1: to give the most favorable narrative for Biden possible. But

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Speaker 1: even within that extremely favorable narrative, he admits that, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a performance issue here, But I just think, I

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00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm seeing all these takes lately about how, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's not getting the credit he deserves and voters just

719
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: don't understand and why don't they care about the things

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00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: they're sosed to care about, like January sixth, and it's like, listen,

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00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: maybe the problem isn't their messaging or isn't there isn't

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Speaker 1: there like not getting the credit they deserve. Maybe the

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00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: problem is that they're actually not delivering for people. Maybe

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00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: that's the issue. Is the substance, not the messaging or

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00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: the sloganeering. Shocking, and look on Biden's age, you know,

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00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: Nate Silver put this out. I think journalists and political

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00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: elites are for the most part, too polite about discussing

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00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: the age of candidates. It is quite reasonable for voters

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00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: to be concerned about someone in their late seventies or

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Speaker 1: older given the demands of the job. Look, Biden would

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Speaker 1: be eighty six years old at the end of his

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Speaker 1: second term. Oh my god, that's crazy town. Like I

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Speaker 1: had dinner before the election with a guy who was

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Speaker 1: seventy eight and he looked at me and he was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm seventy eight years old. He's like, I am at

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Speaker 1: the twilight of my life. He's like the idea that

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Speaker 1: I could assume the most stressful, stressful position in the

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Speaker 1: free world and do it competently every day. He told

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00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: me this quote is batchit crazy brand he's being self

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Speaker 1: aware and listen, I'm not saying that some old people

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Speaker 1: can't do the job. It's obviously very hit or miss

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00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: once you start to push like seventy five. But it's

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Speaker 1: crazy to me that the Senator from California, Diane Feinstein,

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00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: is an open decline and clearly has dementia. And look,

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Speaker 1: really it's just sad because that assumes that it's all

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Speaker 1: about her. I'm sorry. This is public service. Like the

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00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: idea that forty million people are not having their interests

748
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: adequately represented on Capitol Hill is frankly bullshit, Like you

749
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: cannot hold that position when you're ninety something years old

750
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Speaker 1: and you can't remember people's names. You just can't do it.

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Speaker 1: We would never if you were the CEO of a

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00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: publicly traded company, which is far less of an important job.

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00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: The border directors would say, we thank you for your service,

754
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: but you got to move on in the interest of shareholders.

755
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: We're all shareholders in the US government, and yet we

756
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: are not allowed to speak as openly about this. The

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Speaker 1: fact that the president would be eighty something years old

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00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: when he's running already for reelection, that's nuts. I mean,

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00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: it's just frankly nuts. Now, look me wa made me

760
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: judging it against Trump, who is himself obese and also

761
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: nearly eighty years old, so old. Yeah, you know, look,

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00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: look that would certainly be a consideration, but we have

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Speaker 1: to talk about it. We had to do. That gets

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00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: to the crux of the problem here because it's like, well, okay,

765
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: that's definitely an issue, but then who's your alternative? And

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Speaker 1: you know, for Democrats that's that's really the problem. I

767
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: don't think there's any illusions now about how the Biden

768
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: presidency is going. Yeah, like you don't have to be

769
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: a rocket scientist to look at the numbers and say

770
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: this is not working out well. And he clearly is,

771
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: you know, partially in hiding. I mean he does many

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Speaker 1: fewer interviews than other presidents have done. He does with

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel. Right, Well, he's very i mean, he's very inaccessible.

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Speaker 1: We just don't see that much of him. And that's

775
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: clearly because you know, they when he does make comments,

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00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: oftentimes he says something that then his aides are having

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00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: to clean up and they're very uncomfortable with his before

778
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: it's just very clear that it's halting and not commanding

779
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: presence at this point. But then you're like, okay, so

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Speaker 1: then Kamala Harris, No, that's worse. Like I would vote

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Speaker 1: for if my choices were eighty six year old Biden

782
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Speaker 1: or however old Kamala Harris is, I would definitely pick

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Speaker 1: eighty six year old Biden. Right, if my choices are

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Speaker 1: eighty six year old Biden and eighty year old Trump,

785
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm picking eighty six year old Bien. I mean, so

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00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: that's the problem that you end up with is like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we have a political class that is disgustingly

788
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Speaker 1: hollow and vapid and motivated by all the wrong things.

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Speaker 1: They're not sending their best, as you might say, and

790
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Speaker 1: so that's kind of the logic that they're locked into,

791
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: is like, you know, they might engage in these fantasies

792
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: of oh what if we replaced him with I know,

793
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Speaker 1: the one they would really like is Pete footage change,

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Speaker 1: but they don't really know how to pull that off,

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Speaker 1: and so I don't know, I really don't know how

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Speaker 1: it's all going to play out. I think Biden is

797
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: truly minute to running for another term. I think if

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Speaker 1: he is at all like capable of formulating a sentence.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to prop him up because I

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00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: do think, you know, they can't. They're not going to

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Speaker 1: be able to figure out a way to hopscotch over Kamala.

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00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: I personally don't think that Pete would be particularly better electorally,

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00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: and certainly I don't think he would be better in

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00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: terms of actual governance than Biden. So yeah, they're kind

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00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: of stuck. They may know that they're screwed, but they're

806
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: still kind of stuck. Yeah. I've been toying with this

807
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: idea in my head about a prisoner's dilemma for both parties,

808
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: which is that Joe Biden is a Democrat and he's

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Speaker 1: historically unpopular. He would almost be be beaten by any

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Speaker 1: generic Republican in twenty twenty four, but no generic Republican

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Speaker 1: can beat Donald Trump in a primary for the GOP. Also,

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Speaker 1: only Joe Biden could beat Donald Trump in a general election.

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Speaker 1: So it's like one of those things where, yeah, Biden

814
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Speaker 1: is the very historically unpopular Democrat and any generic art

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00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: could beat him, but that person could ever beat Trump.

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Speaker 1: And then the only dem that I see on the

817
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: national scale that even has a chance against Trump is

818
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,479
Speaker 1: probably Joe Biden. So you really get yourself stuck in

819
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: a bad situation. It's exactly the choice that we face

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00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: in twenty choice. Extraordinarily likely that's going to be the

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Speaker 1: choice that we face in twenty twenty four. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, they really box himself in

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Speaker 1: with Kamala. You know, I'm reading that book. This will

824
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: not pass and like the delusion within these people, the

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00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: idea that Kamala was going to add something to the

826
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Speaker 1: ticket is insane, And really they just got boxed in

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Speaker 1: by identity politics. They got you know, Jim Clyburn and

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Speaker 1: Al Sharpton and all these people, like you got to

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Speaker 1: pick a black woman. It's like, okay, well, when you

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Speaker 1: pick somebody solely based upon their identity versus their actual

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Speaker 1: political skill and what actual black people want, well, I

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00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: don't know, that's how you end up in this situation.

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00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: Kamala and Pete are the future, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: any of them would even crack like forty seven percent

835
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: of the vote. Now, yeah, no, it's it's a dire

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00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: situation for the Dams. It really really is. And I

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00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: think the flip side they tried to make this case

838
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: in the article. Obviously I'm not buying this, which is

839
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Speaker 1: to tell you what the other side of the story

840
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: is is like people, you know, Obama's approval ratings were

841
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: bad going into twenty ten. He got to act in

842
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: the midterms, so this is just a lot of hand ringing.

843
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: But there was not this level of angst among Democrats

844
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Speaker 1: about Obama. No, I mean it was. Yes, I actually

845
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: ran for Congress in the ten midterms, so I can

846
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: tell you it was ugly for Democrats, no doubt about it.

847
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: But Obama was always and continues to be extremely popular

848
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: with Democrats. Great, there was, but I mean that in

849
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Speaker 1: his own right, right, Like, I mean he was, yeah,

850
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: he was skilled. There was no one using about like, oh,

851
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: the fact that he can't handle an interview and he's

852
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: got a presentation problem. No, there was definitely none of

853
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: that going on. And so this this is decidedly different.

