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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and well Matt. Start of hour number two. That means

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Speaker 2: it must be mock draft time. Lock it up today.

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Speaker 2: I'm mixing things up a little bit. Good. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: use the NFL Mock Draft Database.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know there was a thing.

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Speaker 2: There is such a thing here. Uh so we're using

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Speaker 2: its NFL Mock Draft Database dot com.

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Speaker 3: And uh do they just do you know if they

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Speaker 3: get their ranks just like from a conference.

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Speaker 2: I think it's kind of a Yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 2: kind of a conglomeration.

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Speaker 3: Good, so maybe some different guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. So we're up at twenty. We have

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Speaker 2: six trade offers. We have six trade offers because Brock

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Speaker 2: Bauers is still available. Wow, Jared Versus still Brian Thomas

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Speaker 2: still available. These are some of the guys that are

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Speaker 2: still available. So, uh, Cincinnati is on the phone. They're

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Speaker 2: offering their two, three, and four. We're gonna reject that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Green Bay is on the phone. How about trade offer yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're offering twenty five. I like that neighborhood fifty eight

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Speaker 2: eighty eight, so their first, second, and third rounds, their

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Speaker 2: fifth round pick, a twenty twenty five fourth round pick,

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Speaker 2: and a twenty twenty five to seventh round pick.

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Speaker 3: That's a yes.

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Speaker 2: They come up to twenty, that's a yes. We get

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Speaker 2: five other offers. Yeah, yeah, let's let's see what else

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Speaker 2: is on the table here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's almost too many picks for us to

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Speaker 3: get on the roster, but yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: We can move some other ones. Okay, the Dolphins are

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Speaker 2: on the phone. They're offering their fifth round pick, a

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Speaker 2: second round pick next year, a fourth round pick. I'm

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Speaker 2: rejecting that one. That one's that one stinks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's horrible.

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Speaker 2: We got Philadelphia on the phone.

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Speaker 3: That's just two spots, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia is offering twenty two fifty three, two fifth round

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Speaker 2: picks there, one seventy one and one seventy two, and

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Speaker 2: two seventh round picks next year.

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Speaker 3: That's easy for me. Yeah, I mean I'd take that,

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Speaker 3: boy as it fifty eight or whatever, just to move

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Speaker 3: down to twenty.

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Speaker 2: Two fifty three, one seventy one, one seventy two, and

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Speaker 2: then two seventh rounders next year.

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Speaker 3: Just fifty three would get it done for me.

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Speaker 2: Uh. The commanders are on the phone. They're offering bose seconds,

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Speaker 2: remember they come. No, they're not offering that. They're offering

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Speaker 2: thirty six, one hundred and one thirty nine next year

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Speaker 2: second round pick. That's nice pick and a twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five seventh round pick from.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles for that early stuff.

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Speaker 2: Though I do too, I'm going to reject that one.

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Speaker 2: The Patriots are on the phone, No, they pick early.

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Speaker 2: They're offering pick thirty four, pick sixty eight, pick one

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Speaker 2: oh three, pick one thirty seven, pick one ninety three,

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Speaker 2: and a seventh round pick from the Eagles next year

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Speaker 2: for twenty it's fair.

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Speaker 3: It's just don't I don't think we need to make

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Speaker 3: twelve picks.

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Speaker 2: I think I think we want to make one of

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Speaker 2: the trades with one of the teams who was offering

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Speaker 2: us a first round.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, green Bay or Philly seems mose.

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Speaker 2: So green Bay is offering a first, second, third, and

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Speaker 2: a fifth, and two picks next year, fourth and a seventh.

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Speaker 2: That's going back to twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I'm into that.

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Speaker 2: Philly is offering twenty two fifty three and two fifth

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Speaker 2: round picks, and then two sevenths next year.

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Speaker 3: I'm cool with both. I mean, the packer offers better obviously,

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Speaker 3: but you going back a little You're going back a

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Speaker 3: little bit further. Do we know what the tackle situation

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Speaker 3: looks like?

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Speaker 2: Well, let me see here.

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Speaker 3: How easy is to see these things?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the guys that are available. Oh, boy,

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Speaker 2: Brock Bowers.

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Speaker 3: As I mentioned, Okay, I can see why people want that.

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Speaker 2: Jared Verse, Brian Thomas, Interesting Byron Murphy, Troy, Fatanu, Jackson, Powers, Johnson,

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Speaker 2: kool Aid, McKinstry, Graham, Barton, Jerson, Newton, Donnie Mitchell, Tyler, Geiton,

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Speaker 2: Bowneck's still available, Michael Pennock's still available, Darius Robinson's still there.

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Speaker 2: So that the tackles are a little Kanu's there, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Fatan Who's there? Sue Mattaia is there as well, a

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Speaker 3: The fact that Fatan Who's there and there isn't much else,

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Speaker 3: Like you need to say, mems are guiding, I don't think. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think MEMS makes you want to go to twenty

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Speaker 3: two more than I want to go to twenty.

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Speaker 2: Five, Cincinnati took for Shanhu, Fluaga went to Seattle. Mims

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Speaker 2: went to New Orleans at fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'd probably just take Fatanu here, but we could

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Speaker 3: be finding go to twenty two.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of stuff that we can get and.

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Speaker 3: We'll figure it out from there. I mean, I could

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Speaker 3: live with Powers Johnson or you know, yeah, Ryan Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Do we just want to go down to twenty two?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to go to twenty five. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we might even get offers a twenty two.

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Speaker 2: We could be very active later here with those two

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It's just hard to trade up on these things. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: this one might be a little easy. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I haven't Yeah, I'm gonna accept it. And they took

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Speaker 2: We got a bunch more trade offers again. They ended

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Speaker 2: up taking Rock Bowers Philadelphia. Uh, Miami took Jordan Morgan.

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Speaker 2: I think we take I can take Fatana, yeah, yeah, yep,

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Speaker 2: draft him. We got two other trade offers, but I

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Speaker 2: think we just take the burd in hand.

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Speaker 3: We flirted with fire there a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Now that we want to trade up here. Powers Johnson

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Speaker 2: just went, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 3: Pause, Who's who's of interest.

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Speaker 2: Some of the guys that just went here, uh starting

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Speaker 2: round two day, if you're worthy, Sue Mattia, they just

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Speaker 2: went Yeah, Max Melton, marshawn neland Enis Rakestraw and Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Is bart available?

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Speaker 2: Uh? No, Barton has gone. Barton went in the first round.

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Speaker 2: But Zach Fraser still sitting out there. We're pick thirty

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Speaker 2: nine here now the guy's still available. You still have

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Speaker 2: jerse On Newton, Donnie Mitchell, bo Nicks, Michael Pennix, Lad

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Speaker 2: McConkie Keyon Coleman, Troy Franklin, Zack Fraser, Edrian Cooper, Peyton Wilson.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how this is, but I would I

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Speaker 3: would probably let five more picks go before I started.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I can do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just because there's a lot of good names there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Okay, if they're gonna give us Johnny Newton

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Speaker 3: in the second round, i'd take it, you know what

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Speaker 2: He just went to Atlanta, which would make some sense.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, he is still available here, the guy is

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Speaker 2: still available, or pick forty four, Bo Knicks, Michael Pennix,

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Speaker 2: Lad mconkie, Keyon, Coleman, Troy Franklin, Zach Fraser, Drian Cooper.

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Speaker 3: Would you take McConkey or Fraser? Though? That's so, that's maybe.

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Speaker 2: The question more picks. We have picks fifty one and

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Speaker 2: fifty three, and where we're at now, we're at forty four.

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Speaker 3: Right now, you're going to let two more picks?

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Speaker 2: Can we can? We can we try to move maybe

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Speaker 2: one of those second or what we get the three

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Speaker 2: fifth round picks? Now we're not going to use three

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Speaker 2: fifth round.

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Speaker 3: Picks, Offer a fifth and our next pick and try

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Speaker 3: to get for asier.

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Speaker 2: I think that's with the Raiders here.

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 2: Now the Raiders aren't going to be They're not gonna

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Speaker 2: take They're not going to take a center. Then you

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Speaker 2: have the Saints probably not okay. Then you have Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: probably not, probably not. Then you have the Giants.

