WEBVTT - Draft Show: Could Melvin Gordon Be The Cowboys' Pick?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show. Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>on your war Room for insider news and draft analysis

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<v Speaker 1>from deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at Valley Rand,

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys Select and now your hosts Dane Brudler, David Hellman,

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<v Speaker 1>and Brian brought us. Well, we're just inside a week,

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<v Speaker 1>six days, six days, and this journey will, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>come to an end. Start, We'll be in the start

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<v Speaker 1>of the second day, right, everybody will feel real good

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<v Speaker 1>about their first picks. Over everybody, everybody will. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's college recruiting. It's funny. I'm sick, so of course

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<v Speaker 1>this week I watched last year's twenty fourteen NFL Draft

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<v Speaker 1>to have it saved on my DVR. So while i'm yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working, I'm doing work on the computer, I'm marching

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<v Speaker 1>some tape. I've got last year's draft on the background,

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<v Speaker 1>some background noise, and it's just funny how every pick

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much excitement. So you know, when Johnny Manziel

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<v Speaker 1>was picked Cleveland, oh my gosh, the perspective of a

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<v Speaker 1>year later, it just kind of puts everything in in perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just It's funny how that works. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>find yourself? And that, by the way, folks, is the

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<v Speaker 1>voice of Dane Burglar from CBS Sports. I'm Brian broad

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<v Speaker 1>Us and Kent Garrison driving the boat today. No tiny

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<v Speaker 1>gym today, tiny gym on assignment. So Dan and I

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<v Speaker 1>are going to carry. But yeah, you know to go back,

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<v Speaker 1>do you? You're one of those guys that and scouts

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<v Speaker 1>have this problem that they once they do a draft,

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<v Speaker 1>they forget about those players. You know. I know you

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<v Speaker 1>went back your tow about Martin and guys, Bridgewater guys

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<v Speaker 1>you have. But are you able to just separate immediately

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<v Speaker 1>and say, okay, that's over, put it to bad or

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<v Speaker 1>do you kind of follow along it's what happened. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a little both because you have to part of being

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<v Speaker 1>a scout, I think is scouting yourself self, evaluating what

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<v Speaker 1>you missed on, what you got right, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>can be a better scout and know, okay, well if

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<v Speaker 1>I missed on we're all going to miss players, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of the business. It's all. But it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about batting average, and so you go back and see

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<v Speaker 1>who you missed. Last year. I did not have Odell

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<v Speaker 1>Beckham ranked very high, and so I'm that's a player

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go back and say, Okay, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>why didn't I Why did I not have them ranked high?

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<v Speaker 1>But then there's also players that I hit on, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I make sure and address those players as well.

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<v Speaker 1>What did I like about those players that maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL teams did not A player like Teddy Bridgewater my

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<v Speaker 1>number one player last year. You know, teams scared off

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<v Speaker 1>by the workout. Teams are scared off by his you know,

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<v Speaker 1>skinny shoulders, that type of thing, small hands exactly. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that you know, it's important to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to past drafts and and really study and self evaluate

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<v Speaker 1>yourself so you can be a better scout moving forward. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know, it's funny. Every scouting department I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever been involved with, and the majority of my days

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<v Speaker 1>were spinning pro personnel. So I would always I would

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<v Speaker 1>take those players from the draft and then now they

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<v Speaker 1>became my guys for the next eight to ten years

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<v Speaker 1>or so or less some case less. But I always

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<v Speaker 1>found it funny the scouts when they went back the

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<v Speaker 1>next year and maybe saw guys at training camp or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't didn't have the complete understanding of the They're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that guy, and I'm like, no, you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you had this guy, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 1>show them their notes and stuff like that. It's funny

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<v Speaker 1>how scouts just they take the draft, they use the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>they do the draft, and then they move on to

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<v Speaker 1>the next one. They just totally wash their brain. If

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to say, just hit their race button and

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<v Speaker 1>just push everything out right. So, I totally agree with

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<v Speaker 1>you about the evaluation part. I think that's really going

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<v Speaker 1>to be important. And I think that it is we

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<v Speaker 1>go forward in this and I know you do this

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<v Speaker 1>when you do all your work, and I do the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. I like to compare guys, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>like to say this guy reminded me this guy last year,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy two three years ago. And a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times scouts don't do that. They're just thinking about right now, USC, UCLA,

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame, right, you know, Florida Atlantic. That's all they're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about right now. They're not thinking about these kids

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<v Speaker 1>going on and how they fit well. And player comparisons

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<v Speaker 1>can be a little overrated at times, you know. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone wants to put you know, a square peg or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they want to force it. That's not it's

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<v Speaker 1>not realistic sometimes, But I do think it's important because

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<v Speaker 1>you look at, like I said, Johnny Manziel, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who does he compare to in the NFL? If there's

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<v Speaker 1>not you know, we can't really point to someone in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL that has his size dimensions right his playing style? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a reason for that? Yeah, And and there's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason Russell Wilson fell to the third round because

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<v Speaker 1>the skills are off the charts. But how many NFL

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<v Speaker 1>starting quarterbacks are in the league that are five ten

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<v Speaker 1>and a half? Right? There aren't any. And there's a

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<v Speaker 1>reason for that. And so player like that fell. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's an exception to every rule in Russell Wilson's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those. But I think we're finding out Johnny Manziel

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<v Speaker 1>probably not one of those exceptions. Well, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's an interesting thought there. There's a couple of ways

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<v Speaker 1>two two ninety seven. Kent Garrison has always built on

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<v Speaker 1>our program. You can see the numbers, you can see

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<v Speaker 1>the way to get a hold of us. We love

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<v Speaker 1>to take your questions. This is a good opportunity, Dane,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will be happy to do that and get

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<v Speaker 1>the information to you. A lot of things going on

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<v Speaker 1>this week, Dane, about injury, injury talk backs going up

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<v Speaker 1>and down. You were in a discussion the interactions that

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<v Speaker 1>you have with people on Twitter at DP Brugler is outstanding.

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<v Speaker 1>You had some stories about a Jaye and his knee condition.

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<v Speaker 1>I was able to get some information about that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's talk a little bit about some of these guys. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe it's up and down boards guys, the

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<v Speaker 1>boards are starting to be set. But some of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys like a gi E and also a Randy Gregory,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and things like that. And you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you on and I'll let you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what you've heard about a Ji and and he's been

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<v Speaker 1>one of your favorite players exactly in this draft. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been a guy that you've championed all along, you're

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<v Speaker 1>carrying the flag for him. I've carried the flag for

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<v Speaker 1>Tevin Coleman, who who himself has had his own his

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<v Speaker 1>own toe injury problems but was able to work out.

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<v Speaker 1>But go go through a little bit what you know

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<v Speaker 1>about a Jaii and and and I'm tied it into

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys thoughts here because of the need for a

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<v Speaker 1>running back in this draft, and that to me takes

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<v Speaker 1>a big piece out of that right this time of year, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're you know, a week out, a couple of weeks out,

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<v Speaker 1>and we start to hear about the injuries, start to

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<v Speaker 1>hear about because obviously, you know, us outsiders, we can

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<v Speaker 1>watch a tape and we can grade these guys based

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<v Speaker 1>on talent what we see, but the medical information, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the character stuff that starts to leak out throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the process. And so with Jaya Jaii, something that teams,

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<v Speaker 1>multiple teams have deinged him on the knee, they've read

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<v Speaker 1>flagged it. And this isn't something where a surgery is

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<v Speaker 1>going to help or he's going to be on the

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<v Speaker 1>pup list to start the season. He's healthy to play

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<v Speaker 1>right now. The question is longevity, right, And this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that you know his agents trying to do some

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<v Speaker 1>spin out there and try to, you know, make downplay it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's something that teams are concerned about. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna go and drafted, but he could slip farther

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<v Speaker 1>than he should be drafted in the first place. He's

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<v Speaker 1>to me, he's a top forty, top fifty pick, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a good chance he might slip to

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<v Speaker 1>the end of second round, maybe into that third round,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe into the fourth round. We'll have to see how

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<v Speaker 1>it plays out. But teams are concerned. I know one

