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Speaker 1: Tour announcement starts now. Hello everyone, it is me Sam

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Speaker 1: and I am going on tour this summer. I'm doing

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Speaker 1: my hour of incredible stand up comedy and I would love,

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Speaker 1: love love to see you there. So I will be

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, DC, Boston, Philly, and

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Speaker 1: maybe a couple more. But if you are in any

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Speaker 1: of those places, please please please get tickets. I would

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Speaker 1: love to see you all there. And I'm really really

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Speaker 1: excited because I love touring. Now, so see you there, okay,

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Speaker 1: ANDREI yep. Bye. Podcast starts now. What is up everyone

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Speaker 1: around the globe? We are in New York City.

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Speaker 2: If you can believe it, I said start, and then

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Speaker 2: you started, and I was like, hold on, I was

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Speaker 2: not ready at all. Wow, classic, Well I feel amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's the day after your big show. Well, not your

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Speaker 2: big show. Let's be honest. It was not a big show. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of a workshopping show at Union Hall.

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Speaker 1: I'm in my casual era when it comes to shows.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're in the workshopping era of course, and then

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Speaker 2: you're going to hard launch the hour when you go

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Speaker 2: on tour.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is what's happening. But it is funny because

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Speaker 1: I'm being so casual. I am working it out, but

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Speaker 1: I'm like the way that I'm like being chill is

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Speaker 1: kind of concerning. You said this last.

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Speaker 2: Night, and I don't want to keep bugging smoke up

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Speaker 2: your ass. But as someone who has seen you be chill,

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Speaker 2: like when we were touring together, I'm like, every joke

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Speaker 2: has a new ending, and you have like added things,

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Speaker 2: full on transitions to take from one thing to the other.

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Speaker 2: There was new stuff, there was an ending that made sense.

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Speaker 2: I was impressed.

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Speaker 1: Wow, well I'll take it.

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Speaker 2: And it was like tradition. It wasn't There was no multimedia,

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Speaker 2: there were no songs, not that I would be against that,

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Speaker 2: but I'm just saying it was like a full hour

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Speaker 2: stand up Louisa K style.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going Luisy K mood.

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Speaker 2: We both are weirdly formally reactionary, not content wise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me more.

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Speaker 2: I think we both weirdly have reacted against the alt

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Speaker 2: style of comedy and are like, Okay, we're back to

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Speaker 2: like wearing like a black crew neck sweatshirt and jeans

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Speaker 2: and converse and no moving barely, like you can take

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Speaker 2: the stool and do the act out of you fucking

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Speaker 2: the stool. But that's it.

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Speaker 1: Well, it was almost like I saw like we built

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Speaker 1: a new world with anyone can do anything they want.

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Speaker 1: You can be so crazy, you can do play a track,

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Speaker 1: you can be so weird. Yeah, and then you saw

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Speaker 1: it in the wrong hands and you were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Woa,

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Speaker 1: We've got to put a stop to this. No, completely

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Speaker 1: have to show them the way. You have to learn

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Speaker 1: the rules first and then you can break them.

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Speaker 2: Well, you have to learn figure drawing before you can

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Speaker 2: be Marina Bramovitch exactly. And a lot of people are

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Speaker 2: coming out there and they're saying, the artist is present.

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Speaker 2: I said, let's see your resume. School did you go to?

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Speaker 1: Where's present? Where's the work?

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Speaker 2: Where is the work?

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Speaker 1: That being said, I did do one multimedia thing last

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Speaker 1: night that which is not that's true. Well, I woke

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Speaker 1: up yesterday morning and I said, you know, what's the

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Speaker 1: funniest thing I could possibly do? Is like they introduced

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Speaker 1: me and then I play a full minute of Madonna's

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Speaker 1: I Feel So Free before coming out on stage, and

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Speaker 1: people will be like, they'll stop clapping and they're still

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Speaker 1: hearing it and they're like, so whncy coming out? I

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Speaker 1: could not stop laughing, and then I did it. I

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Speaker 1: but I was loving it.

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Speaker 2: Well, you could have come out dancing or something, but

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Speaker 2: I said, you came out normally and then you said, Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's enough.

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Speaker 1: Cut the track that was That was all Boots was

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Speaker 1: just play the song and not do any people people

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Speaker 1: started you could see them like peaking, like I was

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Speaker 2: Well, I was also like, oh, there's like a song element.

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Speaker 1: No, not even clothes. I just woke up that day

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Speaker 1: and said, I think this will be funny, which, by

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Speaker 1: the way, of course I do like that song. Now

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Speaker 1: I know this will be coming out and this episode

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Speaker 1: will come out in roughly one month.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, by knowing, she could have released a new

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Speaker 1: I hope shut down. Yeah, I can't you just improvise that? No,

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Speaker 1: I actually think this song is so genius and I've

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Speaker 1: decided that I'm all in on confessions too.

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Speaker 2: You see her video with Anna Wintour I did.

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Speaker 1: I didn't quite understand. I was so confused.

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Speaker 2: The Devil Worst Product industrial comp By the way, I

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Speaker 2: enjoyed the film, but the Devil was hard industrial Complex

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Speaker 2: were basically everything a lah wicked. Everything is kind of

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Speaker 2: spawned for Devil Worst Product. It's like the Madonna album

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Speaker 2: is kind of spawned for Devil Worst PRODUCTU because she did.

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Speaker 2: She took advantage of the buzz of the film to

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Speaker 2: do a video with Anna Wintour where people are walking

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Speaker 1: I'm also like, Anna Windour enough, hell are you? Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you like actual a worker? Are you like just

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Speaker 1: an actor that plays Anna Wintour? Like? At some points

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Speaker 1: it's weird.

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Speaker 2: Well, not just that, but do you know she passed

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Speaker 2: Vogue on to her successor, uh huh. But then the

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Speaker 2: successor is not named editor in chief, She's named director

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Speaker 2: of visitorial Operations or something. And then Anna Wintour has

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Speaker 2: a different job that is still above her, and her

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Speaker 2: office is next to her, and she was just on

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Speaker 2: the cover of Vogue. I'm kind of like Anna, She's

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Speaker 2: white knuckling, hanging onto the rock climbing wall. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: you gotta let go. There is a rope.

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Speaker 1: There's a rope. I mean, she's honestly being jae LEENO.

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Speaker 1: She is, and she's not letting go. She's like, I

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Speaker 1: give up, and then she's like, but I will stay forever. Well,

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Speaker 1: she's also like, I give up. Watch me being interviewed

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Speaker 1: by my successor about my legacy. I do think the successor.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how long it took Anna to find

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Speaker 1: her look, but the successor does need a look. Right now,

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Speaker 1: you're just normal girl.

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Speaker 2: But I sort of think I've thought about this quite

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Speaker 2: a lot. She has, I think made the decision that

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Speaker 2: her thing is gonna be I'm relatable and I'm not

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Speaker 2: a winterer because it's which, by the way, obviously I

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Speaker 2: she was like, my thing is literally like knee length

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Speaker 2: black hair. I'm I'm also doing a big look. It

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Speaker 2: would it would. She couldn't quite pull it off.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I know what you're meaning. But then I'm sort

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Speaker 1: of like, well, then she shouldn't be hired, Like we

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Speaker 1: who's been working on their look for the last decade

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Speaker 1: as well as working on publishing.

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Speaker 2: It's complicated because I think the two options to me

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Speaker 2: are like, either go full look, I am an influencer.

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Speaker 2: I am gen Z and a Winter. I mean she's

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Speaker 2: not gen Z in offense, but I'm like young and

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Speaker 2: a wintur.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Or have it be like this is a return to substance.

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Speaker 2: We're going back to the Vogue that published Joan Didion.

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Speaker 2: I'm like bookish and serious and I'm blazer Blazer Blazer,

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Speaker 2: and I'm hiring, you know, Pulitzer Prize when to write

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Speaker 2: about the fashion shows. But it's sort of like neither

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Speaker 1: Just there's like no, there's no choice being made. Yes, maybe,

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Speaker 1: but that could be an uneducated answer.

