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Speaker 3: Like Jason said in this episode, is X Men ninety
Speaker 3: seven season two, penultimate episode, episode eight. Remember what happened
Speaker 3: to the last of it episode guys, we saw some
Speaker 3: shiny cards. They were pink. We knew it was coming back.
Speaker 3: It was sexy Dead Gambit and now he's back the
Speaker 3: dead Man's Hand, Jason happened.
Speaker 1: Rogue is dreaming. She's having a beautiful dream about Gambit,
Speaker 1: but then the the the love, the warmth is ended
Speaker 1: when she realizes it's actually a nightmare because it's about
Speaker 1: Dead Gambit. She sees Death Gambit, one of the horsemen
Speaker 1: of Apocalypse. The X Men are playing poker, which we love.
Speaker 1: When the I love that, it's just wonderful. It's the
Speaker 1: stuff that we both love.
Speaker 3: Who do you think realistically is the best at poker
Speaker 3: out of the X Men, Like just generally it doesn't
Speaker 3: have to be out of this team.
Speaker 4: But just like I.
Speaker 3: Think he's played the most.
Speaker 1: He's played the most in his like heyday, like he
Speaker 1: was a he was playing back when like the only
Speaker 1: thing that you could do for recreation was he was
Speaker 1: playing nothing. There's nothing else even Yeah, I was couldn't
Speaker 1: even like play ball that.
Speaker 3: They didn't even happen.
Speaker 5: They hadn't made the wheel yet, I don't think so,
Speaker 5: it's like it was tough.
Speaker 1: I mean, we definitely didn't have Like you couldn't buy baseballs, right,
Speaker 1: you'd have to make a baseball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're making out of like a liver of a
Speaker 3: cat or something. Anyway. Anyway, anyways, so they're playing poker.
Speaker 3: That's great, we love it.
Speaker 1: They're playing poker. Night Crawler gets the Dead the historical
Speaker 1: dead man's hand while built hilk Hiccock's hand. H Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Professor X checks on road. She's like, I'm okay, and
Speaker 1: just in the island security system goes off. Jean scans
Speaker 1: the object that's coming towards them, and she realizes it's
Speaker 1: her son Cable along with Jubilee, and the rest of
Speaker 1: this is his Black squad X Force. X Force is like,
Speaker 1: guess what you're never going to guess? Apocalypse is dead.
Speaker 1: They throw his desiccated corpse been out murder like, like,
Speaker 1: we're going to prosecute the murder of Apocalypse. Is that
Speaker 1: favorite guys?
Speaker 3: Okay please?
Speaker 1: Jubilee gives Rogue the kind of singed Queen of Heart's
Speaker 1: card and obviously we realized that Gambit did this. Somehow,
Speaker 1: They give them the update about that Gambit is now
Speaker 1: death Gambit, and their new plan is to sneak Rogue
Speaker 1: in to Gambit's proximity and have her steel his powers
Speaker 1: and thus kind of weaken him and also I guess
Speaker 1: this would restore his soul somehow. Xavier agrees as long
Speaker 1: as it's not an assassination, we're not just going to
Speaker 1: go in and kill him. We're going to try and
Speaker 1: resuscitate him and bring him back to full life. And
Speaker 1: Rogue is really sad about this. Whole thing is bringing
Speaker 1: up a lot of stuff for her.
Speaker 3: Jason, this might sound silly asking you this as you
Speaker 3: were doing this recap and we're already at the beginning,
Speaker 3: I feel like any of this is happening a little
Speaker 3: bit too fast. He's dead and now he's that gambit,
Speaker 3: but also a boocalypse is Dad? Remember that huge threat?
Speaker 3: So like, is this how did this land for you?
Speaker 3: Obviously we know, so it's kind of fun. We're rushing
Speaker 3: through it, but as you speak on it and I
Speaker 3: think about watching it, it does happen really quickly. Like
Speaker 3: I think we.
Speaker 1: Need to put I think we need to put a
Speaker 1: rule in where if you die, you're you have to
Speaker 1: lay out for like a full season at least That's
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say, at least one. At least
Speaker 1: one a full other season. If you die in episode
Speaker 1: five the next season, you are not even a hint,
Speaker 1: Like they can't even too much. It's too much. The
Speaker 1: camera can go by like a family portrait, you know,
Speaker 1: the ex family, like on the wall, and then you
Speaker 1: see that person there, but they can't even be hinted
Speaker 1: that because I think I do agree with you it's
Speaker 1: too soon, especially when you consider that we're just like
Speaker 1: bringing upot It's clear that there's no apocalypses.