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<v Speaker 1>team that just failed. They filled him on his physical

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<v Speaker 1>completely right. Other teams it's just more of a concern um.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it'll be interesting see how it plays out. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there could be a team that says, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to take the chance that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's bone on bone right now that need there's no

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<v Speaker 1>not much cartilage, no way to fix it exactly. He

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<v Speaker 1>could play one game, he could play five years. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Yeah, we'll take a Chaemiah Trotter. It was

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<v Speaker 1>my experience in Philadelphia the ninety eight draft, uh bone

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<v Speaker 1>on bone Trotter out of Stephen F. Austin. Doctor told me,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian ten games or ten years, you don't know, so,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's the chance you take, right exactly. And so

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<v Speaker 1>he we could see a team in the second round

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<v Speaker 1>take a chance and say we'll take a chance that

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<v Speaker 1>he'll he'll make it through his rookie contract. See that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's an interesting point because I'm looking at a team

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<v Speaker 1>like the Cowboys who is not interested so much, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that second year contract of a running back, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, why not just say, okay, we're gonna use

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<v Speaker 1>him up for the four years and then if if

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine, well, you know, maybe we'll do something. But

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<v Speaker 1>if not, we'll just draft another guy. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of teams are of a similar thinking when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to these backs. But when you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a second round player, and then when with a GI,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes on the value. What's his draft value? And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think we're talking more third fourth round in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of his value and instead of the second round,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Tape says, and so I could he still

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<v Speaker 1>go second round? Shure, it's possible if a team says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, we'll take that chance. But there are concerns.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that teams are talking about and I know

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Mike Mayock talked about it yesterday as something you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he confirmed he's talked to teams. They they're worried about

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<v Speaker 1>the need to I talked to this bunch here there

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<v Speaker 1>there there there is concerned. And so at sixty if

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<v Speaker 1>he's on the board, not so much of a slam

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<v Speaker 1>dunk that we thought about maybe a month ago for

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<v Speaker 1>JGII there and you know, we didn't think he would

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<v Speaker 1>make it to sixty. But even if he does, now

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<v Speaker 1>there might be a better back on the board. They

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<v Speaker 1>focus on another player defensive end again a need for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are looking at Shane Ray being that type

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<v Speaker 1>of a player though. Went saw a specialist really calling

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<v Speaker 1>kind of turf toe, maybe a very aggressive form of

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<v Speaker 1>turf toe. Um. A lot of teams had him initially

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<v Speaker 1>as a top ten type of a player, right. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to hear things about him sliding down the

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<v Speaker 1>board because of the surgery or are they teams thought

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<v Speaker 1>that he might need surgery, but he's gone out and

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor said no rest. Yeah. I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>something though that's always going to hamper him though, well,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in that position. Yeah, exactly, that's it. His best

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<v Speaker 1>trait to me is his first step. Absolutely, it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best first steps, if not the best first

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<v Speaker 1>step in this class. But when you're talking about that,

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<v Speaker 1>that toe, traditionally it's an injury that that plays guys

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<v Speaker 1>for years. It does not just go away. And I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've talked about it before. How a toe

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't seem like it's that big of a deal,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is. It's something that hampers guys. And so

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<v Speaker 1>again talking about value, where do you take a chance

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<v Speaker 1>on this guy? And this is where it gets it

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<v Speaker 1>gets muddy. Where do you take a chance on Shane

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<v Speaker 1>Ray if he's there at twenty seven? Yeah? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>is is that possible? You can't rule it out? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's injurious. It sounds like to me listen to people

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Ray that it's split when but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>still a first round talent might slide through. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get into we've we've got We've talked about two

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<v Speaker 1>thumbs up for Gurley, which means he'll probably be where

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<v Speaker 1>what we thought. But let me talk about a boohee

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive tackle from Texas A and M And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>starting to hear some whispers I know You've talked to

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<v Speaker 1>some people as well, did have him pretty high on

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<v Speaker 1>some draft boards. Is what is it gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>pup situation for him or is this something that you

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<v Speaker 1>know that it's gonna be a total red shirt year

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<v Speaker 1>that you might have to take a guy in the

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<v Speaker 1>first round and red shirt and for a year towards

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<v Speaker 1>a scl in the ball game. So about a month

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<v Speaker 1>difference from Gurley. But we're also talking about a player

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<v Speaker 1>with uh, you know, a little more weight on them, yea.

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<v Speaker 1>And these knees are all different, you know, two knees

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<v Speaker 1>are the same. But I think where it's more towards

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<v Speaker 1>a pupe situation rather than having to miss the entire

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<v Speaker 1>rookie year. And that's why I think we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>him being a possible first round player. Yeah, and based

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<v Speaker 1>on talent, maybe top ten player right into his draft,

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<v Speaker 1>A player that below the waist, his feet are outstanding, right.

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<v Speaker 1>You love the flexibility lower body, the fluidity upper body.

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<v Speaker 1>Needs some work. His technique with his hands, his punch

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<v Speaker 1>needs a lot of work there, but you know coaches

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<v Speaker 1>will love to get their hands on him because he

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<v Speaker 1>has the traits that you can't teach. Now that's the feet,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the lower body fluidity to mirror rushers. And so

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<v Speaker 1>late first round, that's what I'm saying now. I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask you this question though, with what the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys have done, right, would a booy be a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that you knew you could red shirt and play in

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<v Speaker 1>place of Doug Free in the coming years or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I mean, I mean the Cowboys have a

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<v Speaker 1>million eads. And again, the draft show always trying to

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<v Speaker 1>encompass all possibilities, not going to sit there and tell

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<v Speaker 1>you have to take a running back, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>take a ryanbacker, you have to take a defensive in.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to keep an open mind about this, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And you said late one, And I wonder if the

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<v Speaker 1>scouts and the coaches feel feel well enough about him. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some teams at the bottom of the first round,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm starting to hear whispers on, much like

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<v Speaker 1>you are. And I wonder if some teams are going

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<v Speaker 1>to say the talent is too good to pass up

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<v Speaker 1>there with other needs on the board, right, But but

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<v Speaker 1>he's just that talent of a player. And again, picking

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<v Speaker 1>at twenty seven, there's a good chance you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be getting a second round player or your first round

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<v Speaker 1>options are wiped out right, and so depending on who's

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<v Speaker 1>on the board. Absolutely, we could envision a scenario where

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<v Speaker 1>a boy he's the top talent on the Cowboys board.

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<v Speaker 1>That's certainly conceivable. So in that situation, we know what

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<v Speaker 1>they've done to address the offensive line in the first round,

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<v Speaker 1>could they do it again for the future in mind? Exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what you have to have, the future in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>With the hearty stuff coming down this week, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people are saying, well, now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>the strategy shifts. That's not that's not the case exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't draft your top need is not your

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<v Speaker 1>first round pick. Right your first round pick, you get

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<v Speaker 1>the best talent available. See who falls? Do you play

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<v Speaker 1>the draft board and you just can't rule out a

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<v Speaker 1>talent like that aggie tackle. Yeah, well, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of guys that if they start sliding down the board,

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<v Speaker 1>and Gregory being one of those. But that's off field

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. Okay, Ken't has got some calls lined up.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll go ahead and take a call or two, can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna turn it over to you to grab those

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<v Speaker 1>calls right before we go to our break. So go ahead, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark and Mission Texas. Mark, We're doing great. What's your question.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been going guys. Drafts is awesome, Thank you. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>draft coming up week away exciting. But I was wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>with all the hardy prospection and stuff, is there any

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<v Speaker 1>free agents up there, decent events that can come in

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like Mensie did a year ago. I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>along the lines like Big Klan Powers or somebody like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh listen, I'll hang up and listen. Jo. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know, you gotta be real careful. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to some of the pro guys about this.