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Speaker 2: I actually don't think it is. Did you see that

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Speaker 2: Adrian Grenier did a ad for Yarlsberg referencing, of course,

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Speaker 2: Devil Product one. He's not in the second film, by

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Speaker 2: Or I don't actually think he did. I just think

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Speaker 1: That would be awesome. I'm surprised he's not brought back.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know you haven't seen the film yet.

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Speaker 2: I would say there's barely enough for the new love

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Speaker 2: back the old one.

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Speaker 1: Well, because they're too busy. Critique of the the industry,

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Speaker 2: The love story is such an afterthought that they literally

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Speaker 2: shot the whole movie and then they're like, wait, fuck,

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Speaker 2: it's supposed to be a rom cop and they like

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Speaker 2: added this Australian guy and his entire personality is that

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Speaker 2: he's a real estate developer but not evil but also

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Speaker 1: Real estate developer for good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's not for good, it's like for neutral.

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Speaker 2: He's sort of like he's like he's like, it's fine,

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Speaker 1: It's like Sandra Bulk and Ai. It's like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So today we're doing one of our classic Collin shows. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we were going to do the things of the summer.

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Speaker 1: But then I was like, it's not summer enough yet,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know. The thing with us when it

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Speaker 1: comes to cultural critique is it comes from a very

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Speaker 1: we know what people will be wanting this summer. And

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Speaker 1: until I feel that the warmth on my skin I'm

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Speaker 1: not feeling and that crave to be in a pool.

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Speaker 1: Only then can I really see what is coming for

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Speaker 1: the summer. I can.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually feeling very noncommittal in a Vogue New editor

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Speaker 2: in Chief kind of way where I'm kind of like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess put Anna on the cover.

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Speaker 1: Even today, it's like a sunny, sixty five sixty day

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Speaker 1: in New York, and I was like, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: out and walk around and probably get a manic rush.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're gonna say manicure, but come on.

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Speaker 1: I walked around and I was like, everyone's still in

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Speaker 1: like little jackets. Yeah, And I was like, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: not quite feeling it yet.

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Speaker 2: I don't really have been edged summer. This is gonna

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Speaker 2: this are going to be melting on the park being

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Speaker 2: like I wish I was wearing a jacket, right, right, right,

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Speaker 2: But we are in the kind of month and a

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Speaker 2: half road map not roadmap, road literally to summer, and

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Speaker 2: surely there's an it's not happening.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not happening. But also it makes it hard

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Speaker 1: to plan for summer. I think for both of us,

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Speaker 1: we're potentially bad at this because until we are struck

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Speaker 1: by the summer feeling, I can't make a plan for

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Speaker 1: what to do over the summer.

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Speaker 2: Okay, This actual is similar to how get ready for this.

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Speaker 2: This is similar to how campaigns in America, for like

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Speaker 3: Yes, Hi, George and Sam. First time caller, longtime listener.

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Speaker 3: I listen to your podcast every morning on my bike.

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Speaker 3: Ridn't work, and it is really fabulous.

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Speaker 1: Fight, Why are gay guys doing urban planning?

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Speaker 2: This word? Do we even begin Well, first of.

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Speaker 2: What you want them to be farmers ladies. So guess what.

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Speaker 2: Definitely because it's architects is vertical.

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Speaker 1: Well, architects is vertical, but urban planning you get to

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Speaker 2: Good, sounds like something we're gonna want to do. That's

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Speaker 1: And then you're like you look into how to do it,

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Speaker 1: Not there. Well, urban planning you can also disguise as activism,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like how some people are public

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Speaker 2: But yeah, with urban planning, it's tough because I'm also like,

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Speaker 1: That's true. So do you think a gay guy was

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Speaker 1: That's tough. I mean, I'm realizing now the similarities between

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Speaker 2: Oh. Completely, it's everyone has projects and development. Everyone's like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because everyone that we know actually is indeed in entertainment,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you know what it's like to tell a joke?

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Speaker 2: Hello? Hello? Anyway, I would love to learn what an

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Speaker 2: And lie, or like imagining like what you would say? Well,

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Speaker 2: So you want to talk less, you want to deflect?

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Speaker 2: Kind of okay, God, I got it. I want people.

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Speaker 2: I want everyone to know I wrote the big column

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's so interesting. You crave the controversy.

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Speaker 2: I crave being a sort of niche figure. That's correct.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Okay, next call. Wait, I'm also.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bring it back.

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Speaker 2: There's something about the scale of urban planning. It's much

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Speaker 1: It's got complex, that's not right.

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Speaker 5: Hi, guys, longtime listener, first time caller. The question I

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: That's really all I had today.

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Speaker 7: Thanks, guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm pulling up the entire cast list and I guess

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Speaker 1: We are the biggest stands of Oppenheimer in the LGBTQ

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Speaker 2: I've been wanting to do a bit rewatch, even in

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Speaker 1: Well, that scares me.

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Speaker 2: I'm scared to watch Inception because I hated it so

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Speaker 1: And I sometimes when things are bad, I get I

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Speaker 2: See I think, but then like, the cool opinion is

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Speaker 2: My fear is that I'm going to go in being

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Speaker 2: Well, honey, you are not hanging out with sort of

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Speaker 2: edged lord culture writers. I'll say I have not rewatched

437
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Speaker 2: the Batman movie since they came out. I've never seen

438
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Speaker 2: The Prestige, I've never seen Memno, Believe it or not.

439
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Speaker 2: And I've always wanted to see Insomnia because it's one

440
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Speaker 2: of Robin Williams's classic dramatic girls.

441
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Speaker 1: I've never seen Insomnia or Memento.

442
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Speaker 2: But wait, so you hate it Interstellar or inception Inception? Ok, okay,

443
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Speaker 2: let's just rewatch. Oh and I also like, didn't really

444
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Speaker 2: care about Dunkirk, but it's not for me.

445
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

446
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Speaker 2: So the cast is pretty much Matt Damon as Odysseus,

447
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Speaker 2: Tom Hollins, and Dea Elliot. Elliott Page does not have

448
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Speaker 2: what character he's playing, go off and Halfaway, Robert Pattinson,

449
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 2: John Bernthel, Benny Saftie, Mia Goth Charlie's Throne, Travis Scott. Oh, okay, wow,

450
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Speaker 2: Lupita nyonggo.

451
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Speaker 1: Well basically we're thrilled.

452
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have just I know I'm being sort of

453
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Speaker 2: baited into expressing some opinion that these people are in Greek.

454
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Speaker 2: I don't care. I think this movie needs movie stars.

455
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Speaker 2: It's a Christopher Nolan epic. I don't think you need

456
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Speaker 2: to put sorry Nea Verdalos as a female.

457
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe is that even a controversy anywhere.

458
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Speaker 2: Well, here's the complicated thing with Greek culture is that

459
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Speaker 2: it's very easy for it to become right wing and

460
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Speaker 2: racist in the wrong hands, because people are very much

461
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Speaker 2: like remember ancient Greece when everything was white and when

462
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Speaker 2: real culture was happening, unlike now right And it's very

463
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Speaker 2: challenging to avoid that. And so I think oftentimes it's

464
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Speaker 2: the only casting controversies where the people mad about the

465
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Speaker 2: casting are actually not woke. Sure, and I don't want

466
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Speaker 2: to be part of that.

467
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Speaker 4: Well.

468
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Speaker 1: No, it's sort of like when people get mad at

469
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Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings for having Yeah, It's like it's

470
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Speaker 1: a movie, Yeah you can, you can have relax. Yeah.

471
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Speaker 2: So no, I think that at Christopher Nolan honesty should

472
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Speaker 2: be the biggest movie stars on the planet, Like I

473
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Speaker 2: think it should be Matt Damon and Ann Hathaway. I

474
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Speaker 2: think it's great that it's Robert Pattinson. Obviously Tom Holland

475
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Speaker 2: I'm like, let's see what he can do.