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Speaker 1: I remember Bernie kind of sort of like flirted with

855
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: maybe running against Obama, and there was just no appetite

856
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: for that whatsoever. So to have a sitting incumbent president

857
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: subject to this level of rumors and angst about whether

858
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: the incumbent president, who has a massive advantage in terms

859
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Speaker 1: of re election, is the right candidate to put up

860
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: next time around. That is that really is extraordinary. I mean, Trump,

861
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: despite how disastrous he was on almost every level, there

862
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: was never any any speculation about whether he was going

863
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 1: to run again. I mean filed for reelect right away,

864
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: But there was never any Republican handwriting about I don't

865
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: know those guy's rely on this may not be the

866
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: right guy for the next go run. No to have

867
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Speaker 1: a sitting incumbent president and you're not sure this is

868
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: the right one to move forward with. That's pretty that's

869
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: pretty unusual. I completely agree. Let's move on then to

870
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: the Trump section because this really gets to the prisoner's

871
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: dilemma that I was talking about earlier. Let's put this

872
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: up there on the screen from the Washington Post and

873
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: very interesting reporting about how the shadow race is now

874
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: underway for the GOP nomination. And this is a direct

875
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: quote from one of Trump's own posters quote, they're all

876
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: going to run against him, and so the people that

877
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,959
Speaker 1: they point to that are openly musing about taking on

878
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 1: the president possibly is number one, his own VP, Mike Pence,

879
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: who's publicly broken with him, who has come out and

880
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: endorsed Brian Kemp did a rally there right after Trump,

881
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 1: so could putting himself on different sides of stop the steal.

882
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: The Jan six hearings alleged that Trump apparently affirmingly said

883
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,959
Speaker 1: that they should hang Mike Pence. I mean he says

884
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: he didn't say it. He said, well, no, okay, So yeah,

885
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: the what they allege is that he said of Mike

886
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: Pence like, maybe who are people in the Capitol were

887
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: channing like hang Mike Pence. That's part we know. They

888
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: build a gallows outside that part we all know. Right.

889
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: The reporting was that Trump said maybe our supporters have

890
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: the right idea. Oh okay, all right. So he denies

891
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: that he directly said hang Mike Pence, but nobody was

892
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: saying that he said directly hang Mike sense okay, Do

893
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: I believe that he said it? Yeah? I do? Okay. Anyway,

894
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: going back to this, so, Mike Pence has been openly

895
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: huddling with some of the Devas family about his donors

896
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: and his vision for the Republican Party. Number two is

897
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: actually Tom Cotton. He's been developing a PowerPoint presentation about

898
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: how previous candidates fail. He's been showing it to donors

899
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 1: and recently Tom Cotton has actually booked for an appearance

900
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: in Iowa. And then number three. I think the most

901
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: formidable possible candidate in this race is Florida Governor Ron DeSantis,

902
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 1: who has been talking about the margins for his twenty

903
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: twenty two reelection. Remember that he ran three points ahead

904
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: of Trump actually in the state of Florida. And look,

905
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: DeSantis is an extraordinarily popular governor. He raiser thin won

906
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: the election in twenty eighteen. Now he's got a sixty

907
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: percent odd approval rating. He became a national Republican icon

908
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: during the pandemic. During in lockdown strategy, he's been pioneering

909
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: a lot of these owned the Libs bills, from Don't

910
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: Say Gay to CRT, which have been very popular in

911
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: the state of Florida, no matter what you think about them.

912
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: He has raised teacher pay actually so is. The teachers'

913
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 1: unions are kind of cool with him. He's been trying

914
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: to save the Everglades, so you know, you can't really

915
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: put him in a box. In a lot of different ways,

916
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: he's a very very popular Republican figure, and I would

917
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: say he's kind of the I would say he's like

918
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: the poor man's Trump choice for a lot of the

919
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: DC elite. They have kind of reconciled themselves. They're like,

920
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: well Trump, I can't stand Trump, but like Ron, you know,

921
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: he's okay, like dollar store Trump. He's like a dollar

922
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: store Trump. But here's the thing, I mean, can he

923
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: actually beat Trump in a head to head nomination? Let's

924
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: put this up there on the screen. There's a lot

925
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: made of this straw pole the Western Conservative Summit. DeSantis

926
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: actually beat Trump in that straw pole. He won seventy

927
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: one percent of the vote compared to Trump's sixty seven. So, okay,

928
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: that's interesting. That kind of shows you amongst the conservative faithful.

929
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: My friend Jason Willock, let's put this up there on

930
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: the screen. He's been tracking the prediction markets, so you

931
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: can see, you know, DeSantis is now actually ahead of

932
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: Donald Trump in the prediction markets. Yeah a thing, Nikky

933
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: Haley number three that tells you how seriously to take

934
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: these things. Yeah. Look, if you were to short that,

935
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: I would short it. So I'll just say what I think,

936
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: Christ Okay, your reacity. I think it is cope and

937
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: fantasy that anybody could beat Donald Trump in a head

938
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: to head matchup. Do some of the GOP not like Trump. Yes,

939
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: does he still have an extraordinary level of affection, faith

940
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 1: and love within the base? Yeah, he does a tremendous amount.

941
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: So even today, in an unfractured race, let's say it's

942
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: DeSantis versus Trump, and many people might even like Rond

943
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: de Santis, but the idea of moving on from Trump.

944
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean, the way I would put it is like this,

945
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: Trump is a celebrity cultural figure, iconoclass who also happens

946
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: to be a politician. DeSantis is a politician, and he

947
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: is not even close to the level of like it's

948
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: hard to describe, but like you don't see people walking

949
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: around with let's go Brandon t shirts that seem to

950
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: align with Ron DeSantis, Like it's all about trait. It's

951
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: the Trump movement. He created, new voters, he inspired. I'm

952
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: not saying it's a good thing. I'm just giving you analysis.

953
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: Trump himself inspires tremendous loyalty beyond the idea of politics,

954
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: which I think is conceivable to a lot of DC elites,

955
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 1: And so they feel comfortable to say, like, oh, Ron

956
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: DeSantis could beat him, and they'll point to some poll

957
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: here or there, and they'll show that Trump can't transfer

958
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: his popularity to David Perdue, neither could Obama, but Obama

959
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: was still tremendously popular, yeah, you know amongst Democrats. So

960
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: I think Trump is an even more Obama like figure

961
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: within the Republican Party. He really is the next Ronald

962
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: Reagan in the idea that you know, people are not

963
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: putting ron DeSantis's face on T shirts like they must

964
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: not ask yourself, even as maybe Trump's endorsement doesn't mean

965
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: everything that it used to mean. Whose endorsement would you

966
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: rather have? Donald Trump or Runes? Exactly? Not close, It's

967
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: not even close. Yeah, I mean DeSantis is like a

968
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: Trump copy. He is, like, like you said, a poor

969
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: man's version of Trump. I mean, he's stylistically different, but

970
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: I'm not sure in a way that's actually beneficial for him.

971
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Trump is extraordinarily gifted politician at certain things,

972
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: and DeSantis doesn't have that level of entertainer of charisma

973
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: and sort of like personal appeal. So I think it

974
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: is cope, and it's like a cope horseshoe of like

975
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: the sort of Republican elites you know, and the type

976
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: of activists that would be at a conference like this

977
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: who want to you know, fancy themselves is really committed

978
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: to the ideas. That's the whole sort of idea of

979
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: getting behind Ron DeSantis is like, oh, it's the Trump

980
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: ideas but without the Twitter account or whatever. And then

981
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: elite liberals who also want to believe that maybe the

982
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: Republican Party could move on from Trump. So it's this

983
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: sort of like horseshoe of cope that feeds this type

984
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: of narrative. I also just don't really think that DeSantis

985
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: would be dumb enough to go up against Trump in

986
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: in a primary. You think he's high on his own supply.

987
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he's high on his own supply. I

988
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 1: don't think he's another shot. So, for example, the lesson

989
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: of Chris Christy was he should have run in twenty twelve,

990
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: and he made a massive mistake by waiting until twenty sixteen. Look,

991
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: DeSantis is hot right now, whether you like it or not.

992
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: Like he's got the juice, He's got all these people

993
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: in Florida, he's got a tremendous voter base, he's got

994
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: a national ID. Four years is of freaking eternity in politics.

995
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: So if DeSantis waits that out, he'll be this ran.

996
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: He'll be old two term governor sitting in the mansion.

997
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: You know, maybe the moment will have passed him by.

998
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean personally, I think the most rational choice that

999
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: DeSantis could make is to run black Swan. Events could happen, right,

1000
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: Trump is seventy nine years old, something like that. He

1001
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: could drop dead tomorrow and we have no idea he

1002
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: could have a heart attack and die or what would

1003
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis was what would his critique of Trump be?

1004
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: So I've seen here's what DeSantis soft critique and the

1005
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: first one that he's ever floated publicly against Trump is

1006
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: Trump is the one who instituted these lockdowns, and I'm

1007
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: the one who pushed against him. But here's the problem.

