Speaker 1: What's up. Family, it's your girl to mek A D.
Speaker 2: Mallory and it's your boy, my son the general.
Speaker 1: We are your host of street politicians, the place with
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Speaker 3: Mallory, you're looking like you're looking like the high end
Speaker 3: Rosa Parks right now.
Speaker 1: Rostas was super high end. I'm just saying her day.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to say this, Findy. You know you
Speaker 2: got the head wrap.
Speaker 3: You know how they always show like Rosa with the
Speaker 3: head rap, So it's given.
Speaker 1: It's it's called given. Edges need to be laid down
Speaker 1: and I ain't got time for him right.
Speaker 2: Now, so well you got laying down right now.
Speaker 1: So thanks, thanks for the acknowledgement. My new what is
Speaker 1: that a boycott Blacks.
Speaker 3: Culture to shout out to forever young humber Chrystals, send
Speaker 3: me she got sweatsuits.
Speaker 1: Whatever, young, forever young.
Speaker 2: You know that's how I feel anyway, so it definitely
Speaker 2: fits me.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks.
Speaker 3: Last week I had to go to court. You know,
Speaker 3: my nephews is locked up mm and that's been kind
Speaker 3: of hard. It's hard, you know what's so hard doing
Speaker 3: this work trying to end gun violence and trying to
Speaker 3: stop violence in the community, and then when these things
Speaker 3: come into your own homes, it's like, you know, he's
Speaker 3: he's he's currently arrested for allegedly gun possession, and going
Speaker 3: to court seeing him there is heartbreaking.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: You have these conversations and you talk and he looks
Speaker 3: so much like me, reminds me and me even you know,
Speaker 3: just seeing him walk out of that courtroom into that courtroom,
Speaker 3: you know, with that uniform on, it was heartbreaking because
Speaker 3: you don't that's that's what you do all of these
Speaker 3: things for, even when you when you get incarcerated and
Speaker 3: you go through these things and you have these conversations
Speaker 3: with them and you try to steer them away and
Speaker 3: you do everything you can. You know, you have these
Speaker 3: real tough conversations, and when when you know you see
Speaker 3: them have to go through their own trials and tribulations
Speaker 3: that you couldn't help them avoid, it's really disheartening.
Speaker 2: So that that was like a real rough thing for me. Man.
Speaker 3: You know, I want I'm gonna go see him, you know,
Speaker 3: I was trying to go see him physically, like go
Speaker 3: to you know, to visit, but they moved him for
Speaker 3: wherever he was so, you know, but he seems he's
Speaker 3: a strong young man, you know, but you don't want
Speaker 3: to have to use your strength in that, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and at least, you know, I mean, at
Speaker 1: least from what I understand, he's not uh charged with
Speaker 1: like shooting anybody is just having a weapon period.
Speaker 3: So, and the thing is when you have these conversations
Speaker 3: with them and they're like, yo, you just they in
Speaker 3: their mind.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: A lot of these kids and it's allegedly I don't
Speaker 3: know if he I don't even know if he did
Speaker 3: know anything, But I just know when you have conversations
Speaker 3: with these kids in general, what they say is they
Speaker 3: just rather be caught with or without it.
Speaker 2: And then you can't even get mad.
Speaker 1: They rather be caught without it because when you look
Speaker 1: at that.
Speaker 3: These young people are saying that, when you look at
Speaker 3: what happened in Harlem, when you look at what happened
Speaker 3: in Queens, you know, I don't think any of them.
Speaker 1: Well what happened because the people listening don't know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the young the young man, you know. I
Speaker 3: posted on my page last week there was a young
Speaker 3: man who I don't even know what kind of confrontation
Speaker 3: him and this young man was twenty one years old
Speaker 3: and the guy who you know, he allegedly shot was
Speaker 3: thirty two years of age. And you know, it seemed
Speaker 3: like there was probably a disagreement, just a little dollar.
Speaker 2: I don't know that the bad history or anything.
Speaker 3: All I know that the man was walking out and
Speaker 3: he was shot in his head. And you know, in
Speaker 3: no situations you don't know you how do you protect yourself?
Speaker 3: How do you how do you think somebody thinks you
Speaker 3: get into a minor disagreement with somebody or just a
Speaker 3: back and forth, that somebody's gonna shoot you in the
Speaker 3: back and shoot you in the back of your head
Speaker 3: and kill you. You know what I'm saying, Like you don't
Speaker 3: even know. So these kids are nervous. A lot of
Speaker 3: these young kids is nervous. They're like your people try
Speaker 3: to kill me. You know, you walk in you don't
Speaker 3: even know, people mistake you a sound if you don't
Speaker 3: got a gun or anything to get your well.
Speaker 2: So we're just dealing with really really serious times.
Speaker 3: Is mental health, you know, it's trauma, you know, it's poverty,
Speaker 3: you know, it's were still coming from the pandemic that
Speaker 3: the you know, the after effects of the pandemic and
Speaker 3: the remnants of the pandemic having left a lot of people,
Speaker 3: you know, a lot, especially with the amount of finances
Speaker 3: that was in the streets during the pandemic.
Speaker 2: Everybody had money. So now it's going back to be broken.
Speaker 3: And that's trauma in itself to one day you got
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand and fifty thousand, and next thing, you know,
Speaker 3: you got five dollars and you can't even you know,
Speaker 3: you can't make ends meet.
Speaker 2: So it's just so much going on.
Speaker 3: So I'm just praying for him, hoping that you know,
Speaker 3: he stays strong and you know, we get through this.
Speaker 3: But it's tough, man, It's really tough doing this boycott
Speaker 3: Black Murder, you know, initiative, in nationwide campaign.
Speaker 2: I have to really dig into it.
Speaker 3: You know, when this work is not just I'm going
Speaker 3: on to do this where you start looking at doing
Speaker 3: the research and looking at the data and then look
Speaker 3: at the communities with that it really impacted, and you
Speaker 3: start noticing trends and you start realizing that then it
Speaker 3: ain't just bad people, it's bad situations. It's like you said,
Speaker 3: it's meantal health it's so many different things that lead
Speaker 3: up to it. Then some people are just scared. And
Speaker 3: that's what my thing is about guns. If you give
Speaker 3: a scared person a gun, you don't know what could happen.
Speaker 3: If you give somebody who's not mentally doesn't have the
Speaker 3: mental capacity to have a gun, you don't know what.
Speaker 3: So everybody, everybody, Yo, everybody, No, everybody shouldn't have guns.
Speaker 3: I'm not everybody. There's a couple of people that know
Speaker 3: if they have guns. If they had guns, they would
Speaker 3: have killed about ten people already. Everybody don't have that.
Speaker 3: Just think about some of these people that have road rage,
Speaker 3: but they don't have guns. Right when you see the
Speaker 3: road the road rage with the guns, you've seen dudes
Speaker 3: really shoot through their window while they driving because somebody
Speaker 3: almost cut them off and they shooting through the window trying.
Speaker 2: To kill people. Have killed people.
Speaker 3: So all of those type of people had guns, and
Speaker 3: every time something like that happened, they was able to
Speaker 3: respond and react, you know, based on the emotions and
Speaker 3: the lack their control of their emotions they had.
Speaker 2: So you know, it's just it's just been it's been
Speaker 2: a tough week.
Speaker 3: It's been like a tough month dealing with this, but
Speaker 3: I'm faithful that God is gonna, you know, do what
Speaker 3: he's supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully that you know your nephew will be all
Speaker 1: right and whatever the certircumstances are gets worked out, and
Speaker 1: like you said, when you are able to go and
Speaker 1: visit him and really sit with him and understand his
Speaker 1: perspective and all of that, you know, hopefully it'll help
Speaker 1: you to think through how to help him because you know, legit,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he even had to do.
Speaker 3: I don't know anything, so I haven't really had a
Speaker 3: conversation with but this is what you know, he's been
Speaker 3: arrested for.
Speaker 1: So you know, we just got to pray yep, yep,
Speaker 1: and make sure he has the proper representation no matter
Speaker 1: which way it goes, because that's another problem across the nation.
Speaker 1: We see so many people falling victim and you have
Speaker 1: in the past to just not having the proper representation
Speaker 1: so that whatever they are, whatever circumstances and whatever their
Speaker 1: fate may be, that you believe someone was there representing
Speaker 1: them to the best of you know, of the of
Speaker 1: the type of representation that they should be. You know
Speaker 1: entitled to. So it's it's a you know, like you said,
Speaker 1: it's a lot, because the courts are packed, the emails
Speaker 1: are coming in with people with different situations and tragic
Speaker 1: stories all across the country. It's a lot that's happening.