476
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Speaker 1: He does scare me nothing but love to him. I

477
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Speaker 1: hope that he does an amazing job. But I mean,

478
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Speaker 1: he's fine as Spider Man, but so far, that's kind

479
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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 2: I know, I worry, I have fear, but I also

481
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Speaker 2: think Chrisopher Nolan was a great director of actor.

482
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Speaker 1: Of course he should cast us.

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Speaker 2: I would love for us to be like the you

484
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Speaker 2: know in The Hunchback of Notre Dame, the two like

485
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Speaker 2: statues that are sort of yeah, one of them stupid

486
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Speaker 2: and one of them fast. He's so good.

487
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would even settle just for like the they

488
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Speaker 1: all jump out of the Trojan horse and we're just

489
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Speaker 1: like in a window and we're.

490
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Speaker 2: Like, oh, no, one, everyone jumps out of the Chrodrean

491
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Speaker 2: horse and then it's silent and awkward, and then one

492
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Speaker 2: of us like farts. It's like, you guys, we said

493
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Speaker 2: be quiet. We're the silly ones and the ones. Yeah, okay,

494
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Speaker 2: I like that. I do hope that this film has

495
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Speaker 2: some comedic relief.

496
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Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't. I hope it's really dead serious.

497
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Speaker 2: Because of course that's the one complaint with Christopher Nolan.

498
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Speaker 1: It's like, what, I hope it's dead serious, and I

499
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Speaker 1: hope the female characters are even flatter than an Oppenheimer.

500
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Speaker 2: I know that everyone said the female characters were flatin

501
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Speaker 2: nppen Himer, but I think Emily Blunt did a really

502
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Speaker 2: good job. Remember when she didn't shake the hand. Yeah

503
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Speaker 2: she did a good job, but it was written so

504
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Speaker 2: totally because she was drunk. Yeah, well her job was

505
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Speaker 2: be drunk, don't shake the hand, and she ate.

506
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Speaker 1: Nailed it, Like looks at drunk she was.

507
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Speaker 2: I just I'm remembering now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it was awesome. No, she nailed it though.

509
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Speaker 2: I also think I will say, I think it's fun

510
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Speaker 2: that Mia goth is in it, and I think it's

511
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Speaker 2: any Staffie's playing Agamemnon. That's a fun choice. He's a

512
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Speaker 2: good actor. I agree, Wake it Up, Wake it TF up.

513
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm very excited for The Odyssey, and to

514
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Speaker 2: be quite honest, we talked about this when we did

515
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Speaker 2: the Who Weekly Patreon. I'm excited for this summer blockbuster season.

516
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Speaker 2: I'm like, between Odyssey, that Steven Spielberg movie where Emily

517
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Speaker 2: blancos yes, and Disclosure Day, I'm gonna be clack clack

518
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Speaker 2: clacking into the box office. I'll tell you that. And

519
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Speaker 2: then delaw is proud of too. I think it's gonna

520
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Speaker 2: be a good summer. I think it's gonna be an

521
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Speaker 2: amazing summer. John was almost in it. Oh wow, Oh

522
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Speaker 2: my god, Travis Scott in the Odyssey. I'm so glad

523
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Speaker 2: we live in the United States of America.

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Speaker 8: Okay, I get, guys A long time listening for some collar.

525
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Speaker 8: I listen to your recent conversation about the vibes in

526
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Speaker 8: Palm Springs, and I guess, as a virgo, I would

527
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Speaker 8: love a comprehensive or as comprehensive as possible, list of

528
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Speaker 8: all the gay vacations.

529
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Speaker 9: Boots and their vibes, and the pros and cons to

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Speaker 9: each of them.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about this because of course, summer's

533
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Speaker 1: just around the corner, and.

534
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Speaker 2: So of cour it's not here yet.

535
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Speaker 1: It's around the corner, but like most things around the corner,

536
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Speaker 1: you can't see them. Yeah, because they're around the corner.

537
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Speaker 2: Around the corner is actually such a sinister phrase if

538
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Speaker 2: you think about it, it's like, are we in? It

539
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Speaker 2: follows anyway, go on.

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Speaker 1: It's so close, but I can't see it. I just

541
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Speaker 1: have to trust that it's there.

542
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Speaker 2: I just poked my notes with my stock.

543
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, So someone was talking to me about

544
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Speaker 1: this that The Eagle on Friday night.

545
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 2: Uh huh, likely topic and place for it to come up.

546
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Speaker 1: They were saying, can you rank the places? And I'm

547
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Speaker 1: not going to do that, but because I don't want

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Speaker 1: to do judgment necessary, Yeah, at this stage, I'm going

549
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: to see if I can avoid it. Yeah, because generally

550
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm being too negative. Really in life,

551
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm being too negative.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so which ones do you love?

553
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Speaker 1: So I think the thing I guess I can start

554
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Speaker 1: up negative. Yeah. It stems of course from Palm Springs

555
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Speaker 1: because I, um, well, it's not for me. Yeah, it's

556
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Speaker 1: a retirement community and if you go with like a

557
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: good squad, it can be fun. But if you aren't

558
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Speaker 1: there with a good squad, you're just hearing sixty plus

559
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Speaker 1: year old men talk about taxes.

560
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Speaker 2: I just want to say, I think intergenerational friendship in

561
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: the LGBTQ plus community is so important, and I think

562
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Speaker 2: that we have to reach across the aisle. Rather you're

563
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 2: a kind of multi hyphen it perpetually up and coming

564
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: creator in your mid thirties, or a financial criminal who

565
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: also loves John Waters in his sixties.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, I, of course, you know, call me

567
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Speaker 1: a T shirt in a gift store because I think

568
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: old guys absolutely rule. But there's like something too. There's

569
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: like old guy pride in Home Springs, where they're like

570
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: mad at you for being in their space and you're

571
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, I'm just trying to have some

572
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: fun and they're like, don't talk to me. Don't talk

573
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Speaker 1: to me until you own a home.

574
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: They are gay guys at a toxic gay bar and

575
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Speaker 2: you are a woman entering, and they're like, that's not

576
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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, essentially that's what's going on. It just isn't for me.

578
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Speaker 1: But that being said, I always compare it to Fire Island.

579
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Speaker 1: I don't think you should compare it to Fire Island

580
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: because Fire Island is like one It's both secluded, relaxing

581
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 1: and party climby psychotic. Fireland was the first gay vacation

582
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Speaker 1: place I ever went. Was it your first?

583
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

584
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Speaker 2: No, I went to pe Town before I went to Ireland.

585
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: Okay, And so when I first went to Ireland, I

586
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: was like, first of all, I'm in heaven. But then

587
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Speaker 1: when I went to Peetown, I was like, oh, Fire

588
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: Islands like unique, Yes.

589
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: Fire Island is basically like a social experiment where at

590
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: some point it will be revealed that there it was

591
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 2: the government experiment, and people will die, and there were

592
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: cameras there the whole time, and the statistics that they

593
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 2: are kind of surmising out of it are not going

594
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: to be pretty and they are going to be used

595
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 2: for evil. It's too I'm not surprised that it is

596
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: very nostalgia based, Like it's very you know, polaroid photo

597
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: of an unmade bed and then it says Peter on it.

598
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 2: You know, it's not going to last, and it's in

599
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: fact sinking. Well, it's literally sinking. It's literally sinking, and

600
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: that's kind of the thing with Fire Island. It's also

601
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: it's very like Keith Haring T shirt and denim jacket cosplay.

602
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 6: Well.

603
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Speaker 1: One of the weirdest things about being on Fire Island

604
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Speaker 1: is when you see someone who is not in your

605
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: esthetic community. Yeah, because you're like, oh, everyone here is cool,

606
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: everyone here is the same, like New York style, right,

607
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: and then you just see like a random person from

608
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Speaker 1: DC and you're like, what's that happening here?