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Speaker 3: Probably not did last year. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Then you have Jacksonville. Jacksonville could. So this is the

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Speaker 2: area where we want to start talking to these teams.

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Speaker 3: You let like three picks go off, Well why why let.

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Speaker 2: Three picks go off? When we then we have to

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Speaker 2: deal with the Giants as opposed that we can make

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Speaker 2: an offer to all four of those teams.

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Speaker 3: My point is if if we were to own this

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Speaker 3: pick right now, I might take Maconkie, Okay, I mean,

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Speaker 3: if you're gonna trade up to that, trade up for

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Speaker 3: the guy you want most, Okay, I'm gonna let go.

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Speaker 3: If we lose Fraser, then maybe we I mean, trading

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Speaker 3: up to me is appealing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Bb went, Malachai Corley went, we're pick forty eight,

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Speaker 2: forty six. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: The cults are up and then it's a weird way

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Speaker 3: to describing it. But if we're on the clock right now,

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Speaker 3: I probably would take Mconkee over Fraser. But if you're

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Speaker 3: trading up.

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Speaker 2: We might be able to get them both. If we

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Speaker 2: might still get them.

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Speaker 3: Both, I mean, I know we'll get receivers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that we like. I'm gonna let Indianapolis pick op Well,

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Speaker 2: I just let them.

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Speaker 3: All pick, all right, that's all right.

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Speaker 2: We have a trade offer here from Kansas City. They

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Speaker 2: want to give us ninety five one to seventy three

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Speaker 2: and next year's second round pick for fifty one.

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Speaker 3: We have too many picks.

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Speaker 2: I am not interested because guess who's all. Here's what's

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Speaker 2: on the We sat still where we're a patient lab

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Speaker 2: Mconkee nice keyon Coleman Troy Franklin, Zach Fraser. We're going

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Speaker 2: to get two of those guys.

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Speaker 3: I think you take Fraser.

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Speaker 2: We take Fraser now, Yeah, and then we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: one of those three receivers. And I would take any

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Speaker 2: any of the three.

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Speaker 3: Coleman would be my last pick, but that I would

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Speaker 3: the fact that you got Fraser. This is a syre relief.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got Fraser, all right. The Giants want to

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Speaker 2: make a trade.

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Speaker 3: Later than we oh, absolutely, Uh.

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Speaker 2: The Texans want to give us fifty nine and twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five round five pick. We're going to reject that.

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Speaker 2: That's not enough. The Cardinals want to give us sixty six, one,

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Speaker 2: O four and eighty six for fifty three. We're going

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Speaker 2: to reject that. And the Packers want to give us

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Speaker 2: fifty eight, ninety one, one, six, two, two, seventy five

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Speaker 2: and next year's fifth for pick fifty third. They're offering

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Speaker 2: us to Ricky Williams trade. We're pick fifty.

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Speaker 3: Three in the first round.

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Speaker 2: Two. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna stick him pick right,

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Speaker 2: We got to stick and pick all right. So it's

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Speaker 2: Keon Coleman or Troy Franklin.

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Speaker 3: I prefer Franklin, but I can make a case for

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Speaker 3: both Coleman's.

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Speaker 2: I think in for this offense, for this team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be Coleman more of the block or

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Speaker 3: more the size, the bigger body guy. You know, I

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Speaker 3: think Franklin's a better prospect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you. Yeah, let me just see what

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Speaker 2: other wide receivers, if there's anybody else still out there.

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Speaker 2: Xavier Legette is also still.

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Speaker 3: Over both of them, not by leaps and bounds, but

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Speaker 3: I would take He's kind of splitting the difference. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and he's got more big playability than Coleman, but he's

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Speaker 2: Right, leg get it is. I don't have a problem

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Speaker 3: Frasier Lagett for moving back start all offense.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. Now we're looking defense, yea, our offensive needs

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Speaker 2: are now filled, right, we don't need anything else.

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Speaker 3: I'd consider a D Lineman. I'd certainly can think about

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Speaker 3: corners all right.

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Speaker 2: The Packers are back on the Founders. Packers are like

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Speaker 2: they want to move and shake it. They're offering eighty eight, one, six, two,

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Speaker 2: two and two nineteen for a pick eighty four. What

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Speaker 2: was the first one eighty eight to move down four spots.

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Speaker 3: I'd almost rather say keep those last three picks and

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Speaker 3: give us next year's third.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. The Cowboys want to give us

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Speaker 2: eighty seven and two sixteen. That's more realistic.

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Speaker 3: That's more realistic.

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Speaker 2: I'm not interested in.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't do much for us.

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Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. So let's take a look here at

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Speaker 2: the defensive lineman still available. It's got picked over pretty good. Uh.

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Speaker 2: You got Tyler Davis from Clemson, McKinley Jackson from Texas

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Speaker 2: A and m Makay Wingo, Christian Boyd, Jordan Jefferson. I

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Speaker 2: think you have to almost wait on that cornerback. I

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Speaker 2: bet there's dudes, Kyrie Jackson, Andrew Phillips. I think Phillips,

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Speaker 2: The Andrew Phillips would work there. Chris Abrams, drain, it's

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Speaker 2: not bad, cam Hart, Jarvis Brownlee, Kaylen Carson, Ronardo Greed,

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Speaker 2: Kaylen King, Josh Newton, This BC guy there, I don't

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Speaker 3: Thuns On like it. I would take Phillips.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Andrew Phillips is the pick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an easy one. So what do we have left?

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Speaker 2: We can still double down on the cornerback.

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Speaker 3: He has kicks left an outside corner to me is

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Speaker 3: not off the table.

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Speaker 2: No, No, like Phillips could do it, because I don't

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Speaker 3: But I mean, I know people are like, well, you

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Speaker 3: got Trice and you got Rush, and you traded for

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Speaker 3: one and you got Porter, Like that's great. I know,

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Speaker 3: know Trice and Rush or NFL players, right, we don't

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Speaker 3: know anything about psyched about those. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: if if Hart is on the board here, Kyrie Jackson,

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Speaker 3: like I would have a hard time passing on them.

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Speaker 2: We are up again. This is it picked ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: The top player available Cedric Van Pran, Kaylen Bullock, Jermaine Burton,

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Trotter, Kyrie Jackson.

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Speaker 3: It's appealing.

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Speaker 2: Brendan Rice, Cold Bishop, Cold Bishop. He's just a good

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Speaker 2: play would make a lot of sense here too, Like

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Speaker 2: we're gonna play some three safety stuff.

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Speaker 3: He's an immense town. But he doesn't have to play

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Speaker 3: right to second either. He could quickly go past KZ.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, easily, maybe even cut KZ.

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Speaker 2: That might even have Yeah, the Cold Bishop is good.

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Speaker 2: You might just say, yeah, yeah, we like to have

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Speaker 2: the three bigger bodied safeties out there.

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Speaker 3: That col Bishop's like the perfect guy to me to

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Speaker 3: get the bonus prize when you trade down. Yeah, we

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Speaker 3: don't really need him, but he's there, and he's immenseally talented.

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Speaker 3: In two years from now.

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Speaker 2: Very least, he's going to be a stud for us

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Speaker 3: TEMs a minimum. Yeahh I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 2: Let's take him. Really helped our secondary.

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Speaker 3: He might be my third safety when I redo him.

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Speaker 2: I think he was right around there for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was fifth when I did the first time round.

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Speaker 3: But that's too low.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're coming up here now, we're back up at

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Speaker 2: one nineteen. We got the Raiders on the phone, are

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Speaker 2: offering one forty eight and a fifth round or next year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Ravens are offering a whole bunch of late round

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Speaker 2: picks and some picks next year. We don't trade with

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Speaker 2: the Wavens. Young. The forty nine ers offering one twenty

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Speaker 2: four two point fifteen, a fourth round pick next year,

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Speaker 2: a six round pick next year.

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Speaker 3: I know they're good, but two future picks next year

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Speaker 3: is pretty appealing. Yeah, one being a fourth what pickers there?

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Speaker 2: That's just to move back five spots.

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Speaker 3: Do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't mind that the Vikings are offering Next year

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Speaker 2: is fourth, fifth, and actually next year fourth and two

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Speaker 2: fifths to move into this spot. They're not giving us

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Speaker 2: anything though this year year. Uh, you got Denver wants

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Speaker 2: to give us one twenty one, one, two oh three

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Speaker 2: and their fourth and fifth round picks next year.

