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Speaker 1: so are the Rams. After beating the Radus uh with

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Speaker 1: you could argue one of the worst losses of the season.

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Speaker 1: let's just dive right in some thoughts here on this

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, barn Burner with starting with Baker Mayfield, and

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Speaker 1: I would say he's become and had become and really

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Speaker 1: was one of the most polarizing players in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And let's face it, for the last two years, it

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Speaker 1: over it and they were ready to move on. Well

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Speaker 1: before the Deshaun Watson thing ever became not only available,

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Speaker 1: but like a destination to Cleveland, they were off Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield for whatever reason. I don't have any inside sources there.

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Speaker 1: They did not like each other. And then he goes

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Speaker 1: which wasn't totally his fault. The guy was on the

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Speaker 1: hot seat coming into the year. But Baker Mayfield was

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Speaker 1: not good with the Carolina Panthers, and we had all

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Speaker 1: just kind of acknowledged former number one overall pick, he's

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Speaker 1: then this week he gets, you know, gets his release,

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a power play is a very

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Speaker 1: very plausible explanation. And if when the season ends, Mike

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Speaker 1: Vrabel is essentially the general manager head coach, will know

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Speaker 1: that's what happens, because that's what would have been offered

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Speaker 1: to him at Ohio State. He'd beat the boss of

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Speaker 1: everything and make an astronomical amount of money, have his

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Speaker 1: house paid for assistance. He'd have two million dollar coordinator.

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Speaker 1: They have unlimited resources. I mean they do now. You

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Speaker 1: could argue Tennessee's got a lot of money too. It's

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Speaker 1: more than like he used the pitch. Maybe he just

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Speaker 1: wanted to be the boss. Maybe he didn't want to

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Speaker 1: keep taking orders from this guy. I'm not saying John

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Speaker 1: Robinson was giving him orders. But John Robinson when a

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Speaker 1: draft pick or a player acquisition came through, especially at

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Speaker 1: a high UH monetary amount or high in the draft,

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Speaker 1: like it was John's decision. And some coaches don't like that,

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Speaker 1: you know, and especially the bigger and better you get.

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Speaker 1: And Mike rabel Starr has grown as a head coach

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Speaker 1: and he's like, let me pick the players. What Bill

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Speaker 1: Parcel say. You want me to cook the dinner, let

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Speaker 1: me go get the groceries. And I think that's understandable.

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Speaker 1: It's also just a crazy business. It's one reason why

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Speaker 1: once I left, you know, almost a decade ago, I

449
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Speaker 1: never really thought about going back. You know. I I

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Speaker 1: thought I was pretty good at my job. And a

451
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Speaker 1: lot of people are new to this. You know. I

452
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Speaker 1: got into an argument in a draft meeting after Andy

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Speaker 1: got fired Chip and taken over. I was doing the

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Speaker 1: West Coast, which Kelly over Matt Barkley, who obviously I

455
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Speaker 1: lost that argument because Chip not only drafted the guy

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Speaker 1: I got fired. But you know, there's so many politics

457
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Speaker 1: at play in the NFL. The owner is always siding

458
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Speaker 1: with agents or coaches or you just never know, a

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Speaker 1: lot of backstabbing a lot of egos, a lot of insecurity,

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Speaker 1: and it's just you could be really good at your

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Speaker 1: job and get fired. You can be really shitty at

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Speaker 1: your job and keep your job for a long period

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Speaker 1: of time. Now, I've bet a lot of people listening

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Speaker 1: in corporate America. Yeah, that's parallels a lot of different industries.

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Speaker 1: Not like the NFL is alone here, but it's just

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Speaker 1: it's just I think it could be a really shitty

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Speaker 1: business at times, Like you can be successful and get

468
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Speaker 1: run out of town, and you can be bad and

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Speaker 1: keep a job because people like you. It happens with

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Speaker 1: assistant coaches all the time, it happens with scouts all

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Speaker 1: over the league all the time. It's not always on

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Speaker 1: the merit of your job. That's that's the irony about

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Speaker 1: the whole league is based on the game and the

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Speaker 1: players they're getting players is very merit based, right. Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson would be cut if they get out of his contract.

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Speaker 1: They all know he sucks. If he was on a

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Speaker 1: year buy a year contract, they would get rid of

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Speaker 1: them tomorrow. If players don't produce, they get benched, they

479
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Speaker 1: get cut. Yeah, that's not always the case here. Now

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Speaker 1: obviously you're not gonna fire Mike Vrabel. He's really really good,

481
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Speaker 1: but this just felt a little slimy. It really did

482
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Speaker 1: a little out of left field and a little bit

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Speaker 1: like Mike Vrabel is now the grand pooh bah and

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Speaker 1: the head honcho, and I would imagine the future general

485
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Speaker 1: manager could be wrong. The future general manager of the

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Aaron Judge just signed nine years for three

487
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Speaker 1: and or sixty million dollars. It's crazy some of the

488
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Speaker 1: money these baseball players are getting. Like in what world

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Speaker 1: I love Aaron Judge, I love Trede Turner. Some of

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Speaker 1: these guys getting eight, nine, ten year deals at thirty

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Speaker 1: years old. It's insanity to me. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 1: bad business. It just is. It's just it's not a

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Speaker 1: way that anyone, if they could choose, would want to

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Speaker 1: do business right, But it's the way it is in baseball,

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Speaker 1: and it leads to a lot of bad contracts. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying Aaron Judge is necessarily a bad contract,

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Speaker 1: but the chances that, like the last three years of

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Speaker 1: that deal, at a hundred plus million dollars total, is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a hundred million dollars well spent. He better

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Speaker 1: ball out the next four or five years to make

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Speaker 1: it all worth it. But I saw Jeremy fowler On

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Speaker 1: on the bird website, Twitter dot com say what Aaron

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Speaker 1: Judge did because he bet on himself. It was a

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Speaker 1: very very impressive life lesson. The guy had a contract

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Speaker 1: in front of him for two hundred and fifteen million dollars. Now,

506
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Speaker 1: he'd had an impressive career, but he'd also been injured

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Speaker 1: a lot. Two hundred and fifteen million dollars all guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: and he told the Yankees to kick rocks. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: play this season now and see what where where the

510
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Speaker 1: chips fall, see where the dost settles. Obviously, you know

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Speaker 1: worked out well for Aaron Judge. It was a ballsy move.

