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Speaker 1: On today's episode of the Command Center Podcast, We've got

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Speaker 1: the NFC's mega podcast. We talk about the coaching carousel. Man,

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's new coordinators, defensive coach were we

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Speaker 1: break it all down for you. We got free agency madness,

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Speaker 1: guys that are available, Guys that we could sign, Guys

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Speaker 1: that are available for different teams. It's nuts. And then

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Speaker 1: we do a way too early division preview. It all

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Speaker 1: starts right now. Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan

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Speaker 1: Paulson here with Fred Smooth, Jeff Guru and Santamas And

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Speaker 1: as always we are. The podcast is presented by Big

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Speaker 1: Bear AI Mission Ready, I for a rapidly evolving world.

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Speaker 1: And we were in the Big Bear AI Command Center studio,

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Speaker 1: Big Bath and Fred Valentine's day just happened.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And you know what, that's when I usually show

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Speaker 2: back up for fifteen.

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Speaker 3: I get back on the I get back on the radar.

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Speaker 2: Are usual to come up missing, like a week before

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving DNS, so big come fifteen, So I get to.

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Speaker 3: Miss out of major holidays. You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get you. I respect that I really wanted

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Speaker 1: to ask you.

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Speaker 2: D I guarantee somebody got him spot when you get

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Speaker 2: that text, what you do?

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Speaker 3: He was somewhere and somebody list.

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Speaker 1: But I really wanted to ask you, like when did

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Speaker 1: you guys fall in love with football? That's really what

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Speaker 1: I wanted. Okay, I know you want to talk about

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Speaker 1: something else.

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Speaker 4: He told us history.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: Mine basically was like you know, I mean soon as

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Speaker 4: as soon as you can ask me about the sport.

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Speaker 4: It was football, Like I didn't know nothing else. I

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Speaker 4: just knew that because the area you grew up in

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Speaker 4: her No, I don't. I shouldn't know my area. It

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Speaker 4: couldn't been my ere because we wouldn't where I was

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Speaker 4: at the time. It wasn't. I didn't see it. I

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Speaker 4: didn't see no one playing football. It was just something

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Speaker 4: that I got a love ball when I was young

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Speaker 4: at for I don't know when I was given you

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Speaker 4: know when it was given to me. Rather it was

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Speaker 4: my birthday, Christmas, whatever it may have been. I carried

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Speaker 4: I was asked. I was asked probably years later, probably

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Speaker 4: around five or six, what I want to be or

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Speaker 4: what I want to do when I grow up, And

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Speaker 4: just so happened. It was a football game on TV,

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Speaker 4: and I pointed the screen like I want to do that.

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Speaker 4: But for me to know that I had already been

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Speaker 4: carrying that same football around, sleeping with that football. Some

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Speaker 4: of them out with that football, you know how they

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Speaker 4: basically like six years old with a be But I'm

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Speaker 4: talking about this was like two, three, four years old

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Speaker 4: I mean five and six, I already knew this I'm

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Speaker 4: going to do. So I think that's when I fell

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Speaker 4: in love. And when I say fell in love with it,

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Speaker 4: it wasn't no. Just like you know, because I get

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Speaker 4: mad at the kids today because I'm like, it's impossible

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Speaker 4: for you to say you're.

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Speaker 2: A football player because you don't watch. You don't NFL,

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Speaker 2: you don't watch I would cry winning one football on TV.

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Speaker 2: And you know back in those days we had to watch.

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Speaker 2: What would you watch?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, where's football?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean? So, I man, everything was

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Speaker 4: football for me. You're talking about caring a by the girl. Nah, football,

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Speaker 4: talking about going and do something stupid in the streets.

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Speaker 4: Now football, you know what I'm saying. Like I literally

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Speaker 4: didn't want to do nothing but play football. I ate

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that about you.

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Speaker 3: No, I was crazy about it. I hate the one

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Speaker 3: we know how you get done.

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Speaker 4: I'm not even I want.

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Speaker 2: I know he was a six year old, but I

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Speaker 3: You ain't know what you were doing. You just got all.

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Speaker 3: I know. All I know my DNA is football. My

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you do it, man, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how you doing what constantly?

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Speaker 2: Just like he was six, I was negative three four

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Speaker 3: So I was born with the football in.

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Speaker 5: My head like John Henry right with the football. No,

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Speaker 5: all I'm saying is this. The doctor was like, what's this? Oh,

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Speaker 5: it's the football, Tata. I'm told nothing.

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Speaker 3: All I'm saying you know the story my mama.

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Speaker 1: So for the fans who haven't heard, it seems unlikely

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Speaker 1: at this point, but let's hear it again.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna take you back through it. It's something

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Speaker 2: Early seventies with late seventies weeks got to be like

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Speaker 2: nineteen said eight since I was born in seventy nine.

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Speaker 2: My mama was playing pick up and run, which is

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Speaker 2: She was like the younger sisters football brother Yeah. And

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Speaker 2: my mama is dad Lee. My dad is just a

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Speaker 2: pretty boy. My mama is Adleete.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So I get something for

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Speaker 3: both of them. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: You didn't get too bad.

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Speaker 3: You ain't getting pretty much.

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Speaker 1: What is going on?

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Speaker 2: And uh my mama out there told the Tata on them.

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Speaker 2: I think she went for about three four tubs that day.

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Speaker 2: My uncle Hitter knocked it down real horse. She started

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Speaker 2: throwing up. They took it to the hospital. They were like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you're pregnant with the NFL player.

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Speaker 1: I said that because I just like NFL player.

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Speaker 4: That's smooth, he's going pro.

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Speaker 3: I can feel this. I can feel his pinky toe.

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Speaker 3: Now we don't. That's true, Jesus. So it was the

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Speaker 3: fetish for me.

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Speaker 1: If you can beat that, I can't beat it. I

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Speaker 3: But that's how you know.

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Speaker 2: You just lie so much because you didn't know you

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Speaker 2: You didn't know you fell in.

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Speaker 4: Love with football.

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Speaker 3: You just I love you know what that crying over.

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Speaker 4: Like yourself fun that's what he did.

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Speaker 3: It's the truth. The truth is funny. It's funny like truth.

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Speaker 3: Mom told the store. I had to believe.

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Speaker 1: You, man. It's a great story. It's a great story.

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Speaker 2: I think you're just blown away because of the age gap.

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Speaker 4: And it wasn't no he wasn't no gap. So you

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Speaker 3: I'm going to do it.

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Speaker 4: I was in the feat.

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Speaker 1: I was negative three months. So that's how these guys

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Speaker 1: fell in love with football. Leave a comment how you

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Speaker 1: fell in love with wall? When you fell in love

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Speaker 1: with football? You dude, you know it's funny. I was

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Speaker 3: You didn't playball?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like high school.

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Speaker 3: It was this big just used to dude.

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Speaker 1: So I was. My mom was like, we don't want

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Speaker 1: I played soccer, basketball, baseball. You're the biggest kid out there, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so like there's pictures of me playing soccer and

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Speaker 1: in high school I was like six four, like two fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Just be just big, yeah, because soccer is not a

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Speaker 1: yes right, And so I was in the god man.

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Speaker 2: That there looking like they were here there, what are

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Speaker 1: And so the football coach was like, oh no, actually,

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Speaker 1: my dad's I me up for football because he wanted

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Speaker 1: I'm a little you know, yeah whatever, so kind of

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Speaker 1: So I just was like quiet and they had The

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Speaker 1: Did that and slowly built it up, and.

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Speaker 3: That's you end up making a career at it.

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Speaker 1: Didn't even try. I mean I did try. I just

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Speaker 2: But see that's the differen between me and twenty and

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Speaker 1: I still got I still got some longevity.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, size can't be bound.

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Speaker 2: Like when we played football and we go high school, college,

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Speaker 2: it's always guys on our team. This six five, two

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Speaker 2: side with us. We we had to make a difference

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Speaker 2: much to other just fast, small guys, but you big guys.

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Speaker 3: It's like three of y'all in East.

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Speaker 4: High school and just picture us, one of us being

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Speaker 4: got us. They would have been like, well they can play.

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Speaker 4: Because I remember I was playing football at this point

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Speaker 4: five years. And when I told other, you know, my peers,

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Speaker 4: was like, oh, no, you're not You're not a receiver.

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Speaker 3: Oh no way, you're not a receiver.

