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Speaker 3: Happy Monday, everybody, Welcome to the Herd. It's me Jason

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Speaker 3: McIntyre in for Yes vacationing once again Colin Cowherd. I'm

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Speaker 3: joined by Rachel Nichols, and I'm just gonna say, right

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Speaker 3: out the gate, Holy coow, do we have a monster show.

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Speaker 3: It is an incredible week. You need to match my energy.

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Speaker 2: People.

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Speaker 3: There is so much happening. I just learned of a

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Speaker 3: huge NFL trade, fine, not huge, but involving my Jets

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Speaker 3: and the team I disliked the most, the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: We got March Madness starting Thursday. Rachel Nichols, I know

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Speaker 3: you're fired up. I know you're Northwestern Wildcats. Yeah, did

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Speaker 3: not make the tournament, but you still love March Badness absolutely.

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Speaker 4: I used to be a silent reporter for March Madness

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Speaker 4: with CBS. I love that game.

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Speaker 3: Remember, yeah, March Madness World Baseball Classic. I mean, folks,

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Speaker 3: we are just so blessed to these sports fans. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to start the show by turning back the clock

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Speaker 3: a couple of days to Saturday night. My family, you know,

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Speaker 3: we had plans so I couldn't go to the Lakers game,

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Speaker 3: the Lakers Nuggets game. I mean, I'm not embarrassed to say.

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Speaker 3: You know, we went to the cheesecake factory. Haven't done

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Speaker 3: that in a decade. Took the kids. It was great.

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Speaker 3: But I had to cue up Lakers Nuggets because it

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Speaker 3: was arguably one of the biggest games of the season.

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Speaker 3: And folks, I don't know, two weeks ago, maybe on

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Speaker 3: the show, other shows out there, people were saying Lakers

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Speaker 3: are not a championship team. What are you guys talking about?

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Speaker 3: You can't win a title with Luca. Well, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Lakers in overtime stun the Nuggets for their third straight

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Speaker 3: impressive win. They take down the Knicks, they take down

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Speaker 3: the Timberwolves, and they beat the Nuggets. And oh, by

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Speaker 3: the way, they swept the Timberwolves this season, three and zero,

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Speaker 3: and they're two and one against the Nuggets. So all

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Speaker 3: that talk Lakers can't beat the good teams, Well, they've

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Speaker 3: beaten three in a row now, so are they contenders?

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Speaker 3: And I asked this because the consensus seems to be

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Speaker 3: a Luca. Come on, he's overweight. What are we talking about?

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Speaker 3: Look at that game winning shot, folks with less than

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Speaker 3: a second left over Spencer Jones, Luca's first game winner

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Speaker 3: with the Lakers. Okay, And how everybody's back on the

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Speaker 3: Laker bandwagon. A lot of people were hopping off. You

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Speaker 3: know your boy, I went nowhere. Okay, Now, some things

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Speaker 3: have changed in the last few weeks for the Lakers,

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Speaker 3: but I want to start with the positive. Let's go

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Speaker 3: to JJ Reddick after the win. Look at the smile

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Speaker 3: from the Lakers head coach.

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Speaker 2: Is Coales A word?

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 5: Is it the right word for coming together? Yeah? Celling Coales,

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Speaker 5: you've readen my work. I don't use words like that. Okay,

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Speaker 7: I think it feels like we're Coales right now in

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Speaker 7: a really nice way. Still got a long way to go,

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Speaker 7: We've still got a long way to go, but certainly

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Speaker 7: optimistic with how we've handled this stretch of games and

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Speaker 7: going eight to nine over the stretch.

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Speaker 5: Is it's big time.

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Speaker 3: Big time is one way to put it. That's for sure.

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Speaker 3: I love this Lakers team. I do think they're going

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Speaker 3: to be dangerous. But what has changed? And that's the

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Speaker 3: interesting angle here. We know Luke is the man all this.

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Speaker 3: He's not First team All NBA, stop, folks. He leads

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Speaker 3: the league in scoring, averaging thirty two, eight and eight.

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Speaker 3: He's having a tremendous season, one of the best scorers

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Speaker 3: Reeves is starting to become the wingman that we thought

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Speaker 3: in part due to Lebron James. So, if you guys

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Speaker 5: Do you want me to compare us to them? No?

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Speaker 2: Was saying, so that like if you sort of as

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Speaker 5: It's like, that's a championship team right there. We're not

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Speaker 5: We're so on Werner's name. What are the biggest things

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Speaker 8: Has this, I can't sustain energy and that for forty

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Speaker 3: What's going on now? His his buddy Rich Paul had

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Speaker 3: been parroting this a week or so before, and it

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Speaker 3: was like, huh, what's going on in Lakerland? Well, guess what.

