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Speaker 1: And it's a coin flip, Mark, why not? I'll say

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Speaker 1: weeker team, and I thought that that that win against

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, although they caught the Chiefs at the right time, obviously,

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Speaker 1: that was a really spirited effort by their defense especially,

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Speaker 1: and maybe some other teams would have quit after what

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Speaker 1: happened around the quarterback. So I'm not saying Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: now should be back in the Coach of the Year consideration,

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Speaker 1: but I'm saying they maybe got past that and survived,

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Speaker 1: and they deserve some credit for that because that was

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Speaker 1: pretty grizzly for a couple of weeks. Yeah, non balanced there,

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Speaker 1: six and five. If someone had told us that at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, we would have been very

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Speaker 1: surprised that they were able to win six games and

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Speaker 1: whatever fashion that they did it. So they've overachieved. And

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Speaker 1: I think Tyrod Taylor's a mobile quarterback who could give

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Speaker 1: the Patriots defense a little bit of problems. But it's

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Speaker 1: still hard to imagine this Bills off. This Bills defense,

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Speaker 1: which is good but not great, really slowing down a

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Speaker 1: Patriots attack, which is kind of firing on all cylinders,

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Speaker 1: even though you know they lost Marty B now for

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Speaker 1: the season, Chris Hogan hasn't played in weeks and he's

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Speaker 1: not expected doesn't and it kind of doesn't matter that

448
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Speaker 1: Marty B like happy ending storyline, very happy. Like I

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Speaker 1: didn't I didn't really want to have to deal with

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Speaker 1: Marty B this year. You were quite annoying media knight

451
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Speaker 1: like saying, oh, it's so great to be back at

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Meanwhile, everybody, everybody back in Green Green

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Speaker 1: Bay agrees that he quit on him. Anyway, Poor Marty

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Speaker 1: Booker never gets thought of anymore as Marty B. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these are two teams, the Bills, if nothing else, are

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Speaker 1: careful and they turned turned. They create some turnovers. And

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Speaker 1: that's how the Patriots have been winning so easily a

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Speaker 1: lot lately, as they're dominating in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 1: picking off opposing quarterbacks are coming up with forced fumbles,

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Speaker 1: and Tyrod is careful to a fault, maybe like he's

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Speaker 1: a much he's a more athletic or a little more

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Speaker 1: athletic Alex Smith in some ways good and bad. Well.

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Speaker 1: One of the criticisms of Tyrod before he got bench

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Speaker 1: was that you can't play come from behind football. With

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, you have to have a lead to play

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Speaker 1: with him. And the Patriots are gonna score twenty five

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Speaker 1: to thirty five points because that's what they do every week.

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Speaker 1: Can Tyrod Taylor keep up in a shootout? I doubt it.

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Speaker 1: On offense, um Lashawn McCoy obviously, he's still he still

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Speaker 1: can make plays. But the wide receiver group they're kind

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Speaker 1: of in a tough spot there too, because Kelvin Benjamin

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Speaker 1: it's a torn meniscus. Uh. McDermott is kind of shady

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Speaker 1: about how he he tries to um what he tells

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Speaker 1: the reporters about how much time a guy can miss

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Speaker 1: his day to day, but that could be week to

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Speaker 1: week potentially. Za Jones has shown a little bit. Remember

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Speaker 1: how bad he Michael Jackson at the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, Michael Jackson? Oh yeah, that was Did you

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Speaker 1: see that play where he got up off the ground

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Speaker 1: just like, what did I miss? Did he changed his

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Speaker 1: name Smith? Criminal? Yeah? Oh, he did a smooth criminal move.

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Speaker 1: It was incredible. It was totally got trick photography and okay,

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Speaker 1: it was one of the most amazing What are you

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Speaker 1: talking about, Michael Jackson? Was a famous pop star. I

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Speaker 1: think I think millennials know who Michael Jack. That isn't

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Speaker 1: just the thirty fifth year anniversary of Thriller coming out? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well that was a long time ago. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you mean blankets dad? Um? Great? Hey, Greg, before we

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Speaker 1: move on, any concerns about your forty year old quarterback

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Speaker 1: having an achilles injury? Yeah, you going any moment. I'm concerned.

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Speaker 1: That's not even a real injury. He's missed practice. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he would skip practice for real question though,

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Speaker 1: real question. He's missed those Wednesday practice and had some

494
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: lingering injuries pretty often over the last few years and

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00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 1: played well through it, So I'm not I'm not too concerned.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you had it last year last week and

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Speaker 1: through four touchdowns and looked great. I'm a little marking

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Speaker 1: not concerned. But you got you even tweeting out how

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Speaker 1: great the Patriots it has been show you know, the

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Speaker 1: their stats are great in terms of points per game.

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Speaker 1: But Belichick is still trying to figure out what this

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Speaker 1: defense is going to be going in the playoffs. He's

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Speaker 1: changing his lineups, he changing his players like every week.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of still testing out who are the guys

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Speaker 1: that are gonna stick, they haven't really come up with.

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Speaker 1: Here's why I'm not concerned. It's that they usually figured

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Speaker 1: out and say the fact that they haven't allowed more

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Speaker 1: than seventeen points since like week five or something. But

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Speaker 1: they're scoring such a bundle of points and unless someone's

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Speaker 1: going to go in there and rain down on them,

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Speaker 1: it's just not a concern. Their defense is fine. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right, Before we move on, Mark, I just want

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Speaker 1: to say thank you. You've been extremely appropriate so far

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Speaker 1: in this episode. Well, you're the one that I am

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Speaker 1: I would be much more concerned with. I think that

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Speaker 1: the other two gentlemen in the room share my concern,

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Speaker 1: and you've been outstanding so far with your appropriateness. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was strange that you know, they sent this,

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Speaker 1: you know, company wide email out that you all have

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Speaker 1: to sign up for these uh sessions. But Dan, for

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Speaker 1: some reason, it came with that like urgent open bag

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Speaker 1: when it was exclamation read exclamation points. Perhaps that's your

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Speaker 1: opinion of me, but all I could say is, as

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Speaker 1: we're going through the slide show, Mark just kept on

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Speaker 1: popping in my head. That's all all this is. This

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Speaker 1: is blasphemy let's move on to San Francisco. Forty Niners.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one in ten against the three and eight

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Speaker 1: Bears team who cares right, Well, there's a little juice here.

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Speaker 1: And why is that, Mark Sessler? That is because even

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Speaker 1: though you are one in ten, your general manager, John

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Speaker 1: Lynch pulled off a trade just before November kicked off

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Speaker 1: for Jimmy Garoppolo, the backup quarterback of Tom Brady. And now,

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Speaker 1: after keeping him in the shadows, you unveil him in

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Speaker 1: week thirteen. And if you're a Niners fan, you have hope,

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Speaker 1: you have something to look forward to, something, some reason

536
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Speaker 1: to watch a game that otherwise you'd be out in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco on the town, drinking beers, eating Chinese food.

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Speaker 1: You don't need to do that. Now you can sit

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Speaker 1: down and watch this game. Chinese great Chinese food in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. My wrong, No, no, no, for heaven. But

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Speaker 1: the seafood they do, they are not for the China.

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Speaker 1: There is literally a China town inside of San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you. I'm sure they do a nice job,

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Speaker 1: really doing a nice job. We went to San Francisco

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Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl for Super Bowl fifty and um,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do like a blanket statement, but

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Speaker 1: some of the scariest vagrants I've ever seen. I've lived

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Speaker 1: in Boston, I lived in New York, I live in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles currently. I don't know what's going on up

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco with the vagrant population, but something's I

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Speaker 1: think you're gonna get them tweets because San Francisco offers

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Speaker 1: a little bit more. It is lovely. But I think

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Speaker 1: the answer to your question are drug Chinese. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't need that appropriate meeting to know that. I

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Speaker 1: can't talk about some of the activities. And I saw

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Speaker 1: those vagrants doing interesting interesting. Anyway, back to the game,

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Speaker 1: So Garoppolo makes the start greg the Bears there they

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Speaker 1: have a defense, right so and garoppolos on the road,

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00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: which is tough, and he doesn't have a lot of weapons.

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Speaker 1: Uh So this could be a tough spot for It

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00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: would have been tough for a month and a half

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Speaker 1: ago when the Bears were healthier. In watching them last week,

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Speaker 1: I know they're going again Philadelphia, but just in general,

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Speaker 1: the minute that Leonard Floyd went out for the season,

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Speaker 1: I thought that really changed them as a as a

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Speaker 1: pass rush group because when you had him and Hicks,

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Speaker 1: who is just playing outstanding. I mean, if he was

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Speaker 1: on a good team, he might be a defensive Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year Canada Akeem Hicks. They don't really have

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Speaker 1: enough going on. It's not a good secondary and now

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Speaker 1: you're not really getting much pressure. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: good matchup for Garoppolo. I do too. I I agree

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Speaker 1: with you that the Bears really miss Leonard Floyd Pernell.

