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Speaker 1: This one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we made it to hump day. Here on one

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Speaker 2: of Bill's Live, Chris Brown steeps after review and plenty

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Speaker 2: to discuss today league wide, a bombshell article from ESPN

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Speaker 2: dot com which we'll discuss a little bit, along with

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Speaker 2: the latest confirmation of the team that will appear on

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Speaker 2: Hard Knocks, and some Saquon Barkley contract concerns for the

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Speaker 2: New York Giants. We'll get into all of that in

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Speaker 2: just a second. But topping the list, one Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: may have. We're still trying to corroborate this broken his

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Speaker 2: own burrito eating time record. He frequents frequents a local

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Speaker 2: establishment here a lot and literally houses burritos in record time.

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Speaker 2: We actually taped him during a commercial break finishing a burrito.

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Speaker 2: In our commercial breaks usually average about four and a

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Speaker 2: half minutes, and we have documented evidence of that in

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Speaker 2: which he completely destroyed a burrito in about four minutes

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Speaker 2: and twenty six seconds, even at time to wipe his

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Speaker 2: out yesterday to get a lunch. Naturally, it's a burrito again.

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Speaker 2: He comes back to the office and says Brownie, I

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Speaker 2: may have broken my own record. I said, for what

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Speaker 2: he said, I ate a burrito at a stoplight? Said

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Speaker 2: what what?

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a normal stop light. It was the stop

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Speaker 1: light up in Orchard Park at seven corners up there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so a little bit longer stop light by the kiss.

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Speaker 2: But I would say on average, and I could be

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Speaker 2: way off on this, this is just a guesstimate on

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Speaker 2: my part. I would say most four way stop intersections,

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Speaker 2: the traffic light averages two minutes, right, maybe more than that,

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Speaker 2: They might set the timer for longer to get more

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Speaker 2: five corners or seven corners?

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Speaker 1: I was on Southwestern.

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Speaker 2: Crosses Buffalo Road and come and Local Road comes in there, yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: So I would say, what will we say is a

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Speaker 2: three minutes for that traffic light. I got there, and

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Speaker 2: I got there, it had just yellowed a red. It

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Speaker 2: was yeah, yeah, it was okay. I'm gonna say I

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Speaker 2: think you broke your record, because I don't I don't

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Speaker 2: know of a traffic light on this planet. Because I

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Speaker 1: I was going hard, and well you must have been

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Speaker 1: what did you just hold your breath usually, you know,

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Speaker 1: because you know when I eat it, even the one

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Speaker 1: I choked on that thing right there. No, but you

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Speaker 1: know how it is, I'm sitting I don't even know

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Speaker 2: It's a park of this man.

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Speaker 1: Virtually, I'm sitting in a parking lot virtually, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm just I am absolutely mowing this

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Speaker 1: tell by the traffic patterns, like the.

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Speaker 2: Green light, you know, the green arrow goes.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's certain things that happen first because you

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Speaker 1: can tell when it's going to be your turn next.

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Speaker 1: I was my lights change when I pushed the last

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Speaker 2: That's great, and congratulations to you on that. There are

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Speaker 2: other congratulations in order, as basically for the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: The Pro Football Hall of Fame has just announced sixty

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Speaker 2: semi finalists for the class of twenty twenty four in

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Speaker 2: the Senior Coach Contributor categories, a category in which you

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Speaker 1: Seriously, where did that come out?

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Speaker 2: Just crossed literally thirty seconds ago. You're talking about a

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Speaker 1: I appreciate, But I got no shot at that. I'm

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Speaker 2: Well, I like you better than a bunch of names

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Speaker 2: of Fame. That's the category that Steve now sits in

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Speaker 2: along with a bunch of other players. And you're talking

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Speaker 2: This list will be reduced to a candidate's list of

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Speaker 2: So we'll see where it goes. But that's where we're

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Speaker 1: Where are you seeing it?

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Speaker 2: I got it on an email.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just kind of. I just know that our

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Speaker 2: tell Stevie belongs in the Hall of Fame. So knowing

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Speaker 2: the next subject around the NFL, brought to you by

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Speaker 2: Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills and

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Speaker 2: the Giants and running back Saquon Barkley are nowhere on

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Speaker 2: a new contract. That according to ESPN's Diana Rascini, who

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Speaker 2: is reporting that the two sides remain at a stalemate now.

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Speaker 2: The deadline to strike a long term deal is coming

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Speaker 2: up fast. Here It's Monday at four pm. Barkley's made

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Speaker 2: it clear to the Giants the franchise tag is undesirable

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Speaker 2: and his availability for Week one against the Cowboys, according

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Speaker 2: to Racini, will be in serious question if he does

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Speaker 1: You got to, I mean, that's if you want to get.

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Speaker 1: If you want it, you got to make it happen.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, and I'm not saying anything

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Speaker 1: about the Giants. They certainly Brian dabol did an outstanding

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Speaker 1: And they won a playoff game too, so way ahead

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Speaker 1: If that's the case. If you're Brian Dabol and Joe Shane, guys,

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Speaker 2: The kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, it might buy him some slack for the

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I don't know that that flies in New

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Speaker 2: I yeah, you're right, But this is this is tricky

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Speaker 2: Sure so, but as we know, the running back position

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Speaker 2: has been devalued in an extraordinary fashion this offseason. We

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Speaker 2: making eleven million dollars a year or more. That number

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Speaker 2: So the Giants clearly want to follow that line of

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Speaker 1: Because no pun intended.

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Speaker 2: to sign it. Yeah, right, So because he got tagged

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Speaker 2: I want to say it's ten nine somewhere around there.

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Speaker 1: Those guys nobody's making any money at that spot, so.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know how he doesn't want to sign it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you walk away from that.

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Speaker 2: He clearly thinks he's worth more.

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Speaker 2: The impetus to pay him more to me is pretty

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Speaker 2: Do you blink? You sign this tender? He clearly thinks

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Speaker 1: And I get it.

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Speaker 2: I know what he's driving at here, but I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't deny that for a second. He said the

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's not the value, Maybe it's the length, like

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Speaker 2: know if that's gonna happen, but I guess. I mean

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Speaker 1: I think if I'm if I'm Saquon, I signed the deal,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's the alternative.

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Speaker 2: Get it again if you Yeah, and it'll be one

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty percent more than ten. What's the by rule?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and his agent may have to address it that way,

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Speaker 2: We should probably take that this year. You light it up,

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Speaker 2: Which is which runs completely counter to what most players say,

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Speaker 1: No, because I think I think because it's guaranteed money

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Speaker 2: That would be unique because I don't know that. That's

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Speaker 2: New York Jets will be the team featured in this

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Speaker 2: I think there are obvious reasons. The Saints, Bears and

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Speaker 1: But there is no other choice this year in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: And the Jets also report for training camp in a week.

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Speaker 1: They have got what happens, and you can understand most

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Speaker 1: It's it's a lot of transparency. A lot of a

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Speaker 2: Will watch and edit out what they don't want out there.

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Speaker 2: But you know what that does. It takes time. It

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Speaker 1: Here. What happens is the club will bring They'll have

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Speaker 1: somebody say, hey, look, dispatch this and if there's something

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Speaker 1: that the hard knocks people, oh, you gotta let us

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Speaker 1: show that. Gotta then the guy then the then you

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Speaker 1: and I would take it to Sean McDermott and say, Sean,

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Speaker 1: they really want to show this what do you think

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Speaker 1: And Sean says no, so you take it back and

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Speaker 1: say no, that's it. And it would be a guy,

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Speaker 1: a media person media in either media relations, either somebody

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Speaker 1: already hired, or they'll bring somebody in and say what

443
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Speaker 1: about it? You know, and uh, but they have you know,

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Speaker 1: they they look at every single moment of oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: raw footage and say yes or no. And you know,

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Speaker 1: they throw a lot of stuff out because there's vocabulary,

447
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Speaker 1: play calls, formations, personnel evaluations, discussions and stuff that they

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Speaker 1: don't want out there.

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Speaker 2: I will be very interested to see what is screened

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Speaker 2: out and how how desensitized hard Let me tell you this,

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Speaker 2: though the footage is hard, knocks outtakes.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would pay per view that. I would

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Speaker 1: buy that. I would pay for that.

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Speaker 2: I still don't know how you get clearance for that,

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Speaker 2: but I know what you're saying. You know, that's where

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Speaker 2: the gold is.

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Speaker 1: That's where the gold is. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: A giganticespn dot com story maybe about a five thousand

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Speaker 2: worder today about the leaked emails from then Monday Night

460
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Speaker 2: football analyst John Gruden to Washington then head coach Well

461
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Speaker 2: when he sent the emails yes, he was Monday Night

462
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Speaker 2: Football analyst, because those were from ten years ago that

463
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Speaker 2: got leaked and triggered the ouster of then Raiders coach

464
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Speaker 2: John Gruden ten years later. And if you want to

465
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Speaker 2: go down memory lane on this, it is a very detailed,

466
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Speaker 2: in depth investigative story on who they believe leaked the emails,

467
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Speaker 2: what the motivations were, how the league was intertwined with this,

468
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Speaker 2: along with a host of other players, and maybe the

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Speaker 2: most interesting thing is the assertion that Daniel Snyder leaked

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Speaker 2: the Gruden emails as a peace offering to Roger Goodell,

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Speaker 2: when some argue that he was trying to at least

472
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Speaker 2: in the story, that Snyder was trying to serve himself

473
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Speaker 2: by taking the heat off of him and putting it

474
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Speaker 2: on Gruden, you know, as a racist based on the

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Speaker 2: contents of his emails, which made fun of Demorris Smith,

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Speaker 2: the former executive director of the NFLPA and commissioner Goodell

477
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Speaker 2: as well. So it's you want to talk about twists and.