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Speaker 1: It's easy to say now it was a ballsy move.

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Speaker 1: Backed it up cool, and I support any human being

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Speaker 1: alive that bets on themselves. But just because you bet

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Speaker 1: on yourself doesn't guarantee you that you're gonna win. At minimum,

516
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Speaker 1: you're gonna learn, I mean, you're you're gonna get a

517
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Speaker 1: feel for whatever decision you make and have experience based

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Speaker 1: on that decision and then figured out after the fact.

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Speaker 1: But you're not guaranteed financially to always come out the

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Speaker 1: other side with more money. I mean, that's that's a fact.

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Speaker 1: And Jeremy Fowler said, Lamar Jackson is attempting to do

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Speaker 1: when he turned down the Ravens offered what Aaron Judge

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Speaker 1: just did. And my first thought was, that's the dumbest

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Speaker 1: tweet I've ever seen, because that is not the case

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Speaker 1: at all. Lamar Jackson, Aaron Judge's most powerful leverage was

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Speaker 1: when the season ended. If he had a good season,

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Speaker 1: and obviously he had a historic season, he was a

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Speaker 1: free agent. He was free to go where he pleased.

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Speaker 1: He could have half the league, probably less than that,

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Speaker 1: but I mean big money teams bidding over his services.

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Speaker 1: Even if he had just hit forty home runs, had

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Speaker 1: a solid season, every team in the league that could

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Speaker 1: afford him would have been interested. So he was going

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Speaker 1: to have that drives with the price, right, and Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson is not going to be a free agent. So

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Speaker 1: when you turn down contracts, even if quote unquote in

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Speaker 1: your free agency year when you're a quarterback. We saw

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Speaker 1: it with Kirk Cousins, who was nowhere near as good

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Speaker 1: as Lamar Jackson when he was with Washington. Well, what happened.

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Speaker 1: He didn't hit free agency for multiple years because he

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Speaker 1: kept getting franchise tag. So until you hit free agency,

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Speaker 1: that's when you gain the leverage. So is Lamar really

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Speaker 1: betting on himself? Not really, because he's stuck. So if anything,

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Speaker 1: he just knows, like, I can just play into back

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Speaker 1: to back franchise tags. But when you play like he

546
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Speaker 1: plays and people get mad, like he didn't get hurt

547
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: running around, that's not the point his style as a player.

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Speaker 1: He just opens himself up two more hits because he

549
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: does run around and he got hurt again. Now you

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Speaker 1: can say, well as within the pocket what at freak injury?

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00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: I get that. But Lamar Jackson and now who quote

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Speaker 1: unquote bet on himself and turned down a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: And the difference is the Ravens what they offered him,

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Speaker 1: you know, a hundred sixty seventy million dollars. Aaron Judge

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Speaker 1: knew that, like if I dominate and win the m

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Speaker 1: v P, that to fifteen will be. Let's just say

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Speaker 1: at the time he thought three fifty. Let's even say

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Speaker 1: three hundred. It's a seventy five million dollar difference. What's

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Speaker 1: the difference if Lamar Jackson has had a good season

560
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Speaker 1: ten million dollars. I've said from the beginning, I don't

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Speaker 1: see the risk at like the the risk doesn't outweigh

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Speaker 1: the reward here because the reward is not like, well,

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Speaker 1: they're offering you one seventy next year, they're gonna offer

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Speaker 1: you a two twenty. That's not gonna happen. They don't

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Speaker 1: care what Kyler Murray got paid. They don't care what

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson got paid. Or excuse me, I guess Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: They've given the Kyler Murray contract, but you're not getting

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Speaker 1: into Deshaun Watson contract. That's just not happening. No one

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Speaker 1: in the NFL gives a ship about Jimmy Haslum and

570
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: the worst deal we've ever seen signed. They just don't

571
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Speaker 1: and they're not gonna copy that, right because that is

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Speaker 1: essentially these baseball deals, and honestly those deals for us

573
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Speaker 1: to consumer. I don't ultimately care what guys get paid,

574
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Speaker 1: but like we benefit more as fans of the sports

575
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Speaker 1: and from an entertainment value, the league benefits from not

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Speaker 1: being stuck in a lot of these contracts. Like Russell

577
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Speaker 1: Wilson's shitty contract is a complete outlier. To the league.

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Speaker 1: Same thing with Kyler Murray, even though we all knew

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Speaker 1: they shouldn't have signed Kyler Murray at the time. Like

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, I've said over and over I would have

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Speaker 1: signed that contract too. But most of these deals, even

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Speaker 1: the worst deals you can get out of in like

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Speaker 1: two three years, three years max, most of them too.

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Speaker 1: So Lamar Jackson, who's now injured, I just think that

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Speaker 1: decision is aging very, very poorly. I saw people arguing

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Speaker 1: on the internet, and I'm not gonna spend too much

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Speaker 1: time on this because I think it's so stupid. I'm

588
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Speaker 1: not a to a hater. I just think his numbers

589
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Speaker 1: going into last week's game against the Niners, he was

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Speaker 1: nineteen and three, Like, I didn't view him as some

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Speaker 1: guy who I didn't view him as top ten quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Like I know his statistics, I know where he stood,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't view him that way. And then I

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Speaker 1: saw some people because this week he's playing the Chargers

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00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: go well to a now has completely changed the narrative.

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Speaker 1: A year ago, Everyone's like, Justin Herbert, how could you

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Speaker 1: pass on him to take to Uh listen, I don't

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Speaker 1: give a flying you know what? What the stats are

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season. There is not a

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Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. There is not a general manager

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. There is not a team in the NFL,

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00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: and that includes Mike McDaniel and the Miami Dolphins that

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00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: would not trade Justin Herbert or excuse me, trade to

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Speaker 1: a for Justin Herbert. So this notion that always just

605
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: a big highway speaking now boy wins and losses. It

606
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Speaker 1: is not his fault that Justin Herbert, his head coach,

607
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: is a comple leet buffoon and is terrible at his job.

