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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where, like Jadeen Daniels, we've shown

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Speaker 1: up to OTA's extra thick.

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Speaker 2: I'm here in.

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Speaker 1: The Chris Westling podcast studio. My name is Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: I'm with Patrick Clayvaugh. What's happening.

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Speaker 3: It's always the off season physique updates. That's when you

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Speaker 3: know that it is the off season and you're doing

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Speaker 3: review and like going back and forth and like trying

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Speaker 3: to change the opacity on one picture to be like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it does look a little the frame is more solid now.

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Speaker 1: It is tricky because yeah, you could just be wearing

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Speaker 1: a baggy shirt and it could it could make you

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Speaker 1: look thinner or bigger, like the Luka Doncic shot that

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Speaker 1: I think they had of him in Europe. But in

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Speaker 1: this case, the Jaden Daniels being thicker was supported by

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Speaker 1: the team website. If you're if you're one of the

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Speaker 1: many subscribers on YouTube, you'll see the tweet that went

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Speaker 1: up and the team is even leaning into it and

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Speaker 1: doing like a spot in the difference memes showing some

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Speaker 1: SpongeBob here with the big arms anchor arms. Jayden Daniels

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Speaker 1: does look it looks a little more small.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great for the people who are concerned about

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Speaker 3: his frame, because I guess I think it's pseudoscience that

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Speaker 3: to say the frame correlates to injury concerns. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think the injury right in our league is one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: And you have guys like Carson Wentz or Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 3: who were built like like not Calvin Johnson Megatron, but

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Speaker 3: like the cybernetic Megatron, and they still deal with him

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Speaker 3: like it's all luck.

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Speaker 1: That is absolutely true. And yet he was just one

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Speaker 1: of the slighter quarterbacks ever. Not that I thought it

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Speaker 1: was gonna impact his career necessarily, but it was striking

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Speaker 1: and even with the bigger arms, he still is going

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Speaker 1: to be slighter now.

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Speaker 2: Weight it do you know it does matter?

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Speaker 1: I know it's an offseason trope, but like Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: I think he's a reliable source. And he said losing

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Speaker 1: that weight last year, going into last year after in

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Speaker 1: his mind mistakingly bulking up the year before and thinking

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Speaker 1: it affected his speed, h he thought dropping the weight

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Speaker 1: would help it, and you could see it. He really

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Speaker 1: was a quicker player last year.

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Speaker 2: I think it helped him a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you should play at the weight that you play

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Speaker 3: at the weight that you've played your best at. And

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Speaker 3: we're talking about two Heisman Trophy winners here. You know

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Speaker 3: you're obviously gonna get more weight as you get older.

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Speaker 3: But I think Jayden Daniels was probably probably right around

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Speaker 3: where he needed to be last year. He's going to

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Speaker 3: get some but that's not let's not fair. Have this

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Speaker 3: guy turned into John Cena or anything.

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Speaker 1: Or even Patrick Laybon, who you know is showing up

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Speaker 1: to the to the studio extra thick as well. I

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Speaker 1: gotta say ota season, I feel a little more alive.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it says about me that you're

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Speaker 1: in this getting the practice reports and making this show

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Speaker 1: daily where we're now kind of like updating the news.

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Speaker 1: It is a reminder Patrick, you know you gotta love ball.

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Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta love the game, and we're not

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Speaker 1: going on the field.

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Speaker 2: This is our game.

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Speaker 1: Do you still have that love of the love of

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Speaker 1: the game, love of the podcasting, love of the broadcasting

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Speaker 1: in you?

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Speaker 3: Yes? If my Pro Football Reference Internet history would be

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Speaker 3: embarrassing to anybody that's that these are these are like

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Speaker 3: on off days, just general thoughts. Ever, something comes in

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Speaker 3: I'm looking to make a case and justify. So we're

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Speaker 3: in it. We're in it.

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Speaker 1: So I think it goes back to how I came up,

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Speaker 1: which was just always reading all the coverage. I've really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed that this week because there's actually been something to

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Speaker 1: world reading everything. And so we got a bunch of

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Speaker 1: just little news items that we'll get you updated with.

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Speaker 1: And then we'll do a little segment too, talking about

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Speaker 1: some veterans who suffered some collateral damage during the draft,

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Speaker 1: we'll start with something that actually isn't like a hard

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Speaker 1: news item today necessarily, but we're taping this in the

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Speaker 1: final days before you know the weekend. It'll be June

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Speaker 1: and on June four. Why is June first an important

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Speaker 1: date on the calendar in the NFL, Patrick.

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Speaker 3: Well, the in terms of people's years tolling, sure, right,

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Speaker 3: June first is the year essentially, like it's not the

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Speaker 3: that that June first deadline it means something contractual, like.

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Speaker 1: You can start pushing some money into future years starting

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Speaker 2: So a player like a Jalen Ramsey, who is in a.

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Speaker 1: Sort of ridiculous situation now, has been literally waiting till

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Speaker 1: and I have a feeling it won't take long after

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Speaker 1: June first. But yes, there can be these cuts that

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Speaker 1: are mark June first cuts, but different transactions can happen.