Speaker 1: And as we were saying, I think it was last week,
Speaker 1: we were talking about, you know, hoping that people are
Speaker 1: really paying attention and understanding that there are a lot
Speaker 1: of folks who feel like they need to turn their
Speaker 1: eyes away or turn it off, which is fine for
Speaker 1: your own mental health, but also knowing that this is
Speaker 1: a time for us, maybe not so much to turn
Speaker 1: to the information overload, but to certainly try to figure
Speaker 1: out who are the groups that we can work with.
Speaker 1: Because you said in the beginning that you know, trying
Speaker 1: to stop gun violence, and I don't believe that that's
Speaker 1: a reality. I don't think we could ever stop anything.
Speaker 1: I think we can reduce it. I think we can
Speaker 1: reduce it signal significantly and prevent some situations from happening.
Speaker 1: And so but that takes work. Like you know, to
Speaker 1: stop it is almost easier than to reduce it, right,
Speaker 1: Like you would think, Okay, if we stopped it, that
Speaker 1: means that there's some divine intervention and gun violence there's
Speaker 1: no more. That's like an act of God. But to
Speaker 1: prevent it and to slow it down, you know, to
Speaker 1: to reduce it, that's real work. It takes people who
Speaker 1: are real practitioners and they need resources. And unfortunately, being
Speaker 1: a gun violence intervention specialist is not a job that
Speaker 1: you can just go online and look it up and
Speaker 1: you know, thousands and whatever jobs pop up. You know,
Speaker 1: where there's money for it, and there's you know, investment
Speaker 1: and there's health insurance. It's really none of that unless
Speaker 1: you are connected to a good organization that has been
Speaker 1: doing it for years. So hopefully people will understand the
Speaker 1: need to be more involved. So that's that on that
Speaker 1: in my life, you know, definitely had In the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I have had a few tragic things
Speaker 1: going on, and in fact, I've had three things over
Speaker 1: the last several months. My uncle passed away. My little
Speaker 1: cousin was mistaken for somebody. His car was the same
Speaker 1: as someone else who was involved in some type of incident,
Speaker 1: and so he was shot at, which caused him to
Speaker 1: be in a car accident and he lived, thank God.
Speaker 1: But lots of problems. You know what he experiences, body trauma.
Speaker 1: And now my first cousin. And you know, for a
Speaker 1: lot of people, when you say your first cousin, they're
Speaker 1: kind of like, okay, like you know, first cousin or cousins,
Speaker 1: like they don't see it. I noticed that a lot
Speaker 1: of people just don't have very close knit families the
Speaker 1: way that some people do, because I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people who do. I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: that have very close knit families, and I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people who don't have family at all or
Speaker 1: they don't really see or talk to their family members.
Speaker 1: And in my situation, it's not like that because my
Speaker 1: mother and father have been together for almost sixty years
Speaker 1: or maybe more than sixty years at this point I
Speaker 1: have checked, but definitely more than fifty five. And the
Speaker 1: way we were raised is like brothers and sisters with
Speaker 1: the children and my parents while they were there, you know,
Speaker 1: they have in laws, they don't call each other in laws.
Speaker 1: Everybody is a blended, very strong family. I have spent
Speaker 1: summers and holidays and birthdays and anything you could think
Speaker 1: of with either my mother's side or my father's side,
Speaker 1: and at some point even my mother's nephews and nieces
Speaker 1: and their generation. My parents' generation became family with my
Speaker 1: father's side because my parents when they would get for
Speaker 1: the summer, they would take two or three of my
Speaker 1: father's nieces and nephews and also my mother's nieces and nephews,
Speaker 1: and we all came together. So there's really no separation
Speaker 1: of people with people. Everybody knows everybody, and everybody has
Speaker 1: been close if you have a wedding, a birthday party,
Speaker 1: or anything. These families have come together for sixty years.
Speaker 1: That's a long time. So when one of us goes
Speaker 1: or something happens to an aunt whatever and ' especially
Speaker 1: a young person, which we've never experienced. Can you believe
Speaker 1: that we have never until this particular week have we
Speaker 1: ever lost except my brother who died before I was born,
Speaker 1: But we've never lost a young person of the forty
Speaker 1: fifty whatever generation. So, with that being said, my cousin
Speaker 1: had a seizure while he was driving and he ended
Speaker 1: up laming on his gas, running into another car and
Speaker 1: had a tragic car accident. He had to be cut
Speaker 1: out the vehicle before it was all said and done.
Speaker 1: Every kind of internal problem you could think of, every
Speaker 1: kind of all just types of things, brain swelling, bleeding, body,
Speaker 1: just everything happened to him. And finally, on this past Saturday,
Speaker 1: my aunt had to make and his brothers had to
Speaker 1: make what was probably the hardest decision that they have
Speaker 1: ever made, and then us as a family collectively being
Speaker 1: there to take him off the respirator and within thirty
Speaker 1: minutes he took his last breath, maybe an hour. So
Speaker 1: that has been traumatizing, And with all the situations that
Speaker 1: I experienced, I never really write about it on social
Speaker 1: media because you know, we're so traumatized from the work
Speaker 1: we do that our personal lives become very very quiet.
Speaker 1: People don't know, they have no idea about family things
Speaker 1: that we're having every now, and that you may say
Speaker 1: something before the most part, right, we saw to take
Speaker 1: it on the chin. But this has been so emotional
Speaker 1: and so heart wrenching and just so tragic that you know,
Speaker 1: I have solicited the prayers and support the family and friends,
Speaker 1: and so that is my what has been happening with me,
Speaker 1: but the last week, and it's been pretty tough. We
Speaker 1: have to bury him this weekend and it's just a
Speaker 1: hard situation.
Speaker 3: Well, I just want to send on my condolences to
Speaker 3: the family, to your whole family. You know, it's I
Speaker 3: don't know about a lot of people, but I have
Speaker 3: first cousins that you know, like sisters to me. Most
Speaker 3: of my cousins are females, but I have you know,
Speaker 3: some family males. But it's some in particular that are
Speaker 3: really close to me. So you know, I don't wish
Speaker 3: that on anybody. I know, it's hard just thinking as
Speaker 3: I hear you saying that the mother had to make
Speaker 3: a decision, you know, to yeah to some for him
Speaker 3: to move on, you know. But like I said, you
Speaker 3: know when you told me, we just got to remember
Speaker 3: him in good spirits. You got to remember the person
Speaker 3: because you know, after that situation, him trying to move
Speaker 3: forward and trying to live not like he was supposed
Speaker 3: to live, probably wasn't going to be good for.
Speaker 1: Anybody, No, not with all the ailments that he would
Speaker 1: have had if he lived. His legs would have been amputated,
Speaker 1: he had brain issues because of that car accident, his
Speaker 1: body parts had all different types of things. He would
Speaker 1: have never he would have been my cousin the type
Speaker 1: of person that he was. He would have woke up
Speaker 1: with his legs amputated and been like, who's good idea?
Speaker 1: Was it for me to live with this? Like who
Speaker 1: made this decision? He would never have probably forgiven us
Speaker 1: as a family collectively, because that would not have been
Speaker 1: his way. He owned several barbershops. He had three children
Speaker 1: fourteen years old, seven and eight. He was a get
Speaker 1: up and go person. He and I have often been
Speaker 1: considered like the black sheets of our family because when
Speaker 1: we were younger, we stayed in trouble. But he turned
Speaker 1: his life in the right direction, was doing the right things.
Speaker 1: Entrepreneurship definitely didn't believe in working for nobody, you know,
Speaker 1: and then boom, here we go. So you know, life
Speaker 1: just happens. And as a result of that, all weekend
Speaker 1: I saw people posting a young man in a hospital bed,
Speaker 1: and I kept turning away from it fast. I did,
Speaker 1: you know, I think I liked one of Sean King's
Speaker 1: posts because I saw he was raising money for a family,
Speaker 1: and I already know if Sean posted it. Then I
Speaker 1: saw you posted it. I know it's something that's important.
Speaker 1: But something happened to a young man by the name
Speaker 1: of Ralph y'all, and I know you know the story.
Speaker 1: So I will let you tell this story.
Speaker 4: I I stood by my cousin's bed and I all,
Speaker 4: you know, when the nurse came in to clean him up,
Speaker 4: she asked, you know, people who wanted to leave to leave,
Speaker 4: and those who wanted to stay to stay.