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Speaker 2: And at that time I was barely pushing four eleven,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like I was ninth grade

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Speaker 2: and I was puny, you know, so guys like but

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Speaker 2: then the guys who played with me and and Optimism

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Speaker 2: or a little league, They're like, oh no, he can play.

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Speaker 4: He can play receiver, in corner, he can play what

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Speaker 4: he wants.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like in high schoo if you had

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Speaker 1: never played football, if I would have saw you run track,

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Speaker 1: I'd have been like if being in high school football

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Speaker 1: coaches were like, come on down, yeah yeah, fast like

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Speaker 1: speed kills Fred. I don't know what your thing would

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Speaker 1: have been like, because you would you were small and

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Speaker 1: slow in high school and skinny and skinny sort of.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you can stay, but keep them there.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I was born to play these games, you know,

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Speaker 2: little guy, you know, but.

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Speaker 1: You were like a little bit of a late bloomer though,

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Speaker 1: right like sophomore year right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well year I just exploded.

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Speaker 2: But in my high school we playing championship five A football, so.

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Speaker 3: You got to wait to play.

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Speaker 1: Ye, look at good players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah this is not coming here as a night grade

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Speaker 1: So this division, man, yeah, totally flipped on its head

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Speaker 1: from a coaching stample. No, I was like, right, So

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna tell you who I feel sorry for.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts has had a different offensive coordinator every year

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I don't bless that on.

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Speaker 2: Usually the resume when you get that minute, coordinators the

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Speaker 1: And what do you think about the Shawn Manion higher

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Speaker 1: Because again he's a guy that hasn't called players before.

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Speaker 1: He's a quarterback coaching Green Bay. It just seems like

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Speaker 4: I think you can take it as Sirianni. I mean

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Speaker 4: But to me, see, I look a little deeper, deeper.

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Speaker 4: They say, hey, he come from Green Bay like that

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Speaker 3: So that's how I'm looking at it.

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Speaker 4: Screw the youth, screw this the first time he's doing it.

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Speaker 4: And I think too when you look at it, because

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Speaker 4: Big picture, it sucks to be the quarterback. It sucks

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Speaker 4: it stinks. I can't say Jalen has stunk the whole year.

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Speaker 4: But I'm just saying we've seen him effect, We've seen

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know, And I think this is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they take it out of football.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're certainly legislated in a way or call

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Speaker 3: That's takes its correct.

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Speaker 2: But I just feel like the Eagles have jumped off

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Speaker 1: I think they're having a hard time run it the

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about, We're gonna talk about all

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Speaker 1: Jeff Stotlin, who's been the offensive line coach there for

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Speaker 1: thing that has been the back is the offensive line. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and if he's not there anymore, do you still get

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Speaker 2: You don't take people out and they're good and get better.

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't happen. Like coaching matters.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I hate to see the the whole

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Speaker 4: for someone new, like shouldn't it go yet?

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Speaker 1: A year?

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Speaker 4: Like you should because last year wasn't the same, You

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Speaker 3: They had a lot of injuries.

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Speaker 1: So what I heard is that Sean Mannion wants to

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Speaker 1: that's been literally like an icon there for a long time, like,

441
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Speaker 1: does that undermine everything that makes that offense work? And

442
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Speaker 1: that would be my big question. Yeah, let's move on.

443
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Speaker 1: I think this is maybe the most interesting team in

444
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Speaker 1: terms of coaching moves this offseason is the New York Giants, right,

445
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 1: They higher Jim Harbaugh. They have a new offensive coordator

446
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 1: and Matt Nagy, and obviously Denard Wilson, the former defensive

447
00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 1: coordinator for the Titans, is now the defense coordinator there.

448
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Speaker 1: That just seems like a totally new deal. And then

449
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Speaker 1: for a kind of a CEO type head coach in

450
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Speaker 1: Harball to go hire at least Naggy offensively seems I

451
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Speaker 1: don't like a like a miss but doesn't seem like

452
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Speaker 1: a home run to me.

453
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Speaker 3: I don't.

454
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Speaker 2: I think Naggy might get a bad rap for what

455
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Speaker 2: happened in Chicago.

456
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Speaker 1: I mean it was, but it wasn't.

457
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Speaker 3: It was terrible. Okay, it was terrible.

458
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Speaker 2: But you you know this, You coach, because you're a

459
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Speaker 2: great coordinator, don't make you a great leader of men.

460
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Speaker 2: That is true, and maybe some people are just better coordinators.

461
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Speaker 3: We've seen this happen over and over again.

462
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Speaker 1: What we're talking about to do from New England? Right

463
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Speaker 1: the offensive corda o'donald No, no, no, no, no McDonald.

464
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Speaker 3: I just blowed my mind right now. But he can't

465
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Speaker 3: hit coach. He's a great OC.

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald is that at America.

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Speaker 3: No mc McDonald is the I mean it's the head

468
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Speaker 3: coach for Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. Yeah, I mean it's got us. But

470
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Speaker 1: is acting up here?

471
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Speaker 3: Everybody can't lead me? Now? He go the things that

472
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Speaker 3: I love.

473
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Speaker 2: I see what the giants are doing with high body

474
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Speaker 2: search and for stability. They searching for stability and to

475
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Speaker 2: get back on the right track. And also the one

476
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Speaker 2: thing Hagby that I love.

477
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Speaker 3: He's won the Super Bowl somewhere.

478
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Speaker 2: I mean head coaches don't win Super Bowls in the

479
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Speaker 2: second place, they.

480
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Speaker 3: Don't do it. It hasn't happened. So I'm good.

481
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're happy about it.

482
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Speaker 3: I'm happy that they had Harbor.

483
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Speaker 1: Who is the.

484
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Speaker 3: Offensive coordinator Patriots, Josh Josh.

485
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Speaker 1: McDaniel, Yeah again, you think it might you think Jim Naggy.

486
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Speaker 3: Is, Yeah, Matt Naggy.

487
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Speaker 2: Matt Naggy is basically McDaniel's I can't lead me in,

488
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Speaker 2: but I can.

489
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Speaker 3: Call some play like he can call play in.

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Speaker 4: The pressure out on what I think also too, when

491
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Speaker 4: you get a guy like that who's capable of calling

492
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Speaker 4: plays and been under you know that leadership of another

493
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Speaker 4: guy who's a dominant force read and to read and

494
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Speaker 4: being that he's an offensive genius offensive mind, you don't

495
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Speaker 4: take something you don't really have to. You're getting a

496
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Speaker 4: lot of credit for somebody else's work. So to me,

497
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Speaker 4: it's now you're on the.

498
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Speaker 3: Now it's gonna be your show again.

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Speaker 4: You under the microscraft you under because because Harbor ain't

500
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Speaker 4: calling no place, so it's gonna be you. But in regardless,

501
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 4: if you can lead men as a whole as a team,

502
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 4: still got to lead his offense, and it's gonna some

503
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Speaker 4: Being that as a young quarterback, it might not be

504
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 4: a bad thing for him because it seemed like when

505
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Speaker 4: he had justin fields, he was young, so he was

506
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Speaker 4: able to be that superior and not have a voice

507
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 4: another voice because you know, most of time when you

508
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Speaker 4: get veterans. Now, if he had a he had an

509
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Speaker 4: Anne Rodgers is a rap from Aaron gonna say, Noah,

510
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Speaker 4: scrap that ain't working. We're gonna do this. But being

511
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Speaker 4: that as a young guy, he might have a say,

512
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Speaker 4: got some talent.

513
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Speaker 3: In New York.

514
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Speaker 2: You got dudes up there to make something out of

515
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Speaker 2: the offense. But like I said, how much is the

516
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Speaker 2: hobby effect gonna lead to two championships?

517
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Speaker 3: That's the question.

518
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think so. To me, the Matt Maggy

519
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: hire is interesting to me because everyone kind of is

520
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Speaker 1: moving towards this under center outside zone play action heavy

521
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Speaker 1: and he's a shotgun and he's a he's a shotgun

522
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: spread guy. Yeah, and so I know that might help

523
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Speaker 1: out Jackson Dart a little bit, but I won't.

524
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Speaker 3: Help out Cam scat him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, It'll be interesting to see how that works, because again,

526
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Speaker 1: it seems like the league is kind of swinging back

527
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: with all these different coverage structures. The midfield open light

528
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: box looks to get back to frunt of the football.

529
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Speaker 1: And that's not really been hismo, that's not been Andy reid'smo.

530
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Speaker 3: But it's Hotba's mo with to run the ball.

531
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Speaker 1: So is there friction? There is my other question.

