WEBVTT - Agenda 47: Trump's Border and Immigration Plan

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<v Speaker 1>Also media, Hello and welcome, da could happen here podcast

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<v Speaker 1>where my friend Garrison Davis and I inc her countless

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<v Speaker 1>amounts of trauma by watching videos of Donald Trump talking

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<v Speaker 1>about things he doesn't understand.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing today, Garrison.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm doing fine and peachy on this wonderful spring afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll sort that out for you. We'll bring you

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<v Speaker 2>back down because what we gathered here today to discuss, Garrison,

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<v Speaker 2>is that we talked about gender forty seven yesterday. So

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully people have listened. If you haven't, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>can go back and understand what the gender forty seven is.

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<v Speaker 2>This short version is that it's Donald Trump's policy platform

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<v Speaker 2>for his proposed second term. Right, if he gets elected

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty four, and there is a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>agenda forty seven, we'll breaking down.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of forty seven. Yeah, yeah, arguably too much

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<v Speaker 3>agenda forty seven, yes, so yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>One could argue that, I think quite compellingly, what we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about today is his bordered immigration policy. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it'll shock anyone to hear that these are

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<v Speaker 2>major pillars of gender forty seven. Right, he kind of

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<v Speaker 2>launched his political career with an incredibly bigoted speech about migrants,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's been the real through line, Like the only thing,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the few things where he actually was able

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<v Speaker 2>to be efficient enough to do a large amount of

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<v Speaker 2>harm was at the border and with immigration right, and

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<v Speaker 2>it certainly seems like he has plans to a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more in twenty twenty four. Post twenty twenty four, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess Biden's tried to counter this by lurching to the right,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's handled a lot of people in the process.

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<v Speaker 2>But this hasn't stopped Trump without taking a breath out,

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<v Speaker 2>flanking him far to the right on immigration policy. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we're going to talk about today. So Gender

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven website. It's structured with a series of these

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<v Speaker 2>scripted rumble videos which are embedded and then in a

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<v Speaker 2>spectacular own goal also transcripted, which just like like Garrison

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<v Speaker 2>said yesterday, it is a joy to read Donald Trump speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>Without hearing Donald Trump speaking, it is you never know

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<v Speaker 2>what's coming next, like it consistently blindside you. No one

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<v Speaker 2>can the best to ever do it, and no one,

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<v Speaker 2>no one could replicate Donald Trump. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the pages detail his proposed actions on his first day

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<v Speaker 2>in office, right, what he's going to do with his

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<v Speaker 2>executive power or which, as we'll go into, he seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be this is not a man who attended civic

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<v Speaker 2>class and paid attention.

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<v Speaker 3>Well because because it was one weaponized Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah yeah, he he's loving American didn't go. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The other things address like cloudy right wing talking points

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<v Speaker 2>which in many cases kind of either fictional or over exaggerated,

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<v Speaker 2>are not really related to what's going on with the

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<v Speaker 2>border and midration, and he sort of proposes quoe unquote

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<v Speaker 2>solutions often it's not exactly clear how or if these

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<v Speaker 2>things are legal, But like I think, as we'll get into,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't really matter. His big theme going through all

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<v Speaker 2>of his immigration content is to end what he calls

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<v Speaker 2>automatic citizenship for children. I'm not going to do the voice.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do the.

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<v Speaker 3>Voice because you're cursed with your britishness blessed yes, yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>God's chosen people. Okay, yeah, average average Christian identity opinion heaverage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, big big Christian identity opinion have it? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So Donald Trump, right, his big thing is taking a

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<v Speaker 2>swing at the Fourteenth Amendment right a birthright citizenship it's

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<v Speaker 2>very funny that it's not funny. Actually it's quite fucked.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're not familiar, the Fourteenth Amendment was passed

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<v Speaker 2>after the Civil War, and in the first part of

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<v Speaker 2>the Fourteenth Amendment, there's a sentence that reads, all persons

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<v Speaker 2>born or naturalized in the United States and the subject

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<v Speaker 2>to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States. Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds very simple.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does, doesn't it. It does. What you're not considering

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<v Speaker 2>Garrison is like some fringes on the Flagg tier legal bullshit,

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<v Speaker 2>which Donald Trump and his camp, unsurprisingly are pursuing. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get to a little bit about this later.