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<v Speaker 1>With the Cowboys, They've got three compensatory picks right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and the plan, like you said earlier, it was to

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<v Speaker 1>draft a guy. I think they're still going to draft. Agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they want to mess up their compensatory

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<v Speaker 1>things by bringing somebody in that might or might not

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<v Speaker 1>make this team, right. I don't see right now unless

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<v Speaker 1>somebody has a June one cut or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that to bring. And I think they're focusing

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<v Speaker 1>on the draft, whether that is. You know, we we

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<v Speaker 1>were one of the first ones to talk about Frank Clark.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's had this meteoror like rise through the

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<v Speaker 1>up the draft boards because people are now figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>second round talent. For sure, where do you take him?

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Cowboys are more interested in saying we're

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<v Speaker 1>willing to go and draft somebody, then we will to

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<v Speaker 1>go out and get a veteran guy. Right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you nailed it with the June first. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you wait and see what happens, that maybe something something

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<v Speaker 1>happens there where you can go and get a player.

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<v Speaker 1>But who's available right now? I just don't see a

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<v Speaker 1>player that's gonna is worth going out and getting. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're right about sticking to the draft. A guy

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<v Speaker 1>like Frank Clark a third, fourth round, right you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we know we've talked about his issues. To me. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still not sure where personally I would feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>drafting him because there are the issues. But talent wise,

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<v Speaker 1>you are talking about a second round talent, a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that he beats up blockers with his hands and he

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<v Speaker 1>disrupts what happens in the pocket. So you have a

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<v Speaker 1>good player who you could get at a discounted price,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is a reason for that discount and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's there is a little bit of a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>worry there, but still a good player that if you

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<v Speaker 1>can get in the third fourth round, Yeah, makes some sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Cowboys have really done their due diligence

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<v Speaker 1>on this player with visits, workouts. They're getting to know

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<v Speaker 1>this player. And I had a I thought the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>round was always kind of a round, and I used

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<v Speaker 1>to call it the criminal and medical round. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>where you a gye where Frank Clark, those kind of

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<v Speaker 1>guy that that was back in the day. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to take this kid a lot earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wouldn't be surprised at ninety one depending on

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<v Speaker 1>the way the draft fell. If you don't get a

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<v Speaker 1>first round defensive end, whether that's Gregory Oh, somebody slides

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<v Speaker 1>down the board to get to them a defensive then

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<v Speaker 1>their plans have not changed one bit as far as

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to get a defensive end. But again, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's going to be drafted a guy and not

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<v Speaker 1>going out free agency. Agree, All right, kitt, do we

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<v Speaker 1>have another call? Yeah? We got Shane and Washington. Shane,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the Draft show. Yeah? Hi? So anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>was wondering Abdullah the running back from the Brown guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's probably not worthy the second round pick, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but do you feel that that's maybe where we might

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<v Speaker 1>have to take him if he's available. I know he's

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<v Speaker 1>got fumbling issues and durability might be an issue with him,

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<v Speaker 1>but again, do you feel he's worthy of a second

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<v Speaker 1>round pick? I just stopt see him there for the

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<v Speaker 1>third round. And my second quick question is how does

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<v Speaker 1>Ray from Fort Worth get on all the time? Does

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<v Speaker 1>you have like a special hotline? Thank you? Yeah, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you because he calls all the time. Yeah, Ray, Rays

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<v Speaker 1>would our good callers, So thank you very much. A call, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>a dress address? Abdula, I mean, we've got some smart

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<v Speaker 1>callers because I think he nailed it with probably a

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<v Speaker 1>third round player. But yeah, in this late second round

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<v Speaker 1>with the Cowboys, running backs might be wiped out. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what you know, Duke Johnson, Tevin Coleman, you know

0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.920
<v Speaker 1>these guys that right, they might be wiped out. So

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<v Speaker 1>at that point in the draft, you might have to

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<v Speaker 1>take an Abdula in the lad second round. He might

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<v Speaker 1>not only be one of the better players available, but

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<v Speaker 1>he might he obviously fits a need of running back

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<v Speaker 1>with a duela. There's so much to love about him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's so quick and he's he's not only quick with

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<v Speaker 1>his movements, but he's quick thinking. He reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>a chess player where he's two moves ahead of you

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of beating the defenders. So he can contribute

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<v Speaker 1>as a pass catcher. I really worry about him in

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<v Speaker 1>pass pro. That's a that's an area where I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable with him contributing, especially early in his career

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<v Speaker 1>going up against some of the pass rushers in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the late second round, absolutely, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot rule him out as an option. Okay, well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>good questions, and thank you very much for those early calls.

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<v Speaker 1>That's for you. For Thursday, Friday, Wednesday, we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>we would do a mock draft the seven rounds. I

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<v Speaker 1>figure the best time to do a mock draft is

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<v Speaker 1>right before the actual draft itself, So all hands on deck,

0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 1>be ready for ups and downs. Players there, players not,

0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:17.680
<v Speaker 1>their decisions to be made, trade charts all different, yeah,

0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:21.080
<v Speaker 1>so many different scenarios. And now that we know who's healthy,

0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:24.280
<v Speaker 1>who's not healthy, where guys sit on boards, it will

0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:26.800
<v Speaker 1>be a lot easier for us to have a really

0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:29.760
<v Speaker 1>good mock draft. So look forward to that. On next

0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Wednesday at eleven am Central Time. So with all that

0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:38.199
<v Speaker 1>being said, with no tiny gym here today, I'm going

0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:40.719
<v Speaker 1>to turn the show over to Kent. Garrison and Kent

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:43.120
<v Speaker 1>give it to us. Yeah, we are gonna take one

0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:45.280
<v Speaker 1>call before we hit Twitter on the twenty Hare Chandler

0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:49.320
<v Speaker 1>in Oklahoma. Chandler, We're doing great. What's your question, sir? Yeah?

0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I have two quick questions, guys. First off, I keep

0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.800
<v Speaker 1>seeing a lot of mocks. They mocked the two cornerbacks,

0:22:54.800 --> 0:23:00.000
<v Speaker 1>one from LSU from one from Yukon, Collins and Jones. Yeah,

0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and well the Yukon kids seems a lot like just

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:05.760
<v Speaker 1>a workout warrior to me, because you didn't hear about

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 1>him the entire college football season, and then he just

0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 1>blows up the combine, So that worries me. And then

0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:14.080
<v Speaker 1>this LSU guy, he has like four starts in his career.

0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:17.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm exaggerating a little ten, Yeah, but so

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.200
<v Speaker 1>how in the world are you gonna expect ten to

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:23.199
<v Speaker 1>go from from ten starts, you know, in college and

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:27.439
<v Speaker 1>then be a decent foe. And then my second question is,

0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I know it might seem crazy, but what do you

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.679
<v Speaker 1>think the trade value would be for Dez Bryant Because

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:36.440
<v Speaker 1>he's a little disgruntled. He wants a new contract. We're

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:38.879
<v Speaker 1>not really sure if we're gonna pay him the bookoos

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 1>and money they won. So let's say Jacksonville called with

0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:46.199
<v Speaker 1>the third pick, or or Oakland with the fourth, and

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:48.199
<v Speaker 1>they said, hey, we'll give you this year's four, this

0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 1>year's three, and we'll give you next year's one and

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:53.560
<v Speaker 1>two or something like that. You think that will entice

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:55.639
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys because then they could get a March Cooper

0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:57.679
<v Speaker 1>and then they'd have a pick next year and be

0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 1>really set up really well to get whoever they want

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.200
<v Speaker 1>to get next year. So those are my questions. I'll

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 1>get off the phone things after taking my call. I'm

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:08.680
<v Speaker 1>not trading Dez Bryant. I don't care what a team

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 1>offers me and give you multiple first round picks. I'm

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 1>figuring figuring out a way. I like the outside the

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.679
<v Speaker 1>box thing. I mean, you know, it's one thing, guys,

0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>and I really appreciate that call because a lot of

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 1>people tell you, well, just trade car just trade I

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>mean he's thinking about you're taking a more key player

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:32.360
<v Speaker 1>and you're trying to maximize the value of the player, right,

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 1>And if you're the Cowboys, you're in win now mode.