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Speaker 3: The Lakers have adjusted and Lebron's been a big adjustment.

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Speaker 3: If you guys have noticed. It's a small sample size,

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Speaker 3: but Lebron's numbers this month are way down when it

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Speaker 3: comes to shots and three point attempts. His minutes are

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Speaker 3: the same. He's just not the offensive threat he used

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Speaker 3: he makes big plays. He's a smart player. He's the

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Speaker 3: greatest player in basketball history. But he has forty one

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Speaker 3: years old. Okay, now here's where it gets fascinating. Listen

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Speaker 3: to how Lebron's tone has changed from February ninth. This

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Speaker 3: were carried by Luca and Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 8: I just want to continue to keep building good habits,

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Speaker 8: continue playing again in the right way. And Denver's a championship.

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Speaker 8: you know that's what we're trying to that's what.

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Speaker 3: So before we're not a championship team. Now we're striving

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Speaker 3: for it. It's all changed, folks. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you've watched closely. I know a lot of you vikers.

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Speaker 3: I'm so sick of them. They're a great show. You

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Speaker 3: got to pay attention. Lebron has shifted into full on

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Speaker 3: the stats. There was a moment in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 3: play right there on the screen. Lebron diving for a

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Speaker 3: loose ball. He kind of pulled a groin or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Him and Reddick joked about it afterward. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 3: I kind of laughed about it in the morning meeting. Remember,

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Speaker 3: Luca went to the Finals with the MAVs. We've been

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Speaker 3: Austin Reeves. That makes Lebron like PJ.

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Speaker 3: Now, don't scoff. Okay, don't scoff. PJ. Washington was integral.

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Speaker 3: He had one win over the Thunder in that postseason

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Speaker 3: run by himself. With the corner threes and defense. Lebron

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Speaker 3: he seems to have been bought into his new role.

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Speaker 3: He's taking fewer shots, he's playing more defense. Obviously, there

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Speaker 3: are questions, can you have him on the on the

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Speaker 3: one of the smartest players the league has ever seen.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about a guy who memorizes plays for the

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Speaker 3: telling you. Lakers have a massive game tonight in Houston,

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Speaker 3: Nonsense from some shall we say, some people that are

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Speaker 3: paid by the league to talk about the league but

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Speaker 3: aren't nice about the league. Lakers are contenders. They're seventeen

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Speaker 3: games over five hundred. Okay, Lebron's bought in Lucas cooking.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait for Lakers Rockets tonight. All right, let's

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Speaker 3: pivot to the World Baseball Classic. And guys, I'm watching

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Speaker 3: Side note, Oh my gosh, how good is this year

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Speaker 3: for sports? You had the winner Olympics, USA Canada hockey.

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Speaker 3: What a game? Now You've got the World Baseball Classic,

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Speaker 3: sports years of the century, folks, when you aline all

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Speaker 3: So the USA wins two to one to advance to

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Speaker 3: the final. They will play the winner of Italy Venezuela tonight. Now,

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Speaker 3: obviously everybody loves the vibes and the energy. It just

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Speaker 3: them out it at third. Just phenomenal stuff. Okay, this

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Speaker 5: Figure out better than the Plus series.

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Speaker 9: It's just, like I said, the fashion that these fans

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Speaker 9: there's nothing like it. And that's what you dream of

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Speaker 9: as a kid. I always been in my backyards playing

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Speaker 9: with football. This is the moments of dream, big spots,

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Speaker 8: Special that was.

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Speaker 3: All right, listen, you guys know I love Hot Take

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Speaker 3: Happy Hour. Come on, is that a little bit much

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Speaker 3: bigger than the World Series? Now, some jokers in our

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Speaker 3: morning meeting this morning to peel back the curtain just

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Speaker 3: a little bit, we're like, Wow, Aaron Judge is never

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Speaker 3: gonna win a World Series. So he's saying this only

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Speaker 3: thirty four years old. Lakers, not the Lakers. Yankees are

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Speaker 3: gonna be there for sure in the postseason and in

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Speaker 3: the mix. I don't know if they'll pull off a

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Speaker 3: World Series. But for him to say that about the

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Speaker 3: World Baseball Classic, that says a lot. And obviously Wednesday's

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Speaker 3: final is going to be enormous regardless of who we play.