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<v Speaker 2>This is they're not the first group of people to

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<v Speaker 2>make ending birth right citizenship the whole thing right. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been a sort of a bugbear on the right for

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<v Speaker 2>a while. So, as I said, the funding for men

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<v Speaker 2>was strongly opposed by Confederate states after the Civil War, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but they were forced to ratify it in order to

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<v Speaker 2>regain representation in Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I get fucked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, So John, Donald Trump's now bringing I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>coming back on behalf of the Confederacy to challenge the

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<v Speaker 2>Fourteenth to make any such cases in this and many

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<v Speaker 2>other ways. That's why they call him stone Wall Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>do they they? Yeah? Wait, really no, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I guarantee, I guarantee. Let's us google it

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<v Speaker 2>real quick. Let's see what comes up. Stonewall Trump, It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be one of two things. Stonewall really splits. Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now there's some curse stuff there. Google that your own risk.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So the fourteenth Amendment has been really pivotal in American history.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the most litigated amendments to the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It gave us the Road decision, which has now been overheard,

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<v Speaker 2>give us the Obergefel decision, which legalized the same sex marriage,

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<v Speaker 2>gave us Brown versus Board of Education. More relevant here

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<v Speaker 2>is that it superseded the dread Scott case and shrind

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<v Speaker 2>in Lord the right if anyone born in the USA,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of race or a snithety, to be a citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>And it has a few exemptions like I think the

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<v Speaker 2>children of foreign diplomats and visiting heads of state are

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<v Speaker 2>not US citizens. So like King Charles couldn't come over

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<v Speaker 2>here have another kid and then have that kid be

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<v Speaker 2>a dual citizen. Trump proposes that he's going to stop

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<v Speaker 2>this immediately on entering office by executive order.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you remove another of the Constitution by executive order? James,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a legal expert by any means.

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<v Speaker 2>No. No, I am a historian of anarchists in Spain.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not the center Mayrea of expertise. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pretty confident, like without going full seth Abramson here, that no,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't. You can't just do that because it certainly

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<v Speaker 2>feels wrong. Yeah, it seems like it doesn't pass the

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<v Speaker 2>smell test.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>If American history would be very different if you could

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<v Speaker 2>change the Constitution by executive order. But this isn't going

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<v Speaker 2>to stop Donald Trump crying. The specific case he has

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<v Speaker 2>a beef with is US versus one kim Ark. It's

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<v Speaker 2>called it's a couple of people who were Chinese nationals

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<v Speaker 2>who had a kid in the United States and a

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court found that their kid would sit in Right,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't need to go into the case. Sure, but

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans have been on this for a long time. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they really began to get concerted momentum behind it

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<v Speaker 2>during the Obama administration. Obviously, before Obama was elected, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump sort of really entered politics with his birth

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<v Speaker 2>Allives right and this idea that Obama was not a

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<v Speaker 2>US citizen and therefore was not eligible for the presidency,

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<v Speaker 2>and that sort of that tendency continued in Republican politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Lindsey Graham, a man who looks like a melting slath,

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<v Speaker 2>attempted to introduce a constitutional amendment during the Obama administration,

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<v Speaker 2>failed to do so. I don't think he actually ever

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<v Speaker 2>introduced it. I think he just sort of shopped it

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<v Speaker 2>around see if he could get support, and then failed.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been a continuing theme since. Actually, Matt Gates,

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<v Speaker 2>along with Gosa Santos and some other representatives, tried to

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<v Speaker 2>institute a House resolution last year ending birthright citizenship. Trump

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<v Speaker 2>has also been cooking up some rather unique legal theories

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<v Speaker 2>about this for a while. In twenty eighteen, he claimed

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<v Speaker 2>that you don't need a constitutional amendment to change the

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<v Speaker 2>Fourteenth Amendment. He also repeatedly claimed that birthright citizenship is

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<v Speaker 2>something that's either rare or in some cases, he claimed

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<v Speaker 2>it's unique to the United States, which is not true.

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<v Speaker 2>There are about thirty countries that offer birth for a citizenship.

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<v Speaker 2>The legal justification that he offers most often comes from

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<v Speaker 2>someone called John Eastman. Do you know who John Eastman is? Garrison,

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<v Speaker 2>I do not. Johnny'sman was the one of the legal

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<v Speaker 2>architects of Trump's plan to overturn the twenty twenty election.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>He has also been indicted in the Georgia case against

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<v Speaker 2>Trump and his co conspirators. Johnny Ssmon also tried to

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<v Speaker 2>do birth a shit about Karmala Harris. Many of you

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<v Speaker 2>will be able to draw the line between Karmala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>and Barack Obama and perhaps the underlying motivation for their

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<v Speaker 2>birth and stuff. But Eastman is contending, I guess that

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<v Speaker 2>the quote subjects to the jurisdiction thereof element of the

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<v Speaker 2>fourteenth Amendment means that somehow people who live in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, work in the United States, have pay tacks

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States are not subject to which juris

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<v Speaker 2>if they're not citizens themselves, which, look, it doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 2>how like I think. The big thing I want you

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<v Speaker 2>guys to take away from this is that everything he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to do is probably illegal, and none of that

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<v Speaker 2>really matters, right because we'll have a court like he's

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<v Speaker 2>he's got a Supreme Court, which has but it's packed

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<v Speaker 2>with Republicans, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And it has constantly affirmed his ability to do crimes

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<v Speaker 3>and get off with basic pheno punk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, like this is a man who tried to

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<v Speaker 2>do a coup and it's standing for election again. Like

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<v Speaker 2>the court system is not going to save us. If

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<v Speaker 2>he has enough time and he can and enough political will,

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<v Speaker 2>he will try and do this. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>not unreasonable to expect that he will attempt to buy

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<v Speaker 2>executive order on the first day of his presidency to

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<v Speaker 2>take birthright citizenship away from the children of undocumented migrants. Garrison,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what won't take rights away from your children?