0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, as much as you want to build for

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:40.679
<v Speaker 1>the future as well, you also have to keep in

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 1>mind how many years as Romo have left. You don't

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 1>have that quarterback of the future set up. You don't

0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 1>know what's going to happen three years from now. I'm

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:49.880
<v Speaker 1>trying to win these next two years. And the best

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 1>chance of winning these next two years is having Does

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Briant on my roster and you know, just trying to

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 1>fill this team with as much talent as possible, but

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 1>keeping the mark key players like you just said, on

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:03.919
<v Speaker 1>the roster. So if you were to make the trade,

0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 1>who would you take at three? Would you take? Was that?

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Is that? Is that Fowler? I mean that helps your

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>defensive end spot? And is that is that the route?

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Or is you take with Leonard Williams be an undertackle? Yeah?

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Leonard Williams. I think he's the best player in the draft. Yeah,

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.479
<v Speaker 1>Dante Fowler's right there. I mean, he's see I had

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Tennessee take and I don't know why. I just thought

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Tennessee was gonna take Williams. Sarah. Oh yeah, I mean

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:29.639
<v Speaker 1>I said I would sure, But I mean, if you

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:31.399
<v Speaker 1>if you did have the third pick. If you you

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.640
<v Speaker 1>would take Fowler, I would lean towards Leonard Williams get

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 1>that undertackle. Yeah, I think I think he He's not Sue,

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 1>but he has some special traits for such a player

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that's twenty years old. He I think, I really believe

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 1>he's going to get better and better and better. So

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.159
<v Speaker 1>and I love Fowler is one of my favorite players

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>in this draft. But I think, did you grab a

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 1>receiver at twenty seven? Are you gonna take there? I

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>mean you could look at you know, Jalen Strong, Uh,

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Philip doors Set Uh, Perryman. Yeah, guys that are nice

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>players that could have a place in this team. Beckham,

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 1>is he worth the worth it right there? Well, that's

0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I'm talking about a guy that's potentially

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 1>late one right. Yeah, No, he'll be in that mix.

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Um Me, personally, I'm not doing it. I'm training for No,

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not give me des Briant a known commodity. Where again,

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 1>we have a two year window here where I think

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 1>we have a really good shot at going to the

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>super Bowl, And so I'm going to surround my team

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>with as much town as possible. And now you're gonna

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.640
<v Speaker 1>ride and that's and that's I think that's the right

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 1>thing too. But again it's an outside the box thought. Yeah, which,

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's maximizing the best. Do you think that Jacksonville

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.679
<v Speaker 1>might be bad again next year? Sure? And then all

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:44.639
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden you got another early one. I'm all

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 1>for draft picks, but yeah, yeah, that'd be proud of

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.439
<v Speaker 1>you for not trading out of there. And by his

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>original question, uh, Jalen Collins Byron Jones, Yeah, I think

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>he's absolutely correct about Jalen Collins. I do two about Collins.

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm an LSU guy player starts in his career. He agreed.

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 1>He they gave a chance to start, pulled him off

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that game. Another shot pulled him off the field. There's

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of inconsistency both technique discipline. But when you're

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:10.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, six one and a half, you can move

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:12.639
<v Speaker 1>like he does. Teams are gonna like those traits and

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 1>take you early. But you can't rule him out at

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, depending on how the cornerbacks go. Um and

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:19.679
<v Speaker 1>then Byron Jones, I get why people say the workout

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.400
<v Speaker 1>warrior stuff, but his shoulder would have played a lot more.

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>He missed half the season. Yeah, almost all the yeah

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>in October and we missed the rest of the season.

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Has shoulder surgery. He was an invite to the Senior Bowl,

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>couldn't participate the shoulder, and he played on a terrible

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 1>team at Ukon. And if he was at you know,

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.439
<v Speaker 1>Florida State and he got hurt, we still would have

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 1>heard about him. Or I mean we knew about him,

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 1>we just didn't. He's not a name that you know,

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>popped up a lot in conversation, but Byron Jones much

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 1>more than a workout warrior. His tape absolutely backs up

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 1>what he shows. He's a he's a second round player,

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe a late first who's who probably gonna be somewhere

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>in those twenties. See, that's what I was talking about.

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Fans are catching up to what the scouts knew. Right,

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:01.879
<v Speaker 1>we always had that the scouts have an idea that

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Jones was a first round player. Then all of a sudden,

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 1>now the scout of the media scouting world is now

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 1>catching up to the player. Okay, KNT, you got it.

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Go Twitter. Okay, we got clothes here. Not really, it's

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 1>more like Twitter on the thirty. So go ahead, get

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be a lot of questions about these about

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>these cornerbacks. Uh, this comes from Ken Green is off

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the field issues the only reason Kevin Johnson is ahead

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.919
<v Speaker 1>of Marcus Peters. I think Peters is a better playmaker.

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>You like Peters a lot, though, I do like Peters

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot, and if if you say he was, you know,

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.919
<v Speaker 1>the perfect teammate, I think he'd be competing with Wayne's

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>for that top spot in this cornerback class. Uh, it's

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>just a I love the the attitude that he brings

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>on the field, he just can't really shake it off

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>of the field, and so, um, he's not gonna be

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>on every draft board. But um, you know, in my rankings,

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I have Wayne's, Kevin Johnson, and then Peter's third. So

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>to me, if it's not for the issues, Peter's probably

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 1>above Johnson. But Johnson's a good player who I'd love

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>having there at them. I think there's some people that

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>might even like Johnson better than Wayne. I mean, you're starting,

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you're starting to hear that. So yeah, I think that.

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:10.719
<v Speaker 1>To me, Peters is a guy, and you're absolutely right,

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of draft boards won't have him. Mean, you

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>got two different sets of coaches at two different programs, exactly.

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Still talking about we talked about that back in anyway. Yeah,

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>that's that was something. So yeah, I think that he's

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>a very talented football player. But in my book, Johnson's two,

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Peterson's and Peters you know, you like him better probably

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>in press. I mean that's absolutely that's what he does best.

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Not not so much an off man, but with Kevin Johnson,

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>he's shown he can do both. He can do both,

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>man zone, whatever you want to do, you can do

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>it all. Absolutely. This is from Addison. If Buddupree falls

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>between fifteen and eighteen, like some mocks have him, would

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>we trade up at that point to go get Budd debris?

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, we're talking about having to trade up to

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>get into fifteen. In between fifteen and eighteen, you have

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>to give your second. Yeah, we've done that before. We've

0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 1>talked about the two and the five going to Houston,

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>and we've done that before with the the Gurly trade

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>is what we've done. So once again, Cowboys sitting at

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>six hundred and ten points, Houston sitting at eight hundred

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and seventy, you're gonna make up those points right there.

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be a two and to five. So if

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>you want to go. You know, I I think Gurley

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>would be the only guy that I would trade up for.

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>And I might consider trading up for one of the corners,

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>one of the top two corners if that was the case.

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 1>But I think that the sitting there for just waiting.

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Let bud Dupree. If he's there, great, If not, you know,

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>move on. I'm with you. If girls, if Girly slips

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, he's in there in the mid first Yeah,

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>you need to have that conversation, right, you need to

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>talk about is it worth to move up? And right

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>it might be worth it. Yeah, girls, that special. I

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>just have a feeling. And there's some teams that might

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 1>have Gregory over Dupree on their board, you know, so

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the one that starts sliding might be great. I'm taking

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>a chance that Gregory's gonna slide. Now if he gets

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>past New Orleans those people at thirteen. You know, now

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you're starting and see I you know that that's gonna

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 1>be a little interesting to me once he gets past

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>a top fifteen top of a teams. See where And

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 1>we talked about it all the time, But having that

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh pick and having twenty six players gonna be

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>off the board before you pick, right, makes it so

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>tough to know, uh, you know who's gonna be on

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the board for you at twenty seven, Right, So when

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>you're debating whether or not to trade up, you can't

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>guarantee that a first round player or someone that you're

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>high on will be there for you at twenty seven.

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 1>So that has to factor into it. I don't know

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>if I'm giving up an opportunity to get Frank Clark

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>with my third if to go up. I don't know.