1008
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: Lockdown juice. There's no juice really in that today. Like

1009
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: I just I can see in my head Trump ridiculing

1010
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: DeSantis in a primary on the stage, mean like he

1011
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 1: grabbles like a little girl from my endorsement and now

1012
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: he's here talking about me. He probably has like audio

1013
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: of Ron DeSantis begging him to do something. Because he's

1014
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: a vindictive man. He hates Ron DeSantis. You know, he

1015
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: wants to be the king of Florida. And the idea

1016
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: that anybody wouldn't bow completely to him, which Ron has

1017
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: kind of refused to do so far. Drives him crazy, especially,

1018
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: and this is a rightful thing. Trump saved Francis Ron

1019
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: DeSantis's ass in the primary in twenty eighteen. You know,

1020
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: DeSantis was down like thirty two points in that primary.

1021
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: He endorsed DeSantis design to shot up won the nomination,

1022
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: and eventually he won governor. So DeSantis does actually owe

1023
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: him for his endorsement back then, which mattered a lot more.

1024
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 1: And it was a very close election. Everybody thought Andrew

1025
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: Gillen was going to win. It was kind of a show.

1026
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: It was so ghose. Yeah. Anyway, more than I'm saying

1027
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: is Trump has the credibility to say DeSantis, you know,

1028
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: asked me for his endorsement, and now he acts like,

1029
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, groveled to me like a little girl to

1030
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: come in. I can just see it in my head,

1031
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: the way that he would ridicule him. And look, DeSantis,

1032
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 1: I'm not denigrating him. I think I'd be a way

1033
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: better president, I think than Trump. He's not crazy. I

1034
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: would I would happily vote for the man if we

1035
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: were to get through a GOP primary. But I don't

1036
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: I just don't see it, Like, I don't see any

1037
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: possible way. I mean, like I said earlier in my

1038
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: Prisoner's Dilemma for people just watching this in clips, I

1039
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: think DeSantis would beat Biden easily by like fifty three

1040
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: to fifty four percent of the popular vote. That being said,

1041
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: I have seen no way that he could get through

1042
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: a GOP primary. So I really don't know. I really

1043
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: don't know how I'm just giving you. In the analytical view,

1044
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: I think it's Trump's party period. Yeah, everybody just has

1045
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: to reckoncult. Even the put the last element that we

1046
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: have up for this about this Politico article, yeah, better

1047
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: than Trump DeSantis's clouds walls in the West. This goes

1048
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: into that straw pole that we referenced earlier. And even

1049
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: so the straw pol is weird because it was like

1050
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: DeSantis bested Trump seventy three to sixty nine or something

1051
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: like that, and was like, those numbers don't add up

1052
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: to one hundred. The way that they the question they

1053
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: ask is my choice, who do you want this person

1054
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: to run? So it's not even who would you pick

1055
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: in a head to head matchup, it's do you want

1056
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: this person to run for president? And so because Trump

1057
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: is a more divisive figure, it makes sense to me

1058
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: that he might get a lower number than DeSantis, who

1059
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: within the Republican base. I mean, he is divisive in

1060
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: terms of naturally, but within the Republican base is a

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Speaker 1: less divisive figure. But that doesn't answer the question of Okay,

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Speaker 1: if your choices are Trump are DeSantis, who are you

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Speaker 1: ultimately picking? And to your point, the fact that Trump

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Speaker 1: has a much more loyal following and you're you know,

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Speaker 1: plenty of average Republicans across the country don't even know

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Speaker 1: who Ron DeSantis is, so that will enable Trump to

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Speaker 1: be able to define him however Trump decides to define him.

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Speaker 1: I don't see what the DeSantis critique of Trump would

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Speaker 1: ultimately be. I just can't imagine how he like separates

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Speaker 1: himself and makes a real case for why people should

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Speaker 1: go with him and so the former president. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't see it, and I'm much more skeptical that

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Speaker 1: he will ultimately jump into the race. But who knows.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the crux of that first article we showed

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Speaker 1: was basically like Trump is not clearing the field. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think you'd have to take a look

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Speaker 1: at the numbers and you'd be hard pressed to really

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Speaker 1: think that this was a worthwhile use of your time

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Speaker 1: this time around. But we'll see. Here's the thing, though,

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Speaker 1: who wants to be Chris Christy. I mean, look at him.

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Speaker 1: He's denigrated to ABC News, is Desanta's he runs for

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Speaker 1: real life. He's running right now for real so I

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Speaker 1: guess so he'd be in So he's still be a governor,

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Speaker 1: you know, next time, or he'll be the governor regardless.

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Speaker 1: But it's more saying, look, four years from now, the

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Speaker 1: narrative is not going to be anywhere even close to COVID.

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Speaker 1: You know, Florida right now is rightfully booming. I think

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00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: that's the thing is that at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: DeSantis could make a positive case. He's like, look, I

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Speaker 1: got Florida through this pandemic. Our economy is doing better

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Speaker 1: than every single other one. The liberal media hates me,

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00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: So that's all the credential that you really need. And

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00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 1: so I see a world where if Trump doesn't run

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Speaker 1: for some health reason, I think DeSantis I think he

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00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: would probably win the nomination. But like I said, I

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Speaker 1: just don't see any way that Trump doesn't run, and

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Speaker 1: barring a black swan health event, which look you obviously

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00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: can't rule out, but you never know. Unlikely. Trump seems

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Speaker 1: to be doing. He honestly looks skinnier than he did

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Speaker 1: while he was in office, the healthier lifestyle, It looks

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00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: much better than you know, when it was in the

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Speaker 1: White House. The sun seems to agree with him. So

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Speaker 1: given all of that, you know, you just have to

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Speaker 1: assume that he's probably gonna run. I don't see a

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Speaker 1: world that he would be him. That being said, I do,

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Speaker 1: if I was him, I would run. I don't think

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00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 1: that you don't have a chance, like you're gonna be

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00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: much older. The real lesson is that politics is a

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00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: moment game, but you also risk you know, being dramatic

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00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: or losing, I don't losing and humiliating that I don't

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00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: see it. Because if you if you run, then you

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00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: become persona non grata to the whole to Trump and

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00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: the whole Trump move it movement, and that you know,

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00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: for closes any sort of administration position. I mean, that's

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00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: just you know, then you're really spelling your political death.

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00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: Whereas if you stay out, then you can live to

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00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 1: fight another day in you know, the next the next

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00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: go round. So I don't know. We'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: All right. Let's move on to the Washington Post. WAPO

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Speaker 1: in disarray. All right, So we had you guys just

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Speaker 1: a brief overview. We had two big stories that happened.

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Speaker 1: Number one was Taylor Lorenz. So she smeared two different YouTubers,

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Speaker 1: Legal Bites and I think the Umbrella Guy to Legal Bites,

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Speaker 1: who we had here on our channel. She's a member

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Speaker 1: kind of law Tube. Taylor Lorenz basically smeared her and

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Speaker 1: him and said that they were grifting off of the

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Speaker 1: Amber Herd trial and insinuated that they were doing so

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Speaker 1: purely for money. And then she wrote that without contacting them.

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Speaker 1: She put though in the story that she had contacted

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Speaker 1: them for comment. Now, both Legal Bites and the Umbrella

1131
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: Guy were able to prove that that was not true,

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Speaker 1: and there was a messy correction that was issued. Taylor

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Speaker 1: Lorenz officially then comes out and says, it wasn't me,

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Speaker 1: it was my editor. Oh, it's never her fault. Is

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00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: it's never her fault that she's lying and gets caught

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Speaker 1: to being on professional online and as a journalist. Is

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Speaker 1: it very interesting? So? Okay? Eric Wemple, the media critic

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Speaker 1: over at the Post. He's done a good job of this.

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Speaker 1: He begins taking fire at his own paper. So here's

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Speaker 1: his little investigation. Let's put this up there on the screen.

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Speaker 1: So Taylor Lorenz said an editor was to blame. Is

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Speaker 1: that okay? So here's what's really interesting. What he points

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00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: out is that not only was this against crystal Washington

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00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: Post policy in order to blame editors for a mistake,

1145
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: but it also whenever this happens. What he's pointing to

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00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: is that not only does she violate the internal policy,

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00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: but that the current investigation that he's done reveals that

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00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: the editor's note at the top of the story still

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00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: maintains a material falsehood. So let's put this up there

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00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: from Glenn Greenwald, which he shows that the latest editor's

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00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: note still contains a demonstrable material falsehood because they point

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00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: out that, by Lorenz's own account, she didn't contact either

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Speaker 1: YouTuber for comment until after the story, a circumstance which

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00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: is in conflict with the current editor's note. Now, when

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00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: Wemple actually asked the Washington Post for clarification, they said,

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00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: if the Post can't nail down the facts in an

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00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: editor's note, where else should we trust it to do, so,

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00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: they said. Quote that stands as is, we won't be

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Speaker 1: able to get into what the internal discussions are. So

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Speaker 1: I think that that is very extraordinary because and this

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Speaker 1: is what he says, according to three sources, in his meeting,

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Speaker 1: one reporter asked the editor of the Washington Post, editor

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Speaker 1: in chief Sally Busby, saying that the colleagues had learned

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Speaker 1: that she had offered this new editor a job and

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Speaker 1: then rescinded the offer, and as a result, she didn't

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Speaker 1: deny that timeline. So now a guy is basically going

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Speaker 1: to lose his job as a result of the story.