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<v Speaker 3>I forget what food service box we have and therefore

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<v Speaker 3>cannot make jokes about on air. But it's one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>One of them can, one of them can't, And you

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<v Speaker 3>have to know which one. What everyone advertises is the

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<v Speaker 3>good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, always it'll be when they speak really fast at

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<v Speaker 2>the end, just just slow that down. You hear them

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<v Speaker 2>talking about your children, We're back. We hope you enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>those outports. The second thing Donald Trump is big mad

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<v Speaker 2>about is something called birth tourism. What that he calls

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<v Speaker 2>birth tourism.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, it's okay, I think I see where this is going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's when you take a holiday to the the womb,

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<v Speaker 2>you go into like a pod and it's very I thought.

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<v Speaker 3>It's where you take a holiday summer to pop out

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<v Speaker 3>of kin and they get automatic citizenship.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it actually is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is a great plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, you go on holiday to like an all

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<v Speaker 2>inclusive resort and then you don't have to pay for

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<v Speaker 2>your birth expenses because they're included when you go to

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<v Speaker 2>your all inclusive resort. It's a great deal for everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't die. I didn't think of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, many few people have. But now now the words

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<v Speaker 2>out and it might close that loophole. What I think

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting about his quote unquote birth tourism claims, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like obviously this again has been a right wing

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<v Speaker 2>talking point for a long time. Right. It's that in

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<v Speaker 2>this particular section of the Agenda forty seven website, he

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<v Speaker 2>includes links to provide evidence for some of his claims,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a bold move for Donald Trump, a man

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<v Speaker 2>who excus evidence. But what he links to is the

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<v Speaker 2>Center for Immigration Studies, Right, the CIS. The CIS is

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<v Speaker 2>an extremely right wing thing tank. It's founded by someone

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<v Speaker 2>called John Tantun and it's listed by the SBLC as

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<v Speaker 2>a hate group. The reason it's listed by the SBLC

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<v Speaker 2>as a hate group is because it pretty consistently publishes

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<v Speaker 2>the work of someone called Jason rich Wine, who is

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<v Speaker 2>an unreconstructed race science guy, right, like a modern day phrenologist,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will. This is a man who is so

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<v Speaker 2>racist that he was forced to resign from the Heritage Foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh wow, yeah, yeah, which I didn't know was possible. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>it was quite.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know they had like a bar for that. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>No, two racists for the Heritage Foundation. Is is quite racist?

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<v Speaker 3>Gravestone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they probably will after CIS when there's a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a blow up about this is during the first

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<v Speaker 2>round presidency, and CIS claimed they it wouldn't be unusual

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<v Speaker 2>to occasionally include a racist or an anti semite given

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<v Speaker 2>the volume of content they put out. So this led

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<v Speaker 2>to the Southern Poverty Law Center conducting an analysis of

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<v Speaker 2>their weekly newsletter. I'm going to read you a summary

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<v Speaker 2>of that analysis now. Southern Poverty Law Center and a

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<v Speaker 2>Center for New Community examined approximately four hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>of CIS's weekly emails dating back almost ten years and

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<v Speaker 2>found that CIS circulated over one thousand, seven hundred articles

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<v Speaker 2>from vdare dot com. Garrison's face just looks like they've

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<v Speaker 2>stepped in something horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have this podcast recording.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's right, an average of three VEDA articles

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<v Speaker 2>every week. Huh Yeah, So that that's where Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is getting the bulk of his statistics and information, or

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<v Speaker 2>at least Donald Trump isn't writing this stuff, right. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he has the attention span. But whoever is

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<v Speaker 2>writing his immigration policy, it's sourcing from vdare.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we want to explain what the yeah is? Go off?

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<v Speaker 2>Garrison? Let us know.

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<v Speaker 3>So VEDE is like this white nationalist like anti immigration,

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<v Speaker 3>not like a lobbying group, but like I kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>They produce a whole bunch of rhetoric and talking points

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<v Speaker 3>about all of the big risks of immigration. It gets

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<v Speaker 3>sent stuff to like Fox News. Trump's used this stuff before.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not it's not great. They receive like dark money

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<v Speaker 3>from conservative like funding groups like Donors Trust. It's it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's ways to to it's finding a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>silly ways to try to justify their types of racism,

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<v Speaker 3>and they are they are still a problem. They were

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<v Speaker 3>founded nearly twenty five years ago and they're still they're

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<v Speaker 3>still going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean they've they've compared the anti

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<v Speaker 2>white rhetoric to the Rwandan genocide before and just they

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<v Speaker 2>What I think is important to hear about v DAY

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<v Speaker 2>is that they exist to take straight up hate rhetoric

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<v Speaker 2>and insert it to mainstream politics.