532
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Speaker 2: I'm quite like this, if the over under own how

533
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: many outfits coordinated this hogbog going hey in his time

534
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Speaker 2: in New York, I'm gonna say multimle.

535
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say moutim. This is not the end. I'll

536
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Speaker 3: be out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think that's kind of the funny one there,

538
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: the Matt Naggie with John Harbaugh, because they seem to

539
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Speaker 1: kind of be.

540
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Speaker 3: And let's be honest, he went his first peak.

541
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Speaker 2: Todd Monkey got to clean the job.

542
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: That's right. That was the other The crazy thing about

543
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: this coaching cycle. There were so many vacancies, guys getting

544
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Speaker 1: bumped up the list.

545
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Speaker 2: Guess what, And it was the ultimate reset. A lot

546
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: of guys said I want the retrades. Yeah, Like usually

547
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: retrade meaning I'm gonna get a job instantly, not no more.

548
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Speaker 3: They were like, now I'm gonna take you on to study.

549
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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that's a great point. I do

550
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Speaker 1: like that Nadaran Wilson Hire, especially with the defensive lineup

551
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Speaker 1: in New York. I think that's gonna be a problem.

552
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,959
Speaker 1: The way he was able to create pressure down in Tennessee.

553
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Speaker 1: That's something that I'm gonna be could be a problem

554
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: moving forward. But again, I think there's gonna be a

555
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: lot of friction on the offense side of the football.

556
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. The Cowboys DC is Christian Parker.

557
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Speaker 1: He was the dB pass game coordinator for the Eagles.

558
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Speaker 1: So again there's that quarters big Fangio, which is what

559
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald runs. Yeah, Fangio runs it. Some of the

560
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: best defensive the last couple of years have been this system.

561
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Speaker 1: So my question there is you need horses to run that,

562
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Speaker 1: specifically defensive lineman, and do you have enough, Like if

563
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Speaker 1: you look at their free agent roster, like all the

564
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Speaker 1: defensive ends are leaving.

565
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Speaker 3: They got some first round picks, they.

566
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna have to They're gonna have to make

567
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Speaker 1: some investment there.

568
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Speaker 2: You have to say my camp room, they I don't

569
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Speaker 2: think they could say nobody.

570
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the feel and nobody Yeah, they're thirty

571
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Speaker 1: six million dollars over.

572
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Speaker 2: The they's selling everybody. I'm talking about who And then

573
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, who are you paying?

574
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and all like all.

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Speaker 4: That comes to mind is dad, CD and DAK and

576
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Speaker 4: you got office an office the line, dude, Tyler Smith, No, No,

577
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Speaker 4: they played Did they play them on the defense?

578
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Speaker 1: Defensive line? I don't know.

579
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Speaker 4: They paid the ConA back two years ago. They paid

580
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Speaker 4: two years ago.

581
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Speaker 2: I just don't how do he wipe out sixty I mean,

582
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: thirty six million dollars just get you to zero dollars.

583
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Speaker 1: A lot of restructuring is going to be involved there.

584
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're an instring spot again. I think Chris

585
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: Christian Parker that defense has shown that it can be successful,

586
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: but you need good defensive line. You need to be

587
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Speaker 1: a risk before you need excellent coverage players. And it

588
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: just seems like they're far away from a personnel standpoint,

589
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Speaker 1: because I've seen teams try to run that without a

590
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Speaker 1: good defensive line and it don't work and they get eviscerated.

591
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: So we'll see what they do with their the all

592
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: their draft capitol, like Fred was saying, and so when

593
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Speaker 1: you kind of go down this list, and this is

594
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Speaker 1: honest to gosh, like, go down this list and kind

595
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: of get to the Commander's here with David Blou and

596
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: Dernte Jones, we look better than I think we do

597
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: look better. And I'm not just saying that because we're

598
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Speaker 1: here at Homer, right, well, I mean a little bit, right, Yeah, I'm.

599
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 3: A fan fan, But come on to truth vision Truth.

600
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 4: The truth is the truth.

601
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Speaker 1: Because I think, like, you got a defensive head coach,

602
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: he's great at building relationships. You get David Black who's

603
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: bringing this system that everyone wants to talk about, this

604
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: Ben Jackson, Kyle Shanahan, play action first and second.

605
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 3: Down, most tech out, three levels of the deep.

606
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. And he's going to have some autonomy

607
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Speaker 1: to do that. He's a first time play caller. But

608
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Speaker 1: he's not going to have the adversity of of of

609
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: Sean Mannion in in Philly, where he's got to negotiate

610
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: an offensive head coach. Right, It's going to be his vision,

611
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: which is great. And then I don't know if you

612
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: guys saw Deronte Jones' press conference last week, Yeah, like

613
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Speaker 1: I love it the idea of him being such a

614
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Speaker 1: teacher and so will to modify and adjust what he's

615
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: doing to support the personnel.

616
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Speaker 3: Like I love you know what, you know what.

617
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 4: I loved the body more than anything because this is

618
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 4: something that we all talk about and being the office

619
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 4: of guy. You know, I hear Logan bring it up

620
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 4: all the time, you know, we we we talked at

621
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Speaker 4: Nause him about three four four three, and he was like, man,

622
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 4: I can get there by.

623
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Speaker 2: I can get there with all kinds of looks. It's

624
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: many ways to get there.

625
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I say, Lord, have mercy and I

626
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 4: you know, like we just talked about being biased and

627
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 4: we are Homer. You know, it just got me up

628
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 4: because I'm like, bro, this is what we want because

629
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 4: you don't have to show me it so I can

630
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 4: know what you're doing. Just make sure they don't even

631
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 4: know what you're doing. I mean, show them something and

632
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 4: still get you know, get the job done. So I

633
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 4: love that part alone, because the same way we heard

634
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: our coach say we're gonna you know, ball is life

635
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 4: and all that that got us up and we saw

636
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 4: signs of that ball was life for us. We got

637
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 4: to the ball. You know, we wish we'd have had

638
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 4: a little more, but I just love the fact that

639
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 4: it's similar to what we've seen already. We saw this

640
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 4: in Minnesota, so we know that he's been coached, he's

641
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 4: been under that coaching tree, that this is what they're

642
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 4: gonna bring and it don't necessarily have to be the same.

643
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 4: He said, I've been running a lot of great coaches,

644
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 4: so I got a lot of things from all those.

645
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Speaker 2: Well, the thing about it is when you on defense.

646
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 2: If I'm a player, I know if I'm on a

647
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 2: defense that's being but don't break. And I know if

648
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: I'm on the defense of we're gonna dictate the pace.

649
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: And we attack it.

650
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 2: When you attacking and always feel like the aggressor, you

651
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: never feel like you like I'm worried about the offense,

652
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: they worried about us, as long as they worried about

653
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: how we attack.

654
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: It, don't worry. That's why love Greg Will. At all

655
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Speaker 3: times we are attacking. They like Greg at thirty one,

656
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Speaker 3: We blitz.

657
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: We had a attitude, and that attitude led to us

658
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: being a top five defense every year. And that's what

659
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Speaker 2: I know, coordinator, they can get that out of players,

660
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Speaker 2: and guess what we don't. We got a style to play,

661
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Speaker 2: but our cows.

662
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Speaker 3: Vary from game to game.

663
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Speaker 2: They vary about we adjust the teams, but we still aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, So I'm really excited about Drawnte Jones. Again,

665
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Speaker 1: I think Tanda like the eclectic experience, like the difference

666
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Speaker 1: in background. He knows how to bring pressures, full man overloads.

667
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: He's seen the most aggressive. He's also seen more conservative defenses.

668
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Speaker 1: And the thing that again just resonated with me is

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Speaker 1: like he's like, we're going to develop, We're going to

670
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Speaker 1: develop people here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

672
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Speaker 1: I think when you look at the best teams, yes,

673
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: the best coaches, the best staffs, they develop talent. We

674
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Speaker 1: just talked about Philadelphia with the offensive line, how well

675
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Speaker 1: they knew there because they developed offensive.

676
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Speaker 3: Lineman they don't even play football.

677
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Speaker 1: Yeah right, right, So like, can we do that here?

678
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Speaker 1: And if and if he can do that, Yeah, that's

679
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Speaker 1: really exciting. And again, like we've talked about this play

680
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Speaker 1: action run first kind of set up easy shots for

681
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Speaker 1: the quarterback system under center, and if David Blob brings

682
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Speaker 1: elements of that here, I think that's going to be

683
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Speaker 1: tremendous for Jane Daniel and offense.