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Speaker 1: McPhee is out there trying a d percent, but he's

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Speaker 1: playing on one leg. It seems like they don't have

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Speaker 1: the pass rush. I don't think so. And I think

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Speaker 1: you're seeing here Jimmy Garoppolo, who the Patriots were convinced

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a franchise quarterback. You could tell

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Speaker 1: by the way Belichick talked about him and tried to

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Speaker 1: hoard him. The forty Niners are already convinced. They've said

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Speaker 1: he's the future. We think he's a franchise quarterback. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna find out if he is. We're gonna find out

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Speaker 1: pretty soon how good he looks. I I like what

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Speaker 1: actually San Francisco's defense did against Seattle for the first

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Speaker 1: three orders or so last week, and they are never

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00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: able to put it together for an entire game, but

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00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: they absolutely Stimey Russell Wilson for a full half. I

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Speaker 1: like what's happening with Jimmy g here. I like it

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Speaker 1: a lot. You want to know how much I like

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Speaker 1: how much. There's a one win team going on the

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Speaker 1: road into Chicago, and I'm gonna lock it up like

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Speaker 1: that walking up the fort on the road with Jimmy

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Speaker 1: g Baby. I mean, they've got the more experienced quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I guess not starts, but Travis Ki is not rushing,

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00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: shooting straight. Um. I came very close to doing the

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00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: same thing. Mark couldn't pull the trigger, but I respect

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Speaker 1: that you did. Thank you, um, Mark five and seven

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00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: and the picks, Greg, either seven and six or six

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Speaker 1: and seven. I have self sabotaged a few weeks. Try

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Speaker 1: and hopefully this wasn't another occurrence of that West one

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Speaker 1: in three I'm can't be right. Well, listen, check out

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Speaker 1: the lock it Up subreddit or they lock it up

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Speaker 1: Twitter handle. The Old Juice are at eight and four

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Speaker 1: in first place, but I've lost two of three, So Greg,

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Speaker 1: the windows open for you at six and six. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we can play this stuff. Well, you're in first place. No, no,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to talk over it's fun. Yeah that

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Speaker 1: was good. I like that. Yeah, we don't do second

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Speaker 1: place songs on this podcast. I must say the subreddit, guys,

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Speaker 1: come back to us. You know, sometimes I love the subreddit,

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Speaker 1: the around the NFL podcast subreddit, but sometimes, you know,

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Speaker 1: you pop in there and there's some criticism of the

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Speaker 1: show or of the individual members. Guys, It's not that easy,

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Speaker 1: is it, Because you're all in three they locked up

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Speaker 1: the Browns. I don't know. I don't know what they

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Speaker 1: were thinking. Same, That's what I'm saying. I don't if

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Speaker 1: I if I led them down that road, I apologize

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Speaker 1: to the subreddit. So anyway, get off the Schneide subreddit.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on the Tampa A fucking years four and seven,

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00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: uh could not hang with the Atlanta Falcons. So they're

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Speaker 1: they're done, they're cooked. We've forked him a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: They now travel to Green Bay to face the Packers,

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Speaker 1: who lost in you know, let's face a pretty crushing

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00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: fashion on Sunday night football for a game they really

625
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: played well in uh West, but it wasn't enough. No,

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00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't enough. We saw encouraging signs from Brett Hunley.

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Speaker 1: And this is a big game for the Packers because

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00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is due to return to practice, he's eligible

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Speaker 1: to return to practice, and Clay Matthews is already regretting

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Speaker 1: that he was placed on I R. Which is interesting

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Speaker 1: to me. That move could really come back to haunt

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Speaker 1: them if Aaron Rodgers was healthy. What's to stop another

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Speaker 1: relaxed statement or run the table states, Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Had they pulled off that Steelers game, and were they

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Speaker 1: sitting right now at six and five with this week's

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Speaker 1: game against Tampa Bay, which let's say that brings you

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Speaker 1: to seven five. Next week they have Cleveland eight and five,

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Speaker 1: then you would have Aaron Rodgers coming back at eight

639
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Speaker 1: and five. That loss killed them. Your five and six

640
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 1: they gotta climb out of. I think the reason they

641
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: put him on I R was to prevent them from

642
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Speaker 1: making a decision like this that would possibly put to

643
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: rush them in jeopardy that that that's supposed to be

644
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: the time needed to recover from a collar bone, and

645
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: maybe they would. They were almost like telling their future selves,

646
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, don't don't bring him back to early. It's

647
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: not that worth it. He has like nine screws or something,

648
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: and it's his right collar bone. It was a significant

649
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes there are different levels I guess to that type

650
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: of classical injury. This was a significant one. Remember Tony

651
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: Romo came back and heard it right away. I would

652
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: definitely be very, very apprehensive about bringing back Romo, but

653
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: I get the temptation. And then I saw him playing

654
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: video games with Conan O'Brien a couple weeks ago on

655
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: on the show, and he was very very smooth, looked

656
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: very fit, looked fun. This is the right week to

657
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: play the Bucks because I know they get Jamis Winston back,

658
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: which you know positive. Fitzpatrick was playing well enough. Certainly

659
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: they were moving the ball last week, but they lost

660
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: their two best offensive lineman for the season in the

661
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: same game last week. So now you're short too offensive lineman.

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00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: Their secondary's terrible Brett Honley and the Packers even should

663
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: be able to move the ball in this secondary. Let's

664
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: move on. The Indianapolis Colts um UH three and eight.

665
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: Coming off a loss in the Titans now travel to

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00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: Jacksonville to face the Jags, and Greg Jaguars came down

667
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: to earth a little bit in Arizona. They did not

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00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: handle the end of the well end of the game well.

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Speaker 1: Uh from play calling standpoint, from a quarter play a

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00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: quarterback play standpoint. But this is a nice little spot

671
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: for them to get healthy, right it should. The Colts have,

672
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, found a way to compete every week. And

673
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: you know the story here is can the Jaguars bounce

674
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: back and get into the playoffs. But the story I'm

675
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: watching in this game is my guy, Frank goreh forty

676
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: nine yards away from passing LaDainian Tomlinson as the fifth

677
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: leading rusher in NFL history. He also can pass your

678
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: Ome Bettis this week, I believe, with twenty eight yards

679
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: and not an easy game. Didn't necessarily do that because

680
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: the Colts could fall by and early and you're going

681
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: against the Jaguars defense. But yeah, he the way this

682
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: season's gone, that's about what he gets every week. By

683
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: the way, Greg wrote a great feature on Frank or

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00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: which you can I assume it had a that's right,

685
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: I would I was, I would have thrown it out there.

686
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: I would have getting there. I was getting there. NFL

687
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Speaker 1: dot Com slash Frank Gore. I think, I mean, it's

688
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: an amazing achievement. You were a guy who tours a

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Speaker 1: c L twice in college and was taken off medical

690
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: but you know medical basically evaluations from just about every

691
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: team Scott Scott mcluin, who drafted him, essentially said that

692
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: he went against his medical, medical advice and team's orders

693
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: to take him as early as the top of the

694
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Speaker 1: third round. Scott McCluin, who also retweeted Greg's frank, he did.

695
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: And by the way, you know how angry Greg is

696
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: with you right now why he was building. I like it.

697
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: I think that's much classier that someone else announces your

698
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: article than you would. By the way, go read my

699
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: own order. Otherwise I was staying out of lakes. I

700
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: saw Greg was built. It was like building it. It's

701
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: like you too, where the streets have no name where

702
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna somehow though he was gonna

703
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: not do it and hope someone else did it for him.

704
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: So I was trying to do it for I was

705
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: more building my my appreciation for Gore, which only grew

706
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: h from doing this piece and talking with him, like

707
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: it's it seems strange, not maybe not strange, but like

708
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: I was. I was legit inspired after listening to him

709
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: talk in terms of the way he loves the game

710
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: and the way he loves his job, and just listening

711
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: to people around him, I think he kind of inspires

712
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: them too, like he's he's a leader like that, and

713
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: that when you're looking for reasons, how does it? How

714
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: does a guy make it too to still rushing for

715
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: a thousand yards at thirty four years old? Like, that's

716
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: how you do it? Greg put in the work too.

717
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: That was you've been working on that for what two months? Well, yeah,

718
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: the best time to talk to him was August, So

719
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: it was kind of just sitting there for a while

720
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: and then we we're waiting for the right time to Yeah,

721
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: we should on the people. We wanted to do it

722
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: right before he possibly gets this, you know, Mark, which

723
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: really should help him in his Hall of Fame case,

724
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: which is getting into the into the top five. So

725
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: you know, we have to wait till mid November. I

726
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: was hoping the team would be a little better. But

727
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: he came through for you because if he breaks his

728
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: leg because he's like thirty four year old running back,

729
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: then your story gets banged. But so one more time,

730
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: the inconvenient truth. Even if he accomplishes nothing else. He

731
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: didn't spike your feature. No, and he's played for a

732
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: hundred and seven straight starts. I believe it is now

733
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: the next close The next closest is twenty seven by

734
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: Isaiah crow L Like that's it's incredible. What a difference.

735
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: That is. Fun thing. If you strained hard enough, you

736
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: can see one crack in this Jaguars defense. They have

737
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: almost consistently, week in and week out for the past month,

738
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: given up big play touchdowns to scat backs and tight ends.

739
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: So Marlon Mack and Jack Doyle are names to watch.

740
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: On the other hand, they should win this game by

741
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: forty Why are quick question that the Jaguars bordles over

742
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: the last month, it's averaging thirty eight passes per game.

