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Speaker 1: for listening to the Herd Podcast. Let's take a deep

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Speaker 1: breath talk about something much more positive. A World Series

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Speaker 1: which I think is going to be really competitive. Everybody

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Speaker 1: thinks the Dodgers, Oh there, Toronto, Vlad Springer starting pitching,

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Speaker 1: home field advantage Toronto is a handful, and Dave Roberts,

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Speaker 1: manager of the Dodgers, is joining us live. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting. We all know in baseball. Good to see

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Speaker 1: you again, Skip, Great to see you Davis Alas we

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Speaker 1: all know in baseball that you know, momentum is the

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Speaker 1: next day's pitcher. But there are little bits of wisdom

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Speaker 1: you can take. Even though every postseason run is different.

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Speaker 1: Last year you guys were up against it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can remember bullpen games against the Podres and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure the Dodgers are getting.

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Speaker 2: Out of this series. You've been more dominant this year.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything, though, Dave, you can take from last

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Speaker 1: year's playoff run little notes or bits of wisdom and say, guys,

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Speaker 1: remember that from last year to this year.

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Speaker 3: You know what? I think what it comes down to.

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Speaker 4: And I think a lot of people talk about I

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Speaker 4: absolutely agree with your momentumus next day starting pitcher, and

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Speaker 4: certainly the Blue Jays have got some momentum.

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Speaker 3: I feel we've got momentum.

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Speaker 4: I think what I've taken away is the urgency piece

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Speaker 3: To the urgency piece?

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Speaker 4: And I think the way I frame it to our

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Speaker 4: guys is we're in a street fight. And I think

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Speaker 4: that when you have that street fight mentality that lends

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Speaker 4: itself to urgency and every pitch, every play, and you know,

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Speaker 4: kind of take the momentum, embrace it and don't let

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Speaker 4: our ball club play, we're playing with that street fighter

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's funny.

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Speaker 1: The Blake Snell Yoshi, So I went on the air

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Speaker 1: full disclosure. I said, I love Dave Roberts. I would

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Speaker 1: have let Snell go because I just want to win

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Speaker 1: the first game of the series. I don't care Yoshi.

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Speaker 1: I said, okay, we got one in the bag.

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Speaker 1: On that, I thought it was really cool for you

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Speaker 1: little bit about that. Because baseball managers, it doesn't It

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Speaker 1: could be you or Aaron Boone, it could be anybody.

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Speaker 1: You guys get criticized for those moments. It's the seventh

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Speaker 1: that's when all of us think we should be manager.

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Speaker 1: What is that guy doing for you? You mentioned that

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Speaker 1: you were watching Snell or you watch Yosi. Do you

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Speaker 4: It's it's a knowing the player. It's knowing. It's knowing

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Speaker 4: think the great thing Colin about baseball is because if

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Speaker 4: as a fan. Right football, you could probably do it

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Speaker 4: like trusting my players, knowing my players, knowing my coaches.

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Speaker 4: I've got a sound process. But I was right there

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, I said before the playoffs, I said, in

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Speaker 3: And then going to him with me and Andrew.

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Speaker 4: And the pitching guys and saying, hey man, you have

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Speaker 4: This is an opportunity for you to impact twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: It showed really well. And then I think in the

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Speaker 4: other part of it is like when you're looking at

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Speaker 4: So it wasn't really kind of what girl brought us

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Speaker 3: We're going to go with.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, though, Colin, I've

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Speaker 4: And if you can get your best arms, and right now,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny about analytics. The term I always use

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Speaker 2: But there are moments when.

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Speaker 1: You're like I may used to have I may have

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Speaker 1: I mean, you want Snell going. I mean to me,

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Speaker 1: I want you, And I'm like, you wouldn't have let

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Speaker 1: that game's in June, would you not?

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Speaker 4: It's funny is that word analytics And I somehow got

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Speaker 4: I do think that analytics. The place for analytics for

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Speaker 4: end of the day, it plays out. But when you're

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting the Mariners had Julio Rodriguez

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Speaker 1: is interesting how I mean, that's my take is I

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Speaker 4: like anything where you want to continue to evolve and grow.

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Speaker 4: Where when I was growing up as you were, same

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Speaker 4: And I can tell you know, Bruce Bouchie right now

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Speaker 3: So I appreciate you bringing that to life.