684
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Speaker 3: Jade just don't know how much they're going.

685
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Speaker 2: Like the one thing I can say, is any easy

686
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: throws do you get a quarterback? It's nothing easier than

687
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: throwing the ball on the second level behind those linebackers

688
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: when you just had a hard plays a bit, Yeah,

689
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: a hard play action with a running a quarterback that

690
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Speaker 2: can run. Yeah, the linebacker is gonna be stiffing up

691
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: with that lot of scrimmage.

692
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Speaker 4: You know, you know how many times I want to

693
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Speaker 4: see a boodoa or waggle just to see it, just

694
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Speaker 4: to get him outside and not have to put so

695
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Speaker 4: much pressure on him to find the open guy in

696
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Speaker 4: his pocket. Like, And don't get me wrong, I'm not

697
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Speaker 4: saying we didn't have that in our game plan, but

698
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Speaker 4: it wasn't. I watched other quarterbacks, young quarterbacks, and then

699
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 4: I watched the way that they called plays for these

700
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 4: quarterbacks around the league last year, and I'm like, this

701
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Speaker 4: is a this is a staff or this is a

702
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Speaker 4: coach that understands, Like, look, I understand he's he's dynamic

703
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Speaker 4: and doing certain things.

704
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Speaker 3: Why why see that all the time.

705
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 4: Let the dynamicness come about itself throughout the game. A

706
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Speaker 4: lot of him getting comfortable because we put him in

707
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Speaker 4: situations that was favorable for him.

708
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, and I think it's interesting to hear him

709
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Speaker 1: talk about, like, you know, we want to make first

710
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Speaker 1: and second down easy for him so that when it's

711
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: time to put the cape on on third down, now

712
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: we can do it. I think that's a great understanding

713
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: of not only Jade Daniels as a player, but the

714
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: NFL landscape as a whole. Like you need your quarterback

715
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Speaker 1: to be special in those high leverage moments. But if

716
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Speaker 1: I'm asking him to be special all the time, it's.

717
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Speaker 3: Nobody could keep it up.

718
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: It's too much, right, Nobo keep that.

719
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Speaker 3: We've seen that with Pat Mahons so so much.

720
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Speaker 1: I understand those are like the preliminary press conferences, but

721
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Speaker 1: they say all the right things. The demeanor was right.

722
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Speaker 4: So and now we got to go out and do it.

723
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it out there to do it. That's

724
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Speaker 1: exactly right.

725
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Speaker 2: All right.

726
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Speaker 1: Now, as we head into our free agency madness segment,

727
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Speaker 1: let's spay, let's pay bills real quick. So we got

728
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Speaker 1: West Virginia and we got guy Coe boys up team.

729
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Speaker 4: It's time to call a winter audible because when the

730
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Speaker 4: attempts drop, the real magic kicks off. In West Virginia,

731
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Speaker 4: I think trails that crunch like game day, turf ski

732
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Speaker 4: runs for every level of fan, and cozy cabins that

733
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Speaker 4: won't break your budget, trade lift line chaos for wide

734
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Speaker 4: open slopes. The cocoa breaks by crackling fires and mountains

735
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Speaker 4: dressed to and press and they blanket of pure white.

736
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Speaker 4: So grab your squad, pack your cold weather swag, and

737
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Speaker 4: head to almost Heaven this winter.

738
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Speaker 1: Dude, he's got that, he's got that down. I feel

739
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Speaker 1: like I'm.

740
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Speaker 4: There just so in front about him.

741
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Speaker 2: You're like that kid that that mama gave him an

742
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: ice cream part first, I'm gonna go there in ice cream.

743
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: How do you feel when you switch the guy call

744
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: and save on your car insurance? It's like finding a

745
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: parked parking spot in front of the busy outdoor cafe

746
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: where you're meeting some friends from college and you're about

747
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 2: to parallel park into an old soo tight spot, and

748
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: then everyone in the cafe stops to watch, and you

749
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Speaker 2: nail it in one try. Like the parking level park

750
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Speaker 2: parking baller, you are nobody clept, but you know they

751
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Speaker 2: really wanted to.

752
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Speaker 1: Yep.

753
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Speaker 2: Switching to get COO and saving with Gotko feels just

754
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Speaker 2: like that. Get more with Geico.

755
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Speaker 4: I just hope God taught you a lesson liked.

756
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Speaker 2: I just hope God just shows you, man, he put

757
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Speaker 2: his hands on you the whole read.

758
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Speaker 3: And say, see, this is what I do to you.

759
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Speaker 2: This is what you see you when you said my

760
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Speaker 2: eyes I see you.

761
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Speaker 3: Over. You touched you. I didn't kill you nothing. He

762
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Speaker 3: touched you. He let you know.

763
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Speaker 2: This is the same thing I taught you when your

764
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Speaker 2: daddy was up there preaching.

765
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Speaker 3: To calm down, young man. Attention sitting here, jest, losing it.

766
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Speaker 3: He don't like you don't like.

767
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Speaker 1: It was so funny because I kind of felt like

768
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Speaker 1: you felt the heat from Tanna, like Canna brought it,

769
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Speaker 1: and you're like, I gotta bring it. And then it's

770
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Speaker 1: the first sentence. They were just like, well, do remember.

771
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Speaker 3: Tell the truth.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: I don't like to see boy with transmission fluid give it. Well,

774
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Speaker 3: you love to see free has failed.

775
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Speaker 2: But nobody want to talk about your army read that

776
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Speaker 2: you ain't nailed in ten weeks.

777
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Speaker 1: That's okay, I cant ri with that. You're right, we

778
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Speaker 1: can talk about it. Pup, actually, because no one seems

779
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Speaker 1: to care about it. All right, Shoot, here we go.

780
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Speaker 3: I gave y'all what y'all won't I get? Yeah, there,

781
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Speaker 3: y'all won't it right there? That's all y'all through that

782
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Speaker 3: y'all didn't show.

783
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Speaker 2: Y'all get now, y'all good at us?

784
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Speaker 3: You did it? Yeah, I'm still on San Francisco.

785
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Speaker 1: Boy. Okay, here we go, all right now, after that

786
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 1: wonderful read by Fred, when the free agency madness brought

787
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Speaker 1: to you by the US Army, be tested, but just

788
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: on paper, be strong and more than muscle, Be courageous

789
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Speaker 1: and supported by a mighty team. Be all you can be.

790
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Speaker 1: Visit go Army dot com to learn more.

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Speaker 3: That was all right, No, that was actually the base region.

792
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Speaker 3: He didn't Dan.

793
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, all right. So we got a lot

794
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Speaker 1: of free agency to talk about. Yeah here, okay, Yeah,

795
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Speaker 1: because the commanders have thirty four free agents, right, we

796
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: got a lot of cap room. We got a lot

797
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: of things to talk about. But I also think looking

798
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: at the division, there's a lot of big pieces that

799
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Speaker 1: are entering free agency. So I think let's start with

800
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Speaker 1: the commanders. Okay, where do we start? Okay? And I

801
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: was looking at doing some research before the show started. Fred,

802
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: you made fun of me for it and I look

803
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: at like positions of need for this team, okay, and

804
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: I say, we probably need some running backs because Eckler's up,

805
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: McNichols is up, and Rodriguez is a restricted free agent,

806
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: so we'll probably resign. But who knows. So really, the

807
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: only back on the roster right now is not his Bill.

808
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: And when you look at the running back market at

809
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Speaker 1: the moment, Kenneth Walker, Tyler Algiel, Raheem Moster, Breese Hall,

810
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: Bryan Robinson, Rashid White, Travis Atien, those are the top

811
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Speaker 1: ten guys. I think all those guys can play play

812
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: some football. Right, So people talk about like what do

813
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: we do in the draft, what are we doing for agency?

814
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Speaker 1: I think this is a a free agency kind of

815
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Speaker 1: position where we get a little.

816
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Speaker 2: Bit When you say the running back room, yeah, I

817
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: think question is what are you trying to add? Are

818
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Speaker 2: you trying to add a different element, meaning a different

819
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Speaker 2: type runner.

820
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Speaker 1: Than be So I was gonna ask you so to me,

821
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Speaker 1: I was like, he's gonna do what he did in Detroit,

822
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Speaker 1: which is unfair because that wasn't his show. It was

823
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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's show. But they had a big back that

824
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: got downhill. So that was when I wrote this list down,

825
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: I was like, Tyler Aldi, I know you. That was

826
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Speaker 1: what my brain said. That's what it makes sense to me.