743
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: Why is that a good formula? It's not. I mean,

744
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: you've got to get away from that because I think

745
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: teams are going above and beyond, and I think the

746
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: Chargers were the first ones to absolutely sell out to

747
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: stop for net like a comical almost like they're insulting

748
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: the Jaguars coaches and quarterback with how much they're like

749
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: loading the box and just one on one on the outside,

750
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: nine people in the box and it's almost like you

751
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: have to throw it moving on. The one nice thing

752
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: on this did you Dan see Chuck Bigano's Groundhog Day? Uh?

753
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: We did. We talked about on too at length. My apologies.

754
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: That still not his best one. Where do you go with?

755
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: You wrote this article a couple of years ago. They

756
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: can fire you, but they can't eat you. Oh, that's right,

757
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: that was excellent. They can fire you, but they can't

758
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: eat you. And that's true. That is true. I mean, well,

759
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: it's not true in some cultures. They have ever heard

760
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: of the Donner Party, which was not a culture but

761
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: a a a disaster averted by eating human beings, failed

762
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: cross country trip. Yes, cannibalism is sadly a thing. It's

763
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: a real thing. But they're not going to eat an

764
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: NFL head coach. Chuck's right on that one. Probably not

765
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: not in today's times. The Denver Broncos Steak three and eight.

766
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: They put in Paxton Lynch hoping to get a spark.

767
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: He stunk and then he heard his ankle. And now

768
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: they're going back to Greg's boy simme and somebody get

769
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: excited about it. Won't be me. They traveled to Miami

770
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: to face the Dobbins, who's steak five games in a row? Uh? Mark,

771
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: give me thirty seconds or whatever on this. I mean,

772
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: I hadn't found out that you're gonna throw this to me.

773
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: I just I issued a quick statement, which I'll read

774
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: right now, to anyone attempting to even ponder thinking about

775
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: watching this games, I would offer this plea. Instead of

776
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: observing this hideous excuse of a game, why not spend

777
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: time with a young person, mentoring them in the skill

778
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: that's important to their development, or perhaps taking them to

779
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: a muse him to learn about Earth history. If you

780
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: are a parent, I ask you to turn off the

781
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: television and logs some focused, one on one time with

782
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: your own offspring. If you do not have a child,

783
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: think about volunteering at your local boys or girls club

784
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: to help a less fortunate youth feel supported in this world.

785
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: Skip this game feels like some certainly conscious stuff going

786
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: on here, almost like you know, Mark's telling himself this. No,

787
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm telling anyone who is planning to watch this game.

788
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: Moving right along the Kansas City Chiefs, Oh my goodness,

789
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: what has happened to the Kansas City Chiefs? There now

790
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: six and five riding a three game losing streak. Everybody

791
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: thought they would get healthy at home against the Bills,

792
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: but they did not, and their offense once again, Hey,

793
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: I know, I just went through that seminar. We're gonna

794
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: use it again. That offense looked impotent and now they

795
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: traveled to the meadowlands. Why was that? That was okay?

796
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: All right? I think that's fine totally. That is a

797
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: descriptive word for their offense. Words are sometimes used in

798
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: multiple manners. Thank you, Chris. This is why it's great

799
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: to have Chris here. He's got my back. They traveled

800
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: to the Metal Ends to face the New York Jets,

801
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: who have lost five of six, but they haven't lost

802
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: their fight West. Uh so it makes you think that

803
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: this should be a very competitive game. It should be,

804
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: and we have the Darrell revash and game. Anyway, it

805
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: got bandied about a little bit on Twitter, and then

806
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: I I was I got pushed into this production meeting

807
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: or this planning meeting on Wednesday, and it came up

808
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: again like, oh, let's talk about the Darrell Reevers revenge game.

809
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: That is not a revenge game. And I don't even

810
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: need to get into the reasons West continue on. Anybody

811
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: that knows anything about football or what happened last season,

812
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: or how much money the Jets paid him last year

813
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: or are still paying drill Rivers. There's no revenge. It

814
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: might be the regret game for the Jets, but it's

815
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: not the revenge game for Darrell Revers. I don't know

816
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: who to pick in this one. I almost thought about

817
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: locking up the Chiefs on the belief that they're just

818
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: a stronger team and they've been in this pot they're

819
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: due to come out of it. And I guess I

820
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: really struggled with the notion that there's just so much

821
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: outrage over Eli Manning getting pulled, and yet everyone's fine

822
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: with the notion of a guy who was in the

823
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: m v P discussion three weeks ago getting pulled. To me,

824
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: I don't see how those two scenarios lined up with

825
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: the outrage of this week. But I think Alex Smith

826
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: is due for a big game here. And I love

827
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: what Josh McCown has done this year. But these two

828
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: guys watched them throw deep bows and they got to

829
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: load up. They have to bring the ball back so

830
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: far to throw the deep ball. It's like watching the

831
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: same quarterback sometimes He's had Josh McCown has had a

832
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: lot of success with touchdown throws from outside the red zone.

833
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: So and he doesn't have a great offensive line. It's

834
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: really kind of amazing. It's the week. Yeah, he's done

835
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: a really nice job and uh we I don't know

836
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: if we really got a chance to talk about it

837
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: at length at all, but Robby Anderson has really emerged

838
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: as a legitimate playmaker in that offense. And uh he's

839
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: a real guy to get excited about as somebody they

840
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 1: could build around, especially when Quincy and noon While comes back,

841
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: who I really like as a player too. They're they're

842
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: not too far away at that position group now they're

843
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: they're not. That's a good thing for them to feel

844
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: good about. And their defense I think they should feel

845
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: good about on balance and they better. But yeah, this

846
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: is Todd Bowls and Mike mccagman's third year, so I know,

847
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: like people are happy, they're overachieving, but it's like, Okay,

848
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: it's the third year program. You need to see something,

849
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: and I think you are. On defense, I think you're

850
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: seeing a Todd Bowls even That's why I'm not so

851
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: sure about Alex Smith this week. He was pretty confused

852
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: last week that was one of the worst certainly this year,

853
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: probably his worst game. Uh. The Bill's cornerbacks after the

854
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: game said that Smith had no clue what coverage that

855
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: he was seeing and looked very confused. He was kind

856
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: of running when when he shouldn't have run like running.

857
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: You don't expect that from Alex. Right, he's throwing short

858
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: of the sticks on on third and eight. That's something

859
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: that's right that we've seen a little bit before, and

860
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: I think it's a tough matchup against the defense that

861
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: does confuse some opposing quarterbacks. I don't know if he

862
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: if you look like that again, then I think it

863
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: makes They were a hard watch. They were for a

864
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: month on offense, but especially and the fans that Arrowhead

865
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: were booing that offense by the second series because they're

866
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: they're already sick of it, and it only got worse

867
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: from there. I I just I think that people still

868
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: if you're not watching the Jets. I'm not saying the

869
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: Jets are a great team, but they fight from the

870
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: beginning to the end, and I mean the what they

871
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: did with the Panthers. It was tough to see them

872
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: lose that game because they've lost so many of these

873
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 1: games with with calls, critical calls in the fourth quarter.

874
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't look past the Jets at all if I'm

875
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: a Kansas City fan, because this is a tough situation.

876
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: I think the Jets win. I I really think they

877
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: have a chance to. And I actually don't equate. I

878
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if you were saying that,

879
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: you're saying that the Eli Manning and the Alex Smith

880
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: thing should not be equated, or that they should be.

881
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying there should be a lot more outrage at

882
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: the notion of Alex Smith being benched than Eli Manning.

883
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: I I'm gonna be honest with you, I starkly disagree

884
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: because of the two situations, I think that the other

885
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: the the other one is about Eli Manning's legacy in

886
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: the end of his career. Alex Smith, I don't think

887
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: should be benched at all because of what he's done

888
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: this season on the whole. But I don't think there

889
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: should be outraged around that. But it's a completely different situation.

890
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: One of those quarterbacks has thoroughly outplayed the other for

891
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: the last two years. Yes, but one is. But one

892
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 1: is not about this year or last year. It's about

893
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: the career and the others about how to deal with

894
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: Alex Smith this season he shouldn't be bench. But I

895
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: understand the outrage around Eli Manning, which will get to

896
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: you down the road. I think, I think there's gonna

897
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: be another game where the Jets might take a lead

898
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: into the fourth quarter. But if you're watching them week

899
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: after week, what evidence is it that they do we

900
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: have that they can win these games. I think because

901
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: they're a big play they have big playoffs. They're playing

902
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: a team that's blown him just as bad the last

903
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: few weeks against the Giants, against against the bill I mean,

904
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: they are the Chiefs are the slump busters of the

905
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: NFL right now. Like you got a problem, play the Chiefs.

906
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 1: They'll get you out of it. Wow. So you feel

907
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: strongly about this, I don't feel. I mean, I feel

908
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: the Jets are playing better right now. Do you feel

909
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: the NFL is that predictable? No, Chiefs skill six and six.

910
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: That's it's a coin flip type of game. But the

911
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: Chiefs right now have been getting some teams out of solms.

912
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are candidates to be last year's Vikings where

913
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: you starting where everyone puts them in the playoffs, in

914
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: then AFC Championship and here where are they're about to go?