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Speaker 4: Joe Davis I talked to the other day, said he's

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Speaker 1: Thanks for giving us fifteen minutes, Dave Roberts, all is

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Speaker 1: I said earlier. There've been hateable teams. I mean you

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Speaker 2: You know, I knew that there was a good reason

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Speaker 10: You mentioned Rounders a couple times today. How many times

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Speaker 10: All right, let's talk Aaron Rodgers colin the big matchup

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Speaker 11: Again, it would feel different if it was going back

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Speaker 8: It didn't for like two or three straight summers.

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Speaker 10: To story number two, and that is the big as

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Speaker 12: But you know, it's still just football, you know obviously,

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Speaker 10: we don't know Josh Allen. He kind of made Josh.

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Speaker 1: New York football teams do not keep coaches, so I

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Speaker 1: don't trust New York football teams. I trust the Bears

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Speaker 1: to keep Ben Johnson. I think it's been established six

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Speaker 1: games in seven games in Ben's the right coach.

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Speaker 10: So the thing about Jackson dart is he runs around

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Speaker 10: a lot like Caleb Colin. But from what I've seen

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Speaker 10: the limited sample size, he's actually throwing the ball and

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Speaker 10: with accuracy when he's scrambling around like Johnny Manziel back there,

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Speaker 10: Caleb runs around and then like he's not making plays

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Speaker 10: with his arm.

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Speaker 8: Dart has surprised me in that effect. Are you noticing this?

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a show we'll show you. Right here, there's

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Speaker 1: one of these completions. I think it's the one right here.

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Speaker 8: Look at that he's got his head, eyes up the

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Speaker 8: whole time.

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Speaker 2: That ball could have been picked.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the truth is in the NFL, unlike college,

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Speaker 1: you are throwing to people that aren't open.

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Speaker 2: That's rare. When you see that video for a TVI

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Speaker 2: that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Most of it is you're throwing to a sideline hoping

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Speaker 1: a guy gets there, or you're throwing in traffic. So

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of NFL throw it like this

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Speaker 1: throw right here is what NFL throws look like a lot,

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Speaker 1: which is you're throwing it. I mean, that's a seed,

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Speaker 1: but you're throwing it to a guy that's covered. So

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Speaker 1: it's just that's why I think playing in a big

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Speaker 1: ten or an SEC, when you can go against NFL

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Speaker 1: first round dvs at Georgia and have lane Kiffin. I

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Speaker 1: think Jackson is a year ahead of schedule. Because of that,

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Speaker 1: I think it's most college football doesn't prepare you great

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Speaker 1: for the NFL, Lane Kiffen plus the SEC does.

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Speaker 8: Final story con Let's go to the NBA fun game

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Speaker 8: last night. Listen.

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Speaker 10: I mentioned last week the Sixers are going to be

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Speaker 10: spicy this season. And if you watched any of this game.

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Speaker 4: VJ.

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Speaker 10: Edgecombe, the young rookie out of Baylor, Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 10: he was incredible. Thirty four points in his debut, the

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Speaker 10: most in a debut since Wilt Chamberlain in nineteen fifty nine.

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Speaker 10: He had fourteen in the first quarter. This kid's got

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Speaker 10: some juice. Oh my gosh, here is Edgecomb talking about

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Speaker 10: his debut in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 13: I must say, it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but you know, I have.

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Speaker 13: A you know, hopefully man, God's will to have a

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Speaker 13: long career ahead of me, you know, and that's what

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Speaker 13: matter most man, longchevity. No, Noan Lebon who's been there

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Speaker 13: for twenty plus years. No, I'm hoping that I can

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Speaker 13: do that one day, you know. But I'm just come

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Speaker 13: and putting in work. But like, it feels great to

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Speaker 13: be have my name Michean Lepine.

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Speaker 1: By the way, now two guards can lead the Sixers. Finally,

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Speaker 1: Darryl Morey can beat guard driven. I'm done with the

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Speaker 1: mbiad stuff. I don't they're different players, but watching him

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Speaker 1: last night, it reminds me they're totally different players. Of

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brown when he was out of cal and went

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Speaker 1: to the Celtics, and I remember watching him once or

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Speaker 1: twice in college and thinking that dude is physically strong

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Speaker 1: and quick. And when that Jalen Brown get out of

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Speaker 1: caw can learn to kind of polish his offensive game. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean this guy again, when you watch him run

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Speaker 1: the floor, look at his body type like he's an

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Speaker 1: he's a pro athlete. I didn't know he dropped thirty four.