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Speaker 3: I think you do that.

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Speaker 2: That's to move back two spots.

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Speaker 3: That's a yes.

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Speaker 2: I just want to take that one now. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 2: we're get it. We're gonna have way too many picks.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna know we might be trading picks for future picks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be great. Here's five sevens for fifth next year.

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Speaker 2: Right, Uh, there's six more trade offers. I'm not even

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Speaker 2: gonna ball that.

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Speaker 3: We can't do it. Yeah, all right, we might have

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Speaker 3: to try to trade up again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the players, this is where we got to take

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Speaker 2: a We got to take a defensive lineman here. So

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Speaker 2: you got McKinley. So bad Christian boyd Okay, it's kind

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Speaker 2: of a heavier guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Jefferson Logan Lee Logan Lee tested.

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Speaker 3: Really he did. He's sort of appealing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Keith Randolph from Illinois. Another guy who fits the

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Speaker 2: bill as a six y five three hundred pounder. Gabe

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Speaker 2: Hall another six five.

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Speaker 3: None of those guys have to play right away, but

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Speaker 3: you can bring them along.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have any of those that you like more

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Speaker 2: than the others. I mean, Jordan Jefferson kind of even

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Speaker 2: fits into that bill.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he'd be my pick of the group. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the couple that are okay, I mean we're talking about

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Speaker 3: mid round picks here there. Yeah, just be in the mix.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jefferson, Yeah, ste Jefferson, tackle by Jefferson exactly, maaming

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Speaker 2: by Jefferson. All Right, We've got like six picks left here.

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Speaker 2: We got to move some of these. We're just gonna

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Speaker 2: pause for now.

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Speaker 3: Is like Kyrie Jackson still available? There were some corners

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Speaker 3: that were interesting that was package picks up for.

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Speaker 2: So Ernardo Green, Is there be another Nickel, Marshawn Lloyd Rodrikstime,

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Speaker 2: Gabe Murphy, Theo Johnson, Ray Davis, will Shipley, Johnny Wilson,

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Speaker 2: Mason McCormick, Mohammed Kamara? Is there Will we trade up

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Speaker 2: for Mohammad Kamara?

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Speaker 3: Not in the real world, but if we have a

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Speaker 3: million picks, I would love to add them. To the mix.

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Speaker 3: Right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna see who's on the board right now, who's

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Speaker 2: on the clock. Let's see if we can get up

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Speaker 2: Denver's on the clock.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's made a deal with them, didn't we Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we just did give them a bunch of late stuff.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's see if Denver will make a trade with us.

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Speaker 2: Four come up and get this. But they got one

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Speaker 2: thirty six, two oh seven, and next year's a twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five six round draft pick. We're going to offer them.

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Speaker 2: Let's offer them one forty five. How about one seventy

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Speaker 2: eight two oh three we got We don't need that.

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Speaker 3: We got a lot of stuff to get rid of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one for eight and two oh three to

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Speaker 2: move back nine spots for them.

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Speaker 3: That's a further shot. Yeah. I think they gave us

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Speaker 3: more than that to move up to or whatever.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. They're saying, that's not that's saying that. They're saying,

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Speaker 2: that's too much. That's what I want to give up.

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Speaker 2: That's why is that too much? Uh? One forty five,

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Speaker 2: one ninety five and two oh three Does that do it?

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Speaker 2: We're saying still saying we're giving up too much? About

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Speaker 2: one and one seventy eight. That's too much.

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Speaker 3: Give them more junk. This is a lot of wheeling

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Speaker 3: a deal on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is more difficult than what it should be.

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Speaker 2: Hm hmm.

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Speaker 3: Let's definitely lose picks in the process.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying. Yeah, there we go. So I can give

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Speaker 2: up one forty five, one seventy eight, one ninety five,

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Speaker 2: and two oh three for one thirty six one forty seven, okay,

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Speaker 2: and a twenty twenty five six round draft pick.

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Speaker 3: Good. I want to pick up twenty five picks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, trade is Trade is done.

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Speaker 3: Cool. You're gonna go get Kamara?

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Speaker 2: Yes, the nomination Mohammed Kamara. Those are both of our sleepers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, outside we didn't we didn't talk about it,

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Speaker 2: but before we both came up with that as our sleeper.

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Speaker 2: Uh okay, phil Or The Falcons want to give us

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Speaker 2: next year's fourth and next year's fifth for pick one

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Speaker 2: forty seven.

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Speaker 3: I'd say yes to that.

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Speaker 2: We have five trade offers. Le's see if there's anybody

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Speaker 2: else that. Oh, well, here you go. The Rams want

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Speaker 2: to giveus three picks this year. We're not interested in

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Speaker 2: picks this year, so to the Vikings. So the Lions,

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Speaker 2: so to the Patriots. Yeah, the Falcons. We'll take that

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Speaker 2: off for FO Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fourth and a.

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Speaker 2: Fifth from Atlanta. Okay, we've picked up now a fourth

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Speaker 2: and fifth and a sixth next year.

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Speaker 3: We have a ton of force and lowers for next year.

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Speaker 2: We still have picks one seventy one and one seventy two.

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Speaker 2: Right now, what we've got we're back up here. Uh

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Speaker 2: the we got one trade offer here from Seattle. They

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Speaker 2: want one s. So we've got Troy Fatanu tackle position,

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Speaker 2: Frasier center, Lagett wide receiver, Andrew Phillips at cornerback, Cole

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Speaker 2: Bishop at safety, Jordan Jefferson on the defensive line, Mohammed

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Speaker 2: Kamara at edge. We could we get back to back picture.

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Speaker 2: I think we look at the cornerbacks again and you

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Speaker 2: look at another wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's definitely the move.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so wide receiver. Oh so Jamari Thrash, Luke McCaffrey.

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Speaker 2: Both would be fine with both would both would work?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, is there any other names or in the competition.

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Speaker 2: For uh, Anthony Gold is still there? I like both

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Speaker 2: of the Thrash and Thrash and McCaffrey here.

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Speaker 3: I think they're both both for the appealing Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean they I might rather have those than Austin and

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Speaker 3: Van Jefferson and those guys. I don't care which one

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Speaker 3: you both are fine with me.

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Speaker 2: Let's take McCaffrey just to be we like it. We

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Speaker 2: like legacy, like the legacy guys. Yeah, okay, well, now

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Speaker 2: we're back up again here, and Jacksonville is offering for

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Speaker 2: one seventy two their fifth or fourth round pick next

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Speaker 2: year and a sixth round pick next year. Jeez, the

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Speaker 2: Saints are offering a four and a five next year.

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Speaker 3: It's getting a little bonkers. But I'll there were four

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Speaker 3: and five from New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: The Rams are offering a four and a six.

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Speaker 3: I'd consider the New Orleans man. But let's see, what.

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Speaker 2: If there's a cornerback corner of Yeah? All right, so

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Speaker 2: Kaylan King, is there, Charles Smith, Wade, Jayalen Simpson, MJ. Devonshire,

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Speaker 2: Johnny Dixon?

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Speaker 3: We have a slot?

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Speaker 2: Though, we have a slot? Are we sure? We need

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Speaker 2: maybe more than one slot? Now? We cold Bishop could

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Speaker 3: We also have safeties that can do it. Now.

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Speaker 2: Is there a quarterback out there that we might like?

439
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Speaker 2: Maybe Michael Pratt is still available, that Jordan Travis is available,

440
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,360
Speaker 2: Carter Bradley still available.

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Speaker 3: The first two appeal to me.

442
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Jordan Travis would make some sense here,

443
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,360
Speaker 2: just because he's not gonna he's not gonna take any

444
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,360
Speaker 2: snaps in training camp this year. He's completely on.

445
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Speaker 3: Scar on future picks. Let's say Travis.

446
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Speaker 2: Okay, Jordan Travis, it is all right. So we came

447
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 2: out of this draft with Troy Fatanu, Zach Frasier, Xavier Lagette,

448
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 2: Andrew Phillips, Cole Bishop, Jordan Jefferson, Mohammed Kamara, Luke McCaffrey,

449
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Speaker 2: and Jordan Travis and a bunch of fruit future picks

450
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Speaker 2: next year. Want to say a ton right, we'll get

451
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Speaker 2: down to this here as we get.

