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Speaker 1: This is John. This is Sam, your og Okay Storytime

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Speaker 1: podcast hosts. We have some spectacular stories coming up, but

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Speaker 1: real quick, we got a two minute break from our

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Speaker 1: lovely sponsors keeping this ship sailing. My mother in law

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Speaker 1: always falls for scams. This time it's breaking my family

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Speaker 1: don't answer the phone. Grandma. Mother in law lives in Laos,

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Speaker 1: a developing country in Asia. I was born there too,

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Speaker 1: but left when I was ten months old. Mother in

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Speaker 1: law had fallen victim to romance scams in the past,

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Speaker 1: but only losing maybe two to five thousand dollars. Only

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Speaker 1: lot the lot. Oh man, the romance scams really get you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's tough man. We knew she had in the past

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Speaker 1: six months fallen for another romance scam, but I didn't

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Speaker 1: think it was serious. By the way, this comes from

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: My wife has in the past four years and completely

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Speaker 1: renovated her mother's house, new backyard, new additions to the house,

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Speaker 1: even left her still relatively new car for her mother.

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Speaker 1: My wife also sends her about seven hundred dollars a

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Speaker 1: month for expenses the same amount she sends to her father,

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Speaker 1: and he says it's more than enough. Mother in law's

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Speaker 1: not cash rich but has access to properties. Put and

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Speaker 1: I see you in the chat, see where this is going?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I think grandmama is going to Willsome Land

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Speaker 1: to a dashing stallion on the internet. Oh no, Well,

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Speaker 1: we would then hear things like how mother in law

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Speaker 1: is very frugal, lives like destitute person. Mother in law

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Speaker 1: would constantly be asking my wife for advances in her allowed.

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Speaker 1: Then we would hear from others that mother in law

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Speaker 1: told people that we have never sent her any money

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Speaker 1: at all, not even a dollar, but I'd be sending

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Speaker 1: you seven hundred dollars a month. Woe is me a

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Speaker 1: seven hundred Woe is me? Grandma? An attempt to convince

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Speaker 1: that person to lend her money. Then we start getting

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Speaker 1: calls from village elders and family members that mother in

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Speaker 1: law is trying to pawn properties for loans some successfully. Dude,

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Speaker 1: what's worse giving the property to the person or pawning

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Speaker 1: them off to try to because she's probably not getting

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Speaker 1: a good deal, probably just trying to double it off

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Speaker 1: anyway she can. This is bad. She has no intentions

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Speaker 1: of paying these loans for the papers we could get.

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Speaker 1: They take the property after six months of back payments.

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Speaker 1: Mother in law thinks she will be living in the

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Speaker 1: US by the time the loans are due and her

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Speaker 1: great lover will pay off the loans. H oh. No,

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Speaker 1: she's been able to pawn things that aren't even in

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Speaker 1: her name. She has pawned in the past month jewelry

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Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars, four acre plot for twelve thousand dollars,

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Speaker 1: but the real value is fifty thousand. Oh scooters, one thousand,

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Speaker 1: rental advance from the business property she owns one sixth

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Speaker 1: real value fifteen thousand. They're roughly fifty thousand she received

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Speaker 1: from the loans she's already given away to the scammers.

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Speaker 1: And it's so oh dude, it is so tragic because

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Speaker 2: That I genuinely think we should like have forces for

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Speaker 2: to like teach them how to not fall for these scams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she's just so probably she's probably just

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Speaker 2: Just like a huge thing that impacts older people in general,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, driver's license and anti scammers license, we need that. Well,

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Speaker 1: she's also attempted to sell but we're stopped by officials.

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Speaker 1: Despite everyone knowing what needs to be done, no one

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Speaker 1: around ten people, victim impact statements, et cetera. I got

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Speaker 1: We will pay off the car loan and then sell

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Speaker 1: we will use the car money and put in our

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Speaker 1: to put in her fridge. Issue with the house she's

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Speaker 1: often one or two grandkids also live there. Losing the

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Speaker 1: she's kind of imploding the whole family. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: really bad. Amber Sparks made a great comment in chat

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Speaker 1: AI Boyfriends for Nana's no scamming, no nothing, just AI boyfriends.

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Speaker 1: That is a great business.

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Speaker 2: I legitimately think that's a great idea if we market

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Speaker 2: AI boyfriends and partners for older people and.

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Speaker 1: Then are you ready, Sophia, Yeah, we also have them

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Speaker 1: throughout educate them about the scammers.

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Speaker 3: Whoa there. I love you so much. Did you know

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Speaker 3: that millions of old people get scammed every day? And

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Speaker 3: I love you every day of the year.

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Speaker 1: I love you so much. I want to show you

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Speaker 1: this example of a phishing email. If you've read this far,

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Speaker 1: holy thank you. I need help with this intervention. I've

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Speaker 1: never even done one before. I need some guidance. We

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Speaker 1: plan on taking her smartphone and replacing it with one

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Speaker 1: of those brick Nokias. I'm expecting the intervention to last

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Speaker 1: my own family's financial future. So this intervention, as serious

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Speaker 1: cutting mother in law completely from our life. I guess

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Speaker 1: what I'm asking is for those who have successfully got

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Speaker 1: their family members to realize they were scammed, what did it?

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Speaker 1: How are you successful? How is the process like for

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Speaker 1: being and we do have some comments from op Yeah

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? Yeah, I mean this is a

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Speaker 1: hard situation, but I mean kudos to op for being

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Speaker 1: maybe there's some sort of power of attorney that op

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Speaker 2: Better plan you set her up on a date with

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Speaker 2: a real person that she doesn't need to fall for

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Speaker 1: He's got Yeah, dude, you know honestly hire nanny. Uh.

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Speaker 1: If you hire Nana a full time jigglow, that's probably

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Speaker 1: cheaper than all of this internet scamming, that is what.

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Speaker 1: Just a hot mail hot that's basic. Nerd knows what

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Speaker 1: why I've started a new charity. Oh, here we go,

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Speaker 1: solving holiness for old people. Wow. Yeah, yeah, hopefully it

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Speaker 1: it just has their loneliness and their frustrations completely satisfied.