915
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: Stick it to Reevas? Right? If you're playing him five

916
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: point five million dollars this year, torch him. Don't let

917
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: him beat you. I'd love to see Robbie Anderson lining

918
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: up ops him. He'll probably get Marcus Peters, but the

919
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: main Curse could make some plays. Who do you got

920
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: in this game? Mark, I'm going Jets. Are they gonna

921
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: need They are gonna need a come back come back

922
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: Curtals Barcessler come back Colonels Marcessler come back Coltals with

923
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: bark Cessler come back, Colonels with Barceessler come back, Colonels

924
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: with bar Sessler come back Colonels with Barcessler come back.

925
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: I mean that needs to be longer, right. That's that

926
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: was my takeaway. The Houston Texans are four and seven

927
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: uh and uh. They are third place in the ANFC South,

928
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: coming off a seven point loss on Monday Night to

929
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: the Ravens, and now they head to Tennessee to face

930
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: the Tight Tunes, who found a way to beat the

931
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: Cults UH in Indianapolis last week. Greg, but once again,

932
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: it was not the type of effort that blows you

933
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: away with inspiration. No that the Titans have more or

934
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: less been the same team all year. We've been waiting

935
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: for them to change, uh, in terms of their passing game.

936
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: We've been waiting for the running game to be consistent,

937
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: but it just hasn't been. I am hopeful that they

938
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: drive at the end of that game. And the Titans,

939
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: if nothing else, you have to give them credit for

940
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: four fourth quarter comebacks. They're kind of the anti Jet, Like,

941
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: they're not that different a team than the Jets are

942
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: the Colts. They've just found a way to make big

943
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: drives when it matters, and they did it last week

944
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: by giving the ball to Derrick Henry for an entire

945
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: drive who ran down the field to win a game

946
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 1: and just you would just think the light is going off.

947
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: That's like, we gotta roll with Henry because DeMarco Murray

948
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: is not that guy anymore. Well, it shouldn't that light

949
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: have gone off two months, right, That's why I'm not

950
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: confident it will. But when push came to shove, he

951
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: was the guy on the field and he did he

952
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: He practically won that game by himself. At the end

953
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: of last week's game. This is the if the Dolphins

954
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: are the worst team to watch in the NFL this year.

955
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: The Titans are the most frustrating because they come out

956
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: every week in the first quarter and run on first

957
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: and second down. They run DeMarco Murray right into the

958
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: defensive line and he won't make anyone miss. It's it

959
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: was weird to watch a year old DeMarco Murray could

960
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: not make anyone missing the line of scrimmage last week,

961
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: while Frank Gore at thirty four is way more elusive.

962
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: You put Frank Gore in a good team. He's running

963
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: pretty well this year. I'm telling you, DeMarco Murray looks

964
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: washed and I don't know if it's the hamstring injury.

965
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: How stubborn do you have to be to keep running

966
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: this guy out there? To say about your entire offense,

967
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: I think he's like under two yards to carry in

968
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: his last seventy carries. It's something one point nine. They're line.

969
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: They're l eighty yards off forte car carries for eighty yards. Well,

970
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Like Mike Mularkey seems like a coach

971
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: that's that thinks our reputation is in our identity is

972
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: our offensive line. We're gon We're gonna be a great

973
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: offensive line and that came true last year and he like,

974
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: can't adapt to the fact that they're not great this year.

975
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: West West had a tweet that your boy, Mark Lombo

976
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: liked a lot. Uh, Michael Lombardi, you said it well,

977
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: and what was that tweet? Basically, the Titans fans are

978
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: delusion what they think they have a good team. They've

979
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: been far more lucky than good and they're chasing the

980
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: ghost of last year because they're dead set on establishing

981
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: a running game. That's an apparition right now. They don't

982
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: have an identity and I look at this. I know

983
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: the Texans are lost at sea with with after you know,

984
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: post to Shaun Watson. But there are stars on this team,

985
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: like DeAndre Hopkins against the Ravens was unbelievable. Davian Clowney

986
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: is a start. I mean, they've got legit guys that

987
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: can come in and disrupt, and Mark Miller is running

988
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: pretty well these days, and star kind of star. I

989
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: just I would see that. I don't think the Titans here,

990
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: I mean they are the Titans are West is right.

991
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: They are incredibly frustrating to watch. They have been stripped

992
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: of all identity from last year and it's disapps. It's depressing.

993
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: If Marlon mac doesn't fumble and the Titans fall on

994
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: it near the goal line last week they lose. They

995
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: should not be counted on to be any team in

996
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: the NFL, and I'm not so sure they're better than

997
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: the tend By the way Marx Mariota everyone throws on

998
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: the Cults if he can't throw on the Colts. I

999
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: mean he made some great throws last week. He really

1000
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: did Delaney Walker when it was like four on one

1001
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: cover beautiful one like that every week where it was

1002
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: a bad game on bound though I thought he had

1003
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: a good game, it was really good. He he has

1004
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: taken you know, I think he's a tough guy. I

1005
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: would never question his toughness, but I think he's taken

1006
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: it hard. That West forsake them early in the year

1007
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: and he gave you know what that franchise had a

1008
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: coming for signing Matt Castle. Sorry should not be in

1009
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: the um. Is that Jimi Hendrix song. It's like Castle

1010
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: has made us and I thought that was someone else.

1011
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: Frumbo to this. It's your song now? Who cares where

1012
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: it originated from? Already have automatic for the people on

1013
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: the Throwback podcast last this week. Oh yeah, jam that

1014
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: in there. What's going on the Heating Light podcast? Mark Ah,

1015
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: you know what, actually had some chats with us wards.

1016
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 1: It's going back, come back, Yeah, absolutely coming back. I'm

1017
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: not gonna it's a surprise. Why are you chuckling like

1018
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: an old gentleman from the sixties and right now it's

1019
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: wrong with you because he just played into his whole

1020
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: is your secondary podcast coming back? I will not have

1021
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: the listener to go through that sound bit again. We've

1022
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: had Dan hands this, you know, the Dan hands a

1023
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: song and that forget about it. By the way, that's

1024
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: come back colonels with Mark Sessler. That's your thing, embrace it,

1025
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: by the well, if that's my thing, I feel like

1026
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: I want to talk to my agent about getting a

1027
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: different jingle moving on Cleveland Browns. Like Cleveland Browns. You

1028
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: know he's gonna need an agent, you Jackson and Sashi

1029
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: and all of them because they're gonna need new jobs. WHOA.

1030
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate your delight in that too, Dan, have a

1031
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: nice Thursday. Oh. In eleven, they had to Los Angeles

1032
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: to face the Chargers five and six. However, the Chargers

1033
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: Mark are playing very well, uh really well in fact,

1034
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: and that's people think that the Chargers are going to

1035
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs to you agree, well, in a terrible a

1036
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: f C. West, I think they have as good of

1037
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: a shot as anyone in that division. And I know

1038
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people this week have talked about Josh

1039
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: Gordon coming back for Cleveland. I think the bigger wide

1040
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: receiver story is Keenan Allen. I really love that that

1041
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: Los Angeles the last couple of weeks that he is

1042
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: the engine of that offense. They have centered it around him,

1043
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: and he's the reason I give them hope. I think

1044
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: that they are finally they've got their act together. The

1045
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: defense obviously has got some talent, and I think that

1046
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: Los Angeles can do this. I think they're gonna take

1047
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: care of Cleveland, especially after last year. You're not gonna

1048
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: say we're gonna be the team to get Cleveland in

1049
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: the wind callum two years in a row. There has

1050
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 1: to be something inside that locker room about that says

1051
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: we simply at home cannot lose. Be a Chargers thing

1052
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: to do. Though, yeah, it's it is. It got their

1053
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: coach fired last year. I think they're playing too well.

1054
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: On both sides of the ball. Their defense, they've got,

1055
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: according to Pro Football Focus, the number one and two

1056
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: pass rushers in the NFL in Boston Ingram Casey Hayward

1057
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: is the number one cornerback in the NFL, and their

1058
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: rookie Desmond King is number eleven. Tron Williams, the other cornerback,

1059
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: is number twelve. I think they are. They are really

1060
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: good in secondary and in pain in generating turnovers. And

1061
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a you know, it's the

1062
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: reason why things change. But when the minute Denzel Perriman

1063
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: came back, they were a different defense. They were really

1064
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: bad at that position. And he hads a physical element

1065
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: and he stops there. They're a tough team to to

1066
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: run on. Now they are. Yeah, you guys talk about

1067
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen was conversing with our producer behind the scenes

1068
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: just now, So I missed everything. We opened with Keenan Allen.

1069
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: You did. That's what I opened with, Like, yes, he's playing, well,

1070
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: you just you just skip past Joss Gordon by the way.

1071
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that is a big story. I saw randomly

1072
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: some fantasy analysts out there be like, oh, he's officially

1073
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 1: the starter now I'll put him into my top fifty.

1074
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: You know, maybe I'll put him into my top fifty

1075
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: fantasy receivers this week. And I'm thinking, I'm kind of

1076
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 1: expecting Josh Gordon to be good right away. They are

1077
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: you always done that, right they are? They are excited

1078
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: about what they see. He is one of the most

1079
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: physically talented players we've seen over the last five years.

1080
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: I expect him to go in and put up yards.

1081
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: And all nineteen of his comebacks from suspension that we've

1082
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: seen to date, he's come right in and gone off.