609
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: Okay, So Palm Springs is Old is social government social experiment.

610
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I am not family orient. Not family you

611
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: sometimes we'll spot one family there, but like there are

612
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: any services gay people to be weird.

613
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Pe Town is very family oriented.

614
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: Very family oriented. It's sort I like, which I like.

615
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: Pe Town was interesting. When I went there after Ireland,

616
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: I was like, huh, so straight people are here, but

617
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: they're not the focal point. And I was like, so

618
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: can I still be gay if straight people can see me?

619
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Speaker 2: Provincetown is a a straight community that is gay themed.

620
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's it, and it's nice. It's you don't

621
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: feel less transported as when you're on Fire Island, but

622
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: at the same time you do actually get to go

623
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Speaker 1: to a movie theater if it's rainy, which is huge.

624
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: Well, Provincetown is importantly in Cape Cod and so when

625
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: you're there, you are in Cape Yeah, but it's but

626
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: there's just like a slight twist, whereas Fire Island you

627
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: can't compare to anything Fireland. They said, we're we made this,

628
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: we three D printed this island, and it's just for

629
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Speaker 2: the most disgusting gig guys I've ever seen there all

630
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Speaker 2: in a k hole.

631
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Petown being so close to Boston gives it an

632
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: interesting little flare because it kind of reminds me like

633
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Speaker 1: I went to, of course college at the University of Virginia.

634
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: It's very freddy school. So being even vaguely into alternative culture,

635
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm the most punk rock person

636
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: honor KEM Gordon literally, and so I kind of feel

637
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Speaker 1: that when I'm in Petown as I'm like, oh, I

638
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: guess I'm like really really edgy.

639
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Speaker 2: I like that about Peetown. Yeah, no, yeah, I'm kind

640
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: of all in on pe Town these days. I do

641
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: wish there was a direct flight from let's say, the

642
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: you know two three stop that is righted by my

643
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: apartment to Peetown.

644
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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I would even travel to that

645
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Speaker 1: train stop.

646
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will go to like Penn Station. I'll

647
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Speaker 2: go to Penn Station. I'm happy to take the subway

648
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: to Pen Station if then I could get a direct

649
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: flight to Peetown. Yeah, because currently I think I've done

650
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: the research and it seems like there's no way to

651
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: get there from New York City.

652
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: And speaking of there's no flights on a Pen Station.

653
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: What the hell?

654
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there should be an airport in Penn Station.

655
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: We need one. No, every gay place is so hard

656
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: to get to and it's so crazy.

657
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: Well that's sort of the I mean, you know that

658
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: is the advantage of Fire Island is that it is

659
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: very close. Assuming everyone lives in New York.

660
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: Of course, I know. I'm actually like pretending that I

661
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: still live here through the fious conversation.

662
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so Palm Springs, Peetown, Fire Island. Are there any

663
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: other ones you want to show throw into the mix? Well,

664
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: I would want to throw in Zipolite of course, right,

665
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: which I've never been, which is heaven on Earth. I'm

666
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: happy to throw in miko Nos, which I have been to.

667
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: Oh I've never been.

668
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, the gay life a mikon Nos

669
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: is so unappealing.

670
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything I've heard about something like I'm imagining like

671
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: an active dump.

672
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: It's just it's really I can't get behind it.

673
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you know what in pul Spings, you're like

674
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: not allowed to play music outside?

675
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: Yes, you've told me that many times. I just I

676
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: think somebody needs to stop them. How is this allowed?

677
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: There's an'll have to go silent disco mode.

678
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: There's a whole town of theoretically gay vacationers not allowed

679
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: to play music. Outside in their pools.

680
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: You know what, though, the archetype of the like kind

681
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: of cranky old gay man wearing a little neckerchief, to

682
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: me is so such a vital part of our community

683
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: that I'm like, God, I would love to be in

684
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: Balm Springs and be yelled at by like an old

685
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: retired lawyer that issues turned down my Addison Ray mixed.

686
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: They're literally kicking you out of the airbnb. They own

687
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: the house, and they're kicking you out, and they're saying

688
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: go no, they own, they're renting out their airbnb. But

689
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: they're still there and they're watching. They're dropping in like

690
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 1: every few hours. They've got cameras set up.

691
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, are you going to clean the sink?

692
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: I was getting to it.

693
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: No, it's crazy.

694
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 10: Hi, Sam and George. I am calling because I was

695
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 10: really inspired by you know, like some reposted Tumblr whatever

696
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 10: that was, uh, something like the last few hours before

697
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 10: getting your hair washed is like you'll experience a depth

698
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 10: of misery only known by a Russian literature, something like that.

699
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 10: So I've just been kind of thinking a lot.

700
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 4: About the abject lately, and I was.

701
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 10: Trying to expend that to kind of my own life

702
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 10: and what I do agree with the hair washing thing.

703
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: My thought is.

704
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 10: A depth of misery that is unknown to anyone before me.

705
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 10: For me, is definitely like having them to listen to

706
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 10: like my husband's podcasts in his car, because they are

707
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 10: straight guys, like comedy guys, and they're not even like

708
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 10: the worst of the worst. They're regular there are kind

709
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 10: of like all guys. I won't see who they are

710
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 10: because y'all probably know them, but I mean just hearing

711
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 10: straight guys talking and trying to be funny is like,

712
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 10: it's like hell to me. And I am wondering if

713
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 10: y'all could say something in your life, like an everyday

714
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 10: occurrence or even just something in pop culture that makes

715
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 10: you feel like no one's ever felt as miserable as

716
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 10: you and I don't. I obviously don't mean real pain

717
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 10: or fear.

718
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 7: A thing.

719
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 10: All right, Love y'all so much.

720
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Speaker 1: Bye, amazing call.

721
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah that's a really it's a thinker.

722
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: First of all, still using tumblr go off.

723
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: Well, I like the idea of being like, I was

724
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: really inspired by some bullshit.

725
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: I think this. Well, you brought up something when you

726
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: were talking. It was called before If you want to

727
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: go first.

728
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 2: My instinct was just any and all paperwork. It's like,

729
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: and I obviously understand everyone hits paperwork. I don't think

730
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 2: I'm unique in this, but there is a part of

731
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: every single time I have to do any sort of

732
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: paperwork or logistical thing. A big thing for me is

733
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: because I'm not a org a dual citizen, I often

734
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 2: will have to go to the Greek constant in America

735
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: or the US Consulate in Greece to like do something

736
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: to make sure that all the paperwork is in order.

737
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 2: And each time I could die before finishing this task.

738
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 2: Like the idea of being in some sort of online

739
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: portal that you know was created in HTML in nineteen

740
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: ninety four and figuring out how it works and then

741
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: getting the confirmation and then going there and knowing that

742
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a crazy line and not knowing what

743
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: language you're going to it stressed me out so much.

744
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: The other thing is, you know, we are both freelancers,

745
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: and we're constant basically, like half for life is filling

746
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 2: out the same paperwork over and over again, but somehow

747
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: there's one thing that's different in each one.

748
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: It's so crazy now that I really agree with that.

749
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: I think I also panic with paperwork in a bad way.

750
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: The other one that you actually said before you, which

751
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: I think is genius, is dinner being late. But it's

752
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: not the way that I think about my day is

753
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: so I'm like, Okay, well this is going to take

754
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: an hour, and then I'll have fifteen minutes and I'll

755
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: do this. So then when like one thing misses off,

756
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I guess today's done. I ruined today.

757
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you're not flxible when it comes to food times.

758
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: You need to have your lunch at lunchtime and your

759
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: dinner at dinner. I'm trying to think of other things.

760
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 1: I have one. Another one that called made me think

761
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: of is when I'm in a bar where there are

762
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: sports playing and they have the volume on. The noise

763
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: of a sports game gives me an instant headache in

764
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: a way that I've never understood, And I'm like, what's

765
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: going on here? Because even you know, the idea of

766
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: being like go and watch the game like kind of

767
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: is like a fun idea, But hearing sports drives me insane.