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Speaker 1: So they're not giving away their fortune. But we got

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Speaker 1: more of the story so Op's comments eraser x two

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Speaker 1: hundred says, Unfortunately, it usually takes them running out of money.

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Speaker 1: They want to believe what they are being told is true,

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Speaker 1: so bad Convincing them otherwise is almost impossible. On YouTube,

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Speaker 1: there's a channel called Catfish. Maybe you can contact them

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Speaker 1: and have them show that's a scamp and help you respond. Yes,

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Speaker 1: sad as it is. If this interinvention doesn't work, we're out.

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Speaker 1: My wife agrees. He's even sold my wife's geolery and

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Speaker 1: replace them with faith. Why feels constantly betrayed? And a

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Speaker 1: commenter responds, but if a cultural point, if your wife

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Speaker 1: don't know her nor your relationship, but I would be

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Speaker 1: highly skeptical about her alleged agreement to wear out. You

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Speaker 1: might have agreed to make you happy, avoid conflict, and

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Speaker 1: In the way an American would imagine anop response. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right. If it came down to it, the kids

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Speaker 1: on Tennessee on UA one thirty four. Everyone is still

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00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 1: trying to convince her and stay calm, though my wife

429
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 1: scrolls to the loan sharks. Financially, we are mostly where

430
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 1: we think we are. Accept who's managed to pawn the

431
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 1: country farmhouse? We didn't think she could because the ex

432
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: husband is on the title and he did not agree

433
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 1: to that. People are furious, and I am tired of

434
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 1: holding them back. They verbally lay it onto her. We

435
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,479
Speaker 1: put down on paper what the debt is, and I

436
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 1: don't think he flinched. We did when we totaled it

437
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 1: seventy thousand for the properties and items worth three hundred

438
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars. And think about it. They're in

439
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: Laos right now, right, so like think about that relative worth,

440
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: Like that's that's like so much over four uk USD

441
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 1: like that could be like millions relatively speaking. Yeah, Oh

442
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: my goodness, wow, wow wow wow wow Wow to the sun.

443
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm about to get this scammon business. Yeah John John grannies. Oh.

444
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: We try for two hours to talk sense into her,

445
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 1: but she's still fully committed to believing the scammers. There's

446
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 1: just one property left, not Pond, the one we're currently in,

447
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: the one that only has her name but is actually

448
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 1: her ex husband's childhood house. Everyone leaves frustrated, and my

449
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: wife and I tell her that she would never see

450
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: us again. He asks for her phone back, Do not

451
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: give it to her? Don't do it? Our reply, was

452
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: it nice? My wife worries her mother is going to

453
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: commit self harm, but she doesn't. The next day, we

454
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: meet up with the father in law, whom I always

455
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: thought was the stand up guy. Everyone thought he would

456
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: be upset, but he was just disappointed. He goes on

457
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 1: to explain that he removed his name from the house

458
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 1: title in the Capitol because he didn't want his children

459
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 1: or grandchildren to think he would try to pump them

460
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: out of it in any way, as his ex wife

461
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: had repeatedly said it was something he would do. He

462
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: was in tears and said he just wanted good things

463
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 1: for his family. We agreed to meet up again the

464
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: next day to start a plan to get the police

465
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: to arrest mother in law for selling the farm property

466
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: that father in law did have his name on the title.

467
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: Maybe they could get it back maybe, Oh yeah, I

468
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: wonder if you're like, hey, like kind of like pleading insane,

469
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, or like you know, this is a false

470
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: deal like this she wasn't her Yeah, housed upon Yeah,

471
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 1: interesting because like in the Poor Poor Father and like

472
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: he was like, I want to keep this before the family,

473
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: and then she tries to get rid of it. But yeah,

474
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: maybe maybe there is a chance they could get it

475
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: get back yeah yeah. Yeah. Well, life goes through the

476
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: phone and we get an even clearer picture. Turns out

477
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: these loan scheisters weren't nearly as bad as we thought,

478
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: even the one that accepted a properties collateral knowing that

479
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: father in law wasn't involved. There were two main loaners,

480
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: and each loan to them started typically enough for the

481
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: two properties, but the mother in law started asking to

482
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: see if they would take a loan from the house

483
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: in the Capitol. Ball said no, staying they didn't want

484
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: any of the properties, they just wanted the interest in

485
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: the loans. They started questioning if she was being scammed,

486
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: telling her to talk to her family. She kept telling

487
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: them she was fine. They kept insisting she'd get her

488
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: and family involved, and she said her family was why

489
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,719
Speaker 1: she didn't have anything and needed the loan. We call

490
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: the loan people. They seem able and actually concerned for

491
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 1: mother in law. One only wanted the principle back, the

492
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: other seemed willing to accept the principal in a month's

493
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: interest instead of everything that's accrued. My wife asked me

494
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: if I remembered the jewelry gifts we got for our wedding.

495
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 1: I replied that I didn't until she mentioned it. Now, good,

496
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: then you won't miss them because Granny pawned them away.

497
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: Got them the next day. My wife plans to pay

498
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: the loan to get her car back. There's already a

499
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 1: buyer the sale of the car and the jewelry is

500
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 1: enough to cover not everything, but at least the two

501
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: farm properties. I guess I shouldn't be annoyed at losing

502
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: the jewelry. Definitely annoyed at mother in law though, Yeah, duh.

503
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: Annoyed is the understatement of the century. Yeah, I mean

504
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 1: she's caused all of this to happen so much, and

505
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: I mean she's pawned like so much money. It's so sad. Yeah,

506
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: because it's not just the dollar of value alone is

507
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: insane and would cause anyone to be upset, I think.

508
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: But I think like the home father in law wanted

509
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: for the grandkids, the jewelry that had the sentilementtal value,

510
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,959
Speaker 1: all of these things have a lot of emotional value

511
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: and connection that's so painful to lose. Well, sure enough,

512
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: midday we get a text message from the scammer on

513
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: mother in law's phone, which we have, asking why he's

514
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: getting texts from another number claiming to be my mother

515
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: in law and that is the new number to call.