608
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Speaker 1: One of the worst defensive coordinators in the NFL. He

609
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Speaker 1: also happens to be the head coach. Last year, the

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Speaker 1: Chargers missed the playoffs. Justin Herbert through thirty eight touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He was, by all accounts people I knew in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: by statistical measure, by the eye test, a top five

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. Yet his team missed the playoffs.

614
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: That was not his fault. That was the head coach's fault,

615
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: and the defense's fault that was putrid. This year, Mike

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Speaker 1: McDaniel has benefited a lot. Clearly, Mike McDaniel really good

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Speaker 1: head coach is an offensive coordinator who also the head

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Speaker 1: coach who impacts the game. And then they made a

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Speaker 1: trade to Tyreek Hill, who is by far the best

620
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: player on that team, and it's really worked. He's dominant.

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Speaker 1: I said all the time, if you're gonna if anyone

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Speaker 1: from the Dolphin is gonna be in the m v

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Speaker 1: P mix, is Tyreek Hill. And I'm not trying to

624
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Speaker 1: shoot onto A. He has been much better than I thought,

625
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: and he's having a good season. Miami obviously controls their

626
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: own destiny to get to the playoffs. But this notion that,

627
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: like to Ah, if anything, he's established that if you

628
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: build a good enough offense around him, he can excel

629
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,479
Speaker 1: and be a successful quarterback. But this notion that like

630
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: he's now passed Herbert or whatever, like put down the

631
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: crack pipe, put down the drugs, because there there is

632
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: not one human being, not not one that is outside

633
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: of Toa's family that would take too over Herbert. And

634
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with saying that, Like justin Herbert is

635
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: not just a top five talent. He's been a top

636
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Speaker 1: five quarterback. I think most people like it's to a

637
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: really a top ten quarterback. We'll see, We'll see how

638
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: he comes down this home stretch because I am still

639
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: somewhat dubious and last but not least like I've always thought.

640
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: It was very disingenuous the way the media, you know,

641
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: even guys like J. Billis, people that talk about college sports,

642
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: always acted like the players were getting screwed when players

643
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: were actively getting paid my well before I was born,

644
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,239
Speaker 1: all through my life, and it was technically illegal by

645
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: the n c double A and listen, I'm pro capitalism.

646
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: I was cool with everyone getting paid under the table.

647
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: I was for that, but I was never disingenuous, acting

648
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: like no one's actually getting paid when they're all getting

649
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: all the top players. And J. Billis was very outspoken

650
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: about this for years when his program, due don't get

651
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: it twisted. We're paying premiums for those players, and rightfully

652
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: so I'd pay Zion, I'd pay Kyrie. I would pay

653
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: all those guys too to play college basketball in my program.

654
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: I just don't pretend that they're not getting an astronomical

655
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: amount of money under the table. And then when the

656
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: Feds popped all those people in college basketball they had,

657
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: it was weird, like even the media is like, well,

658
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, they were all getting paid. College football

659
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: is no different. It's a little different than the amount

660
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: of money to the majority of the guys was probably

661
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: lower than basketball because there's more of them. If I

662
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: miss out on this linebacker and get another linebacker, if

663
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: I miss out on the number two power forward in

664
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: the country, the gap on the next guy might be

665
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: pretty big. The difference between like the third old lineman

666
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: and the seventh old lineman is probably not that big

667
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: of a difference, right, especially at the highest level with

668
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: the top programs. But now the n I L everyone's

669
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: getting a lot of money, and it does feel a

670
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: little bit like if some of these numbers are true,

671
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: it's not all this is penciling for every Bryce Young

672
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: or Caleb that's worth whatever they are making. You know,

673
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: Michael Panics, whatever he got paid to return, it's worth

674
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: it because they're the quarterback. The impact you can't tell me,

675
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: like the right guard is actually if he's making I

676
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: don't know, four or whatever. Some of these numbers feel

677
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: a little out of whack to me. But again, pro capitalism,

678
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: you don't get what's fair, you get what you negotiate.

679
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: So um, all four, all these guys getting money, But

680
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: this transfer portal now is basically like part of what

681
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: makes pro sports work is there is and I'm not

682
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: the biggest government guy, but there is some regulation and

683
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: some rules needed in certain industries. And I think football, like,

684
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: you're not a free agent every single year. If you

685
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: sign a three year contract, you're on the team for

686
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: three years right there. You gotta wait till you hit

687
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: free agency. You can't negotiate with a free agent during

688
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: the season. You gotta wait till the you know, the

689
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: league year ends, and then you can negotiate at the combine.

690
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: Like they're just rules that you have to follow, Like

691
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: if I want this player, you gotta wait in the draft,

692
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: like baseball the guy becomes free agency after six years

693
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: of arbitrate whatever. Like there were just some basic black

694
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: and white things that you cannot circumvent. And it does

695
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: feel that the n C double A, which I've always

696
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: believed as a complete joke, is completely useless now and

697
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: this transfer portal thing, while again I don't think you

698
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: should have to stay somewhere if you're not playing or

699
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: you want to go somewhere new, and I think it's

700
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: actually pretty cool. I went to this website it's called

701
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: on three dot com, and you can see where guys

702
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: in the transfer portal, like a dude from Reno who

703
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: ends up going to Oklahoma State or a guy from

704
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, a smaller school. I'm trying to think up

705
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: top of my head, like Arizona State goes to Michigan.

706
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: I think it's cool when a guy upgrades, right, But

707
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: sometimes these guys down grade. And maybe they downgrade just

708
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: because I'm at a high level power five team. I'm

709
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: at Penn State, I'm at Georgia, I'm at Alabama, I'm

710
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: at Texas and I'm not playing so I gotta leave.

711
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: Totally understandable too, But from what I know of college

712
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: coaches and talking to some people in the business, they

713
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: say a lot of these people just go in the

714
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: portal just to shop themselves. And it's like, I somewhat

715
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: understand that, and I wouldn't blame If I was in

716
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: that position, I guess I would do it too. But

717
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: like in pro sports, that's not the way it works.