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Speaker 1: But what I like about it from the Sixer standpoint is, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Tyrese Maxi and this kid that's the future. Let's stop

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Speaker 1: clinging to finger crossing with em Bead's health. I think

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Speaker 1: that's exciting if you're a Sixer fan.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, embiid on a bit of a minute's restriction colin

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Speaker 10: twenty minutes, he had four points.

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Speaker 8: I believe he was two of nine shooting.

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Speaker 2: It's over likely what's the story on number seventy seven.

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Speaker 8: I'm not aware.

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Speaker 1: Is this spring training? Is he a left handed middle reliever?

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Speaker 1: What's going on here?

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Speaker 8: I don't know, but I'm just telling you.

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Speaker 10: They also got the young kid McCain from Duke. He

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Speaker 10: was injured last year. He's very good. Paul George eventually

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Speaker 10: will come back. I think they're gonna be spicy in

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Speaker 10: the East, which is down a little bit this year,

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Speaker 10: except for of course you Orlando Magic.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what I noticed the first two nights,

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Speaker 1: This was a really good NBA draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I noticed, And you and I've talked

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Speaker 2: about this.

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Speaker 1: This draft this past year is the beginning of a

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Speaker 1: new trend where NIL is allowing some of the really

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Speaker 1: good players now Cooper Flag didn't to stay maybe an

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Speaker 1: extra year, and European stars. College basketball is now buying

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Speaker 1: the best young Spaniards and the best young European players.

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Speaker 1: They talked about shuddering as spanishly, So what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: College basketball now is going to have about ten European

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Speaker 1: players that wouldn't have been in college.

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Speaker 2: Basketball three years ago.

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Speaker 1: They're also getting about six to seven that could go

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Speaker 1: to the NBA maybe second round, late first round, they'll

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Speaker 1: stay in college and be a star at Xavier or

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Speaker 1: whatever the program is. So you're gonna have about fifteen

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Speaker 1: guys going forward that either weren't college basketball players or

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Speaker 1: would have left now in the sport. So college basketball.

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Speaker 1: I noticed it this year in March Madness. The quality

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Speaker 1: of play was better, the games were better. There were

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Speaker 1: more NBA athletes in college basketball, and it's helped the draft.

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Speaker 1: And if you watch the first two nights when you

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Speaker 1: could come into the NBA and drop thirty.

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Speaker 10: Four against the Celtics who have Derek White on the

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Speaker 10: perimeter and good defensive players. I'll just add I love

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Speaker 10: that you're already talking college basketball. The sport tips off

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Speaker 10: next month.

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Speaker 13: I know.

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Speaker 8: Listen, we love baseball. The World Series.

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Speaker 10: Once baseball's done, right to college hoops, Colin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, way you carry that. By the way, here's the story.

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Speaker 1: His favorite number is seven, but that was taken, so

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Speaker 1: he doubled it with seventy seven.

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Speaker 10: Okay, that's a great gambling number as well.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He'll be pitching the and sixth inning for the Phillies

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Speaker 1: next year. He is a middle reliever in spring training.

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Speaker 2: J Mack with the news.

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Speaker 6: Well that's the news and thanks for stopping by The

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Speaker 6: Herdline News.

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Speaker 1: What a day, What a crazy looney day when we

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Speaker 1: have Cash Pateel sound on our show, It's not your

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Speaker 1: typical Thursday live in Chicago.

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Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 6: and noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 6: FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 10: Tomorrow, the World Series begins on Fox as show Hao

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Speaker 10: Tani and the reigning champion Dodgers take on Vlad Junior

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Speaker 10: and the Blue Jays. Game one of the World Series

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Speaker 10: coverage begins tomorrow at seven Eastern on Fox, and before

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Speaker 10: the game, you could check out show Heyo Tani's interview

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Speaker 10: with Kevin Burkhart.

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Speaker 8: Here's a clip.