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Speaker 3: Obviously Italy is on quite a run. But here's Mark

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Speaker 3: de Rosa after last night's win talking about the thrilling victory.

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Speaker 5: That was high level baseball at its finest.

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Speaker 3: Right, boy, that was unforgettable. Now, I will admit there.

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Speaker 3: You know, you look in the archives and see who

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Speaker 3: obviously the talent this year is off the charts. And

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Speaker 3: I did see that Wembin Yama played in the All

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Speaker 3: He wants to compete, and you saw it raise the

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Speaker 3: many good players are in it in the World Baseball

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Speaker 3: Classic now that everybody stoked for it. And obviously the

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Speaker 3: He's not athletic. But you know who else was an

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Speaker 3: If you watch Kim Booser play, his bag is ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I know they beat us here.

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Speaker 5: Give credit to his coach down there, give credit to.

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Speaker 3: Look at that. That's a great move. I like me

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Speaker 4: I don't know how to follow that take. I don't

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Speaker 3: Everybody was told on that believe it or not. I

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Speaker 12: All right, Let's talk about my favorite NBA player these days,

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Speaker 12: It was Wenby's second career outing with at least thirty

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Speaker 12: and one during this recent six game Homestand so what

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Speaker 4: Do you think they can win a title?

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Speaker 12: Go against all NBA regular common sense.

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Speaker 4: You can't win a.

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Speaker 3: That those highlights defensively, we didn't show any, but did

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Speaker 4: It's ridiculous. Jalen Brown. Did you see what he said

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Speaker 12: Jalen Brown came out and said, I'm the best two

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Speaker 4: Non Wemby Division.

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Speaker 12: Right, So guys around the league are saying like, it's

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man. You can look at the numbers

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Speaker 3: They're gonna win the title.

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Speaker 3: I think they're better. I mean they proved head to head,

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Speaker 12: And this is a franchise that had you know, Tim Duncan,

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Speaker 12: It's just gonna be interesting to see how they treat

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Speaker 12: came out and was like brash and bold and said

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Speaker 12: all those things, you'd be like, okay, yeah, but he's

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Speaker 12: just you're right, It.

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Speaker 3: Just sounds like there's a lot to like about him. Oh,

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Speaker 3: he just seems like a good dude.

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Speaker 4: You know where I am.

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Speaker 12: I think he's going to be a top five temp

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Speaker 12: player of all time. He could easily make this whole

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Speaker 12: Lebron MJ discussion a moot point. I think that's how

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Speaker 12: good he is, and it's just obviously an injury.

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Speaker 3: You know, we would change that, but spicy, I thought

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Speaker 3: Kit's boozer was twicey could make Lebron MJ moo. Kobe

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Speaker 3: fans are upset with you.

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Speaker 12: Oh I know, okay, all right, Kobe fans kareem fans anyway,

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Speaker 12: all right, you just mentioned Jason Tatum, right, let's talk

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Speaker 12: about him.

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Speaker 4: Past another milestone in his recovery.

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Speaker 12: Over the weekend, he played the full third quarter and

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Speaker 12: Celtics went over Washington, and after the game he said

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Speaker 12: that wasn't the initial plan to play the whole quarter,

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Speaker 12: but he feels more comfortable in game four of his

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Speaker 12: comeback than he did in game one. Jason, I think

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Speaker 12: that Tatum.

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Speaker 4: Being back like this, they are the favorites in the East.

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Speaker 3: What do you think what happened to the Pistons?

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Speaker 5: Huh?

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Speaker 3: I'm just telling Cunningham sinking like a ship.

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Speaker 4: You don't, you don't.

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Speaker 3: I just the Detroit fans were a little insufferable when

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Speaker 3: they were smashing my next I still Listen, the Knicks

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Speaker 3: were up on them last year before.

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Speaker 12: The Tatum injury, but this is a different Celtics team

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Speaker 12: though last year.

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Speaker 3: That's a good point. Are they better than last year?

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Speaker 12: It's interesting they cut a bunch of salary, yeah, and

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Speaker 12: everyone was like, yeah, that's a gap year, that kind

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Speaker 12: of thing. Joe Mizula doesn't do gap years. Jalen Brown

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Speaker 12: doesn't do gap years. And then to get Tatum back

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Speaker 12: for this stretch run is pretty incredible.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 12: Obviously it's going to depend on their center play a

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Speaker 12: little bit and like whether it holds up during the postseason.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know.

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Speaker 12: I feel like for you guys, the Knicks fans, it's

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Speaker 12: hard you watch that window open and then maybe close

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Speaker 12: again in six month periods.