768
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: The beating, the buzzing, the like rumble of a crowd,

769
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: the little commentator, the pattern they have. I'm like stop this.

770
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: You know, sports people are so lucky that there's this

771
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 2: thing that can always be in the background.

772
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, can you imagine if every single day

773
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: there was a new episode of drag Race and we

774
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: were just sort of like lazily talking about it.

775
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 2: For example, if we were really to soap operas, you

776
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, there's so many of them,

777
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: and they're constantly playing, and there's characters you keep up with.

778
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 2: Sports are non stop.

779
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: Well, the issue is we don't watch Housewives because I

780
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: stop as well.

781
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 9: Yeah.

782
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: And by the way, enough I know, I know enough.

783
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all all my examples for things that

784
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: make me feel horrible. It's literally when air travel is terrible,

785
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: you know, when you're stuck in an airport for hours.

786
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: You know. A big one for me is when I

787
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 2: and this is related to the hair thing, but if

788
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: I somehow don't have time to shower when I want

789
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: to shower, and then I somehow have to be like

790
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: out and about in a city and I can feel

791
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: that I'm not clean, I truly want to kill myself interested.

792
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of my most free That's that's when

793
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm Madonna. I feel so free.

794
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 7: Common from Washington, d C, gay city in America.

795
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: They don't apologize.

796
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 7: I was discovered Stradio lab at a tumultuous period in

797
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 7: my life last year where I've become friends with a

798
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 7: shocking number of straight men who I love dearly. But

799
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 7: I also lost two of my closest straight male best friends.

800
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 7: They in a major spot twist in my life. They

801
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 7: both came out to me at the same time. They

802
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 7: didn't know about each other either. No, they are not

803
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 7: having sex with each other, but the three of us

804
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 7: are still best friends. We're just all gay now. But

805
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 7: our recent topic of discussion among my friends that are

806
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 7: still straight men is a further debate about whether boneless

807
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 7: wings or bone in wings are gayer. And I was

808
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 7: surprised to find that my favorite podcast discussing the number

809
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 7: one topic in my life what is straight and what

810
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 7: is gay? I'm not delved into the topic of Wayne

811
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 7: for what's gay or boneus or bone in.

812
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: I do want to apologize to d C and the

813
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: DC community. I've, you know, met many a gay guy

814
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: from d C, and I whenever I go to d C,

815
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: I meet I meet gay guys. I go to the

816
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: gay bars, and I have a blast, And this is

817
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: what I was saying in life, I'm being so negative.

818
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: I can't not throw someone in the bus.

819
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'll work on it. Well, Well, I think

820
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: it's important to live in d C.

821
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: How so where it all began.

822
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: No, I think the issue with DC is that it

823
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: gets a bad rap because of the most evil people

824
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: that live there. But by definition, you know, every action

825
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: is an equal and whatever the fucking thing is the reaction.

826
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: All the most bleeding heart people that are trying to

827
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 2: you know, get the urban planning and check also live

828
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: in DC.

829
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: No, it's true.

830
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 2: It's true. They're obviously still socializing with like Kelly on Conway.

831
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: But what are you gonna do?

832
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so weird there. One time I went

833
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: It's like.

834
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: How we're sometimes in green rooms with people where I'm like,

835
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 2: so I've seen your set and it's like fully right wing,

836
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: but yeah, nice to see you.

837
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: One time I went to dinner in DC and sitting

838
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: across the way with Stephen Manuchin, oh fun, And I

839
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: was like, what is going on? And every time we

840
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: try to take a picture of him, someone would stand

841
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: in the way. Yeah, And I was like, let us

842
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: take a picture of him.

843
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of like when I, of course saw

844
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 2: nuking ridge. So basically, what is your take on bone

845
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: in versus boneless? And I would go so far as

846
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: to say, more broadly with all chicken rather than just wings,

847
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 2: because there's.

848
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: I think we should start with your let's so then potentially, now, okay,

849
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: I think when it comes to wings bone, here's where

850
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: it gets confusing. Is like bone in. You know, it

851
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: can be read as masculine. I'm doing this as God intended.

852
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm just covered and I'm just mad with the guys.

853
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: Just take my damning, and it could be seen as

854
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: feminine to be like I need the bone out and

855
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: I need to have it a specific way. But on

856
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: the other hand, it could also be seen as more organic,

857
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: e more like, oh this is like real chicken, Like

858
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: I actually got this really nice chicken, and so I

859
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: have these wings that are amazing, and so you want

860
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: the bone in. And that's more of the queer perspective,

861
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: whereas straight people are like, well, as long as it's

862
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: covered in the sauce, I don't really give a fuck.

863
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: And it's like you're eating chicken nuggets but they're covered

864
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: in the sauce, right, so I'm kind of confused and

865
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: not sure where i want to land.

866
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: And also bone in is more adult and bone less

867
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 2: is more maybe yeah, obviously yes, So it is obviously complicated,

868
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 2: as are many things. Here's what I'm struggling with. Bone

869
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: Less wings is sort of like vague to me. I'm

870
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: almost like, are you a tenders or a wings person?

871
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: Tenders I understand what that is, and tenders are boneless.

872
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: Sure you know what I mean? Yes, I would never.

873
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: I think to say I want boneless wings is a

874
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: little baby. But to say I want tenders, you're basically

875
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: being like, I do want boneless. But I'm also an adult.

876
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 2: So to say you want a boneless wing, I agree

877
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: with you that it's baby yeah, but is it baby

878
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: straight or baby gay?

879
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 9: Totally?

880
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 1: Is it like I'm such a little twink I can't

881
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: chew my bone or is it like I'm such a

882
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: like little like, uh, my wife has washed all my

883
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: clothes for the last decade, and I don't know how

884
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: to eat around a bone. I'll choke and die.

885
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: I think bone in is strength, okay, I mean right now,

886
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: Sometimes the obvious answer is the one.

887
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: That's ol COM's razor.

888
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: I think, yes, but I do think there's also horseshoe

889
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: theory where it's like, okay, get ready for this. On

890
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 2: the one end, straight guys bone in, then you go

891
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 2: into straight women and gay guys boneless, and then background

892
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: to queer, non binary, polyamorous bone in. You know what

893
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: I mean. So that makes it's kind of how I feel.

894
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: Okay, great, yeah, bone In.

895
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: Is and actually it's the same with it actually tracks

896
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 2: absolutely directly to Maha. It's like it is both right

897
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 2: wing and then also like California, clean living, sober totally

898
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 2: are many. Then you would sort of have to switch

899
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: out the straight women in the in the chart that

900
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: I mentally drew, but there's no time.

901
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: There's no time, it's been drawn.

902
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: I want chicken tenders. Interestingly, well, let's go to Julia's.

903
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: I want to so bad I can't. I'm went to

904
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: the gym after respect. Okay, next, next question.

905
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 11: First of all, you have a solid fitting number, which

906
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 11: which was confusing to me, so I wasn't sure if

907
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 11: this is right. But okay, so I'm calling because I

908
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 11: don't know if you guys have done something like this.

909
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 11: It's very much in your it's it's something that you

910
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 11: would have already done, but I'm not really sure. But

911
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 11: my roommates and I recently were discussing. I have one

912
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 11: roommate who loves Damielevada, and so we were discussing who

913
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 11: each of our dummies were. So dummy is like basically

914
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 11: an artist that you know is kind of a flap,

915
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 11: but you just love them no matter what. Similar Toada.

916
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 12: So, so if you left Demi Lovada, I like Marinada Diamonds.

917
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 12: My other roommate loves Camilla Kebeo.

918
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 11: So it's kind of like if someone who knows that

919
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 11: but they're also good. We were saying when my room said,

920
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 11: Kylie know, and we're kind of like no, But I'm

921
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 11: not totally sure why. I don't know how it's like

922
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 11: you to be you have to be kind of.

923
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 9: Died in a.

924
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 11: Commercial way almost all right, Well bye.