1083
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: That's what ee. Before the last suspension, though, wasn't he

1084
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: not playing well and they were forcing the ball and

1085
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: it was no, no, no, Actually, the last time we

1086
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: saw him was last season's preseason and he was dominant

1087
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: and he was huge, and he was blowing corner in

1088
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: regular season. That was some numbers there, but but kind

1089
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: of hurting the team. You're talking a long time ago.

1090
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: I just remember it was Brian Hoyer before he got benched,

1091
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: forcing the ball to him. Um. I was having a

1092
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: conversation with Steve Wish of NFL Network. He does a

1093
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: great job. We were talking about like who is the

1094
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: most the most impressive physical specimen in terms of like

1095
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: a guy you know you've seen uh play football. His

1096
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: choice was Josh Gordon. Really, I don't know. Dan and

1097
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: I were feed away from Jendeveon Clowney. He's pretty impressive

1098
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 1: and would have to be up there. I don't think

1099
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: anyone's ever gonna be Jendeveon Clowney's bod. Is that inappropriate? No,

1100
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: because it's just he's a specimen. All right. You're always

1101
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: towing the line. Have you seen what they were at

1102
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: the NFL Combine? I don't look like that. I mean,

1103
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: I think you're allowed to talk about bodies if they're

1104
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: putting them on display like that. The underwear Olympics is

1105
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: your old buss, says Greg the floor, Mr Florio, he said,

1106
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: Evans a scrooge or something. He's an NFL owner. Um,

1107
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: all right. The Carolina Panthers eight and three, Hi a

1108
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: top the NFC South with who the Nollans Saints? Greg

1109
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: Rosenthal also eight and three? Yes, on the strength of

1110
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: that comeback went over the Jets. In week twelve, the

1111
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: Panthers moved into that tie with the Saints, who had

1112
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: kind of a hard luck loss there to the Rams.

1113
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: Oh this is the game of the week, isn't it?

1114
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: It is? And it could turn on whether they get

1115
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lattimore back. He was at practice Wednesday, so you think, okay,

1116
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: he's good to go. He was not at practice Thursday,

1117
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: and the Saints are a totally different team without him.

1118
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: The Rams really went after Davante Harris to the point

1119
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: where he got bench last week. Who replaced him? It

1120
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: will help to have Carly back in the mix. And

1121
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: I know the Panthers can't be counted on to really

1122
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: move the ball in the passing game anyways, but I

1123
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: do think Lattimore really change inges everything in terms of

1124
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: the way that they attacked opposing teams running offense, in

1125
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: terms of the pressure that they can get in the

1126
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: blitz is. So that's something to watch going into it.

1127
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: I know they lost to the Rams, and I Alvin

1128
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: Kamar has been talked to death, but watch rewatching that game,

1129
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: not on this podcast. Not enough, not enough. I just

1130
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: cannot think of too many other players, non quarterbacks, who

1131
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: can dominate a game the way he did, and that

1132
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: against Los Angeles and there's him. I don't really believe

1133
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: I can't think of another player quite like not a

1134
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: perfect match. Tony Romo compared him to Brian Westbrook. I

1135
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: see some Percy Harvin and his elusiveness. He's not as

1136
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: explosive and strong and powerful as Harvin. There's almost a

1137
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: nonchalant to his smoothness. But he like gets that's right.

1138
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: He runs through like the ankle tackle. Like you don't

1139
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: think of him as strong, but he runs through tackles.

1140
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: He just sort of moves at the last seconds, almost

1141
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: sid Yeah, he's almost casual in the way he slips

1142
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: in sheds tackles. They also talked about him that they,

1143
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: you know, they gave him a package of plays early

1144
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: in the season, that he was just like, I can

1145
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: do much more than that. Like he's he's he was

1146
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: ready from the first minute mentally too. And and it's

1147
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: funny because Ingram is so good and yet I think

1148
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: when push comes to stuff, certainly when they're trailing in

1149
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: a game, I think Peyton believes Kimeara's ultimately going to

1150
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: cause more problems for Ingram. Sort of disappeared last week

1151
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: late in the game when they kind of went hurry

1152
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: up and they were just throwing every down. And that's

1153
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: the way the Panthers want to get the Saints playing.

1154
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: That's not how the Saints need to be in two

1155
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen. But they can get pressure up the middle.

1156
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 1: Kawan Short is playing awesome this year. He really does

1157
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: it every year, kind of under the radar, and that's

1158
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: where Breeze struggles. If you can get pressure on him

1159
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: up the middle, like the Rams did last week, he

1160
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: can he can be a little frazzled like any quarterback.

1161
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: Panthers are a tricky team to figure out this year.

1162
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: I thought they played for a large portion of their

1163
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: game in New York last week terribly. They looked out

1164
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: very disappointing. Coming out of the Dolphins game, I think, yeah,

1165
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: I think Cam Newton threw the ball extremely poorly and

1166
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: the stats back that up. Um, they needed the Jets

1167
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: to get Jets to to win that game. And in

1168
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: the Lattimore thing is real, that's a real deal thing.

1169
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: But and again I don't love doing this. I don't

1170
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: feel that strongly about it. But it's kind of a

1171
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: tough week for it based on the way Panthers look

1172
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: last week, the fact that I do love the Saints

1173
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: at home, especially in the fact that Lattimore probably will

1174
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: be back. I'm gonna lock it up. I'm I like

1175
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: the tempered, enthusiast anticlimactic. Yeah, because I'm I'm a little

1176
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: nervous about this one because again, the Panthers from week

1177
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: to week, you really don't know what you're gonna get.

1178
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: But I just I do like the Saints a lot.

1179
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: You've been a better team this year than the Panthers,

1180
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: even though they have the same record. They have been better.

1181
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: The point difference, everything says it, but things can the

1182
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: seasons can change. That's why if I was a Saints fan,

1183
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: I'd be a little worried. Just you know, Armsteads a

1184
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: little banged up ladder, you know, some key guys, like

1185
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: they should be ahead of this division. It's amazing that

1186
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: the Panthers and Falcons are right there. It sounds like

1187
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: Carolina may not have Greg Olsen. That would be a

1188
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: big take away. Yeah. I didn't get through the last

1189
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: week's game. I didn't think he looked like himself even

1190
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: before he reinjured his foot. He was moving really gingerly.

1191
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: I thought, right, And they they're not much on offense.

1192
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: If they don't have a running game, I guess it's

1193
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: week to week to find out. If they did they

1194
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: had it back for a couple of weeks, didn't really

1195
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: emphasize it last week, dropped a pitch every week. It

1196
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: seems like you would think there's there might be internal

1197
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: talk with the Panthers. They see themselves as a likely

1198
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: playoff team. Maybe give Uson a couple of weeks again

1199
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: to see if he could feel right if they put

1200
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: him back out there again and he leaves with another

1201
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: foot injury they have in the Saints. Let's not forget

1202
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: dropped dropped a bomb on the Panthers back in Week three.

1203
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: I mean just a destruction of them, which the time

1204
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: felt random, but it actually was the start of what

1205
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: I feel like they were both I saw it. I

1206
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: thought they were both different teams back then, though, so

1207
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: I want to see how that translates. Moving on, the

1208
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: New York Giants travel to the Black Hole to face

1209
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders. The Raiders still hanging around in the

1210
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 1: a f C playoff picture. The Chiefs freefall has really

1211
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: changed the complexion um of the playoff race because now

1212
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: that division is potentially in place. So they are UH

1213
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: five and six after their win over the Broncos, UH

1214
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: and the Giants, of course UH Mark Sessler have Geno

1215
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: Smith behind center straight games for Eli Manning, that street

1216
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: comes to an end. Yeah, And I guess you know,

1217
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: I I think it's interesting just to see the different

1218
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: reactions to the Eli Manning thing because Wes, I totally

1219
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: understand where you're coming from. And I, I don't know

1220
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: if it's just growing up watching the Giants my whole life,

1221
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: listening to w f Ann for hours at a time

1222
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, and just to see

1223
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: the visceral reaction from Giants fans, all of my friends

1224
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: that I grew up with their Giants fans in there.

1225
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: They're upset by how the team, a team that's normally

1226
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: handled things so well, this feels like something that the

1227
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: Brown so the Knicks would do, and the way they

1228
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: handled this and they hadn't know it already and they

1229
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: know it because the owners said, oh, you know, and

1230
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: whether whether it was the right decision or not, like

1231
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: it's just it did it rubbed me the wrong way.

1232
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: And it's not about the fact that Eli Manning is

1233
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: some quality quarterback this season. But I don't where the

1234
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: message gets mixed for me, is this concept that we're

1235
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: gonna get a look at Geno Smith of all people,

1236
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: That's all it is, Like, that's that I think I

1237
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: had If they had a Patrick Mahomes sitting behind him,

1238
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: we would we would understand this decision and we would

1239
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: see it as forward progress. Geno Smith to me, never

1240
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: equates to forward progress in a quarterback switch situation. That's all.

1241
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: I just I don't understand why the second part two,

1242
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. And Webb is gonna play.

1243
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: Webb's gonna play the second part for me is and

1244
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: we talked about it. How the Oh, there's no way

1245
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: this could be Ben mcadoo's decision, and perhaps it's not not,

1246
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: But the more we're reading there is a possibility I

1247
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: think that it was mishandled, which the Giants don't mishandled

1248
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: things where basically McAdoo pitched this idea of playing half

1249
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: a game, uh, and then that was the whole thing rejected.