718
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: Like every year Aaron Donald can't be like, Wow, I'm

719
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: just gonna hit the portal shot myself. See how much

720
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: money I can come back. If you match it that,

721
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: I'll come back. And it does feel like as these

722
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: conferences as a split, and it's clearly gonna be the

723
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: Big ten and the SEC to me are gonna end

724
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: up with like twenty teams each. There has to be

725
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: some governing body where we just get some universal rules

726
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: that everyone follows, because right now, the wild wild West. Actually,

727
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: I think a lot of kids end up getting fucked

728
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: right because a lot of guys going to this transfer

729
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: portal and then they don't have a seat once the

730
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: dust settles. For every guy that's leaving Ohio State or

731
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: Alabama not gonna be that difficult, But there are also

732
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: a lot of guys with Division one Power five scholarships

733
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,479
Speaker 1: that go in there and then don't have a place

734
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: to go. And I think it's just a little I

735
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: don't have the answer. I just know what's going on

736
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: right now can't be. It's not a sustainable future and

737
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: it's not the healthiest thing just for the kids, for

738
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: the sport. Like you could argue this because in the NFL,

739
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: right like Sean McVeigh, if I'm a team with an opening,

740
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: let's just say, let's just pick a team that's gonna

741
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: fire their coach thenver Broncos, and I was like, I

742
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: want to hire Sean McVeigh, we're in college football. If

743
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: if the Rams and the Broncos were college football programs,

744
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: if Sean McVeigh wanted to leave the Rams and the Broncos,

745
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: he could, But in the NFL that never happens. The

746
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: only time it ever happened was when Gruden got traded

747
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 1: for multiple ones. But you can't just like Luke Fickle,

748
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: leave Cincinnati to go to Wisconsin. That's just that's not allowed.

749
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: It's not the way it works. Lane Kiffin bouncing around programs,

750
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: you know, you freeze bounced around programs, which is very

751
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: we're numb doing college football just happens all the time.

752
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: In the NFL, you're stuck. Maybe part of like these

753
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: new rules whenever we figure out this conference realignment is

754
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: maybe coaches get stuck. Like you get a Power five

755
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: job at minimum, you're there four years. You know, a

756
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: recruiting class. I don't know, but all I know, and

757
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: I'm not like shady stuff. I kind of like shady stuff.

758
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: That's what entertains me. This feels like a jump the Shark.

759
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: You know, all these guys jumping in, all these quarterbacks

760
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: bouncing around, and I'm not against a one time transfer

761
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: but some of these guys, like four different schools and

762
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: five or six years, Like, what the funk are you doing?

763
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: You know? Are you just trying to make as many

764
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: friends as possible. Are you trying to throw a touchdown

765
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: and every different conference, or you're trying to like actually

766
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 1: be a player, you know, or you just it's weird

767
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: because in the old days you would be like, well,

768
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: very selfish kid. I'm I'm hesitant to say that, Like

769
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: these guys not playing in bowl games does not bother

770
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: me at all. Will Levis, who's I think gonna end

771
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: up being a top five pick, very good chance he's

772
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: the number two overall pick. Not playing in Kentucky's ball game.

773
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: Of course he shouldn't play in Kentucky's bowl game. It

774
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: makes no sense. The other guy from Ohio State number eleven, uh,

775
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: I always screw up his name Jackson something something. I

776
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: can't say his last name. He hasn't played all season long,

777
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: so I've seen people getting mad that he's not playing.

778
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: He hasn't been playing football. Like if he had been

779
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: on the team and then just tapped out, I'd be

780
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: the first to say that's a little weird. But he

781
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: hasn't been around. So it's like, if you haven't been playing,

782
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: he's not gonna play in the game. Now. Obviously, if

783
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: you get a chance to go to the playoffs and

784
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: you've been playing and you leave, yeah, I would say

785
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: that's a red flag. But if you're going to these

786
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: random bowl games and your team won seven or eight

787
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: games and you're gonna be a first round player, you

788
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: can go. Now, if you're gonna be a fourth or

789
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: fifth round player and you're playing a good opponent, you

790
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to earn own some credit in the game.

791
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: Is there a risk, for sure, But it's football. It's

792
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: like you're not guaranteed you could be a six round pick.

793
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: What if you have a big game and you end

794
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: up going in the fourth round, Like you can earn

795
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: yourself money. But guys that to me are already I'd

796
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: even argue, like top fifty picks, I would I would

797
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: recommend not playing in the ball game. But there's a

798
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: reason that all these teams in the playoffs have a

799
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: lot of future first round picks. They're gonna play in

800
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: the game. Why, there's a lot to gain. You can

801
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: become a national champion. That's really been the whole point

802
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: of playing the season. Um so yeah, I mean college

803
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: football is just chaos zone right now. Back with my

804
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: man Stucky. You can find him on the Action Network podcast.

805
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: You can find him on Big Bets on Campus. You

806
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: can find him on Twitter tweeting up a storm, probably

807
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: saying goodbye to Will Levis as he's no longer ever

808
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: gonna play for Kentucky again. Don't blame him though, and

809
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: me making the right decision. You got any updates on

810
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: Kentucky hoops? How are they looking? They're they're looking okay,

811
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean are they have a ton of town as

812
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: much as anybody. Uh, they're kind of phone behind and

813
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: as far as like coaching and just they don't run

814
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: much like they just cow Party is an amazing recruiter

815
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: media guy, but like as far as in game adjustments

816
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: and like the modern modernizing what they do, they're they're

817
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: kind of phone behind in that department. So we'll see

818
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: how they long way to go until March and we'll say,

819
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: hopefully they can avoid getting upset in the first round

820
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: of St. Peter's again. Hey, well we got some football,

821
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 1: and actually we got some you know, these next couple

822
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 1: of weeks were really going to determine who's in the

823
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,959
Speaker 1: playoffs who's not in the playoffs. Uh, let's start with

824
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: I was with you last week on Kansas City, and

825
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: you gotta give the Bengals credit. I mean the Bengals.

826
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: To me, the Bengal is just pretty good. I mean,

827
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: if that quarterback is going to be that good that

828
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: they have every bit of the chance to play with

829
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: Buffalo in Kansas City, right, Uh in playoffs, I mean

830
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: that guy. Obviously they probably have to go on the road,

831
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: depending on how this next three or four weeks shape out.

832
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: But like, I'm not gonna hate them whether they play.