516
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: We throw a few curveball scammer, but yep, mother in

517
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: law had a backup phone, which explains why she wasn't

518
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: wrestling us back for the phone. If only mother in

519
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: law used all of these scamming tactics for the family,

520
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: like that she's using on the family for her own

521
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: self betterment, he might have been fine, Like like like

522
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: what I mean, she's literally hoodwinking this entire family that

523
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: she's oh, yeah, like I'm not going to talk to them. Oh,

524
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: here's my phone, Like she has a backup phone. She

525
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: obviously has enough wits about her to scam the family,

526
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: so she can get scammed by the scammer. Yeah, you know,

527
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: like like if only she used those wits to protect herself. Yeah,

528
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: like Granny clearly understands says something that technology Like Heidi

529
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: says dementia. I don't think so, Like it seems like

530
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: she's she has enough wits about her to hoodwink the family,

531
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's dementia. I think she actually

532
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: is pretty sharp. Yeah, we we're no experts here, but yeah,

533
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: maybe it's it's something like not dementia, but something else,

534
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 1: like in her brain chemistry and mental health. She's lonely.

535
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: Maybe it's like a Killing Eve situation.

536
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: What break there to the show Killing Eve where Sandra

537
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 2: I think she's like hunting down Eve, the killer and

538
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: then she falls in love with Eve.

539
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: So it's like kind of like Stockholm syndrome a bit

540
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,239
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, I know this person is like,

541
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, scamming me and doing all this stuff, but

542
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: I just like I still crave it. I still yeah,

543
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: And I think there's something mental going on where Drainey's

544
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: still sharp. Obviously she's sharp enough to like do all

545
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: this planning and this movement maneuvering, but does not have

546
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: her like wits about her to understand that this is

547
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: like so damaging, This is so bad for her, for

548
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: the family and everything else. It is a bad situation.

549
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: It's a bad situation. Well, so she's re talking to

550
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: the scammers. Yay. Two hours after this, my sister in

551
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: law puts her phone up to show me and my

552
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: wife alive scene from the security cameras of the house.

553
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: A lot of people in this country still believe in

554
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: animalism and spirits, et cetera. And the conversation goes like

555
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: this sister in law, she's opening up all the windows

556
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: in the house. Why that nasty witch. Yep, she's got

557
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: them all opened, and she's got some incense. Now she's

558
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: lighting them outside the house and waving them. Oh f r,

559
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm so out of her life. What kind of mother

560
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: does that? Me scratching my head, what's going on? She

561
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: just wished all the evil in the world come to

562
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: you and your wife. Oh wonderful, Thank you for reading

563
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: my rant. Well we're here for another week. Let's see

564
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: what crazy crap happens now. Hoping my mother in law

565
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: does get arrested. I think it's likely, but maybe not

566
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: before we leave. You guys actually read this all the

567
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: way through and the next part is interesting. I'll put

568
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: it out so we might have another update. And it

569
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: looks like we do. Oh, looks like we do. Yeah,

570
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: I mean this is something that can just crazy stuff

571
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: can keep happening. Yeah, because of where a granny's at,

572
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: which is not a good place. Oh boy, well some

573
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 1: of OPI's comments, So commenter, the picture you paint is

574
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: one of a person who is not mentally well. She

575
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: needs medical intervention. Op That is the picture we get

576
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: as well. I've suggested this to the family before they

577
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: declined it. It seems like a good idea to suggest

578
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: it again at it. Recall now why they decline. Mental

579
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: health treatment is non existent here. The one place that

580
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: would take her is for substance rehab and it's pretty grim.

581
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: And we got a mini update March thirtieth, twenty twenty

582
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: five the next day. Oh so, commenter, I would not

583
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: bail her out of her loans with your money. She'll

584
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: just do it again with the same scammer or a

585
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: different scammer. I would move on with your life and

586
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: stay out of hers. And nope. Response the deed for

587
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: the farm as my father in law as well on

588
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: it will be transferred entirely to my father in law. Okay,

589
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: that's great, that's good. Apparently this can be done without

590
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: mother in law's consent as long as officials agree. It

591
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: looks like they will agree. The other farm that is

592
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: entirely in mother in law's name will hopefully be transferred

593
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: to my wife eventually, as she is the one who

594
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: actually paid for it, but we need mother in law

595
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: to agree. Seems she won't agree anytime soon. However, we

596
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: actually get to keep the title from the loan or

597
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: after the debt's paid, so she won't be able to

598
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: pawn anything without the title. As for the house in

599
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: the Capitol, father in law's childhood home, father in law,

600
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: along with the entire family will be meeting with officials

601
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: to have the title change to be only under father

602
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: in law's name. So we're taking a lot of power

603
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: away from granny right now. Plan is going to get

604
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: mother in law arrested and put away until she regains

605
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: her senses. I don't know if you will. Can't believe

606
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: it's come to that, but I don't see any way

607
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: to get her to go back to her senses. Apparently

608
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: she's throwing garbage all around the house and plugging laundry

609
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: if someone is using the machine, just making the lives

610
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: of her daughters still there miserable. The daughters are still

611
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: there living with her, right yeah, because remember that I

612
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: think that was the house the father in law was like, hey,

613
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: I want this for all the grand kid Like I

614
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: want this for the family, you know what I mean.

615
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: And she's just like been, you know, pimping it out

616
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: to get money and now like making their lives miserable.

617
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: So messed up the whole time, screaming at whoever is

618
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: there that soon she will have everything and we will

619
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: see she's rites. I previously told the daughters go easy

620
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: on mom, but today I told them to go at

621
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: it if they want. They are not defense as women.

622
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: They've been holding back. He's going to be put away.

623
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: It seems like one way or another. And we got

624
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: another update April eleventh, twenty twenty five, one and a

625
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: half months later and two and a half months from

626
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: the OG post. Okay, that's a lot can happen. Yeah, yeah,

627
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: and we're getting up to the present day. Yeah, well

628
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: the recent this update isn't as exciting as the second

629
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: update where we were breaking down doors, growbars and my

630
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: mother in law was putting a hecks on us. But

631
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: that's probably a good thing. I pushed getting her arrested,

632
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: but apparently Laos it's not that simple. You have to

633
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: go to the village elder. They have to get the

634
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: village police involved, and then an actual arrest can be made.