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<v Speaker 3>And yes, they take stuff from like actual, like like

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<v Speaker 3>very like recognized like white nationalist groups and and turn

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<v Speaker 3>it into rhetoric that is acceptable on Fox News. That

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<v Speaker 3>is their entire goal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and cis one might argue, exists to take that

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<v Speaker 2>VDA stuff and dressed it up as research article, statistics

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<v Speaker 2>information that might inform policy. There's a bunch of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>in his sort of Abolished Birthright Citizenship that I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think we need to get into. He talks a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about birth hotels. He links to a National Affairs op

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<v Speaker 2>ed from Peter Shuck and Rogers Smith. These are the

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<v Speaker 2>people who have really been like the originators of the

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<v Speaker 2>abolished birthright citizenship movement. They wrote a book about it,

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<v Speaker 2>I think in nineteen eighty five. It's also worth noting

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<v Speaker 2>just so, like Trump repeatedly claims in his little videos

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<v Speaker 2>that children can then make their parents citizens as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as they become citizens. Like so, if someone was undocumented,

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<v Speaker 2>right and their child became a citizen and a child,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, five year old child con sponsored them for citizenship,

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<v Speaker 2>and a way they are now the whole family is

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<v Speaker 2>American citizens. Right. And then the logic of this website

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<v Speaker 2>goes that like Biden imports these people, they all become citizens,

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<v Speaker 2>they all vote for the Democrats, right, And this is

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the great replacement theory with a couple more steps.

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<v Speaker 2>It's worth noting that children have to be twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>to sponsor a parent, and if that parent has entered

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<v Speaker 2>the country in an undocumented way, then the parent has

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<v Speaker 2>to leave for a decade and then come back to apply.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not possible to simply citizenize your parents as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as you become a citizen by birth right citizenship. It

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<v Speaker 2>would be an extremely long game to try and have

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<v Speaker 2>a kid in order to gain your own citizenship. I've

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<v Speaker 2>met thousands of migrants who have entered between ports of entry, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never met anyone who have articulated this this sort

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<v Speaker 2>of goal, this route to citizenship. He then goes on

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<v Speaker 2>he has this like it's literally a bullet pointed list

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<v Speaker 2>of border policies. Right. These include quote unquote extreme vetting

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<v Speaker 2>at a quote national vetting center. That's a little worrying

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<v Speaker 2>that the National Vetting Center.

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<v Speaker 3>Is going to be doing this vetting. What are they

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<v Speaker 3>vetting for? Who are they vetting?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well the migrants. Who's going to be doing the

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<v Speaker 2>vetting probably the people who forced women to have abortions

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<v Speaker 2>in their custody and lost thousands of children and have

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<v Speaker 2>been able to relocate their families, So that'll be great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not also clear what they're vetting for. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>say that specifically. He does say that he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>quote unleash interior immigration enforcement, which anyone who's lived in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States in the last decade may have noticed.

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<v Speaker 2>So we in fact have interior immigration Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that has been unleashed. But yeah, it's kind of me

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<v Speaker 2>as whole Twitter thing, But yeah, I think I guess

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<v Speaker 2>this is part of his massive deportation thing, right, his

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<v Speaker 2>goal to deport undocumented people. He does not at any

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<v Speaker 2>point differentiate between undocumented people in the asylum seecrets. He

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<v Speaker 2>seems to see them as one of the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're all dangerous illegals or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah. And anyone crossing the border for any reason

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<v Speaker 2>other than with visa in hand to him falls into this,

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<v Speaker 2>like should be deported.

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<v Speaker 3>If you are a certain skin tone? Yes, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>visa plus the skin tone is what makes it okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yeah. I think it's probably fair. And what

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<v Speaker 2>else has he got on his lord you list here?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, there's ending federal grants to sanctuary cities. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not quite sure how he thinks that would work or

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<v Speaker 2>what exactly he means by federal grants, Like we're just

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<v Speaker 2>going to stop having highways in California.

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<v Speaker 3>That would.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, let's return. I'm ready. I'll be riding my

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<v Speaker 2>bike everywhere like a king. He also talks about and

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<v Speaker 2>he calls he ending quote catch and release at the border.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not clear what he means by this.

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<v Speaker 3>I've certainly heard this term a lot the past year.