925
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: This is an interesting and difficult question. I'm scrolling through

926
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: your strong music because I'm not sure one is not

927
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: jumping out to me immediately. First of all, it's very

928
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: disrespectful to a little miss Demi.

929
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 2: It's disrespectful to pretty much everyone that was mentioned except

930
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 2: Sorry Marine and the Diamonds. Because I'm literally not no,

931
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 2: I'm not going to actually pile on Demi at all.

932
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 2: I'm not even going to say it's fair in any way.

933
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 2: And then I do think her latest album flopped, and

934
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: she will be the first to admit that, but.

935
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: But that's not If you listen to it, it's fun.

936
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: It's like really did what she was trying.

937
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 2: To know she was. It's very good and I think

938
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: it'll justice will come. Yes, I mean I do have

939
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: one that is like the most the most obvious, and

940
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: I'm such a flop for even going there, but I

941
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: do like the Rito Aura album Phoenix really yes. And

942
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: there's actually a song that only I like and it's

943
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: called new Look Wow. And actually it's not on this album, No,

944
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: it is. I found it. But for whatever reason, I

945
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: actually think this album is like pretty good top to bottom.

946
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's revolutionary, but it is like very enjoyable,

947
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: like in the car pop music. And one time I

948
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: played it while we were in the car with my

949
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: family and my dad was like, this is really good.

950
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: Wow.

951
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: I don't think she's ever reached those heights since then,

952
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 2: not that I've really been keeping up, but she's definitely

953
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: someone who is definitionally sort of always considered a flop,

954
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: but I actually think she is. But I think she

955
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 2: was doing something here and then just like never like

956
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 2: captured that moment again.

957
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: My greatest fear that's maybe coming true is you know

958
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,959
Speaker 1: how like it's like, do I have any original thoughts

959
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: or is it just that I believe what other people

960
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: tell me, Because honestly, when someone gets the stench of

961
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: flop on them, like true flop, I'm like, Okay, I'm

962
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: out because I'm like if people, if you're already fasting.

963
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: True, because you're never out with Gaga and she has

964
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: had the stensia flop on her on and off for years.

965
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: And obviously I wanted to name that one, but it

966
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: sounds like a cop out because now Gaga so beloved.

967
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: But I was standing Joanne harder than anyone ever has, and.

968
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: You were standing or sorry art pop when it came out.

969
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: I was an early art pop.

970
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: I will be completely honest and say I was in

971
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: the mainstream with art pop where I acknowledged it after

972
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: the conversation, I already come back around. The tough thing

973
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: with this question is that everyone that could be this,

974
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: like someone that could be this is Carlie Jebson, but

975
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: she's been. Really everyone has already been and Sam later honestly, yeah,

976
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 2: and same for Charlie.

977
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: Well, like if it were really four years years ago,

978
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: I could say Charlie and be like a hero.

979
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: Same with Kimpetres. Everyone that like was no there was

980
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: no one left to be reclaimed, basically like that. That

981
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: is kind of and that's one of the reasons why

982
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: gay guys are struggling in their cultural commentary and turning

983
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 2: to reality stars because they're like, Okay, so every bad

984
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 2: pop star has been reclaimed, every bad actress has been reclaimed,

985
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: every bad musician has been reclaimed. The only person I

986
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: have is this woman in this show who's famous for

987
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 2: like shitting on the street. And you're like, she ate that.

988
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: We are addicted to reclaiming people. Yeah, it's it's not right.

989
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: Sometimes we sometimes we need to look at the new

990
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: nice home and be like, let's just buy that one. Yeah,

991
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: Instead we look at the fixer upper and we say,

992
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: I want that one.

993
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: That is such a good point.

994
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, we have addicted to fixer uppers.

995
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: Someone that I I struggle sometimes with, well, okay, Katy

996
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 2: Perry is fully a flop. Currently, are you has this

997
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: stench of flop alienated you or.

998
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: No, though it's made me want to support her. Interesting,

999
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: and I've said this on record, I believe when I

1000
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: was an early hater of Katy Perry and obviously teenage

1001
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: dream is amazing, whatever, whatever, but I was still like,

1002
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: this girl's annoying and then like I was so mean

1003
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: about it, and she was like a punchline for me,

1004
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: and then everyone else also was like, Okay, she's annoying,

1005
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: we hate her. Yeah, and then I was like hold on,

1006
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: like let's be nice, and so it was like it

1007
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: it became too much of a pylon, and so then

1008
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: I was like, well, let's pull it back a bit,

1009
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: It's time to be nice to Katy Perry. And I

1010
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: still think it almost is like I want I'm wanting

1011
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: her to succeed. It's only fun to attack her when

1012
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: she's doing well, and like when she's in a flop era,

1013
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, we need to protect her, we need

1014
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: to support her and respect her, even.

1015
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: You know who had this stentra flop on her and

1016
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: almost made me become fully reactionary as grimes because I

1017
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: was always going to bring up crimes. I was kind

1018
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: of like when it, you know, obviously, and her personal

1019
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: life is, you know, a whole ass mess.

1020
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a whole as quote.

1021
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: Me on that that her personal life is actually a

1022
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: whole ass mess.

1023
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 1: It's a whole ass mess.

1024
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: That said, I will never stop believing Grimes as like

1025
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: a musical sort of visionary to quote herself and her

1026
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: album visions, and I'm I will always be interested in

1027
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 2: seeing what she is up to, just from a purely

1028
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: aesthetic artistic point of view, even if she's also like,

1029
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: by the way, I'm going to Mars and I'm raising

1030
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 2: my children there because I because I want a homeschool,

1031
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: and I want a homeschool.

1032
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: I she is someone that I at this point, she

1033
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: just feels like a close personal friend, and so I

1034
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: will of course always listen to whatever she puts out,

1035
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: but then I will be like this one, we have

1036
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: different ideals.

1037
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's not consuming the same media you're consuming.

1038
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: And she like almost doesn't like the things about herself

1039
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: that I do. Yes, and her old music versus her

1040
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: new music, it's like night and day right now. She

1041
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: wants just like the most polished, clean, overproduced things she

1042
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: could possibly have.

1043
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: Is that true? I haven't listened to the latest last.

1044
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: Well, honestly, the latest song I kind of love. I

1045
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: forget what it's called. Of course, it's like angel something.

1046
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 2: Of course Angel appreciate power. Yeah, yeah, yeah, equals one

1047
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 2: plus one.

1048
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've artificial Angel. No, is that what that might be?

1049
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: What it's called artificial Angels? Yeah, that song I kind

1050
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: of love in the video. I kind of like to, oh,

1051
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: I like the video.

1052
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 2: I know this, you know, I'll say this about Grimes

1053
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 2: and this is value neutral. She does evolve as an artist.

1054
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: A lot of other people don't much like Buyorke evolves

1055
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: as artist. I personally think a lot of Buyorke's most

1056
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: recent stuff sounds sort of like clanging pots and pans

1057
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: while symphony plays. But I think she is not resting

1058
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: on her laurels. She is trying to do something different. Yeah,

1059
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of people are doing that.

1060
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: And I don't know if this is relevant to the

1061
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 1: conversation at all, But as I was going through.

1062
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: My music, it was like, I know, I need to

1063
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: stop trolling.

1064
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: Well, I was like, also, like Chloe and Hallie, like

1065
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: I they're not flops at all. But I'm like, come, like,

1066
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: go back to doing music together, be fun again.

1067
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: But I sort of think unfortunately they're done. They have

1068
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 2: lost their way. Yeah, and I think it's because they

1069
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: were too young and they were too many people in

1070
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 2: the room were telling them what to do. Yeah, wait, Chloe,

1071
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: actually hold on, I'm going to find this song. I

1072
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 2: think it was Chloe. Chloe had a solo track. Is

1073
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: it literally just Have Mercy, which is her most famous song.

1074
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so good.

1075
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 2: The song is so good.

1076
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: No, it's crazy.