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Speaker 1: What it amounts to a rabbit hole. It is And

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Speaker 1: for most people, most football fans, they don't it's not

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Speaker 1: worth it. If they don't want to, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: to them, To Commander fans and to perhaps Raiders fans,

482
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Speaker 1: they'll find it a little more interesting. But it amounts

483
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Speaker 1: to everybody involved pointing the finger for the leaked emails

484
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Speaker 1: at everybody else, and that there's some reports where the

485
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Speaker 1: object of some of the derisive remarks was d Maurice Smith,

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Speaker 1: the NFLPA president executive director, that he leaked them in

487
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Speaker 1: order because he was about to get voted on at

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Speaker 1: to be re election and he knew it would it

489
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Speaker 1: would soon have the votes, he didn't have the votes,

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Speaker 1: and he knew it would swing it in his favor.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, it's been it was reported by one

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Speaker 1: of them in the article that he'd bragged about that.

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Speaker 2: Being the reason, and that he had got re elected

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Speaker 2: by one vote.

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Speaker 1: He got re elected by one vote, and there was

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Speaker 1: every reason to believe that the NFL wanted De Maurice

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Speaker 1: Smith to get re elected because they got the best

498
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Speaker 1: of him in negotiations anyway, two times over twice. That's

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Speaker 1: why he was up for reelections, because the league was

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Speaker 1: out maneuvering him at every turn and players didn't like it,

501
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Speaker 1: and he and he kind of took he didn't take

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Speaker 1: credit for it. But he was bragging it. It looked

503
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Speaker 1: like he's the one who leaked it because he knew

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Speaker 1: it would put him over the top and get a

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Speaker 1: votes he needed to get reelected. And the league wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have leaked him because they knew that too, and that,

507
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Speaker 1: you know. So it's this guy's saying they did it.

508
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Speaker 1: They're saying this other guy did it, and the other

509
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Speaker 1: guy's saying somebody else did it. It's a little bit

510
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Speaker 1: of he said she It's a lot of he said,

511
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Speaker 1: she said, But it really looks like kids fighting in

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Speaker 1: a school years.

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Speaker 2: A lot of self serving parties, a lot of self

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Speaker 2: serving parties.

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Speaker 1: It's true.

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Speaker 2: The most interesting thing that I think came out of

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Speaker 2: just reading the whole thing, and my eyes were getting

518
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Speaker 2: blurry by the end of it. The discovery process in

519
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Speaker 2: some of the lawsuits that Gruden has filed against the

520
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Speaker 2: league is expected to track down the true origin of

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Speaker 2: where the emails leaked from, because they have like experts

522
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Speaker 2: in digital forensics that are working with Gruden's lawyers to

523
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Speaker 2: find the trail of emails and where they trace back

524
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Speaker 2: to to find the true leaker of the email. How

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Speaker 2: long that's going to take, I'm not going to pretend

526
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Speaker 2: to know, but man, that's going to be interesting and

527
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Speaker 2: when and you.

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Speaker 1: Know, one of the main suspects is Order of the

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Speaker 1: Commanders Dan Snyder, who the problem with it is everybody

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Speaker 1: seemed to have some way of benefiting from those leaked

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Speaker 1: emails except John Gruden, who was the you know, the

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Speaker 1: target of it. So yep, you know it's it's a

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Speaker 1: you're right, it's like four thousand words. So if you're

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Speaker 1: one of those people who just likes headlines.

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Speaker 2: Well there's not a lot going on right now. So

536
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Speaker 2: if you've got the time, give it a read. It's

537
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Speaker 2: it's interesting, to say the least. It's just there's so

538
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: many twists and turns to it. It's like you're trying.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to keep track of it all.

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Speaker 1: And the thing you forget too is, you know, there's

541
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Speaker 1: a lot of money, yes, flying around.

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Speaker 2: But we'll leave that on the side burner because we

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Speaker 2: have Bills to talk with you today. And the question

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Speaker 2: for today's topic of conversation is this, Aside from John Allen,

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Speaker 2: who's the most important Bills players on offense for this season?

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Speaker 2: Who's the most important player on offense for this season

547
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Speaker 2: besides Josh Josh is an obvious answer here, so let's

548
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Speaker 2: just sit him over here and debate the rest of

549
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Speaker 2: the offensive roster. Who is the most important Bill's player

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Speaker 2: on offense for this coming season? You tell us at

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Speaker 2: eight oh three oh five fifty one eight and eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty. We are wide open for

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Speaker 2: your phone calls for the rest of the show, So

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Speaker 2: jump on board, weigh in with us, and we'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you next here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 2: Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, aside from

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, who do you believe is the most critical

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Speaker 2: Bills player on offense for this coming season? Eight oh

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Speaker 2: three oh five fifty the number to get on board.

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Speaker 2: You get an open line for you. One, eight and

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Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty. I was in the

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Speaker 2: numbers to get on board. And we're gonna lead off

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Speaker 2: today with Anthony in Buffalo. What do you got for

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Speaker 2: his Anthony? You're on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 5: Hi, guys, it's an honor to talk to you, guys.

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Speaker 6: Steve, You're a legend in this town.

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Speaker 5: So that's fantastic.

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Speaker 6: So I just wanted to say I don't really have

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Speaker 6: a player that I'm more interested in. It's more so

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Speaker 6: Ken Dorsey, Okay, because if if he doesn't, you know,

571
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Speaker 6: get everything, you know, get everybody on the same page,

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Speaker 6: it don't matter who's on the offense, it's gonna stall

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Speaker 6: out like we've got like you know, a lot of

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Speaker 6: people felt at the end of the season, it's just

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Speaker 6: kind of the offense was stalling. Yeah, so hopefully he

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Speaker 6: you know, that's my important piece to the puzzle is

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Speaker 6: if everyone's on the same page and Dorsey gets everybody

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Speaker 6: together and you know, eleven man union and it's gonna

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Speaker 6: make magic happen this year. So that's my important guide

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Speaker 6: to the to the offense.

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Speaker 2: I like that. I like the creativity there. Anthony going

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Speaker 2: off the board a little bit, and yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: it's certainly an easy argument to make. I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: the guy that's got to pull it all together, whether

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Speaker 2: it's in finding a way to incorporate the rookie Dalton

586
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Speaker 2: Kincaid and work the middle of the field to pull

587
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Speaker 2: attention away from Stefan Diggs, or how he's going to

588
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: work the slot receiver position. Is that going to be

589
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Speaker 2: one guy manning that spot or is it going to

590
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Speaker 2: be a committee type position between Deontay Hardy, Khalil Shakir

591
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Speaker 2: and Trent Sherfield. How is he going to make the

592
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Speaker 2: playmaking abilities of James Cook more effective in the scope

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Speaker 2: of this offense. So yeah, there's a lot on his

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Speaker 2: plate to figure out before they get to September.

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Speaker 1: And an interesting question a little bit would also be

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Speaker 1: how different were they last year than they were the

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Speaker 1: year before? And I'm just doing a quick quick check here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, and while you do that, I

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Speaker 2: will just say this, Anthony, Right as the season went on,

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Speaker 2: the offense did become or appear to have to be

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Speaker 2: a heavier lift each week to garnish and have the

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Speaker 2: same production that it did through the first six seven

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Speaker 2: weeks of the season.

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Speaker 1: Two things are three things that I would say that

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Speaker 1: you can point to that probably are not on Ken

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Speaker 1: Dorsey drops, turnovers and Josh Allen's elbow. Yep, those three things,

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Speaker 1: you know, hamstrung their ability and made it look probably

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Speaker 1: worse than.

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Speaker 2: It was, and they all became more prominent problems after

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Speaker 2: Week seven. The red zone turnovers by Josh Allen and

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Speaker 2: the offense started cropping up as a weekly problem in

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Speaker 2: week seven and then the injury happened in Week nine,

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Speaker 2: and the drop passes, unfortunately, were a problem that went

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Speaker 2: from front to back during the course of the season,

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Speaker 2: which is why they finished second in the league and drops.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, those are three very good reasons, and none

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Speaker 2: of them have to do with play calling.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 1: They scored more points than they did the year before

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Speaker 1: under Brian dabol.

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Speaker 2: Despite the heavy lift that the offense had in the

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Speaker 2: second half of all the injuries they being.