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<v Speaker 3>Catch and release.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's like catch and release was used to

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<v Speaker 2>refer sometimes to Title forty two, a policy that Trump

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<v Speaker 2>put in place whereby migrants would be caught and immediately

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<v Speaker 2>turned back into Mexico and released there, and they generally

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<v Speaker 2>try and cross again. And we've covered this in an

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<v Speaker 2>entire series I made on title forty two.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Another of his uh, his weird Little bugbears is ending

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<v Speaker 2>the visa lottery. Are you familiar with the visa lottery? Garrison? Roughly,

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<v Speaker 2>but not super Okay, So the visa lottery is more

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<v Speaker 2>properly called something called the Diversity Visa Program. It allows

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<v Speaker 2>for up to fifty five thousand immigrant visas a year

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<v Speaker 2>for individuals from countries that are underrepresented in the US

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<v Speaker 2>immigration system. So it's literally there to increase diversity, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's d I. It's d I. He must

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<v Speaker 2>have recorded this before di I was a big deal

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<v Speaker 2>because he doesn't have that shame.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure how much equity there is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be in the lottery program.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you're about to find out, Garrison. Okay. Trump

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<v Speaker 2>has repeatedly suggested that he believes that this diversity visa

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<v Speaker 2>program consists of non US countries raffling off green cards

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<v Speaker 2>like you pay and then they draw your number. That

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<v Speaker 2>that's not how it works. It's the United States who

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<v Speaker 2>decides who gets them. It's a computer program that selects

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<v Speaker 2>about fifty thousand applicants from about fifteen million. I have

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<v Speaker 2>met probably hundreds of people who have applied for diversity viewers.

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<v Speaker 2>I meet them all the time every time I'm traveling

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<v Speaker 2>for work, Myanmar, Thailand, Iraq, Kurdis, Dan and Syria, like,

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<v Speaker 2>You'll meet people from all of these places who have

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<v Speaker 2>tried to apply for the system. Most of them end

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<v Speaker 2>up not getting it because the odds are very slim.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>When they do get it, they then have to go

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<v Speaker 2>through a series of vetting processes and then they have

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<v Speaker 2>to make an appointment at a consulate. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>last parts of the process making appoints at a consulate

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<v Speaker 2>to get an interview. Right. What the Trump administration did

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<v Speaker 2>last time was stop people from getting appointments at consulates,

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<v Speaker 2>citing COVID right that they couldn't with the COVID restriction

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<v Speaker 2>to get appointment. That meant that de facto, because you

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<v Speaker 2>only have seven months once you get awarded the visa

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<v Speaker 2>to like fulfill the process and get the paper visa

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<v Speaker 2>and begin your travel, those people weren't able to get it,

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<v Speaker 2>and they had to go back to the start right,

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<v Speaker 2>which is crushing, like, I know how much of their

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<v Speaker 2>money and hope people allocate to these programs and to

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<v Speaker 2>be told like, yeah, you got it. It's incredibly rare,

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<v Speaker 2>and then to be like, oh, actually you can't make

0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:30.639
<v Speaker 2>the appointment. Screw you. It's crushing. Now. The Biden administration,

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<v Speaker 2>in all fairness, has restored their right to book an interview,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's moved to the bottom of the priority list,

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<v Speaker 2>so in practice it's still happening that people can be

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<v Speaker 2>they can quote unquote win the green card lottery and

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<v Speaker 2>still not get a green card. It's a complete mess,

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<v Speaker 2>and transporposal lists to entirely do away with it. This

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<v Speaker 2>would require legislation that doesn't matter. He also has a

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<v Speaker 2>little there's like a one sentence where he claims that

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<v Speaker 2>Biden's border policies are killing migrants, and weirdly, he links

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<v Speaker 2>to an NPR article about it. He's not wrong, like

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<v Speaker 2>he's absolutely not wrong, Like uh.

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<v Speaker 3>But but but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The butt is that Donald Trump would kill a lot more.

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<v Speaker 3>Great I mean yeah, I mean is are those also

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<v Speaker 3>are those like referring specificly to Biden stuff or like

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<v Speaker 3>the stuff that like like that like Governor Abbott's doing

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<v Speaker 3>like what.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the increase in border crossings and bordered deaths from

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty to present. Much of that is due to

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's Title forty two policy that Biden wholeheartedly supported defended

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<v Speaker 2>in court. Right, because when people were caught and then

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<v Speaker 2>released back across the border, they often they were offered

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<v Speaker 2>unlimited crossings by the people who were like helping them cross,

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<v Speaker 2>or they the facto, had unlimited chances to cross because

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<v Speaker 2>they're just being dropped back in Mexico. Right, Yeah, They're

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<v Speaker 2>often they're dropped without any resources in places where they

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<v Speaker 2>have no communities, so they try and cross again, and

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<v Speaker 2>they end up going to more and more remote places

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't want to get caught, right, or so

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<v Speaker 2>they end up crossing in the places where there are

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<v Speaker 2>gaps in the wall. Those tend to be very remote,

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<v Speaker 2>and those tend to be the places where people die.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can map the deaths and you can you

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<v Speaker 2>can see this in real time happen.

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<v Speaker 3>And Trump's pretending to find this to be a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, Trump is very sad about this. He's big sad.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's gonna he's gonna make a kind of gender

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<v Speaker 2>immigration system. It's Garrison. Do you know, do you know

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<v Speaker 2>what else it is kinder and gentler than the immigration system.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I guess the ads. I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if ads might kill less people, but it's really hard

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<v Speaker 3>to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I think they probably would. I think we

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<v Speaker 2>can we can confidently.

