1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: The single best idea, A quick single best idea. On 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: FED day, nobody really worried about a quarter point rate cut. 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 2: Lots of talk on the balance sheet. Thank you Ira 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 2: Jersey of Bloomberg Intelligence for being in studio today to 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 2: really dive into all the nuances. Full disclosure. There's a 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: point where my brain just turns off. It switches off 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: when you're talking. So I was pretty good at libor 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: and libra ois, but the new stuff, I just I'm 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: trying to keep up Ira Jersey, making us smarter today 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: along with many others, looking at the balance sheet runoff 12 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: of the Federal Reserve, Alicia Levine doesn't care. She's looking 13 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: at the equity markets at BNY Wealth. I said to her, 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: how far out can you look? 15 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: I would say, is a market matter, I'd say, I say, 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: you need to have visibility into the next eighteen to 17 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: twenty four months here, right, It can't be five years. Right. 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: If it's five years, you're going to wind up with 19 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: a market that's going to reset at the top here. 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: So I think it has to be eighteen to twenty 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: four months. This is how we invest our client capital. 22 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: We do twelve to eighteen months forward. That's probably the 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: right time horizon. That's why we use forward earnings on 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: the S and B, not the trailing. I think the 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: trailing is irrelevant. It's the forward. It's always looking forward. 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: So if you have a monetization of the cap X 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: within the next eighteen months or so, then the market's fine. 28 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: Alicia Levi in there trying to figure out the glide 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: pass of the joy and angst of a I interesting 30 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: to see. Look for the earnings coverage in the afternoon. 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: Carol Master and Tim Stamanik leading the way on that. Also, 32 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: we talked to John Maray. He's from Texas. John Maurray's 33 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: with NFJ with a really different view. He's bull China. 34 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: John maurri on baba. 35 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: Okay, so Ali baba. First thing I'll says, they have 36 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: made a commitment to do over fifty two billion in 37 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: cloud infrastructure over the next three years. That's an enormous 38 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 3: commitment to AI. You're trading at some of the lowest 39 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 3: valuations on EV to EBITDA basis over the last decade. 40 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: We have a long way to go. They've been increasing 41 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: their dividend and they now pay a dividend. Ali Baba 42 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 3: went from a growth stock to a value stock. So 43 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: you've got dividing growth, You've got tons of cash in 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: the balance sheet, big investments in AI. I think the 45 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: future is really bright for these guys. This is a 46 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 3: combination of Amazon in video. You have all these components 47 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: tied together within the Baba infrastructure, cloud infrastructure, chips models. 48 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: John Maury there on Ali Baba again. It's a podcast. 49 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: We're out at Apple, out of Spotify on YouTube podcast 50 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: single best idea. 51 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: I knew that about people were into the danger