833
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: I guess they would more than likely probably play Kansas

834
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: City in the second round, right as the two three game,

835
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: and clearly they are not going to be intimidated to

836
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: go in there and have a chance to win. Yeah,

837
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: now you have to give I mean, there was a

838
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: Kelsey fumble, the Cheats are up four. I don't know

839
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: what Reid was kicking that field goal, because even if

840
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: you make it like barrows the ball at three minutes

841
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: ago to get on the field and get another field goal.

842
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: But you can look back either in that game, Tyler

843
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: Boyd drops a wide open touchdown. Yeah, uh, end of

844
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: the first half they went for into fourth down. So yeah,

845
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: I think that the the Bengals were the right side

846
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: in that game. You know, the Chiefs could have won. Um. Yeah,

847
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: they're dangerous. Their defense, defensive coordinator makes really good adjustments

848
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: in the second half. They consistently shut down teams in

849
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: the second half. And then Barrow with all of his weapons,

850
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: like he's taking a big step forward in your two

851
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: People don't realize it because he made the super Bowl

852
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: last year. He made the super Bowl last year, but

853
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: they weren't that great, like and if you look at

854
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: their like yards per drive, you know, uh, they were

855
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: like thirteen, fourteenth in the league and they just kind

856
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: of got they got in late and then they got

857
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: a couple of breaks and then got to the super Bowl.

858
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: But this year, if you look like they're like third

859
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: in the league and yards per drive and he's really

860
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: taking a big step forward. I think the offensive line

861
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: is only going to continue to improve. So yeah, there's

862
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: dangerous as anybody in the n f C. Yeah, I

863
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: mean when Jamar Chase is out there with them, they

864
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: feel like they are a jugger not they clearly are.

865
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: I mean, now I'm gonna say what I said last week.

866
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: I I do like Kansas City to bounce back, but

867
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen the number till you sent over the email.

868
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: It is a pretty large number. Shows you how much

869
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: Denver sucks at Denver to beginning ten points, that their

870
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: defense is good. I mean, Russell sucks, He's got awful,

871
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: but their defense is legitimate. And you know, Kansas City

872
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: is just you know, not consistently offensive jug or not.

873
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: Even though last week, right they just didn't score touchdowns,

874
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 1: but they efficiently moved the ball, and like you said

875
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: with the Kelsey touchdown, it's weird. I don't defensive guys

876
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: don't usually tap out right like that. Denver's defense has

877
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: been playing hard pretty much consistently all season long, despite

878
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson being in their and their head coach being

879
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: a joke. So you would think they're gonna play hale,

880
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: especially at home. The crowd. I mean, I would imagine

881
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: they're you know, the fans might be tapping out a

882
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: little bit. But ten points feels like a pretty large number,

883
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: even for Russell Wilson, who can't you know, throw a

884
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: touchdown to save his life. Yeah, I I reluctantly took

885
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: the Broncos here. This is only the second time I've

886
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: taken them. But you're right, the defense is still fighting.

887
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: They might end up leading the league in in points

888
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: aloud and then also uh leave the league with fewest

889
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: points scored on offense. But they've only lost one game

890
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: by ten or more points the whole year. They just

891
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: went to Baltimore. I know the Mark got her, but

892
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 1: they lost by one in inexplicable fashion. They've lost three

893
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: games in overtime. They've lost five games in which they've

894
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: led in the fourth quarter. Their defense keeps them in

895
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: every single game. And if you look, if there's a

896
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: couple of bounces or if their offense was just a

897
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: tad bit more competent, this team could have eight or

898
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: nine wins. It's insane. And that yeah, their defense. I

899
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: don't know whether defense is gonna just collapse from you know,

900
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: every week trying to go out there and get them

901
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: a win. Um, but this isn't the spot. I mean,

902
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: they're at home against Kansas City. The crowd will be

903
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: into it. So yeah, I think their defense shows up again.

904
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: And every Broncos game is the same. It's a script.

905
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Broncos fancy come home, you know

906
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: Sunday and you basically popping in a tape. It's a movie.

907
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: It's the same thing every week. It's like the sixteen

908
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: ten ten nine in just hard fashion. So yeah, I

909
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: think their defense can keep the minute. Mahomes seven and

910
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: oh straight it up as a favorite of seven or

911
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: more points on the road. He's also never lost on

912
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: the road in division, which is crazy, but he's only

913
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: one in six against the spread in those games. Um.

914
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: And if you want to fade Mahomes, it's when he's

915
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: a favorite of seven or more. Their defense isn't great

916
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: and which is hard for them to build margin. And

917
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: one of the things that kubi Act, the new play caller,

918
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: has done. It hasn't translated into points, but they've gone

919
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: just they have so many injuries ever see, they've gone

920
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: really heavy. So they're using like three tight ends, um,

921
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: and they're just going to like this power running game.

922
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: It's given them. You know, Russell isn't getting hit as much,

923
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: and it's given them a lot more manageable third downs.

924
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: I think that that could translate here against Kansas City

925
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: is defensive line is not good against the run. UM,

926
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: So I think that they can move the ball some,

927
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: and this is just it's a big number for a

928
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: road divisional game. So yeah, it's awful. It's it's gonna

929
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: be painful to watch, but um give me Denver plus

930
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: uh nine and a half ten at home. You know

931
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: what's crazy thinking about is like, when you have an

932
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: elite defense relative to like that season of other teams,

933
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: you should be a borderline lock for like double you know,

934
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: ten wins. Right, the Niners offense, I mean they're going

935
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: through three quarterbacks, They're gonna win eleven games, mainly because

936
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: their defense dominates every week in Their offense has its moments,

937
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: but it is by no means a juggernaut. You're a

938
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: Ravens guy. For a lot of years, you guys had

939
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: anepped offenses, like when I was younger and we were

940
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: younger right in the two thousand's. But their defense gets

941
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: you around nine to eleven wins somehow, the fucking rate

942
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: or the Broncos are gonna win like four games because

943
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: their offense has been that hidio Like it's it's hard

944
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: to be as shitty as they've been, right, yeah, I

945
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 1: mean the Rains are a super Bowl with a shifty

946
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: offense and in two thousand. I mean they've got a

947
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: couple of games about scoring a touchdown and yeah, I

948
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: mean your offense has to be extremely bad. And this

949
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: is the Bronco there averaging thirteen point eight points per game.