Speaker 3: He's not dead. It wouldn't make any sense at the right.
Speaker 1: Anyway, beast uses cerebra, right, upgraded cerebro, the adapted cerebro,
Speaker 1: post danger search, Yeah, the gender fluid cerebro. We can't
Speaker 1: do anything about X men, but here we're going to
Speaker 1: do something and they're searching for Gambit and they find
Speaker 1: it sees Gambit, but Gambit can like look through the
Speaker 1: connection and see Charles as well, and it's a very
Speaker 1: very distressing. We go to the Bayou, the Thieves and assassins.
Speaker 1: The Thieves Guild is there, and this is do you
Speaker 1: want to give people the backstory of gambits.
Speaker 5: Let's think about Gambit pre bat clue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was, as you might uh know, because of
Speaker 3: his little outfit and his little name, Remy Laboo. He
Speaker 3: was a little master thief and he essentially created like
Speaker 3: I would say, depending on the version, it can be
Speaker 3: anything as small as like a Fagan style crew of
Speaker 3: master thieves, but then there are versions of it whereas
Speaker 3: essentially an international global society of like the smartest criminals
Speaker 3: ever ever ever.
Speaker 1: And there is a there is a hint, much like
Speaker 1: Assassin's creed, that this is like a ancient oh yeah,
Speaker 1: cot like like uh what would you call them, like
Speaker 1: ancient organization.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's essentially like essentially there are different guilds throughout
Speaker 3: the different branches. So the Tokyo branches like allegedly was
Speaker 3: something that had long happened until it got wiped out
Speaker 3: by the Hand, and there was a New York branch
Speaker 3: that was like right in from the eighteen hundred. So
Speaker 3: it's kind of, I would say, almost like a John
Speaker 3: Wick esque sort of reimagining of like a Mason's Brotherhood
Speaker 3: but simply for thieves. And then you imagine the Assassin's
Speaker 3: Guild is the same but for assassins, right, so we
Speaker 3: need all these you know, black Cat she was a
Speaker 3: guild member at times. It's New York one and stuff.
Speaker 1: So it's that there's a lot of intersections. So so
Speaker 1: Gambit is is you know, we see these folks all meeting.
Speaker 1: They realize they've been lured there by Gambit, their old brethren.
Speaker 1: He tells them that after he died, the devil like
Speaker 1: took his soul and he then turns them into his
Speaker 1: Apocalypse powered thralls, and it's clear that like he's got
Speaker 1: other plans, plans to do this to the X Men
Speaker 1: as well. X Men and X Force arrive in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: They're looking around for a Gambit. Each is trying to
Speaker 1: like avoid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like the other by the Sentinel Ema like
Speaker 3: it's it's very cat and mousey.
Speaker 1: One thing leads to another and Gambit's thrawled assassins now,
Speaker 1: you know, completely under the influence of Gambit attack the
Speaker 1: X Men and a group including Robert and Belladonna. So
Speaker 1: this is Gambit's brother and ex girlfriend or something, and
Speaker 1: like you situation ship, yes, situationship. Definitely a femme fatale
Speaker 1: in the Marvel universe. This is a lot like I
Speaker 1: remember when Gambit's backstory started to get fleshed out, and
Speaker 1: it was very much like when all of a sudden
Speaker 1: with Scott Summers, you realized there was an out Summers
Speaker 1: who he had powered, and then eventually you realize, oh wait,
Speaker 1: their dad is in space, and then there's a whole
Speaker 1: brother in space.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, I mean Bella Donna as well. Like
Speaker 3: in the comics, that's like Remy's bestie from childhood. That's
Speaker 3: like his you know, Raven and Charles in the modern
Speaker 3: X Men movies. That's kind of like they were thieves,
Speaker 3: but they were competitive, they were in love, you know,
Speaker 3: but also Interestingly, I'm not surprised we see this here
Speaker 3: because actually I'd forgotten, but Bella Donna, she actually like
Speaker 3: helps she has to get gambits, helped to fight the
Speaker 3: Brood at some point, and we just saw the Brude.
Speaker 3: So timing wise, this is kind of like working out
Speaker 3: And obviously these are just little nods, but definitely really
Speaker 3: interesting because also I love the moment where it was
Speaker 3: like they knew that they were completely kind of thralled
Speaker 3: because Jean just can't hear anything, essentially like black holes, right,
Speaker 3: They're just like there's nothing there that shows like how
Speaker 3: horrifically powerful this power is.