Speaker 1: And I saw his body in the condition that it
Speaker 1: was in. So when seeing Ralph y'all popping up on
Speaker 1: my timeline, it's just something that I could not stomach
Speaker 1: because I was literally standing there looking at another young
Speaker 1: person forty years old, and I know Ralph is so
Speaker 1: much younger, but it just seems like black folks, like
Speaker 1: we just have so much trauma. I know, car accidents
Speaker 1: and things like that happen all the time, but it
Speaker 1: just still just feels like we can't even just live
Speaker 1: a life that we only have the regular things that
Speaker 1: you can't control. Because then you got the Ralph y'all
Speaker 1: situation at the same time. So what happened to him, Well, yeah.
Speaker 3: Ralph y'all was sixteen years is sixteen year old boy
Speaker 3: and he was going to pick up his siblings in
Speaker 3: Kansas City, Missouri, and he went to the wrong home.
Speaker 3: You know, I guess he had the wrong address. He
Speaker 3: went to pick them up, and when he went to
Speaker 3: the wrong home, the homeowner shot Ralph through the glass door,
Speaker 3: shot him once in the head, and then you know,
Speaker 3: he shot him first, then he shot him again in
Speaker 3: the head to make sure that he was dead, you know.
Speaker 3: And by the grace of God, Ralph has survived and
Speaker 3: he's on his way to recovering. But this was a
Speaker 3: white man, you know, And there seems to be absolutely
Speaker 3: no understanding why through a door that you would see
Speaker 3: a young kid who ask.
Speaker 2: I'm here to pick up.
Speaker 3: Something, and just on the mere sight that you would
Speaker 3: try to take his life and said, this is not
Speaker 3: standing in ther ground, this is not anything related to that.
Speaker 3: This is a murderer, mentionally murdered this young black boy
Speaker 3: and calling for justice, you know. And Attorney Lee Merrit
Speaker 3: is on the case along with Attorney Crump. They're both
Speaker 3: working on this case. But it's very, very very triggering
Speaker 3: just seeing those, you know, those pictures of him and
Speaker 3: like you said, in that hospital bad you know, it's
Speaker 3: it's just.
Speaker 2: I don't even understand. I just don't understand what what
Speaker 2: what what what level evil? You know, what it takes
Speaker 2: for me to take somebody's.
Speaker 1: Life, like they're going to say, they're gonna say, which
Speaker 1: you know, I need to Probably this week, I can't
Speaker 1: do it, but I will at some point try to
Speaker 1: get more details. But I'm sure that the excuse is
Speaker 1: going to be that he they felt threatened. They saw
Speaker 1: a man and there's and there's been robberies in the community,
Speaker 1: and there's been this, and I was nervous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's always saying.
Speaker 3: I'm just wanting I want to understand what makes you
Speaker 3: nervous by just seeing a young black man? What what
Speaker 3: was it about him that he did they'll make you nervous.
Speaker 3: He didn't brandish any weapon, he didn't do anything. What
Speaker 3: made you feel like you needed to shoot him? And
Speaker 3: then shoot him in the head, as you said over like,
Speaker 3: I don't understand this level. For me, in my mind,
Speaker 3: it's like you have to for me to just even
Speaker 3: want to harm you, you have to do something to
Speaker 3: me that is drastic. But for me to take your life,
Speaker 3: you know, what you would have to do is just
Speaker 3: stand in front of my door, you know. And I
Speaker 3: don't understand it. I just don't get it. And we
Speaker 3: constantly have these conversations, and young black men are constantly
Speaker 3: the victims of these situations.
Speaker 1: It's sad. I mean, it's just it's just too much.
Speaker 1: It's just too much. And you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: they'll come up with as many excuses as possible. But
Speaker 1: one thing I do know is that with Lee Merrit
Speaker 1: and Ben Crump and Sean King excuse me you, and
Speaker 1: so many others, I see all kinds of celebrities and
Speaker 1: people posting about it. With all of those folks involved
Speaker 1: at the onset versus in the ahmard arbery's situation, it
Speaker 1: took time before people even knew about it, and then
Speaker 1: time for Sean and Lee Merit to work there, you know,
Speaker 1: points of pressure and get everybody involved. But now people
Speaker 1: seem to be engaged in this from the beginning. So
Speaker 1: I think that eventually there will be they'll be an arrest,
Speaker 1: That's what I think.
Speaker 3: But you know, he was let go, you know, that's
Speaker 3: support I didn't really they said he was. He was
Speaker 3: brought down question and didn't let go, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's he's scared. He was scared. That's what
Speaker 1: they're gonna say. He was scared. So you know, it
Speaker 1: is what it is. And there's been, like you said,
Speaker 1: so many different tragic situations happening. Because even over this
Speaker 1: past weekend, while you had you know, my my cousin
Speaker 1: he you know, was in a tragic car accident and
Speaker 1: passed away on Saturday. But then there was a prom
Speaker 1: h two kids at a prom or going or coming
Speaker 1: from a prom. I'm not sure, but I saw that also,
Speaker 1: and those two individuals died in a car accident. And
Speaker 1: by the way, I think, if I'm not mistaken, that
Speaker 1: uh Floyd Mayweather's manager or assistant, a beautiful young woman.
Speaker 1: I think her name was like Kitty or something. She
Speaker 1: it seemed like she died in a car accident. I
Speaker 1: saw a meat mill and Milano posting about another young lady,
Speaker 1: beautiful young lady who died in a car accident. Then
Speaker 1: I think you guys posted a guy recently, some some
Speaker 1: some dude, he died in a car accident. Then you
Speaker 1: had t I's manager or his person, business partner, whatever,
Speaker 1: who had some type of medical issue. People, it's it's
Speaker 1: really a lot of death. It's really a lot of death.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 3: And I said that the other day, man, we have
Speaker 3: to really protect your soul, protect your energy, you know,
Speaker 3: protect your spirit, because death.
Speaker 2: Is you know, it's it's what we have war.
Speaker 3: I think it's you know, and and death is hitting
Speaker 3: us a lot. So I think keep your your surroundings
Speaker 3: and your circumference really tight. Yeah, you know, fast, do
Speaker 3: whatever you gotta do, you know, because a lot going on.
Speaker 1: It is it is, it is and and no, And
Speaker 1: we can't afford to have shootings because we're we already dying,
Speaker 1: were dying from health issues. We're dying in you know,
Speaker 1: like you said, the these these freak accidents, we're dying there.
Speaker 1: God bless our brother Jamie Fox, who had a serious
Speaker 1: medical emergency at the point of us taping. We know
Speaker 1: that he's His family has not updated people on where
Speaker 1: he is now except the fact that he began communicating.
Speaker 1: So you got all of these things happening. We can't
Speaker 1: afford to be fighting one another and shooting one another
Speaker 1: because we are already dealing with all these other challenges.
Speaker 1: And you know, I saw that a sweet Now, one
Speaker 1: thing I did actually read about, and you know, it
Speaker 1: hit me was the sweet sixteen that there was a
Speaker 1: major shooting in Alabama, I believe, I think I remember
Speaker 1: it was in Alabama and four people died. Four people
Speaker 1: at this sweet sixteen, and it brings me to my
Speaker 1: thought of the day. I was really sitting with something
Speaker 1: that I heard last week prior to us going to
Speaker 1: be with Justin Jones in Nashville, Tennessee. As I was
Speaker 1: preparing my remarks, I was doing some research and earlier
Speaker 1: in the morning I saw a historian on the news
Speaker 1: who was talking about the amount of mass shootings that
Speaker 1: had happened at that point last week and how it
Speaker 1: was more than the amount of days in the year.
Speaker 1: So it was like at that particular day, there was
Speaker 1: one hundred days in the year and there had been
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty seven mass shootings. So he was
Speaker 1: reporting that. I thought of the day was that with
Speaker 1: four people shot in Alabama in one place at one time.
Speaker 2: No, it's four people killed, it was twenty eight people shot.
Speaker 1: Wow. Se Yeah, obviously didn't read well enough. So but
Speaker 1: with four people killed, so twenty.
Speaker 2: Eight people injured injured in this.
Speaker 1: Situation, is that counted in the number of mass shootings?
Speaker 1: So every shooting that happens in the black community, black
Speaker 1: and brown communities where there are multiple people shot, multiple injuries,
Speaker 1: do they count those in the number of mass shootings?