950
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: The last team to finish with under fourteen points per

951
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: game was the two thousand twelve Chiefs. So yeah, you

952
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: gotta be like historically bad offense to not you know,

953
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: at least get in the playoffs with this creative the defense,

954
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: they're in the game every week and then it just

955
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: falls apart. Well, speaking of if you can combine Denverse

956
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: defense and Detroit's offense, I mean you probably have a

957
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: sixteen and one team. Uh. They played Minnesota, and I

958
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: honestly had to double look at this line because I

959
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: get Detroit's at home, but they're the favorite in this game.

960
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: That's now, I understand they've been playing really good football

961
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: and they easily could have won that Thanksgiving game. And

962
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, you've been hammering home these stats on Minnesota,

963
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: which the stats don't equal, like the record and the stats,

964
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: you know, don't exactly parallel each other. But I mean,

965
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: the point of the whole sport is to win games. Uh,

966
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: and I do believe. Like when you watch Minnesota, it's

967
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: crazy how good Justin Jefferson is, Like even when they

968
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,479
Speaker 1: miss him, I guess it's stupid how good the guy is. Uh.

969
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: I love the backup running back Madison. I mean they

970
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: are pretty offensively loaded defensively though obviously Detroit is just

971
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean having a pretty good season, um, and they

972
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,479
Speaker 1: kind of believe. And you know, having the Rams pick

973
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: in a weird way for a team that's not gonna

974
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, it incentivizes them to keep trying to

975
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: kick ass and take names. I mean, they got that

976
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: pick coming to them, so like whether their pick ends

977
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: up twelve or seventeen, like that, they are trying to

978
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: win these games. I like Detroit in this in this game.

979
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I mean, I I bet against

980
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: Minnesota all the time, and I you know, I lose,

981
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: but it does feel like I'm gonna I'm gonna ride

982
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: Campbell in the lines. Yeah. I like the lines here too.

983
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much how much longer the Vikings

984
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: can keep this up with their ten and two with

985
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: a plus ten net scoring margin like that, that is insane.

986
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: This is more like a five or six win team.

987
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: They've won their last nine games have all come by

988
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: one possession. They're generally getting outscored in every game by

989
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: a lot. I mean that they're they're getting lucky in turnovers,

990
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: red zone. Last week, they were outgained by the Jets

991
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: by almost two hundred yards of total offense against the Jets.

992
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 1: Their thirty feet in the league and net net yards

993
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: per play um. And if you look at a lot

994
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: of metrics like power ratings, and this team is like

995
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: below average overall. Their defense isn't great. The lines are rolling,

996
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: and the lines, you know, their offenses clicking on all cylinders.

997
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: They're healthy. Now, it's one of the best offensive lines

998
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And you said it, golf is playing

999
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: really well. You got your receivers healthy now even at

1000
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams and been mixing. And you're going against the

1001
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: defense that can't really stop anybody. You know, we just

1002
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: watched Mike White throw all over them, and then the

1003
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: week before we said, oh look, Mac Jones is Patriots offense.

1004
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: Maybe it's back after the bottle well, and then they

1005
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: look awful against the Bills. Granted, the Bulls are a

1006
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 1: pretty good day, but the King's defense is really bad

1007
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: and the lines defense is actually like they're still bad,

1008
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 1: but they're actually like improving a bit. If you look

1009
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: over the last three or four weeks since the bye week,

1010
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: they have the you know, they some of their young players,

1011
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: um have really started to improve. Hutchinson's really coming to better. Yeah.

1012
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: So like you know, they're this this kid passcal they're playing,

1013
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: and Joseph at safety. They got a lot of younger

1014
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: kids that are stepping up. Roderiguez a linebacker that this

1015
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: defense in like two years. If they add like if

1016
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: they just hit on like their next couple of additions,

1017
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: whether it's free agency or draft picks, it could be

1018
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: really good to go along with this offensive lines. They're

1019
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: up and coming. They've covered five straight. Um. I think

1020
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: they make it six and they win this game and

1021
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: keep their slim playoff folks alive. Well, I don't think

1022
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: it's outrageous that if they just go, we don't love

1023
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks, even though it feels like Dan

1024
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: Campbell is gonna like Will Levice just big, powerful guy.

1025
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: I could see that. But if they just if for

1026
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: whatever reason they don't, they could go easily with like

1027
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: a Willie Anderson or that Georgia defensive lineman and then

1028
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: take another sweep you know player. They got Jamison Williams,

1029
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: who's basically gonna red shirt the season. I know he

1030
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: came back, but I don't think he's gonna play much.

1031
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: They will be conscious with him. Their team on paper

1032
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 1: could be pretty impressive. We know their offensive line is good,

1033
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: They're running games good. Yeah, Jamison Williams to go with

1034
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: st Brown, like if Hutchinson becomes kind of like a

1035
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: poor man's Bosa, not Nick but more Joey. I think

1036
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: they got a chance to be bucked, you know, be

1037
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: be just a playoff level roster for sure. Now can

1038
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: they coach right that? That's going to be the question

1039
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 1: the more and more tight game season, because when they've won,

1040
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: they've kind of been up, you know, the tight games

1041
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: have kind of gone not their way with some of

1042
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: this clock management and stuff. But I mean next year,

1043
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be some pressure on them because

1044
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: I think the roster is gonna look pretty good on

1045
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: paper headed into the two twenty three season. Yeah, I agree.