Speaker 1: So there's a while this fight between the X Men
Speaker 1: and the thralled assassins is going on. Rogue and Gambit
Speaker 1: finally have some one on one time, and you know,
Speaker 1: he's still very charming as the old Gambit was and poetic.
Speaker 1: He says to her, life does love does flash before
Speaker 1: us when we die?
Speaker 3: I'm on a me.
Speaker 1: When I died, all I saw was you moshe you
Speaker 1: know that kind of whole kind of right, and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I she's you can tell this is really
Speaker 1: hitting her, and then she's like takes a glove off.
Speaker 1: She's like, but I'm still an X man. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do the thing touches him, and it's the Jean Gray
Speaker 1: not being able to read the minds should have been
Speaker 1: the hint that this stuff's not working anymore.
Speaker 3: Because also, like, babe, Jean Gray is like one of
Speaker 3: the most I mean, so is Rogue. But also like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean in the comics, Rogue is also being death
Speaker 3: so this is a really interesting kind of moment anyway.
Speaker 1: So Rogue can't pull the powers out. Gambit expected this. Also,
Speaker 1: he puts her to sleep with some kind of touch
Speaker 1: of his hand. Uh. Nightcrawler tries to do something, but
Speaker 1: Gambit overpowers him as well and also thraws him.
Speaker 3: Gambit, yeah, either one that happens.
Speaker 1: I know, I didn't. I didn't either. Gambit and all
Speaker 1: his thralls go off their merry way. Meanwhile, of course,
Speaker 1: Cable is like, okay, well, we need to go after them,
Speaker 1: and this is not a rescue mission anymore. This is
Speaker 1: like we got to kill everybody. The X Men at
Speaker 1: the mansion see the news about the fight and more.
Speaker 1: Wolverine and Forge and Storm go out to go see
Speaker 1: if they can do something about it. Road wakes up,
Speaker 1: she has not been thralled. Big mistake, question mark, question mark.
Speaker 1: I think this is Gambit. I mean death Gambit went
Speaker 1: soft here. I gotta say as well, Jason, why are
Speaker 1: you surprised?
Speaker 3: Because when you know they're like, well, she's going to
Speaker 3: restore his soul, but surely still has a bit of
Speaker 3: the soul if he's like romanticizing her, like I don't know,
Speaker 3: all right, just saying like he's so horny through it
Speaker 3: all the whatever happens, He's he's just gonna want huh,
Speaker 3: it doesn't not you know, I know.
Speaker 1: This is like a hint of the and we did.
Speaker 1: You know I criticized this show previously that I think
Speaker 1: they are double too many double beats. And yeah, here
Speaker 1: is one in which in which we saw a wolverine
Speaker 1: still retain some like core of wolverine and it was
Speaker 1: she's infected with the brood. And here I think you
Speaker 1: could argue that Gambit not enthralling Rogue is a hint
Speaker 1: that there's still.
Speaker 3: Like the good guy. Definitely, I think inside.
Speaker 1: She's she's Gambit. She's not sure if she should be
Speaker 1: relieved or afraid that he's back. As Death Gambit tells
Speaker 1: her the original story of Apocalypse fault.
Speaker 3: So outrageous, like thistable, This is so absurd. I'm just
Speaker 3: like not listening to him anymore because this is not
Speaker 3: you talking. This is like, like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: This is crazy. Imagine if you, like you get back
Speaker 1: together with your like the love who you lost, who
Speaker 1: think we're like, oh my god, like I can't believe.
Speaker 1: I can't bel I'm seeing you again. And the first
Speaker 1: thing they do is go, well, let me tell you
Speaker 1: about my boss's first girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, well my boss is best golfriend one hundred
Speaker 3: years ago, let me talk you about that, or in
Speaker 3: this case, three thousand years ago.
Speaker 1: Truly crazy. So he tells her, tells her about this person.
Speaker 1: It's Precist from ancient Egypt who broke his heart and
Speaker 1: fled to the bayou with a with a fragment of
Speaker 1: Apocalypse's power. And guess what she started the Thieves and
Speaker 1: Assassin's Guild. Or she is like the main dsh around
Speaker 1: whom crazy gambits families. The Thieves and Assassin Guild revolves
Speaker 1: around this deity in some way anyway, She's got this
Speaker 1: row like and it could make rogue immortal like him,
Speaker 1: but Gambit wants rogue basically to make the choice to.