635
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it really was this complicated or

636
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: if the family just didn't have the appetite for it.

637
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: Of all the things she had pawned, we were interested

638
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: in resolving four items that were pawned or suspected to

639
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: be my wife's car, two of the farm plots in

640
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: the house in the Capitol. We paid three thousand dollars

641
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: to get the car back, which included the loan and

642
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: the interest. We then sold the car. My wife also

643
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: sold the wedding jewelry we received many years ago. This,

644
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: together with the proceeds of the was enough for us

645
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: to pay back the loan and interest for the two

646
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: farm plots. The papers were all signed in front of

647
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: the village officials. We had no idea where the deed

648
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: to the house and the capitol was. Turns out the

649
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: loan people had the deed all along. My mother in

650
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: law was so desperate for money that she offered to

651
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: take five thousand dollars for a house worth five hundred

652
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. I'm hoping that these loan people are nice

653
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: enough to not like to give that back. I mean,

654
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have the faith that, you know, a super

655
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: loan sharkster would do that, but I'm praying the loaner

656
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: declined but held onto the deed, which was given back

657
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: to us. Okay, that's kind of smart. The loaner's like, hey,

658
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: or or like basically, I'm not going to give you

659
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: back this loan until I see someone with higher mental

660
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: faculties right right, because then it's like maybe the government

661
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: rest or whatever they're out, whatever cash they spent. The

662
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: laws at LLAOS don't make any sense to me, and

663
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how we're able to do the things

664
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: we did after. The first farm plot is six acres

665
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: and owned by my mother in law and ex husband.

666
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: Mother in law managed to pawn the property without her

667
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: ex husband knowing, so now we're going by official judgment

668
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: from their divorce. One and a half acres will be

669
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: given to mother in law, but the title will be

670
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: given to one of her daughters to hold. The second

671
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: farm plot is five acres. It was one hundred percent

672
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: in my mother in law's name, but was paid for

673
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: by my wife years ago. Title will now be transferred

674
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: to my wife. As for the house in the Capitol,

675
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: it's one hundred percent in my mother in law's name,

676
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: even though it was my father in law childhood home.

677
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: This was because she had repeatedly accused him of in

678
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: the future selling the house and leaving the grandkids with

679
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: no place to go. Funny how it was actually the opposite.

680
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: We're working on putting father in law back on the

681
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: title while one of my wife's sisters holds onto the title.

682
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: My wife used to give her mother a five hundred

683
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: to six hundred dollars a monthly stipened but stopped a

684
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: few months ago. He's told her sisters that she will

685
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: still help pay for utilities and putting groceries in her

686
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: mother's fridge. Wife's niece and nephews also use the house.

687
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 1: We have to pay utilities directly now, as the lights

688
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: were just turned off recently because mother in law didn't

689
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: pay utilities for four months. She won't see her son

690
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: again either, and she has numerous photos of him in

691
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: her house. We knew she had promised the scammers to

692
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: get him money in April, so we tried to get

693
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: ahead of that. She traveled to Thailand. That's some relatives

694
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: for money, but we told them ahead of time not

695
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: to give any money. Smart put this woman on like

696
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: a do not give money list. We need, yeah, we

697
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: need a list. We need a list, We need a list.

698
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: In the end, she begged them for bags of rice

699
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: to take home, which they gave. She also recently went

700
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: to visit her son to ask him for money. He

701
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: was at home, so she asked for five dollars from

702
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: her daughter in law's mother. Five dollars. He's literally been

703
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: selling like half you know, like a half a million

704
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: dollars at least maybe a million dollars worth of stock.

705
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: Now she needs five dollars. Come on, she's going to

706
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: several friends asking for financial help, telling them that her

707
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: kids abandoned her. So now we will have to call

708
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: those people and tell them that mother in law has

709
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: been scammed. But we still put food in the fridge.

710
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: Mother in law believes the scammers. She wants to desperately

711
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: believe she did not give the scammers our final tallly

712
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: of seventy thousand dollars. She really wants to believe her

713
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: lover is real. She has nothing enough to pawn. Since

714
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: we have all the documents, I can only hope that

715
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: within six months the scammers will stop talking to her

716
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: once they realize she has nothing left, and maybe she

717
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: will come to your senses. By the way, you should

718
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: come to your senses by listening to full stories just

719
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: like this. Go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite

720
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: podcast app and search. Okay, story time, there's another elevant update.

721
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: Hey it's Sam. We're gonna get back to the stories.

722
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: But here's three minutes bads from our sponsors. Well, let's

723
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: discuss John. Yes, sir, my goodness, what a saga what

724
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: a roller coaster we've been on, my friend. Yeah, geez,

725
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: Louise Trapez, I am happy that we are. Seems like

726
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: we're on the other side. Yes, they were able to

727
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: get back a shocking amount of shocking him out. Shocking

728
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 1: him out probably very unusual and lucky. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

729
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: and luckily some of these loan sharks were less sharky

730
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: than we may have thought at the beginning. Yeah, but

731
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: my goodness, why.

732
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: Did they ever like contact the scammers.

733
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: They had them on the phone or one of the

734
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: other phones, I think. Yeah, and the house that was

735
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: like five k for five hundred K. I think they

736
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: were like directly involved somehow. Yeah. So, yes, they were

737
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: really able to finesse in a multiple things. So, like

738
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: Op said it, like he's like, I don't know how

739
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: this really works. But we were to get all this stuff.

740
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: But we got a little bit more of this story.

741
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: Here we go. It's been exhausting, but I'm glad we

742
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: were able to get all three property tiles back, so

743
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: at least mother in law and niece and nephews don't

744
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: end up on the street. I was born in Laos too,

745
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: but left when I was one years old. But I

746
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: get the culture. We had planned a five week trip

747
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: that spent almost four weeks cleaning up this scam mess.