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Speaker 3: I mean, so it's a small sample size. How many

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Speaker 3: games you played, like six four? Okay, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 3: We'll see who's their third best player. By the way,

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Speaker 3: so it's Brown, Tatum, and is it Pritchard or White.

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Speaker 12: I think it's probably, well it's time. Maybe I was

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Speaker 12: gonna say Richard, but it's probably.

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Speaker 3: Do you think the Knicks matchup good with them? Rachel?

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Speaker 3: They do?

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Speaker 12: Are you saying I'm not saying it's like, oh my god,

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Speaker 12: runaway favorite Michael Jordan and the Bulls.

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Speaker 4: I just I think they're the favorite now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean heart Brunson. If Mitchell Robinson can ever

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Speaker 3: get to make a free throw with you like this year,

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Speaker 3: But it's Celtics, that's gonna be a great series. So

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Speaker 3: what is it? What's the order now? Is it's who's

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Speaker 3: number one?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 4: Still I think I think they're yeah, and Celtics or.

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Speaker 3: Two, I say so, and the Knicks are three as

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Speaker 3: are feeding Damn, that would not be good. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to face the Celtics second round if I'm the.

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Speaker 4: Next No, I mean exactly, I don't know.

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Speaker 12: By the way, Also, what a testament to modern medicine,

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Speaker 12: right to think about when Kobe injured his achilles right

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Speaker 12: ten years ago. Obviously he was older, but there was

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Speaker 12: no way treatment was this good. And now they've made

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Speaker 12: some significant changes in the way they treat an achilles injury.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look at this guy, it's incredible.

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Speaker 3: Looks pretty damn good.

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Speaker 12: The shot is a little off, which is one hundred

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Speaker 12: percent what you expect, and will one hundred percent be

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Speaker 12: fine by mid season four in the playoffs, but like

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Speaker 12: everything else.

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Speaker 3: Looks looks good. So regarding Nick Celtics, real quick, rough

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Speaker 3: night for Timothy shallow May last night man got snubbed

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Speaker 3: And if the Knicks don't make the finals, he's gonna

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Speaker 3: do not his year.

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Speaker 4: I think you blame him? Will you blame him?

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Speaker 12: If the next They're gonna be a curse of uh

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Speaker 12: i Ardashian curse?

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Speaker 4: Baby, you know how I feel. Don't bring the Kardashians

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Speaker 4: to your basketball game. It's not gonna go. Oh there

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Speaker 4: you go. All right, let's talk about your New York

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, here we go. There you go.

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Speaker 12: Finalizing a deal that will send in quarterback Justin Fields

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Speaker 12: to Kansas City, Chiefs are going to send back their

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Speaker 12: twenty twenty seven to sixth round pick. Chiefs, interestingly, are

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Speaker 12: only going to be on the hook for three million

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Speaker 12: of his ten million guaranteed contract. You, on the other hand,

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Speaker 12: your team is going to be on the hook for

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Speaker 12: seven million. But I this is super fascinating to me

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Speaker 12: because our producer Martin was talking about the comparisons with

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Speaker 12: Sam Donald. Do you feel like this could be kind

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Speaker 12: of a Sam Donald experience for Justin Field? Because I

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Speaker 12: love that take right.

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Speaker 4: Sit for a year.

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Speaker 12: Okay, the way Donald sat behind Purty, be in a

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Speaker 12: winning organization.

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Speaker 4: Just get to work on your.

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Speaker 12: Game because no one's gonna Is he going to be

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Speaker 12: the starter over Mahomes?

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Speaker 4: No, I mean as soon as Mahomes is healthy, he's

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Speaker 4: the starter.

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Speaker 12: And then you know, it could be another case, Jason

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Speaker 12: of your Jets.

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Speaker 4: Send a quarterback and then watching him.

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Speaker 3: With the Super Bowl and then they bashed the Jets

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Speaker 3: Sasion All right, So wait, so Fields was drafted by

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Speaker 3: was it shit? Was Chicago?

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Speaker 12: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And then he went Pittsburgh and then Jets. So by

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Speaker 3: far the worst culture he was in was with the Jets.

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Speaker 3: Right going to the chief.

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Speaker 4: You said it out loud.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's fine to say that. Woody Johnson cleaned

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Speaker 3: it up. I thought we could get more than a

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Speaker 3: sixth round pick. Goodness gracious. But yeah, listen, Fields had

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Speaker 3: a great opener last year against Pittsburgh. That game right there,

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Speaker 3: I think they lost thirty four to thirty two. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was like, oh and then it went downhill quickly.