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I like Frank Clark that much. Okay, Stephen Mullenax, this

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>is kind of a crazy question, but but it's a

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>good one. If Marcus Mariota has an Aaron Rodgers type

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 1>slide in this draft, would the Cowboys consider selecting Mariota

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>at their first round at twenty seven at twenty seven? Yeah,

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>not trading up. No, just he's talk about because Rogers.

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was twenty four, right, yeah, right. Ted

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Thompson had no intention of taking Aaron Rodgers. He was

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>looking defense at that time. I mean, I don't think,

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't I think it's a no brainer. Yeah it is.

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 1>It's completely unrealistic, but yeah, he's not getting past say

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>the Browns twice at twelve and nineteen right there. Yeah,

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he gets out of the top six.

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 1>But saying that does happen, then I think you need

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>to get on the phone and figure out. Yeah, exactly,

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you need to get on the phone and say, well,

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>what's going on? Did he get arrested last night? Exactly? Yeah? So,

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, if he's there at twenty seven, yeah, you'd

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>tell you all right, Gordon Harper, this is this is

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>a question to you guys, more about what you guys

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>do in the film room. Which position is the hardest

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 1>degrade after quarterback? And which do you spend the least

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>amount of time on? Tied end? Is mine in terms

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>of the toughest, No, in terms of least least. Yeah.

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I have little patience with tied end play, especially if

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you can't block very well at the point of attack,

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>or you and you're not getting not getting up to

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>feel very quick, right, I don't. I mean, I have

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>real issues with that. Kickers and punters from me. I

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>spend maybe a few days there looking at an entire

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>year and that's it. That's I just I I need

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 1>to get better in that as a self evaluator. We

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>talked about that kickers and punters. I just I don't

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a big fan of those guys. How about

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>hard position is to do? Uh? Like linebacker? Okay? For me,

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>it's safety. Yeah. Safety is difficult because you're trying to

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>think about I said linebacker because sometimes you don't know

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 1>what's scheme. Yeah, exactly. You know, you don't know if

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>if a guy's taught to do, is he's supposed to

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>stay here and read? Is he's supposed to So you're thinking,

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>are you mistaking uh, lack of lack of football intelligence

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>on you know, his movements and stuff like that, on

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>what he's being taught to do. And you can say

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>the same thing too at safety. Yeah, in safeties, especially

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>today's college football with so many spread offenses, right, it's

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, sometimes these guys that get burned when you

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>know their responsibilities are given just make it tough to

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 1>really fully evaluate them. And even when you you're watching

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 1>the All twenty two, Yeah, it's just tough to really

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>read these guys read. I remember when we were doing

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Ed Reid in this room. Ed Reid played off the screen.

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>He was off the he was off the screen, and

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I remember Jerry Jones, and I was responsible for the

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>red dot. Put the red dot where he is? And

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I was the identifier. And every time Jerry, so where

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 1>is he? And I do I would put the red

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>dot afoot off the screen on a taphone. Yeah, the

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>games and Coral Gables and he's playing in Fort Lanel

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Fort Water. I don't know. I mean that's how you

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>know how part they were? Well? In another position for

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>me on offense is center. Um, because they're so again

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>talking about you know, zone blocking schemes and and and

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>in different blocking schemes that that plays a part and um,

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you know center, there's a lot that goes into it. Uh,

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:36.360
<v Speaker 1>and so much on the intelligence exactly making the calls,

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>being able to sign it identify me snap. So there's

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot that goes in the center that we can't

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 1>just necessarily see on tape. Yeah, this calls is from correct,

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 1>This questions from correct. I don't hear much about the

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 1>D tackle position. Is this team okay with what they

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 1>have at D tackle right now? Upgrades? I think there

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:56.839
<v Speaker 1>and and and now you have to determine now needs

0:34:56.880 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>to be the determination of where you have Carl Davis

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you know if Carl Davis. If you've seen Carl Davis

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>play as a three. The big thing with these guys

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>about the tackle now, and the reason they would or

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:12.839
<v Speaker 1>would not take a guy would be because how many

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 1>down player is he? Is he a one down player,

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>two down player, three down player? What is he? Right?

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 1>I think Carl Davis is a guy that when you

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 1>start talking about other than Williams being that undertackle, you know,

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that you have to think about Carl Davis

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.359
<v Speaker 1>because I've seen him play the one and the three.

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.879
<v Speaker 1>Now again, would they take him at twenty seven? Very well?

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Could because he would be an upgrade over what they

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>currently have. They like McClain, Terrell McClain, but they want

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 1>to get a more athletic Nick Hayden right. So to me,

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you can play potentially play Davis at

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the three or start him at the one, I think

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 1>is something that they would look into. Right. That versatility

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>is key and for a player that's six five three twenty.

0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>We talked about the planet theory. There's only so many

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>human beings on this planet that can move like that,

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and Davis the production is not impressive. Three and a

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>half Sacks's entire career. Yeah, but he does. He can

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 1>play the three, he could play the one U and

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 1>a similar player Malcolm Brown if he falls the twenty seven,

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:14.879
<v Speaker 1>which is possible, right, you know, I think he could

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 1>be in the conversation as well. A player that, in

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:19.400
<v Speaker 1>my mind, can play anywhere from the zero side of

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:21.839
<v Speaker 1>the five. You can play anywhere in between. So I think, yeah,

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:24.839
<v Speaker 1>you're absolutely right, Carl Davis. If that first round board

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>gets wiped out, got it. Yeah, But I didn't like

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 1>what mcshaye did with Golden at twenty seven on that

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 1>ESPN mock right, right, right, yeah, Eddie Goldman. Yeah, don't

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 1>don't don't believe, yeah that that's not no one. That's

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>not no one who's drafting in that room, right, And

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:43.319
<v Speaker 1>nothing against McShay, but if you're gonna do this, don't

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 1>pick the players that you would pick. Pick the players

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 1>you think because again, a Giant is not one of

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 1>my favorite players. I've mocked him a bunch to the Cowboys,

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 1>but he's not my favorite player, right. I do it

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>because of them. I don't do it because something with Yelden.

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>For me, you know, I'm not a big yelled in

0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Family's a third round player to me, but sixty, Yeah,

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>that was some mistake on mcshay's park. Okay, ken I

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 1>mentioned o booie, he might fall into this category. This

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 1>is from David Chapman. Who do you think could be

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:09.320
<v Speaker 1>this year? Is Bruce Carter or Saun Lee somebody injury

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:13.320
<v Speaker 1>prone but has first round talent? Yeah, I think that's yeah, exactly,

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 1>he's And it's it's kind of ironic because watching you know,

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 1>he came back for a senior year at A and M,

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>a player that got hurt in his very last game

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:24.840
<v Speaker 1>and he took out a big insurance settlement. Sure he

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 1>almost played. Watching his senior year, he almost played like

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>he's trying not to get hurt. He did. He did

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>look a little soft, yeah, play a little conservative, and

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 1>so it's ironic that he got hurt in that final game.

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we talked about a top ten talent defeat

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>or outstanding. There's a lot of base traits that you

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>have there that, um, you know, you can develop a

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 1>player that's seen time at left tackle, right tackle, he's

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>seen time inside a guard. So definitely in the late

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:51.240
<v Speaker 1>first round, maybe even in that early second round, depending

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>on where he goes. He's gonna be somewhere, probably at

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:55.839
<v Speaker 1>top forty mix. I think a lot of scouts like him,

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.760
<v Speaker 1>coaches like him. Just wonder really what some general managers

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>are thinking about that. This tackle class is funny. Yeah,

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it's just there's not many options you know, later in

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.840
<v Speaker 1>this draft, but the first second rounds, you know, guys

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>like Pete and Clemmings and Flowers, Humphreys, Collins. Yeah, there's

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 1>so many different opinions on these players. It really makes

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 1>it fun that you know which one's gonna go first,

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:21.720
<v Speaker 1>which one's gonna pan out. The Cowboys selection at twenty

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 1>seven can have some value just because of the fifth

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>year thing that David, I'd love to argue about it,

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:29.839
<v Speaker 1>but also to some of those offensive linemen that you're

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>talking about, Aboue, Clemmings, Flowers, Pete, if he's somehouse stretches

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 1>that far, maybe somebody wants to get back in there

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and grab one of those guys. And we don't. Last year,

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 1>the first three tackles drafted were better than any of

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>these guys with you, Greg Robinson, Jake Matthews, Taylor of one,

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:49.919
<v Speaker 1>we don't have that top ten no brainer tackle this year,

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>but you know there are some options in that late

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>first So you're you're actually right about the value of

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven. Okay, knt one mord before we go to break. Sure, Yeah,

0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 1>this is from Kyle. This falls into what y'all are

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>just talking about. What's the early round You think this

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>team would consider drafting a swing tackle or future right tackle.