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Speaker 1: In twenty one, they were number two overall in yards

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Speaker 1: per in yards a game, total yards. Yeah, they were

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Speaker 1: number one overall the yards per play. In twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: they were number four and number seven. This last year

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Speaker 1: fourth overall and seventh in yards per play, they were

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Speaker 1: tenth in twelfth, they were tenth and twelfth in make

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Speaker 1: sure I get this right, they were tenth and twelfth

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Speaker 1: in rushing yards a game and rushing yards per play

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Speaker 1: this last year. A year before they were two and

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Speaker 1: second and fourth in those in those instances, and then

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. All, so twenty twenty one, I'm sorry. Also,

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Speaker 1: they were second in the league in passing yards a

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Speaker 1: game and first in the league in yards passing yards

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Speaker 1: per play. This last year they were fourth in the

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Speaker 1: league and eight and eighth in yards per play, so

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Speaker 1: they had dropped a little bit. But the simple fact

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Speaker 1: of the matter is what we were talking about, the drops,

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Speaker 1: the turnovers, Josh Allen's elbow, and the fact that overall

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Speaker 1: they scored more points per game.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this team was twenty twenty seven turnovers. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in a sixteen game season. They even play seventeen games

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Speaker 2: because the other one got canceled. So sixteen games, twenty

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Speaker 2: seven turnovers. It was second most in the league to

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Speaker 2: the Houston Texans. The Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, and they had the second pick in the draft,

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Speaker 1: and they still only lost three of those sixteen games

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Speaker 1: by totally eight points. They were doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: things right, And I'm and I get it. It's the

652
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Speaker 1: big check change from twenty twenty two or twenty twenty

653
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: one to twenty twenty two was the offensive coordinator. But man,

654
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: oh man, I do not know how you lay that

655
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: at the feet of Ken Dorsey when they're dropping passes

656
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: at a higher rate than almost everybody in the league

657
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: and turning it over at a higher biggest but the.

658
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Speaker 2: Biggest problems were execution issues and John, well, yeah, and

659
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: turnovers Josh was her his decision making and you know,

660
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: as you said, in addition to turnovers, drop passes, that's

661
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: an execution issue. Whether it's the quarterbacks pass being off

662
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: the mark or or receiving target flat out dropping a football,

663
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: whoever it is, it still comes back to execution. Yeah,

664
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Speaker 2: at some.

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Speaker 1: Point though, I think the execution you can you the

666
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: coordinator does have a hand in that. He's got the

667
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: he's got to get those guys right. If they're not

668
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: executing right, they're not getting coached up well enough at

669
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: times anyway. But that means that means being in the

670
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: right spot, knowing what you're supposed to do, being where

671
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be. Now, the drops and the turnovers,

672
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: those are totally those are totally player related me And

673
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: we'll never know if a turnover resulted because the receiver

674
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: was running the wrong route and Josh had to come

675
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: off him late and make a bad throw or throw

676
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: into a tighter window because the first guy was wrong,

677
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. That's coaching and stuff like that.

678
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: But we'll never know the answer to that. But the

679
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: bottom line too is they were still top ten and

680
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: all the major categories and they scored more points than

681
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: they did in twenty twenty one.

682
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: From Anthony and Buffalo to Anthony in Rochester. Next, what

683
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: do you got for us? Anthony?

684
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, hope you're enjoying your summer.

685
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 7: Do best.

686
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 9: I was thought about being sweat here and say it's

687
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 9: Spencer Brown or making a case for Dalton King Kaid.

688
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 9: I think in Kate's gonna be awesome, but a rookie year,

689
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 9: I think that's a lot to ask. It's got to

690
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 9: be number fourteen. I gotta go for the low hanging

691
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 9: cruit here. Everything about him being our one A. I

692
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 9: remember seeing seeing interviews when Josh and Stefan Wood would

693
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 9: be doing postgame interviews together and I would be sitting

694
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 9: there by myself just just smiling because you could feel

695
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 9: the you could feel the brotherhood. And I think everything

696
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 9: that Coach McDermott is built here with our with our

697
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 9: great culture.

698
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

699
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Speaker 9: Bringing him back into the fold, hopefully getting things smoothed out.

700
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 9: I hopefully, I hope that maybe you guys can even

701
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 9: shed a little light on this as to your perspective.

702
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 9: I know it's been beaten into the ground, but my

703
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 9: heart really did break a little bit with all this

704
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 9: hoopla going on at OTAs, and I really hope it

705
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 9: was just you know, media looking looking for something that

706
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 9: really wasn't there. I would really be heartbroken if some if,

707
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 9: somehow he left Buffalo the same way he left Minnesota.

708
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 9: I just think he's an integral part in this offense.

709
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 9: His brotherhood with Josh and the camaraderie. He's a great leader.

710
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 9: Uh just everything about him. I think Number four team's

711
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 9: got to be the stir that makes the drink, so

712
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 9: to speak.

713
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it all makes it all makes Yeah,

714
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,479
Speaker 2: thanks Anthony. Sorry we got to get to some other people.

715
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, I get why you would say Diggs.

716
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 2: I mean, even Josh said during what I think is

717
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: just going to be a blip on the radar in

718
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: the long run. Here, even Josh said, this doesn't work

719
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: without Stefan. He's right, it doesn't. I guess you might

720
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: pick somebody else because you look at the question differently,

721
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: you know, aside from Josh Allen, who's the most important

722
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: Bills player on offense? A lot of people I think

723
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: are gonna say Digs. But what if you look at

724
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 2: it from this perspective, who is the most important Bills

725
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: player on the offense to change the fortunes of it

726
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: because Diggs has been a constant, a staple, and it's

727
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: almost like you expect that to continue, right, So what

728
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 2: else is going to change the fortunes of this offense?

729
00:39:59,760 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 6: Who?

730
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: What play? Who is that on the Bills offense? It's

731
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: almost kind of how I look at it. And that's

732
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Speaker 2: why I would say somebody like an adult in Kincaid,

733
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Speaker 2: or maybe it's a Deontay Hardy, or maybe it's James.

734
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Speaker 1: Cook, you like.

735
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Speaker 2: So for me, it's almost like Diggs is a given,

736
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Speaker 2: so let me think about somebody else. That's kind of

737
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Speaker 2: how I formulated it in my head. I'm not saying

738
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Speaker 2: any way is right or wrong, but that's kind of

739
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Speaker 2: how I looked at it.

740
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, differently, and it seems obvious to

741
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Speaker 1: And I'll say this about your take on you know,

742
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 1: you watch Digs and Josh together and and I would

743
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: it's our view. And I don't want to speak for Brownie,

744
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: but we've been talking about it. This Digs thing is

745
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: the the I don't know, finger quotes, whatever you want

746
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: to call it. Digs situation is nothing I think Steph

747
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: Diggs and Josh Allen are as close as they've ever been.

748
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: I think they like each other. They're gonna they're gonna

749
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: play well together. Josh is gonna feed him the football,

750
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Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna I think they're gonna continue

751
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: to play awesome together. I think they're gonna be every

752
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: bit as in the long run, they're gonna be every

753
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: bit as good as Jim Kelly Andre Reid were. Uh,

754
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna have that kind of relationship and that kind

755
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: of dual identity. I just that's where it's gonna go,

756
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: and I think that's where it's headed. And I don't

757
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: think anything is gonna derail that. And I think that's

758
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: a good call. Steph Diggs is an enormous part of

759
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: this offense. He is an elite wide receiver. You gotta

760
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: have at least one to play well offensively in the NFL,

761
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: and he's the Bills guy. So next to Josh. You're right. Uh,

762
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can make a case for

763
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Speaker 1: anybody being more important than he is. But like Brownie said,

764
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: he's so good and has been so good. Yeah, of

765
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: course he's gonna be there, right.

766
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Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, that's what I'm saying, I almost treat him

767
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: like as a given over. I'm gonna put him over

768
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 2: here in this box. Let me try to find somebody

769
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: else that's super important to raising the level of play

770
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: of this offense as a collective, and I think that's

771
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 2: where the conversation gets interesting. We got plenty of people

772
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Speaker 2: on hold. We will get to you all in due time.

773
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,040
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Speaker 2: Joe and Williams Bill when we get back here on

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Speaker 2: if you're interested. Back to the phones though, where we're

790
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: asking you who is the most important Bills player on

791
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: offense aside from Josh Allen. Back to the phones and

792
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: as promised, leading us off as Joe and Williamsville, what

793
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: do you got for us?

794
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 5: Joe, Hey, Stephen, Chris, thanks for taking my call. I'm

795
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 5: going to answer your question in a roundabout way and

796
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 5: say the second most important player is the functionality of

797
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 5: the offensive line. If the offensive line is in past

798
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 5: protecting Allen, the receivers aren't going to do well. Allen's

799
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 5: not going to do well. If they're not opening those

800
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 5: for the running backs, the running backs aren't going to

801
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 5: do well. And if they're getting penalties like holding or

802
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 5: offside or in motion, you know that's going to stall drives.

803
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 5: So the play of the offensive line. They have to

804
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 5: be coordinated and play well as a group in order

805
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 5: for the offense to function. I know that's not picking

806
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 5: a particular player, but like I said, you know, Diggs

807
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 5: or Kincaid or Harris or Cook, they're not going to

808
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 5: be able to do well if the offensive line isn't producing,

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Speaker 5: I'll hang up and I'll listen to your comments. Thanks, guys, All.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I don't mind creativity, Joe, you want to

811
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: pick the whole offensive line, go ahead.

