1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. All right, third hour, Clay and Buck 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: is going right now, everybody, thank you for rolling with 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: plays on vacation. This is Buck coming to you from 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: South Florida today. I did see this very funny comedian. 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: Who was it. I can't remember who it was now 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: if I remember, I'll give him full credit. But he 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: said that every year around this time, America goes from 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,319 Speaker 1: making jokes about Florida, just saying, Hey, Florida, you got 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: some room? Can I go hang out with Florida? Can 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: I bring my whole family? And it's pretty true. Right now, 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: it's very busy, very busy down here, which is a 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: great thing. I hope you're doing well wherever you are 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: across the country. And I know we're just a week 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: out from Christmas for those who celebrate. I'm a low 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: key Christmas. I'm low key about Christmas and about birthdays, 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: which is probably good because my birthday is just a 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: few days after Christmas. Know I will be off. I 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: will not be able to join you on my birthday 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: this year. My good friend Michael Barry will be in 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: at the Helm, But uh yeah, it's for me. I 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: just want to be with the people who matter. I 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe maybe that's a little a little sacher 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: in for some folks. But as I as I get older, 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: I find that you know, the gifts, the presence, the 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: I do like the I like the like the I 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: like the lovely Christmas decorations. I'm a Christmas decorations fan. 28 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: You've got a pretty nice tree going. Carrie was a 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: little worried. The tree was a little, uh, a little 30 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: patchy at the bottom, you know, a little sparse, a 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: little bit like it was like a tree with a 32 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: bit of a bit of a receding hairline at the bottom. 33 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: Wasn't wasn't really winning that that struggle. But we managed 34 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: to make it look quite nice with some some excellent 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: ornaments and adornments and other things. So it's going quite well. 36 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: We've even built a little fence around it so a 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: little ginger can't pull off all the She just bit 38 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: my toe. I'm not out. I'm not kidding. She's under 39 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: the desk right now as I'm doing the show, and 40 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: now she is she's a puppy, and so I'm sorry. 41 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: On live radio. She did just I'm just glad. I 42 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: didn't say anything I'm not allowed to say on the 43 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: radio because she just bit my toe, but she bites 44 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: with love. If you were to, you know what, I'll 45 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: take a photo of this. We can put it up 46 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: at claymbuck dot com. You can see who's riding riding, 47 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, in the sidecar here with me since I 48 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: don't have my co host Clay today, but I do 49 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: have a little ginger here hanging out with me and 50 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: apparently using my foot as a chew toy. So I 51 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: had mentioned, I had mentioned, and that way. Also, if 52 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: you hear any other exclamation from me during this coming 53 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: out of nowhere, you know what's going on that there's 54 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: this Harvard Harris poll it's eighteen to twenty four year olds. 55 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: So the youth, I guess this is is this gen 56 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: Z or what comes after gen Z? I think that 57 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: these generation naming conventions are really just it's for people 58 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: who work in the news to be able to refer 59 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: to generations and for other generations to be like that generations. 60 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: The worst of all, you know, you got to name 61 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: the younger generations of the older generations that say they've 62 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: got no work ethic, they've got no sense of what 63 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: matters that you know that they haven't put in the time. 64 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: I know how all this goes, because it's great because 65 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: I'm actually, I may I call it a graybeard millennial. 66 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm an old millennial. So I get to look at 67 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: Jake at gen Z and say, you know, they just 68 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: expect it all to come so early, and they don't 69 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: want to put in the hours and you know all 70 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: that stuff. Right. I look at the gen Z kids 71 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: and I say to them, when I was your range, 72 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: I was going to school barefoot six feet of snow 73 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: with a walkman, and that walkman if you move too fast, 74 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: you know what happened. It would stop working until you 75 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: got those walkman with like the special thing on it 76 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: that you could move it and it wouldn't get messed up. 77 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: But you know what I'm talking about. You know, my 78 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: iPad shuffle would would just run out of juice so fast. 79 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: You have no idea what these smartphones. How lucky eugen 80 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: Z kids are. You get what I'm saying. We all 81 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: like to get off my lawn to the generation below us. 82 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: But I got to say this, Harvard Harris, these Harvard 