1250
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: He rejected it, and then it led to what happened

1251
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: before maybe even went up the flagpole, which is should

1252
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: be inexcusable. It's potentially McAdoo might have been the one

1253
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: that was at the center of this and then ownership

1254
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 1: when I'm just saying maybe not as cut and dry

1255
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: as we thought it was when the news came out

1256
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: that McAdoo might have actually been at the center of this,

1257
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: which should have never happened because mcadoo's Ray Handley, he's

1258
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: instant history and and Manning's a legend. For the Giants.

1259
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: It almost always ends poorly. If you listen to Bill Walsh,

1260
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, Don Shula, they would say he would cut

1261
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: his mother. The all these legendary coaches will cut anyone.

1262
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't end great, But the Giants messed it up.

1263
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what what rubs me the wrong way

1264
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: is why was it so prepositive as blasphemy to blasph

1265
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: for me to suggest trading Eli at the deadline? Because

1266
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: the Giants are a solid organization will have a statue

1267
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: of Eli someday. He can't just trade him. Yeah, you

1268
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: have to look out for the organization, not the player,

1269
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: and the organization should have traded him. But I would

1270
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: have helped him trading. With trading him, I would not

1271
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: have had the same reaction to it's the season is lost.

1272
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: The idea that the icing on the cake to one

1273
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: of the worst Giant seasons in four decades is you

1274
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: for no real reason, Bench him for a player that

1275
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: we have no ideas to be any better, and it's well,

1276
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: people hate Gino and the vitriolte to Gino. I feel

1277
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: like it is even over because he's been a New

1278
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: York quarterback and because he's definitely had his off field

1279
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: things that rub people the wrong way understandably, like people

1280
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: just don't like him in terms of like they don't

1281
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: give him a chance at all. The last four starts

1282
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: he had for the Jets were actually stuck solid when

1283
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: he it's been so long since he even played. I

1284
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: feel like I have a lot on the line watching

1285
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: this game, and I think the Giants have a chance

1286
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: because I mean, Gino Nation, I was thinking of lock

1287
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: in this game up. You know, we're out small Nation,

1288
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: We're strong because this Raiders team has got a bad defense,

1289
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,919
Speaker 1: So that's good for him. And they might not have

1290
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: a Marii Cooper or Michael Crabtree. It looks like they

1291
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: definitely wanta have Craftrey. It looks like they want to

1292
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: have Cooper, so they're starting Seth Roberts, who's the lowest

1293
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: ranked wide receiver in Pro Football Focus in the entire season.

1294
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: Johnny Holton, who's struggling It's like, I don't trust this

1295
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: Raiders team for anything, and losing to the Giants would

1296
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: not surprise teams them better. Geno Smith, and you did

1297
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: what you did to the Jets and then with the

1298
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: Giants with a very very good chance to get the

1299
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft to have their quarterback

1300
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: of their picking, and you're Geno Smith and you pull

1301
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: out a game on the West Coast to pull the

1302
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: Giants out of that. You do not live in New

1303
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: York City after this season. You've got to go find

1304
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,439
Speaker 1: somewhere to go live west in the desert. You're saying

1305
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: he should try to tank. I mean, you don't think that.

1306
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: You can't, like, you can't script a worse scenario to

1307
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: be a New York resident than Geno Smith. The Giants

1308
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: sent out a tweet of Ben McAdoo praising how Geno

1309
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: Smith looked in practice yesterday, and then Gino Smith retweeted it.

1310
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I love the Geno Coast. I'm gonna miss

1311
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: it when it's gone, but it's and it's great that

1312
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: it's back in. Greg's in the front car. That's right

1313
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: for every view. Well, the coaster has one car in

1314
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 1: He's in it, right, well, I wrote this making the leap,

1315
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: which was you know, I have to admit not I

1316
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: don't know if it was tongue in cheek, but it

1317
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: was partly intended just to annoy everyone in this room.

1318
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: But I wrote that, and he hasn't started and completed

1319
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: a game since I wrote that years ago. No, I'm saying,

1320
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: like I've still been Wade, He's he's got to make

1321
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: that leap. After five years of pointing out on this

1322
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: podcast that Eli man, he's the most overrated football player

1323
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, I do want to also point out

1324
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: that I think it's really cool the universal respect that

1325
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: he renders, that he engenders and that you saw from

1326
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: every corner of the football community that he's held in

1327
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: that high everygard. How can you hate Elie? Maybe not

1328
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: as a player, you don't like him, but he's always

1329
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: been He's a good dude, class act and he comes

1330
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: to work and does the whole thing. Yes, not go on? Okay? Uh.

1331
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Rams eight and three got back on

1332
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: track with that important win over the Saints last Sunday,

1333
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: and now they traveled to the Desert UH to face

1334
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals and Chris Westling this is a game

1335
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: that the Rams they're the better team, but the Cardinals

1336
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: should not be overlooked as some pushover. Right, it depends

1337
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: which Cardinals teams show up. I mean some weeks they

1338
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: are pushover and then some weeks like last week when

1339
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones beasted out and was one of the best

1340
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: players in the field, and Blaine Gabbert had some comeback

1341
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: in him and made some good throws. I don't think

1342
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: you overlooked them, but you know the right, the Rams

1343
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: are the better team, and to me, they have one

1344
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: of the stories of two thousand seventeen in the NFL

1345
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: going on right now. Their innovation what Sean McVeigh is

1346
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: doined with Jared Goff at the line of scrimmage in

1347
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: a hurry up offense before the mic shuts off at

1348
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds. Basically, Jared Goff is taking Sean mcveigh's brain

1349
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage. Sean McVeigh is calling out

1350
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: the other defense. Sean McVeigh is calling out the audibles.

1351
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: And this is like, to me, it goes back in

1352
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: the line of history to coaches have done with Paul

1353
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: Brown was this goes back to the nineteen fifties with

1354
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: auto ground Autograham Paul Brown was uh criticized for turning

1355
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: its quarterback into a robot. And this is what Sean

1356
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: McVeigh is doing with Jared Goff now. And I think

1357
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: it's a credit to Sean McVeigh that he's doing it,

1358
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: because anyone could do it. But you have to be

1359
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: on top of the defense. You have to be on

1360
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: top of your playbook. Sean McVeigh delegates responsibilities to other

1361
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: assistance that motes head coaches have. And I saw Scott

1362
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: mcgluin former Redskins GM this week said it's not that easy.

1363
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of great offensive minds who can't

1364
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: do what Sean McVeigh has done. They've tried to do it,

1365
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: and they've got they've got something going that I think

1366
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: might take the league by fire, or the competition committee

1367
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: might address it, or there aren't that many people like

1368
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: you say they could pull it off of it. A

1369
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 1: lot of first year head coaches that consider themselves who

1370
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: or who considered to be offensive gurus. They jump in,

1371
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call my own plays, I'm gonna take the

1372
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: whole offense on my back, and the holting crumbles because

1373
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: there's too much as head coach to absorb and do

1374
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: a long during the weekend on game days, and he's

1375
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: done it in pristine fashion like he has to be seen,

1376
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: although I think it should always be Belichick. But he

1377
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,439
Speaker 1: is the coach of the year with no one even

1378
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: close behind him right now. I think that's true. And

1379
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: you just notice Peyton Manning did the same thing is essentially,

1380
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: but he was the one that's making all the choices.

1381
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: You get up to the line with seconds left, you

1382
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 1: look at it and then you just wait. You end up.

1383
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: It looks like you're wasting a lot of time, but

1384
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: you're calling the audible, You're you're moving guys around, and

1385
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: it was striking to see that in person. How that's

1386
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: just play after play after play, and I think Golf

1387
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: deserves a lot of credit. And you could almost see

1388
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: him getting maybe just a little bit annoyed because there's

1389
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: about six or seven straight questions on it Wednesday, because

1390
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 1: it's still takes and McVeigh pointed this out, it still

1391
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: takes golf really to understand what to do, and it

1392
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: still has the option routes where the receiver in the

1393
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: quarterback have to see things the right way, and sometimes

1394
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: he's tuning out, you know, McVeigh a little bit. He

1395
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: still has to be right there. But McVeigh with a

1396
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: young quarterback like, he's taking advantage of what the rules

1397
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: allow and he's helping because the presumption could be, oh, well,

1398
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: golf can't handle this, so he needs to have a

1399
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: babysitter pointing all this stuff out. But it's not. I

1400
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 1: think it's the opposite that you need a poisoned, very

1401
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: um intelligent quarterback at his age still to be handling

1402
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. The history of the NFL

1403
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: and coaching is that you go up right up to

1404
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: the line of cheating to get your competitive advantage. And

1405
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 1: that's what Sean mcveigh's doing. There's no rule against this,

1406
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: it's not illegal. He's getting his competitive edge and he's

1407
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: taking it. And what you point out about Peyton Manning

1408
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: what he's doing is he's eliminating the ten thousand reps

1409
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: that Malcolm Gladwell, you know, is famous for that. You

1410
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: don't become an expert that's something until you get those reps.

1411
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: So McVeigh is doing the thinking up there, and I

1412
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: think what you'll see next now that it's becoming common knowledge.

1413
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: Just in the past couple of weeks. What's going on?