Speaker 1: Happening across the country because I believe that if you
Speaker 1: put all of those numbers together, So if the shooting
Speaker 1: in Alabama, because I know one thing in the news,
Speaker 1: they do not call a shooting in an urban community
Speaker 1: where there are more than one where there is more
Speaker 1: than one person shot or more than one injury, I
Speaker 1: have never heard them use the word mass shooting to
Speaker 1: describe it. I've never seen I've never a witness the
Speaker 1: media slowing down. I've never witnessed the legislators having to
Speaker 1: go to the floor to talk about it. I've never
Speaker 1: seen the President of the United States and the Vice
Speaker 1: president going to visit that town or making a speech
Speaker 1: about the horrific incident that has happened in Chicago and
Speaker 1: Louisiana and New York and Alabama. I've never seen that.
Speaker 1: I've never ever ever seen the world focus in on
Speaker 1: the shooting of four five six people injuries as you said,
Speaker 1: twenty eight, but four people dead and call it a
Speaker 1: mass shooting and bring attention to it to make the
Speaker 1: case of why there has to be something done about
Speaker 1: gun violence. And so I wonder why is that, Because
Speaker 1: if you count the number properly, then we've had more
Speaker 1: than one hundred and forty six shootings in one hundred days.
Speaker 1: And now I'm understanding that the number has grown even
Speaker 1: more than that because there are mass shootings that basically
Speaker 1: happen every day. Under the current criteria for how they
Speaker 1: identify mass shooting, there have been more than one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty seven from last week. Right, So let's just
Speaker 1: say the number is at one fifty or one fifty
Speaker 1: one or two. Right. If you add what happens in
Speaker 1: our communities with our people too, that it could be
Speaker 1: two fifty in one hundred and ten day period. So
Speaker 1: we're dealing with the problem of epic proportion and then
Speaker 1: even in counting the numbers. And I'm not blaming the
Speaker 1: person who was on the news and what they're doing,
Speaker 1: because you know they had good intention people who trying
Speaker 1: to present data, right, But I'm just saying in America,
Speaker 1: if we look at an American crisis that does that
Speaker 1: all people are impacted by there is still racism in
Speaker 1: even reporting the numbers of how many people have been
Speaker 1: shot and how many mass shootings are happening across the nation.
Speaker 1: Still black and brown people are not even being counted
Speaker 1: unless like you have in Uvaldi where there were babies
Speaker 1: in the school, so therefore they counted that, but they
Speaker 1: won't even talk about them.
Speaker 2: And if they all counted, they not.
Speaker 3: We don't know it because you said, those are not
Speaker 3: the things that are highlighted. We don't see none of
Speaker 3: the president and nobody going to places in Chicago, places
Speaker 3: in New York where four or five.
Speaker 2: People are being shot at one time. We don't. That's
Speaker 2: not a thing, you know. And that's that.
Speaker 3: Goes back to where the slogan black Lives matter comes from.
Speaker 2: You know, all lives matter. No, we have to tell
Speaker 2: you that.
Speaker 3: Black lives matter because the situations like this, where we
Speaker 3: don't get the attention when the lives are lost in
Speaker 3: our communities. It's it's not seen as something that's tragic.
Speaker 3: It's seen as you know, status quo. You know, and
Speaker 3: that's what I tell people all the time.
Speaker 2: It is status quo.
Speaker 3: It's designed to capitalism and America was designed to keep
Speaker 3: us where we are. You know, we are expendable, we
Speaker 3: are we are products, we are consumers. You know, we
Speaker 3: are all the things that's supposed to feed the economy.
Speaker 3: Black man was never supposed to be benefit off of
Speaker 3: the economy. So that's why when you look at the
Speaker 3: wealth gap and you look at all those things, we
Speaker 3: always we've never represented over two percent of wealth in America.
Speaker 3: It's just never happened, you know why, because we were
Speaker 3: never designed to it. No matter if we were seventeen, eighteen, fourteen,
Speaker 3: fifteen percent of you know, the population, We've never we've
Speaker 3: never achieved over two percent of the wealth gap. So
Speaker 3: when people say things are better, we still are at
Speaker 3: two percent of world gap. So it's not really better,
Speaker 3: you just it's a perceived notion. Because now we have
Speaker 3: social media and people are either able to live about
Speaker 3: wealth or the ones who have wealth, you know, they weren't.
Speaker 3: They didn't see what was already done. So we have
Speaker 3: false sense of reality and false sense of you know,
Speaker 3: growth that's not really happening. So until we get on
Speaker 3: the same page and we start acknowledging what America is
Speaker 3: doing to us and how it's never focusing on us,
Speaker 3: and we start focusing on making sure that we highlight
Speaker 3: that we utilize our platforms, voices and resources and everything
Speaker 3: to combat the violence and the lack of you know,
Speaker 3: sensitivity for the violence in our community.
Speaker 2: We're gonna keep seeing it happen every day.
Speaker 1: That's right, and she'll breathe. I would just say this.
Speaker 1: Someone asked me, actually, while I was at the hospital,
Speaker 1: one of my aunts walked up to me and was like, man, like,
Speaker 1: it's so much killing, just worrying me all the stuff
Speaker 1: going on, worrying about my other little cousins. They going
Speaker 1: to parties and you know, you don't want to stop
Speaker 1: their lives. And she was just like, you know, just
Speaker 1: worries me. It's just so much, and she said, and
Speaker 1: I just wonder, like what it's going to take to
Speaker 1: end it. I'm like, as long as you do not
Speaker 1: put a job resources, proper housing, deal with people's mental
Speaker 1: health issues and their other health issues. Make sure that
Speaker 1: families like mother and father have jobs, not just the
Speaker 1: young person. Because the young person have a little job
Speaker 1: and then they go to work and guess what, all
Speaker 1: their money is being taken up because they either trying
Speaker 1: to help their little sister or give money to their family.
Speaker 1: If you have to make sure that a whole realistic
Speaker 1: approach to the whole family being taken care of and
Speaker 1: not that. And when I say taking care of, I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about giving them a handout. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: giving them an opportunity, educating them properly, making sure they
Speaker 1: have access to clean food and things that like, not
Speaker 1: all the freaking sugar and disgusting stuff that we put
Speaker 1: in our bodies every day. That does not make us healthy.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make us our best selves, It makes us tied,
Speaker 1: it makes us sluggish. Right, make sure that people are healthy.
Speaker 1: If you do that, I bet you you will see
Speaker 1: you talking about reducing violence. That might actually bring it
Speaker 1: almost to a stop. Right you would have you would
Speaker 1: be able to make a clear determination of the shooters
Speaker 1: they would be. They would be they would be so
Speaker 1: they would be known, and they would be easily cast out,
Speaker 1: like we would see them, identify them and they be
Speaker 1: gone because.
Speaker 3: The research, because all everything else would be on points.
Speaker 3: So those, you know, just the negative and evil people,
Speaker 3: it'd be easy to get weeded out, you know, but
Speaker 3: it's a lot of people. I tell people all the time. Look, crime,
Speaker 3: poverty is crime, you know what I'm saying. Poverty is violence.
Speaker 3: And when we can't eliminate poverty, and we can't eliminate
Speaker 3: the things that create poverty, that contribute to property, that
Speaker 3: continue to face the poverty, you know then you can't
Speaker 3: stop violence.
Speaker 2: You just can't.
Speaker 1: So now we are shifting gears to talk about something
Speaker 1: that for the last week I have not been able
Speaker 1: to really get into the way I want to, And
Speaker 1: I guess today begins the beginning of me really trying, trying,
Speaker 1: trying to help people make sense of what took place
Speaker 1: last week.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, the situation with the FBI and Shaquaula Robinson her,
Speaker 1: you know, with with the unfortunate news that we received,
Speaker 1: coincided with my cousin passing away, and for the first
Speaker 1: time in a long time, I was like, I just can't,
Speaker 1: like I just can't do all these things at one time,
Speaker 1: but you all were on it, my son and you know,
Speaker 1: until freedom of course, and then we have the best
Speaker 1: legal team. I tell people in America, if you want
Speaker 1: to know the best legal team in America, you need
Speaker 1: to be following us, because we had the lawyers. Son't
Speaker 1: listen to that bullshit they tell you on the internet,
Speaker 1: because that stuff is not true. So you all know that.
Speaker 1: At some point Attorney Ben Krump, he was he decided
Speaker 1: to take on yet another situation after he learned about
Speaker 1: the unfortunate story of Chanqula Robinson. But that did not
Speaker 1: happen without him having several conversations between myself and this
Speaker 1: young lady who is my our friend, our dear sister,
Speaker 1: who is an attorney that works with Attorney Crump, when
Speaker 1: she stepped in and said, I got this. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm going to manage this case. I'm going to travel
Speaker 1: to Mexico. I'm going to get down to the bottom
Speaker 1: of what happened to Shanmqualla Robinson. And that is Attorney
Speaker 1: Sue Ane Robinson, which is no relation to the Robinson family,
Speaker 1: although at this point she talks to them so much
Speaker 1: that they're probably becoming like, you know, distant cousins. But
Speaker 1: Attorney Sue Ane Robinson has a law firm called Frontline
Speaker 1: Law out of Florida, and she is of counsel to
Speaker 1: Ben Crump Associates, which is being Crump's law firm. Is
Speaker 1: it Ben Crump's Associates?