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>You can't roll it out of twenty seven? Yeah, you know,

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:08.879
<v Speaker 1>you really can't, depending on how the board plays out.

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Who's there for you? And hey, what do you think

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>about that? You know, I'm thinking I like what you're

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:18.840
<v Speaker 1>saying because I see a guy like mid round Chaz

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Green's Chaz Green, Florida. Chaz Green played left tackle, played

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 1>right tackle. You said it. He's made a ton of

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 1>start you did you're in your book. We talked about

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>him as well in our magazine. Chaz Green is one

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>of those guys who think third fourth round could play

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>both sides, you know, and it's very productive. And I

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>gave him a fifth because the durability scares me. He's

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:42.359
<v Speaker 1>been dinged up his entire career, missed all the time.

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Should be surprised to be wenting the fourth though. No,

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't no, because talent wise, I mean he's he's

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 1>up there. He's a top one hundred guy for any

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 1>talent wise. Yeah, but the only thing said kind of

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 1>dings him is a durability. So Chaz Green talent wise,

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 1>swing tackle somewhere third fourth round, right, Yeah, I think

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>that could that could be a good value. I've been

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.480
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<v Speaker 1>gonna be something. Now, well, we're gonna have all the

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<v Speaker 1>war room cam stuff. We're gonna have everything up. Like

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.240
<v Speaker 1>I say, all right, you know Kent and Laurence sokel

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:19.720
<v Speaker 1>and and Doug us all our guys that do stuff

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 1>for us, that next to next door to us in

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the in the studios here. I mean, we're gonna make

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 1>sure it's taken care of. And and then you got

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 1>analysis from from Dane myself, Bill Jones, big time draft

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:34.919
<v Speaker 1>study guy, Kevin Turner, Jeff Cabinot from one oh five three.

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Both those guys, as you will know if you follow

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:39.240
<v Speaker 1>me on Twitter, are always involved with me and watching

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 1>these players. So there's gonna be a lot of guys

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:45.399
<v Speaker 1>who have Uh, knowledge about these players and obviously there'll

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 1>be a Cowboys theme. But they'll be covering every pick,

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 1>every pick, you know it all have an opinion on

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 1>every pick exactly. I will, one way or another have

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 1>an opinion on every pick. We'll try and get you

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>ready on that. We're excited though again to to have

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to do that, uh, Thursday, Friday and Saturday

0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 1>for the and the fun part about it, it's instant

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:07.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's instant reaction. It's not um, you

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>know what we feel the next day when we've had

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>a chance to let it, you know, simmer a little bit.

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Instant reaction what we think. So that'll be fun. Well,

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:15.959
<v Speaker 1>I always always, I'm always when they watched the draft

0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:17.920
<v Speaker 1>shows on TV and stuff, and they always go and

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:20.879
<v Speaker 1>interview somebody. Yeah, I'm always like, I don't care, right,

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I just want to know about that. Who's gonna be

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:23.919
<v Speaker 1>the next pick? I don't want to miss any picks,

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.360
<v Speaker 1>don't there's nothing to talk about? Yeah, you know, but

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>well we'll have we'll have coaches and guests and stuff

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 1>like that too, So we'll we'll make it a lot

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 1>of fun and keep it very informative. So we also

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:35.359
<v Speaker 1>should we should mention we're gonna have our pick on

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the show. Yeah, So whoever we pick in the first

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>round is gonna call in. We're gonna be able to

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>talk to that player, and it's gonna be really really cool. Yeah,

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>exclusive and all that good stuff. So all the bells

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:47.400
<v Speaker 1>and whils what Dane grill that that player, Dane will

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>be all right? Well that game, that game at Alabama

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:52.360
<v Speaker 1>that time, and you were all right, well, uh I

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 1>promised you after the break that we were going to

0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 1>take some of your calls. Uh So eight eight eight

0:44:57.320 --> 0:44:59.720
<v Speaker 1>eight five five two two nine seven, I'm getting pretty

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 1>good at that phone number. Can't go ahead, and let's

0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 1>go to the first one. Sure, let's go out Westel

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 1>Passo Dominic, You're on the Draft Show. Hello, guys. My

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 1>question is are there any fullbacks worthy of a draft pick?

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 1>And do you think the Cowboys a possibly take one?

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 1>And then what round? There's a few in this draft? Yeah?

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Alabama kid, right, Justin Fowler? Yeah, yeah, player like Jim

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 1>is a senior bawl a little bit. Yeah, he hits you. Yeah,

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 1>he's not afraid to hit and get physical, and he's

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.359
<v Speaker 1>a player that has some carries in his background, caught

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 1>some passes, so he can be a little bit more

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 1>than just a blocking guy. But he does like the block.

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 1>He does like contact, and so you love to see it. Uh.

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 1>You know a player that's only five eleven but at

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty five pounds. Yeah, when he goes downhill,

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:43.799
<v Speaker 1>he gets moving, he can clear some run lanes. So

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 1>he's the best fullback in this draft, isn't he? I

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:48.920
<v Speaker 1>would say so? I think you know in my book,

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I combine fullbacks in each backs. Sure, so I have

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Dominic Brown in there, Carlos Williams, Jimmy Mundine, which is

0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 1>another North Texas kid. But in terms of pure fullbacks,

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:02.840
<v Speaker 1>there's the top guy this year. Fifth sixth round. Probably

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 1>some team will get a good player. Yeah, I think

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:07.799
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys. It's funny how you know they went out

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 1>in free agency and start signing fullbacks and stuff like that.

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 1>So I think they'll probably stay away from that position.

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:16.759
<v Speaker 1>But that was a good report on the Alabama kid. Okay, Kip, Yeah,

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:20.879
<v Speaker 1>Nick and Corpus Christi. Nick, you're on the Draft show. Hey,

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:23.839
<v Speaker 1>good morning, guys. I'm kind of kind of a wild one.

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of figguredbacks onto that a guy that was

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 1>on a little bit earlier, I'd like to take a

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 1>three way deal with the Jets, the Vikings, and the Cowboys. Okay, Cowboys.

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:41.160
<v Speaker 1>The Cowboys would get Peterson and the Jets number four,

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 1>The Vikings would get twenty seven, Cowboys twenty seven and

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys sixty and des Bryant, and then of course the

0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Jets would get Minnesota eleventh and they're forty five. What

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>do you think about that? That would set us up

0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 1>next year super Bowl, not this year. I think Tony

0:46:57.400 --> 0:47:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Romo could really make a good receiver of the top

0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>receiver this year. And I think Jerry would make a

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 1>big splash. Wow, that's Jerry's interested in drafting and building

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:11.000
<v Speaker 1>his team. The big splash. I think that everybody talks

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.320
<v Speaker 1>about that. But that would be the biggest trade. And

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:16.479
<v Speaker 1>yeah since herschel Walker. You know, it's a three way team.

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 1>It's that's like NBA life in baseball. Yeah, yeah, you

0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>rarely see that in the NFL, but rarely do you

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:26.319
<v Speaker 1>see two more key players like Adrian Peterson Brian being

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 1>part of the same deal. Again, going back to the

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:31.320
<v Speaker 1>out of the box thinking, you know, kudos because that. Yeah,

0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the first time I've heard of that. But uh yeah,

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you if if you have a chance to

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:38.279
<v Speaker 1>get Adrian Peterson. You know, I'm not including does Brian

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 1>as part of that. I think you try to get

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 1>that deal done exclusively from a player like Dez Bryant.