452
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Speaker 3: An offense real heavy to start it off when we was.

453
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 2: Needed strong on defense the rest of the day.

454
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Speaker 3: Picked up a couple offensive pieces late.

455
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Speaker 2: Which makes this draft makes a lot of sense because

456
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Speaker 2: that's where the value lines up at.

457
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Speaker 3: Right, You've got a right tackle and center right off

458
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Speaker 3: the bat, and a receiver that could play a lot.

459
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know we got a we get a slot,

460
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Speaker 2: We got an outside receiver.

461
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Speaker 3: McCaffrey's a lot different than the gain.

462
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we got the list of picture that we got.

463
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Speaker 2: They don't. I know, we got a bunch of a lot.

464
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Speaker 3: They were all fourth, fifth, six, and we already had

465
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Speaker 3: a bunch. Yeah, I'm cool with that. I mean, turn

466
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Speaker 3: one of those into well, I guess we drafted the center,

467
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 3: but that Drew Dolmand conversation. You know, Fraser would have

468
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Speaker 3: been a receiver instead.

469
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Speaker 2: Don't even need to do it. No, it's right, all right, Or.

470
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Speaker 3: I still would if you left this draft with even

471
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Speaker 3: more Day three picks, I'd be looking for bargains around

472
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Speaker 3: the league on guys on one.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, them in training camp. We'll give you a fifty.

474
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Speaker 2: You're gonna cut this guy. That's fine, we'll take him.

475
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Speaker 3: I hold them's not quite ready. Let's go get a

476
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Speaker 3: linebacker that can play for a year, that's better onund

477
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Speaker 3: the block. Yeahs good, here's a six round pick. You

478
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Speaker 3: know that kind of stuff makes sense? Yeah?

479
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I like that draft.

480
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Speaker 3: Got draft that was fine. It's a little insane with

481
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Speaker 3: kind of wish we knew what future picks we ended

482
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Speaker 3: up with, but I know it was lot.

483
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a lot for sure.

484
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Speaker 3: Because I know we got like Denver's fourth and fifth,

485
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 3: and or is Atlanta's fourth and fifth or you know?

486
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let me thank you. Let me see here

487
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 2: is this all trades? Uh? We also have So here's

488
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Speaker 2: what we got. We got two fourth round picks, futures,

489
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Speaker 2: futures we got oh this so we got a fourth

490
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Speaker 2: rounder from Denver.

491
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Speaker 3: Nice, they stink.

492
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Speaker 2: We got a fifth and three sixth from Denver. They

493
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Speaker 2: have three six Yeah, we.

494
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Speaker 3: Got rooting against Denver this.

495
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Speaker 2: Year, a fifth round pick from Atlanta.

496
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Speaker 3: It's great. You already had a bunch, right.

497
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Speaker 2: What's not to like there?

498
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Speaker 3: What's not to like? I'm cool with it.

499
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, that's that's a good one.

500
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Speaker 3: I'll like. Yeah, and I would be looking to move

501
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Speaker 3: those in future deals. Yeah, and we'll throw in the

502
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Speaker 3: six next.

503
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Speaker 2: Year somebody in the week five, somebody gets hurt, Well,

504
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Speaker 2: we can give you a fifth round, you know, Atlanta's

505
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 2: fifth round pick next year for so and.

506
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Speaker 3: So, or some kind of deal where it's give you two,

507
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Speaker 3: six and twenty five for your third and twenty five,

508
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: fifth and six or something like that. Just try to

509
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Speaker 3: consolidate them and keep moving up over the course between

510
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Speaker 3: now and the twenty twenty five draft.

511
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Speaker 2: Because you're not in the comp game anymore. No, but

512
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: this puts you back kind of back in the comp game.

513
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of extra stuff. Yeah.

514
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, in a draft that next year might be really good.

515
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you assuming it's gonna be decent. All right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's get to a break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and Matt on the NFL dot Com Jeff Chadeah did

524
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Speaker 2: a little thing, you're I'm assuming you're gonna do this

525
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Speaker 2: for the AFC also, but they haven't done it yet,

526
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Speaker 2: resetting the roster reset. Uh? What has changed in the

527
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Speaker 2: conference hierarchy?

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Speaker 3: OK?

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Speaker 2: For both sides of the bills are a lot different. Yeah,

530
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Speaker 2: he's got he's got the NFC here. I wanted to

531
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Speaker 2: do the AFC though. We'll read through.

532
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Speaker 3: The bust of the NFC and then we'll do our

533
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Speaker 3: a FC hierarchy. Yeah, AFC is more interesting, not just

534
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Speaker 3: because Steelers are in it, but like the Houston Bills,

535
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Speaker 3: trade is massive in the AFC. You know, so his.

536
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl contenders in the NFC, he has San Francisco, Detroit,

537
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Speaker 2: Green Bay, Dallas, and Philadelphia.

538
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Speaker 3: I'm souring greatly on Dallas. They did nothing.

539
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Speaker 2: They've done nothing, and.

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Speaker 3: They've really not handled their cap very well. They haven't

541
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Speaker 3: had handled the Dak Prescott stuff very well. And the

542
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Speaker 3: draft isn't going to be that helpful to him. Do

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Speaker 3: we think Philly's still a Super Bowl contender? And his

544
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Speaker 3: Green Bay there yet?

545
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Speaker 2: Philly had his Saquon Barkley. I don't know if the

546
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Speaker 2: defense is going to be.

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Speaker 3: I like the coordinator changes, yeah, just for the sake

548
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Speaker 3: of change even but I like Fangio. Yeah, I'm gonna

549
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Speaker 3: say yes, I would say so you trust them more

550
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Speaker 3: than Green Bay?

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Speaker 2: I might, But somebody's gonna win the East. I think

552
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Speaker 2: Philadelphia would be the favorite right now.

553
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Speaker 3: If I had to put one chip down today, I'd

554
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Speaker 3: take the Eagles in the East.

555
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're a division winner, you're a super Bowl content.

556
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Speaker 3: Think about the Packers, ye know, they're they're certainly not

557
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Speaker 3: a sure bet. To win their their division.

558
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Speaker 2: I get Detroit, Yeah, battle.

559
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Speaker 3: And everyone just assumes all their young guys will take

560
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Speaker 3: the huge seat leap forward. That's not really how the

561
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Speaker 3: world works.

562
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Speaker 2: Yeah, playoff potential teams Atlanta, Tampa Bay and the Rams.

563
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Speaker 3: Good list. I would not have the Saints on that part,

564
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Speaker 3: or the Bears yet.

565
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 2: Or intriguing possibilities Chicago and Seattle. Yes, and then your.

566
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Speaker 3: Chicago could easily sneak into the playoffs.

567
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Speaker 2: Yeah, tough road ahead the Vikings, the Saints and the Giants.

568
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Speaker 3: I mean the Vikings are not going to have a

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Speaker 3: good quarterback. No, I mean it might turn into one,

570
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Speaker 3: but right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then next year can't come fast enough as Carolina,

572
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Speaker 2: Washington and Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. So if we use those same mm

575
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Speaker 2: hmm factors for the AFC, who are our AFC Super

576
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Speaker 2: Bowl contenders? Obviously Kansas City is there.

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Speaker 3: I don't see one in the East anymore.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a step back for the Bills. I've

580
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 3: never been there. With Miami. Things would have to align,

581
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Speaker 3: the planets would have to align perfect for the Jets.

582
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Speaker 3: But frankly, if you told me one team was in

583
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Speaker 3: the East was going to win the Super Bowl. I

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Speaker 3: would pick the Jets. I'm not predicting they would, but if.

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Speaker 2: You like, I think those teams are in that next

586
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Speaker 2: year down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think since he's a super Bowl contender.

588
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Speaker 2: So you've got Kansas City, since he Houston, Moore put

589
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Speaker 2: in Houston there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably the weakest one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Baltimore would be two since he and Houston would be

593
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Speaker 3: three or four something like that. That's it. I'm not

594
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Speaker 3: giving Cleveland, nobody else in the South, nobody else in

595
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Speaker 3: the West. That's it for super Bowl contenders to me. Okay,

596
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Speaker 3: what's the next parameters?