748
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: The whole point of the trip, prior to realizing my

749
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: mother in law was being scammed, was to do a

750
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: baby blessing ceremony to be attended by hundreds of people,

751
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: very wholesome, positive event, something my wife has been looking

752
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: forward to for a year. We didn't do it because

753
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: there was so much bad energy. It wasn't until we

754
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: flew to Bangkok for a few days that we felt

755
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: we were on vacation. My wife used to fly back

756
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: to Laos once a year, sometimes twice. He's made it

757
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: very clear he won't be going back for a while,

758
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: and that is where that story ends. Wow. Hey, you know,

759
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: as terrible as this saga was, at least we kind

760
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: of got into a little bit better of a place. Yeah,

761
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: potentially a lot better with getting everything back and all

762
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: the stuff that, you know, and cutting the mother in

763
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: law off from having more funds to give to these

764
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: camera Just give her, give her groceries, yeah, and utilities.

765
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: That's that's it. Miss Woozy said they got so lucky

766
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: with the lone people. Yeah, for sure, Oh my god.

767
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: But that's not where this episode ends. Oh no, we

768
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: got another story for you. Yeah, we're not scamming you

769
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: out of that. Let's go started, all right, boys and girls,

770
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: we gin and we get a next story. My mother

771
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: is doubting my sister in law's pregnancy and it's getting uncomfortable.

772
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: Stop making me uncomfortable, Mama, make me comfy. Hi, red it.

773
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: I'm in a bit of a bind with my family.

774
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: My mother has always been a bit critical and controlling.

775
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: She and I have never seen eye to eye, but

776
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: my brother and her have had a wonderful relationship, especially

777
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: as he's gotten older and wiser. However, a big snack

778
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: to this came when he proposed to my now sister

779
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: in love. By the way, this comes from Baby Throwaway

780
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: Central and if you want to submit your own stories,

781
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: go to the r slash. Okay, storytime, stop brending. So,

782
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: my mother felt like her family was included in a

783
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: lot more in the festivities, and she felt incredibly slighted

784
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: by this, I guess way more than her. After they

785
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: got married, she made this no secret to them. After

786
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: it happened, my brother and sister in law were very

787
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: taken aback by this. She had never indicated her disappointment

788
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: until the moment when she unloaded it on them. My

789
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: brother was very upset and they didn't talk for a while. Well,

790
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: not long after he told us that he and his

791
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: wife were pregnant. We got a baby. Yes, yes, so

792
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: we love babies. We love babies. John John Hay's babies

793
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: and thinks I love babies so much. They are just hey, listen,

794
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: I was the The reason why I can say this

795
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 1: is because I was the ugliest baby. I was black

796
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: and blue and not looking brand new, even though I

797
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: literally was. I was a brain baby coming out. But

798
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: it was tough, so I knew this was coming. As

799
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: they wanted to start a family right away. While everyone

800
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: was excited, my mom was very angry. That's not good.

801
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: She started telling me behind my back that if it

802
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: happened a little later, she wouldn't have been doubtful. But

803
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: since it happened right after their marriage, she was conceived

804
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: as a bachelorette party baby. Air go to break this down,

805
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: what modding Yeah, Mom is insinuating that, oh, she hooked

806
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: up with someone at the bachelorette party because of this timeline,

807
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: therefore she was cheating. But god, she could have slept

808
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: with her her husband to be at any point during

809
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: this time. So this is a I mean, Sophia, what

810
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: are you saying? This seems like a huge, far fetched

811
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: reach by the mom.

812
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 3: So so so yeah.

813
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: Also, I've never I don't think we've ever really heard

814
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: the term bachelor ate baby. Yes, that feels like a

815
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: new one, which I kind of like it. Which but

816
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: and we have the accusation, but I like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

817
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: we have heard of in scene the bachelorette and bachelor

818
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: party cheating. Oh wait, so we have We restarted the

819
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: GDR because I think it's still I don't know why

820
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: our tel dr about friend is struggling. Chat let us

821
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: know if URTELDR about friend gives us gives you what

822
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: you're looking for, struggling, and we will look into that.

823
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: Let's give it a stop and a restart, right, because

824
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: it'll still at least get the the and I'll do

825
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: with FELDR in that. Yes, all right, quick tal DR

826
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: on everything that's happened up until now. So p Opie

827
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: has a sister in law, right, and the mother in

828
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: law is very doubtful they fell in love, they got married.

829
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: The mother in law is thinking that because they had

830
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: a pregnancy announcement with the timeline of the wedding. She

831
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: is now accusing her of basically having a bachelorette party

832
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: affair baby, cheating at the bachelorette party, and conceiving the

833
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: baby bachelorette baby. Bachelorette baby, which is a new one.

834
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: That's one, which is a new one for us. We

835
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: love that term. So we're going to see if we

836
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: think she's full of crap. Okay, but we're gonna see

837
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: if there's any any truth to this. All right, So

838
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: I was a bridesmaid in the wedding, so I went

839
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: to the bachelorette party. Okay, so maybe O who knows. However,

840
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: everyone knows I dislike clubbing. It's just not for me.

841
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: So I went back to the hotel early to soak

842
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: my feet and relax. I told my mom this when

843
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: I came back, no other details, since I had cut

844
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: my foot at the bachelorette dinner and she saw the

845
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: cut a few days later when she was visiting me.

846
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: So she used that tiny tidbit of info to infer

847
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: that sister in law was screwing around while she knew

848
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. Now, in the past few weeks, my

849
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: brother and sister in law have really been making an

850
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: effort to repair the relationship. They've been getting better. But

851
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's very obvious that she's not very excited

852
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: about her first grandchild. Well, everyone else in the family is.

853
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: I think they might chalk it up to the fight

854
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: they had and her still being mad about it. What's

855
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: the fight? We need more details there, so they have

856
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: no idea that my mom always tells me and my

857
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: dad that she doesn't want to get excited for a grandchild.

858
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: That quote unquote isn't hers. I mean, I think that

859
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: sentence is like makes sense, but the context of it

860
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: does not. Dude, like it is such a reach. Yeah,

861
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: You're you're going off like no information at all, zero information,

862
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: zero information. Yeah, I would be asking her, like, where's

863
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: your other proof, Like, other than there was a an

864
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: hour or two I wasn't there with her directly, You

865
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: think that's really what's causing her to that she actually

866
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: cheated in that amount of time. I mean, that's all

867
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: the proof she has. I mean, it's nuts to extrapolate

868
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: that much. Absolutely, maybe there's other information that someone else else. Well,

869
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: every time they have an ultrasound. My brother takes videos

870
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,959
Speaker 1: of it, and one video even the doctor says, given

871
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: the sighs of the baby and development, it looks like

872
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: it was conceived the week after the wedding. Okay, but

873
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: you know doctor's doctor's paid off. You know he had

874
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: on yeah exactly. Of course. Of course doctors can be bought.