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Speaker 3: Is he gonna start week one?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the question.

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Speaker 12: So Mahomes has said the whole time, he's like, I'm

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Speaker 12: going to start week one. I'm going to start week one.

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Speaker 12: I'm going to start week one. They play their early game.

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Speaker 12: It's not like they play on mininy of football. They

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Speaker 12: play I think Thursday rate.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so.

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Speaker 12: Even that's like, you know, pushes the calendar back. He

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Speaker 12: says he's going to start. I'm watching Jason Tatum doing

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Speaker 12: what he does. It's not the same injury, I know,

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Speaker 12: but still, you know, I don't know. But if he did,

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Speaker 12: Fields did have to start game one. I feel fine

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Speaker 12: about that because here's the thing. Fields is going to

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Speaker 12: get almost all the reps in training camp, right. I mean,

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Speaker 12: Mahomes will work his way back in there eventually, but

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Speaker 12: this is such an unusual case where he is going

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Speaker 12: to have starter reps with all of these players that,

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Speaker 12: you know, normally a backup quarterback just popping in wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: Have had chemistry with these guys. He's going to build

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Speaker 4: it over a month.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, more three million dollars for your backup quarter Yeah,

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Speaker 3: is not terrible, this Mahomes. So the Mahomes injury, I

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Speaker 3: haven't looked at the timetable lately. Do you think it's

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Speaker 3: realistic kill these backs?

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Speaker 4: I do?

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I can't guarantee it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it depends on how he responds and how he feels.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think it's crazy for him to keep

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Speaker 4: saying this. I get it.

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Speaker 3: You know, one of us is hoping the Chiefs and

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Speaker 3: it's the player.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say, well, look, you were right.

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Speaker 12: I made fun of you exactly in our pre season picks.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's what happened, and you were you were,

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Speaker 4: you were right. But I do think this will work out.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually pretty excited about this for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. Rachel Nichols with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: Heard Line News.

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Speaker 3: All right, we got Ken Rosenthal stopping by to talk

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Speaker 3: the World Baseball Classic actually more exciting than the World Series.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that next.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays

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Speaker 2: and Neon Eastern not a em Pacific Tonight.

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Speaker 12: After knocking off depending champion Japan, Ronald Acuna Junior and

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Speaker 12: Venezuela look to end Italy's Cinderella run in the semi

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Speaker 12: final of the World Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 4: Can they beat the Expresso team? That's my question. Coverage

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Speaker 4: begins at seven pm Eastern right here on fs Y.

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Speaker 13: Thankspresso team all right, World Baseball Classic, Let's bring in

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Speaker 13: Ken Rosenthal, one of the obviously the most plugged in

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Speaker 13: folks in baseball. Sideline reporter writer, extraordinary, Ken, Let's get

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Speaker 13: to start it. I mean, the vibes and energy are

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Speaker 13: just off the charts for the World Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 3: Just tell us what it's like, what you feel being there.

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Speaker 5: It's electric, There's no question about it.

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Speaker 6: And this tournament brings passion that we don't see in

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Speaker 6: the regular season or even in the postseason because players

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Speaker 6: are playing for their countries, and the Latin American players

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Speaker 6: in particular have incredible pride in what they're doing. And

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Speaker 6: we've seen it at times. We saw it last night

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Speaker 6: from the Americans as well. So it's a different kind

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Speaker 6: of vibe than we're used to seeing. And it is

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Speaker 6: absolutely the word is electric. That's the only word I

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Speaker 6: can use.

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Speaker 3: So Aaron Judge kind of went off and made a

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Speaker 3: World Series reference. Obviously, can it match the energy of

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Speaker 3: the World Series? Like, are you feeling that kind of excitement?

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Speaker 3: I mean, the crowd clearly is into it.

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Speaker 6: The crowd is one thing, and certainly in Miami when

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Speaker 6: you have a large Dominican population, a large Venezuelan population,

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Speaker 6: and a large Puerto Rican population. It adds to the

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Speaker 6: energy in the building. Compared to a World Series, it's

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Speaker 6: just a little bit different. It's a little bit more

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Speaker 6: intense perhaps, but my goodness, last year's Toronto La Series

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Speaker 6: was incredible. The fans were incredible in both cities. I

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Speaker 6: don't know that I would say this top stat It's

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Speaker 6: kind of different.

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Speaker 5: I think that's the best way to put it.