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Speaker 2: The next one is playoff potential. This is going to

598
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Speaker 2: be a big group in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: I like to go division by divisions. I'll miss anyone.

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Speaker 3: Buffalo still right, Miami still right, the Jets, the Jets,

601
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Speaker 3: the Steelers and Browns. Jacksonville, but I don't trust him.

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00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: Tennessee Colts.

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Speaker 3: I put the Colts over Tennessee.

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00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: I would too.

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Speaker 3: I'm not ready to do that on Tennessee yet, though, Okay,

606
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Speaker 3: And I don't think the Raiders try.

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Speaker 2: Anybody else in the West. No, you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: see it.

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Speaker 3: I'm rough on that to that group, I think.

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Speaker 2: There's a better chance that the Steelers are a super

611
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Speaker 2: Bowl contender than any of those other teams in the

612
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Speaker 2: West are a Playoff contender.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I really think the Broncos and Raiders could have

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Speaker 3: top five picks. Yeah, I mean, I think they're flat

615
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Speaker 3: out bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in Denver's Chargers, the Chargers Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Charge at least have a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: That's all they have, right, and a couple of pass rushers. Yeah. Yeah,

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00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: intriguing possibilities, struggling. Maybe maybe the Jets should Maybe the

620
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: jetsha in the Titans should be in that group.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jack, see the Jets would in thirteen games, I

622
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: could see them also having thirteen injuries. Right.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I can go there with it,

624
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: because everybody they've signed as old.

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Speaker 3: They went.

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Speaker 2: They went out and got a bunch of old guys

627
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: to go with their old quarterback.

628
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Speaker 3: I think I said this year before, but Mike Lombardi

629
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Speaker 3: calls them the New York ifs. Yeah, he's like, if

630
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Speaker 3: he stays healthy, and if he stays healthy, and if

631
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Speaker 3: he stays healthy, they may be the best team in

632
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: the league. But if so, usually don't go your way.

633
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 3: And you only need two or three of them, especially

634
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: the quarterback, to not go your way.

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Speaker 2: I think that's maybe why I would put that, Maybe

636
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: the Jets should belong in that category with Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know that Tennessee has any chance to

638
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: be a contender though, But that's not what that category means. No,

639
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: it's intriguing.

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00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a whole new it's intriguing what they've done

641
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: around the young quarterback.

642
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: Massive sweeping changes including coach. Yeah, okay, they're both going

643
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: that categor for different reasons. Next year though.

644
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: Tough road ahead, Well, I think we just named the

645
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: entire AFC West. That is not the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not the I don't know if i'd put any

647
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: in this category. Maybe Tennessee.

648
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: You can't put the Patriots in that one.

649
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: I think the road ahead, I don't think I think

650
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 3: it's as too good for that or too bad for that. Yeah, yeah,

651
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: I think there's some wait till next year's.

652
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: Might be a bunch of those. I think the hierarchy

653
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: this year is again it's the haves and the have nots.

654
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: I think there's not a lower middle class. I think

655
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 3: there's some junk, there's some a lot of teams I

656
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: could envision in the playoffs, the Colts, Yeah, teams like

657
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: that that aren't phenomenal but could definitely make the playoffs.

658
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: And then there's some contenders. But there's some junk.

659
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: There's some definite junk.

660
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: I think the Patriots are junk.

661
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: Those three AFC West team, Yeah, I think.

662
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 3: We put the Chargers with them. I guess that's it.

663
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: Tennessee could be terrible.

664
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: I might. I might put the Chargers in the tough

665
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: road ahead just because they take the quarterback.

666
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 3: I think they're better than that other group, just because

667
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: of Herbert. Give Harbought some credit.

668
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: They still have Bosa, they still have Mac, they got

669
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: some dudes. They just don't have enough dudes.

670
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's gonna be a tough road ahead, and

671
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: they don't make calfs face.

672
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: All their dudes have shown that they can't stay.

673
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: Healthy right now. They're a perfect team for tough road ahead. Yeah,

674
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I Herbert's not in a great situation transitioning, right,

675
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: You're gonna draft a bunch of guys and make a

676
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: lot of changes. But it's gonna be a tough road.

677
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then that next year can't come fast enough.

678
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: Is certainly New England in Denver, Denver, the Raiders.

679
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: I think the Raiders are there too. I know that

680
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: a lot of people be like, well, the Raiders, you know,

681
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: finished strong with their new coach. Maybe Garter Mitschhew is

682
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: a quarterback, right, I mean, maybe they trade up for

683
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: somebody or make a move. I don't know. I talk

684
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: about this all the time with Max at twelve and thirteen,

685
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: or the Raiders in Denver. I would be so scared

686
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: that they do something dumb like trade the farm for

687
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy or it takes like Pinnix or Knicks right there,

688
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: just because they're in quarterback no man's land. Yeah, and

689
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: Denver doesn't even have a second round pick. You know,

690
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: the Raiders don't have a right side their offensive line.

691
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: You know, like it's a bad situation.

692
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: It really is.

693
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 3: I mean, if if I were the g I'd much

694
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: rather be the Cardinals GM. Then either one of those

695
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: teams at least have picks and I could start building something. Yeah,

696
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 3: those two teams worry me.

697
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: So we said four teams in the Super Bowl contenders,

698
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: do we.

699
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: See I'm not sure about CINCI and Houston. Yeah, I

700
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: definitely think Baltimore could win the Super Bowl. But I

701
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: think they're worse now than they were a couple.

702
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: On well, without a doubt. Yeah, Like their offensive line

703
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: is a mess right now.

704
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: Baltimore and the Bill's got hit the hardest in the AFC. Yeah,

705
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: I thought Miami get hit harder, but that's coming.

706
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: They got hit pretty hard though at.

707
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: Least they added some things, though they.

708
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 2: Not on defense. They add an offense need offense, I know,

709
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: that's not where their issue was. They get rid of

710
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: Victor Fangio and a bunch of defensive stars. How's that

711
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: going to be any better?

712
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: And and they kicked the can down the road massively

713
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: in the salary cap world.

714
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: They got rid of one of the best defensive coordinators

715
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: in the league and some of their best defensive players.

716
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: In fact, you could make the argument that they got

717
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: rid of their best defensive players.

718
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they cut the linebacker and Howard and yeah,

719
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: they got hit hard. The offense some rise they were

720
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: able to do anything like I thought. I really thought

721
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: they'd get gutted this.

722
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just kind of what happens with you know.

723
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: I know, people look at Mike mcdan, oh, he's you know,

724
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: he's an offensive genius. Let's f he'd better be he has.

725
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: They have to sign a quarterback, right, I mean, do

726
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: we think Marahem Moster is going to stay healthy again?

727
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: Just extended him.

728
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: They extend him. I think that's bonkers. He had a

729
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 3: good year. He's like thirty one years old and he's

730
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: never been healthy as.

731
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: Runs into the wall an hour twenty five times a game.

732
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Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of where Miami's at. Like I

733
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: can understand what Buffalo's doing. We're gonna reset. We're gonna

734
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: eat our vegetables for a year. We open up a

735
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: lot of cap space. We got two second round picks

736
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: next year. Josh isn't going anywhere. We may take our lumps,

737
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: but we still got that guy a long time. You know,

738
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: we'll be fun. We'll take a step back, take one

739
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: on the chin, go to the gym, come out swinging.

740
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 3: You know, I at least get that they needed to reset.

741
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 3: But they also lost Morpse both, They lost White, they

742
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: lost both safeties, they lost Gabe Davis, they lost digsh

743
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: I mean all the same positions too.

744
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: You know, Buffalo is kind of in this situation that

745
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: the Steelers were in, say twenty eleven, where. Okay, a

746
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: lot of these guys that you had here who are

747
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: here prior to your quarterback being here, are now have

748
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: gotten old and you need to move on from the

749
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: safeties the center. Yeah, you know those guys, you can't.

750
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: Be count on them forever. Ye, Right, And in a way,

751
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 3: it's kind of like when the Chiefs traded Tarik It's like, well,

752
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: we're paying Mahomes now, we got rid of some stuff.