875
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: He was one, he's the father, so he's fully incentivized.

876
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: So you know, make up all the lots. Yeah, the

877
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: doctor's a stripper on the side. Oh, I got to

878
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: pay for medical skill. He's a doctor and a doctor

879
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: and a doctor. Someone order the doctor, let me heal

880
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: you baby. The bachelotte was three weeks before that, but

881
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: my mom just twists it and says the doctor doesn't

882
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: mean it and is just going off. When sister in

883
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: law claims, quote unquote her last period was I know

884
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: my brother knows something is up, and my mom is

885
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: constantly screaming about what a which sister in law is

886
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: and how can I support a niece or nephew that

887
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: isn't mine That is getting on my nerves. I told

888
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: my mom to just tell my brother her concerns if

889
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: it's that bad, But I know in the end she

890
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: doesn't have the goness side stone. She don't got those stones.

891
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 1: She'll never hurt her firstborn son were hispanic. It's always

892
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: going to be sister in law's faults. Should I tell

893
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: him that she's feeling this way, I'm worried it'll destroy

894
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: them forever and that he'll never talk to my family again.

895
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: And if my mom finds out and I told him,

896
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: she is going to freak. We have a mini update,

897
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: we have comments, but before we dive into all of that,

898
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: should op say something? Should Ope go to brother and

899
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: sister in law and be like, hey, mom is over

900
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: here freaking out saying this kid is not your brother?

901
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: I mean, and what like is are we trying to

902
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: prevent some kind of scenario from happening by saying this? Yeah,

903
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: so basically and a little recap here too. So the

904
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: brother and sister in law don't know that Opie's mom

905
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: is throwing all this shade, is trying to accuse the

906
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: sister in lawn. It's a bunch of it's a bunch

907
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: of gossip. She's just been yapping and opeasier about all

908
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: of this. So I guess the implication is like she

909
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: could make this child's life terrible. She doesn't believe it.

910
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: It's her grandchild that will obviously have like make the

911
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: brother and sister in law's life terrible. So I guess

912
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, hey, a heads up, a storm

913
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: is coming and that storm is named mom. Yeah you know. Hm.

914
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: I feel like the mom is definitely out of turn

915
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: saying all this stuff. I think probably warning, here's a question, warning?

916
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: Is this a what do you think pigeon? Dude? Sophia

917
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: took some silly juice today. She's just being silly and

918
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: she's just enjoying her own silliness, silliness, just drinking a

919
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: gallon of silly juice today. Like I almost feel like,

920
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: is it you might might be saying like is this

921
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: not my circus? Not my monkey's kind of thing, or

922
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: a little bit basically saying hey, I'm tell her or

923
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: I will, and you can kind of be bluffing, I think,

924
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: at least at first, because right now what is happening

925
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: is the mom is putting it on op. Yeah, and

926
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear this. Yeah, Like I don't

927
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: want to hear this. I don't want to deal with this.

928
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: This is not my circus, So you need to tell them,

929
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: and that kind of effectively gets it off of Ope's

930
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: back and hopefully will kind of force her hand. Maybe

931
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: you bluff at first. If she doesn't tell, though, what

932
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: do you do? Maybe at that point you do say

933
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: something is hey, you know what, this is this gray area,

934
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: but this is your niece or nephew, this is your

935
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: your brother and sister in law. It kind of is

936
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: your and they seem to have a good relationship. This

937
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: is kind of your It's not one hundred percent your circus,

938
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: but it's kind of like eighty five percent yourself. I

939
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: mean if so, if Sophia was having a kid and

940
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: there was all this craziness being said behind her back,

941
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: I probably would tell tell her yeah, because I think

942
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen is that there'll be a crash out. Yeah,

943
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: so I thought Sophia is hurt by I think crash out.

944
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: I think you do do say something? Yeah, And Bobby says,

945
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: it's your circus. You're literally one of the monkeys. Ooh

946
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: ah ooh. But we have a mini updates followed by

947
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: some comments, Hey, it's Sam. We're gonna get back to

948
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: these stories. But here's three bits of bad from our

949
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: sponsors that keep the show alive mini updates. My mom

950
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: just called me and brought this topic up again. I

951
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: got really fed up and told her I would tell

952
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: my brother. So Op is now at the place we

953
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: just talked about there. She straight up laughed and said,

954
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: are you going to tell him? It's your fault too?

955
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: Apparently because I told her, I, let how is it

956
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: her fault? Are you ready? Yeah? Are you ready for this?

957
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: Here we go. This is why it's a peace fault.

958
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: Apparently because I told her I left the club early

959
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: and didn't want what sister in law or anyone else

960
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: was up to. I planted the seat in her head right,

961
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, I don't want to stay out. I

962
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: don't want to do the clubs. And so sister in

963
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: law is like, ooh now I can. Now I got

964
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: a free forty five minutes. I can, you know, find

965
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: a pad because everyone knows you have to police that

966
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: person twenty four to seven exactly. They don't cheat. Yeah,

967
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: of course your fault, they do. Yep. So I have

968
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: to live with the fact that I told her that

969
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: sister in law was screwing around. I said nothing of

970
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: the sorts, And now I am really lost. So are

971
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: we this is this is insane logic. Op, don't don't worry,

972
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: You're not crazy. Yeah, someone else's oh mother in law

973
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: or mom. Well, we got some relevant comments too. Weigh

974
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: in Commentar number one says this, it seems like a

975
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: very extreme reaction for your mother to have had both

976
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: the wedding issue and the much bigger now baby issue.

977
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: You describe her as quote unquote a bit critical and controlling.

978
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: Is what is happening right now consistent with her past

979
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: issues or these extraordinary basically? Is this like new? You

980
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Is this new behavior? Were the

981
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: red flags before? I do think you should alert your brother.