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Speaker 1: You can sign veterans and that'll count to a different equation,

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Speaker 1: so we might see some veterans up and everything. And

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey was on Twitter saying, you know, he was

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Speaker 1: grateful for each and every chapter so far, and it

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Speaker 1: was a soft way of saying goodbye to the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: And I have three names, three teams for you that

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Speaker 1: could potentially get Jalen Ramsey that have been mentioned the most.

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Speaker 1: The Rams are one of them. Okay, Sean McVay has

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Speaker 1: been on the record. Certainly they could use a cornerback.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys are another. There's been just kind of like

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Speaker 1: people in Miami that they were interested in him at

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Speaker 1: you think that they might have.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys could have drafted him right with Zeke that

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Speaker 1: And then Jeremy Fowler of VSPN throughout the Commanders, which

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Speaker 1: But if he's in like a hybrid safety role, I

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Speaker 2: What intrigues you there? The Arizona Cardinals, Oh freaking I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go off the board, Okay, because it's

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Speaker 3: not I think the I think financially they have the

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Speaker 3: do think in terms of adding talent to the roster,

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Speaker 3: you could get Jalen Ramsey and not like a huge

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Speaker 3: cost prohibitive thing that's going to keep you from doing

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Speaker 1: He feels like a guy to put you over the top,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of guy at this point of his career.

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Speaker 1: The fact that the Rams and McVeigh have spoken so

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Speaker 1: think I really think it could happen, you know, in

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Speaker 3: What do you think for the price?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think Jalen Ramsey is going to require

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Speaker 1: much in trade compensation, so like a fifth.

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Speaker 2: Round pick, a fifth round pick, I don't know. What

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Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals could beat that, Okay, I mean

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Speaker 1: that happens with Miami. Right as we were gonna tape

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Speaker 1: our guy, Adam Schefter, not our guy. Frankly, we're rap

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Speaker 1: sheet guys. But yeah, sometimes Schefter has has the news.

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Speaker 1: On a late May he reported that the Dolphins have

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Speaker 1: had trade discussions with the Steelers about their Loan Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl selection last year John U. Smith. I like that

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Speaker 1: Was he was he really the original pick? I feel

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Speaker 3: I mean late season John who was incredible.

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Speaker 1: He was, but he probably replaced some you know, some

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be Smirch's name. I've always been

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Speaker 1: a John HU Smith fan. He is scheduled to earn

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Speaker 1: four point eight million dollars this season, and unbeknownst to anyone,

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Speaker 1: he asked for a raise, and the Dolphins basically said,

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Speaker 1: if you really want a new contract, I think it'd

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Speaker 1: Do you do you like him in Pittsburgh? And does

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Speaker 3: No, I have seen Arthur Smith and John Newsmith previously

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Speaker 3: John Newsmith was intriguing. It was interesting, he was explosive.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: When I think of Johnny Smith in Tennessee, especially, I

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Speaker 1: think of a guy who had so much untapped potential

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Speaker 1: that was just a bear to try to tackle. And

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Speaker 1: he's developed into a very good blocker too. And yet

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Speaker 1: you're right, the actual most exciting version of Johnny Smith

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Speaker 1: was in Mike McDaniel's offense. And you know who might

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Speaker 1: agree with you, who's that Johnny Smith. Smith's preference, per sources,

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Speaker 1: according to the Chefter, is to stay in Miami area.

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Speaker 3: Man would like to be compensated relative to his accomplishments.

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Speaker 1: It's a tricky spot though, because Miami, by letting this

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Speaker 2: And so then it's going to be up to Johnny Smith.

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Speaker 1: Will he accept a little less money to stay in

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Speaker 1: Miami where he wants to And you.

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Speaker 3: Know, well, yeah, I mean hopefully for them, this is

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Speaker 3: a fact finding mission to determine what the actual price

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Speaker 3: and say, well, this is the price. This is how

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Speaker 3: much money we would have allotted for a player worthy

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Speaker 3: of that price. And here we go.

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Speaker 1: Also, I know he's familiar with Arthur Smith, and they'll

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Speaker 1: love doing two tight end sets and they're going to

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Speaker 1: run the ball and all this stuff. But that's a

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Speaker 3: There's always room for john ou Smith and an Arthur

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Speaker 2: That's fair.

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Speaker 1: And Darneau Washington is about as close to a sixth

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Speaker 1: I also was interested to hear Tyreek Hill talking this week.

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Speaker 5: I got approve myself this OTAs trying to camp. I

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Speaker 3: One. Yeah, I think I think it's a perfect thing

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Speaker 2: I believe him.

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Speaker 1: You know who's comfortable in front of a room, whether

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Speaker 1: My take, and it's been building up here, is Brian Schottenheimer.

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Speaker 2: I have a just a feeling that's Brian shot.

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe he's just not an x's and o's.

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Speaker 2: Good at that.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna say he's gonna be Dan Campbell

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Speaker 2: I'm in, I'm in.

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Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta evaluate people. You got to evaluate coaches.