83 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: Harris results are troubling. I mean you know Biden has 84 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: troubling polling results. But the country and in case you're 85 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: joining us, you didn't hear the first hour thirty four 86 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 1: percent approval for Biden. The country is having a bad 87 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: moment here with what the polling of the youth shows 88 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: us when it comes to Israel and Palatehola, here we go. 89 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: They send me the numbers here, Generation Y is nineteen 90 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: or which is millennials nineteen eight millennials sounds better, eighty 91 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: to ninety four, Generation Z ninety five to two thousand 92 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: and nine. Alpha is twenty ten to twenty four. Okay, 93 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: so soon there'll be Generation Beta and we'll have a 94 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: lot of fun with that. Eighteen t twenty four year 95 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: olds sixty percent of polled eighteen to twenty four year 96 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: olds and his Harvard Harris poll say that the October 97 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: seventh mass casualty terror attack on Israel can be justified 98 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 1: by Palestinian grievances sixty percent. This is appalling. It's honestly 99 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: troubling because to me, what it signals, what it symbolizes, 100 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: is a generation where I know it's just one poll 101 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: and it's just one issue, but it's a generation where 102 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: we can't count on the most basic moral clarity. I 103 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: don't see what could be more obvious to anyone than 104 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: what we saw as on October seventh as evil, and 105 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: nothing can justify that. There is no political grievance in 106 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: the world world and in world history that could justify 107 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: sending armed men into unarmed civilian settlements and have them 108 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: murder people, rape people, torture people, kidnap people, including babies 109 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: and little children. There is no grievance now or ever 110 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: that could justify those kinds of actions. And yet sixty 111 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: percent of eighteen to twenty four year olds are of 112 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: the mind that somehow that's okay. This is what we're 113 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: seeing on the college campuses as well. When you have 114 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: these these sometimes very rowdy pro Palestinian protests going on, 115 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: you see that there is a not only a lack 116 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: of moral clarity, but also a dangerous and delusional self 117 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: righteousness that often motivates these young people in their protests 118 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: and their their demonstrations. Now, of the numbers here in 119 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: the same poll, seventy nine percent support the ideology that 120 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: says white people are oppressors, and sixty seven percent say 121 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: that Jews are oppressors. This is this is the Harvard 122 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: Harris state over the weekend. That's exactly what I've been 123 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: telling you. The numbers align with what I've been saying. 124 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: Why is the left in this country so many of 125 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: these and particularly the younger generation left, Why are they 126 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: aligned with really with Hamas and not just even the 127 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: Palestinian cause. And this notion of a two state solution, 128 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: this is a fantasy. The two states you're so you're 129 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: going to when when Biden and Harris and others say, 130 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: you have to reward this kind of behavior on October 131 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: seventh by providing even more of a state. They've had 132 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: a state or something like it in Gaza, and it's 133 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: a hell hole and it's horrible. And one thing they 134 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: don't talk about very much is that when the Palestinian 135 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: people elected Hamas as their representative government in Gaza, Hamastin 136 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: went around murdering and executing the political rivals in its 137 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: seizure of power. You know, one vote, one time, that's 138 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: how they do things in Gaza. You know at some 139 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: point that people are responsible for the choices of those 140 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: they have empowered to make choices for them. I know 141 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: that can sound a bit harsh, but that is true. 142 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: That is a reality. And when you see these numbers, 143 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: what you really, I think can't escape is exactly the 144 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: analysis that I've been giving you here from the beginning 145 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: of this which is that it's not in America. In 146 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: the Muslim world, it is anti Semitism. Okay, in the 147 00:08:54,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: Muslim world, it is about Jews. That is where hatred 148 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: comes from. And you see this, I mean the amount 149 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: of and those of you who were you know, military, 150 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: you know exactly I'm talking about. In Rock Afghanistan, they 151 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: would always refer to like special operations or anybody national 152 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: guards say, oh, they're doing the bidding of the Jews 153 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: and all this stuff. I mean, the Jew hatred by 154 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: Jihattist radical Muslims was talked about on the battlefield, it 155 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: was in their propaganda. I mean, it was everywhere for them. 156 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: It's about Jews and that true sort of historic and 157 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: present anti semitism in this country. The imbeciles you see 158 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: marching on campus and who are saying, you know, yeah, 159 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: like free Palestine and like Israel's an oppressor and stop 160 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: the genocide. They think it's white Jews who are oppressing 161 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: brown Palestinians. It is white on brown oppression, and that 162 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: is the only thing that they have to see in 163 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: their minds. That's the only thing they have to know 164 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: in order to make a moral judgment on this whole thing. 