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Speaker 1: It's not at all clear, Crystal, whether this is that

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Speaker 1: editor's fault at all, and whether Taylor Lorenz lied to

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Speaker 1: her own editor and is throwing this guy under the bus.

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Speaker 1: So isn't it a basic journalistic practice to reach out

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Speaker 1: to people for comment? Yeah, well, if you're going to

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01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: mention somebody in a story, and you're especially going to

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01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: make an insinuation like that, you absolutely have to. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I don't see how this, even her expedition doesn't.

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01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: Even if it is true that the editor inserted this, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the editor inserted it because they assumed you did your

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01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: damn job, it actually reached out to these people, but

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01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: you didn't. So then to just like throw the editor

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Speaker 1: under the bus like that, I think is I don't know,

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01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: that's pretty gross. Wemple even says that the way he

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01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: phrases it is blaming editors can be a craven act. Yes,

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01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: so he doesn't come right out and say this was

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01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: a craven act, but he says this can be a

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01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: craven act. But yeah, I think the larger issue here,

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Speaker 1: which is an organizational issue and not specific to Taylor Lorenz,

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Speaker 1: is your correction and you're they now have labeled it

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01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: an editor's note. It's still wrong. Yeah, it's still a lie.

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Speaker 1: And not only are you not explaining that to the public,

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Speaker 1: your own media reporter is like like, hey, this is

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01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: not right, and they're like, no comment. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: so he puts it in exactly the right way. Why

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Speaker 1: does this matter? I mean, this is like kind of

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Speaker 1: a knit, you know, this little detail on this one

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Speaker 1: story and the timeline of when they were reaching out

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Speaker 1: to you for correction. But it does sort of raise

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Speaker 1: this foundational question if we're supposed to be relying on

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Speaker 1: you for the facts. And if you can't, after multiple revisions,

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Speaker 1: come to the actual truth about something like this, like

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Speaker 1: that does undercut your credibility on literally everything else you're

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Speaker 1: publishing in your paper. Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean really,

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01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: what he's pointing to is that, look, if we can't

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Speaker 1: even count on you guys to fix the editor's note properly,

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Speaker 1: then how can we count on you to tell us

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Speaker 1: the truth? And I think the truth is see what

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Speaker 1: I did there is that you can't you can't them

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Speaker 1: to tell them? Yeah, the truth. I mean Lorenz herself

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Speaker 1: at this point has been clowned herself to a degree

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Speaker 1: which is unfathomable. You know, in her short tenure at

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post, she doxes the lives of TikTok woman.

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Speaker 1: Then she comes out and breaks the news that the

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Speaker 1: Disinformation Governance Board is shutting down, but she frames it

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Speaker 1: as a result of bad faith campaigns. She's not able

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Speaker 1: to do any actual reporting. And this is just the

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Speaker 1: latest example, which is that she's going after defending the

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Speaker 1: integrity of a Can you imagine using your platform or

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Speaker 1: the Post to defend the integrity of Amber Heerd? Like,

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Speaker 1: why that you know that that particular article that we

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Speaker 1: had legal by photograph. It really pissed me off because

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Speaker 1: the article specifically went after these couple of creators who

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Speaker 1: you know, extensively covered the herd depth trial, which we

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Speaker 1: did not. But by implicitly she's going after the entire

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Speaker 1: independent media and the law term. I mean that's picular, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's but that's the whole implication is that

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Speaker 1: if you're operating in these non traditional areas, it's just

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Speaker 1: a grift. You can't be trusted. She talks in that

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Speaker 1: column about how you don't have journalistic standards, in the

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Speaker 1: same column where she herself is caught lying and multiple,

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Speaker 1: multiple times violating journalistic standards. She has the gal to

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Speaker 1: all these independent creators they don't have journalistic standards. So

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Speaker 1: it really that column was part of her war against

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Speaker 1: independent creators, and that's why it pissed me off so much.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of the overall context, uh, for which

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Speaker 1: you know, this whole thing plays out against and she's

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01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: so slobby. There's also now there's leaks coming out that

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Speaker 1: I think Wemple sort of alludes to about how within

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post people are also getting really frustrated with

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Speaker 1: her too, because she's this big name star reporter brought

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Speaker 1: in with like a splashy press release and all of

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01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: that stuff, and then she's making these extremely basic mistakes

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01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: and making all of them and their work look bad.

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Speaker 1: So I think there's not a lot of love for

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Speaker 1: her with her colleagues at this point. Yeah, not that

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01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: they're going to say anything, especially because I'm going to

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01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: say a damn thing and they're watching their paper just

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01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: basically get completely lit on fire. And that's actually a

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Speaker 1: good transition. Let's go to this next part and let's

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Speaker 1: put this on the screen, which, as we brought you

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Speaker 1: the drama regarding Felicia Somnez, well, she has finally been

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Speaker 1: fired by the Washington Post. She was fired over email

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. Here's what they said. Somnez was told by

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Speaker 1: the Post that her employment was ending immediately, quote for

1253
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: misconduct that includes insubordination, maligning your coworkers online, and violating

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Speaker 1: the Post standards on workplace, collegiality and inclusivity. The email

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Speaker 1: said that she had public attempts to question the motive

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Speaker 1: of your co journalists. We cannot allow you to continue

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Speaker 1: to work as a journalist representing the Washington Post. So look,

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Speaker 1: if you ask me, it was far too late that

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Speaker 1: this even happened. She did tremendous amount of damage to

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Speaker 1: the institution while she was there. I think we should

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Speaker 1: really go back to the timeline, which is that Felicia

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Speaker 1: Somnez spent an entire week maligning the integrity of her

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Speaker 1: colleagues on Twitter, and she was told repeatedly not to

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Speaker 1: do so. Her person that she maligned, Dave Weigel. His

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Speaker 1: crime of the century was retweeting the stupid joke which

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Speaker 1: was every girl is by you just have to figure

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Speaker 1: out if it was polar or sexual. Well, he found

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Speaker 1: out which ones that he works with over there, and

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Speaker 1: he was fired for I mean suspended for that without

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Speaker 1: pay for an entire month. An entire month without pay.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean, nobody can go a month without

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Speaker 1: a paycheck. And that was his major transgression. She was

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Speaker 1: never disciplined until she flagrantly violated internal policy over and

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Speaker 1: over and over again, and she encouraged. You know, the

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Speaker 1: worst thing to me is just this insubordination amongst their staff.

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Speaker 1: Two guys in particular, two people in particular, one of

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Speaker 1: them Brianna Muir, who, I explained her colleague accidentally referred

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Speaker 1: to her as Brionna Taylor in a tweet three months ago,

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Speaker 1: and she emailed that staff wide and said that that

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Speaker 1: was part of a harassment campaign which made it difficult

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Speaker 1: to do her job because three months ago somebody mistakenly

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Speaker 1: referred to her by the wrong name. Deleted the tweet

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Speaker 1: and per usually apologized for it. And another one was

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Speaker 1: this twenty two year old Stanford Grad Holden who we've

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Speaker 1: talked about Holden and is eating disorder. But Holden also

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Speaker 1: is online counting the likes of his colleagues and maligning

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Speaker 1: them essentially as racist, saying, why are white males coming

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Speaker 1: out against Felicia Samnez whenever she's speaking up? And that's why,

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Speaker 1: you know, this behavior really just needs to get nipped

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Speaker 1: in the bud. And I just think it's really gross

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Speaker 1: to watch all of this happen because this is the

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Speaker 1: second most powerful newspaper in the country. That's what we

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Speaker 1: just talked about in the tail of the Rent's block.

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Speaker 1: Why does it matter when you can't trust some mainstream

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Speaker 1: media and you see so clearly how insane these people are.