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<v Speaker 3>Say now that cigarette ads are are What.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's a banana advert, because then you can get

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<v Speaker 2>into the whole sort of you know, like.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, well here, let's play these ads.

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<v Speaker 2>We're back. Enjoy your fruit.

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<v Speaker 3>I love ethical fruit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then nothing, grow your own fruit. That's the

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:15.159
<v Speaker 2>message of this podcast. And then if we didn't have

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:17.199
<v Speaker 2>if we did grow our own fruit, we wouldn't have destabilized

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.280
<v Speaker 2>many of the countries that these migrants are coming from.

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<v Speaker 3>Beautiful Georgia, peaches.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we destabilized Georgia. Boy can dream. So there's

0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 2>a couple of other bugbears, little sort of things that

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Trump has. One of them is benefits for migrants. Now,

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 2>this is something that's been hopping around the right wing

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<v Speaker 2>for a while. It's really been more sort of one

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 2>of their talking points in the last few months. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>like since right wing stream has certainly started coming to

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 2>places where I volunteered on the border. I've heard them

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 2>talking about it. I tried not to hear them talking,

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<v Speaker 2>so they might have been talking about it for and

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<v Speaker 2>I was just not paying attention. Just be super clear

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.400
<v Speaker 2>and document. People are not eligible for most benefits. Even

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<v Speaker 2>people with legal status have a range of hurdles, including.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if you have even if you have a green

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:08.680
<v Speaker 3>curd there's a lot of stuff you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, and there are also public charge rules, which

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:16.520
<v Speaker 2>in some cases some forms of assistance might be a

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 2>hurdle if you are looking to change your immigration status,

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:21.560
<v Speaker 2>so even if you had accepted them, that that might

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:25.000
<v Speaker 2>stop you moving along the immigration pathway. That's only for

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 2>things like SSI and TAN. But I don't think we

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<v Speaker 2>need to go into the nitty gritty of it. He

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.440
<v Speaker 2>claims that people are coming here to live off benefits.

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 2>He calls quote welfare and a gigantic magnet drawing people

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 2>from all over the world. They want to come to

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:44.159
<v Speaker 2>the United States. They want to feast off the sweat

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:48.439
<v Speaker 2>and savings of the American taxpayer. Feasting off sweat is

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:58.159
<v Speaker 2>not a beautiful image, but well no, it's He continues

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 2>to claim that these migrants also take American jobs. Right,

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 2>so that once climbing unemployment benefits and taking American jobs.

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:07.479
<v Speaker 2>And again, like I don't think Donald Trump stuff has

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:11.719
<v Speaker 2>to line up for it to be dangerous, just to

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:16.239
<v Speaker 2>like inject a moment of like factual analysis. Again, you

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 2>have to wait at least five months after applying for

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 2>work permit. When you ripe her as a refugee to

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 2>get a work permit, you may not apply straight away.

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Many people wait for a year or more without the

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:31.199
<v Speaker 2>right to work. Undocumented workers working under the table are

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 2>hugely underpaid, very frequently abused, and the reason again where

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:37.880
<v Speaker 2>your fruit is cheap. He says in his Day one

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 2>plan that he's going to stop migrant workers taking American

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 2>jobs by having like American hiring provisions for all federal agencies.

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 2>Federal agencies are not hiring undocumented people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's simply not happening.

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 2>That is just that is Like believe me, I am

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 2>a person who has been a migrant to this country.

0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 2>The amount of bullshit you have to go to to

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 2>even do a government job like teaching is a large

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 2>amount of bullshit. And they absolutely are not hiring undocumented people.

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 2>I bring this garrison to the final pillar of the

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Trump immigration policy and f this one, Garrison, I want

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:18.119
<v Speaker 2>you to take a moment to listen to this clip

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 2>of Donald Trump explaining the well researched information that he

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 2>uses to develop his immigration policy.

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 4>I was thrilled to host a screening at Bedminster of

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<v Speaker 4>the important new film Sound of Freedom, about the power

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 4>of faith in overcoming evil, and in particular the evil

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 4>of child trafficking. Big problem. We had it down to

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 4>the lowest number in many years just four years ago,

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 4>and now it's gone through the roof, even though the

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 4>fake news media has tried to ignore it. Sound of

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Freedom has been a national sensation and a colossal success

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:56.360
<v Speaker 4>at the box office, really big numbers. Everyone should see it.

0:27:56.640 --> 0:28:00.719
<v Speaker 4>This is a very important film and very important movie,

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 4>and it's a very important documentary all wrapped up in one.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, that's crazy.

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah film.

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like you're sliding another I there in between

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 3>L and M.

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:26.359
<v Speaker 2>I've heard spoken around the world, and I've never heard

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 2>that pronounced that way.

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 3>Farious choice.

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just a fascinating man.

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, besides the point, like most of those

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 3>had a Freedom tickets were but by right wing billionaires

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 3>and were completely empty seats.

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 2>He goes on to detail the exact number of dollars

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 2>it took in the opening week, to talk about how

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 2>it's such a success. Yes, decent, A decent amount of

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>his entire child drafting policy. Is him describing the film Freedom.