1077
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: Oh. Here's someone I will always stick up for, even

1078
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: when she's in a flop. Is what's her name?

1079
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: Amazing sentence?

1080
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 2: Just interesting, god, m.

1081
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: Oh god.

1082
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: Does a cat? Thank you? Wow, that's very impressive.

1083
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll see. I think she's she's always kind of

1084
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: so let's.

1085
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: Get an acting career going. I think she'd be great

1086
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: on screen. Okay, next question.

1087
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 9: Hi guys, my name is Ian and in addition to

1088
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 9: being a glamor girl, I'm a historian and I wanted

1089
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 9: to call your episode was Amy Zimmer. You guys are

1090
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 9: kind of pontificating about the quote, well behaved women really

1091
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 9: make history and the different things that it could be,

1092
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 9: and I wanted to chime in with my favorite funtact ever,

1093
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 9: which is that that quote was actually coined by a

1094
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 9: Mormon historian named Laurel factor l Rich, and her big

1095
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 9: point when she was thinking the quote was that we

1096
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 9: need to.

1097
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 13: Write more history about well behaved women, and that we

1098
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 13: ought not punish a woman for behaving well by like

1099
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 13: not making her go down in history. So it's sort

1100
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 13: of it's still a feminist take, but it's not exactly

1101
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 13: the one that it has become something to think about

1102
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 13: the podcast.

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00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 2: Isn't that so interesting?

1104
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: I actually think that's genius.

1105
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: It's so amazing, Like it's very like it's literally like

1106
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 2: the reality stars thing that we're talking abou totally. It's like,

1107
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 2: why are we rewarding these people for like taking a

1108
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: shit on the floor. Yeah, Like it's sign to start

1109
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: rewarding the person who is like polite, normal, Yes. And

1110
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,959
Speaker 2: it's actually like it's interesting that we immediately think well

1111
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: behaved is a negative thing, Like, yeah, well behaved is

1112
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: in the eye of the like a well behaved woman

1113
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 2: can be a woman that behaves towards social justice, that

1114
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: like does all the right things. Yeah, And yet it's

1115
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 2: we've interpreted it in the most honestly gay guy way

1116
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 2: of if you're boring, get the fuck out of the

1117
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: fuck out of my face. But if you make yourself known,

1118
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: let's talk.

1119
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, throw a drink in someone's face, Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

1120
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: this does sort of mess up my world. You, I

1121
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: must say completely, because I'm not sure what to do

1122
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: with it now, because i do use it as a

1123
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 1: justification for when I'm being bad, Yeah, or being being rude,

1124
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: or maybe talking badly about DC stuff like that.

1125
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say, you.

1126
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: Know, well behaved women rarely make history. And and but

1127
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: the problem is, no matter the point, both sides are true.

1128
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: It is true that you have to be bad and

1129
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: be sort of hated in order to be loved. And

1130
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: I think the person who originally said it is saying,

1131
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: doesn't it suck that well behaved women rarely make history?

1132
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: We need to celebrate well behaved women. But we're just

1133
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: taking it as like, well, you did point out a truth,

1134
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: which is that well behaved women rarely make mystery.

1135
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so fascinating. It's like pointing out how things

1136
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: are done. And there's two options. One is on a

1137
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: systemic level, changing the way history is written so that

1138
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: well behaved women are platformed, and the other one is

1139
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: sort of an individualistic approach of and actually like a

1140
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: sort of cynical approach of, like, well, this is how

1141
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 2: things are. They're never going to change. Might as well

1142
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 2: throw a drink in someone's face so I can make history.

1143
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 1: Of course, Well, it's also where you're changing. The way

1144
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 1: we describe history is groundbreaking, yeah, and completely impossible, because

1145
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: is that thing like the victors write the stories and

1146
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: how it's said, because someone like Jeff Bezos will be

1147
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: in history forever and ever and ever, because it was

1148
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: like he was the king of the world.

1149
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: To talk about not a well behaved woman.

1150
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: He's not an well beea woman at all. He is

1151
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: a badly behaved woman. And I feel that like, whereas

1152
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: like a guy who's like just like living his life

1153
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: and being like really having a tasteful career and like

1154
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: choosing a nice balance between family and job and being like,

1155
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll just get the one bedroom house.

1156
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't need to be a psychopath. He's not. No

1157
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: one's writing the chapter in the history book about him.

1158
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: I know it's true. But then, of course the obvious

1159
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: flip side of that, does well behaved mean just complicit

1160
00:56:55,160 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: and unambitious and even not courageous or brave.

1161
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: It just means there's something about we let's just like

1162
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: celebrate change no matter what.

1163
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: Yes, well, it goes back to I remember being when

1164
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: I lived in Silicon Valley, the big thing was changed

1165
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 2: the world, and it was always like, in what way

1166
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: is someone gonna everyone is changing? You can change the

1167
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: world by littering or by picking up litter? Which one

1168
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: are you doing?

1169
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 6: Well?

1170
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: This is like how like news isn't good for right

1171
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: now because they trying to be neutral is wrong? Like

1172
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: it's just incorrect because it's some plans are good, some

1173
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: plans are bad, right, and that you can sort of

1174
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: even talk to like a person in data or science

1175
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: who like can look at something and be like this

1176
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: is bad. So it's not good journalism to be like,

1177
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: I feel neutral towards this, and we almost need that

1178
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: with history where it's like this happened, Prince is bad,

1179
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: This happened Prince is good because right now it's just

1180
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: like we're just being like and this change stuff.

1181
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: And so you know, the right, the thing is that

1182
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: people writing the parentheses are not going to be the

1183
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 2: well behaved women they're let me do it. You're going

1184
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: to see that people that were unwell behaved enough to

1185
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: get to the history book writing, and they're going to

1186
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: be the one. They're gonna be the ones hacking into

1187
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 2: the main frame and saying parentheses bad about justice.

1188
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, Unfortunately, we need better elections. Basically

1189
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: is what this all comes down to.

1190
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 11: Woody Who's game of George?

1191
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 7: I love behind game or him lick Bud.

1192
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 4: It's commonly known.

1193
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 9: I've incorporated it into my own daily life to thank.

1194
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 13: You for that.

1195
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 6: I'm curious. I don't think you guys have done this

1196
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 6: one yet. As kind of famously, the two most crazed

1197
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 6: fans of the hits the Tom Modern family, which Him's

1198
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 6: sister would be each of the three core families. So

1199
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 6: you've got Phil and Player and the Dumpy kids exactly,

1200
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 6: Gloria and Nanny, and then of course you have iconically

1201
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 6: Cam and Mitch and Lily. So curious like which Heims

1202
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 6: sister represents or would maybe see fears to do, like

1203
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 6: which family would adopt each time? I feel like I

1204
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 6: have my opinions.

1205
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 9: But really curious what you guys think.

1206
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: Okay, bye, So the premise is the Heims are up

1207
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: for adoption, but the rule is you can only take

1208
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: one what's.

1209
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 2: Amazing though, is that the three families in Modern Family

1210
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: are related to one another, so they can still remain

1211
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: in the same extended family really just have to like

1212
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: go they have a bedroom in a different home. But

1213
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: like all the holidays and stuff. I mean, we've seen

1214
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 2: the show, like they're interacting with one another constantly, Like

1215
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 2: there's no day in which the three Hims sisters couldn't

1216
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: potentially be at the same like barbecue.

1217
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: No, they're seeing each other every single day, which I'm

1218
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: like they.

1219
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: Are, so they're able to produce their music, they're able

1220
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: to do their writing.

1221
00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: It's good.

1222
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: It's all good. Like if Pta wants to meet with

1223
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 2: all of them, he's like, let's just meet it like

1224
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 2: Phil and Claire.

1225
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: He's like the forty five minute drive black because all

1226
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: the kids.

1227
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 2: Are out of the house. Yeah, okay, this is an

1228
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 2: interesting I'm gonna say, I gotta say Sti's gotta go.