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Speaker 3: Different. Yeah, yeah, agreed. So Paul Skeen's was just tremendous

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Speaker 3: last night. Obviously he's becoming one of the great pitchers

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Speaker 3: in the sport. I guess just talk about what he

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Speaker 3: showed last night to you.

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Speaker 6: He showed that he could handle the lineup that we

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Speaker 6: all thought could not be stopped. The Dominican Republicans scored

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Speaker 6: fifty one runs in its first five games.

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Speaker 5: They hit a home run off Skiens last.

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Speaker 6: Night, Junior Camenero did and that made it fifteen for

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Speaker 6: the tournament. That's the most ever in a single WBC.

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Speaker 6: The tournament dates back twenty years. This was seeing the

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Speaker 6: Dominican republic offense as something of an unstoppable force and

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Speaker 6: Skean stopped them. So among his many achievements Rookie of

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Speaker 6: the Year, National League cy Young Award winner last year.

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Speaker 5: This to me stood at the top. He has yet

651
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 5: to pitch in the postseason. This was the closest thing

652
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 5: to it outside of.

653
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 6: The Mexico game he pitched earlier in the tournament, and he,

654
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 6: for the most part, was magnificent, even though he said

655
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 6: afterward on our broadcast that it wasn't his prettiest or cleanest.

656
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 5: That's true, but he still got it done.

657
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about the end of the game, the

658
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: final strike. Obviously, Dominican Republic not happy. What were they

659
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: saying after the game. I mean you could see the

660
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 3: just annoyance, maybe's the right word, frustration.

661
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 6: Tell me about it, both of those words and a

662
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 6: few more.

663
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 5: And certainly they had every right to be upset.

664
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 6: There was a call on Soto that should have been

665
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 6: ball for leading off the eighth, the call on Perdomo

666
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 6: of course in the ninth that was with a runner

667
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 6: on third and it became the final out of the game.

668
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 6: It would have been first and third to out of

669
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 6: four tatis. So that's a world of difference. And we

670
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 6: have coming into the sport this year in the regular

671
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 6: season an automatic ball strike system, and players and teams

672
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 6: will be allowed to challenge calls. And in these cases

673
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 6: you could clearly see from the stat cast imaging that

674
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 6: both these calls would have been overturned, and who knows

675
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 6: where the game goes from there. So yes, the Dominican

676
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 6: players were frustrated, but Albert their manager, and Geraldo Perdomo,

677
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 6: the guy who struck out to end the game, handled

678
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 6: it with a lot of class and they said, that's

679
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 6: not what the game was decided on.

680
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 5: We had a great tournament.

681
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 6: There were a lot of things that happened, and I thought,

682
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 6: frankly that their reaction was incredibly professional, maybe even more

683
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 6: professional than it.

684
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 5: Deserved to be, if you know what I mean.

685
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, it's interesting the whole challenge system you mentioned.

686
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: You know, the energy and the excitement of these games

687
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: has been thrilling. In basketball, I know people are annoyed

688
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: with all these constant challenges and stoppages at the end.

689
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: Who touched the ball last? It takes forever, takes the

690
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: excitement out. Do you think, you know, challenging some of

691
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: that stuff might do the same in baseball.

692
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 6: That's a great question, and the answer is yes, just

693
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 6: as instant replay has done that to an extent in baseball.

694
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 6: At the same time, I guess I would come back

695
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 6: to this, which would you prefer the game ending last

696
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 6: night on a call like the one that had ended

697
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 6: on or a correct call with a delay and a

698
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 6: little bit of.

699
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 5: Excitement zapped in that moment. I would hope that the.

700
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 6: Correct call when the day and that is what is

701
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 6: going to happen in the future. So it's a tough question,

702
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 6: and certainly the entertainment aspect is part of this. But

703
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 6: as with instant replay, when that was introduced, the idea

704
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 6: was to get the egregious calls right.

705
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 5: Now, some other things have happened, some unintended.

706
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 6: Consequences as a result of that, but they mostly get

707
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 6: the egregious calls right, and that is what is most important.

708
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: I can't believe we talked baseball for five minutes and

709
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: haven't mentioned show he Otani. I personally thought his home

710
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: run and telling his dugout to settle down was one

711
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: of the cooler things I've seen in the tour. Just

712
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: I guess talk to a little bit about what you

713
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 3: thought of Japan getting bounced Otani was tremendous.