812
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly the Bills put a lot of effort into

813
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: that position group this year.

814
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: Guards special in particular.

815
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's we'll see if it pays dividends in

816
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: the running game and pass protection and their ability to

817
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: be more versatile offensively and keep the team the defense

818
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: they're playing guessing as to whether it's going to be

819
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: a runner pass if they can get Damien Harrison, Latavious

820
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: Murray and James Cook involved and not become predictable and

821
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: yet productive in whatever they do, they're gonna be a handful.

822
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: And now they were a handful last year. That's not

823
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: going to change. But the way the season ended last year,

824
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: you know, the injuries and the incidence that happened with

825
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: DeMar with everything else that was going on, it really

826
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: Brownie has rightfully described it as being a heavy looked

827
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: like a heavy lift. They started out the season, let's

828
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: not fore. They started out the season hanging thirty one

829
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: on the world champs and then forty one on the

830
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: number one seed in the AFC consecutive weeks to start

831
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: the season, So it was it was kind of hard

832
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: not to go a little downhill from there. They were

833
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: mowing people, and then they go to Miami and had

834
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: to you know, fight through the kind of heat that

835
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: they had, and they absolutely.

836
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: Right.

837
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Speaker 1: And you go back and look at that game. The

838
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: Bills were like just all over. They were killed. They

839
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: were ever on that team. They were down, they were

840
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: up and down the field running and they couldn't get

841
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: it in the end zone for whatever reason.

842
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: And they couldn't, you know, they couldn't.

843
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: They couldn't get him off the field let alone, you know,

844
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: and the Bills couldn't get in the zone. It's the

845
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: craziest thing you'll ever see. Uh. They were absolutely crushing

846
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: people at the beginning of the last season. Even in losses,

847
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: those teams were walking out of They're going, oh my gosh,

848
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: I can't believe we won that game. And so I

849
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: would anticipate It's given me a lot of that this year.

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00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

851
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: This offensive line the way and you know, uh, Joe

852
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: and Williams, will you said it, I think you've got

853
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: to raise your level of expectation, even from a year

854
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: ago when they were so good, about what this offensive

855
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: line is going to be able to do and how

856
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: it's going to manifest itself. We're going to run the

857
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: ball whenever we want throw it, and well, we're not

858
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: playing in a vacuum. It's not going to look that easy.

859
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: But man, oh man, I think the at the end

860
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: of the season, when you look back, I think the

861
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: guy you asked, Josh Allen and he say, what about

862
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: that off Enzilania goes, oh, man, I can't believe how

863
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: good they were. We may not be able to tell

864
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: it because it's a throwing league and if Josh is

865
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: running around, nobody's going to sack him anyway. But I

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Speaker 1: think Josh Ken, Dorsey, Latavious Murray, James Cook, those guys

867
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Speaker 1: will all be able to tell you like, wow, those

868
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Speaker 1: guys really did a nice job.

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Speaker 2: That's what I think, and that would make everybody very happy,

870
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: not only on the field but in the stands. Let's

871
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Speaker 2: go back to the phones and to Steve in Syracuse next.

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00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: What do you got for Steve?

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00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 7: Thanks for taking my call in regard to aside from

874
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Speaker 7: Josh Yllen's most important player in that group of players,

875
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Speaker 7: But the player itself obviously is the center. Nothing happens

876
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Speaker 7: without a good center. Everything goes. None of these other

877
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Speaker 7: players are going to get anything accomplished without having a

878
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 7: good center. He starts the whole thing off.

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00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's a valid point, Steve, so thank

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00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: you for making it. And I've said it on this

881
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: show before. I thought Mitch Morris had his best season

882
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: in Bill's uniform last year, so hopeful that continues. The

883
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: good news is, and let's not forget this, Steve, he

884
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 2: had his in my estimation anyway, he had his best

885
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: season in a Bill's uniform and he did it with

886
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: a bum elbow on his snapping arm. I mean, that

887
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: guy had to get a cleanout proced uuring the off season.

888
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 2: So coming into this season, you would hope he's healthier

889
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 2: and able to perform even more consistently. Now there could

890
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Speaker 2: be some new people to get used to. The general

891
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: assumption is Connor McGovern will be the starting left guard

892
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: in place of the departed Roger Saffold. Right guard figures

893
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: to be a position of competition, as Ryan Bates will

894
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Speaker 2: see competition from Osiris Torrents and David Edwards in training camp,

895
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 2: and we'll have to just wait and see where that goes.

896
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, Josh has said in a number

897
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Speaker 2: of times like he trusts Mitch Morris implicitly to get

898
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Speaker 2: the calls right for the protections, adjustments, pre snap, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: And he's done a bang up job of that. And

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Speaker 2: I would say on a bigger, what's anticipated to be

901
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: a bigger, girthier offensive line, he's arguably your most mobile

902
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Speaker 2: guy going forward.

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Speaker 1: To Yeah, yeah, more certainly. And I said it earlier today.

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Speaker 1: The center is the guy who kind of starts things.

905
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: Maybe it was yesterday I said we were talking about

906
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: the interior offensive line play. Everybody's got to con everybody's

907
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: got to communicate. The center makes calls like the middle

908
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: linebacker makes calls on defense. They're always talking and communicating.

909
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: The center's yelling at his guard tackle on one side,

910
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: yelling his guard tackle on the other, and they all

911
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: take his cue as to what they're looking at, even

912
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: if they don't agree with it. What he says makes

913
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: whatever rules they have, it applies the rules to that front.

914
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: So even if it makes it difficult for you, you

915
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: got to abide by the rules because that's what everybody

916
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: else is doing.

917
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: You got to work together. The center begins.

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Speaker 1: All that starts of af of that, and because of that,

919
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: he's got to be a really sharp and astute guy,

920
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: really good communicator, and be a decisive leader because he's

921
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: got to make the right calls, because if you start

922
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 1: making the wrong calls, you're going to hear it from

923
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: your guys and you don't stay there very long. Mitch

924
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Speaker 1: Morris has been a really good Buffalo bill during his

925
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: time here, and I think they have lean. I think

926
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Speaker 1: he's has as much as a center can has contributed

927
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Speaker 1: to Josh's success like any center really would for a

928
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: great quarterback. Those guys talk a lot, particularly in past

929
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: protection and all of that. I've got countless stories about

930
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: Kent Hull and Jim Kelly and the communications they had

931
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: on the field during games and then of course off

932
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: the field and some more fun and lighthearted stuff. But

933
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Speaker 1: Mitch Morris is crucial because of the responsibility has and

934
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: also the way he lives up to.

935
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Speaker 2: That break time for us here, if you're holding an

936
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 2: eight oh three oh five fifty, we will get to you,

937
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: as we said, wide open for phone calls. The rest

938
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Speaker 2: of the way here today, but we do have open

939
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Speaker 2: lines for you there as well. EIGHTO three oh five

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Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight five point fifty two five point fifty.

941
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Speaker 2: Aside from Josh Allen, who do you think is the

942
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: most important Bill's player on offense for this upcoming season?

943
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Speaker 2: You let us know when we join you for hour

944
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: number two next here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Stay tune. This is One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

946
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 10: Our number two here on Wednesday, Chris Bratski's after you

947
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 10: discussing the most important player on the Bill's offense for

948
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Speaker 10: the twenty twenty three season.

949
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Speaker 2: Aside from the quarterback, we are not counting Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: in this equation eight oh three five point fifty to

951
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Speaker 2: get on board one eight eight eight five fifty two

952
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 2: five fifty. You got a couple of open lines for

953
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: you there, or you can hit us up on the

954
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: tweet sheet at One Bill's Live and we go right

955
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Speaker 2: back to the phones. We have people waiting patiently and

956
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: we go to case. Sorry, Cassidy and Batavia, what do

957
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: you got for us? Cassidy?

958
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 11: Hey, Chris, Hey, Steve, how you doing good? I would

959
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 11: honestly say that just a combination of all the off

960
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 11: season moved the bills made from running backs Damien Harris

961
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 11: and Latavious Murray. However, that's going to shake up to

962
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 11: hopefully allow Josh Allen to not have to run the

963
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 11: ball as much as he has gave Davis stepping up

964
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 11: and being more sure handed and hopefully having a better

965
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 11: season without bad ankle, and then hopefully utilized James Cook

966
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 11: and Khalil Shaquill a little bit more. I thought Khalil

967
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 11: Shakira could have been used more last year. He's really

968
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 11: sure handed, and I think that would help the offense

969
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 11: as a whole.

970
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I like that you kind of did

971
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: a run around the offense there. I like it, and

972
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: I think you're not alone in your assessment, Cassidy that

973
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: you know, Cook and Shakir probably could have took a

974
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 2: few more reps for this offense and maybe even made

975
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 2: a few more plays. Did you hear what he did?