Speaker 5: Sean ban Crump Law?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's just being Frump Law. Excuse me, I've been corrected, y'all.
Speaker 1: And so, Attorney Robinson, I know you don't have a
Speaker 1: long time today, but we're glad that you have joined
Speaker 1: us to kind of take us quickly through what has
Speaker 1: happened and then we can talk about the whys and
Speaker 1: like who's asked we need to kick I said that,
Speaker 1: not you, and so please let us bring us up
Speaker 1: to speed on what took place last week when in
Speaker 1: the Robinson family Shamfquali's family met with the FBI.
Speaker 5: Okay, sure, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Hey, my son, and my condolences to you Timika and
Speaker 1: your family's loss. Thank you so much for you know,
Speaker 1: coming right back in the game. As always, I appreciate
Speaker 1: you and all the work that your team does. Last
Speaker 1: week we had a meeting with the family with two
Speaker 1: of the US attorneys and two US attorneys and about
Speaker 1: ten or so of federal agents, and they basically said
Speaker 1: that they did their own independent autopsy. After their autopsy
Speaker 1: results indicated something different from the Mexican autopsy, which is
Speaker 1: that there's no neck injury, they decided that they would
Speaker 1: now start an investigation into the case. Then they spoke
Speaker 1: to witnesses, which they didn't tell us specifically which witnesses.
Speaker 1: And then after they did that so called investigation, and
Speaker 1: they decided not to file charge, not to file homicide charges.
Speaker 1: Now it's important too things One because it's a transnational
Speaker 1: criminal case. The only charge is that they can bring
Speaker 1: against a US citizen that commits a crime against another
Speaker 1: US citizen is murdered. So they can't charge anybody with
Speaker 1: assault or battery or something like that, so it has
Speaker 1: to be a murder charge. That's still not an excuse
Speaker 1: because obviously we see what's in the video, and we
Speaker 1: know that Shapula Robinson's body had contusion on her head,
Speaker 1: she had a big knot on her forehead, and that
Speaker 1: she had some contusions around her eyes, and their autopsy
Speaker 1: actually confirmed that she also had swelling on the brain,
Speaker 1: which indicates that she had head trauma. So it's all
Speaker 1: the signs line up in terms of the condition of
Speaker 1: her body for what we see in the video in
Speaker 1: terms of her being beaten. So to me, our first
Speaker 1: question to them was, well, what is your autopsy results?
Speaker 1: Why did that make you start finally investigating number one?
Speaker 5: Because remember our.
Speaker 1: Urgency has always been ta maka that you know every
Speaker 1: day that passes that they weren't investigating or questioning the
Speaker 1: people who were in the home, the travel mates.
Speaker 5: They could be getting their story straight.
Speaker 1: They could be deleting text messages, they could be doing anything,
Speaker 1: and so the FBI admitted that there was a delay
Speaker 1: because they didn't start that investigation until after the autopsy
Speaker 1: results came out, which honestly makes no sense.
Speaker 5: To me, but it it is par.
Speaker 1: For the course because it indicates what we've suspected all along,
Speaker 1: which is they've never taken the case.
Speaker 5: Seriously from the beginning.
Speaker 1: So they did an autopsy on shan Pula's body after
Speaker 1: it had already gone through it thorough autopsy, which Pulla
Speaker 1: and Ms Robinson and the Robinson family have actually authorized
Speaker 1: me to release some of the Mexican autopsy just so
Speaker 1: the public understands, like when the US authorities are saying, oh,
Speaker 1: we did other autopsy and kind of discrediting the Mexican autopsy,
Speaker 1: they will actually see how thorough it was for themselves,
Speaker 1: so that you can kind of say, well, this comparison
Speaker 1: or this kind of disparity doesn't really make sense. But
Speaker 1: the US authorities autopsy was done after the body had
Speaker 1: already gone through an autopsy which includes looking at organs,
Speaker 1: doing certain cuts, and then the body was put back
Speaker 1: together and then embalmed, and then by the funeral home
Speaker 1: and then transported to the United States. So that's when
Speaker 1: they did their autops So the FBI is saying, don't
Speaker 1: trust this Mexican autopsy done by the Mexican authorities that
Speaker 1: indicates that she had a spinal injury that was done
Speaker 1: contemporaneously with her being dead. Trust the autopsy done weeks later,
Speaker 1: after the body has already been prepared for burial and embalmed.
Speaker 1: This is the autopsy that we're using to say that
Speaker 1: we're not going forward with chartists. It's outrageous, it's unreasonable,
Speaker 1: it's disrespectful to Shinko's marry and what happened to her,
Speaker 1: and of course to all of us who can see
Speaker 1: in the video what happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm perplexed because basically you're telling me. First,
Speaker 3: like you just said, you know, you do something. Weeks
Speaker 3: and months later, you do, you perform an autopsy, and
Speaker 3: you come up with the fact that her neck wasn't broke.
Speaker 3: But the fact that you you're making just her neck
Speaker 3: being broke the only criteria for how she was murdered
Speaker 3: to me is crazy. Right when you're saying she has contusion,
Speaker 3: she says all the other things that are you know,
Speaker 3: that are that equate to the fact that she was murdered,
Speaker 3: you know, and they overlooked that because because they say
Speaker 3: that there's no spinal injury, Like, I don't understand. What
Speaker 3: about the rest of us, What about what we're seen
Speaker 3: on the video? What about what we've seen with.
Speaker 1: Our own eyes?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: And then I heard that there was something that said that,
Speaker 3: you know, there was supposed to be like a fight that.
Speaker 1: They agreed she agreed to agreed to a fight two people. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Well here's the issue with that theory. If you say,
Speaker 1: what do you say that? Let me just say this,
Speaker 1: because my song is going, what about the you know,
Speaker 1: the brain, the head injuries? What about this? What about that?
Speaker 1: The other question, what about she's dead? Like is that
Speaker 1: does that play into any What about the fact that
Speaker 1: she's dead.
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying, and all of these things
Speaker 3: that you see that's wrong with her, along with the
Speaker 3: fact that she's dead, shows that somebody killed us.
Speaker 2: So I'm just trying.
Speaker 1: Their position is they cannot determine, based on their autopsy
Speaker 1: exactly what her cause of death is. They are going
Speaker 1: to list her cause of death that's undetermined and not
Speaker 1: go forward with charges, so that in and of itself
Speaker 1: is a conflict. So they're saying, we can't rule out
Speaker 1: that it was based on the fight, and specifically said
Speaker 1: those words. We cannot rule out that she was not
Speaker 1: killed by injuries from this beating that she took, but.
Speaker 5: We're gonna list it as undetermined.
Speaker 1: So so the frustration really, you know, no, you're going
Speaker 1: to get into the part about the two people agreed
Speaker 1: to a fight.
Speaker 5: Okay, so Shankquila.
Speaker 1: They made sure to advise us that Shankqula was being
Speaker 1: a normal twenty year old, twenty five year old that
Speaker 1: was of age on a vacation and was drinking. Oh,
Speaker 1: she was drinking. We were advised she was drinking. Yes,
Speaker 1: we know that. And then she was drinking when she
Speaker 1: got there. Okay, that makes sense. She's on her vacation
Speaker 1: with her okay, and then she was drinking at this
Speaker 1: time and she was drink at this time. So they're
Speaker 1: telling us all this, I understand, to imply even though
Speaker 1: they cannot determine because they didn't do any toxicology because
Speaker 1: they couldn't. They didn't examine any of her organs because
Speaker 1: they couldn't, so the autopsy was very limited. They're trying
Speaker 1: to imply by their own context story that she's intoxicated. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fine, we'll give it intoxication. Then how would they
Speaker 1: be able to then say, oh, witnesses advised us that
Speaker 1: what we're actually seeing is that two people agreed to
Speaker 1: a mutual comment. If she's intoxicated, hot number one, how
Speaker 1: is she going to consent to to to mutual combat
Speaker 1: being beaten to being beaten? No, absolutely, that's what That's
Speaker 1: what we're seeing. That's what we know happened.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, we got trying to be.
Speaker 3: Heard on tape when they tell her to fight back
Speaker 3: and she's saying no, right.