Speaker 3: Do crazy things just like makes like no, honestly, none
Speaker 3: of this makes any sense. It's like getting turned into
Speaker 3: a courtman obviously adds your brain because it's a bad
Speaker 3: fininal box.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break in the river back and
Speaker 1: we're at Gambit and the Thralls begin the ritual to
Speaker 1: summon Apocalypse's ex girlfriend, the External, the deity around around
Speaker 1: which the Assassin's guild revolves. She pops in and the
Speaker 1: media is immediately is like, remy, you don't you don't
Speaker 1: smell right. There's something wrong with you. You're dumb. Is off, baby,
Speaker 1: you're different now. So she flips out attacks him, but
Speaker 1: he's like easily, with very little effort kills her. Craftsman
Speaker 1: and X Force arrive. Now you've got a big fight
Speaker 1: with the Thralls. It's great action, all the action. I
Speaker 1: always say it every single episode, but all the fights
Speaker 1: are great.
Speaker 3: They've done a really good job with the consistency this season.
Speaker 3: I think it's not even just a few breakout moments,
Speaker 3: like this is going to be a series people go
Speaker 3: back to watch because when you're reading a comic book.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just think like, wow, imagine if that was real.
Speaker 3: That's what we always wanted for.
Speaker 4: This is it.
Speaker 3: But we get these moments right where it really feels like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, like you're seeing these greats. I mean,
Speaker 3: the external like crazy that's always been I'm like, I
Speaker 3: want to do it. See him at least called externals,
Speaker 3: I know. And again quailed off immediately Ripiza. But yeah,
Speaker 3: just like so the action is really really great. And
Speaker 3: this is another she had a good squence for five
Speaker 3: thousand years. Yeah, I was going to be like at
Speaker 3: least at least a few hundreds.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, Professor X I oh wait. First, Gambit takes
Speaker 1: the Externals gem that can imbue immortality and binds it
Speaker 1: to Rogue. Professor X then tries to be like, Gambit,
Speaker 1: don't do this, Like you don't want to do this.
Speaker 1: They have a battle on the astral plane, and you know,
Speaker 1: Exavier trying to talk reason too. Remy Lebau in the
Speaker 1: astral plane. Now Apocalypse has taken the space that has
Speaker 1: that Remy has left. He's there, he's talking shit to
Speaker 1: Professor Oh yeah, nonsense. He then pulls Gambit into his
Speaker 1: body and Professor X's mind begins to like just come apart.
Speaker 1: Then a light appears as Rogue reaches out to Remy.
Speaker 1: Because while this was happening.
Speaker 3: This Jason story is so see. I was going to say,
Speaker 3: you know, I feel like we maybe missed the trick.
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll do it for the finale, but I feel
Speaker 3: like this is like you have an uncle at the
Speaker 3: party who sits at the back. He just tells you
Speaker 3: the craziest story that was my dad, Like the stories
Speaker 3: that you could never believe because they had twenty different
Speaker 3: layas in every different character you never remembered was coming back.
Speaker 3: That is, this episode is fucking hilarious.
Speaker 1: Right, So while this was happening, Rogue appears in the
Speaker 1: astral plane somehow I'm not sure how the power of
Speaker 1: other than the power of love, and she sees a
Speaker 1: cleansed gambit in there. They the X Men at Cable
Speaker 1: considers taking a shot at gambit at Cleansed Gambit, but
Speaker 1: hesitates for fear of hitting Jean Gray. Xavier tells the
Speaker 1: team that Apocalypse won't stay contained in Remy's consciousness for
Speaker 1: much longer. They have to act or lose. To lose
Speaker 1: the opportunity of saving Gambit from Apocalypse Forever and then
Speaker 1: cable archangel Silock are ambushed by X Factor and agent
Speaker 1: Val Cooper, and she tells them, guess what, guys, We're
Speaker 1: not looking to arrest you this time. We want to
Speaker 1: team up and take down this threat. Let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break, crazy be back to talk about this crazy episode.
Speaker 3: I have to say, for all of our wild predictions,
Speaker 3: I don't know did we have a predict that we
Speaker 3: would end the episode with like Remy as like a humanoid.