976
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: You hear his description of Shakir there he called him

977
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: sure handed. I think in the instances where he got

978
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: an opportunity, he was pretty sure handed. And on a

979
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: team that was plagued by drops last year, you wonder

980
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: if that plays a factor in how much time he

981
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 2: gets on the field, provided he shows those same hands

982
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: for the course of training camp in the preseason.

983
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does catch the ball well, and I think

984
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: he's a heady player, has a great feel for a

985
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: zone versus man. I think quarterbacks trust him. I think

986
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: Shawn Josh really learned to look for him in spots

987
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: and could trust where he was gonna be. And we

988
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: saw it, and you mentioned it earlier. He makes some

989
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: throws to him that you can tell the way where

990
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: he threw it and how he was covered when he

991
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: threw it. He trusted the guy, so that that goes

992
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: a long way, and because of that, it may be

993
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: a good call for him to be, like, you know what,

994
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna He's gonna take a step forward this year

995
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: because of that type of player that he is. I'll

996
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: say this though, when you get when you see Shakir

997
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: next to a guy like Deontae Hardy, there's a vast difference.

998
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: So they're gonna have some choices to make as a

999
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: coaching staff as to what kind of tool set they

1000
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: want on the field. With Josh, there's a lot that

1001
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: goes into it. As from what I'm talking, you can

1002
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: tell by what I'm talking about. Either they get a

1003
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: guy like Hardy who's like a Isaiah mackenzie type guy,

1004
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: only maybe even a little bit faster and more athletic,

1005
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: maybe for different reasons, just they like him better than

1006
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir because he's faster and more shifty and can

1007
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: and takes the lid off the defense better, or as

1008
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: they can do more things with him, he puts more

1009
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: pressure on the defense. But then you go back to

1010
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: what I just said, maybe Josh likes Shakir better because

1011
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: of all the trust factor and the catchability and the

1012
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: knowledge of the offense and just the sheer number of reps.

1013
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: So the coaching SATs got to take that into account too.

1014
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot in that recipe. You know, I'm not

1015
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: saying one of them's in, one of them's out, but

1016
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: one of them may get certain situations and the other

1017
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: one won't. Certainly, I think both those guys will be

1018
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: on the fifty three. But that's kind of what you're

1019
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: looking at. And plus all the other things that you

1020
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: know Cassidy said, you know, you know, wide receivers, the

1021
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: running backs, all those guys. If we can just get

1022
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: a little uptick forget the upticking production. Just cut out

1023
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: the mistakes, cut out the drops, cut out the turnovers,

1024
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: and the team's going to take a huge leap forward.

1025
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I.

1026
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 2: Could see it for sure. Let's go to Mark and

1027
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 2: West senecon next. What do you got for his? Mark?

1028
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 8: Hey, Chris, Hey, Steve, Steve, this is the year positive thinking,

1029
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 8: this is the year Okay, so and you'll be in

1030
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 8: the hall. I got a one A and a one B.

1031
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 8: My one B is the two guards McGovern and whoever

1032
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 8: Howard plays out at right guard, who takes that spot?

1033
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 7: Uh.

1034
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 8: The offensive line needs to be better in both past

1035
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 8: protection and run blocking, and I believe it starts from.

1036
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 7: The middle out.

1037
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 8: So if those those two positions pan out much better

1038
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 8: than last year, we're on the uptick. But as I've

1039
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 8: stated on your shore several times, my one A is

1040
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 8: and will continue to be until he shows me different.

1041
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 8: Ken Dorsey, I think Brandon Bean has now again accumulated

1042
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 8: more than enough talent for Ken to be able to

1043
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 8: put a bunch of different packages personnel packages together and

1044
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 8: to be more creative than we were last year. The

1045
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 8: statue shows that our offense was really really good last year.

1046
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 8: The eye test tells us that, like you say, often

1047
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 8: was a heavy lift and Josh Allen had to put

1048
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 8: on his Superman cape way too often for the team

1049
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 8: to move the ball and for us to be successful,

1050
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 8: and put in the end zone way too much last year,

1051
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 8: especially as the season had moved on, and I think

1052
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 8: that really played into Josh pressing pressing, and also all

1053
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 8: the turnovers that that we had last year, you know,

1054
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 8: and I obviously we have to clean up the drops,

1055
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 8: but I think that was one of the biggest problems.

1056
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 8: And I think Keen needs to get more creative than

1057
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 8: he was last year because the offense looked way too

1058
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 8: stagnant by the by the time we got to the

1059
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 8: end of the year. So that's that's my opinion.

1060
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 5: Guys.

1061
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Speaker 2: Thanks yep, I get it, Mark and stand it. I

1062
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 2: remember us discussing how play action had kind of disappeared

1063
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: from Buffalo's offense for long stretches, and you know, Brian Dable,

1064
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 2: his predecessor, was a guy who relied on play action

1065
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: a lot, especially when he dialed up some shot plays

1066
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: for Josh Right, and that was used far less last

1067
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: year under Dorsey. I'm not saying it's a panacea. It's

1068
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: not gonna fix everything, but I think incorporating that back

1069
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: into the scope of the offense with what we expect

1070
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: to be an improved run game should be even more effective.

1071
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: You could argue because if you're running the thing between

1072
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: the tackles and then you run play action, you're gonna

1073
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 2: get linebackers up close to the line of scrimmage and

1074
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 2: give you tons of holes behind them for guys like

1075
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 2: Dalton Kincaid and Deontay Hardy and whoever else you got

1076
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: in the slot.

1077
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: Right you can you can easily get yourself down that

1078
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: logical path where if you're running the ball really well

1079
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: with two behind, two huge guards and two huge tackles,

1080
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: and you're just kind of pushing people around up front,

1081
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 1: the defense is gonna start to come closer and closer

1082
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage to get a head start

1083
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: on stopping the run again. And then when you pull

1084
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: the ball out as as Josh Allen will do it,

1085
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: hold it out to hand it off, and then take

1086
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: it back and then look down the field as somebody's

1087
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, taking the lid off the defense. All those

1088
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: linebackers in the safeties are running towards the line of

1089
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: scrimage and then they got to stop turn around and

1090
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: head back and start chasing people. You can see where

1091
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: it might leave the middle of the field open for

1092
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: a young receiver like a Dalton Kincaid and a Dawson

1093
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: Knox and if not over the top to Deontay Hardy

1094
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: or Gabe Davis or Steph Diggs. It it opens up

1095
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: a part of your offense that really puts pressure on

1096
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: the entire defense, not just your secondary, not just your

1097
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: pass rush kind of thing, but on the entire defense

1098
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: because they got to they gotta be physical and combative

1099
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: and you know, tackle hard and take on blocks and

1100
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: fight through blocks to get to the run game. And

1101
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: it takes a special mentality to do that and then

1102
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: to get them into that mindset and then say that's

1103
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: not what you know, not on this play, and then

1104
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: they got to snap out of it almost and start

1105
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: to get back and cover space instead of bodies. It

1106
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: puts an enormous amount of pressure on a defense. And

1107
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: with two big backs coming in Damien Harrison Latavious Murray

1108
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: along with James Cook, along with these big offensive guards

1109
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: they got, Yeah, it just speaks to me of physicality

1110
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: and they're gonna take advantage of them. And if a

1111
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: team isn't up to stopping them in the run game,

1112
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: the offensive line will love it. Even Josh'll love it.

1113
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: Steph diggsill love it, you know, as well.

1114
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: As they're winning.

1115
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: They they're winning, nobody's complaining. Let's go. It's a great

1116
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: place to be. And I'll say this too, you won't

1117
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: turn it over twenty eight times. If you run the

1118
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: ball more than pass, you're not going to turn the

1119
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: football over. Defensive coaches like Sean McDermott love that. So

1120
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot in that. Certainly they're not going to

1121
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: run the ball more than they throw it. They just won't.

1122
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: But man, oh man, the threat and the efficiency of

1123
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: it really will help them.

1124
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 2: Let's move along to Gerard in Corning. What do you

1125
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 2: got for us? Gerard?

1126
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 4: Hey, hi, guys doing thanks for taking my call. Sure,

1127
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 4: I think inevitably last year, with Crowder getting hurt the

1128
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 4: way he did, you kind of spent the whole rest

1129
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 4: of the season searching for that number three receiver. And

1130
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 4: to me that right now, hopefully we have a healthy game. Davis,

1131
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 4: like everybody anticipated in making it stop that whether it

1132
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 4: be Kincaid Shakir, either one of the free agents they

1133
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 4: brought in that that is going to open up everything

1134
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 4: else they spent, you know, right back down to bringing

1135
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 4: John Brown in towards the end of the year to

1136
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 4: find the number three guy is gonna make the difference

1137
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 4: in the next step in this offense.

1138
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll say this, bringing Cole Beasley back and

1139
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: John Brown back last year was more of an insurance

1140
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: policy than it was actually getting him on the field.

1141
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Khalil Shakir played ahead of Cole Beasley at

1142
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: the end, and John Brown didn't see the field much

1143
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: at all at the end.

1144
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 9: There.