Speaker 1: Because we're all supposed to ignore what we can see
Speaker 1: with our own eyes. That's what we're supposed to do
Speaker 1: and believe that, oh this is the.
Speaker 6: And even if it is, even if it was, which
Speaker 6: it absolutely was not. If you move, if you mutually
Speaker 6: agree to fight someone and the person kills you.
Speaker 2: You responsible murder that person.
Speaker 1: Well here's the thing. Let me just say this, because
Speaker 1: I think the level of disrespect and the game that
Speaker 1: is being played is beyond real. I saw Tina Laws
Speaker 1: and Beyonce It's mother write a long post like this
Speaker 1: shit is ridiculous. It's outrageous what has happened here. And
Speaker 1: it's so sad because in this country we have gone
Speaker 1: from Shanquala Robinson to Ralph y'all so quick that people
Speaker 1: have ship did their attention from last week's thing or
Speaker 1: in between that the Justin's in Tennessee being expelled or
Speaker 1: expawled whatever from their seats. There is so much and
Speaker 1: by the way, during this week, Jalen Walker shot at
Speaker 1: ninety times hit forty something times by police in Akron,
Speaker 1: Ohio is a thing. It's so much shit going on
Speaker 1: that is at this point it's clear that even the
Speaker 1: federal government is playing on the fact that we can't
Speaker 1: stick with one thing but for so long, right right
Speaker 1: and because because because in this situation, nothing you're telling
Speaker 1: me that they're saying makes sense, And I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you why. And I've been trying to understand them because
Speaker 1: I'll be telling my son sometimes like, well you kind
Speaker 1: of got to think about this and that, and then
Speaker 1: then the nine he'd be like no, or we both
Speaker 1: will say, well, you know what, that does make sense
Speaker 1: in this situation, Well we are to I know that
Speaker 1: this is how it works because we from the street.
Speaker 1: All of us here, we've been growing and raised in
Speaker 1: the hood. We know how it works. If me and
Speaker 1: you are fighting and I don't continue to fight back,
Speaker 1: and you are beating on me and I'm doing nothing,
Speaker 1: the fight is over. That is that's it.
Speaker 3: That's the rules of a fish. That's a fight that
Speaker 3: we consent to. Once I'm not fighting back anymore, they
Speaker 3: get that's now.
Speaker 1: Everybody goes around talking about, oh, you got your ass whooked,
Speaker 1: and they walk around telling everybody, and everybody hears the story.
Speaker 5: And you stay in the.
Speaker 1: House the rest of the summer because now you've been
Speaker 1: embarrassed as somebody who got beat down and didn't even
Speaker 1: fight back. That is how it works. The people who
Speaker 1: are there, the friends who are standing around, at the
Speaker 1: point that you stop fighting back and you're taking a beating,
Speaker 1: they are supposed to say it's done. It's over, especially
Speaker 1: if all of us were some point supposed to be friends.
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's now, that's the that's not the law, right.
Speaker 1: But if I die, it becomes a legal thing that
Speaker 1: you continue to beat me to the point where I die.
Speaker 5: I mean, here's the thing, here's the problem.
Speaker 1: Two things. One day wasn't in the hood. They was
Speaker 1: in Cabo. They was spending two k a night to
Speaker 1: stay at the spot who were at the Cabo luxury
Speaker 1: mansion saying let's do a fight club. Nobody, Okay, you're
Speaker 1: not doing that because we are chilling, we.
Speaker 5: Are having drinks, we are hanging out.
Speaker 1: Et cetera. Nobody is up here like you know what, y'all,
Speaker 1: let's take it back to the hood, in the in
Speaker 1: the expensive.
Speaker 5: Mansion overlooking the sea.
Speaker 1: Nobody is doing that. So when the FBI is telling
Speaker 1: me some crazy stuff like that, the disrespect is that
Speaker 1: you would think that I would think that that's what
Speaker 1: they were doing on their vacation. So you're disrespecting me
Speaker 1: and black people by stereotyping and saying.
Speaker 5: Well, y'all, you know what y'all do. It don't matter
Speaker 5: where y'all lie.
Speaker 1: It don't matter that y'all are on the luxury vacation
Speaker 1: in a ten star villa with a private chef.
Speaker 5: This is what y'all do.
Speaker 1: This is some deep shit for real. But you gotta
Speaker 1: come back because you need to go. I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: the time you gave me, so you have to come
Speaker 1: back because we have to continue to break down other
Speaker 1: parts because the next thing we need to talk about
Speaker 1: is what does this mean for Americans traveling abroad who
Speaker 1: believe that there's some type of protection by the American
Speaker 1: government and you happen to be black or a black woman,
Speaker 1: because you know, and by the way, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to Mexico no time soon. I'll tell you that right now,
Speaker 1: because every single few days, twice a week, I've been
Speaker 1: seeing shot killed, captured at sea, kidnapped. That it's not
Speaker 1: the things in Mexico is not going well for American citizens.
Speaker 1: But the last thing I want you to talk about
Speaker 1: before you go is that the family has decided that
Speaker 1: they are not going to let this end here. Is
Speaker 1: it possible that if there's more information that comes out,
Speaker 1: they will be the Feds could change their current position.
Speaker 1: That's one two, because this wouldn't be double jeopardy because
Speaker 1: they haven't charged them. So tell us that ten Mexico's
Speaker 1: still extradite and what is happening on May nineteen, So
Speaker 1: the Feds could indict if they because they said, you know,
Speaker 1: if they get more investigation, that's what they claim, and
Speaker 1: more information, that's what they put in their statement. So
Speaker 1: they're leaving that door open, which again goes to what
Speaker 1: we said from the very beginning. We're expected to carve
Speaker 1: our own path to justice. They want us to do
Speaker 1: their job, so they're not investigating the case. They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: y'all figure it out and then if you bring us
Speaker 1: everything wrapped in the bow, we'll see what we can do.
Speaker 5: Okay, no problem, got you.
Speaker 1: In terms of the extradition, what the family is asking
Speaker 1: for now is for a high level of diplomatic intervention
Speaker 1: in order to prioritize Shainpula's case so that the extra
Speaker 1: extradition process can move forward. Because Mexico indicated that they've
Speaker 1: completed their packet, they've completed their investigation, which we attached
Speaker 1: some of the investigative documents to the letter. So they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: we've already identified as suspect, we're ready to extradite the person.
Speaker 1: We've submitted. We're waiting for you all well, specifically for
Speaker 1: the Department of State to approve the extradition documents. So
Speaker 1: we're saying, listen, if you don't want to press your
Speaker 1: own charges, facilitate and prioritize the extradition process and let
Speaker 1: them get on. Let them get on and be prosecuted
Speaker 1: in Mexico, and that makes sense so for us, and
Speaker 1: what the family is doing and what until Freedom in
Speaker 1: the Community is doing is that on May nineteenth, we
Speaker 1: are going to rally in the US capital and walk
Speaker 1: to the State Department to essentially demand on the two
Speaker 1: hundred day that this takes place, that the case we prioritize,
Speaker 1: and that the person that Mexico has already identified, already
Speaker 1: submitted a packet for, already done their own investigation, be
Speaker 1: extra diuieted to Mexico so that someone who participated in
Speaker 1: this horrific crime is held accountable.
Speaker 2: Sounds and I.
Speaker 3: Just want to say we appreciate you for, you know,
Speaker 3: taking the rains on this and really just every day.
Speaker 3: I know I've been watching you, you know, going to
Speaker 3: Mexico nights, you know, calling Tamika days. Look, this was
Speaker 3: going on you like, y'all y'all really serious, man, and
Speaker 3: I and I love to see how you know, we're
Speaker 3: fighting for black women. I just want you to know
Speaker 3: I got your back. This woman deserves justice. And the
Speaker 3: fact that I would quote unquote Justice Department in FBI
Speaker 3: don't see that.
Speaker 2: It's just it's just it's a disgrace, man.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna keep on fighting and fight don't stop,
Speaker 3: you know, you know one monkey, don't stop, no show.
Speaker 2: That's how they say it. Man.
Speaker 3: So we go on to the next thing. You know,
Speaker 3: if we got to get extradition in Mexico, got to
Speaker 3: do it. But we ain't gonna stop.