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Speaker 1: And he's like a he's a nepo baby. He's been

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Speaker 3: No, it's wins of theme.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were going to push back on me

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Speaker 3: Absolutely you should. You should hold onto it for dear

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Speaker 3: I many many are saying, Greg, Many are saying that

440
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Speaker 3: that Terry font no has has as a plan and

441
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Speaker 3: is operating it despite two massive appleatross quarterback contracts that

442
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Speaker 3: he's had to deal with during his very show.

443
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Speaker 1: Okay, well he was he signed the Kirk Cousins one.

444
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Speaker 1: Unless you're you're blaming that Arthur Blase.

445
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think big free agent quarterback decisions

446
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 3: are made by the person who signs the check.

447
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Speaker 1: That's my controversial Well, he saved it a little bit

448
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: with Packs. When I saw that little deal, I was like, Oh,

449
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 1: that's weird. No one is gonna note that. But if

450
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Speaker 1: he actually ends up starting for them for the next

451
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Speaker 1: two years, that's That's the exact thing that great organizations do.

452
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Speaker 2: They develop a guy and then they kind of recognize

453
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Speaker 2: that they get a year ahead. And that's interesting.

454
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Speaker 1: The Eagles are a great organization, but one of their

455
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Speaker 1: moves that did not work out last year was Bryce huff.

456
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Speaker 1: He is not at OTA's. That might be an indication

457
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Speaker 1: that he could be a June first cut or trade

458
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: or not. But it reminds it's a little similar to

459
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Speaker 1: James Bradbury. Last year was like staying away as they

460
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Speaker 1: were like trying to figure out a potential future for

461
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Speaker 1: James Bradbury. So I just thought that was interesting. Then

462
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Speaker 1: a couple other nuggets. The Packers have offered Dayer Alexander

463
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Speaker 1: a restructured deal. According to Matt Schneiderman of The Athletic,

464
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Speaker 1: it's unclear if he'll accept it. He hasn't yet, but

465
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Speaker 1: his a source told the Athletic. He is planning to

466
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Speaker 1: come to mandatory mini camp. So even though he's not

467
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Speaker 1: there now, he actually has been there I think a

468
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Speaker 1: little bit. And that's a sign that something's going to

469
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Speaker 1: get worked out. I think here in the long run,

470
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Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is recovering from a foot injury. Man, he

471
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Speaker 1: hate to see Kyle Pitts hurt this time of year. Already.

472
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Speaker 1: It was mostly Spencer Rattler at OTAs as a starter

473
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Speaker 1: that the Saints media watched on Thursday. Apparently the both

474
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks played very well, Tyler Shuck.

475
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Speaker 3: Reportedly Shuck had some dime.

476
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Speaker 1: Yes, Chuck Go was showing off that arm and reportedly

477
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Speaker 1: looked good. But Rattler got most of the starting snaps.

478
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Speaker 1: And then just a little update on the Browns quarterback

479
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Speaker 1: thing that I mentioned yesterday. I saw on the Athletic

480
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Speaker 1: that for what it's worth, the rookies really didn't get

481
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Speaker 1: a lot of first team reps between Dylan Gabriel and

482
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Speaker 1: Schaudur Sanders. But for what it's where, Dylan Gabriel got

483
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Speaker 1: a handful in Chadur Sanders was fourth in line. Does

484
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Speaker 1: that mean anything to you, No, he didn't get in it.

485
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Speaker 3: It doesn't. If Joe Flacco is going to come in

486
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Speaker 3: there and be at camp, then it's like, okay, well,

487
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Speaker 3: let's have Joe make some throws. People get to good

488
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Speaker 3: evaluation on everybody, and we can deal with the rest

489
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Speaker 3: of this later.

490
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Speaker 1: Also, I would warn people drawing too much motives that

491
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Speaker 1: the media in most places, really every place. I don't

492
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Speaker 1: think there's anyone that's like, hey, come more than your mandate.

493
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Speaker 1: You know, then we have to allow you to. They're

494
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Speaker 1: only there once a week, and so they're practicing three

495
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Speaker 1: times a week, but the media only sees it once.

496
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: So Shitar could easily be repping higher in the order

497
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Speaker 1: on other days in the media just doesn't see it.

498
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Speaker 1: But kind of interesting, as was Joe Flacco's comments. I

499
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Speaker 1: thought where they asked him for the million of time,

500
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Speaker 1: whether he's going to be like a mentor to these guys.

501
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Speaker 2: Did you see that one?

502
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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco has been answering the mentor question now for

503
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Speaker 3: the better half of it.

504
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Speaker 1: And he's come up with finally the perfect answer, which

505
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Speaker 1: was there is no way practice yeah, which is there's

506
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Speaker 1: no way to answer that because if I say that

507
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Speaker 1: I'm going to mentor him, that I'm actually selling myself

508
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Speaker 1: short and I'm not really competing when they brought me

509
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Speaker 1: in here to compete and play like they want me

510
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Speaker 1: to play. And if I say, you know, I won't

511
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Speaker 1: mendor him that.