1145
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: Either those guys were brought back in case something happened

1146
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: to Diggs, in case something happened to Gabe Davis. They

1147
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: had guys in the offense that could plug in the

1148
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen knew. Those guys were insurance policies and answers

1149
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: to the injury that Jameson Crowder. If you go back

1150
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: and watch the first month of the season when Crowder

1151
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: was healthy, man o man, he was a guy that

1152
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: was gonna help him, but his injury kept him from it.

1153
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: And Gabe Davis was dragging around something all year as well.

1154
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: Injuries were really the and I'll say this too you

1155
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: as even as a Bill's guy, it's hard to use

1156
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: injuries as excuses, but certainly because every team has injuries

1157
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: and they all have to kind of overcome injuries. But

1158
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: it's rare that you see injuries happen to top flight,

1159
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: elite players like it did last year, particularly at the

1160
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: end of the season when he had Jordan Phillips, Daikwon Jones,

1161
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde, and Crowder was one that would you know,

1162
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: goes under the radar because it happened early. All of

1163
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: those guys dragging that stuff around, you know, even Spencer

1164
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: Brown limping around. So injuries are something that they didn't

1165
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: have to contend with for the two years prior to

1166
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: last year, and last year they got all of it

1167
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: in one and you could tell even doing so, they

1168
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: played really well under that weight. But I agree with

1169
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: you Crowder's injury went under the radar last year, but

1170
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: it did give them a chance now in retrospect now,

1171
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: it gave them a chance to find out about some

1172
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: guys and they can and it forced them to spread

1173
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: their wings and really life on some other guys and

1174
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: maybe found some things out that they can use.

1175
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 2: I think you could make the argument that it also

1176
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 2: prompted them to address that position in numbers, even greater

1177
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 2: numbers than they did last year. Last year they had

1178
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 2: Mackenzie Crowder drafted Shakir. Now it's Shakir. They signed Hardy

1179
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 2: in Sherfield and free agency, and it does make you wonder,

1180
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 2: you know, because it ultimately fell to Mackenzie, who you know,

1181
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: they clearly trusted more than Shakir at the time. Last

1182
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 2: year he got the lion's share of the action there,

1183
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: but really didn't deliver consistently enough week to week to

1184
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 2: maximize the value of that position. Give Josh the easy

1185
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 2: button throws that Cole Beasley gave him for three seasons here,

1186
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: and so it really changed the offense, and I think

1187
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: it is one of the main reasons why the offense

1188
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 2: was the heavy lift that it was in the second

1189
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 2: half of the season. They did not have that easy

1190
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 2: answer safety valve option in the middle of the field

1191
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 2: for Josh to check it down to on third and

1192
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 2: three when maybe option one wasn't there. Now you address

1193
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 2: that position in numbers, and so you have Hardy as

1194
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: an option, you have Surefield as an option, you have

1195
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 2: Shaker as an option and may the best man win,

1196
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: or maybe it's a committee position. You tried to just

1197
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: plug one guy in there and everybody seemed to just

1198
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 2: be getting hurt or was ineffective. What if you use

1199
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 2: it as a committee position, similar the way teams use

1200
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 2: running backs in I.

1201
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: Think it's interesting to point out to the last year

1202
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: when they had Isaiah mackenzie, they preferred him on the

1203
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: field over Shakir and was only when McKenzie kind of

1204
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: couldn't do You know what, I don't think McKenzie did

1205
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 1: exactly what the quarterbacks wanted him to do. He didn't

1206
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: have that knack for understanding what was expected of him

1207
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: on a on a field basis. And I think finally,

1208
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: maybe Josh, maybe somebody else talking to say, listen, I

1209
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: get this guy in because I trust the way he

1210
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: I know what he's gonna do, right Mackenzie.

1211
01:05:59,120 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 2: He struggled with that.

1212
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: When Mackenzie had his had his best games for Buffalo

1213
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: coming in. You remember two years ago in the New

1214
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: England game, came in had like twelve twelve receptions on

1215
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: eleven receptions on twelve targets and a touchdown and a touchdown.

1216
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: He was all out one hundred and twenty five yards.

1217
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: That happened when he was the focal point. He was

1218
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: the option on that play well.

1219
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: And not only that, New England inexplicably played man defense

1220
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: the entire game and had their fourth corner on him

1221
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 2: in a man to manned situation. Is like no Is

1222
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 2: Miles Bryant Bryant and it's like, what are they doing

1223
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 2: and why have they not changed this yet? And he

1224
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 2: ate him alive, he ate him up.

1225
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: So I think there were other reasons why McK and

1226
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: maybe they liked McKenzie's ability, like he's gonna take the

1227
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: top off the defense and that may give us an

1228
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: insight to what they're gonna do this year. If Hardy's

1229
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: out there and available, maybe he's the guy they like

1230
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: his skill set better than than Shakir just because of

1231
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: his spear. Now he will have to show that he

1232
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: can do some of the things that Khalus Shakir can

1233
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: do as well, the feel, the catching, you know, being

1234
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: sure handed, running the right routes and when he and

1235
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 1: when the receiver and I know it sounds crazy, there's

1236
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: a lot in this. When the receiver comes out of

1237
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: a break, he presents himself, gets his eyes up, gets

1238
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: his body language right, and the quarterback says, oh, yeah,

1239
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: there's he wants. I see, I see exactly what he wants,

1240
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: where he wants the football, He's ready for it. A

1241
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: receiver kind of presents his target to the quarterback and

1242
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 1: in doing so gives the quarterback confidence of where to

1243
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: put the ball and that he's going to be there

1244
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: and ready to make a play on it. Some receivers

1245
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: struggle with that. They struggle with it. And I think

1246
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 1: if Hardy, I don't think Shakir does. I think they

1247
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: got to find that out about Hardy. They got to

1248
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: find that out about Sherfield.

1249
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do, and that and that'll be a position

1250
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: to watch in training camp for sure. Let's go back

1251
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 2: to the phones into Rich and ken morenex what h

1252
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 2: for as Rich.

1253
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 3: Hi, guys, I questioned for Steve. In the beginning of

1254
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 3: last year, it was reported and confirmed on the internet

1255
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 3: that Gabe Davis put on fifteen pounds as a receiver. Steve,

1256
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 3: don't you think that's carrying way too much weight? Linemen

1257
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 3: get beef up, not receivers.

1258
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: If I'll say this, if Gabe Dave, I don't remember that,

1259
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't remember that story. All I know is this,

1260
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: if gave Davis put on fifteen pounds, is because they

1261
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: told him to So I mean he did what they

1262
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: probably told him to do. He didn't do that without

1263
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: talking to somebody, right, They've got he They literally have

1264
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: their fingers on the pulse of these guys.

1265
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 2: He was listed last year at two ten. I can

1266
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 2: tell you just standing next to him, he's not two ten.

1267
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:57,560
Speaker 2: He's more than that. And he has mentioned that, you know,

1268
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 2: just in conversations, he played at about two twenty last year. Now,

1269
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 2: training camp, you get through camp, you're probably weigh a

1270
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 2: little bit less than that. And I think we can

1271
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 2: all agree that if you look at Gabe Davis, it's

1272
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 2: good weight.

1273
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: It's not.

1274
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 2: Sloppy weight or weight that clearly the athletic training and

1275
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 2: strength and conditioning staff believe is going to inhibit his play.

1276
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see where where he weighs in

1277
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 2: at this year and what he decides to do, because

1278
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 2: I think Gay would be the first to tell you

1279
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 2: he wasn't happy with this season last year with a

1280
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 2: fifty two percent catch rate. I don't think his weight

1281
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 2: has anything to do with his catch rate quite honestly,

1282
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 2: but maybe he decides, I got to try something different

1283
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: this offseason to be better for twenty twenty three.

1284
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: They will have to see they have serious conversations with

1285
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: these guys, not just with the coaching staff, but with

1286
01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: the you know, the the sports science people in the build,

1287
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: the trainers, the strength and conditioning coaches, the nutritionists. They got.

1288
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: They got a raft of people that will that have

1289
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: conversations about how the guy feels, what he looks like.

1290
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 1: And they also wear these GPS tracks. They know, they

1291
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: know their heart rate, They know that that that they

1292
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Speaker 1: know everything about these guys, what their workout, how hard

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Speaker 1: the workout was. They can tell them when they don't

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01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: even they don't have to ask them. The sports science

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01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 1: people can tell them how hard their workout was. So

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Speaker 1: if he comes back fifteen pounds heavier or fifteen pounds lighter,

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Speaker 1: it's because it was part of the plan that they

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Speaker 1: sat down, talked with him about and got him to

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Speaker 1: that point. And let me tell you something, just because

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Speaker 1: we're sitting here saying, you can tip your hat to

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Speaker 1: those guys, because that ain't easy. That it's not easy

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Speaker 1: to do.