Speaker 1: So May nineteen, May nineteen, and I just want to
Speaker 1: say that, you know, Massan, thank you for the constant
Speaker 1: support Attorney Trump. You know, he had the family with him,
Speaker 1: I think in North Carolina or somewhere recently, making sure
Speaker 1: that they get the type of attention people don't. They
Speaker 1: want to know why Ben Frump, because when Ben moves,
Speaker 1: the media moves with him, and cases that would never
Speaker 1: get attention, they get some awareness brought to those matters
Speaker 1: because Attorney Crump, you know, is out there on the
Speaker 1: front line. So thank you, Attorney Robinson. Please go take
Speaker 1: care of your business for the day we already made
Speaker 1: you three minutes late. I appreciate you, and you be safe,
Speaker 1: love you, Sorry, well you.
Speaker 5: I appreciate you. Guys. Hope to see be blessed.
Speaker 1: I mean, if that's not a crock of bullshit, I
Speaker 1: am and you know, some people are gonna say no
Speaker 1: because you don't know the law and this and that. Listen,
Speaker 1: the law I have used me.
Speaker 3: The law has taken young black men's lives for way
Speaker 3: less than that ship. The law has locked us up,
Speaker 3: thrown away the key for ship that's less than that.
Speaker 2: But hearing the voice that somebody's.
Speaker 4: Saying made up, that's trumped up, no pun intended.
Speaker 3: So it's just for me, it's just like I don't understand.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, I don't understand what's going on here. But
Speaker 3: I do understand what's going on here because this is America.
Speaker 3: You know, this is what America does. They show us
Speaker 3: every day how they don't value us, you know, and
Speaker 3: my cadoleas is again to Shinquella's family. But you know,
Speaker 3: we're gonna keep fighting, man, We're gonna keep on fighting.
Speaker 3: I believe like they say, I believe that we were winning.
Speaker 3: We just keep on fighting. May nineteenth.
Speaker 1: I never in my life believed that they were gonna
Speaker 1: do the right thing for Shamfaulla. I never believed it.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna.
Speaker 3: I actually thought this was open and shut, and I
Speaker 3: started to get myself.
Speaker 2: As Listen, these are other black people. They they'll protect
Speaker 2: their people.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't believe. You know why, But I didn't
Speaker 1: believe it. But I tell you this much. Once people
Speaker 1: started to get involved and folks start really calling it out,
Speaker 1: and Ben and Swinn decided to take on the case,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, now we're getting somewhere. But from
Speaker 1: day one I was concerned because I when they originally
Speaker 1: came out with a statement before we saw the video
Speaker 1: saying that there was no foul play and case was closed.
Speaker 1: I already knew right then they didn't even try. They
Speaker 1: didn't even try, so I knew what we were dealing
Speaker 1: with from that, from that exam, they already had a
Speaker 1: statement out before the video was even released that there
Speaker 1: was no foul play and it was done right. This
Speaker 1: was based upon whatever initial whatever, whatever, whatever. So how
Speaker 1: why would I believe that after some days they would
Speaker 1: come back and say, Okay, we saw the video and
Speaker 1: now we're going to do something. I mean, I wanted
Speaker 1: to believe that, but they have shown us over and
Speaker 1: over and over again to your point that we just
Speaker 1: don't we can't get We cannot get the type of
Speaker 1: respect and justice that is consistent because the same Department
Speaker 1: and Justice. We've had many days when we've had to
Speaker 1: talk about how we appreciate the fact that some things
Speaker 1: have moved forward and there has been accountability in a
Speaker 1: few cases. And so some people would say, well, you
Speaker 1: can't win them all. No, you can't win them all.
Speaker 1: But in this situation, we are these eyes. You see,
Speaker 1: these eyes are pretty white today.
Speaker 2: We've seen them with the eyebows. We've seen them with
Speaker 2: our own eyeboat.
Speaker 1: Because of the fact that they did not take it
Speaker 1: seriously and do something to figure out from the beginning
Speaker 1: what was going on. They because this statement is out
Speaker 1: again before the video, so that means that she dies,
Speaker 1: the US is informed, and they make a determination based
Speaker 1: upon Mexico and America at that time said oh, nothing happened,
Speaker 1: and they go forward with putting out a statement that
Speaker 1: says no foul play. Well, in the midst of all
Speaker 1: that they're losing time before bodies being in her body,
Speaker 1: being in balm and all these other things, they're losing
Speaker 1: time to be able to do the proper autosi that
Speaker 1: would help them determine all the things that happened to
Speaker 1: her and the cause of death. So time played a
Speaker 1: role in why Shanquala Robinson is not getting the accountability
Speaker 1: from the American government that she deserves, definitely.
Speaker 3: And then when you talk about them putting the body
Speaker 3: back together, and then I'm saying that the net was
Speaker 3: never separate, like, well, dug, I mean, but it's just
Speaker 3: it's just, you know, it's so much going on, man,
Speaker 3: and it's terrible.
Speaker 2: It's just stupid. It's just really stupid, man.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's called mass My family member ain't number mess.
Speaker 2: That number mess onto onto before before I get into
Speaker 2: my I don't get it.
Speaker 3: I wanted to just give a shout out, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a big sports fan. Yesterday I was
Speaker 3: just in the house after taking my sons to the
Speaker 3: soccer game and watching.
Speaker 2: Them play all day. I was in the house and
Speaker 2: I was watching.
Speaker 3: The Clippers versus the Phoenix game, which was a dope game.
Speaker 3: Shout out to both teams. They played hard. But I
Speaker 3: just I really just wanted to give flowers to somebody.
Speaker 3: And because I watched and and so many ways the
Speaker 3: individual minds me and my out right Russell Westbrook. Right,
Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook is a Hall of Fame, you know, point guard,
Speaker 3: and he's been through the last couple of years. He's
Speaker 3: been through a lot. You know, he went to the
Speaker 3: Lakers and everybody's trying to say he's the cause of
Speaker 3: why they weren't winning. He wasn't playing good, he wasn't
Speaker 3: the people trying to throw them away. They try to
Speaker 3: disrespect him. You got lower level players who have never
Speaker 3: accomplished with these he's accomplished. You got fans disrespecting them.
Speaker 3: You got to make articles about him, everything you could
Speaker 3: think of, and through it all, Russell Westbrook has never
Speaker 3: lost confidence in him like what.
Speaker 2: It takes to be that level of it. Like you
Speaker 2: will watch other.
Speaker 3: Individuals that when they're being criticized and they're not playing good,
Speaker 3: You'll watch them start to lose their own confidence. They
Speaker 3: start to shy away from the moment. They want to
Speaker 3: do less. They just happy to be there. You know,
Speaker 3: they're not taking as many shots. They gonna take two
Speaker 3: shots if they open, they say, I'm not gonna take
Speaker 3: the shot. Russell Westbrook does not have that mentality. He
Speaker 3: has the fearlessness and the heart of a lion. Just
Speaker 3: watching him play every day. If you back up from
Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook, he gonna take the shot. He don't give
Speaker 3: fuck how many people tell me he can't shoot. He
Speaker 3: has a mentality that is only a warrior's mentality, and
Speaker 3: yesterday watching him play, it just made me respect.
Speaker 2: Him so much more.
Speaker 3: He's been traded from the Lakers to the Clippers, and
Speaker 3: watching how he's moved continue to be great, Like he
Speaker 3: pretty much won that game. He did little things that
Speaker 3: if you watch the game and you understand basketball, he
Speaker 3: played a level of defense and the level of intense
Speaker 3: with the level of intensity that nobody else could match,
Speaker 3: because in his mind, he's always the best player on
Speaker 3: the field. I don't give a fuck. The man was
Speaker 3: three for nineteen yesterday he missed. That means he only
Speaker 3: hit three shots out of nineteen. He missed sixteen shots.
Speaker 3: But never did he not take the shots, never did
Speaker 3: he not want the ball, never did he stop being
Speaker 3: aggressive that whole game. He made the biggest defensive play
Speaker 3: of the game and didn't hit two crutch free throws
Speaker 3: that stealed that game. And I just want to give
Speaker 3: give the flowers to Russ because Russ has taken so much.
Speaker 3: And I was watching him and I was looking at
Speaker 3: his eyes, and I know what that is. I know
Speaker 3: when people try to throw you away and tell you
Speaker 3: not as good, and this and that ball off and
Speaker 3: this and that and you and when you have this
Speaker 3: undying belief in you and you know that you're great,
Speaker 3: That's what Russell represents. So I just want to shout
Speaker 3: him out, you know, I want to say, your fearlessness
Speaker 3: and the level of heart that you have is I
Speaker 3: don't think I've seen I've seen some great players, right,
Speaker 3: I've seen great players that when it was told that
Speaker 3: they didn't have it no more and they had not
Speaker 3: just that he was total that they didn't have it
Speaker 3: no more.