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Speaker 1: That's not a good thing. You know, we don't revel

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Speaker 1: in that over here. I wish it we didn't have

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Speaker 1: to do this job, but like ya, this is the

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Speaker 1: reason why this all started in the first place. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a big advocate typically for workers

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Speaker 1: being fired, but in this instance, she was truly destroyed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about a toxic work environment that

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Speaker 1: gets thrown around really loosely all the time, but there

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Speaker 1: is no other word for the environment that she was

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Speaker 1: creating over there, and it's completely insane. Go repeatedly. I mean,

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Speaker 1: her timeline was completely unhinged, tweet after tweet after tweet,

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Speaker 1: going after this reporter and that reporter and anyone who

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Speaker 1: dared to say I remember that one person replied just like,

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Speaker 1: please stop, and that set off a whole other firestorm.

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Speaker 1: So eventually the Washington Post comes the right decision there

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Speaker 1: that this person cannot be a part of your organization.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, took him a while. It took him multiple

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Speaker 1: days of her behaving like a complete crazy person and

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Speaker 1: nuking multiple of her colleagues before they ultimately were like,

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Speaker 1: all right, this is not going to work out, and

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Speaker 1: would not be surprised either if she sues them again

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Speaker 1: for being fired. Yeah. Fortunately, so all right, Well, actually

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Speaker 1: not unfortunately, because Bezos should have to pay for allowing

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Speaker 1: this stuff at his newspaper. So actually, Felicia, you go girl,

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Speaker 1: get him, go, get him? All right? So I ready

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Speaker 1: to look at it. Well, I broke one of my

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Speaker 1: cardinal rules on Thursday, in a pit of frustrat never tweet.

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Speaker 1: I'm exaggerating, of course, but I honestly just could not

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Speaker 1: contain myself. We had just done breaking points. My Twitter

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Speaker 1: feed was endless with journalists talking about January sixth community

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Speaker 1: hearings as if it was the most important thing since Watergate,

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Speaker 1: as if it would be a country changing experience. I

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Speaker 1: genuinely felt like I was taking crazy pills. So I

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Speaker 1: returned to my old ways and I punched this out quote.

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Speaker 1: Gas is five dollars a gallon. People genuinely can't imagine

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Speaker 1: giving a shit about these January six hearings. Like any

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Speaker 1: great viral tweet, it both took off and it elicited

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Speaker 1: some very strong reactions. The negative reactions, overwhelmingly by liberals

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Speaker 1: and allies and mainstream media, are actually very revealing, and

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Speaker 1: what do they tell us about what liberals mean when

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Speaker 1: they say democracy? So I thought that we could get

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Speaker 1: into it here first and foremost was this pushback, whatsager

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Speaker 1: people can't multitask? That is a fair question, But have

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Speaker 1: you paid attention to the US government recently. The government

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Speaker 1: actually cannot multitask, and the media especially can't either. In fact,

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Speaker 1: remember our maxim here, the most initious form of media

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Speaker 1: bias is not what they choose to show you, but

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Speaker 1: what they choose not to show you. Every second of airtime, resource, money,

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Speaker 1: time explanations spent on January sixth, by both the Democratic Party,

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Speaker 1: the media, and by Congress is by definition something that

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Speaker 1: could be spent somewhere else. So the current strategy of

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Speaker 1: trying to make this into a big national event is

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Speaker 1: therefore a conscious choice. That was the most practical feedback

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Speaker 1: I received what I thought the most reasonable was. But

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Speaker 1: let's move on to the part that I really want

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Speaker 1: to focus on. Captured in this tweet by Aimon moyldean,

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Speaker 1: he works over at MSNBC. He responded, quote, this is

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Speaker 1: nothing to be proud of as a country. It is

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Speaker 1: an indictment of our priorities. If the price of a

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Speaker 1: gallon of gas is more important than the attempted overthrow

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Speaker 1: of our democracy, Okay, let's put the overwrought language aside.

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Speaker 1: That is an incredibly revealing tweet, because what Aimin is

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Speaker 1: saying is that people like me and perhaps like you,

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Speaker 1: who actually do care more about the price of gas

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Speaker 1: being at sky highlight levels, somehow have our priorities wrong

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Speaker 1: more so than a riot than occurred at the Capitol

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Speaker 1: over sixteen months ago. And what I love most about

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Speaker 1: that is it actually reveals the core mindset of what

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Speaker 1: the overwhelming pushback to me was, what socger thinks the

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Speaker 1: price of gas is more important than democracy. And my

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Speaker 1: response is that if you're trying to make people care

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Speaker 1: about our capital BD democracy more than focusing on the

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Speaker 1: problems that they're actually having in their lives and begging

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Speaker 1: politicians to fix, then you, not me, are the person

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Speaker 1: who is against actual democracy. When I say capital D democracy,

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Speaker 1: I mean it in terms of how it's being used

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Speaker 1: by the press protecting the higher minded institution. It's what

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post loves to put at the top of

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Speaker 1: its paper. Democracy dies in the darkness with Democrats and

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Speaker 1: Biden are always talking about, but what they like to

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Speaker 1: ignore is little de democracy. Democracy as in the people's government,

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Speaker 1: where they make their voices heard through their votes and

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Speaker 1: they attempt being the keyword to get their representatives to

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Speaker 1: act on their Behalfwhelmingly, we see today in the obsession

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Speaker 1: with obsession with January sixth that by focusing on that

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Speaker 1: instead of gas prices and high inflation, the issues that

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Speaker 1: voters continue to tell pollsters and cry out as their

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Speaker 1: number one priority that the US government solve. What the

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Speaker 1: obsession with January sixth shows me is the Democrats are

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Speaker 1: unserious about acting democratically. Let's take Pennsylvania GOP gubernatorial candidate

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Speaker 1: Doug Mastriano. Mastriano is actually crazy, he believes and stop

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Speaker 1: the steal. He pushed a plan to appoint fake electors

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty to try and swing the election. If

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Speaker 1: he's elected governor of Pennsylvania, he gets to appoint the

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State potentially try and change the election results.

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Speaker 1: I agree with the Libs that that is an actual

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Speaker 1: attack on democracy, and yet they don't seem content on

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Speaker 1: trying to persuade people not to vote for him for

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Speaker 1: any reason beyond that. You know why, because while yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think most voters can agree, that sounds pretty crazy.

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Speaker 1: If Doug Mostriano is also out there talking about inflation

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Speaker 1: and gas and rent and cost of living and chaos

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Speaker 1: and people's lives, and the other side is just screaming

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Speaker 1: about what might happen in an election a few years

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Speaker 1: from now. Voters might just take a chance on the

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Speaker 1: guy because one is real and the other is hypothetical.

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Speaker 1: We saw this repeatedly in the twenty sixteen campaign. Hillary's

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Speaker 1: our children are watching ads Trump was vulgar while Trump

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Speaker 1: was out there making a real case. Look, it's turned

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Speaker 1: out to be a fake one, but at least it

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Speaker 1: was for rooting out corruption in Washington, restoring America's trade

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Speaker 1: fairness scheme, restoring American jobs. And voters said, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't particularly care about the tweets, I care about

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Speaker 1: the plan. That's what democracy actually looks like. But to

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Speaker 1: most liberals, the idea of actually trying to win through

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Speaker 1: democratic or at least constitutional means today appears to be

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Speaker 1: a fantasy. If you think Trump and the GOP and

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Speaker 1: Doug Mostreano are such threats to democracy, then beat them

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Speaker 1: through democratic means. Mastriano is the best example. There's no

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Speaker 1: cope for people about the electoral college. In a state

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Speaker 1: wide popular vote election, you either convince voters or you don't,

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Speaker 1: and it's a swing state. The same is the case

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Speaker 1: with many of these Jan six crazies that are GOP

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Speaker 1: nominees across the country. If they win, that is on

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Speaker 1: you for being so pathetic that you cannot convince voters Otherwise.

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Speaker 1: People in Washington and in the media are obsessed with

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Speaker 1: the word democracy, but the reaction to my tweet really

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Speaker 1: showed me is so fake. They are obsessed with high

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Speaker 1: minded discussions of democracy because they have no actual, small

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Speaker 1: d democratic plan or case to make to the American

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Speaker 1: people to solve the most pressing issues before them. The

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Speaker 1: discussions of democracy are really just a catfish to hide

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Speaker 1: the fact that Biden and the Democrats have been in

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Speaker 1: office at this point for eighteen months and todate have

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Speaker 1: done basically nothing about the problems that most people have

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Speaker 1: in their lives. Thus they will be punished. That's democracy.

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Speaker 1: So I'll end as I began with the same sentiment.

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Speaker 1: When the people in power are not doing anything about

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Speaker 1: the most pressing problems in your life, then who gives

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Speaker 1: a shit about an event that sixteen months ago where

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Speaker 1: the facts of what happened were pretty clear as day.