1046
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: And if you know defense too, obviously your most important

1047
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: positions in the NFL. It's like you're they have their

1048
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: offensive line covered, but it's quarterback and golf a show

1049
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: that he's competent enough, um, you know, wide receiver where

1050
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: they're which they're set at. And then on defense, it's like, okay,

1051
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: they have a dominant defensive end, which they might with Hutchinson,

1052
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: and you have a really good corner which now that

1053
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: you know Coudist are to play really well. And people

1054
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: forget he was the number three overall pick in the

1055
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 1: Nall draft was really poor at first. What you see

1056
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: with rookies, Denny got hurt. He's starting to come into

1057
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: his own. So if he continues to develop, um, you know,

1058
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: and then you got these other young pieces around them, Yeah,

1059
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: that the Lions are the Lions might actually be respectable

1060
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: coming up here in the next couple of years. Okay,

1061
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: I don't plan on watching a second of this game,

1062
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: but I know you're picking aside, So tell us about

1063
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: sell us on Jacksonville Tennessee. I just I took the

1064
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: four because Tennessee. I think it's gonna have trouble winning

1065
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: with margin. I think Lawrence is gonna play. Tennessee is

1066
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: just so banged up. I don't think Burke's is gonna play,

1067
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: which means they can't throw it downfield. Jags have no secondary.

1068
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: Their pasty is horrendous, but their Rundy's pretty good schematically.

1069
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: That's their Their defense is set up to shut down

1070
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: the run. Todd Bowles disciple coaching up that d and

1071
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 1: then on the if you look at the Titans defense,

1072
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: it is decimated. I mean, de Nico Autry is out.

1073
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: Landry's already out, like David Long, their linebacker. If they

1074
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: have three starting secondary guys that are out, you saw

1075
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: that last week against the Eagles. They just they got

1076
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: a couple more guys got hurt and they couldn't stop

1077
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: anybody get Trey Avery, a couple of rookies on the

1078
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: outside trying to guard their receivers. So I just think

1079
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: Tennessee is really banged up here, and their offense without

1080
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: Burke's against the decent rundy, it's gonna be hard to

1081
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: build margin divisional game. I'll take the four happily here.

1082
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: This was trending towards three tick back up because the

1083
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: reports came out that Launceton practice. But I think he's

1084
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: gonna be fine to play. You know, I thought this

1085
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: week would be the time when we just kind of

1086
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: started ending the Giants, but that tie game kind of

1087
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 1: keeps them alive. So even if they lose this game,

1088
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: the next week is really the big game because they

1089
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't go in like back to back losses against Washington.

1090
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: But the Giants kind of are what they are. And

1091
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: one thing you saw against Tennessee, I mean some certain

1092
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: code or quarterbacks and wide receivers just like have perfect

1093
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: chemistry and clearly a j and in Jalen. I mean,

1094
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: we know it's been well documented they've been friends for

1095
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: a long time, but holy ship. I mean it's just guys.

1096
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: And honestly, Davonte Smith obviously with Jalen Alabama, like those

1097
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: two guys are on the same page. I mean that's

1098
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: just a pretty potent combination. It's in New York, I mean,

1099
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: I you know better, mean this isn't they don't have

1100
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: to win this game. I mean they're still alive Seattle

1101
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: right and Commanders they're kind of fighting for those last

1102
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: couple of spots. But I mean it's Philly right for

1103
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 1: an upset here, I mean a little left down game.

1104
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: You would probably say no because these divisional games, especially

1105
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: in the NFC East, now that everyone's pretty competitive, you

1106
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: take pretty seriously. Uh, seven points feels like a lot

1107
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: because the Giants, you know, throughout the season have been

1108
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: able to ugly up the game. But it's hard man

1109
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: for me to bet against the way Philly like when

1110
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: they're on. This isn't a fair fight. It's just maybe Philly,

1111
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, plays their C plus game and the game

1112
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: is a little uglier and maybe we're talking thirteen thirteen,

1113
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: you know, midway through the you know, third quarter, and

1114
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: they got a chance to you know, cover in the

1115
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: final score ends up, you know, let's say sixteen three

1116
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 1: or something, and if you take the Giants plus seven,

1117
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: you're in good shape. Yeah, you hit the nail on

1118
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: the head. I the Giants are. They're well coached team.

1119
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: They're able to ugly opt these games. Catching seven at

1120
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: home in the divisional game in December with a team

1121
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: that's you know, alive. Uh, they'll always catch my attention.

1122
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 1: I mean, if you blindly bet home dogs with seven

1123
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: or more in December or later in the history, they

1124
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: will not in the history it says at fifty six percent,

1125
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: you're already ahead of the curve. The and the Eagles.

1126
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: There's something about the Eagles. I don't know if it's

1127
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: because they're young, but they this team just hasn't been

1128
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: the same on the road. I mean they are destroying

1129
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: teams at home, but on the road, for what its

1130
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: seven and sixteen against the spread. That's the least profitable

1131
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. That includes one and six against

1132
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: the spread against the NFC East this year. It's like,

1133
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, they beat the Lines by three to start

1134
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: the year, and granted they were up by a lot

1135
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: and the Lines weren't the same team. They beat the

1136
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: Cardinals only by three. Um, you know, they beat the

1137
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: Texans by twelve and Texans were in that game. They

1138
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: beat the Colts by one the other week. So it's

1139
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: the offense and for whatever reason, they haven't been the

1140
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: same team on the road this year. And if it's

1141
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: more of it and I'm just selling high, it's like,

1142
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: you know, this team is one loss. Last week, they

1143
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: go out and they absolutely dominate Tennessee. And that's why

1144
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: I think we're getting the seven here. I don't think

1145
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: we would have gotten the seven, which is obviously a

1146
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: really important number, and so I'm taking it. Giants can

1147
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: ugly up games. Is a huge game for them, and

1148
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: to you know, to kind of hammer home the point

1149
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: of selling high on teams in the NFL and December

1150
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: or later. Over the past twenty years, teams with a

1151
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: n plus win percentage are fifty three and one against

1152
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: the spread. That's when those teams play away from home,

1153
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: there are eight thirty two and one against the spread.

1154
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: That it goes back to, Okay, it's very rare for

1155
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: teams to win or their games in the NFL come December,

1156
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: but everyone wants to bet them, right, who wants to

1157
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: fade them? So usually they're a little inflated, which is

1158
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: why I think you're getting a seven here, um, which

1159
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: I'll take and hold my nose. You know, talking about

1160
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: Minnesota being the two seed, kind of a little look

1161
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: ahead to the playoffs, is there gonna be some value

1162
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: in a little upset city depending on who they play Washington,

1163
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: Seattle or New York. I mean that because you would imagine,

1164
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: what do you think depending on the team that lines

1165
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: five six points at Minnesota, team that's probably nine and eight,

1166
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: right plan a team that's I don't know, fourteen and three,

1167
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: you know the line or is the line going to

1168
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: reflect it? Actually, Minnesota is more like an eleven win

1169
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: team than some fourteen win Powerhouse. Yeah. I mean the

1170
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: thing is, which Minnesota at home. They have one of

1171
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: the best home field advantages at here the Horn, and um,

1172
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: you mentioned their offense and one of the reasons they

1173
00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: do win. I gotta give them credit for winning clothes

1174
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: games is like you have a guy like Jefferson, Like,

1175
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: just look at the Bills game the fourth and eighteen.