Speaker 2: He went to a team right where it wasn't his team.
Speaker 3: Because most of the great players, they stay on the
Speaker 3: team that's their team. So when they getting criticized, they
Speaker 3: still could take forty and fifty shots a game. They
Speaker 3: still starting every game, so they able to the coach
Speaker 3: is still telling me your year. But he went on a
Speaker 3: team where you started to see that they was losing
Speaker 3: confidence in this game, and he never lost confidence in him.
Speaker 3: He still went out there with the same energy and
Speaker 3: went to the next team. And now the level that
Speaker 3: he's playing at and the heart that he always plays
Speaker 3: with is just unmatchment. So I just wanted to shout
Speaker 3: him out and say, man, Russ, continue to do because
Speaker 3: it's inspirational for me watching you. And I was watching
Speaker 3: him yesterday and he was just playing with the energy
Speaker 3: that was unmatched. I don't care how big you was, nothing.
Speaker 3: Russ plays with the energy in that game, with the
Speaker 3: belief in himself that I don't think I've ever seen
Speaker 3: any other basketball player.
Speaker 2: I've seen the greats.
Speaker 3: I don't think that Michael Jordan in his final season
Speaker 3: when he was on walk the Wizards, was playing with
Speaker 3: the level of belief in his game that that Russy
Speaker 3: Westwood plays it. So I just want to say shout.
Speaker 2: Out to Russ. It was a big one yesterday, man,
Speaker 2: and it was motivational just watching you, you know. So
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say.
Speaker 1: That that's amazing.
Speaker 2: It is it is. It is amazing, man.
Speaker 3: You just if you were to watched that game and
Speaker 3: just know what Russ has been through and watch all
Speaker 3: the games he gets criticized or why is he taking
Speaker 3: the shot?
Speaker 2: Because he always believes he gonna make the shot.
Speaker 1: And now that you somewhere in his life there is
Speaker 1: a group and particularly a black woman or many black
Speaker 1: women who believe in him that tell him that he's
Speaker 1: great every single day, bro.
Speaker 3: I hope so because he definitely believes it, and watching
Speaker 3: him play, he believes that there's nobody better than him
Speaker 3: on that court at any given time. He's not gonna
Speaker 3: be swayed. You're not gonna talk about the game. He's
Speaker 3: not gonna have one bit of fear. He gonna step up,
Speaker 3: he gonna play the best player. He's gonna play defense,
Speaker 3: he gonna out rebound seven foot this.
Speaker 2: He just gonna do everything it takes to win.
Speaker 3: So you know, that's the type of person I want
Speaker 3: with me and a bunker and a dog fight back
Speaker 3: to back because you know, when los A draw, he
Speaker 3: gonna be there with you, man, So shout out to
Speaker 3: him and that. So with my I don't get it.
Speaker 3: So you know, I'll always have conversations with people are
Speaker 3: going all online and you know, and there is this
Speaker 3: this notion, right, there's this notion that comes and I
Speaker 3: don't know where it came from.
Speaker 2: I think I know where it came from.
Speaker 3: I think it came from individuals who have low self esteem, who.
Speaker 2: Who who try to hide weakness, who.
Speaker 3: Who actually are afraid, you know, who feel under accomplished
Speaker 3: or whatever it is. But there's the this notion that
Speaker 3: because people have money, or they have things, or you know,
Speaker 3: they have possessions, that they're somehow better than someone else, right,
Speaker 3: And that notion, to me, I vehemently despise it. I
Speaker 3: denounce it. I deny it, and I always say it's
Speaker 3: not it's not what a person possesses, the content of
Speaker 3: an individual's character. And you know, we become so overwhelmed
Speaker 3: by what people possess in today's society that.
Speaker 2: We overlook good people moral.
Speaker 3: And integrity, you know, the same way. I don't just
Speaker 3: respect like I don't. I don't care about how much
Speaker 3: money you got. I don't care how much things you have,
Speaker 3: Just like when the dudes in the street come to
Speaker 3: me and say I'm a shooter and I shot this one.
Speaker 3: I don't care about none of that shit. None of
Speaker 3: that shit don't mean nothing to me. I'm not scared,
Speaker 3: I'm not impressed. None of those things mean Uh. I
Speaker 3: want to talk about the individual you are. You know,
Speaker 3: what kind of friend on you of, what kind of
Speaker 3: heart do you have, what kind of morals do you have?
Speaker 3: That's what divine's and individual And I'm so I just
Speaker 3: really don't get why we allow in this day and
Speaker 3: age that as soon as we start talking about things
Speaker 3: that have to do with character, things that have to
Speaker 3: do with who an individual really is, that some weak
Speaker 3: individual wants to tell me how much money someone has,
Speaker 3: you know, And I really don't get it.
Speaker 2: And I want to say.
Speaker 3: To my young kings and queens, don't let nobody try
Speaker 3: to make you feel less than because they may have
Speaker 3: more than you. Right, because all those things, I've watched
Speaker 3: millionaires have millions and millions.
Speaker 2: Of dollars and go to nothing and have zero.
Speaker 3: But I never seen a person who is a good
Speaker 3: character and integrity ever lose that I've seen. I've seen
Speaker 3: millionaires who was pieces of shit lose all their money
Speaker 3: and still be a piece of shit. When you're a
Speaker 3: good individual, when you're a good when you're a personal
Speaker 3: good moral fiber and integrity and strong character, you can
Speaker 3: lose a million dollars and still be wealthy. Right, some
Speaker 3: people are so poor all they have is money. So
Speaker 3: don't let nobody think or make you think because you
Speaker 3: don't have possessions, that somehow they're better than you, or
Speaker 3: they have.
Speaker 2: Some level something over you. You know, and I don't.
Speaker 2: I want.
Speaker 3: I want to say that because I see it so much.
Speaker 3: I watch social media, and this is why these kids
Speaker 3: are committing suicide. This is why crime raises so how
Speaker 3: because they're trying to They're trying to get the possessions.
Speaker 3: You know that I want to have the money like
Speaker 3: somebody else. If I had the money, then I could
Speaker 3: be this person. No, be this person, be that person,
Speaker 3: Be a person of good character. You know, when you
Speaker 3: do the things the right way and you and you
Speaker 3: live your life in a respectful manner, you're gain the
Speaker 3: money gonna come. But don't don't don't lose yourself trying to,
Speaker 3: you know, to to compete or make somebody make you
Speaker 3: feel like you less than because you don't have possessions. Man,
Speaker 3: it ain't what's in you. I mean, it ain't what's
Speaker 3: on you is within you, man, what you got it
Speaker 3: what sinside your soul?
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: So I just I just wanted to say that because
Speaker 3: I felt like it was a real moment because I
Speaker 3: have these conversations all the time with individuals that want
Speaker 3: to tell me about what somebody has and oh, this
Speaker 3: person's better, he got more money and this and that,
Speaker 3: and I dispel that myth, and I don't want our
Speaker 3: babies to believe that. I want you to understand you
Speaker 3: are just as valuable as anybody.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You are just as value of, not more valuable than
Speaker 3: a lot of these people who so they sold to
Speaker 3: get these possessions.
Speaker 1: I have nothing to add. That was beautiful, beautifully stated,
Speaker 1: and very very true.
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Speaker 3: to me because I meant to say, Harriet Tubman, not
Speaker 3: Rose Fox, because this is the Harriet Tubman thing.
Speaker 2: Look, so what I said when you were like the
Speaker 2: Fox used.
Speaker 1: To have little things around like.
Speaker 3: Most of it is Harriet Tubman that you see with
Speaker 3: the headdress. So I'm you know, let me let me
Speaker 3: follow back.
Speaker 1: I think I think they should put some pictures in there,
Speaker 1: but I do Rosa Fox used to wear her hand
Speaker 1: with headdress.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I know we always see Harry
Speaker 2: with the headdress. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's one of the most famous pictures of Harry. You
Speaker 3: see Harriet with the braids or the head dress. So
Speaker 3: I could be right, but I know what I was
Speaker 3: when I thought about I was like, no, it's more,
Speaker 3: it's more Harry.
Speaker 2: It's more Harry.
Speaker 1: Any well, maybe it was the braids. It was it
Speaker 1: was her braids. I definitely know she used to wear
Speaker 1: a headdress and like a twist, but she did.
Speaker 2: I know, I see one with the head dress.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Harriet, I mean Rosa Parks wore hats and
Speaker 1: then she wore like a braided thing. But she also
Speaker 1: did with her headbands and stuff. So you know, both
Speaker 1: of them was doing rock and they think that's that.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: always be right, I can always be wrong, but we
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