827
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Speaker 1: And so like when you're looking at positions to phill

828
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: that seems like when you fill and then I look

829
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Speaker 1: at the edge class. Yeah, it's okay, always there, right,

830
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Speaker 1: he's a good player, boy, Mafe Jayden Phillips would be

831
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Speaker 1: a stud. But I would imagine Philly tries to resign him.

832
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Speaker 2: I don't think they gonna have a cat room to

833
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Speaker 2: do it. They got to resign in the Kobe Dean,

834
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Speaker 2: they got like, they got some some people.

835
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, and Amanda did such a great

836
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Speaker 1: job of giving us their free agents.

837
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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna trade aj Brown. They should free

838
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Speaker 3: up some money.

839
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Speaker 1: They but they got they got a bunch of different pieces, right,

840
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Speaker 1: They've got their two safeties, Nakobe Dean, Jalen Phillips, they

841
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: got some pieces on offense and are coming back, right,

842
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: so they and they got some money to work with, right,

843
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: and they always draft really well. But I don't know

844
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Speaker 1: if Jalen Phillips got out, yeah, I'd be doing backlups.

845
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Speaker 1: But that's the other thing I was gonna ask you,

846
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Speaker 1: because give me him. One of the things that Drontey

847
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: Jones talked about in this pressure was he wanted flexibility

848
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: on the defense. So like, who of these guys give that?

849
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Speaker 1: And is that something you want to attack in the draft.

850
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

851
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 2: If I'm a coordinated trying to establish myself, I want

852
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: the established players to establish.

853
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Speaker 4: So you want to go get some some some veterans,

854
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Speaker 4: some proving guys.

855
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Speaker 3: Season at least the guys I know what I'm gonna get.

856
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: So if I'm fixing the getting them, I want to

857
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Speaker 2: get it because this dude been doing it over and over.

858
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Speaker 3: So yeah, and here go think by edge.

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Speaker 2: You always want to get established edge with a young

860
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Speaker 2: age like you. You want that to be age appropriate.

861
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Speaker 1: Has that been your experience with the defense?

862
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Speaker 2: That's how I see the best defense is built wherea's

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Speaker 2: one age that been there and done that and another

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Speaker 2: a is that I'm just I'm eager to jump off

865
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Speaker 2: the boat.

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Speaker 1: I do want to put words in your mouth, but

867
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Speaker 1: you think we could sign a veteran edge. So let's

868
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Speaker 1: just take jail and Phillips Phillips as an example and

869
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: then draft someone at seven Bailey yeah, and just be like,

870
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Speaker 1: go hunt, let's go hunt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go hunt.

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Speaker 2: That would be a because now my young age won't

873
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Speaker 2: get double team because my old age with yeah so.

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Speaker 4: And heally learn on the flat watching the guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't like things you say normally, but

877
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: I just got like about that. I was like, let's

878
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: get going.

879
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 3: Come on, if I told you that's how we started

880
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 3: off the year with them two on the edge.

881
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: And then you got Dorian's armstrong in there.

882
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: Yes, like what about the rotation? Now look at this rotation.

883
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 4: Now that's that's that's some real depth.

884
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 3: Now we got things ooolves. That's what them dogs hunting

885
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: right there.

886
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: And I know we're just giving an example because but

887
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: Jaydan Phillips, boy in my fey, they're all young. Yeah,

888
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: they're all like twenty five twenty, And that's what you want.

889
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: That's what you want because now, like, the one thing

890
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: we can say that we do need is youth.

891
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: And if you need youth, I want youth with an

892
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: age they mean youth with some pips on the wall.

893
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: And then I want the one thing I love about

894
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: when we rookies, we don't know no better, we don't

895
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 2: know no better about losing by winning.

896
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: We just full speed, that's all. And I want that

897
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: age to be full speed, no till. I don't care

898
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 3: if it's technique bad. I want full speed off the buts.

899
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can dig it. And so the other one

900
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: that I look at when I look at our freegent

901
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: list is linebacker. Right, really, there's they got the two

902
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: young linebackers on the roster. Yeah, you got Frankie and

903
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: then you got McGee.

904
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

905
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: Rost I look at the free agent for the linebackers.

906
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's some ball players here, right, Devin Lloyd,

907
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: the young guy from Jacksonville. Yeah, yeah, I think you

908
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: had five picks this year. Four picks this year. Yeah,

909
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: one back floor test for a touchdown. Leo Chanel is

910
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: that kind of big edge shedding, just do everything? Yeah?

911
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: And so it talked about flexibility. Yeah, maybe that's the

912
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: right fit to Mario Davis older player, right, and then

913
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: you got Kayden Ellis, the great blitzer that was in

914
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: I forget where.

915
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: He was the Falcons.

916
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: Then he that's right, that's right. But think about how

917
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: effective he was as that blitzing former defensive lineman. I

918
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 1: think about the flexibility element. Seems like there's something there, Fred,

919
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: I don't know too. I don't want you think about that.

920
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just feel like, man, I'm see. This is

921
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 4: the thing about it, when when you're in free agency,

922
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 4: it's going to be so much out there for me

923
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 4: to pick front.

924
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: But I feel like some years there's not no, no,

925
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: it's not picked there.

926
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 3: It's like the grocery store fish.

927
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 4: Like when I look at Bradley, like this year is

928
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 4: one of those years. There's a lot of guys that

929
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 4: that flashed all year loan that was on other teams.

930
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 4: You say, he got sixty nine million.

931
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: Where do I start. Let's add some of these What

932
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: do I do with all this money?

933
00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

934
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 4: So, I mean we I feel like the balls are

935
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 4: our court. You know, I'm dribbling right now.

936
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm ready, And I think the thing about all these

937
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: guys is none of them are going to take like

938
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: a Max deal.

939
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can say nobody's the cream of the crop, right.

940
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: And I like, if I'm a GM and I'm shopping,

941
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: I'm always shopping two three and four, meaning I don't

942
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 2: want the top guy.

943
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 3: I want two three and four. The value is there

944
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: one two that the tag is not going to be

945
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: as high.

946
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 4: So the reason you're saying that because you don't want

947
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 4: to put so many in on one guy when you

948
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 4: can get multiple, I get multiple.

949
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: Guys, because I think that's the other thing too, with

950
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: thirty four guys in free agency.

951
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 4: Yeah you need depth, yes, but you don't want to

952
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 4: get that one guy somewhere somewhere else. It's always good

953
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 4: to get. So so tell me this. You a defensive guy, Yeah,

954
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 4: got three levels of defense.

955
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 3: Where do you want your one guy?

956
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: Well, this is what I'm saying, one guy that nobody

957
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: can just watch whatever it casts. I'm getting it when

958
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: I watched Sea out of this year that their dudes

959
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: they got in the draft. Yeah, but they don't got

960
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: they ain't got a top tend they got a top time.

961
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: To be fair, though, they did a good job to

962
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: Tennis point of getting like read right, yeah, run stopping

963
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: defensive tackle Williams, Leonard Williams for free agents. So that's

964
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like they picked the spot.

965
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: But Leonard Williams was not the number one guy in his.

966
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: Free agency and that's where like Jayling stood him the

967
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 2: stud but he was the second, third, fourth, got you pack,

968
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 2: So I would rather stre talking about with them too.

969
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 2: I don't mean to cut you off. Remember we said

970
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: that you didn't see one guy standing out on that front.

971
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: It was all of them went out there and say, hey, y'all,

972
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get fired.

973
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 4: You get fired.

974
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 3: I'm good.

975
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're good. Because now it's an offense. Let me

976
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: ask you all this, is it harder for y'all to

977
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: have a guy to y'all z row in on?

978
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

979
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 4: Is it harder for y'all to gat you got three

980
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 4: when you got multiple guys that can get you? Yeah,

981
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 4: and you ain't worry about just doubling the team that

982
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 4: one guy. Yeah? Yeah, I mean because you double team

983
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 4: one and then now what you're gonna do with the

984
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 4: other two? You see what I'm saying. So now you

985
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 4: got to be more. Now you got to play. I

986
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 4: guess you can say, what's the word.

987
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 3: I'm trying to play straight up ball. You gotta playoffs.

988
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 4: All equal mean, you better beat you, you better, you

989
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 4: better block your guy. It ain't no win, bring no

990
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 4: double team t because they got four or five?

991
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

992
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And so I think that's a great point.