Speaker 3: We thought we might get multiple horsemen, but now it
Speaker 3: seems like Remy is essentially going to be like a
Speaker 3: human version, Like he's Apocalypse's consciousness is in there and
Speaker 3: he's kind of the body. And that's where we leave it,
Speaker 3: which is just incredibly strange. And this episode went to
Speaker 3: a lot of really crazy places. Jason, what was your
Speaker 3: craziest part of the penultimate episode of season two.
Speaker 1: The craziest part was just like the complete media eras
Speaker 1: no background introduction of Remy's extended family right, and the
Speaker 1: fact that they're in a ancient assassin's thieves guild.
Speaker 3: Which is run by like a like preach run.
Speaker 1: By Apocalypse's ex girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Who's also a top sex girlfriend. I think because yes,
Speaker 3: like right so very stuff. Yes, yes so so the
Speaker 3: thing is like, this is one of those kind of
Speaker 3: classic deep poles because she's in the sixth episode of
Speaker 3: the old series of season season two of the old
Speaker 3: X Men animated series, like which is called X kind
Speaker 3: of Yours. But it's like, who's gonna remember that? Like,
Speaker 3: I feel I do feel like they could have gone
Speaker 3: a little bit more accessible hit, but the babes and assassins,
Speaker 3: Gill and especially External because that's a crazy character, wed character,
Speaker 3: a really weird character, and then they just got Do
Speaker 3: you feel like maybe this is a bit of that
Speaker 3: proof that they bit off a bit more than they
Speaker 3: could chew or do you think yeah, I do feel
Speaker 3: like they can fully land it in the finale. I
Speaker 3: just feel like there's so much to do at this point.
Speaker 1: I kind of feel that at this point, with the
Speaker 1: insane kind of lore drops that they are doing and
Speaker 1: the velocity of them and the just sheer amount of
Speaker 1: like story space that they are covering, that they can
Speaker 1: they can almost do anything at this point because they've
Speaker 1: been doing such They've been taking such crazy crazy swings. Yea,
Speaker 1: I mean really we just get introduced so many concepts
Speaker 1: in this episode, and listen, I'm loving. I do wonder
Speaker 1: how people who aren't X men pilled are taking it.
Speaker 1: But like, I think there's so much here super produced.
Speaker 3: Aaron did put some great questions in our chat to
Speaker 3: just kind of and I think this is a kind
Speaker 3: of a good point, which is like, could this have
Speaker 3: just been a if you just just focused on a
Speaker 3: pall collipse.
Speaker 1: Let's bring let's bring eron in to explain his idea
Speaker 1: for fixing the pacing. So you're fixing the pacing of
Speaker 1: the episode, of the piecing of.
Speaker 4: The season, the whole season up till now. I would
Speaker 4: say okay, because you know, I was a little bummed
Speaker 4: we got gambit as death for nineteen minutes, Like we're
Speaker 4: not even a full thing. Kind of he doesn't even
Speaker 4: spend all of you're talking about like if you die,
Speaker 4: you should sit out one season. He doesn't even he's
Speaker 4: not even death the entire episode here. He's you gotta
Speaker 4: be a character for a full yes episode.
Speaker 3: If you're not yea, Like you can't get renamed if
Speaker 3: you're not in it for the.
Speaker 4: Whole We're not changing the name on your trailer mid
Speaker 4: episode here.
Speaker 1: I think, so that's a great idea as well.
Speaker 4: My pitch would be episode one through four, we really
Speaker 4: are you know. I mean, this season started so strong,
Speaker 4: I think with episodes one, two, and three, and we
Speaker 4: get the split timeline and we don't really have anything
Speaker 4: in the modern era except for the Jubilee episode and
Speaker 4: X Force, which was great. I would have watched three
Speaker 4: more episodes of X Force hunting down horsemen. So I
Speaker 4: would have said, like, give us the first half of
Speaker 4: the season. Magneto's attempting to train and sabaure and like
Speaker 4: by the end of episode four, he kind of goes
Speaker 4: into ship and he turns into Apocalypse, but that gives
Speaker 4: us some more time with X Force, and then five
Speaker 4: through eight is Apocalypse searching for new horsemen. I love
Speaker 4: the horseman aspect of Apocalypse, Like that's one and and
Speaker 4: like he kind of came back to the modern era
Speaker 4: and got Gambit and didn't get the other three horsemen.
Speaker 4: And like I was wish casting who I would put
Speaker 4: as a horseman. I mean, I think it has to
Speaker 4: be people who have been in the last this season
Speaker 4: or previous season. So I would just bring Omega Red back,
Speaker 4: have him be Pestilence or something. I think, you know,
Speaker 4: I think obviously saber Tooth could could take on a
Speaker 4: role even though he was kind of a he wasn't
Speaker 4: a good guy, but he was.