165 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: And what you see is actually it's really a religious belief. 166 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: Unto itself. Anti racism is basically a religious belief now 167 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: because it supersedes everything else, any other logic, any other context, 168 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: anything else that you could bring to bear, anti racism 169 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: goes to another level. Anti racism is the most important 170 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: single thing that you can take into consideration, right, And really, 171 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: anti racism is just a way of saying white people 172 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: are wrong, that's or bad and oppressive. And this is 173 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: how you can have such an overly simplistic and morally 174 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: obtuse opinion from so many young people when it comes 175 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: to the Israel Palestine issue, which they know nothing about. 176 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: And on the one hand, like so many things, it's 177 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: enormously complex and complicated historically, but really morally and ethically, 178 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: it's actually quite straightforward. And I would agree. You know, 179 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: Bill Maher had some pretty good moments on this one night. 180 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: I'll come back and I'll play. He said some stuff 181 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: over the weekend, believe it or not, on Israel that 182 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: was very sound. He even did what I do, which 183 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: just point out you can do this for all of history. 184 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: You can say that you're never going to move ahead 185 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: or move forward, and hold yourself out as some kind 186 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: of martyr or hero depending based upon what happened five 187 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: hundred years ago, and do things to people today who 188 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: have not wronged you because of what was done hundreds 189 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: of years back by people who share your your basic 190 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: skin tone. Oh, this is something we need to dissect 191 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: some more and discuss, and we will. Eight hundred two 192 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: two eight a two. We've got a friend on this program. 193 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: Dutch Mendenhall, an entrepreneur and a real estate investor. Dutch 194 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: has introduced thousands of individuals to a way of looking 195 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: at alternative investment vehicles, which are very capable of providing 196 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: great returns. 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In 206 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: his book, he'll give you his strategies to use debt 207 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: to your advantage and tap into lucrative alternative investment vehicles 208 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: to redefine your American dream. Get ready for the redefined 209 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: American dream with the rad dot Com Sanity in an 210 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: Insane World the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. So 211 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: I sent the team, as promised, a photo of the 212 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: furry little elf that is nipping my feet when I'm 213 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: doing a radio show. Here, a little ginger and right 214 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: now she's being pretty calm. She's great, she's great, she's 215 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. But she does like to nibble 216 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: and she has sharp little teeth. But I'm bringing this 217 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: up because we know we have so many dog and 218 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: cat lovers in this audience, and we wanted to take 219 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: a moment here to say you can put your pets 220 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: on social and tag Clay and Buck and and we'll 221 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: start putting some of them up on the website as 222 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: well at Clayanbuck dot com. So at Clayanbuck on Twitter 223 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: or I guess on Instagram as well. Guys, same deal 224 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: and Clayandbuck dot com will put some of them up 225 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: because we're putting up a little ginger photo she is. 226 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: She is here with me making sure that I stay 227 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: on just the facts and just the news. 228 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: You know. 229 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: She doesn't want any digression. She's very she's very specific 230 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: about her radio content, you know, and so I've got 231 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: to keep her well informed, make sure she's a happy, 232 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: happy little pooch. We've got some vip emails as well. 233 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: Speaking of Clayandbuck dot com, let's get to this one. 234 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: Matt writes, fear of Trump is a major motivator for 235 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: Democrat voters and a campaign focus for Biden. If it 236 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: looks like Joe is falling behind in the polls, fear 237 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: of Trump increases, and Democrat voters are more likely to 238 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: get obsessed, motivated, and involved and show up. So, Matt, 239 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: what you're saying to me in this email seems to 240 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: be that you think that they're trying to increase turnout 241 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: by underestimating Biden in the polls, right, that that's the plan. 242 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: The only thing that comes to mind for me with 243 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: that as a possible theory here is usually I'm told, oh, 244 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: they're trying to depress turnout by make someone look weaker 245 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: in the polls, right, So you know, I think people 246 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: argue that one both ways, and there you go. Damon right, 247 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: Michelle Obama doesn't have to want the job because her 248 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: husband wants it. She would just be a figurehead. I mean, David, 249 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: I hear you. I've heard this theory, and if I 250 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: am wrong. If I am wrong, I will eat humble 251 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: pie on this one, no question, Okay, I will. I'll 252 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: tell everybody, Okay I'm wrong, But I just I don't 253 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: see it. I don't see it. You know. I can't 254 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: have steak bets with all of you out there because 255 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, I'd go bankrupt. But I really don't 256 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: think that this Michelle Obama plan is going to be 257 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: what they go with, you know. I really just think 258 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: that their plan is to use the Democrat apparatus to 259 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: the best of their ability to just push forward Biden 260 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: or Harris. You know, I think that people, you know, 261 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: for example, why would Harris be pushed aside for Michelle 262 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: Obama in this scenario? And people say, oh, because Kamala 263 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: Harris is not a good politician, right, She's not charismatic, 264 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: he's I mean, I've you know, Michelle Obama can deliver 265 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: a written speech, sure, but have you seen her on 266 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: the campaign trail? I mean, I have it. And when 267 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: I say that, obviously she was with Barack. But I'm 268 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: saying running as a candidate, handling questions sometimes even hostile 269 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: questions from the crowd. Now, maybe they cover the whole 270 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: thing with the most partisan touch imaginable. Right, Maybe they 271 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: decide that they're all well, well, of course they would, 272 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: and that's enough. But I don't really, I don't really 273 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: see it. I still think it's not going to happen. 274 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: Here. 275 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: You go, Clay and Buck. This is from Pete. I 276 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: just have a general observation. It drives me crazy that 277 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: elected office holders refer to their occupation as public service 278 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: while the rest of us have jobs there I feel better, 279 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, Pete, I get it. I would argue that 280 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: any job that is productive and honest and contributes is 281 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: a public service. Any job, so for the you know, 282 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: whether you're listening right now, you're a trucker, a doctor, 283 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: a hardware store owner, an employee at a Fortune five 284 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: hundred company. 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She knows only She's only allowed 318 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: to be in the radio studio when I'm here, because 319 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,239 Speaker 1: otherwise she gets herself into lots of trouble. All right, 320 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: onto serious things, Onto serious things. I mentioned the Bill 321 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: maher clip and he gets into a bit of history. 322 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: I think it's important history for people to know, and 323 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: I think it's important to reframe a lot of the 324 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: context in which we have this, you know, Israel Palestine 325 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: discussion and debate, and people talk about, oh, they talk 326 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: about the last one hundred years or so, and they 327 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: don't talk about how this actually goes back a lot 328 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: longer than that. And when you have the full historical context, 329 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: I think it's much easier to come to a conclusion 330 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: that is well rooted insanity instead of what you're seeing 331 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: from these young people who overwhelmingly side with the Palestinians. 332 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: Here is Bill Maher speaking about a little town of Bethlehem, 333 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: Play thirteen. 334 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 3: I see a lot of Nativity scenes when I'm out, 335 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: as you always do before Christmas, and I can't help 336 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: thinking about where that manger really is. It's in the 337 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: West Bank, on Palestinian lands controlled by the Palestinian Authority. 338 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: In nineteen fifty, the little town of Bethlehem was eighty 339 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: six percent Christian. Now it's overwhelmingly Muslim. And that's my point. 340 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 3: Tonight things change to two point three billion Christians. There 341 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 3: can be no more sacred site than where their Savior 342 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 3: was born. But they don't have it anymore, and yet 343 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: no Crusader army has geared up to take it back. 344 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: Things change countries, boundaries, empires. Palestine was under the Ottoman 345 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: Empire for four hundred years, but today an Ottoman is 346 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: something you put under your feet. 347 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: It's all true. Everything he's saying here is accurate. And 348 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: as I've pointed out so many times in the past, 349 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: the entirety of what we now think of as Turkey 350 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: and much of the Near East would have been the 351 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: Christian Orthodox Byzantine Empire. But you don't hear people saying, 352 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, Turkey, give it back, or at least not 353 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: anyone that I know. You got to move on at 354 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: some point, because ultimately, if you remove people far enough 355 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: from what they have the ability to control, if you 356 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: try to hold people to account for actions that they 357 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: didn't do themselves and had no power to effectuate one 358 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: way or another, you're destroying the basis for morality, for 359 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: individual action, for true culpability, and for accountability. And so 360 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: that means you're never able to come to a moral 361 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: conclusion about this, because all you're left with is fights 362 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: over who was worse historically, or who did this or 363 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: who did that to whom one hundred years ago, five 364 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: hundred years ago. And for those who have been exposed to, 365 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 1: as I've said, to jihadist rhetoric in recent years, I'm 366 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: talking about the last decade or so, they still talk 367 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: about the in their propaganda pronouncements the loss of Andalusia 368 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: of Spain as some terrible calamity. They still believe that 369 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: any territory that has ever been a part of a 370 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: Muslim country or a Muslim empire should still be and 371 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: they have a right to violence, to effectuate violence in 372 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: order to achieve that goal. And I'm here to point 373 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: out that is insane. That is a theory of effectively 374 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: endless and endless war. And so Bill Maher points out 375 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: the history of this, and he also goes further and 376 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: talks about how if you're speaking of colonialism and conquests, 377 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: and I have to remind people of this frequently, much 378 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: of the Islamic world was historically a function of conquest. 379 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 1: Much of these Islamic world was spread by the sword. 380 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: This is Bill Maher in Clip fourteen, Play this one. 381 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 3: No one knows more about being pushed off land than 382 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 3: the Jews, including being almost wholly kicked out of every 383 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: Arab country they once lived in. Yes, TikTok Fans, ethnic 384 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: cleansing happened both ways. Nobody was a bigger colonizer than 385 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 3: the Muslim army that swept out of the Arabian desert 386 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 3: and took over much of the world in a single century, 387 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 3: and they didn't do it by asking. Is a reason 388 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia's flag is a sword. There were deals on 389 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 3: the table to share the land called Palestine in nineteen 390 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 3: forty seven, ninety three, ninety five, ninety eight, two thousand, 391 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, and East Jerusalem could have been 392 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 3: the capital of a Palestinian state that today might look 393 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 3: more like Dubai than Gaza. 394 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: Yes, again, a knowledge of the history here is useful 395 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: in understanding what's really going on. But I think that 396 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: what you see is the same mindset that has people 397 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: fighting over our own history here and wanting to position 398 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: it in a very specific context. Is the mindset that 399 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: is used to make people think the Palestinians are just 400 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: a suppressed minority who have done nothing wrong. In essence, 401 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: when you have people in this country that are advocating, 402 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: say for the New York Times a sixteen nineteen project, 403 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: and trying to present that as the true history of 404 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: this country, they do that so that America as we 405 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: know it today is tainted and should be thought of 406 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: as an oppressive state. And the only way to deal 407 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: with this is to hand power to those who buy 408 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: into this narrative to give them stuff, to give them power, 409 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: and it never ends. And you might sit there and say, well, 410 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: hold on, I didn't you know. I wasn't alive in 411 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: sixteen nineteen. I had nothing to do with this. I 412 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: know one alive today was touched by or was a 413 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: part of slavery in any context. So it's isn't it 414 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: unfair to hold this all responsible for this in some way? 415 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: And also how do you calculate? And this brings me 416 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: to a little bit of a discussion around this monument 417 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: they're saying, the Confederate monument that they're taking down in Arlington, 418 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: it's really a Civil war post Civil War reconciliation monument. 419 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: You look at this and you say, well, how do 420 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: you calculate the lives lost in the Civil war that 421 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: ended the institution of slavery? Is there is there any 422 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: credit given for that? You know, you start to look 423 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: at this and say, who is the arbiter of what 424 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: is enough historically for us to move on? And I 425 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: just think that unfortunately, in the case of Palestine specifically 426 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: and what we see going on right now in Gaza, 427 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: it's a failed society with a failed narrative and failed 428 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: attempts to bring the Jewish state Israel to its neees, 429 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: and so they're just desperate always to blame somebody else. 430 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: You know, Victimology and the rejection of accountability leads to 431 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: horrible things because you're not living in reality. You are 432 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: living by lies, right, you are refusing souls and eats 433 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: In's advice, which is to live not by lies. And 434 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: whether it's Hamas or overall, the Palestinian leadership in Gaza, 435 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: they are constantly living by lies, living by lies about history, 436 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: about their current intentions, about their actions, about the morality 437 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: of what they do, and their terror campaigns, and their 438 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: willingness to even be honest negotiating partners with the Israelies. 