993
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: Let's let's be honest, let's come to receiver. And so

994
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: I look at the receiver spot not quite as deep,

995
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: but like Juwan Jennings from San Francisco, kind of trusty.

996
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: Think about him pairing with Terry just like a solid

997
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: football player.

998
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: I love players in free agency that then played a

999
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: lot of playoff games.

1000
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: That's a great point. They know how to win.

1001
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: Like jen Is just I have been like, ain't no

1002
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: game you Finn put me in. It's too big for me.

1003
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: I've been playing in the playoffs for.

1004
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 3: The last five years.

1005
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: Like so, I love to get guys with playoff experience

1006
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: that's still in their youth right there.

1007
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so obviously George Pickens, that would be interesting

1008
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: because I know Dallas has talked a lot about Jerry

1009
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: Jones at the Super Bowl, talking about how they want

1010
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: to recite him. And I don't know if you want

1011
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: that kind of personality here, but he is a heck

1012
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: of a football player.

1013
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: Man.

1014
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 4: Listen, Sometimes you gotta get the ones that we might

1015
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 4: have to call the house a couple of times to

1016
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 4: make sure you.

1017
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: Need three of them on the team. You need three

1018
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: of us, then you gotta go.

1019
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 4: You gotta have you gotta have your security guys sitting

1020
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 4: out there in the driveway. Let him know, Hey, hey

1021
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 4: it's time to go.

1022
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm all right, I take a George Pickings all

1023
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 3: right with a heartbeat.

1024
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: But you got to make sure there's leadership there.

1025
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 3: That's what. Yeah, we got the leadership.

1026
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 4: We have leadership because you got understand and this is

1027
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 4: hypothelic speaking. We're not saying he's coming here. But if

1028
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 4: we had that opportunity, having a Terarry changes everything. Think

1029
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 4: about it. I'm not saying that. When I was here

1030
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 4: with with d Jack and Pierre, they you know they

1031
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 4: would have did. But I was in that room at

1032
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 4: times when maybe one of them just say, man, screw

1033
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 4: what the hell you know coach talking about and just

1034
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 4: me being a calm one, like, hey, bro, come down,

1035
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 4: we got we got ten minutes to get up out

1036
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 4: of here.

1037
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 3: Let's go.

1038
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Sometime you need that one guy,

1039
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 4: that even the one And because they gangsters at that time,

1040
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 4: they and the prime of the prime they got there. Man,

1041
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 4: they can do what they want to do with their

1042
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 4: eyes closed. But when you got a guy who also

1043
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: shows you he can do that. But you're much older

1044
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 4: and you looking at it like, you know what, man,

1045
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna calm down. Yeah, I'm gonna chill out, get

1046
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 4: him out of here. Then I can go out here

1047
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 4: and be that nut you know what I mean in

1048
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 4: the locker room. But I want him to be that

1049
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 4: unhedged doing the game because that's.

1050
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 3: What he brings to your team of age.

1051
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: And so that's that's an interesting idea because you can

1052
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 1: go like just hypothetically, Jawan Jennings and I do think Fred,

1053
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: you've done a little prep on this draft class. Yeah,

1054
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: that like there are good, really talented people in the

1055
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: receiver group like carne Take like it's due so and

1056
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: again even at seventy one, you're talking like Ted Hurst

1057
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: from Georgia, like Georgia Southern all this.

1058
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 3: We can go to John Carroll and get a receiver.

1059
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: But there's some talented pieces.

1060
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 4: So maybe you say, hey, no they gotta do no,

1061
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: I know they got one.

1062
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: We kind of go established guy, maybe less expensive, maybe

1063
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: less volatile, and then you say we got a really

1064
00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: talented upside.

1065
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 4: Piece that I definitely do believe that. I mean, with

1066
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 4: Terry being the guy who just got paid, I'm I'm

1067
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 4: almost sure they're not gonna go pay another guy that

1068
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 4: kind of money. But it's a lot of guys coming

1069
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 4: out in this draft that I feel like I would

1070
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 4: go get one of those twitchy, fast guys that that

1071
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 4: that can do similar to what we see or what

1072
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 4: we have, has a little something else to him that

1073
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 4: we don't have.

1074
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: But don't forget about Traylon Burt.

1075
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 4: No, I'm not forgetting.

1076
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: I think that's the guy you bring. Priority is for

1077
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: me to resign him because to me, that he's gonna

1078
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: he's probably gonna have, but he's probably gonna have a uh.

1079
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 4: I think that.

1080
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: I think the relationships he's made here, he's gonna give

1081
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: us first deals on getting him back, and I don't

1082
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: think it's gonna take money.

1083
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 3: I think so too.

1084
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 4: With me being a receiver, I don't care what the

1085
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 4: team done. I'm looking at the quarterback. I'm looking at

1086
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 4: your situations. Is he a difference maker? And do I

1087
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 4: have a chance of being a part of what they're doing?

1088
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying already. To me, I feel

1089
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 4: like he has a huge opportunity to come in here.

1090
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: And this is the don't they're truly guaranteeing that, Hey,

1091
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 3: you gotta roll.

1092
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point, and again like maybe that's

1093
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: kind of what we're talking about. Maybe he's like your

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00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: high upside young younger guy, and you sign an older

1095
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: guy to come in and kind of study the forewhill

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00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: that he developed. There's a lot of ways to do it.

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00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: But I do think that this year, especially, there seems

1098
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of like there's sometimes like last year,

1099
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: for example, we looked at the free agency market, it

1100
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: was like, man, I don't know, yeah, and that's that's

1101
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: somebody's fault.

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00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 3: That's just how that's the flow of it. Who gets signed,

1103
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 3: who don't get resigned?

1104
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: And I think the other position that I hear a

1105
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: lot of people talking about in the fan community because

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00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we got Benson and we got

1107
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: John Bates, really good players. We're getting a little bit

1108
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: more dynamic playmaker when you look at it. I'm just

1109
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: gonna read some names off to you. Okay, young names. Okay,

1110
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: we got Kyle Pits, sign me up, Dallas Goddard, we

1111
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: got Isaiah.

1112
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 3: Likely likely I like right there.

1113
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: Likely, David and Joku.

1114
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 3: I like him too, but he getting a little We

1115
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 3: got Chigg from.

1116
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: Tennessee, the Titans guy. You know what he can he

1117
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: can cade Auten, right, we got I mean, there's Tyler

1118
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: Higbee man. There's no Higbee bowlers here, right. So I

1119
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: look at this and I'm like, I know, I say it.

1120
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: I don't like the first guy.

1121
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 4: I say, it's time you look at what we have

1122
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 4: likely to me, would would fit because you have a

1123
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 4: guy that can block. You have a guy that can

1124
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 4: block and catch and move around likely that can just bet.

1125
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 2: I'm about that pits. Well, I'm saying I don't think

1126
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: he didn't reach his peak.

1127
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: Well, so what I'm what I would say to this too,

1128
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: is like, so let's say you need a dynamic, dynamic

1129
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: play making piece for the offense, just hypothetically right, Like,

1130
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: and I think that's we all agree. But with the

1131
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: tight end, you're going to pay least seventeen million for

1132
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: receiver you're probably playing closer to thirty.

1133
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe you can get him.

1134
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: You get the dynamic draft, but then you get the

1135
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: dynamic tight in and he opens it.

1136
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: Like, do you know what a cow piece to do

1137
00:48:59,080 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 3: for Terry?

1138
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you got to use him, right. I

1139
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: think that's what the last couple of years.

1140
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 4: And I think, to me, the only thing about the caw,

1141
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 4: piss thing bothers me at times, I don't know if

1142
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 4: he's he he can he can do anything else but

1143
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 4: line up wine. You know what I'm saying. I don't

1144
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 4: know if I can even see him put his finger.

1145
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: You don't know if he could play in last enough.

1146
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: I knew a project for the Athletic on tight ends

1147
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: about him, and I actually feel like when they used

1148
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: them a little bit more in line and use him

1149
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: as a true type open he played better. They put

1150
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: him on the perimeter, because I feel like that.

1151
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: But my more so, I'm not talking about putting your

1152
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 4: hand in the dirt and getting off the getting off

1153
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 4: the I mean get a line of scrimmage and catching

1154
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 4: a route or running the route.

1155
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: I'm talking about blocking.

1156
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 4: If I have to fool him and say he's on

1157
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 4: the line now, he got to go out here.