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Speaker 1: Within just a few weeks in the incident, If you

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Speaker 1: actually believe about American democracy, then convince people to vote

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Speaker 1: for you. And if you're too big of a loser

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Speaker 1: to beat Trump or a guy like Mastriano, then sadly

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Speaker 1: that is a pathetic commentary on you and really not

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Speaker 1: on anybody else. So I just really think it was

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Speaker 1: worth going into and if you want to hear my

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Speaker 1: reaction to Sager's monologue, become a premium subscriber today at

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Speaker 1: breakingpoints dot com. Chrissel, what are you taking a look at? Well? Guys.

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Speaker 1: Over the weekend, thirty some members of a white nationalist

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Speaker 1: group were arrested after packing into the back of a

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Speaker 1: U haul wearing matching uniforms, toting riot shields and at

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Speaker 1: least one smoke grenade, and headed to a Pride event.

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Speaker 1: Last week, a man called nine to one one on

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Speaker 1: himself after showing up at a Supreme Court justice house

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Speaker 1: with a gun, a knife, zip ties, and according to himself,

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Speaker 1: an intent to murder set over a looming abortion decision

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Speaker 1: and gun debates fueled his crazed actions, and this week

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Speaker 1: hearing's will continue into the events of January sixth, when

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Speaker 1: thousands of conspiracy adult Trump supporters stormed in the capital

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Speaker 1: with violent delusions of overturning the lawful election results of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Now, Listen, every era has their wrongdoers, their villains,

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Speaker 1: their criminals, the conspiracy theorists, their cranks, their chaos agents,

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Speaker 1: all of that. But it's kind of hard to deny

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Speaker 1: looking at the landscape that the American project is coming

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Speaker 1: apart at the seams. Taken together with one hundred other

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Speaker 1: signs that I could point to, these are dispatches from

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Speaker 1: a fracturing nation. Try to take a step back from

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Speaker 1: the details of the riots and the rising political violence

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Speaker 1: of existential cultural battles. Try to view all of this

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Speaker 1: as if you're an outside observer or say, a historian.

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Speaker 1: It's really not hard to figure out what's going on

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Speaker 1: that has led us to this point of precarious rupture.

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Speaker 1: The middle class has been hollowed out, inequality has grown

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Speaker 1: to its most extreme levels in history. The means of

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Speaker 1: peacefully redressing this through democratic representation have been almost completely

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Speaker 1: closed as politicians have become increasingly captured by a thin

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Speaker 1: slice of elites, and as a struck sure of our

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Speaker 1: existing institutions locks in power for a minority faction. Then

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Speaker 1: add in the specific details of our current economic stress,

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Speaker 1: the high inflation driven by the most critical items for

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01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: working class families gas, food, rent, And you have got

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01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: yourself a real powder keg. Now the signs of our

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01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 1: failing state are all over our economic data. We call

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01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: ourselves origination. Of course, in certain ways we are. But

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01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: why then do we have the highest level of credit

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01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 1: card debt in history? Why then do half of all

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01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 1: families struggle to feed their kids. Why do so many

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01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: struggle to afford even a minor emergency. Why do we

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01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 1: cycle through bubbles and recessions at an accelerating clip. The

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01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 1: signs of our failing state are also written all over

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01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: our communities and all over our streets, the tense cities

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01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: within every city, the rise in senseless violence, the epidemic

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01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,440
Speaker 1: of addiction murdering tens of thousands of our fellow citizens.

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01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: The mechanisms of our democracy are failing. But even an

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01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: authoritarian leader with no pretext of democracy might struggle to

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01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: survive concentrations of wealth as extreme as the ones that

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Speaker 1: we are witnessing. But upending the political order through mass

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01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: action will that requires the masses to be on one

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01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: side against the system and its representatives, which have created

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01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,719
Speaker 1: this intolerable situation, the Wall Street financiers, the corporate CEOs,

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01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: their media enablers, and the politicians who serve as their

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01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: tools to keep all of the games flowing to the top.

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately we aren't all on one side, are we. Instead,

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01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: we're kept intentionally divided against each other by lines of race, gender, education, status, geography,

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01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: anything else they can come up with to keep people

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01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 1: from seeing the problem. And the solution, clearly problem is

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01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 1: in the Karen who didn't wear a mask, the kid

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01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: you grew up with U post QAnon memes on Facebook,

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01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: the desperate immigrant or the trans teenager competing in sports,

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01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: or things that are hopelessly fixed like the country's immutable

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01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 1: foundational sin of racism. And the further we get down

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01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: this road a failed state, oligarc owned empire declining dread,

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01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: the more unhinged our fellow citizens do start to behave,

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01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: making the plutocrat's message that the real problem is with

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01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: the character of your fellow countrymen a much more plausible explanation.

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01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: They threaten violence, they rte, they believe in goofy conspiracies

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01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 1: with the zealousness of religious faith. They dabble in authoritarianism,

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01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 1: and a cult like belief in a favored strong man

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01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 1: leader who will punish the wrongdoers and set things right.

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01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: And so that's the backdrop that I view the January

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01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,839
Speaker 1: six hearings against. It's not that I'm not disturbed. I am.

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01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: It's not that I don't believe the people involved a

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01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: personal agency and deserve accountability. They do. It's actually that

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01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 1: I'm so alarmed by the state of the country. I

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01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,759
Speaker 1: think we've got to act to deal with the underlying

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01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 1: conditions driving the spiral of violence and despair, and we

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01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 1: have to act urgently. We are headed in a truly

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01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 1: dire direction. Jeremy six is a symptom, and when you're

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01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 1: dealing with a grave illness, you do deal with the symptoms.

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01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, We've done some of that. The

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01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,799
Speaker 1: Justice Department has charged some eight hundred people. Media outlets

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01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 1: have dune into the details of what transpired, compiling footage

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01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 1: into montages of the most violent and menacing acts of

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01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: the day. The government's laying out in detail with some

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01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: of the main instigators from the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys,

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01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 1: did to help the lawlessness. But what you've really got

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01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,759
Speaker 1: to focus your energy on is the root of the problem,

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01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: and it's really not complicated. The problem is a wildly

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01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 1: unfair distribution of resources. America has always gotten away with

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01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,839
Speaker 1: a higher level of inequality than other countries because, frankly,

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01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: we have a lot of powerful mythology around our meritocracy

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01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: and the American dream. We convince people that if they

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01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: were struggling, it was because of their own failing, not

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01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: a problem that required collective action and government redress. This

1542
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: was as much of a fairytale story as the mythology

1543
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: of like divine right or of the cast system, all

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01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,799
Speaker 1: human inventions to explain radically unfair distributions of wealth and income.

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01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, there are plenty who believe

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01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,600
Speaker 1: in the powerful American fairy tale still. But after the

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01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: banks destroyed the economy and got bailed out, regular Americans

1548
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 1: got the shaft, it became a lot harder not to

1549
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: see through those layers of bullshit that we've been fed

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01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: for years. So that's why I do roll my eyes

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01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: a little bit at the January six hearings. Where is

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01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 1: this energy for the corporate criminals jacking up prices just

1553
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: because they can't Where's this level of political outrage and

1554
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: the twenty million viewers for the walls street villains buying

1555
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: up entire communities and pushing more people onto the street.

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01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: Where is the multi media production for the crooks who

1557
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: knowingly profited off of creating a mass addiction epidemic over

1558
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 1: the fossil fuel executives who have known for decades about

1559
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,759
Speaker 1: the climate crisis and lied and covered up the truth.

1560
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: Where is the commission to help us understand how our

1561
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: whole government was captured by the very top and every

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01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 1: institution is run almost exclusively for their benefit. Because guys,

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01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: the future here looks pretty grim, But none of the

1564
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 1: coming clashes, unraveling and potential violence, none of that's written

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01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: in stone. We know how to handle moments just like

1566
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: this because we have a nation have done it before.

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01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 1: We did it in a similar moment of instability, when

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01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: fascism was on the march around the globe. We responded

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01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 1: forging an entirely new economic order here at home, the

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01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 1: New Deal Order. Roosevelt was explicit that his goal was

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01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,759
Speaker 1: to be radical for a generation in order to rescue

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01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: the country and prevent revolution. And it worked. Back by

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01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,799
Speaker 1: labor activists and trade unions and the masses. We created

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01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 1: decades of solid working class middle class stability. Oh, it

1575
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: had plenty of imperfections, from outright discrimination to programs that

1576
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: were poorly conceived to overreach in the seventies that led

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01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: to a massive backlash that we are living with today.

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01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 1: But if we want to avoid another January sixth, it

1579
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 1: is no mystery what we need to do. We need

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01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 1: to change how the resources are divided to give the

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01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:24,759
Speaker 1: working class some personal, family, and community stability, a new

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01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: new deal era that once again rebalances the economic scales.