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Speaker 2: I think the other thing to consider too is a

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01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: lot of times these guys personal trainers encourage them to

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01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 2: put on a little extra weight right at the start

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01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 2: of training camp, knowing that training camp, even though it's

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01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 2: no more two days anymore in the traditional sense, still

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01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 2: lose weight through the course of training camp. So what

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Speaker 2: do you The personal trainers that these guys have probably say,

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01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 2: what do you want to play at when you get

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01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 2: to the regular season, And maybe Gabe says to eighteen,

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01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 2: and he says, Okay, let's go into camp at two

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01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,600
Speaker 2: twenty five, knowing you're going to be burning some of

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Speaker 2: that off going every day for two and a half

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Speaker 2: three weeks, followed by preseason games. So there is a

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Speaker 2: method to it all. And you know, you look at

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Speaker 2: Gabe Davis, he carries it well on his frame. It's

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01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 2: not like he's some sloppy player. So I don't think

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01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 2: it's as big a concern as it might sound. And

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Speaker 2: also last year he was listed on the roster as

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01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 2: a two hundred and ten pound player, and I can

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01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 2: tell you dollars to donuts he weighed more than that.

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01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 2: He was closer to two twenty, I would argue, So

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Speaker 2: for what that's worth, we have to take a break here.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, we will take more of your

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01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 2: phone calls if you want to weigh in on who

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01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 2: you feel is the most important Bills player on offense

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01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 2: aside from Josh Allen for the twenty twenty three season.

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Speaker 2: We also want to talk about some bulletin board material.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you where it's coming from when we return

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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kloda Health. It's

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. Back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

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01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you. We told you before the break

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Speaker 2: we wanted to address what we would probably label bulletin

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01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 2: board material. As you know, the team prognostications are going

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01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: to be coming fast and furious over the next several

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01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,719
Speaker 2: weeks leading into training camp and into the regular season,

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Speaker 2: and you can credit SI dot Com with providing some

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Speaker 2: bulletin board material for the Bills. Hang it in the

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Speaker 2: locker room now. Even the subheader, Buffalo boasts a talented

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01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 2: roster once again, but the team will have to buy

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01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 2: in if Josh Allen and company want to break their

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01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 2: streak of playoff losses. Okay, so that's where it starts.

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Speaker 2: Then it goes like this. The Bills have hit a

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01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 2: wall after back to back playoff seasons that ended in

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Speaker 2: the divisional round. It wasn't that long ago that the

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Speaker 2: Bills were the surging squad with a bright future. I'll

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01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 2: kind of skim across this. The Bills have gone backwards

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01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 2: since losing the AFC title game to the Chiefs during

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01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty season. Then they lost a thrilling divisional

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01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 2: round game to the Chiefs, and then we're embarrassed by

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01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 2: the Bengals in the same round last year. Buffalo still

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01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 2: has a talented roster. The offense could also receive a

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01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 2: boost from the arrival of Dalton Kincaid blah blah blah.

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01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 2: On the defensive side, Poyer and Hyderer back together. No

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01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 2: more Tremaine Edmonds blah blah blah. They'll lean on Matt Mulano.

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01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: Perhaps it's an exaggeration to say the Bill's Super Bowl

1358
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 2: window is closing fast, but it sure seems that way

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01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 2: with how the Dig situation developed in the past month.

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Speaker 2: So then they go down that rabbit hole again. They

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Speaker 2: think the biggest gamble this offseason is making it work

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Speaker 2: with Digs. Toughest stretch of the season weeks eleven to eighteen.

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Speaker 2: I happen to agree with that breakout player to watch

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Speaker 2: Greg Russo. Okay, that's good. Position of strength, interior defensive line.

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Speaker 2: It is better than it was last year. This one's

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Speaker 2: my favorite and I want to put this in the

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Speaker 2: dB room right now. Position of weakness they say cornerback.

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01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 2: The cornerback position was an issue for Buffalo last season,

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Speaker 2: with then rookie Kyer Elam struggling to find his footing

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01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 2: in Tredavious White limited to six games due to injury.

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01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,799
Speaker 2: Then it says Elam ended his rookie season with six starts,

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Speaker 2: two picks, forty one total tackles. The Bills will need

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01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 2: the two cornerbacks to be consistent and avail if they

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01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 2: want to earn a playoff spot. And then the X

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01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 2: factor is James Cook. Uh their prediction for a final

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01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 2: record eleven and six, second in the AFC East to

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Speaker 2: who uh it's that is not? That is not listed here.

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01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to assume they picked the Jets. But there

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01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 2: is no shortage of bulletin board material out there, uh

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01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 2: for the Bills to stick in the locker room on

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01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 2: a daily basis. Almost like people are so nationally I'm

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01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 2: talking about so down on this team. It is not

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01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 2: hard to find it.

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01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: You don't wonder if they do any due diligence that

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01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: Allen finished with more than they're saying, like they're talking

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01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 1: about betting lines and all of that, and they say

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01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 1: take the over on Josh Allen rushing this blah blah blah,

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01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: And they said the Bills didn't add another receiver in

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01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: the offseason to complement Diggs. It's likely Allen's mobility will

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01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: continue to display. The Bills didn't add they added like three.

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01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 2: They got.

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01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 1: They like Jettison, Isaiah McKenzie, Crowder's gone, Cole Beasley's gone,

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01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: John Brown's off that you don't it's the most refurbished

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01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 1: position group on the team. Wide receiver, Deontay Hardy and

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01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 1: and Sherefield gotta be sitting there going.

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01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 2: What the heck?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's the only the only person out there national media

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Speaker 2: wise that I have seen that remains resolutely positive about

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01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 2: the bills fortunes in twenty twenty three is Bucky Brooks,

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01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,560
Speaker 2: who believes the Bills are going to win the AFC.

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01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 2: That's the only guy I've seen that's bullish on the

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01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 2: Bills as opposed to everybody else's canon, which has been

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01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 2: very bearish on the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a it's a in large measure, it's the

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01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: exact same thing that happened last year in reverse, you know,

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Speaker 1: with the thirteen second game and the Bills surging and stuff.

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01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 1: It's a recency bias that everybody has against the last

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01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 1: time we saw them, Steph was disappointed yelling at Josh

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01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 1: on the sideline, you know, and they scored ten points

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01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:26,560
Speaker 1: against the Bengals at home. So everybody thinks, well that

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01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 1: team stinks. Well not so fast, you know, they don't stink,

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01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: and they're going to be a much better team this

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01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: year than they were a year ago. And a year

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01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: ago they were really hard to beat. And we saw

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Speaker 1: what happened in that last game in the in the

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01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: snow against Cincinnati, and we you and I both thought,

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01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 1: you know, and it's easy to say in retrospect, I

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01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: get that this is a team that was done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was another interesting I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: would call this bulletin board material, but Patrick Mahomes in

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Speaker 2: the new docuseriies called Quarterback. It profiles Kirk Cousins Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: And now I'm gonna forget the third quarterback. Who's the

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01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 2: third quarterback in that series? I can't remember the third one,

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Speaker 2: but in any of.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Jared GoF, wasn't it Jared Goff? I can't remember.

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Speaker 2: But naturally, all of the clips being put out are

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Speaker 2: on Mahomes the Super Bowl, Mariota, Oh, Marcus Mariota. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so those three quarterbacks are being profiled behind the scenes

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01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 2: from the past year, which obviously couldn't have worked out

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01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 2: better with Mahomes winning the Super Bowl. But it is

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01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 2: after the Chiefs have won their divisional playoff to advance

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Speaker 2: the AFC Title Game, and they're at mahomes home. He's

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01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 2: hosting like twenty people at his house and one of

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Speaker 2: the guys asks him, Hey, who do you think is

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01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,719
Speaker 2: going to win this Bill's Bengals game? And he doesn't

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01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 2: give a direct answer, but Mahomes says, I think the

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01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 2: Bengals are the better team, so he leans Bengals. But

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Speaker 2: then he says, I think the Bills are a better

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01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 2: matchup for us next week, but I'd rather play the

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01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 2: Bengals because they're talking a lot about how good they

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01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 2: are and I haven't beaten them yet, so I want

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01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 2: to see them, which is admirable on Mahomes part. He

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01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 2: wants to beat the team that beat him. And I

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Speaker 2: know there's been some Twitter conversation already with people saying

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01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 2: h even Mahomes thinks. You know, the Bengals are better

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01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: than the Bills at that time in that situation, under

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01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 2: those circumstances, as Steve just pointed out, they probably were

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01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: because the Bills emotional gas tank was empty, they had

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01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 2: nothing left to give. They were running on fumes. I

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01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 2: know the Bengals had injured offensive linemen, but the Bills

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01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 2: had injured defensive linemen, one of whom didn't play their

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01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 2: best runs for in Daikwon Jones. So I think you

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01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 2: don't want to pull that comment out of context in

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01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 2: what was happening in that moment in that week, with

1457
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: who was playing on the field for both teams respectively.

1458
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 2: And you know, you go into this season and you

1459
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 2: look at it and you might ask yourself, well, where

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01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,560
Speaker 2: are the Bills stronger than the Bengals this year? I

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01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 2: would point to the secondary, Because you have a healthy

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01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 2: Trudavious White, You're gonna have a damn good player as

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01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 2: your second corner, whether it's Benford Elam or Dane Jackson,

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01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 2: and you have Poyer and Hyde back. Everybody forgets the

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01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 2: Bengals lost their two starting safeties from last season. They're elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: They departed a free agency Jesse Bates, a Pro Bowl player,

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01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 2: and Von Bell they're both gone. So you have two

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Speaker 2: new starters at the safety spot. That's not gonna look

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01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 2: all buttoned up in Week one. I'm just saying, right,

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01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 2: So there are elements that will need to be assessed

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Speaker 2: then evaluated here in the early going to see if

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Speaker 2: the Bengals truly are the same team. There's still an

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01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 2: offensive juggernaut, don't get me wrong, But don't dismiss some

1474
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 2: of the departures they had on the defensive side of

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01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,799
Speaker 2: the ball this past season because it makes a difference.