1414
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: What's the stuff at defense from at fourteen seconds? Totally

1415
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: transforming the look they're giving because Sean McVeigh is up

1416
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: there telling McVeigh what the defense is. Microphone shuts off

1417
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: at fifteen seconds. As a defense, Now, all of a sudden,

1418
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: you transform into a different defense before we move on

1419
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: to the next game. Mark, you mentioned w f AN

1420
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: right on fire when the ELI news went down. Uh,

1421
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: and I was really happy that my boy Mike Francessa

1422
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,759
Speaker 1: and our boy Mark got one last giant New York Sports.

1423
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 1: Sorry to to really sick his teeth into Uh. We

1424
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: have a couple of calls just for fun, let's check

1425
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: in how Giants Fence took it on w f A N,

1426
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: the major sports station in New York. I have had

1427
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: with the Giants organization. I have been a fan all

1428
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: my life, had I had seen the Giants go through

1429
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: terrible times. He's a great man, he's a good quarterback.

1430
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: He is surrounded by an offensive line that had been

1431
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: changed up what seven eight times this season, and they're

1432
01:10:55,439 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: gonna put Gino Smiths in. I am six us have

1433
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: handled This is a hallmark of those two organizations completely

1434
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: bungling a delicate situation like this, and as far as

1435
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,759
Speaker 1: Eli goes, he's gonna land on his feat, have another

1436
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: two or three good years, and the Giants are gonna

1437
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: have to grovel on their knees to get him to

1438
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: come back and retire his number. Very fired up? All right,

1439
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 1: let's move on, guys, to Sunday night football. Oh yeah,

1440
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles ten and one, the best team in football,

1441
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: at least according to that record, get a nice test

1442
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: at their soft part of their schedule that they took

1443
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 1: advantage of. They traveled to Seattle Chris Wesley to face

1444
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, who don't have Camp Chancellor. They don't have

1445
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, but they still have Russell Wilson, and that

1446
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,799
Speaker 1: means they have a chance. Right, they have a chance.

1447
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,799
Speaker 1: But the Eagles aren't just the best team by record,

1448
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: the best team by the eye test, by every metric

1449
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 1: you can come up with, celebration test. They're just the

1450
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: best team. And I know Mark has said they put

1451
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: him in a late eighties frame of mind. When I

1452
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: watched them, they put me in a weird headspace. I

1453
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: started thinking, you got on one side of the field,

1454
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: you've got these highly athletic human beings. On the other

1455
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: side of the field, you have another group of highly

1456
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,799
Speaker 1: athletic human beings. They're all drafting from the same talent pool.

1457
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: Yet the ones in green do everything perfectly and the

1458
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 1: ones on the other side of the ball can't do

1459
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: anything weird. It's just you watched them and they're like,

1460
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: why are the Eagles so much better than the other

1461
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 1: team on the field. Why is it that everything they

1462
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 1: do just hums and works perfectly And it has to

1463
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: come down not only to talent but also deployment. They're

1464
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: being coached really well. I think that's right, and it

1465
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: seems crazy that you're saying it about the Eagles. And

1466
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed for us as fans that Chancellor and Richard

1467
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 1: Sherman aren't in this game because this would be such

1468
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: a perfect test. But it's still a really good test.

1469
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they're playing good enough defense in Seattle if

1470
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: they can go in that atmosphere on Sunday night football

1471
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 1: and go up and down the field and do whatever

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01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,560
Speaker 1: they want to on offense, and mostly I'm going to

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01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: look at the line when the Eagles have the ball

1474
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: because the Eagles have a rare thing and that's why

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01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: they're the best team. They have the best offensive line

1476
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: in football, and I don't think that's really a question

1477
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: right now, and they have the best defensive line in football.

1478
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 1: You can make cases for other teams and that could

1479
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 1: and if you've got that in a in an m

1480
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: v P style quarterback, like if they can dominate Michael

1481
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: Bennett and Frank Clark in that group who's been playing

1482
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,959
Speaker 1: really well lately, then they can dominate anyone best offensive

1483
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: line right now minus their star left tackle. And I

1484
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: look at every position group of the Eagles, and I

1485
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 1: look at every position group of the Seahawks, and I say,

1486
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: you tell me one place where Seattle is predominantly better

1487
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 1: this seater game Eagles. I just don't. I just don't

1488
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: have it count. If Zach Art's counsel, it's a little closer.

1489
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: But the way but to to West's point that the

1490
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: way that they're being this back and forth is kind

1491
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: of enjoyable, just keep it. I don't know yours. I

1492
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 1: think this is the game that a lot of people

1493
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: who if you're sleeping on Seattle and their ups and

1494
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: downs this season, you think, oh, in Seattle. They're gonna

1495
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: take care of business against Eagles. This is where the

1496
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: Eagles stumble. I've been hearing it this Eagles are gonna

1497
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: stumble once and once or twice before now in the

1498
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: end of the year. I think this is the game

1499
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 1: where they go in and so we're gonna show you

1500
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: how complete we are, how we are buzzing, and this

1501
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: is the team right now that is absolutely gonna roll

1502
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: into the playoffs fourteen and two, fifteen and one, and

1503
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 1: they will not be stopped. They are an unrestrained buzz saw.

1504
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: Which is why I'm looking the clink and put it

1505
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: on the Seahawks. I like that the Seahawks have not

1506
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 1: not been underdogs at home like this. They're a touchdown

1507
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,759
Speaker 1: underdog this week in I think since before Pete Carroll

1508
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: was around, or maybe the first, you know year, like,

1509
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: no one's expecting them to win this game. And if

1510
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: they do get drilled, and that wouldn't surprise me because

1511
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: I think they're very flawed team. Can we start having

1512
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: the conversation maybe a little more in Seattle and nationally

1513
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 1: to get rid of this Seattle offense of coaching staff.

1514
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 1: I am sick of Tom Cable I'm sick of Daryl

1515
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: Bevil and everyone's saying, Okay, Russell Wilson's carrying everyone around him. Yeah,

1516
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: that's true, including the coaching staff. It is a tough

1517
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: group to watch. They're supposed it's all supposed to be about, like, Okay,

1518
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: maybe they don't pass protect well, but they got that

1519
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: zone blocking scheme that you're gonna be able to run

1520
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: the ball. They can't do that either, and it's I

1521
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: think it's a really poorly coached offensive group and they

1522
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: need to change it because they're waste in the defense.

1523
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: Does go a little bit beyond just the coaching, Like you,

1524
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 1: We've said it a million times, you've not addressed correctly,

1525
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: at least with good draft picks. But that's that's kind

1526
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: of my point is that there those are all first

1527
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 1: and second round picks on their offensive line and Dwayne

1528
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: Brown getting played paid on the money they've invested a lot.

1529
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: So it's either John Schneider's for all or the coaches.

1530
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: And I don't think you're getting rid of cut Alex Collins,

1531
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: who looks like the best player of the Ravens have

1532
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: on offense right now, and that's the position the Seahawks

1533
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 1: need This was a front office that everyone looked at

1534
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 1: and said, let's do things their way. And there was

1535
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: a reason for that. They were very successful, but they've

1536
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: hit flaws. This offense has not grown, it's regressed. They

1537
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: are seven and four, and if they can find a

1538
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: way to win at home, which will be a huge

1539
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 1: challenge against the Eagles, they will be eight and four

1540
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: and the loser of the Saints and Panthers will drop

1541
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: to eight and four. So uh and if they if

1542
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: they don't find a way to win at home, they're

1543
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: in deep trouble. They're gonna have a real hard It's

1544
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: gonna be a hard task to find a way into

1545
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 1: the ram. The rams coming up to picture and yeah,

1546
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 1: I I know you you throughout your hot tache. Um,

1547
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: you destroyed that hot take. You destroyed the hot tache.

1548
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: Not according to Seahawks fans in my mentions, I didn't you.

1549
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 1: You just said he destroyed the hot take. That the

1550
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson could win m VP. I think he's

1551
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 1: gonna have a huge game here. And if if they

1552
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 1: win and beat the ten and one Eagles in prime time,

1553
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: guess what people are gonna pick up gonna get louder

1554
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: and louder than is that he should be in the conversation. Well,

1555
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: one thing with with that, I want to point out,

1556
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: ist of season is to go. So if Russell Wilson

1557
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 1: lit these teams on fire, you know, the the Eagles

1558
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: and the the Rams for instance, coming up like, that's

1559
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: a lot of season left, we think of it, it's

1560
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: almost done. It's like thirty percent of the seasons fifty

1561
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 1: games in baseball, right, so why did you destroy the

1562
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 1: hot Well, right now I'm saying, right now, he's not

1563
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: in the conversation. You know, in in a future episode here,

1564
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 1: the hot take he destroys could be his own hot take.

1565
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,839
Speaker 1: It's good we have that flexibility. We do so flexible.

1566
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 1: We locked up a ten and one team and a

1567
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: one intent team on this podcast today. I wouldn't count

1568
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 1: on Russell Wilson lighting up an Eagle secondary that everybody

1569
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 1: has underrated all season long. This is the top five secondary.

1570
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: And what's a bigger mismatch in the NFL than Seattle's

1571
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 1: pass protection against this Philadelphia line. I I kind of

1572
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 1: think this is the reckoning of of the poor Seattle

1573
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: coaching that's just been counting on Russell Wilson to spend

1574
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: magic when you go up against a team like this.