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Speaker 3: I'm just I mean, there is a way to answer it. Yeah,

513
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Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, I mean I want to play, but

514
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to be a bad teammate. Yeah, I'm

515
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 3: going to help people when they make a mistake. That's there.

516
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Speaker 3: But I'm not I'm not holding anybody's hand. Yeah, and

517
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Speaker 3: he didn't you gave him books before bed?

518
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Speaker 1: He basically did say that and said that the young

519
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Speaker 1: guys have asked him some question and that's been a

520
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Speaker 1: fun room. That shitters have them laughing a lot. That

521
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Speaker 1: they're all getting along in Cleveland. Let's take a quick

522
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Speaker 1: break and let's talk about some veterans that are under

523
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Speaker 1: a little bit of fire.

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Speaker 2: After that, back on NFL Daily. It's the time of

525
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Speaker 2: year where.

526
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Speaker 1: People don't read in too much to who's playing, language

527
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Speaker 1: spot or whatever.

528
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Speaker 2: I'll read into what I want to. I can suss

529
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Speaker 2: out what matters.

530
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Speaker 3: Context is important.

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Speaker 1: I'm not four percent more concerned that ball practices that

532
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Speaker 1: the Patriots media has watched Drake may struggle that it's

533
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Speaker 1: like a little concern four percent, four percent concerned. I

534
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Speaker 1: don't ninety six percent not concerned.

535
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Speaker 2: Yeah about it.

536
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Speaker 3: Just like a little bit.

537
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Speaker 1: So when the draft happens, we talk all about how

538
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Speaker 1: these new players are going to fit into their new spot,

539
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Speaker 1: and we don't really talk about the veterans who are affected.

540
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Speaker 1: So I just thought, kind of looking through the rosters, Patrick,

541
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Speaker 1: that we look at some guys that maybe suffered some

542
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Speaker 1: collateral damage in the draft, who are are facing a

543
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Speaker 1: little heat this summer. The competition starts a little bit

544
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Speaker 1: in OTA's certainly you get an idea of like how

545
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Speaker 1: the team is maybe going to work the snaps in

546
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Speaker 1: training camp. It really gets going in training camp. And

547
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Speaker 1: so we're going to talk just we'll throw back and

548
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Speaker 1: forth a handful of veterans that we think are interesting,

549
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Speaker 1: that are under some fire in terms of playing time

550
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Speaker 1: from rookies.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you get us going.

552
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll get started with a guy who's going to

553
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Speaker 3: be a free agent in twenty twenty six. And that's

554
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Speaker 3: a dafe O way. Oh finally was able to get

555
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Speaker 3: a whole lot of playing time last year, able to

556
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Speaker 3: get into fifteen games, It's got twenty twenty three career sacks,

557
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Speaker 3: got ten sacks last year. But Mike Green coming on

558
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Speaker 3: and the veterans in the way that this zach Orr

559
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 3: defense operates, I think there's going to be reduced snapcount

560
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Speaker 3: for him that may kind of hinder his ability to

561
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Speaker 3: get a long term contract.

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Speaker 1: Going that, it's an interesting call, and he's an interesting

563
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Speaker 1: player who whenever you bring number one trades guy traits

564
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: versus production. When Shamar Stewart, the pass rusher who was

565
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Speaker 1: taken by the Bengals got taken seventeenth overall, he had

566
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Speaker 1: a somewhat similar profile to Oway, where he just hadn't

567
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Speaker 1: produced much in college as a as a Ravens guy,

568
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Speaker 1: I'd be curious to wonder how like Ravens fans think

569
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Speaker 1: about oh wait, because to my eye, I was like

570
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Speaker 1: he was a guy that was supposed to take a

571
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Speaker 1: little bit to develop and that it seems like that's

572
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Speaker 1: what's happened, and he's turned into a solid player.

573
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: Solid but still to the point where they are taking

574
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 3: Mike Green right in these in these positions and the

575
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 3: skill set right, the explosion, like everything's there from Oway.

576
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Speaker 3: It's obvious when he's when he's got that opportunity, but

577
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: you would like him to be perhaps a more consistent producer,

578
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Speaker 3: and they're still they're still taking shots, uh to find

579
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Speaker 3: that guy. And I think not just from the pick,

580
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 3: but from the for his personal sake in terms of

581
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Speaker 3: getting on the field enough to make those splash plays

582
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Speaker 3: to get some money. I think that's and that's kind

583
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Speaker 3: of a common theme among a lot of the guys

584
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Speaker 3: that I picked, where you just want to have the

585
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Speaker 3: reps so you can try to get that check.

586
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they just don't have it, even if Oway played

587
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: better than anyone expects this year. They they need some

588
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: edge juice. So I think it made sense for them

589
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Speaker 1: to make that pick with Green. Kyle vanoy is their

590
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: best outside linebacker, but he's a more jack of all

591
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: trades type of guy.

592
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: Who who cleans up on those sects.

593
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Speaker 1: What a freaking career, I can I'm old enough to

594
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: remember when people called Kyle van Noya d half bust,

595
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: like Lions fans hated him back in the day and

596
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: us yeah, also like a truly awful Lions team. I'm

597
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Speaker 1: gonna go kveon Thibodeau in part because.