1158
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1159
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: So I mean he did a great job. Like the

1160
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: other players of the games I watched, I was like,

1161
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: this is for a guy he's as athletic as he is.

1162
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: This is this is passive. That's good.

1163
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 3: He's a willing block. That's good to not just feel

1164
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 3: I just I didn't watch enough to even see it.

1165
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: I feel like the Atlanta Falcons with the with the

1166
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: playmakers they had the last three years they underachieved, and

1167
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: they underachieved all of them.

1168
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 4: Because Piss is one of my favorites coming out few

1169
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 4: years ago. Yeah, out in Florida, Like think about this.

1170
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 4: They you know, you know how chef can get in

1171
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 4: the kitchen. I got too many, I got too much.

1172
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: To work with.

1173
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: I got b John Robinson, one of the best backs

1174
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: in football. I got Drake London the caffe. They couldn't

1175
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 2: feed everybody because sometimes they'll go like two games in

1176
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: a row and they just feed pits.

1177
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 3: Then they'll go five games. They won't even throw them

1178
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: the ball.

1179
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 4: They had to take that old coach Gibbs, uh uh,

1180
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 4: you know, way up doing things offensive. Coach Gibbs said, man,

1181
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 4: look this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna keep

1182
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 4: this thing something. Ceep gotta get twenty five plus carriers

1183
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 4: and Tanna and Coolie, I gotta get at least fifteen

1184
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 4: attempts and that we're gonna win games. That will bro

1185
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 4: We won game in two thousand and five that way,

1186
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 4: and then we get a o s.

1187
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: And the people been giving in the Falcon last four

1188
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: year because they can't figure out these pieces.

1189
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: And so what I would say is hell the bad

1190
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: look see Fred's excited about Kyle Pittts, I am, but

1191
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: I will say there's depth in the tight end class

1192
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: was running back, so you can kind of make they

1193
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: can make the best selection for this organization. And then

1194
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: something went with the draft, which is pretty exciting.

1195
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 4: I feel like it's good to be us, you know

1196
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 4: what I mean right now when it comes to just

1197
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 4: you know what we have? You know, like, you know

1198
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 4: how this is when you go onto that that store

1199
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 4: and you're like, what the hell I want to buy?

1200
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know when you first get your leave. I

1201
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 3: tell people like the happiest moment I was like the

1202
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 3: first time I went to the grocery store and I

1203
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 3: could just buy with it. And I was like, you

1204
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 3: know what, everybody out, everybody out the grocery store. It's

1205
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 3: always good.

1206
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 4: And it's been like this for a while, So I

1207
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 4: want to I think the man above, it's always great

1208
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 4: to be just when we go out to eat, I

1209
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 4: ain't got to worry about asking my homeboys and say

1210
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 4: I just go in my pocket.

1211
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, Like That's how how I

1212
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 3: feel we are as.

1213
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 4: A team right now, So me it's hey man, yeah, coach,

1214
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 4: what you want?

1215
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1216
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 3: Who out there?

1217
00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 4: You want?

1218
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 3: Coach? I got it? You know you know what I mean?

1219
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 3: The play make on the off.

1220
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 4: Okay, let me give you this cow pits.

1221
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: And just to reminder, though they want, they want to

1222
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 1: spend money, but they got to building.

1223
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 3: They got to know to do. You know, you got

1224
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 3: to build a roster.

1225
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 2: In turn, though, you also got to say, Okay, I

1226
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: got this quarterback, I got this wide receiver. Like I'm

1227
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: gonna go about what I do get. I got a

1228
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: young running back, I got a left tack. I got

1229
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: left tack. I got a right tack in the right town.

1230
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: Let me hit me play maker it tight end like

1231
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 2: because if you get if you get to just say

1232
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: likely I pits. Ain't our office dynamic instantly? It's instantly dynamic.

1233
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 2: Now let me turn to the defense like it's it's

1234
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: that easy.

1235
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly that fend. Sometimes sometimes I have to

1236
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: draft good.

1237
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 3: This is my time, okay. I mean I want you

1238
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 3: to watch my podcast Road to the Draft to be

1239
00:52:55,640 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 3: now didn't know this name. This is my podcast. Now

1240
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 3: is the number one draft gurrule in.

1241
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: The building in the building. That's exactly all right, So

1242
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: I think, uh, that's it. And then so we're gonna

1243
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: do way too early NFC East predictions. But in the meantime, Fred,

1244
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: we got to pay some bills and let's not lose.

1245
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 3: This one.

1246
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,480
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1247
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Speaker 1: because I get it this.

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1249
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Speaker 4: I'll take it this.

1250
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: Time, just I mean last time, just to make sure

1251
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: you're okay.

1252
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Speaker 3: Really, I had to scroll because we ain't got nothing

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Speaker 3: but Virginia Lottery in the in the us R.

1254
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Speaker 1: Dude, man, you just be pulling for.

1263
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 3: Tatto man, y'all. Let me tell y'all something.

1264
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 2: It's just such a divide between ollfensit defensive players and then.

1265
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: Fred, you can't say that wasn't good.

1266
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: That was good, that was good, But you were just

1267
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 3: cheat up to by Jeli Todd.

1268
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: You heard it before he heard you heard me take

1269
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: it this before you brought the juice.

1270
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, man, y'all offensive players, man, listen,

1271
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm not man.

1272
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: I'm not man. Come Win, Fletch comes, you know, frix up, y'all.

1273
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: Each other all day? All right, let's get into the

1274
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: US Army. They say your work defines who you are.

1275
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, nine to five, you're clocking in. What

1276
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: happens on the weekend, what happens to your time? You

1277
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: could take it easy, or you could use that time

1278
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: to get better. In the US Army, we think differently.

1279
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: Your time should be used to improve the skills you

1280
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: do have to learn some you don't, to push yourself

1281
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: in new ways, Fred, because it's those days that truly

1282
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: define who you are. That's how you make progress, That's

1283
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: how you make an impact on the world around you.

1284
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: It's your time. How you spend it's up to you.

1285
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: It's your time. The US Army Reserve.

1286
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 3: I know why the fans don't like your reason was?

1287
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 4: I know?

1288
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: Now don't why because you sound like their principal sim.

1289
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: Period that come on the Fred Bud please come in.

1290
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 3: You sound like him. You know, no good news come

1291
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: from there. Everybody in the auditorium. You sound like principal

1292
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: building and this why don't.

1293
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: True like you know what? All right, great point, all right,

1294
00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: now it's the way too early NFC predictions. Yes, okay,

1295
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: I got you. Okay, right, well, you're gonna start right now. No,

1296
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: I was gonna read something real quick. I read Okay,

1297
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: how tight do you think the division will be in

1298
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six? The Eagles were the clear front runners

1299
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: most of the season last year, but they were only

1300
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: five hundred or all the other teams ended up Bowl

1301
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: five hundred. They were kind of the clear front runner. Ye,

1302
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: so does the dynamics shift new coaching changes? Free agency?

1303
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: We didn't really talk about Phillies free agency. They're pretty

1304
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: much they're all their safeties, linebacker, defensive.

1305
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 3: Line, they got some moude, they got some stuff to

1306
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 3: do tight end, Like.

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Speaker 1: They've got a bunch of things going on. Yeah, and

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00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: it feels like they're in a little bit more disarrayed

1309
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: than DRM books. Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So is this the year that they come back

1311
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 2: to the pack. Yes, I think this is the year

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00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 2: that all the teams get better. Yeah, because one thing

1313
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: about this nfcas Super Bowl years, we're only good when

1314
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 2: all the teams are good.

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Speaker 3: Like if you go back into the pass when we

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Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl.

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00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 2: I mean the Dadis Cowboys was good, the New York

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00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: Giants and Lawrence Taylor was good. Philly all always gonna

1319
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: have this certain standard, so good iron shoppings.

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Speaker 3: Iron.

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00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: Now, when I look at us compared to the rest

1322
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Speaker 2: of them, I can say this, all four of us

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00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 2: got quarterbacks. All four team got quarterbacks. All four teams

1324
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: got number one wide receivers. All four team got backs.

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Speaker 2: Right now, the question is can we catch up with

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00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: them on defense?

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00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 3: Defense?

1328
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: Saying can we some people in can we catch up

1329
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 2: with them defensively? That tells me where we're going to

1330
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 2: be that one side of the ball, because in all fair,

1331
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: in love and war, we're the same on our fens.

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00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: All of us got game breakers. All of us got

1333
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 2: some guys that can break the game wide open. Who

1334
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: can stop these game breakers? Is what it's about. Can

1335
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: we get those guys over here to get it done?