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 1>But it's creative. I'll give him that. You know, I

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:50.080
<v Speaker 1>haven't heard much about Minnesota moving this player and we're

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:53.279
<v Speaker 1>getting close to the We're getting close, and you know,

0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I felt like that if Dallas was going to get involved.

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Stephen Jones said the other day that he wasn't. You know, man, now,

0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe he trade next year pick, next year's one

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:02.840
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. I mean, you say, I'm not

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:05.600
<v Speaker 1>training picks now, but you know what keeps him from

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:08.280
<v Speaker 1>trading a future pick. I think the further we go along,

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:09.879
<v Speaker 1>the closer we get to the draft and you don't

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:13.319
<v Speaker 1>have the opportunity to negotiate a deal with Peterson, I

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 1>think the Peterson deal dies well. And that's the thing

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:19.239
<v Speaker 1>is that it comes down to are the Vikings willing

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 1>to play ball? And that's what it comes down too,

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 1>And so far it doesn't sound like they want to

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 1>play ball. They don't want to play ball at all.

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 1>They don't, they really especially and if they're going to

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 1>deal them, I don't think they want to deal them

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:30.880
<v Speaker 1>within the conference. And I think that's something that you know,

0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 1>is is something that is would halt the trade gone

0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:38.520
<v Speaker 1>very quiet. That's something that gets gone very quiet. You know,

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:41.640
<v Speaker 1>even the big time guys that you visit with, that

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:44.319
<v Speaker 1>we both visit with, that cover this stuff. You know

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 1>that the scoop guys, it's gone quiet in their circles too.

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:49.800
<v Speaker 1>And if a deal does not happen on draft weekend

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:52.760
<v Speaker 1>or on Thursday. If the deal does not happen Thursday,

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I think you can pretty much forget about unless it's

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:58.600
<v Speaker 1>for next year's one. Yeah, then then then you're talking

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 1>about it. But on draft weekend, weekend, draft weekend altogether, yeah,

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that's when you can. Cowboys are going to

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 1>invest a pick in a running back, and I think

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:10.360
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be the running back that Okay, Kip Trey

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:15.879
<v Speaker 1>and Georgetown, Texas, you're on the Draft show, Trey, Hey, thanks, Hey, thanks?

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh call guys, my favorite player in his draft is

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 1>an organ right, there is there any chance that he

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:29.040
<v Speaker 1>can have a special career at a free taking and

0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I have a second question. Uh there a maybe a

0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Portman's Zach Martin and the later h draft And thanks, okay,

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:42.239
<v Speaker 1>thank you. We're talking about the injuries and some of

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.200
<v Speaker 1>these players I failed to mention him. Yeah, you know

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:49.520
<v Speaker 1>guys that you feel horrible about because they get injured

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:51.719
<v Speaker 1>late in the season. They had a terrific career and

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:56.760
<v Speaker 1>ere Olmu his resume is outstanding. What he did at Oregon,

0:49:57.280 --> 0:50:01.280
<v Speaker 1>productive three year starter, an All American, gets hurt in practice,

0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:04.680
<v Speaker 1>really messes up that knee. Sure, um leading up to

0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 1>the Rose Bowl. So there, there's there's concerned there. Um. Now,

0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:11.839
<v Speaker 1>where will he come off the board. That's a good

0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:14.840
<v Speaker 1>question because there will be some teams that might not

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:17.240
<v Speaker 1>even have him on the board altogether because of that knee.

0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:19.800
<v Speaker 1>It's it was it was significant. Yeah, it wasn't a

0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 1>simple terror. There's more to it, right, um, And that

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:25.759
<v Speaker 1>really clouds his draft value. So before we even talk

0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 1>about is it can be a corner of free safety,

0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:30.080
<v Speaker 1>we have to talk about can even play? Can you

0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:32.360
<v Speaker 1>get on the field. You hate to talk about that

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 1>with a player like this because he's such a good

0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 1>It's reality. It is, it's reality. It's what they It's

0:50:36.239 --> 0:50:38.760
<v Speaker 1>what they're dealing with in draft rooms all across the country.

0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Right now. A player that's very talented but hurt, the

0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:44.359
<v Speaker 1>top fifty player in this draft, who probably falls out

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:46.680
<v Speaker 1>of the top one hundred and then somewhere on Day

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:49.759
<v Speaker 1>three probably gets drafted. A team takes a chance, but

0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:52.080
<v Speaker 1>they have to feel comfortable with that knee, which not

0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:55.000
<v Speaker 1>every team's gonna feel comfortable with. Right. So, okay, hey,

0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to talk something about Melvin Gordon O a

0:50:57.080 --> 0:51:00.279
<v Speaker 1>little bit and yeah, let's let's talk about Melvin Gore. Yeah,

0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about because we talk about these running backs, right,

0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and we talk about Okay, forget Gurley, we love him,

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:08.200
<v Speaker 1>but he's not gonna be there, right, Um, So, barring

0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:11.120
<v Speaker 1>a trade up, Melvin Gordon, it's realistic that he could

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:13.920
<v Speaker 1>be there at twenty seven now realistic. Good chance he

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:16.560
<v Speaker 1>could be taken before, but it's realistic he could be there.

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I like Coleman, right, you like Melvin Gordon. So you're

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you you want to challenge me on why you would

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:27.280
<v Speaker 1>why you should take Gordon over twenty seven. Melvin Gordon

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Tevin Coleman are both there? Are you taking Coleman? Oh?

0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I am I love I love the player because I

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:37.760
<v Speaker 1>think he could do more. I mean, then I'm basing

0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Mark Murray Moll. I'll tell you what. There's people that

0:51:40.560 --> 0:51:44.279
<v Speaker 1>might even throw Duke Johnson in that conversation as well. Sure,

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:48.440
<v Speaker 1>but I think that just just my gut, just my gut,

0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that this scouting staff and the rest of

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the league probably see it the way you do. I

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 1>think they probably see Melvin Gordon first, and then everybody,

0:51:57.560 --> 0:52:01.640
<v Speaker 1>well not Melvin Gurley first, and then now Gordon the

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:05.080
<v Speaker 1>next guy. And then tell me who between Duke Johnson,

0:52:05.400 --> 0:52:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Coleman and those guys and those kind of guys. While

0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:12.399
<v Speaker 1>I do think Gordon has some special traits, I am

0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:15.440
<v Speaker 1>with you when you talk about having the all around

0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:19.080
<v Speaker 1>skill set and Gordon not really. He just wasn't asked

0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:21.160
<v Speaker 1>to do that at Wisconsin. He wasn't asked to pass

0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:23.400
<v Speaker 1>protect a whole lot, wasn't asked to be a receiver

0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:25.279
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot. He does have some drops, but he

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:27.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't given that opportunity. So it's not that he can't

0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:29.920
<v Speaker 1>do it. He's just unproven in some of those areas.

0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:32.279
<v Speaker 1>And so so you're selling me on the fact that

0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:35.000
<v Speaker 1>he's a better pass blocker than he then the film

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:37.560
<v Speaker 1>has shown, right because I think he wasn't asked to

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:39.480
<v Speaker 1>do it a lot. And and so I think you

0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:41.839
<v Speaker 1>have I mean, Gordon is a player that I mean,

0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:46.239
<v Speaker 1>he's he's two twenty. I mean he's right, he joked up. No, no, absolutely,

0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think you have some. I think he's a

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:50.400
<v Speaker 1>competitive kid. I think you can work with him in

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:53.279
<v Speaker 1>pass protection to get better. Um. But I'm with you

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:56.640
<v Speaker 1>in terms of Coleman's more in that DeMarco Murray role

0:52:56.640 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 1>where he's still around it. Yeah. Um, with Gordon, I

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 1>see more of a home run threat. I think Coleman

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:05.279
<v Speaker 1>might have the better forty. Yeah. Somebody got on me

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:07.000
<v Speaker 1>about that that I didn't called it. I didn't call

0:53:07.080 --> 0:53:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Gordon a home run back. I saw him get fetched

0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times. Oh yeah. Jalen Collins coming from

0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:13.759
<v Speaker 1>behind in that LSU game this season opener last year.