598
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: Look, we know he's gonna have less reps.

599
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Speaker 1: Uh with Carter there, it's the number three pick in

600
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Speaker 1: the draft, but three guys splitting up the edge reps

601
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: should be fine. And if Kavon Thibodeau talking about looking

602
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Speaker 1: for a guy who wants to earn money in the future,

603
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: and he does have his fifth year option and everything

604
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: coming up, maybe that big second contract isn't coming from

605
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Speaker 1: the Giants necessarily because they have so much invested at

606
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Speaker 1: the position. It's not too late for him to be

607
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: the guy I think we expected coming into that draft

608
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: where we were just talking about in the last show.

609
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: I think the consensus was he was a better player

610
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Speaker 1: than Trayvon Walker, who went one overall, and I talked

611
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: about it with John Shipley. Now I think you would

612
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: take take Walker over him. That Actually, Walker's been better

613
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: and Thibodeau's had moments, but you haven't seen the ascension.

614
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: If anything, he's flattened out and maybe looked better initially

615
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: when he wasn't playing quite as many steps.

616
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a lot of tape out at this point,

617
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: and you're wondering when that when that step comes, and

618
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 3: it's going to be tougher to demonstrate that step if

619
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Speaker 3: you're trying to display this this top five pick.

620
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: Right, So Abdull Carter was playing some off ball linebacker

621
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Speaker 1: at OTAs.

622
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Speaker 2: You don't like that now, I just they.

623
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Speaker 3: Didn't draft Abdul Carter to be an off ball like

624
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Speaker 3: it's I understand you want to get your best players

625
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: on the field, Well, then just have them both down there.

626
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: I just think playing guys out of the pass.

627
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Speaker 2: But then you have all three.

628
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Speaker 1: You have Abdull Carter, Brian Burns, and Kivon on the

629
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Speaker 1: field at the same time.

630
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Speaker 3: Make it work. Yeah, I mean there's been a clear

631
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: investment in all three of these players, so but maybe

632
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: controversial play all three.

633
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the comp is there to Michael Parsons, of course,

634
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: and I think the Cowboys ultimately wasted their time with

635
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: Parsons at off ball linebacker as a rookie that they've

636
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Speaker 1: shown with how they've used them since that they didn't

637
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: need to do that. Now if it's off ball linebacker

638
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: in a Zach Bond type of role, where at least

639
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: the way they use Carter, he's ultimately rushing the passer

640
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Speaker 1: almost all the time and he's just like a third edge.

641
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Speaker 2: That's cool.

642
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: What do you think about the fact that I snuck

643
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Speaker 1: in another ot and nugget here into this segment.

644
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Speaker 2: You see how I did that?

645
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I loved it. It's a master operating.

646
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Speaker 2: Because that was going to be in the first part.

647
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Speaker 1: But I was like, what if I combine my little

648
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: Abdul Carter off ball linebacker nugget which I thought was

649
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: interesting with the Thibodeau thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the listeners went out.

651
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Speaker 3: And so now right, people who got everything they wanted

652
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Speaker 3: in the first thing, yeah, also get this nugget here

653
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: in the second bit. And we're not influencing the length

654
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Speaker 3: of the first bit.

655
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Speaker 1: No, we're balancing it perfectly. Give me another guy, let's.

656
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Speaker 3: Go to one that feels obvious. But I think it's

657
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Speaker 3: It's worth noting that when Kevin Kelvin Banks was drafted,

658
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Speaker 3: the idea it's okay, Trevor Pinning's got to got to

659
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Speaker 3: move inside, or like, who cares about Trevor Penning. But

660
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Speaker 3: this is a former first round pick where you've already

661
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Speaker 3: tried two tackle positions. If things do not work out,

662
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Speaker 3: Who's who's trying to get Trevor Pinning at this point? Nobody?

663
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Speaker 3: And so like, this is this is almost due or

664
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Speaker 3: or career like for for Trevor Pinning at a position

665
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Speaker 3: where I don't know how many games Trevor Pinning has

666
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Speaker 3: started in the interior, probably none. It's a really tough

667
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: spot to try to go for. Potentially it's either going

668
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Speaker 3: to be a first or second year quarterback, presumably unless

669
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Speaker 3: that the Jams trade that would maticulate later on. Where

670
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Speaker 3: it's just it's a lot to ask for a guy

671
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Speaker 3: who hasn't really been able to accomplish much when he

672
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Speaker 3: was given the opportunity.

673
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Speaker 1: So now what Saints fans are funny. They've convinced themselves

674
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Speaker 1: that there is a path here with these two highly

675
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: drafted tackles over the last two years, not Penning, I'm

676
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: talking about and Banks and then Penning moving inside, and

677
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: you still McCoy and Ruiz is a fort like that.

678
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: They actually have the ceiling of a great offensive line

679
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: and if you squint hard and they had the right coaching,

680
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: it actually could work out quite well. It could also

681
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: be terrible. There's everything is a is a maybe. We

682
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: don't know if Kelvin Bank's gotta be good. McCoy's never healthy.