439 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: In any context. 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That's the Upside app in the app store. 477 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: Download it now and use my name Buck and you'll 478 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: get taken care of. You'll be saving money. Keep out 479 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: with the guys on this Sunday Hang with Clay and 480 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: Buck podcast, a new episode of Every Sunday. Find it 481 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: on the iHeart or wherever you get your podcasts. That's 482 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: one of my favorite Christmas songs. I'm just letting it 483 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: go a little bit there. Uh puts me in a 484 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: good Christmas eve. We'll have discussions later this week about 485 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: what is the best Christmas movie? And no, you will 486 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: not be moved to the front of the call qube 487 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: you say die Hard, which is a great movie, But 488 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: I mean it is technically a Christmas movie. Obviously. We 489 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: have gone over this million times, but it's not the 490 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: most family friendly and ho ho ho Christmas cheer kind 491 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: of movie obviously, although he does write ho ho ho. 492 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: Now I have a machine gun too on someone. So 493 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: there is that we have Johan in Palm Beach Gardens 494 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: on the phone. Johan, I am told you are a 495 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: former tennis star. 496 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 4: Well bucket's as an honor and a play to be 497 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 4: on with you. Thank you very much. Yeah, I'm sitting 498 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 4: here in my car. Every day I drive to Boca Raton, 499 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 4: where I have one of my businesses, and I listen 500 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 4: to talk radio. So yeah, I have become a political 501 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 4: junkie the last thirty five years, especially post South Africa, 502 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 4: which is my country of birth. I've become a United 503 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 4: States citizen by naturalization in nineteen eighty two. 504 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: I've lived most of my life in Florida. 505 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 4: It is absolutely astonishing for me to have seen how 506 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 4: the parallels between the demise of my country of birth economically, morally, socially, 507 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 4: the fabric of what's happened post Mandela and what. 508 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: Is happening in the United States. I've been saying for. 509 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 4: Many years that South Africa is really the Canarian coal mine, 510 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 4: so to speak, as it relates to all of this 511 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 4: stuff that has happened two decades after what has already 512 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 4: happened in South Africa. So I follow a lot of 513 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 4: my friends from South Africa have moved around the world, 514 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 4: left South Africa, many have stayed. 515 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: I still have family there. 516 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 4: But I'm very close to the pulse of what's going 517 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 4: on in South Africa economically, politically, socially, and. 518 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: It's an absolute basket case. 519 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 4: But somehow the resiliency of those people in that country 520 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 4: now it's both black, white, pink, doesn't matter. 521 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: They're all trying to survive. 522 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: Happened, what's going on. By the way, I don't think 523 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: much many of the people in this audience, Johan understand 524 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: what's happening right now in South Africa doesn't get much 525 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: news coverage at all. 526 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 4: It is the saddest thing to see how the American 527 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 4: press completely ignore world events. 528 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: That are happening very far away. 529 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 4: And yeah, so you know, there was a very very 530 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 4: smart guy but the name of Hendrick vander Beil that 531 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 4: in the late eighteen hundreds and early nineteen hundreds was 532 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 4: basically on par with the Teslas of the world, the 533 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 4: JP Morgan's of the world. 534 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: He was an incredibly smart guy. 535 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: He was an engineer, and he ended up in Massachusetts 536 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 4: further his career and then decided no, he doesn't want 537 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 4: to stay in the United States and he went back 538 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 4: to South Africa in the late nineteen ten nineteen twenties 539 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: and started the infrastructure for the grid, the electrical grid. 540 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: And there is a company that. 541 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 4: He started was called Eskam e SKom, and he didn't 542 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 4: take it privately. He could have been a multi trillionaire 543 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 4: by now, like an Elon Musk even maybe Richard, but 544 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 4: he ended up making it so that it would be 545 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 4: for the country of South Africa. 546 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: And he was a white guy. And so ESCAMB. 