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 2>It's incredible, like that was that was a gift that

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I did not if you read the transcript, do you

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 2>miss out on some of these absolute easter eggs that

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump leaves.

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 3>I think I I think I saw a clip of

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 3>him at a rally recently where he was talking about

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 3>Center Freedom and he also said it like that. No,

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 3>it was I know what it was. It was talking

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 3>about David Lynch. When there was that misquote about about

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Lynch saying like like Trump seems like like like an

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 3>energetic guy or something, and he's like philim filim director,

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 3>David Lynch endorsed me for president. It's like, Okay, that's

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 3>not whatever.

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Then he's uh, yeah, so he's.

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 3>He's been saying this way for like almost ten years

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 3>at least, because that's insane.

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Actually yeah, like.

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 3>Because because that yeah, because that clip was from like

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 3>the twenty fifteen campaign rallies.

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's so it's not Yeah, Wow, the power of

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 2>simility an incredible thing. Uh. If any anyone else, anyone

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 2>we could do like the NPR thing, if you if

0:29:58.320 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>they say film where you come from.

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't think anyone else's I really don't think so.

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, no, there's not a Yeah, he just comes

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 2>up with his stuff from a blank slate.

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Well that's cool.

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyone else is cool.

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 3>It's uh, this is all of this video is called

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:20.600
<v Speaker 3>like Trump calls for a death penalty and we're laughing

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 3>and we're laughing about pronunciation.

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, unfortunately, Garrison, it's time to stop laughing because yes,

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump, I'm going to outline a death penalty thing. Quote.

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 2>I will urge Congress to ensure that anyone caught trafficking

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 2>children across our border receives the death penalty immediately. And

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>that includes also for women, because women, as you know,

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 2>are number one in trafficking children are actually number two.

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 2>That's the sentence, which you could pick apart for a

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 2>long time.

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:50.959
<v Speaker 3>What does he mean by trafficking.

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 2>That is extremely unclear. He seems to mean the arrival

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 2>of people in the United States.

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Right, Like that's kind of what it sounds like. Yeah,

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 3>like it sounds like it just means crossing the border.

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 6>Yes, yeah, he well because he he also says, quote,

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 6>I will use Title forty two to end the child

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 6>trafficking crisis by returning all traffic children to their families

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 6>in their home countries and without delay.

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I made an entire fucking series on Title forty two.

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I recorded it in a week, and then I wrote

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 2>it in a week, and then we edited it, and

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 2>it has destroyed me and I have never recovered. Title

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 2>forty two does absolutely nothing about child trafficking. Title forty

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 2>two returns all migrants or anyone crossing the border between

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 2>ports of entry to Mexico, which suggests that he sees

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 2>all these people as trafficked, right.

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 2>It also absolutely does not reunite children with their families.

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 2>This is the administration that separated families at the border

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 2>and has in some cases been unable to find the

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 2>parents of the children it's separated. Friends of mine have

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 2>worked for a very long time, very hard, absolutely not

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 2>for the tra administration trying to find those people's families.

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 2>But it's really interesting that he is talking about Title

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 2>forty two again. Title forty two, if you're not familiar

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 2>as a public health law, right, it's to stop the

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 2>introduction of infectious disease into the United States. It's a

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 2>very old law that was initially designed around tuberculosis. So,

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 2>and we know that Trump administration planned to use Title

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 2>forty two before coronavirus was a Coronavirus is already a

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 2>thing before COVID nineteen with the thing, right, So, he's

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 2>just being completely open about his idea to manipulate public

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 2>health law in a way that allows him to do

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 2>things immigration law would not allow him to do. Right.

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 2>He also finishes up, I guess by making his claim

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 2>once again. He goes back to the well that is

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 2>the fucking border war. Right. I'm just going to quote here.

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 2>We created the most secure border in US history, dealing

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 2>a major blow to the cartels in traffickers. We built

0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of miles a wall, ran innovated hundreds of miles

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 2>of war. We built hundreds of miles of war. We

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 2>never had anything like it. And then I got Mexico

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 2>free of charge to give us twenty eight thousand soldiers

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 2>to protect us from people coming into our country illegally.

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 2>It's not going to surprise anyone that this is bullshit.

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.479
<v Speaker 2>Trump first made this hundreds of miles of war claim

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 2>In a debate with Biden, I filed a foyer for

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 2>a new war building that night. The best estimate I

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 2>can come up with, based on the documents I got

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 2>from Foyer and from other people's foyers, is that they

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 2>built about eighty five miles of new war. They did

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 2>replace several hundred miles of war, and in some cases

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 2>that went from a pretty insignificant barrier to a pretty

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 2>large one. The twenty eight thousand soldier thing this will

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 2>shock you was also not true. There was an agreement

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 2>at twenty nineteen with Mexico that didn't list a specific

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 2>number of troops, but it did say that most of

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 2>them will be in the southern half of the country

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 2>and Mexico's border with Guatemala. He then goes on just

0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 2>a complete tangent where he says, I will rage war

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 2>on the cartels, just as I destroyed the ISIS Caliphate.