683
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: You guys have hated Caesar Ruiz half the time. And yeah,

684
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: Penning six to seven. He is like a maller and

685
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: gets into a lot of fights. That yeah, that's the guard.

686
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Speaker 3: The most notable thing he's done is get into fights

687
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: and people were like, yeah, that means he's trying hard. No,

688
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: he's fighting people, he's fighting his teammates, and he hasn't

689
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: been successful, So like, maybe we should that mean streak

690
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: thing is a little overrated.

691
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Speaker 1: So it is a trend that the Eagles and the

692
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: Ravens helped to start last year. People are now trying

693
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: out these monsters at guard throughout the league. And you know,

694
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: Penning six seven, three twenty five used to never see

695
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: guards like that, but you know they did it with Becton.

696
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: The Eagles have always had pretty big guards, but this

697
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: is this is next level, and then the Ravens took

698
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Speaker 1: it to a whole other level with But like, there's

699
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Speaker 1: a handful of these guys I'm blanking, but there's a

700
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: few other ones around in the league that are like this.

701
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Speaker 1: So just an interesting little trend. I'll go while we're

702
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Speaker 1: talking Eagles, let's go to Nacobe Dean. You know it's

703
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Speaker 1: going to take a minute for both Nikoby Dean and

704
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Speaker 1: Johad Campbell to get fully healthy, it might be a

705
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: little bit of a race to the field. Nakobe Dean

706
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: is not on the field as Otia's start, so it's

707
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Speaker 1: actually Jeremiah Trotter Junior who's lining up as a as

708
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Speaker 1: a starter, But eventually it's probably going to be Nakobe

709
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: Dean if he can get back on the field. But

710
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Speaker 1: Jahad Campbell, to me, was was a direct threat to

711
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Speaker 1: Nikoby Dean, who was playing the best ball of his

712
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: career before that. He had that injury last year, which

713
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: is really disappointing for such an intriguing guy. And so

714
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: this is a big year in terms of the rest

715
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Speaker 1: of his NFL career because it might not be with

716
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Speaker 1: the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, most of his career thus far has been dealing

718
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: with injury, not just this one, but the one that

719
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 3: he had early on coming in that he had to

720
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 3: get over to finally get that time on the field.

721
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Speaker 3: And maybe it makes it a little bit easier that

722
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: John Campbell's going to be coming back from something. But

723
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: like if Campbell's successful, like how much is Dean getting

724
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 3: on the field at that point? I know they like

725
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: to rotate and a lot of guys play in Vic's scheme,

726
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: but it's.

727
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Speaker 1: Just, yeah, you wonder, he just got to beat him there.

728
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Speaker 1: He's got to get there first and play well. Potentially,

729
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: he's coming off a knee injury that he was a

730
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Speaker 1: surprise participant, like he had his helmet on. He's not

731
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: doing everything, but he's maybe a little ahead of where

732
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Speaker 1: you would have thought, and definitely ahead of where Campbell

733
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Speaker 1: is coming off of a shoulder injury.

734
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I thought he was playing really well.

735
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Speaker 1: So I actually think this is a rare a case

736
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Speaker 1: where they would lean toward Dean if he's playing well

737
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: and really try to develop Campbell slowly at a position

738
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Speaker 1: that's difficult for rookies.

739
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Speaker 3: All Right, you go, I'm gonna do a double dipper

740
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 3: for a couple of veterans, one who is loved by

741
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 3: his head coach. That's Khalif Raymond and Tim Patrick because

742
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 3: when I think about both, we are second time referencing

743
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Speaker 3: our GM rankings. Brad Holmes and the Detroit Lions. They

744
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 3: make moves, people question him. It turns out Jamier Gibbs

745
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: as good. People have questioned the price for Isaac Taslaw.

746
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a Teslaw believer at this Wow, Brad Holmes

747
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: is in that. I'm in on Isaac Tueslaw, and I

748
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 3: think that that kind of decreases the opportunities for Leif

749
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: and for Tim Patrick. And he's gonna get on the

750
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Speaker 3: field and make some plays, and there's gonna be some

751
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: lines receivers because they there's a lot there's a lot

752
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: of talent to spread the ball around to, and somebody's

753
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: going to be somebody's gonna be short on a team

754
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 3: that I think is still going to be good without Ben.

755
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Speaker 1: Johnson, no question. I think they're going to be great.

756
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: You know who else was a big Tuslaw fan. I'm

757
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: ranked very high in his Who's that Top one fifty

758
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: which came out right before the draft Daniel Jeremiah.

759
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: People were like, what who is this that you have?

760
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 2: Franked Tie?

761
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: And then he gets he gets taken just about that

762
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 1: high in the draft. Jeremiah, though not was not a fan.

763
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Speaker 1: Speaking of the GM rankings of your Fontino pick at

764
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Speaker 1: number nine, he called me. I was eating breakfast. It

765
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Speaker 1: was seven point thirty. I was midway through my first

766
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Speaker 1: cup of coffee, and he called me on the phone

767
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Speaker 1: to voice his complaints of your of the Terry Fontina

768
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Speaker 1: at nine.