1176
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: I'll just thrown up. They will make a miraculous catch.

1177
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: But so they're they're there's still decent. They have an

1178
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: offense that then there's a reason they're good in the

1179
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: fourth quarter and the bottom of the NFC is bad.

1180
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: So I don't it's that they're projected right now to

1181
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: be playing the Seahawks, who were Everyone is kind of

1182
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: seeing like Ethery're not as good as we thought, or

1183
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: the Giants, Uh, maybe Washington. I think Washington would be

1184
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: the team that Minnesota would want to avoid. Um, they're

1185
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: on the outside looking in now, but we're Detroit. If

1186
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: Detroit can somehow sneak up to that seventh seed, they

1187
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: need to win this game and then get some help.

1188
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Seattle defense is trending in the wrong direction.

1189
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't think the Giants have enough on offense. But

1190
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: if Washington gets in, they're playing a lot better with

1191
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: Heineke and that defense can get after cousins. Um, I

1192
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: think they would be the dangerous seventh seed. They would

1193
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: be the danger seventh seed that no one would really

1194
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: want to see. Um can ugly up a game. You

1195
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: saw what I did in Philadelphia. They just controlled the

1196
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: ball for the almost the entire game. But at the

1197
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: bottom of the NFC is terribly But if Washington sneaks

1198
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: in or Detroit, these are the teams that aren't in

1199
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: there right now, I think they would be much more

1200
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: dangerous than Seattle or New York. So we'll see how

1201
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: it plays out over the next couple of weeks. Um,

1202
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: But you have to think that the the Eagles and

1203
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: the Cowboys right now are head and shoulders above the rest.

1204
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: And then it's gonna come down to forty Niners, who

1205
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: I had above those two teams. With Jimmy G, it's

1206
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: gonna come down to Okay, let's see what Purty can

1207
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: give them over the next couple of weeks. A lot

1208
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: of its system with Shannon, but Jimmy G, if you

1209
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: look statistically, was always way more effective than you know.

1210
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: When when I was C. J. Bethard or a backups

1211
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: that have been in there. So you know, party is

1212
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: a seventh round rookie. So we're gonna find out a

1213
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: lot about the forty Niners, and they're ceiling um over

1214
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. So but those are the

1215
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: clear three. Well, the Niners play Tampa and Seattle in

1216
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: like a four day stretch because they play next Thursday night.

1217
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: So I mean, we're gonna in a weird way, as

1218
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: crazy as it sounds like, if the Niners were to

1219
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: screw up against Tampa or lose that game against Seattle

1220
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: like Seattle has held Serve. I mean, it's not like

1221
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: Seattle's three games behind them, so the Niners did beat

1222
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: him earlier. But if they blow this game against Tampa,

1223
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: then we're to lose the Seattle you look up in

1224
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,479
Speaker 1: Seattle would be the three seed, you know, pretty quick,

1225
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: assuming they take care of business against Carolina, which, like

1226
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: you said, I mean, now Kenneth Walker's heard, He's been

1227
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: a big issue, I mean a positive for them, and uh,

1228
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: you know their defense is clearly leaking oil. You know,

1229
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to know what the market

1230
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: thinks of the Seahawks. They are three and a half

1231
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: home point home favorites this week against the Carolina Panthers.

1232
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: Do you think that's right for an upset right there?

1233
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: Little Carolina coming in there off of by Yeah, off

1234
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: of by Sam Donald, but um, that upgrade from Baker.

1235
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Panther's defense, they have really good secondary,

1236
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: really good corner and J. C. Jungers playing as well

1237
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: as anybody could take out one of the receivers, and

1238
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: like Kenneth Walker's hurt and that everything starts that running

1239
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: game for Seattle, and their defense is leaking oil. So yeah,

1240
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean that there's a reason why they're they're only

1241
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: three and a half point home favorites. They could go

1242
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: down there for sure. The end of c is gonna

1243
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: be very very interesting. The rest of the way, you

1244
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: think Dallas is a lot to be favored in that

1245
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: first round game on the road, assuming they played Tampa

1246
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: that four or five game, Like Dallas would be on

1247
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: the road and Tampa, would they be like minus one

1248
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: or minus two in that game? Yeah, assuming assuming full health. Yeah,

1249
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are trending up. I mean the Bucks, especially

1250
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: because in the NFL playoffs, the actual public in the

1251
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: market can have fa sad because everyone is betting these games,

1252
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: so public perception can matter, and that the amount of

1253
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: public money. I don't know who wants to bet the

1254
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: Bucks right now, Like it's what you've seen from the

1255
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: Cowboys Like the Bucks, I don't do. I only see

1256
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: them scoring like the two minute warning, and it's amazing

1257
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: what Brady can do just to turn on are we

1258
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: need two touchdowns? But the team is just the play

1259
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: calling is bad and something. I mean there's six and

1260
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: six with a plus a minus two scoring margin on

1261
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: the year. Stephen his average as can be. But then again,

1262
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: I don't know a really good question because then you

1263
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: could just fall back on well, it's Tom Brady and

1264
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: he's just gotta win the game, which I'm sure is

1265
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: gonna draw some money. So and you trust and you

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Speaker 1: trust the Cowboys in a big spot. I mean it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: now that you're saying that maybe maybe it's a maybe

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Speaker 1: it's a picked a coin flip, because yeah, Brady still

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Speaker 1: can still find you need one drive to win a game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, still give me Brady, well, stucky, um some

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Speaker 1: good insight, have a good weekend, win some money and

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Speaker 1: uh tell Will Levis goodbye, absolutely good luck and say

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Speaker 1: the volume