753
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: We're gonna rebuild with draft picks. But they win a

754
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: Super Bowl that year, Right, that's the difference that guy's

755
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: They also Kelsey, yeah, and Chris Jones and yeah, and

756
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: I'll take Andy Reid over McDermott all day long too. Yeah.

757
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: That's an amazing feat what the Chiefs did. That's not

758
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 3: usually how it goes.

759
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 2: If the Steelers get out of Russell Wilson, let's say

760
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: close to last year's numbers. Let's say he throws twenty

761
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 2: four touchdown passes, the interceptions are around eight or nine, yeah,

762
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: where they were at last year. He doesn't take as

763
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: many sacks, yeah, and therefore doesn't fumble ten times like

764
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: you were last year. Right, Let's say it's let's say

765
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: it's six fumbles instead of ten. Are they in that

766
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: super Bowl contender range? Borderline, I think they're closer to

767
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 2: that than they are a team that's just a playoff contender.

768
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

769
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: Simply because and this I think people I don't think

770
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: this gets stressed enough. The way that the Steelers are

771
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: played within their division the last two years is important.

772
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 3: Like you, you've, like I bet there are special teams

773
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 3: will be wanted the best in the league.

774
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've owned the Ravens the last four years. Really,

775
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: you're seven and one against them over the last four seasons.

776
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: You found ways every you know, each year to beat

777
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: Burrow in the in the Bengals. Whether it was with Burrow

778
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: or whoever else, you still won games against the Bengals.

779
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: With divisions undeniable. Yeah, that's a lot of Tomlin obviously too.

780
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, understanding what your opponents are trying to do, understanding

781
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: your you.

782
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: Know, whipped up on the Browns for years too. I

783
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 3: mean that still exists.

784
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: If you, I mean, if you can do that again

785
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: this year, Let's say you go four and two in

786
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: the division this year, we're gonna be pretty good.

787
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 3: We'd all take four and two. Yeah, right now, as

788
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: it stands, you know, hey, Burrow could miss a year

789
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 3: again too. I mean, like, what's gonna happen'd But.

790
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 2: At the beginning the last sure if you said five

791
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: and one going into the you won the division, going

792
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: run ran away with it.

793
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: Like wow, this season went really really well. Yeah, I

794
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 3: mean that was preseason picket all year long, you know, right,

795
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: that's what you'd think.

796
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: I think if they get that not preseason picket level,

797
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: but if they get above average quarterback play or average

798
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: to above average quarterback play.

799
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: I mean, we said a lot of this last this defense,

800
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: but I think Wilson's more capable of doing it than Picket,

801
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: and there's some hindsight there. Of course. If he's the

802
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: fourteenth best quarterback in the league, I think they'll win

803
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: double digit game.

804
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: I think you're a super Bowl contender.

805
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that's what you're looking.

806
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: You'd still need some things to fall right for you

807
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, you know, maybe.

808
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: Still might not win division. Yeah, right, that's the thing,

809
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: brutal division. You might be third in the division if

810
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: he's the fourteenth best quarterback in the league, yeah, and

811
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 3: still win ten games, right. I Mean, it's just nature

812
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: of the beast. Depending what games. They are. If he's

813
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 3: a fourteenth best quarterback in the league and you win

814
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 3: four division games, you're probably an eleven win team, right,

815
00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: or you know, hosting a.

816
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: Game, maybe do ruin the division because everybody's going to

817
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: beat up.

818
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: On each other, may mean you probably the only team

819
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: in division of the winning record in the division in

820
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: the division division.

821
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,479
Speaker 2: Right, everybod else would be three and three or for worse. Yeah, something,

822
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,479
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the defense is going to be better.

823
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: I think the defense gonna be better.

824
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 3: This is center receiver situations as it stands on April four.

825
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: Don't los hard for me to you know, I'd like

826
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 3: to see those answers before we go down that road.

827
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 3: I understand if he's only thrown the pickings of Friarmouth

828
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: all year, the answer is no, Yeah, somebody else is

829
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 3: gonna have to catch balls, and center is gonna be

830
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: better than this or tackle.

831
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson last year showed that he's he'll throw to

832
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 2: the running backs.

833
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. I could see them gonna spike and

834
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: catches collectively and definitely tight ends.

835
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: So just different ways to skin a cat there. They'll

836
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: move the football.

837
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: I think so. I think so. I think they'll run

838
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 3: the ball. Well, I also say there's a lot of

839
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: additions coming to the offense.

840
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: Well, I mean we just did our mock draft and

841
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: we offense heavy and the.

842
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 3: First Street picks in the cards.

843
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

844
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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the driver here on

845
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back to finish up the

846
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: show right after this. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly. He

847
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson, and Matt I want to go

848
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: through a mock draft here. This one was done on

849
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: CBS Sports by former Vikings general manager Rick Spielman along

850
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 2: with Brian McFadden, the former Steelers cornerback, and our friend

851
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: Ryan Wilson, who also works of them. The three of

852
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: them sat down and came up with this mock draft,

853
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: and so I thought this one would be interesting to

854
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: take a look at. So they have Caleb Williams one

855
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: surpriser at Jade and Daniels two.

856
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 3: Don't you know if they like each took turns picking

857
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: or did the three of them have to consensus.

858
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: Ah, yes, they took turns picking. Wilson took Williams first,

859
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: McFadden took Jayden Daniels at two. Spielman took Drake May

860
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 2: at three for the Patriots.

861
00:39:58,719 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: Nothing crazy there.

862
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: At four, Ryan Wilson trades up with the Vikings to

863
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: go get JJ McCarthy.

864
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: I think there's a legit chance. At four, first four

865
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: picks our quarterbacks.

866
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 2: McFadden then at pick five takes Marvin Harrison.

867
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Speaker 3: I think it's a gift.

868
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. At six, Rick Spielman takes Malik Neighbors for the Giants.

869
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: Another gift.

870
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Speaker 3: Thrilled. At seven, they're gonna get one of those receivers

871
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: if they want them. Yeah, yeah.

872
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 2: Ryan Wilson takes Joe Alt Okay, chalk chalk chocks.

873
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: First sevens aren't super eventful. At eight, I don't love

874
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: them being an eight, I try to get out.

875
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: Atlanta takes Jared Verse. This is from Brian Fadden, close.

876
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 3: To being the eighth best player in this draft. I mean,

877
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 3: I understand the need and all that, but I would

878
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: be entertaining offers like crazy. At eight.

879
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: This is different. Spielman then at nine takes Dallas Turner.

880
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 3: They need a bookend for sweat. That's the Bears, right, Yeah, yeah,

881
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: I get it. I mean they don't need a doomsay,

882
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: but I would take a doomsday yeah.

883
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: I mean they got an early second round pick coming

884
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: here that if they.

885
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: Don't think they do, I think they're out of seconds.

886
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: Are they out of second?

887
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? Because they traded for Sweat.

888
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 2: I mean we just talked about it though in the previously,

889
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: Like they don't need a wide receiver. They could trade

890
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: out of that spot easily and get a lot for it. Yeah.

891
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: Then at ten, you me.

892
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: Not picking until the fifth round. I think the Bears

893
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 3: are really light on the ground picks. Don't quote me

894
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: on that.

895
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: At ten, the Jets stay there and they take Roman Dunzie.

896
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 3: Oh, I would take a doomsay over hours, even though

897
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: Bowers are bigger need for the Jets. Yeah, just great player.

898
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: At eleven, the Cardinals after trading down, get quinnya Mitchell.

899
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: It's fine, it's a need.

900
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: At twelve, Spielman has the Broncos in taking Terry and Arnold.

901
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 3: If you were Peyton, would you take Terry and Arnold

902
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: or brock Bauers. I gotta take powers, you know they

903
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 3: may throw to them.

904
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: Well, that's the problem.

905
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: I mean you could take an edge there, you could

906
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 3: take they need everything. If even Garrett Bowles is up after.

907
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: This year, they've like, if you think back to Peyton's career, though,

908
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: they've had the Jimmy grahams.

909
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: I know. Yeah, I think tight ends an appealing spot

910
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 3: for them.

911
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. I get taking Arnold though, because now you got

912
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: really good cornerbacks.