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Speaker 3: Pick's and that's understandable. I'm not in this to better

770
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: my relationships with folks. Love me ja, but it was

771
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: that was what the numbers sped out, okay, and I'm

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Speaker 3: standing by it.

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Speaker 1: How about Tyrone Tracy with the giants I've seen in fantasy,

774
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: Scatabo I think is going ahead of him. You guys

775
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: are crazy. Tyrone Tracy put up a like eleven hundred

776
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: twelve hundred yards. I like Scataboo, Skataboo, not Scatibo.

777
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: I liked him.

778
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: I I there were some talk that he wasn't necessarily

779
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: beloved around his teammates and at Arizona State kind of

780
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: a meet so that's a little bit of a concern.

781
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: But I love this tape.

782
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: I thought he went too late in the draft, and

783
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: yet I would give the the fate. I would rather

784
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: draft Tyrone Tracy if I was in fantasy, even at

785
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: equal price, because he's shown he could do it. But

786
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: he's definitely under threat. He needs to ward off this challenge.

787
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: I think he can, yeah, for fantasy purposes.

788
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Speaker 3: I don't know how many pieces of the twenty twenty

789
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: five New York Science that I'm interested in period like

790
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 3: this is we're talking RB.

791
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Speaker 1: You know this is on day all matter though, you

792
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: know you got to rank them. Yeah, you do have

793
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: to rank what are I will check what they're ranked.

794
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Speaker 3: There are some backups that I will probably take before dang,

795
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: before the giants started, just because you want pieces of

796
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: certain offenses, like you want our guys that are that

797
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 3: we think highly of. Points of points are good, like

798
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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors. You certainly would watch. Of course there's a giant.

800
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Speaker 3: There's a giant that's the giant.

801
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: In like really deep leagues, I would take like you know,

802
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: THEO Johnson maybe kind of like THEO Johnson.

803
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 2: All right, give me another.

804
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Speaker 3: Okay, let's go down to the Kansas City Chiefs. Juwan

805
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: Taylor has seen Josh Simmons be drafted, really the biggest

806
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: draft investment that they've made at the position in sometime.

807
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: A very talented tackle. And Jowan Taylor. Actually when I

808
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: initially put this, he was up higher on my list

809
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: of guys in danger based on vibes. Continuing from twenty

810
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: twenty three, where he led the league in holding as

811
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: well as false start penalties, he was thirteenth in false

812
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 3: start penalties last year, Jowan Taylor was actually pretty good

813
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: for the team that went back to the Super Bowl.

814
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: That's been kind of like bargain shopping at tackle during

815
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: the Patrick Mahomes era for some reason, frustratingly so. But

816
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Speaker 3: I think that Josh Simmons creates a situation where Juwan

817
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: Taylor will be elsewhere eventually.

818
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: Great call. Gives me a chance to throw in another

819
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Speaker 1: OT nugget. Andy Reid said that Josh Simmons was further

820
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: along than they expected and might even be on the

821
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Speaker 1: field doing teamwork before the end of mini camp season,

822
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: which is definitely ahead of where he would have expected,

823
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: which makes the team sound very optimistic that he'll be

824
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: out there when training camp starts, which was no guarantee,

825
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: and we'll see recoveries aren't always linear. But he's coming

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Speaker 1: off of Potel attend and just as a reminder, a

827
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Speaker 1: lot of people thought he was a top ten type

828
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: of talent ends up going thirty two. They also signed

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Speaker 1: Jalen Moore to a two year, fifteen million dollars contract

830
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: you know, per year, and I think you nailed it here.

831
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Speaker 1: Taylor is their second highest paid player in terms of

832
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: cap number this year. Yeah, danger zone, and they can

833
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: like they can cut him and save twenty mon million

834
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Speaker 1: dollars next year, twenty five something.

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Speaker 2: Crazy.

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Speaker 1: He's not that good. He's not even I don't even

837
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Speaker 1: know if he's good. He's solid, he's okay.

838
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they went to the Super Bowls and

839
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Speaker 3: they won another one. Well that's Andy. Reid also said

840
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Speaker 3: that Daseia Poteco looks tremendous by the way.

841
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: I like that.

842
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: I like that we're throwing in nugs. I gotta throw

843
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Speaker 1: in Remandre he was, he was kind of good. Who

844
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Speaker 1: had me thinking about this segment. Certainly, Trevion Henderson is

845
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Speaker 1: a guy new coaching staff, high pick. They're going to

846
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: want to use him. I think they're going to want

847
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: to use the running back in the passing game a lot.

848
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Speaker 1: Josh mcdanels has done that in the past, has been

849
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Speaker 1: great at it. You know who's also great in the

850
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 1: passing games? That Fromandre freaking Stevenson that he's outstanding. He's

851
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: a complete back. I didn't hate that contract when they

852
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: gave it to him. He didn't have his best year

853
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 1: last year. Certainly running backs, he has been a little

854
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: bit in the Josh Jacobs mold of he's either incredible

855
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: or a little disappointing, which you don't love out of

856
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: your running back. You would like a little more consistency

857
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: out of a guy that's making that much money, and

858
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs has been that.