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01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 1: The path of this outcome looks like electing truly dedicated

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01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 1: reformers who were actually committed to this end. Not those

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01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: who'll say the right thing, but they're really mostly committed

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01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: to whatever their side is in the culture war. We

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01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: need a robust union movement that provides a mechanism for

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01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 1: power in the workplace and an organized method for holding

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01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: those elected officials accountable. We need media that is beholden

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01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: to the masses and not to the corporate crooks. We

1591
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: need you to remember who the real enemies are, and

1592
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 1: the LARPing revolutionaries at the Capitol are not primetime in

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01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,599
Speaker 1: that story at all. Actually they're only a national side show.

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01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 1: So that's my own view of why. And if you

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01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: want to hear my reaction to Crystal's monologue, become a

1596
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: premium subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot com. We did want

1597
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 1: to go through what they talked about at the Jerry

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01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 1: six good because there were some new revelations and you know,

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01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: I think it's important you know what people in Washington

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01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 1: here are talking about and focusing on. So the structure

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01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: of the January sixth committee hearings, if you didn't watch,

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01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,480
Speaker 1: you have the chair Carson Bennie Thompson from the Democrats,

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01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: and on the first night it was Liz Cheney who

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01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 1: actually did a lot of the talking, sort of laid

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01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 1: out comprehensively the presentation for their last night. One of

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01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: the big sort of revelations here was how direct then

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01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: Attorney General Bill Barr was in disputing the election claims

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01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: and in his words saying that he viewed them as bullshit.

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01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to that. Three discussions with the

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01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 1: President that I can record, one was on November twenty third,

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01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: one was on December first, and one was on December fourteenth.

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01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 1: And I've been through sort of the give and take

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01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 1: of those discussions and in that context, I made it

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01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 1: clear I did not agree with the idea of saying

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01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: the election was stolen and putting out this stuff which

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01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 1: I told the president was bullshit, and you know, I

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01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: didn't want to be a part of it. And that's

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01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that went into me deciding to leave.

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01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: When I did, I observed, I think it was on

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01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: December first, that you know, how can we You can't

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01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 1: live in a world where where the incumbent administration stays

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01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:42,799
Speaker 1: in power based on its view unsupported by specific evidence

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01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: that the election, that there was fraud in the election.

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01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: So listen, Bill Barr, no hero, He did nothing to

1625
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: like really you know, take the case public. And you know, Cusai,

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01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 1: he came on, he gave that statement. Remember he said

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01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: that we found no evidence. I think I think, yeah.

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01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 1: I also think he's sort of extraordinarly ideologically evil. This

1629
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: is a guy who really believes in like an old

1630
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: power executive, so up to the point of apparently you know,

1631
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: when you actually decide I'm just gonna take and hold

1632
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: onto power. But what's really significant about this is the

1633
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: fact that this shows there were people directly telling Trump

1634
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,839
Speaker 1: this stuff is completely bonkers, Like this is literally bullshit,

1635
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: because there was a question at the time of like,

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01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: does he really believe this or is he you know,

1637
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 1: is he really sort of down the conspiracy rabbit hole

1638
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 1: enough to be buying what Sidney Powell or whoever is

1639
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:42,600
Speaker 1: telling him? And I think that there were multiple indications

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01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 1: that no, he knew that he was lying, He knew

1641
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: that this was fake, and he was just leading his

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01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: followers along because he was willing to hold onto power

1643
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 1: at any cost. Yeah, and I think he does believe

1644
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: it now it doesn't or maybe he doesn't. I don't know.

1645
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,719
Speaker 1: I mean, does it really matter what he believes relative

1646
01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,600
Speaker 1: to what he knows at least gets a reaction with

1647
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 1: his own ego can stand. So the other clip that

1648
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: came out of that was his own daughter, Ivanka Trump

1649
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,679
Speaker 1: saying she believed Bill Barr that there was no fraud.

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01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to that. This is the president's

1651
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 1: daughter commenting on Bill Barr's statement that the Department found

1652
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 1: no fraud sufficient to overturn the election. How did that

1653
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 1: affect your perspective about the election? When Turn General Barr

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01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 1: made that statement, it affected my perspective. I respect Attorney

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01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 1: General Bar, so I accepted what he was saying. Okay,

1656
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 1: so the president's daughter says that. But then what was

1657
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 1: particularly funny is that Trump comes out the next day

1658
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 1: and starts on a big truth spree. Let's put this

1659
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 1: up there on the screen now, trashing his own daughter,

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01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 1: saying that she had no idea, she had been checked out,

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01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 1: was not involved in studying the election results, and that

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01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,799
Speaker 1: she had no idea basically what she was talking about.

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01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: So she had long six checked out only trying to

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01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 1: be respectable to Bill Barr in hisney position as Attorney general. Quote,

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01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 1: he sucked for not doing that. So look Trump, you

1666
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: know he'll hold a grudge against anybody if it goes

1667
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 1: against his public view. But don't worry. It's not like

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01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 1: family dinners are going to be awkward now or no,

1669
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,759
Speaker 1: not at all, because what every single time he always

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01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: bows to Ivanka into Jared, Jared'll be right back in

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01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 1: the White House if he wins again. Anyway. So what's

1672
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: happening though on truth social aside from what Trump is

1673
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: pushing back when users on the platform want to talk

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01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 1: about it, Let's put this on the screen. Oh, it

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01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: turns out that they're being suspended for posting about the

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01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 1: January six hearings. And remember this is a quote unquote

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01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 1: free speech platform. They were suspended or quote experiencing technical

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01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: difficulties after they were posting about the January sixth Committee hearing.

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01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: So look, just goes to show you that when they

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01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 1: say free speech, at least over there, what they really

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01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 1: mean is, you know, ability to float election conspiracy. And

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01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm somebody who even thinks that Trump should be on

1683
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 1: Twitter regardless just because he's a sitting president and that

1684
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: Twitter actually did him a great gift by taking him over.

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01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 1: But as all as just funny, just so hew fully

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Speaker 1: of it just shows you, I mean, you know, it

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Speaker 1: goes back to my favorite Mike Linnell, my po guy,

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Speaker 1: when he was starting his social media platforms. I don't

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01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 1: know if that ever even really happened. It was like

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Speaker 1: the free speech that means no profanity, no taking the

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01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 1: lord's name in Van and was like, that's not really.

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01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 1: I don't think our definitions of free speech are quite

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01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 1: the same. And they do have the same line in

1694
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: like the Truth Social terms of service as every other

1695
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 1: social media site, they say, we reserve the right to,

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01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 1: in our sole discretion, without notice or liability, deny access

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01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: to and use of the service, including blocking certain IP

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01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 1: addresses to any Maria's person for any reason or for

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01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: no reason. So they want to, you know, preserve their

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01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 1: ability to monitor and crack down on speech, just in

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01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 1: ways that they find to be favorable to I think

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01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: that's right. And so look take ways, I mean, the

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01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 1: bill bar I don't know what were you takeaways from it?

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01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the clips are interesting. It's always nice to

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01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 1: see that people are out there saying that they told

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01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: Trump the truth. But now we're going to have I

1707
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 1: think there's ten more of these things. In terms of

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01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: the ratings we were talking about this, I'm still not

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01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 1: sure where I end up. So twenty million appears like

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01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 1: a lot of people, but apparently the actual ratings on

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01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 1: the major network news was much lower than normal for

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01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: their primetime At the same time, the cable ratings were

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01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: actually much higher on MSNBC and CNN, MSNBC garnering like

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01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 1: four million to CNN like two point six. Fox didn't

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01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 1: end up showing it, but then ABC, NBC and all

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01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 1: the other actually carried to hearings live in the primetime sector,

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01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 1: but their ratings were down, So I don't really know

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01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,719
Speaker 1: whether it was high or low. This is the number overall.

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01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 1: Number twenty million is in the ballpark of events like

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01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 1: a Sunday night football game. I mean, that's a lot

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01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: of it's not terribly listen, there are very few events that, like,

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01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 1: we just don't have the media ecosystem now where it's

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01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 1: like all Americans tur tune in for this thing. So

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01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 1: certainly AM ASSEMBC and CNN. Their ratings were very high

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01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 1: for of course that's the low bar, but very high

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01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: in comparison to what they normally ultimately get. I did

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01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: think the way Fox handled it was really gross. I

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01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw this. I didn't want so

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01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't carry the hearings are or whatever.