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Speaker 2: Well said, I think it's gonna be one of those things. Man,

1337
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 2: I'm always gonna be autimistic about what we can do.

1338
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 2: So I feel we definitely got to get We have

1339
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: no choice but to get better.

1340
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 4: Back against the now. For all the others, I don't know,

1341
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Speaker 4: I really don't know. I think Philly does us come

1342
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 4: down back to the pack. I don't see them having

1343
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 4: that thirteen twelve thirteen game, you know, winning season no more.

1344
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 4: I think it's more something. I think we're gonna shoot

1345
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 4: them up, bang bame. We're gonna beat each other up

1346
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 4: this year. You know, it's gonna be more one of

1347
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 4: those those fair because if you think about two years

1348
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 4: ago when Philly won it, it was all three of

1349
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 4: us that was kind of hanging around, you know. Giants

1350
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 4: was the only team that was just out of it. Yeah,

1351
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 4: you know, but Cowboys was decent. Yeah, we had a

1352
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 4: hell of a ride and Philly was the you know,

1353
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 4: and we had beat Philly once that year already, you

1354
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So I can see that coming

1355
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 4: coming back. But I can see all four of us

1356
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 4: out there really competing at a high level.

1357
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head

1358
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: there with your analysis talking about the defensive specifically, right,

1359
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: because everyone went out, they're all new defensive coordinators for

1360
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: the most part.

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00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 2: Right.

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00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: Obviously Philly keeps there. He's the staple. Everyone's trying to

1363
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: get to him. Yeah, but you know, obviously the Giants

1364
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: signed Denard Wilson, the Cowboys signed Christian Parker, we signed

1365
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: Derante Jones. Yeah, And I think when you look at

1366
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl.

1367
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 3: Right, defensive two defensive coach, it was a defensive game.

1368
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 2: It didn't get broke wide over to the fourth quarter,

1369
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: made the best defense win and that was the Seattle

1370
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: Seahawks and New England did still play Super Bowl winning defense.

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Speaker 1: And I look at where pressure packages are at now

1372
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: and their ability to impact the offenses and get them

1373
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: off their game script is at such a high level

1374
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: right now. So we I think everyone wants that person

1375
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: that can augment the offense that way and dictate to

1376
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: the offense that way. And so that's what it feels like.

1377
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: And so do I think Philly comes back. Yeah, I'd

1378
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: be really curious to see what Jackson Dark looks like

1379
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: in year two with Matt Nagi. We just talked about

1380
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: how that was kind of a weird like, we'll see

1381
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: what that relations. We don't know what it is. It

1382
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: might be fine, but I'm just a little skeptical of it.

1383
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: And again, Dak Prescott, that offense was one of the

1384
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: best in the NFL, and so how do you slow

1385
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: him down?

1386
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 2: And the defense wasn't But Quinn Williams in the dishes

1387
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: that they did make, they did make them. But the

1388
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 2: last two Super Bowl winning defenses did not to me

1389
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: have a top five defensive lineman.

1390
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 3: They had a group with even with Philly right point, yeah, yeah,

1391
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 3: they Brandon Graham and the rest of those do.

1392
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna push back on it, but I think

1393
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: you're right.

1394
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 2: No, they had a group and they can win with

1395
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: four if you can win Russian Ford, and that means

1396
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 2: actually that means you got six d line.

1397
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 3: That mean you've got two rotational guys and you got

1398
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 3: four starters they can get at you.

1399
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: So I think that that's the question is like how

1400
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: which defense develops the most and does the Philly defense

1401
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: regress because they're losing some pieces. And then my next question, offensively,

1402
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: to me, it seems like it's going to be a

1403
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: story dictated by quarterback play, And so I guess where

1404
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: do we see.

1405
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: I don't see it dictated by quarterback play. I see

1406
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: it dictated by oh C calling. These quarterbacks have been

1407
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 2: there and done that. They've proven that they can all

1408
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: ford play football. Who got the best play calling? I

1409
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: think gonna separate it to take the pressure off of

1410
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: these dynamic quarterbacks.

1411
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 3: Like so, I don't think it's on the quarterbacks.

1412
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 2: I think it's on the offensive play calls because they

1413
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: also changed over.

1414
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 6: I think every team changed their offensive coordinator, right know,

1415
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 6: except for Cowboys. Cowboys again and again. Clayton Adams from

1416
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 6: the Cowboys did a great job that you're talking about play.

1417
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 6: He didn't call the players, but like in terms of

1418
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 6: constructing game, like him and Deck locked in.

1419
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 3: They're locked in.

1420
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 4: You gotta think Seanenham had been there as an OC already,

1421
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 4: you see what I'm saying.

1422
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 3: So that had to me.

1423
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: It's like Blou, just like Blou gets promoted, him and

1424
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: Deck relationship is already organically there that you know how

1425
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: mean time dak The nagged to him about, hey, I

1426
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 2: don't want to we'renning this and he's sitting back listening

1427
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: now I'm your office coordinator.

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01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: I know what you I know what you know, what

1429
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: you like. And so I guess this leads me to

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01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: the ultimate question our way too early division preview, right

1431
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: is does Washington win a division?

1432
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 3: Yes?

1433
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 2: So how I think they win the division? We win

1434
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: the division because which come with new coordinators is unpredictability.

1435
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 2: They don't know what we are and they won't know

1436
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: what we are too, like week five, all right.

1437
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: I mean also that's true though for the offense, like

1438
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna still be figuring themselves out too.

1439
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna be figuring themselves out and layers as we

1440
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: go to both sides of the ball.

1441
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 3: And that's why I say I don't need to win

1442
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: the draft.

1443
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 2: I think if we can win free agency this this,

1444
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 2: that's that tender spot for me, free agency, not the.

1445
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 4: Draft, regardless if we win it to not want to

1446
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 4: be a good team, I don't think you necessarily have

1447
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 4: to win it to be a team that's in the hunt.

1448
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 4: That's that's you know, fighting the you know for super Bowl.

1449
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 4: So I don't necessarily thing we're gonna win the division.

1450
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 4: I think we got some we got because we got

1451
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 4: a lot of we got a lot of things. We gotta,

1452
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:40,919
Speaker 4: we gotta get better at you know what I'm saying.

1453
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 4: And it's too early, it's too too premature for me

1454
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 4: to kind of jump out there on that horse. I'm

1455
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 4: not saying don't do it, though, because somebody got to

1456
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 4: be me, right, I'm gonna be me, and I'm hoping

1457
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 4: I'm wrong. So, but I just feel like though I

1458
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 4: still feel that we could we could be good this year. Yeah.

1459
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: No, I think so too. And I think it comes

1460
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: down partially because there's so many the unknowns with the team. Right,

1461
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: Like Fred said, the free agency still got to happen,

1462
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: the drafts still gotta happen.

1463
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 4: How do we gotta we have to we have to

1464
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 4: practice like a championship team. We got to get back

1465
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 4: to that. Yeah, we had to get back to putting

1466
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 4: the preparation in beforehand. Because when I heard that thing

1467
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 4: about McDonald and how those that guys tackling the way

1468
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 4: they tackled all year long, I'm like, no wonder they

1469
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 4: flying around.

1470
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 3: That's why I'm calling for training camp to be in Carlist.

1471
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 3: Carlin ain't gonna make Carlin ain't gonna make your tackle.

1472
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: No, I just think being away where we can take

1473
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 2: you about the Richmond Richmond Carlin has done at the Richmond.

1474
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 3: Go back to Richmond.

1475
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 2: I just want the guys to be together, and I

1476
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 2: want them to be off by we forced the bun together.

1477
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: No, I think that's absolutely right. Yeah, but I was

1478
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: gonna finish my thought there. You know, Blows got to

1479
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: develop as a coordinator, Dronte Jones defense coming together. There's

1480
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: a lot of things that still need to happen. But

1481
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: if you hit on three quarters of those things, you

1482
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: kill the drafts and you kill the coordinator hires or whatever.

1483
01:03:58,960 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 3: Luck of health.

1484
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's a great point.

1485
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 3: And look of health, baby.

1486
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: I think it's because of how much flux there is

1487
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: throughout the division. It's kind of anybody's to be taking anybody.

1488
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 3: Anybody can win this division.

1489
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 2: But like I say, well the division with four good quarterbacks,

1490
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: all four team's got a chance.

1491
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, but I think that's going to do it.

1492
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,800
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