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent gone, one hundred percent destroyed.

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, that's why that attack in Russia was Yeah.

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, yeah, it's gone. Yeah. Isis

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 2>car bombed the street that I stayed on a couple

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 2>of weeks after I left in October, Like.

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:20.240
<v Speaker 3>This is why the isis press people are like begging

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:24.399
<v Speaker 3>people to like to believe that isis is like still

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:27.399
<v Speaker 3>a thing. They're like, no, please, We're still real. Yeah,

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 3>we're still around.

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:30.399
<v Speaker 2>Please, I'm a real boy.

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah exactly, Yeah.

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, the Pinocchio ices. That'll be a highly entertaining film. Look,

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 2>I want to finish up by saying here that, like,

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 2>as we saw in Donald Trump's first term, his malice

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 2>is really only matched by his incompetence, and his incompetence

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 2>at the border is much less important. I guess he's

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 2>he's been able to be more competent at the border

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.839
<v Speaker 2>than he has been anywhere else in enacting his policies.

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>He managed to do plenty of things in his first

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 2>term that are un constitutional because the system only really

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 2>works when the people playing the game agree that the

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 2>rules of the game are more important than the outcome.

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 2>And that's not the case with Donald Trump. Right. We

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>know that the fact that he dedicated so much of

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 2>his agenda forty seven pages to migration tells us that

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:17.959
<v Speaker 2>peddling great replacement theories is going to be a major

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 2>part of his campaign and a major part of his

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 2>second term. If he gets one. The sources that he

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 2>links to here tell us that he's as addicted to

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 2>right wing rage bait as he ever was, and that

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 2>he's still surrounded by cranks and crackpots with fringe on

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 2>the flag level conspiracy theories. None of this stuff, none

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 2>of my suggestions that what he's saying is false or

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:42.439
<v Speaker 2>illegal or impossible under the constitution mean that it's not dangerous. Right.

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 2>I would have told you in twenty sixteen that it

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:47.799
<v Speaker 2>was illegal to bounce people back to Mexico without hearing

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 2>their asylum claims, because it is. But we had it

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 2>under a democratic president for three years. We had it

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 2>under Trump for a year. Right, it still happened. He

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 2>succeeded in moving the border and migration debate massively to

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 2>the right, and we have Biden advocating for things that

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 2>would not have flown like that. Clinton would have been

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 2>a ghast at right, and just by Trump making this

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 2>an issue, even if he doesn't get elected in November,

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.399
<v Speaker 2>Biden's going to try and fight him on this by

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 2>claiming that he too is tough on the border, He

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 2>too is tough on these fictional things like the taking

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 2>of American jobs or migrants claiming public benefits or birthright

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 2>citizenship right that Biden has completely failed to plow his

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 2>own path on this, and he said he's entirely reactive

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 2>to Trump. So I think I guess the big take

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 2>home here is that whatever happens in November, things that

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.879
<v Speaker 2>the border are going to be terrible, just like they're

0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 2>terrible now.

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:50.839
<v Speaker 3>And and you can't just rely on politicians to do

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 3>things at the border, like there's actually like you can't

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 3>just push it away, be like, oh, now that so

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 3>and so's in charge, now I don't have to think

0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:57.839
<v Speaker 3>about it, be.

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Like, well, that's the whole fucking problem, right. The reason

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 2>that we are so broke, the reason that I personally

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 2>am so broken and my truck is falling apart, is

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 2>that that is what people are doing. At least with Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>We got money in twenty eighteen when he held the

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<v Speaker 2>Mi caravan at the border in Tijuana. My friends and

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<v Speaker 2>I were there doing mutual aid, and we did just

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<v Speaker 2>what we're doing now in a cumba right. We fed people,

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<v Speaker 2>we bought them blankets, we took care of them, and

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<v Speaker 2>we stop them from dying. But at least libs sent

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<v Speaker 2>us money, like we had tons of money. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>spending one thousand dollars on soft toys in the Costco

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<v Speaker 2>in Tijuana. That doesn't happen anymore because people think that

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<v Speaker 2>they voted for the kind, gentle, nice guy. And I guess, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want people to look at this with the understanding

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<v Speaker 2>that whatever happens at the ballot box, like you need

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<v Speaker 2>to help with the boarder because neither of these politicians

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<v Speaker 2>are going to That's my my speech. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>listening to our podcast. Anything else, Garrison.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, but we we will be back tomorrow with

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<v Speaker 3>more exciting, exciting news about Yeah, what are we sell

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<v Speaker 3>an agenda either, Actually I don't know because we have

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<v Speaker 3>not planned it out that far ahead. Throughout the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the week, we'll be talking about Trump's plans for

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<v Speaker 3>handling the gender question, trump declaring war on cartels, and

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<v Speaker 3>his plans to fix the pharmaceutical industry. So all.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait.

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