547 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 4: Became the grid for electricity and we were so big 548 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 4: that it was one of the four biggest most profitable 549 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 4: companies in the world in the nineteen fifties. And today 550 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 4: Escamb was nationalized the A and C Party with his 551 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 4: now Nelson mandelas party. And by the way, Nelson Mandela 552 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 4: will probably turn in his grave if he knows what's 553 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 4: going on. But it is now a nationalized company that 554 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 4: has become one of the most amazing thefts in the 555 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 4: history of the world in terms of how many syndicates 556 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 4: are involved with Escamb. 557 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: Because ESCAM used to be able to. 558 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 4: Provide electricity as far as Egypt from South Africa. 559 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: That's five thousand miles. 560 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 4: And now we can't even we can't even provide electricity 561 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 4: for every city or town or village in in in 562 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 4: South Africa. 563 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 2: So well, what happened something? 564 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 4: Now they have something called load shedding. Oh, it's decades 565 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: post Mandela of of theft mismanagement. There was a white 566 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 4: guy that was the CEO of ESCAMB. He had to 567 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 4: flee the country because they tried to poison him because 568 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 4: he was outing all of these criminal syndicates in Escamb. 569 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 4: And his name is the writer and he's actually living 570 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 4: in the United States. Now he had to leave, he 571 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 4: had to leave the country. They were going to kill him. 572 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: So what is similar what's the similarity Johann that you're 573 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: seeing with the with the collapse in South Africa you're 574 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: seeing here, I mean, give me some some concrete examples 575 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: for this audience. 576 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 4: Well, to give you a con I grew up as 577 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 4: a farmer in South Africa. So I'm the offspring of 578 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 4: a boor a b oe Er, which is it's farmers. 579 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 4: And so I grew up speaking Zulu because. 580 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 2: My parents were sugar farmers. 581 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 4: So incidentally, if I want to smell like I'm back home, 582 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 4: I drive in to Cluist and smell that sugar cane. 583 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: That's been burnt here. That's another situation. 584 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 4: But the fact is that these leftist ideology politicians that 585 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 4: get into power very similar to what happened to Mandela 586 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 4: and what happened to Cyril Ramaposa, which is typically now 587 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 4: the South African president, absolutely useless for the country, absolutely useless. 588 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 4: The A and C Party is just theft. It's just 589 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 4: incredible theft by these cronies. And so I see the 590 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 4: same parallels in America. And that's not just in politics, 591 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 4: it's also the moral corruption and the social fabric of 592 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 4: how people are being dispersed and being divided and how 593 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 4: everything is the white man's fault basically, and it's just 594 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 4: it's it's grinding for me to see how the parallels 595 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 4: in South Africa and Zimbabwe is rearing its ugly head 596 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 4: here in America, which I never thought I would. 597 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: Say ever in my life. 598 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 4: I've been here now since nineteen seventy eight, as a 599 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 4: nineteen year old that arrived in America and made. 600 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 2: A life of myself out of two hundred and. 601 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,959 Speaker 4: Thirty dollars I had in my wallet. And the fact 602 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 4: of the matter is, you got to just go on 603 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,479 Speaker 4: YouTube and listen to what Joe Biden as a young 604 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 4: congressman said about the South African government, which was white 605 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 4: controlled back in the seventies and early eighties, and what 606 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 4: he said about the africaner and the whites in South Africa. 607 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 4: It's all of this feel good leftist ideology policies, the 608 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 4: pressure from all divestment in the colleges in America has 609 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 4: sped into this narrative that every white person in South 610 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 4: Africa is a bastard and an oppressor. And it's nowhere near. 611 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: That simplicit, that's simplistic. 612 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 4: It is a very complicated situation. 613 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 2: And by the way, you know where the word I mean. 614 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 4: I see all these horrvard and the apartheid words as 615 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 4: a word in Afrikaans that means separateness, Okay. I see 616 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 4: apartheike banners at the Harvard University mit Pend And I 617 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 4: follow the news like a hawk, and I listen and 618 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 4: I read a lot, and it's sad to see how 619 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 4: they are using that word to smear Israel as well. 620 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,959 Speaker 1: Johann, we have to leave it there. That's Johann Creek, 621 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: who was the Australian Open Australian Open champion in eighty 622 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: one or eighty two by the way. So international tennis 623 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: star listens to the show and had some really interesting 624 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: things to say. More tomorrow, Team, I'll talk to you then.