859
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: Guy too, at least until lately. He's stacked a few

860
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Speaker 2: good years to get but.

861
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: If nothing else, this would be the year where he's

862
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: back to being outstanding. But Trevion's coming for his neck.

863
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: How how would you feel about an exchange? Because I

864
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: do know that the last time Ben Johnson and DeAndre

865
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: Swift were together, he wound up no longer being on

866
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions, Remandre to the Bears in exchange for

867
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Speaker 3: something that makes you happy.

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Speaker 1: I really like Marmandre, but I would think it'd be

869
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: something interesting to get back if to make it worth it.

870
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Speaker 2: Who would that even be?

871
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Speaker 1: Because like cole Comet, I have co Comett written on

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Speaker 1: this list, so he might as well just yeah, let's

873
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: go to co combine it. Cole Comette's kind of overrated.

874
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: I think, wow a little bit.

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00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean if they loved him that much, then

876
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 3: the pick would have been different. At ten.

877
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: Good player, seems like a great team guy, consistent. I

878
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: feel like he's in the middle of a lot of mistakes,

879
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: a lot of mental mistakes that people put on the

880
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and stuff. But I feel like he hasn't been

881
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: a consistent player for them, So yeah, give me a Remandre.

882
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: We get Cole Comet in as like a second tight

883
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: end with Sir Henry.

884
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: Straight up Cole come Ote for Remandre.

885
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 2: Yes, it's fine.

886
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: It feels like you guys are taking an.

887
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 2: L we're taking an out. Yeah, I have a positional value.

888
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: I don't know.

889
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: No, I actually am not being truthful. I would not

890
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: be happy with that. It seems like good value. But

891
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: I just like Romandre, so I hope he holds him off.

892
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: But they have Antonio Gibson. Rimandre is still a little

893
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: banged up, not practicing fully, but Trevion Henderson is out there.

894
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 3: I will go down to Dallas where Trayvon Diggs has

895
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: time left on his deal, but they took Chavon Ravel

896
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: and he's still making his way back. I know he's

897
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: had some time since that knee injury. But there could

898
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: be a scenario where the Cowboys get out of that

899
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: deal now that that is something that they have not

900
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 3: done in the past. But Trayvon dis could be facing

901
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: a threat from Shavon Revelle.

902
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 1: Well, what about a little Trayvon Diggs Jalen Ramsey trade

903
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: one for one? Could you trade Treyon Diggs with his

904
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: injury right now?

905
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 3: I don't think now, because he wouldn't be able to

906
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 3: pass the physical at this moment.

907
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: Would they ever do a Deron Bland Jalen Ramsey trade now,

908
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 2: I'm just like thinking out loud, No, it doesn't to me.

909
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense to trade Deron Bland even though

910
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: he's coming up for a new contract.

911
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Treyvon Diggs is a guy. I don't know what

912
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: his future is going to be. It's just so murky

913
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 1: with the help, but with such a fantastic player that

914
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: it seems people are kind of writing his epitaph with

915
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and in general a little too quickly. Let's see,

916
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: he's a young guy. I'll wrap up. Let's throw out

917
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: with just one more. Romeo Dobbs leads the twenty twenty

918
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: two wide receiver draft class and touchdowns. Touchdowns aren't everything,

919
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: but he's in a tough spot. It's hard to see

920
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: him getting a great long term deal. But man receivers

921
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: don't get the free agency much and so it's a

922
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: big year for him to try to fend off all

923
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: that competition from Matthew Golden, from Savion Williams, from his

924
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: teammates that were already there, have another solid season and

925
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: go get paid.

926
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Speaker 3: But I think as the route runner, he's the premier

927
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 3: choice of that group. Like it's it feels like the

928
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: player that deals with the Golden problem the most would

929
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,959
Speaker 3: be But would be Wicks.

930
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: Yes, and maybe Jaden Reid if Jaden Reid wanted to

931
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: be like a true number one, which apparently he did he.

932
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Speaker 3: Did, Yeah, I would like you know, everybody, you are

933
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: a true number one. Patrick.

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Speaker 1: I think that's where we're gonna wrap it up there.

935
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Speaker 1: I've enjoyed the hell out of this week. We're back

936
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Speaker 1: into this our news mode. We got claybaughn in in

937
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 1: the NFL Network polo.

938
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 3: It's an easy outfit. You just throw on the polo.

939
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: You can wear short.

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00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: I've got a little new like button down here. We

941
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Speaker 1: will be back on Monday. It's not going to be

942
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Speaker 1: overnight Monday. We want to catch up on any of

943
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: the news that's happened over the weekend, so we're going

944
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Speaker 1: to be taping early Monday morning with Nick Schuk I

945
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: am looking forward to that one. We'll get some more

946
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: rankings next week. Big wide receiver one huge coming up

947
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: look when John new Smith is potentially going back to

948
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Speaker 1: Arthur Smith again.

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Speaker 2: Football's back.