714
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 6: Of Otani was tremendous, as he always is. He did

715
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 6: not pitch as he did in the last Classic, which

716
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 6: they won. I did not see the Japan team as

717
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 6: being quite as strong as that team in twenty three,

718
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 6: and certainly they played a team from Venezuela that is

719
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 6: very good, stocked with Major leaguers, and not just fringe

720
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 6: major leaguers, quality major leaguers, all stars in one case,

721
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 6: South Perez a potential Hall of Famer, in another case,

722
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 6: Ronald Kunya Junior, a likely Hall of Famer if he

723
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 6: continues to perform at the level he has in his career.

724
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 6: So I was not necessarily surprised to see them lose.

725
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 6: But it's always shocking to see Otani walk off a

726
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 6: baseball field, not in triumph.

727
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 5: It doesn't happen all that often.

728
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is interesting. I mean, did you, I'm assuming

729
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 3: you had to pick before the World Baseball Class you

730
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 3: thought Japan would be there?

731
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 6: Everybody did, right, Well, my picks are always terrible, so

732
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 6: they're not even worth discussing. But the three best teams

733
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 6: were considered to be the Dominican Republic, the US, and Japan.

734
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 5: Those were the three.

735
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 6: Only one of them is going to be in the final,

736
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 6: and that's the US, and it will be against Venezuela

737
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 6: or Italy.

738
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 5: And by saying those were the three best.

739
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 6: Teams going in in the estimation of many, that probably

740
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 6: sold Venezuela shore. Now Italy came out of nowhere. That's

741
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 6: a whole different story. But Venezuela, as we will see tonight,

742
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 6: I am sure, it's an impressive group of players and

743
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 6: that's why they're where they are.

744
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting on the screen'ms you could see you

745
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 3: a question about Otani being the biggest baseball star ever.

746
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: But there is a global This is a global event,

747
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 3: and it's weird because we don't have this in football.

748
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: We have it in basketball. Basketball has become international. This

749
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: feels like it's expanding baseball's reach globally to like kind

750
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: of blow up. And I don't know, I guess just

751
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: talk a little bit about Otani and helping the sport

752
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: glow globally.

753
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 6: Globally, that is the entire goal of the tournament, to

754
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 6: expand baseball's international reach. Now, I don't know that it

755
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 6: needed much help in Japan, yes, where it already is

756
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 6: the most popular sport, but certainly Otani has elevated that

757
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 6: even to another level. Then you have European countries like Italy,

758
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 6: and that to me is where maybe the greatest mark

759
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 6: will be felt. I don't know if Italy's run here

760
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 6: will have a dramatic impact on the growth of baseball

761
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 6: in that country.

762
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 5: It's hard to know. Soccer obviously is king.

763
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 6: But at the same time, John Morossi of M Network

764
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 6: pointed out that it was on the front page of

765
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 6: the leading Italian sports section yesterday when they made it

766
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 6: to the semi finals.

767
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 5: That's a big deal. That's something. And maybe if there

768
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 5: are I don't.

769
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 6: Know twenty five fifty one hundred kids in Italy who

770
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 6: decide to play baseball because of this, and that happens

771
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 6: in Great Britain and other countries, and you get some

772
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 6: of those athletes, that only helps the sport.

773
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting, all right, So Italy Venezuela tonight. I guess

774
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: a quick breakdown, it's on FS one breakdown of the game.

775
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 3: Who do you like in this one? And then to

776
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: piggyback off that, who's a better matchup for the US?

777
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 6: I like Venezuela, But I've said that every time Italy

778
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 6: has played in this tournament just about and they keep winning.

779
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 6: And not only do they keep winning, they keep scoring

780
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 6: in a big way, three straight games with eight or

781
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 6: more runs.

782
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 5: So it's hard to go against them right now, as

783
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 5: hot as they are.

784
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 6: They're going to start Aaron Nola, the great Philadelphia Itaies pitcher,

785
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 6: who has had a great career and fished really well

786
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 6: in the Classics so far.

787
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 5: So again it's hard to go against them.

788
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 6: But I just believe Venezuela is the stronger team and

789
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 6: ultimately they will win. Said that when Italy played the US,

790
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 6: Italy won. I said that when Italy played Mexico, Italy won.

791
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 6: So let's not count out Italy now. As for the

792
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 6: stronger matchup for the US, it seems to me that

793
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 6: because they lost to Italy, getting them again and having

794
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 6: that particular motivation to kind of bring this thing full

795
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 6: circle for them, that would be good. And again I

796
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 6: see Venezuela as the stronger team, so Italy probably is

797
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 6: the better matchup.