Speaker 3: He's a fight yeah, he's been in that situation.
Speaker 4: And then I'm not gonna say Magneto because we need
Speaker 4: him to stay dead for a little bit. But I
Speaker 4: do feel like we could have had some you know,
Speaker 4: like in season one we get some good villains that
Speaker 4: could have been brought back. I don't know, I think
Speaker 4: you guys mentioned this on the you know, the Colossus
Speaker 4: episode Exodus is too strong. You can't just like bring
Speaker 4: him exactly as something. But we could definitely have some
Speaker 4: other like Pyro and Avalanche, like bring them back or something.
Speaker 4: And I loved five through eight to been that like assembly.
Speaker 4: I think the simple way to think about this, I
Speaker 4: agree with your your description of the issue. I think
Speaker 4: the way that the simple way that they should have
Speaker 4: constructed this is just like a A story, B story,
Speaker 4: C story. The A story is.
Speaker 1: Apocalypse versus the X Men and Apocalypse and Gambit. The
Speaker 1: B story could be like is Rogue going to kill
Speaker 1: Gambit or is she going to save are the X
Speaker 1: Men going to kill Gambit? Are they going to say
Speaker 1: save right right? And then the c plot is like
Speaker 1: X Force versus X Factor or X Factor versus the
Speaker 1: X Men, you know, like are they going to arrest
Speaker 1: them or are they going to join forces? That should
Speaker 1: have been it because it does. Again, I'm loving this
Speaker 1: season because I'm a freak. I've read all these these
Speaker 1: are the comics, the comics that got into comics. But
Speaker 1: it's it is is going. It's too dense.
Speaker 3: We can pretend it's like a well paced, well told
Speaker 3: and it's too fragmented. I would have loved to see
Speaker 3: your version. I think it makes a lot of sense,
Speaker 3: especially because I do feel like there's so many major
Speaker 3: arcs here that we really, you know, could have explored
Speaker 3: in more detail. But I still have an episode.
Speaker 4: Let's see, let's see how they bring it home.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. And also they could do five more they
Speaker 3: could do five more storylines in that two guys we
Speaker 3: don't know, so we can see it all happen. We
Speaker 3: can see it all happened.
Speaker 4: Did you you remember the legacy virus for bringing that
Speaker 4: back in episode nine.
Speaker 3: You said it wasn't going to be that.
Speaker 1: Well, now, is, and also like let's as a kind
Speaker 1: of longer considering the the idea about wish casting, I
Speaker 1: would like to wish cast this show to get back
Speaker 1: to the X Men the animated series type of episode
Speaker 1: delivery of twenty to twenty two like more Runway. I
Speaker 1: am like Disney just fired a bunch of animators in
Speaker 1: their company that they own. They fire the you know,
Speaker 1: their own.
Speaker 4: Pick stocks or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, AI is supposed to make our lives easier. What happened.
Speaker 1: There's no way you keep You have no excuses Disney
Speaker 1: Marvel to not give us twenty three episodes of X
Speaker 1: Men ninety seven next season. Figure it out.
Speaker 4: Figure out they've been doing this for years with the
Speaker 4: comic storylines where those those are not truncated into like
Speaker 4: we have to get through an entire thing in four weeks.
Speaker 3: So yeah, agree.
Speaker 1: Figure it out. If the if the animation needs to
Speaker 1: be five percent five percent worse, that's fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have just seen an animation on the original show.
Speaker 3: Looks like your memories might not be his fons.
Speaker 4: I don't know, just like shit monkey pop curling there
Speaker 4: because we all remember the final season when they really
Speaker 4: had no money on the animated series, and that the
Speaker 4: animation was horrible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, but but I'm saying there's a there's
Speaker 5: a key medium, there's a nice medium in between that
Speaker 5: where we could have it cost half the price and
Speaker 5: get like, how double the amount.
Speaker 1: I feel I mean, I feel like the animation for
Speaker 1: X Men, the animated series the final season had like
Speaker 1: a frames per second of like six or seven, like
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 3: Very actually exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: And and I think we could have like I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it needs to be a.
Speaker 3: That choppy, but again it's not full pan scaled. A
Speaker 3: little child could be a little top off. I'd send
Speaker 3: that note back. I agree.
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