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01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 1: That's the right, there's plenty of other places you can

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01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 1: watch them. But not only that, they didn't during the

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01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 1: whole two hours of the hearings, they just randomly didn't

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01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: go to commercial break. And you know how extraordinary that

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01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 1: is in cable news, because they didn't want people to

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01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: turn away from their non January sixth coverage to go

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01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,799
Speaker 1: to the January six coverage. And remember, I mean Fox

1737
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 1: News personalities are directly involved in this thing, especially Sean

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01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 1: Hannity and so for them to just have like, you know,

1739
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: blanket complete ban on it and you know, really go

1740
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 1: out of their way to try to make sure their

1741
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 1: viewers don't see anything coming out of it. I do

1742
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 1: think that's I do think that's that's just weird. I mean, look,

1743
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 1: no matter what. But by the way, look, you know,

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01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 1: I don't think people care. I actually said that. I

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01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 1: still watch it because it's my job. I mean, if

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01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 1: you're like the Live News channel, you kind of have

1747
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 1: to watch it or like you kind of have to

1748
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 1: show it just because it empirically is like the news

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01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 1: of the day here in Washington. I'm look, we cover

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01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 1: news very differently here, you know, we're summarizing things where

1751
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 1: people who get their news in a very non traditional way,

1752
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 1: but they're locked into a model, so very different. So yeah,

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01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 1: I definitely. I mean, and it's your own talent and

1754
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 1: Laura Ingram was involved, Yeah that's true. I mean, your

1755
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 1: own talent is implicated and you have nothing to say

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01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 1: about it, and yeah, that's that's something. And they also

1757
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 1: they would like they'd have some of the videos that

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01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 1: are like playing a vo in the back end or

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01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 1: whatever and whenever anything that was violent because some of

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01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 1: the narratives on Fox are like, oh, they were just

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01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 1: tours and whatever like that. Clearly it was there was

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01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: there was some violent aggression happen, windows being broken and

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01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 1: people getting bloodied and you know, officers being knocked in

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01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 1: conscious and that sort of thing. So anytime there was

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01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: any kind of violence that was being played in the hearings,

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01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 1: they would cut away from it. Yeah, okay, so I

1767
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 1: mean it was really maximum level propaganda for the fuck

1768
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 1: just show the damn people still won't care, you know,

1769
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: I know, I know. So anyway, that's that's the overall view.

1770
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 1: I think tonight testifying is Bill Stepien. Remember he was well,

1771
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, so apparently his wife is having a baby,

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01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:22,799
Speaker 1: so he can't. Oh really just happened Trump campaign manager.

1773
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: They were planning on having on And I think the

1774
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: idea of the narrative they want to talk through tonight

1775
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 1: is like how much Trump knew going into it and

1776
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,600
Speaker 1: kind of continuing down this path of like he was

1777
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 1: well informed about the fact that on election night that

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01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 1: he was going to lose, that he didn't have a

1779
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 1: chance in spite of all the you know, lies that

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01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 1: he's told since Yeah, I mean, everybody they keep trying

1781
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 1: to set it up. Listen, we all know the whole story,

1782
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: which is that Trump denied the truth, said he won

1783
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: the election, encouraged these nut jobs like Sidney Powell and

1784
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 1: Juliani to prosecute their idiot case on national television. Then

1785
01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 1: on January sixth, a bunch of people came here to

1786
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 1: Washington and he said some version of we're going down

1787
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 1: to the Capitol. You can parse the language however you want.

1788
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 1: That's what he said. And then people went there and

1789
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 1: they broke into the Capitol, and there's a lot of

1790
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the most basic story of all time.

1791
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: I really don't know what there is to make. They're

1792
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,759
Speaker 1: like Trump, We're going to make the case that Trump

1793
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:18,679
Speaker 1: personally incided it. Yeah, no shit, of course he did.

1794
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 1: They never would have gone in there. Now. Look, there's

1795
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 1: a democratic means through which you could decide that you're

1796
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 1: going to do something about that. It's called impeachment. They tried,

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01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: even at the height of the emotional case, and it

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01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 1: didn't happen. So you think the Justice Department is going

1799
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 1: to bring charges. It's like, this is why I find

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01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 1: the whole thing maddening. We already know everything there is

1801
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 1: to know did people act shamefully? Yes? Do people care?

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01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: Apparently not? And look, there's not much you can do

1803
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: about that, Like there's just not trying to convince people

1804
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 1: and unearth all this stuff. It's like there's not a

1805
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 1: broader crime in the way that there was with Watergate,

1806
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: like we just knew. Really need to sit with the

1807
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 1: fact that the Democratic strategy post January sixth to sort

1808
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 1: of like take down Trump and make sure he can

1809
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,799
Speaker 1: never be president again was to focus on the events

1810
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 1: of January sixth, to not focus on delivering materially for people,

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01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,679
Speaker 1: and also to get him kicked off of these social

1812
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 1: media platforms that has led to him having a higher

1813
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 1: approval rating now than he did for January six I mean,

1814
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 1: that's like you need to sit with that and figure

1815
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 1: out why did that happen? Like what is it in

1816
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 1: your response that led to that reaction? And the answer

1817
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:35,719
Speaker 1: like the American people just suck is not an acceptable one,

1818
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 1: Like that one's not going to work out because this

1819
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:40,600
Speaker 1: is the country you got and it's not apparent to

1820
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 1: me that the character of the American people is like,

1821
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 1: you know, degraded from other countries or from other times

1822
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 1: in our past. So you know, I just think that

1823
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 1: requires some reflection. Ultimately, there is one path out of

1824
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 1: the terrible mess that we find ourselves in today, and

1825
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 1: that is to actually materially deliver for people. That's it,

1826
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 1: That's that's the job. And if you aren't doing that,

1827
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 1: then yes, you are enabling people who are to fairies,

1828
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 1: who are liars, who are willing to take power. By

1829
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 1: all those things, you are enabling them to be put

1830
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 1: back into power. So yeah, that's how I feel about

1831
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 1: those things. I don't think it's quite right to say

1832
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 1: the American people don't care about January six. I think

1833
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: it's because I do think that there's a lot of

1834
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 1: interest in like, you know, the the day was so crazy,

1835
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 1: and how do we come to this? But in terms

1836
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 1: of how they're going to vote and what is impacting

1837
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: them in their day to day lives, we know the

1838
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 1: answer because they never tell posters January six and their time. Yeah. Look,

1839
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:43,600
Speaker 1: and when I say people don't care, I mean they

1840
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 1: don't care as much of course. I mean, look, I cared,

1841
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, I was horrified by it. But it's just

1842
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 1: difficult to try and parse that when we're talking about

1843
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 1: material conditions for people's lives. People vote accordingly. They're telling

1844
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 1: you that over and over again, and I just I

1845
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 1: will never not get hung up on We know the fact,

1846
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:04,560
Speaker 1: it's not difficult to figure out. Most people are very familiar.

1847
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 1: So at this point you can either move on. We

1848
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 1: can issue like a final report, you know, with the timeline.

1849
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:13,719
Speaker 1: I think that's great, but in terms of time spent,

1850
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 1: it would be you know, a hell of a lot

1851
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 1: better spent. This kind of reminds me of Benghazi, which

1852
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 1: is Republicans focused so much on Benghazi, like, you know

1853
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 1: what happened in these four hours? How about the fact

1854
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:25,680
Speaker 1: that Libya was falling apart? You know, it's like that,

1855
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 1: how come there was no actual investigation of that. They

1856
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 1: became obsessed with this tiny thing and actually blew the

1857
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 1: political opportunity to make the case that the administration had

1858
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 1: bungled and destroyed this country and had fallen apart, becoming

1859
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 1: a vacuum of terrorists and weapons are flying into Syria.

1860
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 1: It's like focusing on one thing at the expense of

1861
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,799
Speaker 1: a much bigger picture, except this time it's our own country,

1862
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 1: like focusing the January sixth instead of like, how exactly

1863
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 1: the country gets to this point? Nobody wants to talk

1864
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 1: about that, So there you go. Yeah right, less comfortable,

1865
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 1: all right. Thank you all so much for watching. We

1866
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. We brought you as much as we could.

1867
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 1: The January sixth. Tomorrow we'll have a guest back to

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01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 1: our regularly scared programming. Although apparently it looks like the

1869
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 1: Supreme Court abortion decision could break, so who knows, maybe

1870
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: tomorrow could be a big show in it's right. Thank

1871
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 1: you all so much for watching. We really appreciate it

1872
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 1: for supporting us. Like we said, we got a big

1873
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 1: announcement this week that is coming up about our live

1874
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 1: tour and how people can start buying tickets. It's going

1875
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 1: to be a lot of fun and some other fun

1876
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 1: things that will be rolling out as well. And we'll

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01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 1: see you all tomorrow. Love you guys, See you all tomorrow.