798
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because Italy, you know, the whole Espresso

799
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 3: jokes are flying, but they were an underdog. This is

800
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 3: like not quite a sixteen seed in March Madness. Or something.

801
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: But this is a serious underdog making a monster run here.

802
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: Do you do we know how they're doing it or

803
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 3: are they just getting hot at the right time.

804
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 6: It is pretty close to a sixteen seed actually making

805
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 6: this kind of run, and they're doing it in a

806
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 6: couple of different ways. But the main thing that has

807
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 6: stood out to me, besides Vinnie Pascalentino, who is one

808
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 6: of the games better sluggers, and Jack Caglio who is

809
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 6: an emerging slugger, they have four or five young position

810
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 6: players who are fast, who play really hard, who just

811
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 6: have kind of a good way about them, and those

812
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 6: guys have brought Italy energy. They've made Italy much more

813
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 6: of a force than any of us thought they could be.

814
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 6: And they've also gotten good pitching from Nola and Michael

815
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 6: Lorenzen and Sam al the Gieri. So it's been a

816
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 6: nice combination and it's been great to see them play

817
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 6: this game at such a high level when it was unexpected.

818
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 5: But it's not a fluke either. The guys that they have.

819
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 5: There's young guys.

820
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 6: They're not considered top one hundred prospects in the sport,

821
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 6: but they're top ten prospects in their own organizations, and

822
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 6: they've proven to be really good players.

823
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 3: Do you think this is the kind of stage that

824
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 3: could elevate some of these prospects to be like, hey,

825
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: we got to give this guy a look. Fans now

826
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 3: want to see him because he popped in the World

827
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: Baseball Classic.

828
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 6: Yes, And I don't know that it's for the fans,

829
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 6: but what it has done for these players is kind

830
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 6: of open the eyes of their organizations, maybe in a

831
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 6: greater way than before. Maybe they'll be looked at a

832
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 6: little bit differently to play like this on this stage.

833
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 6: And I know I talked to the Chicago White Sox

834
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 6: about Sam Antinaci.

835
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 5: He's one of those young guys. Yeah, and they said,

836
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 5: oh no, no, no, we have him highly ranked.

837
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 6: It's everybody else who does it well, right, of course,

838
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 6: But certainly it's changed the perceptions of I don't know

839
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 6: the organizations themselves, but maybe in the industry.

840
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

841
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 3: And finally, do you have an MVP lean so far

842
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: for the tournament? I mean, assuming the USK it, you know,

843
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 3: wins it all tomorrow.

844
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 5: I don't believe that has been decided yet.

845
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 6: And what I mean by that is what happens on

846
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 6: the field the next two nights is probably going to

847
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 6: go a long way toward determining who is the MVP.

848
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair, right. Ken Rosenthal, obviously great insider reporter,

849
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: writes for The Athletic. He's written three sports books. Ken,

850
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: congrats on your success. Enjoy the games. Thanks a lot,

851
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: World Baseball Classic, Rachel, It's I have been riveted.

852
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 12: It's pretty yeah, yeah, I mean, and just the talent.

853
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 12: I mean, you guys we were talking about this morning.

854
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 12: It's crazy. Did you see the list? So there's of

855
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 12: the two teams, just in last night's game, fifty six

856
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 12: all Star appearances between the two teams.

857
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 4: I have some of the other numbers here.

858
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 12: You've got a thirty one Silver Sluggers, nine goal gloves,

859
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 12: five MVPs, and one say young winner just in that game.

860
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 12: So if the players are telling us this is a

861
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 12: big deal and they're so competitive, it's a big deal.

862
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: I think the timing of the sport, the event is perfect.

863
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: It's in that window after the Super Bowl, before March

864
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 3: madness starts where there NBA games don't really matter as much,

865
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 3: right and spring training people don't pay as close attention

866
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 3: to So this is like getting all the attempt I

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Speaker 3: mean it's really been perfect by.

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Speaker 12: Coming off a seven game World Series. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 12: I hate to say it, but it's true. A big

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Speaker 12: market wins, right, I'm a doctor fan, but whatever, But

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Speaker 12: you know what I mean, like the interest in the sport,

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Speaker 12: and this is takeing. You know, it's here and then

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Speaker 12: spring training usually puts it here and instead we're just

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Speaker 12: keeping up here.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's great for baseball siting stuff.

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Speaker 3: Italy Venezuela tonight, all right, coming off next final four picks.

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Speaker 3: We got the brackets well like fifteen hours ago. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: three are locks, one kind of up in the air.