0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:17.359
<v Speaker 1>But his acceleration is elite to me, Okay, I mean

0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:20.840
<v Speaker 1>he zero to sixty is outstanding. He goes and so

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:24.480
<v Speaker 1>he can be caught from behind, but that initial acceleration

0:53:24.560 --> 0:53:26.919
<v Speaker 1>is out so you're six seven yards into the hall

0:53:27.000 --> 0:53:29.480
<v Speaker 1>before you exactly. And that's a big reason why Gordon

0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:32.440
<v Speaker 1>average seven and a half yards of carry because before

0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:34.640
<v Speaker 1>guys can react to what he's doing. We talked about

0:53:34.719 --> 0:53:37.359
<v Speaker 1>with Abdullah not only being a quick with his feet

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:39.600
<v Speaker 1>in his lower body, but also being quick thinker in

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:42.680
<v Speaker 1>terms of reading his blocks and reacting quickly. With Gordon,

0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:44.840
<v Speaker 1>there are a few. He likes to bounce it outside

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 1>a little too much, doesn't like to live inside the

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:50.320
<v Speaker 1>tackles like Coleman does. But with Gordon, he's so quick

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<v Speaker 1>thinking and reacting that he can get away with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think you see some Jamal Charles there,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why I think he's gonna end up in

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<v Speaker 1>that first round. Gordon Gregory Jones twenty seven, three different positions, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all all, and I'm not I can't. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>defensive end for you that's slid down the board that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably got a first round grade. Right. I gave you

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<v Speaker 1>the second best running back right there, who's probably got

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<v Speaker 1>a first round grade. Depending on what you think about Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>he could be a one or two, right. But I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to make it difficult because I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson's gone and I and the Waynes is gone. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a good problem to have. But it's a problem

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<v Speaker 1>because you have three good players here right on my board,

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<v Speaker 1>I have Gregory ranked the highest. Okay, So as long

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<v Speaker 1>as I feel comfortable with what's going on there, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's got to be the pick because he's He's

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<v Speaker 1>an impact pass rusher with a high ceiling and a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that I rank as a top player on my board.

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<v Speaker 1>For them probably comes down the garlier Gordon, I'm sorry,

0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Gordon or Gregory? Yeah, you know that. Did they go

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<v Speaker 1>to the pass rusher with the high upside, the running

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<v Speaker 1>back where I think you have a little more idea

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<v Speaker 1>of what you're getting. That's a good question. Where do

0:55:04.760 --> 0:55:06.239
<v Speaker 1>you think they would go? Well, let's see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they would probably there's a side of me

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<v Speaker 1>that believes they would. Draft. Now, let's let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what could happen in rounds two and three? Sure, could

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I get it in the second round? Could I get

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<v Speaker 1>a runner? Can Can you tell me? Because I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the corner or I'm looking at the defensive end right,

0:55:23.040 --> 0:55:26.280
<v Speaker 1>because I'm thinking maybe I could use sixty to get

0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:29.719
<v Speaker 1>to get to Duke Johnson. Right, I'm thinking, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think this this group here is thinking similar. They hit

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<v Speaker 1>a home run with DeMarco Murray and round right. I

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:38.279
<v Speaker 1>think they think they can do that again. So I

0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:40.160
<v Speaker 1>think you're right. If they feel they can get a

0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Duke Johnson at sixty, then they're gonna go with the

0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:46.520
<v Speaker 1>defensive end. Yeah, right and something like that. Yeah, if

0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:49.040
<v Speaker 1>they have to even abdula, I mean they can exactly.

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:52.000
<v Speaker 1>They'll have options at running back at sixty. So better

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<v Speaker 1>options at running back at sixty than say, defensive end

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<v Speaker 1>at sixty. As because I'm trying to get you, Frank Clark,

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:03.520
<v Speaker 1>it's at at at you know, it's what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do for you, right, But you have a Gregory

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:08.400
<v Speaker 1>on the board in front of you. Gregory might have

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<v Speaker 1>the highest grade. I think you're right about that. I agree,

0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and I think they would. I think they is as

0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:16.680
<v Speaker 1>crazy as this would sound, even with the corner need too,

0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I think they would take the impact. I think Marinelli.

0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:23.759
<v Speaker 1>I think Marinelli would step up at this point and

0:56:23.880 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 1>he would say, okay, get me that defensive end. Yeah,

0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:29.120
<v Speaker 1>And we talked about we didn't really know, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the hardiest suspension. We think it's gonna be reduced maybe

0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:36.400
<v Speaker 1>six games. Yeah, somewhere. Okay, So so you're only you know,

0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:39.359
<v Speaker 1>but you're still gonna need somebody that. I mean, they

0:56:39.360 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 1>we're going into plan and you're right on a lot

0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of boards. Gregory's a higher guy. So I think they

0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>would go. I think that they would go with Gregory

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the Husker pass rusher. I think so. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you just can't. Why would that scare the hell out

0:56:54.480 --> 0:56:56.080
<v Speaker 1>of me? Oh, it would scare the hell out of

0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:59.640
<v Speaker 1>me too, because you oh, you could say, hell, you know,

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 1>go ahead. But there's a reason that he's there at

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven. There's a reason he's a top ten talent

0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna be there for you at twenty seven.

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Off the field stuff, yeah, and again, this stuff goes

0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:12.200
<v Speaker 1>back to high school. This stuff goes back. You know,

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:14.840
<v Speaker 1>he had a full rider perdue that fell through because

0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of some of his issues that he just kind of

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 1>he let his priorities get away from him, goes to Juco,

0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:22.960
<v Speaker 1>goes to Nebraska, and I've said up before, you know,

0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys fans have heard me say this. He failed two

0:57:25.800 --> 0:57:28.000
<v Speaker 1>drug tests that Nebraska and it got to the point

0:57:28.040 --> 0:57:31.840
<v Speaker 1>they stopped testing him. They the coaches said, stop testing him.

0:57:32.080 --> 0:57:34.760
<v Speaker 1>He's not going to pass. We need him on the field.

0:57:35.040 --> 0:57:38.480
<v Speaker 1>We cannot afford to lose him. So there's red flags

0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:40.360
<v Speaker 1>all over. There were some games where he was very

0:57:40.440 --> 0:57:43.520
<v Speaker 1>much this sure, yeah, and I think with Gordon, you

0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 1>gotta you know, Gordon had some good There are some

0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:49.560
<v Speaker 1>scouts out there who legitimately question his toughness because he

0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:51.800
<v Speaker 1>would leave the leave the field because of a hangnail.

0:57:51.840 --> 0:57:53.760
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that's something that you can't have in the

0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:56.080
<v Speaker 1>NFL at the defensive end position. And for a player

0:57:56.120 --> 0:57:59.240
<v Speaker 1>that's in that two thirty two thirty five range. Yeah,

0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:01.280
<v Speaker 1>the weight is a question mark, is something that can

0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:04.240
<v Speaker 1>he keep putting on weight? And I mean listen to

0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:06.400
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about all these concerns. Oh yeah, they drafted

0:58:06.400 --> 0:58:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a player here they couldn't keep weight, Chante Carver. They

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:11.800
<v Speaker 1>drafted a player here that never could Ariz, never could

0:58:11.800 --> 0:58:13.840
<v Speaker 1>put on weight, right, And it's it's easy to say

0:58:13.840 --> 0:58:15.680
<v Speaker 1>some of these guys he's six five to thirty, he'll

0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:17.560
<v Speaker 1>put on the weight. Yeah, look at their risks, look

0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:20.320
<v Speaker 1>at their ankles, right, that show he's a lean guy exactly.

0:58:20.920 --> 0:58:22.760
<v Speaker 1>But I still think they would take the guy, even

0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:26.440
<v Speaker 1>even with Jones and Gordon on the board. I agree

0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:29.040
<v Speaker 1>that's scary, and it is scary. But if he's there

0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:31.040
<v Speaker 1>at twenty seven, we're on the same page. I think

0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:33.760
<v Speaker 1>this group might take him. Yeah, that's crazy. All right,

0:58:33.760 --> 0:58:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Well listen, that is all the time that we have

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