1229
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: With Kim and Mitch.

1230
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 2: Well, that was, of course my instinct.

1231
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 14: You know, it's it's it's freaks welcome over at Camra Mitch's.

1232
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 14: You know, she's getting drunk, she's partying down yeah, and

1233
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 14: she's having fun. She and cam are like trashing the

1234
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 14: house because they're like playing DDR. Yeah, and then Mitch

1235
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 14: comes home and is like, you.

1236
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: Guys, credit, it's roll, Credit's roll.

1237
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 2: I think Danielle is I is filing Claire. Yeah, Danielle

1238
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 2: is feeling.

1239
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: Claire because she is most like even keeled. Yeah, She's

1240
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: just like I do my work, I'm really focused and

1241
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: like I I, you know, I just want to be

1242
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 1: in a I just want to be in a normal

1243
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: family for once.

1244
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1245
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: And then I do think Alana it does make sense

1246
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: actually for her to go with Jay and Gloria, because

1247
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: I don't know they've I'm like trying to think of

1248
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: the justification other than it's the last one.

1249
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: I actually think her and Gloria could have a really

1250
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 2: interesting dynamic. I think I think they could have a

1251
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 2: kind of what's that literally like police movie that Sofia

1252
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 2: Rigara is in with maybe Reese.

1253
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: Witherspoon, I don't know.

1254
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: Hold on Hot Pursuit.

1255
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: I never heard of this.

1256
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: Well, it has an eight percent unrotten toyatos. But I

1257
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: basically think that there's a world in which I could

1258
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 2: imagine a casting director being like, wait, oppositees a tract. Alanaheim,

1259
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 2: Sophia Rigara, you figure it out, Yeah, Whereas I don't

1260
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 2: think that could work with any of the other any

1261
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: of the other two.

1262
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: Well, and I could see like Gloria giving like Alana

1263
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: makeover one episode and it's like really funny, and then

1264
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,439
Speaker 1: like Alana brings Gloria to like the indie r show.

1265
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 9: Well.

1266
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 2: I also think there could be a really interesting kind

1267
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 2: of Y two K kind of casual racism storyline where

1268
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 2: Alana tries to be Latina.

1269
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: That would crab, you.

1270
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: Know what I mean. Yeah, And I think it could

1271
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: be done in a in a way where it's like offensive,

1272
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,479
Speaker 2: but then people reclaim it later.

1273
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: It could be done in a way that it stays

1274
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: on Hulu or whatever, but people do talk about it

1275
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: on alte and like can you believe this happens?

1276
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 2: Yes, It's like the episode is that Gloria is having

1277
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: her big family reunion and they're all playing in Colombia

1278
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: and Alana comes and like just says or does or

1279
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 2: wear something completely inappropriate.

1280
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1281
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 2: And I think Alana him as an actor could pull

1282
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: that off.

1283
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,439
Speaker 1: I think she's got enough charm to pull it off.

1284
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 2: I think we're looking at a sort of White Chicks

1285
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 2: level comedy. I don't think I'm the person to write it,

1286
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: but I'll be buying a ticket.

1287
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm there's definitely scenes where Alana's babysitting Mare and Manny

1288
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: has a big crush.

1289
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 2: Oh, that's true, because Manny would like a sort of

1290
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: alt ang exactly. Manny isn't going to be attracted to

1291
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 2: like you know, Jessica Alba. No, it's like he likes

1292
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 2: Byork and Fiona Apple. He's alt. He loves the hims

1293
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: and specifically Alana. Yeah, okay, I think that works. They

1294
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 2: should redo at least the opening credits with adding each

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Speaker 2: of them to one of the framed photos.

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Speaker 1: That's a good idea, just for us, just for us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we got there. I want to thank everyone

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Speaker 2: for sending in questions with approximately three hours notice.

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Speaker 1: We really appree.

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Speaker 2: We had forgotten that we were supposed to do this

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Speaker 2: call an episode today and we posted the morning.

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Speaker 1: Of, and George texted me last night saying, don't respond

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Speaker 1: to this tonight, but what are we doing tomorrow? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And I said, damn, I got it all mixed up.

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Speaker 2: And I want to say, you know, I've said some

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01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 2: negative things about Mark Zuckerberg in the past, but he

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Speaker 2: it's because of him that we're able to post directly

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Speaker 2: to all our fans and have them write in and say,

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Speaker 2: which him, sister do you think would be adopted by

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01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: each of the families in modern family, And then a

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Speaker 2: mere hour and a half later we can be in

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Speaker 2: a studio answering that very question.

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Speaker 1: It'd be cool if you could be adopted as a

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Speaker 1: someone in their thirties.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, that is, of course a plot of the

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Speaker 2: blind Side. Actually he is in high school, but in

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Speaker 2: high school I think the actor was older.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: It would be interesting to be adapted. You know. That

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Speaker 2: is one of the elements of intergenerational career friendship. That is,

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Speaker 2: you're basically like, sort of adopted by an older sure man.

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Speaker 1: I've got older man friends for the record, of course,

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Speaker 1: for the record, and I have DC friends name one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: good point, whereas I do have DC friends. I'm DC friends.

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Speaker 1: Is not gay guys?

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Speaker 2: Right, well, are you talking about your sister?

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Speaker 1: Well, and various people I went to college with. Oh, right,

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Speaker 1: of course, of course, But that's neither here nor there.

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Speaker 1: If we said anything to negative, just know that we're

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Speaker 1: working on it, and I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think we were negative at all I actually was.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling the opposite. I'm like, I wish i'd expressed

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Speaker 2: a more controversial, provocative opinion so that people could come

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Speaker 2: for me and then I could reclaim myself as an artist.

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Speaker 1: Well you did pitch Latina Alana.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: That's something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I'm not saying I would. I'm not

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Speaker 2: pitching it. I'm saying that it could happen and it

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Speaker 2: would be funny.

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Speaker 1: Well, you should write the script and I should write

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Speaker 1: the script. We should reboot from there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, readboot Modern Family.

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Speaker 1: Reboot Modern Family. Well it's been it's been a yeah.

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Speaker 2: As long as we're all doing podcasts now reboot Modern

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Speaker 2: very currently. But you know what, don't Did you see

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Speaker 2: Lena Dunn was talking about doing a girl's movie.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, No, I didn't see this she said it.

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Speaker 2: I mean she was like, I want people to miss

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Speaker 2: us first and then maybe we'll come back. Obviously, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure it'll be good, but I'm also like, let's use

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Speaker 2: this momentum and do new stuff.

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Speaker 1: I actually like the sex, sex and the cityification of girls. True,

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Speaker 1: I think that would be really interesting and even to

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Speaker 1: see how they would lose the original spirit but find

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Speaker 1: something new that's like a weird bastardization.

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Speaker 2: I kind of like you, we need Lawrence of my Labia,

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Speaker 2: but for girls exactly.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine what the perspective would be?

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Speaker 2: No, I agree, I take it back. I would love

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Speaker 2: a girl's movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm reading the book by the way, So to

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Speaker 1: die for so insane. I can't believe it. Every sentence,

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Speaker 1: I'm like.

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Speaker 2: What, Yeah, No, she's been through more than Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: Maybe should do a Patreon about it.

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Speaker 2: I would love to.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Hy bye podcast and now.

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Speaker 2: For our visual learners. You can watch full video episodes

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Speaker 2: on our YouTube channel.

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01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: And subscribe to our Patreon for two extra episodes a month.

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Speaker 2: At patreon dot com. Slash Stradio Lab.

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Speaker 1: Stradio Lab is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money

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Speaker 1: Players Network and iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Created and hosted by me George Severis and Sam Taggart.

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Speaker 1: Executive produced by Jenna Cagel, co produced by Becca Ramos.

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Speaker 2: Edited by Laurence Thump, and mixed and mastered by Doug Bain.

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Speaker 1: Artwork by Michael Failes and Matt Grubb. Theme music by

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Speaker 1: Ben Kling