913
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: I'm to be honest, I'd rather that's be the last

914
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: GM job I think I want of all thirtys awesome, brutal. Yeah.

915
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: At thirteen, the Cowboys trade up line to get Olufshanu

916
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: or fashion I should.

917
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 3: Say Smith and I may I get it.

918
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 2: That was from Ryan Wilson. At fourteen, McFadden has the

919
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: Saints taking to Lasi Fuaga.

920
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the ram check stuff. I was talking with

921
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 3: Saint Scott recently. I guess that there's news coming soon. Yeah,

922
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 3: I mean so.

923
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: That's probably very lately.

924
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he could retire, he could be fine.

925
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 3: It's a lot of outcomes there.

926
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: At fifteen, Spielman has the Colts taking Cooper dejen Are even.

927
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: Sure fit off the Yeah, I think he's more of

928
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: an Off Sherman type corner play downhill, that's what they do. Yeah,

929
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: would you take him over brock Bowers if you were there.

930
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 3: You could say that about Saints too. I mean, the

931
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: Bowers is a weird one for everybody, for everybody, and

932
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 3: the Colts are weird. They have four tight ends and

933
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: that's how they're built on purpose, right, not invested in

934
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: one of them. You know, it might not be their philosophy,

935
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 3: but I bet Richardson would like them. Yeah, you know.

936
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: At sixteen, Ryan Wilson has the Seahawks taking Jackson Powers Johnson.

937
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: I think that's possible. I really think they're gonna take

938
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: an o linement. I think it'll be Fatanu or JPJ.

939
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. At seventeen, McFadden has Jacksonville taking Nate Wiggins.

940
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 3: It's possible. There are another team that could go direction, corner,

941
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: or basically anything on offense.

942
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: At eighteen, Spielman has J. C. Latham to the Bengals.

943
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: If you throw them in a right guard or something

944
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 3: off the bat play right away and yeah, I figure

945
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: it out style play fits. I mean, he'd be another

946
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: guard game. They would massive. That's a lot of.

947
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 2: They could have. They would have over one thousand pounds

948
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: and three of their offensive lineman well over uh. The

949
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: Rams then, according to Ryan Wilson, would take Byron Murphy

950
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: at nineteen.

951
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: I'm leaning towards Newton being the better player than Murphy,

952
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: but obviously there's a Aaron Donald Holds size hole there. Yeah,

953
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 3: you're not gonna fill with one player.

954
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: But McFadden then at twenty has the Steelers taking Amarius Mims.

955
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: I would take Fatana over Mems, I think is still there.

956
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 2: Nogo went earlier the Saints. The Saints, Yeah, Sofatan who's yeah,

957
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: I would take Mems too right now if we sign

958
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: me up for it, it.

959
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 3: Would be great if they both are sitting there.

960
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, now you're now you get options. At

961
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: twenty one, then Spielman has Fatanu going to the Dolphins.

962
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 3: They placed somewhere on that line. Yeah, they could go

963
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 3: d line as easy as the line, though both are

964
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: kind of a mess.

965
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: At twenty two, Wilson has Enis Restraw to the Eagles.

966
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: Who earlier than I like.

967
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 2: But that's it's a definite need.

968
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 3: Oh it is. That's corner four in this mock, right right,

969
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: So it's ahead of kool aid. Who is it? Also

970
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: ahead of Arnold's gone, Mitchell's gone.

971
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: Jean is gone.

972
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's my four? Though? Okay, I don't know that's four. Yeah,

973
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: but I'm trying to think my top five did not

974
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: have Rakes draw in it, and those three are my

975
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 3: top three? Why am I drawing a blank? Who?

976
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 2: My four is Wiggins?

977
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 3: Wiggins and he's already gone.

978
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 2: He's already gone.

979
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 3: That makes sense.

980
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fifth, Cod's up more. At twenty three,

981
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 2: Brian McFadden has the Cardinals taking Brian Thomas, and.

982
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 3: They took a corner to begin with. Yeah, okay, that's fine. Again.

983
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: Would you rather have Mitchell and Thomas or Marvin Harrison Junior?

984
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: I think I'd rather Marvin Harrison Jr.

985
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: I get it though for them though, they need a lot.

986
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see both sides. I'm just throwing it out

987
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 3: there that, Hey, Thomas is great, the Corners great rate Marvin.

988
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we don't get to see here exactly.

989
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: They may have gotten some other stuff later here too,

990
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: instead of just those two. First.

991
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: You don't know that whenever you make the trade for

992
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 3: get out of five or whatever. Four.

993
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: At twenty four, the Raiders trade up with the Cowboys

994
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 2: because remember they traded back. Actually this is a trade

995
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: back Cowboys. The Cowboys moved up to get to the

996
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: offensive lineman Yeah.

997
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 3: I love trading back for the Raider. Yeah, maybe you

998
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: do take the quarterback here.

999
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: And the Raiders take Michael Pennox.

1000
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: Okay, they saw that's smart.

1001
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. At twenty five, the Packers take Tyler Geiton. That's

1002
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: Ryan Wilson making that pick.

1003
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: I can see that there are another team like the

1004
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: Steelers that never have like first round tackles. Yeah, you

1005
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 3: never have that luxury.

1006
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 2: That leaves us down on him. Brian McFadden that picked

1007
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: twenty six has Tampa Bay taking Chop Robinson.

1008
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: I can see they invest in d Lineman time and

1009
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: time again.

1010
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 2: There was this guy was on the board. At twenty seven,

1011
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: Spielman has the Cardinals taking Layout too late too.

1012
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 3: Like I were the Bucks and I'm a playoff team,

1013
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 3: I would take Lay two over Robinson in a heart beat.

1014
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: But that's I mean, that's nice for the Cardinals, and

1015
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 3: we were just talking about him. I mean you would

1016
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 3: end up with if they move out of four, you

1017
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,959
Speaker 3: have three first round picks. Yeah, you currently have two.

1018
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: That's nice. Nice uf. Yeah, they want to shin nice

1019
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: shiny things.

1020
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 3: Yeah they are they are.

1021
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 2: At twenty eight, Ryan Wilson has a Donnie Mitchell to

1022
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 2: the Bills.

1023
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 3: They were holding their breath that he falls to there.

1024
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1025
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: I don't even love him, but they need him bad.

1026
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. At twenty nine, McFadden has kool Aid mckinstrey to Detroit.

1027
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 3: I think that's a good fit. I mean they're a contender.

1028
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 3: He's a plug and play guy, plays a lot of man. Yeah, yeah,

1029
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 3: I like it.

1030
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: At thirty Spielman has Jordan Morgan to Baltimore.

1031
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe he would start out a guard for them,

1032
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: right tackle.

1033
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: It's kind of a finesse player. I don't love the

1034
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 2: Fins type team.

1035
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 3: They're not. I could see him being a Niner.

1036
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. At thirty one, Wilson has Darius Robinson to the

1037
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers.

1038
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: Again, they collect defensive lineman. They'd rotate those dudes in.

1039
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then at thirty two McFadden has brock Bowers

1040
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: to the Chiefs.

1041
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 3: That's wrong. I think we've even thrown this out there. Like,

1042
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: if I was the Chiefs at thirty two, I might

1043
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 3: trade up to eighteen for brock Bowers. Yeah, I might

1044
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 3: give you next year's first if.

1045
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: They called it. If you're the Steelers in twenty you

1046
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: get to twenty, Yeah, and the Chiefs call and they're

1047
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: offering this year's first, this year's second, and a second

1048
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: next year to come up and.

1049
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: Get I mean, you know they're all late picks of course, right,

1050
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: So if you were the Chiefs, would you give up

1051
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: thirty two this year and your first next year for

1052
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 3: brock Powers. I mean, it's not gonna be the top

1053
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: ten pick.

1054
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 2: Doesn't help my offensive line though, doesn't.

1055
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 3: I would second, you know, oh yeah, him and Kelston

1056
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: the field together for a year and then just hand

1057
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: it over. Yeah, I'd run it by Kelsey like, hey.

1058
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: You okay with this?

1059
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what we want. You'll love him. You know.

1060
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 3: He can't end up in Kent. See that's wrong.

1061
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: I don't see that happening, right, Yeah. I think they

1062
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: would have to move up to do that. But where

1063
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: are the landing spots?