982
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: Your mother is saying really her for one harmful things

983
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: and she is bound to say something directly to him

984
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: or your sister in law at some point. And if

985
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 1: it were me, I wouldn't want to face that shock

986
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: in the moment, i e. When the baby's born, Like

987
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: what if she's literally in the hospital room, it just

988
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: starts freaking out. That's not a child. Don't don't sign

989
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: that to my yah. I mean she is. It is

990
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: feeling like unstable behavior and that she's like building up

991
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: to something big, but she has she's like kind of

992
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: like leaking out of her. You know, it'd be best

993
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: for him to address this with her head on. OPI

994
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: responds to that this is extraordinary even for her, So

995
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: this is maybe she has like kindness, little behavior, but

996
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: it's like it's like off the charts. Although she vehemently

997
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: denies this, I think she's angry that sister in law's

998
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: family is very close with my brother. She keeps talking

999
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: about how his new family is excited, but they have

1000
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: no idea of the truth of their witch daughter. It's

1001
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: that bad. I think she feels that he was stolen

1002
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: in a way, but she'd never tell him that. She

1003
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: always says, I always prayed for him to find a

1004
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: wife that makes him happy. Why would I be angry

1005
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: at that except that I would? So we have an update, Uh,

1006
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it seems like, oh, he should tell. Yes, Yeah,

1007
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: I think we're we're all in one hundred percent agreement here,

1008
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: Opie should tell. But question, what do we predict is

1009
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: going to happen after this is told? I mean, I

1010
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: think she's gonna freak. I think she's gonna freak too.

1011
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna she's gonna freak so bad it's

1012
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: gonna end up in a at least a you know,

1013
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: iPhone lock the timeout scenario or potentially low maybe even

1014
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: depending on what they feel like them are worth of

1015
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: timeout area. Yes, like she needs time to chill out. Yeah.

1016
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: And two I think it could help because she's like like, oh,

1017
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: my precious little boy, she's rubbed crafting him. If the

1018
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: precious baby boy. Oh's brother's like, hey, mom, you're completely wrong,

1019
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: and I'm putting something that will finally make it snap

1020
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: exactly that that maybe that'll make it click for her.

1021
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: We can open pray, but we can also know what's

1022
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: happening today because we have the up. Wow, that is

1023
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: a close close up. I mean we are really Sophia's

1024
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: Sophia's just she just like delivered another gallon of silly juice.

1025
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: It has just been a little little silly goose over there.

1026
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into this update. So Hi everyone,

1027
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: this has been a doozy. I resolved to tell my

1028
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: brother this info after Christmas. I'm a coward, I know,

1029
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: but I just didn't want to stress him out any

1030
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: further this holiday season. I understand. Yeah, yeah, the right

1031
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: time to tell your brother that it there's absolute craziness

1032
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: going on. Right, It's hard to say, but right time

1033
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: replaces important. Yeah Christmas day is not it? Yeah? Yeah Christmas?

1034
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: But maybe like again early and off ye, Jenny. I

1035
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: visited him for Christmas and we went to a bunch

1036
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: buffet with sister in law that sounds fire. While he

1037
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: and I were getting some food at the tables, he

1038
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: asked a weirdly specific question. He said, why does mom

1039
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: keep asking me what the conception was? All right, that's

1040
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: a direct question that needs a direct answer. This is

1041
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: the time, this, this is our moment. Later, there's time now.

1042
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: I knew she had asked sister in law and brother

1043
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: about this once or twice in the beginning, but I

1044
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: had no idea she kept doing it. He said that

1045
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: every time zar on the phone, she asks a question

1046
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: about it, and not just about dates, but about other

1047
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: personal things, like sister in law's ovulation cycles, her having

1048
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: spicy sleep with my brother, her periods, all kinds of

1049
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: weird personal stuff. Dude, Can you imagine Sophia, your your

1050
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: mother in law is saying like, hey, can you give

1051
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: me a chart of your ovulation cycles?

1052
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: No?

1053
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: No, that's crazy, and like you're the mother in law

1054
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't you recognize how insanely it's already It's already insane

1055
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: if father in law says that, you know, having you know,

1056
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: not not being a woman at all, but like you,

1057
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: where's the empathy? Yeah, I mean you've been through that,

1058
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: but we got more. So I asked my brother what

1059
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: he thought the reason was, and of course he hit

1060
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: the nail on the head. Turns out he's known since

1061
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: they first announced the pregnancy, using the Socratic method for

1062
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: him to come to his own conclusions. Indeed, he never

1063
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: revealed anything. Yes, you knew all alone within you. The

1064
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: answers were inside. He just wanted to run it by

1065
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: me and see if his suspicions were way off base

1066
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: or irrational. I told him the full story, how she

1067
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: has quote unquote reasonable doubt that it's his, and how

1068
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: she's convinced that sister in law got pregnant at the

1069
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: bachelorette party, not by him. And I also told him

1070
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: her plot to tell him if he ever said at

1071
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: first that her doubts were placed there by me. Oh wow,

1072
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: So thank god it didn't get there, you know, And

1073
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: she would have tried to poison the well exactly, and

1074
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: and OPI and their brother couldn't have like confided in. Yeah,

1075
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 1: but I feel like the brother would would have known.

1076
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: That's true. With WFE, that's true, he said. Even if

1077
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: she mentioned me, he would have never believed it because

1078
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: I have nothing been nothing but supportive of them in

1079
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: their marriage. Dude, when Sam predicts something, he predicts something right.

1080
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: Why so close? That's crazy? Why so close? He said

1081
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: that he knew that's what it was. Deep down, he

1082
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: was just hoping it somehow. Wasn't the case that his

1083
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: own mother was basically calling his wife. I mean, he's

1084
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: she was literally doing that. Yeah. But the last straw

1085
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: was the fact that my mom started asking sister in

1086
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: law's mom strange questions as well. I guess a few

1087
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: days ago. I had no idea my mom even went

1088
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: this far. Sister in law's mom called my mom to

1089
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: ask about a restaurant she liked and what she recommended. Apparently,

1090
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: my mom told her, do you think sister in law

1091
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: and brother conceived before the wedding? They're gay? It is

1092
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: weird again, dude, she's asking her mom. She's she's like

1093
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: her mom. Now you're fixated, dude, It's so I mean,

1094
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: this is we're getting into like a questionable mental health care.