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Speaker 14: Show now it's talk World Series. Having played in it

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Speaker 14: last year for the first time, show Hey oh Toddy,

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Speaker 14: what lessons did you take from that that you'll apply

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Speaker 14: to this year's World Series?

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Speaker 6: That's stick? What team in Geentha Stick.

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Speaker 8: Team and Agentha City Money thing and the champions the stick?

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Speaker 10: Do you.

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Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 1: I think adding the Blue Jays, Canada's best is going

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Speaker 1: to add to it. I I don't buy for a

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Speaker 1: second it herdspaceball to have a dynasty. NBA has got

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Speaker 1: seven champs in seven years. A lot of the dominant

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Speaker 1: tennis players Jokovic and Nadal uh feder Serena are not

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Speaker 1: dominating tennis. We don't have a dynasty in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We don't have a dominant Alabama team winning every year.

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Speaker 1: It's okay if we have one extremely well run baseball

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Speaker 1: team that is well capitalized crushing and I had I

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Speaker 1: said that the Dave Roberts earlier, I said, do you

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Speaker 1: think the Dodgers are ruining baseball?

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Speaker 4: Baseball viewership is at an all time high. Baseball players

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Speaker 4: are better than they've ever been. We are going to

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Speaker 4: have more eyeballs watching this World Series than ever because

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Speaker 4: of the country of Canada, US and Japan and beyond. Right,

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Speaker 4: So obviously the Dodgers are not ruining baseball. It's in

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Speaker 4: a great state. And I was just kind of taking

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Speaker 4: a dig at these crazy people that say that what

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Speaker 4: we do and I think we do it really well,

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Speaker 4: we're ruining baseball.

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Speaker 3: So that was my little dig.

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Speaker 1: And I you know, listen, there's there's I mean, you

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Speaker 1: watch television, there there is sort of an anti California sentiment,

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's got great weather and the

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Speaker 1: economy's massive. People and I live there are happy. They

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Speaker 1: honked less than traffic, Mountain ranges, desert, it's beautiful. I

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Speaker 1: tried to talk Jmack to coming into Chicago and he

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Speaker 1: wasn't going to have any of it. But we put

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Speaker 1: together a Dodgers ad on why LA is so great.

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Speaker 15: Calif We've got stars in the sky, the stars on

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Speaker 15: the ground, mountains up high, a paradise. Found a beautiful

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Speaker 15: scene where you'll live like a king. Come for the

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Speaker 15: winds and stay for the ring. It's California. Are you jealous?

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Speaker 6: Of course you are California.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I mean it's uh.

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Speaker 8: You need to put that on social media. Collin, come on.

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Speaker 10: That is chum in the water for the social the

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Speaker 10: angry social media mob.

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Speaker 2: That's really funny.

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Speaker 1: You know you and I have always, i would say,

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Speaker 1: kind of pivoting here because the news of the day

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Speaker 1: was the NBA story with the FBI is uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've always felt in this business.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons you and I connected

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Speaker 1: very early, as I always felt even before the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court ruling to legalize gambling in America, it's rolled out,

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Speaker 1: it's legal in almost every state. It's the same we've

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Speaker 1: seen it with cannabis in America. I think there's limitations

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Speaker 1: to both. I don't think kids should be smoking pot

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Speaker 1: every day. I don't think as their brand develops it's good.

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Speaker 1: And I think there are some rules. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: know you and I I'm pro gambling, but they are rules.

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Speaker 1: I'm pro drinking. I don't drink and drive. Society has rules.

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Speaker 1: They don't ask a lot of us. Don't get bombed

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Speaker 1: and step into a car, take uber, don't gamble if

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Speaker 1: you're a professional.

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Speaker 2: Athlete on your own league or you know.

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Speaker 1: The rules are very simple. It's not asking people a lot.

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Speaker 1: So and I see all the moralists today are like,

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Speaker 1: this is what happens. Wet noid doesn't. By the way,

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Speaker 1: gambling has been legalized in Europe forever. You don't have

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Speaker 1: English Premier League players all getting in trouble. These leagues

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Speaker 1: don't ask much. They state very clearly, no betting on this, this, this,

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Speaker 1: you can bet on this, this, this make people culpable again.