1575
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: I do not underestimate Russell Wilson either. I'm really looking

1576
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: forward to this game. Finally, Monday Night Football. The Pittsburgh Steelers, Oh,

1577
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: looking good, feeling good. Six game winning streak, nine in

1578
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: two uh, and they have a titanic matchup against the

1579
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: Patriots looming. Even Mike Tomlin acknowledged it uh this week.

1580
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: But first they gotta go into Cincinnati and basically end

1581
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: end the season of their old rival, Greg. And that's

1582
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 1: that's a nice little character, Daniel for a team. It is.

1583
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: I thought they did it a while back. I remember

1584
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: Mark being particularly happy one Sunday podcast when he thought

1585
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: the Bengals had been put to rest. If they win

1586
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 1: this game, they they show up in this game and

1587
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 1: somehow pull it off, which I have no confidence, uh

1588
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: that they will. But if they could do that, then

1589
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: they are absolutely back in this match. Yeah. But then

1590
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: if they do that, then the Steelers team, which has

1591
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: been credited Greg, you've called them the best team in

1592
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: the a f C, that theory get shredded big time.

1593
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: It's like, well you gonna you can't have it both

1594
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 1: ways here. I teams lose They've won what seventh straight

1595
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 1: for a team they don't here if you're the Steelers,

1596
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 1: six straight, I said at the top of this second,

1597
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 1: Oh my bad, six straight. I mean they're I don't

1598
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: think they're gonna go fourteen and two. They're not a

1599
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: team that's gonna win, you know, eleven straight to end

1600
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,440
Speaker 1: the season. They're just too They're just two in Foxborough

1601
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 1: in the last weekend. They're they're too inconsistent. But this

1602
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: Bengals team is not going to sneak up on them

1603
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 1: like the Steelers go on the road against Batis because

1604
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 1: the Bengals think it's a rivalry game, even though this

1605
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: is one of the most one sided for the last

1606
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 1: forty years, it's one of the most one sided I

1607
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 1: guess rivalries, and on national television in a primetime game.

1608
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: I believe the Steelers are ten and oh and their

1609
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 1: last ten prime time games, and the Bengals are two

1610
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: and eight. Wow, the Bengals do not show up on

1611
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 1: prime time and idiot. And the Steelers are completing with

1612
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: this game what I like to call the Adam Gaze,

1613
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: which is they are completing their three week tour across

1614
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: our primetime properties. Thursday Night to Sunday night to Monday night.

1615
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: But unlike the Dolphins, they're fun to watch. They get

1616
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: it done, you know, in the end. And Ben Roethlisberger,

1617
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: after all the struggles that he had early in the season,

1618
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: is playing well. He's playing well enough. And and he

1619
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 1: was a guy I remember the kind of conventional wisdom

1620
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 1: I probably said it to five six years ago, was

1621
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 1: here's a quarterback that's not gonna age well. And you

1622
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 1: know what, he can't move around anymore. He's not really

1623
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: making those crazy plays. But he's aging just fine. I mean,

1624
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 1: he's still a top ten very solid quarterbacks, you know,

1625
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 1: same age as Eli Manny and Philip Rivers. But he's

1626
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 1: still playing, not at his best, but close to that point.

1627
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 1: In their last five games, which they've won every game, Uh,

1628
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 1: thirteen touchdowns, four picks of passer rating near one oh five,

1629
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 1: over eight yards per attempt. Uh, he's doing big Ben things.

1630
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: He doesn't yeah, like you're saying, he doesn't escape trouble

1631
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 1: like he used to. He's much more statusque thing a

1632
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: little bit well not to say like the old days. Well,

1633
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 1: go watch the game winning drive against the Colts, and

1634
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: he's getting out of trouble a couple of times to

1635
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 1: win the game. He yeah, that he's doing more of

1636
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,799
Speaker 1: the Brady kind of moving in the pocket, getting around,

1637
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: maybe not the crazy like whirling dervishes. And they the Steelers,

1638
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: even though the defense isn't always dominant, they do have

1639
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 1: a way of closing out these games, these close games

1640
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 1: to it, and Hayward seemed to always be their closers

1641
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 1: where in the fourth quarter that's when they get the

1642
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,600
Speaker 1: most pressures. One Bengals question speaking to Marvin Lewis, is

1643
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: this the last time we see Marvin Lewis facing the

1644
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,839
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, this coach of Cincinnati. It's a good question.

1645
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 1: I hope not, because I have sandwiches randomly on not

1646
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: randomly what if? What if she were to extend beyond

1647
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: food for you know, I have sandwiches on the Bengals

1648
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: making the playoffs, So I'm not giving up hope. To

1649
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: West's point, the Steelers have won eleven of the last

1650
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: fourteen matchups, including the playoffs. By the way, Pittsburgh, you

1651
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: want to talk about non rivalries, it's a non rivalry

1652
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:58,440
Speaker 1: against the Bengals, and the rivalry between Pittsburgh and Cleveland

1653
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: is utterly abysmal ther there is. It's utterly ridiculous. So

1654
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 1: that's two teams in your own division that you cannot

1655
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 1: call rivalries. That's it for Well sick of it? So

1656
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: is West seems fine with Well, I'm sick of it?

1657
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 1: Four West Um a little a t n cat update

1658
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 1: if we can get one before we leave there. Well,

1659
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: so this amazing go fund me pet Okay, she's that

1660
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Speaker 1: live sound. Jerry must be hanging out in the studio

1661
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 1: that does. It's like Jerry is in an aluminum can

1662
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: or something. It did sound the way we are. So

1663
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Speaker 1: we're sponsoring Jerry at at Karma Rescue, Inc. In Culver

1664
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Speaker 1: City and our thousand dollar goal which launched, you know,

1665
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 1: with with not a lot of social media fanfare because

1666
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 1: we're just letting it see totally organic. Five and fifteen

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Speaker 1: dollars out of a thousand already and it's continuing to

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Speaker 1: grow by the days. That address again, addres us is

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Speaker 1: ww dot courts of Thunder dot com. No, it is

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Speaker 1: ww dot, Go fund me everybody ww dot. That part's important,

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Speaker 1: Go fund me dot, W three ws www dot. Everyone

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Speaker 1: knows do I constantly say w w dot? I always

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Speaker 1: that brought it up hey, who says the W? All right,

1674
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 1: forget the W business. It's go fund me dot com,

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Speaker 1: slash a T N cat and if you cannot spell

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Speaker 1: a T N cat, it is a t N c

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Speaker 1: a T well. Also, if you can't spell a t

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Speaker 1: N cat, do not donate. You're probably on every dollar.

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Speaker 1: You're probably on your parents computer. Also, is any of

1680
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 1: this money. And I'm not trying to be a jerk here,

1681
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm just the dog guy. It's just going to other animals,

1682
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 1: it is. That was my question. Why would one cat

1683
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 1: name Jerry? What would it do with a cold thousand dollars?

1684
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: It's not all going to Jerry. Get to We've right,

1685
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,799
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not is not suddenly living in luxury.

1686
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: It's going to be spread to dogs, cats, and many plants.

1687
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 1: By the way, the cats in my house highly allergic

1688
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 1: to them, and they are. Last night they were up

1689
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: in our like outside our window from roughly one until

1690
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 1: three thirty in the morning, going utterly nuts. So this

1691
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: is why, this is why you're pushing this hard. Now,

1692
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,560
Speaker 1: you got to get these cats out of getting We

1693
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 1: gotta find a safe home for them. All right, there

1694
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: you go. We are philanthropic folk. Just as long as

1695
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: most of the money goes towards dogs. Yeah, let's just

1696
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: keep Let's let's at least make it at the least

1697
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 1: fifty fifty. And let's be honest, West be good too.

1698
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 1: This is turned we got weird al against. The next

1699
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: time you hear from us, you are troubled both in

1700
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 1: the West and I will be at a dog shelter. Um.

1701
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: The rest of you will be watching football, enjoying yourselves.

1702
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: And then on Sunday night we'll be back. Um. Greg

1703
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: will be on the road. I believe that's that's correct,

1704
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 1: going to the Saints game this weekend. You have to

1705
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 1: imagine by the time we do the show, Greg has

1706
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 1: got his writing done. He's gonna be in all and

1707
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: his old town. Well I haven't done though, probably not,

1708
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: but yeah, go on, So I mean, you're you're gonna

1709
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 1: get that thing done quick, so you can get out

1710
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,719
Speaker 1: on the town and do Greg things in the middle

1711
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: of New Orleans's gonna go cut loose and drink any

1712
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: grenades or anything. I know what I'd be doing if

1713
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: I were there. Those are marked things. That's marked. Okay,

1714
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: just Mark, Well, I do do you have some college

1715
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: friends that you know one's coming in town for that

1716
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 1: happens to begin town for the game. So yeah, it's

1717
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: gonna be good. Sounds like you talk people. Peo will

1718
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: disown you if you do not make it. Take advantage

1719
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: of being in New Orleans on a Sunday. I hope,

1720
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 1: I hope to be on the show as well to

1721
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 1: talk quickly about the games, you know. Alright, alright, very good,

1722
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: there you go. Let's get out of dan ads is

1723
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 1: signing up for the Quiet Storm, the mail Man, the

1724
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: Old Boss, Save Trip, Greg and Lindsay fall to behind

1725
01:25:48,840 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 1: the Glass tell Sunday Night cut