1064
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 3: There's a lot.

1065
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I'm just looking at the teams.

1066
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: San Francisco is not going to take him.

1067
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 3: No, I think it starts at like eleven, right, But

1068
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 3: I'm just working my way back up, Jets, I'm working

1069
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 3: my way back up, Okay. Baltimore no, Baltimore.

1070
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: No, Detroit no, Buffalo no.

1071
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: No first round picked last year, Arizona no, McBride. They

1072
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 3: have too many other stuff.

1073
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay could be, could be, but I.

1074
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: Mean too good to pass up highest guy on the board.

1075
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: I get it.

1076
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 3: I mean it's the Pittsburgh conversation, you know.

1077
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 2: Green Bay to last year. The Raiders took a quarterback.

1078
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 2: They're not gonna take it tight.

1079
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: They took they get Yeah, they get it tight.

1080
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: The Cardinals again, Philadelphia doubtful. Yeah, I mean they got Godard,

1081
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: they have got it, and they have other major names.

1082
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: Miami No, doubtful, although he could. You know, they need

1083
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 2: offensive line help.

1084
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1085
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: The Steelers would be the next.

1086
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 3: Team of the playoff teams.

1087
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they just signed it. They got four, They

1088
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 2: got five tight ends on the roster right now. That

1089
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: are all guys who played in the NFL.

1090
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, will he be in my top twenty

1091
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: Steeler picks probably yeah, But but I bet someone's ahead

1092
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 3: of them. Yeah, like in this case, the Rams they

1093
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 3: took Byron Murphy instead. Yeah, I could see McVeigh fiddling

1094
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 3: with that.

1095
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 2: The Bengals they took Latham.

1096
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying landing spots.

1097
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying over what they took.

1098
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: Well, and then not necessarily, but I think that could

1099
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 3: he could easily land to Cincinnati. Jacksonville's not gonna take

1100
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 3: Jackson won't take them. Seattle out for Lanscape fan money.

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00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: Ter culture. Yes, but they got Cooper Dejane there right right. Yeah.

1102
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 3: I'm not saying what these guys had to pay. They're

1103
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: saying there's a lot of landing spots in this.

1104
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: It might it's shocking that he lasts that long, but

1105
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: is it.

1106
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a desert area from like twenty one

1107
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 3: to thirty one. I just think maybe a team at

1108
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 3: the top of the second.

1109
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: Round, Saint Snow, Dallas Snow.

1110
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 3: I don't know about the Saints. I mean their line

1111
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: needs are massive. Yeah, it's just and there will be

1112
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 3: linemen there.

1113
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: I mean for some of these teams, a tight end

1114
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: would be a luxury.

1115
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: I know, if it's fast. The Jets, it gets a

1116
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: little hairy.

1117
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. The the Broncos over.

1118
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 3: It out there. I think that's not a bad fit,

1119
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 3: but they have they need everything.

1120
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: Cardinals again, No, and then you get to the Jets,

1121
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: but they got well in this case. In this case,

1122
00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: in this scenario, you're taking that like Atlanta, Wooden's Chicago, No, No,

1123
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: they signed Everett and Comet Tennessee.

1124
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 3: Not overall, not overall, right, right, right, he's always.

1125
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: Ad there aren't there are just aren't many landing spots

1126
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: for a tight end, even a very good tight end.

1127
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, that's that's one hundred percent true. And trade

1128
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 3: downs and stuff will influence all those things.

1129
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: So could Kansas City move up with one of those

1130
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: teams if he's let's say he's there at twenty.

1131
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 3: But that I think is possible. Him getting to thirty

1132
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 3: two I think is impossible. Yeah, he's just too good

1133
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 3: a player, Like.

1134
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 2: Somebody will move up to get him. Somebody will move Yeah,

1135
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: somebody will come up to get him.

1136
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, or even the Chiefs, Yeah, could achieve some of

1137
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: the twenty get him, yes, or even earlier.

1138
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 2: They would have to give up a pretty good ransom

1139
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: to do that.

1140
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 3: Tough team to deal with because you know, their future

1141
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 3: picks aren't worth the same as.

1142
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 2: Most team unless you want to throw in a player.

1143
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you know, give us one of your young

1144
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 3: d back.

1145
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeahthing like that they're playing in the slot.

1146
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah maybe. Do you really want to make the Chiefs

1147
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 3: stronger too.

1148
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: But you're also making them a little weak because yeah,

1149
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 2: that's trade world.

1150
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 3: I just worried about myself.

1151
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: Mahomes is mahomes. They're gonna be good. No matter what happens.

1152
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: You know, you're gonna have to deal with it.

1153
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 3: I just think the planet would not be happy if

1154
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 3: Rock Bowers ended up. It would be one city in

1155
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 3: the whole NFL that would be happy about that situation.

1156
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: Everyone's talking about. Don't let Worthy go to Kansas City?

1157
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 3: Much rather Worthy got there than Bower.

1158
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, what if they give you next year's first though?

1159
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 3: I need at least that you go from twenty to

1160
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 3: thirty two.

1161
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Like they give you, they give

1162
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 2: you the two firsts and something and a little sweetener

1163
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: on there too this year.

1164
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 3: Still not picking for a while, Yeah, but I mean

1165
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 3: two first next year is great.

1166
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: I might be in a quarterback market next year. Maybe

1167
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 2: maybe it's not thirty two, maybe it's.

1168
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: I think it's two playoff picks. I mean, if the

1169
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 3: Steelers first and the Chiefs first, or probably two playoff picks. Okay,

1170
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: and one of them almost definitely.

1171
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 2: But if I can, if I can use those two

1172
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: first rounders, then to go up. Let's say I gotta

1173
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: go up and get a quarterback. I'm going to go

1174
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: up to let's let's say I have again twenty and

1175
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: thirty two. I can use that to get up into

1176
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: the high teens or even.

1177
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 3: Get you to ten. Yeah, something like that. Oh, I

1178
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 3: know there's value there. But you might have passed on

1179
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 3: all the tackles, right, and you're sitting there at thirty two.

1180
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: Or I get I get thirty two. Kasually Sue Mattia

1181
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 2: is still there.

1182
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 3: You might get Barton Graham, Barton still there.

1183
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 2: He didn't get picked.

1184
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 3: There'll be a receiver, but it's not the guy at twenty.

1185
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 3: It's not obviously right.

1186
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: But I didn't love Mems there. I would have taken

1187
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: Patano instead.

1188
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 3: And no one's making you pick a thirty two. You

1189
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 3: can go back to twenty six and get Mims. No,

1190
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 3: you could trade back up, right, Yeah, yeah, I like

1191
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 3: having options. I would definitely talk to Kansas City, but

1192
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 3: their first was worth a lot less than most. Yeah,

1193
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 3: their future first. Yeah.

1194
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: Anyways, that was an interesting little mock again. The landing

1195
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: spots for brock Bowers. It's tough.

1196
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 3: It's definitely, it's really tough. Yeah, it really is.

1197
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: Once he gets past a certain spot there it's like, Eh.

1198
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 3: The thing is, it's unusual in the league now is

1199
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 3: there's a lot of good young tight end ends, the loporters,

1200
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 3: the concaids.

1201
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: The last year's draft just happened right Washington, like six

1202
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: six tight ends, seven tight ends that came in. You're

1203
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: not in the market for these guys.

1204
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, you're the best tight end draft

1205
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 3: ever the year before, the best tight end that came

1206
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 3: out ever. Is going to hurt them, right, Yeah, I

1207
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 3: mean it definitely is.

1208
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: Anyways, let's let's gonna do it for today's show. He uh,

1209
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 2: you know, we'll be back again on Monday. Of course,

1210
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 2: we'll go Monday Wednesday Friday next week, Monday Wednesday, Friday

1211
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: the next week, and then Monday Wednesday.

1212
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 3: Draft Draft, Draft, Draft, draft. Can't wait? Okay, it's rich.

1213
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 3: What do we have eight drives between now and draft?

1214
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: So we got eight more mock drafts to do here.

1215
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 3: Man up for any ideas too.

1216
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, uh, anyways, that's going to do it for my partner,

1217
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. Uh, I'm Dale, Lolly. We appreciate you listening

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Speaker 2: to this edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.