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01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 2: As we saw when the Bills spent most of the

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01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 2: season without Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer missed five games.

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01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 2: It makes a difference, Yes, it does.

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01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 1: Everything becomes a heavier lift when your top tier players

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01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 1: are not there, and and it showed and the Bill.

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01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: It started to wear on the Bills. You could see

1482
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: that it got harder and harder to win games. And uh,

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01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,879
Speaker 1: you know they at the end they're struggling against Skuyler Thompson,

1484
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 1: uh and against whoever was whoever that was? Who were

1485
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: the was it the Patriots? It was Skyler Thompson the

1486
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 1: playoffs and then of course the Patriots at the end

1487
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: of the season when they couldn't even take a snap

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01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: from center. So it was Yeah, it became heavier and

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01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: heavier lift as those injuries and all the other stuff

1490
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: started to stack up against this club. But yeah, I think, yeah,

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01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 1: I think the Bills have to be a lot more

1492
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 1: comfortable with the low expectations they have around the national

1493
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: media than they were a year ago when they were

1494
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: the hottest ticket to get.

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01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's time for us to go to the tweet sheets, Steve.

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01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 2: We have yet to crack that open at this point

1497
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 2: in time, So we're going to do that as we

1498
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 2: see what the listeners on social media think about. Who

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01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 2: is the next most important player on offense for the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season, aside from Josh Allen, Rubio says

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Speaker 2: and tweet sheet brought to you by Corian Moving Systems,

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Speaker 2: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Rubio says,

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Speaker 2: the running back whoever is in there, Cook has to

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01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,560
Speaker 2: be a threat both running and catching. Damian Harris I

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01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 2: think will be a hard nosed ball carrier. They need

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01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 2: to keep the defense on their toes and not allow

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01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,799
Speaker 2: defenses to tee off on Josh because they know we're throwing.

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Speaker 2: I'm behind that. Yeah, Cook is cooked my for my

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Speaker 2: money might be the player I have the greatest anticipation for,

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Speaker 2: not only a training camp, but when we get to

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Speaker 2: the regular.

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Speaker 1: Seas, you almost feel the league evolving to guys like

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Speaker 1: James Cook, guys who can carry the ball between the

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Speaker 1: tackles but also bust out, split out wide as a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver and win out there as well. And you

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Speaker 1: feel like he's one of those one of those players

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01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: that seems cutting edge, you know what I'm saying. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey knows what it is to work with running backs.

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01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: He worked at the U, played at the U, has

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Speaker 1: some great guys down there, So I think I think

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Speaker 1: the evolution of the position is where James is right

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Speaker 1: in James Cook's wheelhouse, you know what I'm saying, And

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Speaker 1: I'm and I'm I'm with you, Brownie. I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: to see what they do with him and and see

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01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:05,560
Speaker 1: him get more snaps more opportunities and we'll see. But

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of with you on that.

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Speaker 2: Paul on the tweet sheet says, wide receiver number two,

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Speaker 2: whoever that's going to be, because Diggs will be well covered.

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01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 2: I think Tiffany on the tweet sheet says, my hopes

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01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 2: are that James Cook has a bigger role in the offense.

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Speaker 2: He has, in my opinion, the ability to break a

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Speaker 2: big play, not only in the run game, but also

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01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 2: as a pass catcher. Hopefully the coaches put more trust

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Speaker 2: in him this season. I think we just covered that.

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Speaker 2: Andrea says Digs Without him, there's no passing game, opposing

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01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 2: defense's game plan for him. I'm sorry, we don't even

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Speaker 2: know if Gabe is a wide receiver too much less

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Speaker 2: a one, Steve says Diggs because we don't have another

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01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 2: real number one receiver. If Diggs goes out for even

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01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 2: a sickness, who's going to fill in his shoes. I'm

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01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 2: not saying Davis is not a good receiver, but he's

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01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 2: unproven number two, and in many eyes, a great number

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01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 2: three could be a number two depth for Hopkins. Then

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01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 2: we have who's next. Heer Connor on the tweets sheet

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Speaker 2: says number thirteen. Everyone knows what Digs can do. There

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Speaker 2: also seems to be an effort to work the running

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01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 2: backs and tight ends into the offense this season. I

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Speaker 2: say Gabe because he has to establish himself as the

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Speaker 2: number two this season. If he can get back and

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Speaker 2: even take a leap this year, the offense could be unstoppable.

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting take. Not many people are trying to

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01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 2: pump Gabe Davis's tires like they were last year on

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Speaker 2: the heels of his four touchdown playoff performance. And I

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01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 2: understand why. You know, he had an uneven season last year.

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01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 2: But if he can come back and be decidedly better

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01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 2: in terms of consistency and performance, now you have two

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Speaker 2: threats on the outside, which logic would say would open

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01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,839
Speaker 2: things up on the inside for people like Dalton Kinkaid,

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Speaker 2: Dawson Knox, any one of the slot receivers we've mentioned today.

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Speaker 2: It just there's a trickle down effect that that's a

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01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,560
Speaker 2: very positive one. If that can manifest itself.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Will be interesting to see Gabe Davis and

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Speaker 1: how he responds to last year. I mean, he the

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01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: fifty two percent catch rates got to change. You got

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01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 1: to catch more football higher percentage of the balls thrown

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Speaker 1: to you than that. Not all of them can be caught.

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01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: I get it, but that's the one thing that's got

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01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: to change they and that that's not just Gabe, that's

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01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: it's also Shakir, it's digs, it's it's knocks. Everybody who

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Speaker 1: gets the ball thrown to them has got to catch

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01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 1: it and they can't turn it over. The drops and

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01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: turnovers are these stat lines that can change the fortunes

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Speaker 1: of this club from being a really good football team

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Speaker 1: last year to a Super Bowl champion. That's it. I

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Speaker 1: mean that they're talented enough, they're they're they're motivated enough,

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01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 1: they're coat well coached enough, all of that, but that's

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Speaker 1: what it boils down to. They've got to not do

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Speaker 1: it to themselves.

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Speaker 2: We'll step aside one more time here because back with

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Speaker 2: some final thoughts on the tweet sheet next year on

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Speaker 2: one Bill's Live. Stay tuned, all right, welcome back to

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Speaker 2: one Bill's Live. One final segment to go Here on

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Speaker 2: a Wednesday, Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you. Back to

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Speaker 2: the tweet cheet we go looking for the most important

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01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 2: player aside from Josh Allen on the offensive side of

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Speaker 2: the ball. In Your Estimation for twenty twenty three, Dan

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01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 2: on the tweet Sheet says Khalil Shakir was emerging as

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Speaker 2: a reliable target at the end of last season and

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Speaker 2: has great yards after catchability. I think he will become

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Speaker 2: the blue cheese this recipe needs.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, there you go. That's nice. That's nice.

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Speaker 2: Dips in and out of the lineup.

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Speaker 1: I guess I don't know, Yeah, no, nice. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be fun. The training camp starts two weeks from today.

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01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 1: Is gonna be the first practice we're honing in on that.

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01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: It's this team is uh, they're set to go. They're

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Speaker 1: built whoever's gonna and that goes for all the other

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01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: thirty one teams too. You think about it. The rosters

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Speaker 1: are kind of there. The team's gonna win the Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: Got the guys in the building right now, whoever it

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Speaker 1: may be, And that's pretty exciting to think about. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna go out there and they're gonna start throwing it around.

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01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 1: And the Bills are and I'll say this, the Bills

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01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: are gonna be in that conversation again this year. There's

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01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 1: just no two ways about it. They are two good,

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01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: too talented, they got a too good a quarterback. They're

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01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 1: too well coached, they're too well built. They're gonna have

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01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: something to say about who goes, whether it's them or

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Speaker 1: somebody else.

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Speaker 2: Rick is the last tweek. We'll get to you today,

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01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 2: kind of jumps around a little bit. Davis and Hardy

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01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 2: on outside to relieve some pressure off Digs, Cook and

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01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 2: Harris to do the same for Josh as far as

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01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 2: taking pressure off of him. If the old line plays

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01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 2: well and we stay healthy, watch out. Yeah, everybody learned

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01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 2: what happens when you get bit by the injury bug.

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01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 2: It really compromised not only the depth of this roster,

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01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 2: but the play calling expanses that door so you could

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01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 2: go to to make things happen on the offensive side

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Speaker 2: of the ball.

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Speaker 1: It's gotta be fun to watch, and we all know

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Speaker 1: the cast of characters. Will see how it plays out.

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Speaker 2: Done for Wednesday. We'll see you tomorrow on Thursday at

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Speaker 2: one pm. Join us, won't you