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Speaker 1: I am for legal alcohol. There are simple rules. Do

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Speaker 1: not get bombed in a car. There are places and

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Speaker 1: times modify, be a moderate drinker, modify your intake. So

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Speaker 1: you know today is one of those classic days. Is

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Speaker 1: you should feel guilty.

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Speaker 2: Not at all.

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Speaker 1: I was programbling before today, progambling today, progambling tomorrow. There

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Speaker 1: are rules, follow them. The rules explicitly tell you don't

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Speaker 1: do this. And as far as playing poker games downstairs,

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Speaker 1: good luck, I wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's risky. And if you know, if you.

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Speaker 1: If you've made a hundred million in your career and

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Speaker 1: you need poker games to make ends meet, then that's

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Speaker 1: on you and you, that's not on whatever gambling service

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Speaker 1: is paying a network. And I've been totally consistent with this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't have an obsessive personality. Some people do. But

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Speaker 1: the rules are clear and they state specifically, don't do this,

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Speaker 1: don't bet on that.

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Speaker 2: It's up to you to figure it out. Don't touch

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Speaker 2: a hot stove. You learn that when you're five. There

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Speaker 2: are rules in life.

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Speaker 8: What happened to personal responsibility. It's like, listen, I love

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Speaker 8: the NBA.

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Speaker 10: I bet on the Spurs last night, but peanuts, I'm

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Speaker 10: not going to putting five thousand dollars on an NBA

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Speaker 10: game in the regular season. If you do that, that's

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Speaker 10: on you. I mean, we don't know what's happening in

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Speaker 10: these baseball, basketball, football Like there's a lot of stuff

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Speaker 10: happening you don't know about. Like the idea that you're

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Speaker 10: putting that much money on ten thousand dollars on games

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Speaker 10: come on.

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Speaker 1: Really, free societies allow people to make poor choices. Most

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Speaker 1: people don't, you know, when stories like this come out.

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Speaker 1: My takeaway is Chauncey Phillips is really in the poker

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Speaker 1: part of it. There's one player, Terry Roseier, that is

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Speaker 1: in the basketball part of it, and then I think

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Speaker 1: Damon Jones is both Terry Rozier, by the way, cleared

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Speaker 1: by the NBA months ago. So it's not a large

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Speaker 1: swath of players. It's not star players. And Chauncey Billups

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Speaker 1: he's on the poker.

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Speaker 10: Side unless unless Billups who's who was coaching? Unless that

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Speaker 10: bleeds in for like you know, tanking or whatever and

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Speaker 10: saying stuff at poker games, cou. I just want to

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Speaker 10: remind people, like I think the saying is you can

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Speaker 10: indict a ham sandwich. You've heard that saying, right, yeah,

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Speaker 10: that's the phrase, Like that's what this is an indictment. Okay,

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Speaker 10: let's see what else comes. Maybe these guys are guilty

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Speaker 10: and they got him dead to rights, or or they're not.

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Speaker 10: We'll find out. Like you don't have to overreact about

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Speaker 10: Oh my gosh, gambling's killing sports leagues.

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Speaker 8: I'm seeing a lot of that, And I don't know

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Speaker 8: that I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't and I never have. And I've had

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Speaker 1: precious members of the media say I'm disappointed with your take.

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Speaker 2: Oh, settle down, lighten up.

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Speaker 1: It just stopped being so neurotic and anxiety ridden in

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Speaker 1: the I mean, good god. I was told six months

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Speaker 1: ago the tariffs will ruin the economy, and my take

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Speaker 1: was the pandemic didn't. We'll get through attacks, We'll be fine. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that one, but cook, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Just the constant needing to it's the end of time.

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Speaker 8: Listen.

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Speaker 2: It's a weird story.

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Speaker 1: The NBA has taken Chauncey Billups, who's in that poker thing,

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Speaker 1: and Terry Rozier for the time being off. They had

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Speaker 1: cleared Rosier. Let it play out. They're just an indictment,

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Speaker 1: they're just accusations. But there's a lot of things I'm

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Speaker 1: for in moderation or in certain spaces. All these leagues

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Speaker 1: tell you, don't bet on this, don't say this, don't

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Speaker 1: do that. There's twelve words I can't use on the air.

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Speaker 1: I avoid them, and I'm talking every day for three hours.

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Speaker 1: We've all got rules to a bide binde