1095
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: She can't let go. Yeah, this is like obsessive, Yeah, obsessive. Yeah.

1096
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: Sister in law's mom said that the doctors have said

1097
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: multiple times that the conception date was a few days

1098
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: after the wedding, according to how the baby is growing etxetra.

1099
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: Basically the honeymoon. Yeah, whoa, you know what there was?

1100
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: There was? There was thirty two minutes that husband took

1101
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: a bath. Okay, and you know what you can do

1102
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: with thirty two minutes? You could she get the bell

1103
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: boy thirty two times? Now you got a pool boy baby. Yeah,

1104
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: thirty thirty two times, thirty two times. It's that that

1105
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 1: frequency has been done. Yep, it has. There are videos

1106
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: about it. I guess there are twenty four hours twenty

1107
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: four hour Yeah, wow, what a video. I haven't seen it,

1108
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: by the way, but I know it exists. Yep. And

1109
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: that is right. Shout out to that person. I don't

1110
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: know who you are. Basically, the baby was conceived during

1111
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: the honeymoon, which is exactly what brother and sister in

1112
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: law thought. It was very reasonable, not a secret. Sister

1113
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: in law's mom is not dumb. She knew exactly what

1114
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: my mom was trying to ask, So she told my

1115
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: brother right away about how uncomfortable it was, and she

1116
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: didn't know what to say, because no matter what, my

1117
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: mom will skew with some kind of confirmation that it

1118
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: is not my brother's baby. Brother is quite obviously livid.

1119
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: He is so tired of my mom making these passive

1120
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: aggressive accusations under the guise of curiosity. Hey, I'm just curious,

1121
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, curious why your wife is always hooking up

1122
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: with other people. Why is your wife trying to get

1123
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: plowed by all the pool boys and having all their babies.

1124
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just curious. Hey, you know, don't don't

1125
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: get mad at the person who's asking questions? Yeah, yeah,

1126
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: you know. Do you get mad at Galileo for saying, hey,

1127
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: you know, is the Sun going around the Earth? Or

1128
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: is the Earth going around on the sun? Historically?

1129
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 3: Historical did lock him in his house?

1130
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: True facts from Sophia Donna. But he just decided to

1131
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: cut her off quietly. I know some might find this

1132
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: week or letting her get away with it, But the

1133
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: problem is my mom feeds off of the conflict and

1134
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: anger of the situation. If my brother calls her and

1135
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 1: basically tells her to shut the f up. She'll find

1136
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: this his fuel to try to shut him down and

1137
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: screen but he's disrespectful and that American kids are disrespectful

1138
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: to their ale elders. We were born in California, but

1139
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: she was born in the Latin American country, and she'll

1140
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,919
Speaker 1: have this fuel to paint him in an even more

1141
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: negative light to the rest of the family. So yeah,

1142
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,479
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think about this often, but it's

1143
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: almost saving the other family and other people at like

1144
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: op for instance, from catching these strays and getting pulled

1145
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: into the drama by not giving the fuel up. I've

1146
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: never really thought about it that way. Interesting way to

1147
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: process it. Sister in law and other agree that letting

1148
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: her simmer without even acknowledging her is the best way

1149
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: to go. By the way, you know what the best

1150
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: way to go is saying what John, it's to go

1151
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: to Spotify, Apple I heeart are your favorite podcast app,

1152
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: and just to bliterate some episodes, obliterate, literate, obliterate your

1153
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: keyboard typing in Okay story time and getting two thousand

1154
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: episodes with episodes full of stories just like this to

1155
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: just binge binge to your hearts can have us in

1156
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: your ear holes for fifty straight days of original content

1157
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: and then attempt to convince me you've listened to all

1158
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: of them. I will be skeptical, but do your apois you,

1159
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,959
Speaker 1: but we will if you have good facts, we will,

1160
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, potentially give it to you. But we have

1161
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 1: still a little, a little chunk left in the story. Sam,

1162
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: how are we feeling right now with the I mean

1163
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: I feel yeah, I mean I feel at least no

1164
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: contact for a period for a bit, yeah, because this

1165
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 1: is uh the same. It seems like this this person's

1166
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: being pretty restructive and the insight like of hey, every

1167
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: time mom is just trying to like contact all these

1168
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: people stoke the flames. If we like stop responding basically

1169
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: to the fuel, does it does it kind of like

1170
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: die out as Yeah? I think it does. Yeah. Good.

1171
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: You can't fixate on something that doesn't have like as

1172
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: much new information, you know, it's or at least it's

1173
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: harder to do one hundred percent one hundred percent. But

1174
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: let's find out how this story is. So, I too,

1175
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: have decided to limit my contact with her. I think smart.

1176
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: I've always known she is a horrible toxic person. But

1177
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: no one saw her taking her negativity quite this far.

1178
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: It makes me fearful for my significant other how she

1179
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: would treat him, especially since he's not Latino. F that,

1180
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: I think we will all be happer in the long

1181
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: run without having to walk on eggshells around her. I'm

1182
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: just excited for the birth of my future niece or nephew.

1183
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: I can't wait to spoil hym slash her. Edit. In

1184
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: terms of cutting my parents off, I am not worried

1185
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: about losing anything. I am completely financially independent, so nothing

1186
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: can be held over my head. They've done this before.

1187
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: Hopefully distancing myself will not be too art. All right, Well,

1188
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: I mean, at least it seems like you can create

1189
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,479
Speaker 1: a clean break for the sake of your own mental piece. Yes,

1190
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: which is good and again great call up by OP.

1191
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: Help diffuse the situation by everyone not giving her something

1192
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: fuel to stoke the fire. Stoke the flames with and

1193
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: maybe this dies down, maybe she has some time to

1194
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: reflect and maybe and change your mind. Maybe not, but

1195
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: at least it doesn't get everyone sucked into the drama

1196
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: and take over your lives. Yeah, I agreed, but that

1197
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: is where that story and this episode ends. Says so,

1198
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: it is so so. If you love us, make sure

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00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: to subscribe. We love you, and seeing themorrow